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[00:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Limits of physics - 06Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:49:11] <exec> 08└─A lot of Big Data is limited by fundamental limits of physics. It is only possible to move around so much data, over so much distance, in such a time frame. For example, no matter how much memory you have, you're limited by the bandwidth between the memory and the processor (how much data can be mov...
[00:50:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:immensely old zircon - 06Life On Earth May Have Begun 300m Years Earlier Than Previously Thought - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:23] <exec> 08└─I think that zircons are pretty resistant to remelts. Not that they couldn't if they went into a subduction zone, but then it's hardly the same stone afterwards. OTOH, I believe that zircons are generally dated by the rocks that they are embedded within, so if you want to argue that the stone is old...
[00:50:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:It ran its course - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:50:54] <exec> 08└─For example, Yuji Hyakutake was a complete amateur who discovered 2 comets because he was really interested in searching for them.
[00:51:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:I wonder what they will replace it with? - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:51:10] <exec> 08└─Ice Road Truckers.
[00:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Watching it from a window - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:51:35] <exec> 08└─It is not the same thing to watch someone else do things than doing it yourself. Mythbusters was there so you will not experiment yourself. Of course, there was little (if any) science behind their experiments. Science doesn't involve explosions. This mythbusters tv show was meant to keep people fro...
[00:52:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sad Puppies - 06STEM Hiring, Now With Science - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:52:52] <exec> 08└─More Sad Puppies! Incompetent, misogynistic, and sad, puppies. Place is going to the dogs.
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[01:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Big nasty insect ! - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:05] <exec> 08└─Kill it before it stings you or the kids!
[01:49:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:3, Insightful) 02So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:06] <exec> 08└─so-called unmanned aerial vehicles
[01:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK 420 [2525] (Score:1) 02Sure why not. - 06Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, I work with data on this scale and we use Cassandra for the database with Spark. Started with Hadoop then moved to Spark. Used Hive then Shark for SQL back to Cassandra. Used Oozie for scheduling, but ripped that out and went custom. Can Spark process 100 Terabytes of data? Sure, why not? The t...
[01:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02A sense of scale - 06Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - 1045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:49:28] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that! Times sure have changed. About 20 years ago, I worked at a Major Retirement Fund company on a data warehouse application that was fed from all of their mutual fund databases and it contained a whopping 150 GB of data. It ran on a Teradata system which, IIRC, had 100 processors and a...
[01:50:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unsurprising - 06Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:50:28] <exec> 08└─> Gmails spam filters are almost perfect. I thought so too, for a few years. Then Gmail started putting email from a customer in the spam folder...and he is from a Fortune top 50 company (with corporate email). Now I check the spam folder quickly a few times a day, just in case.
[01:51:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It ran its course - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 1354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:13] <exec> 08└─The movie stunt ones were the best, IMO. It's not just because there actually *ARE* people out there who believe things like a person hit by a bullet gets thrown backwards from the impact. More interesting to me was when they would use their special effects backgrounds to show you how the movie stun...
[01:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Watching it from a window - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:51:53] <exec> 08└─Science doesn't involve explosions https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Yep no science there. Move along, move along
[01:52:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:getting back on topic - 06STEM Hiring, Now With Science - 1387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:52:58] <exec> 08└─(Posted the OP before I had coffee, apologies.) Trump/Bernie would be one helluva ticket. I'm reminded of blue/red and white/black decks I used to build when I was in to Magic: The Gathering. I don't support Trump, but I will say this: like Sanders, he seems to be a man of conviction, something sore...
[01:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm tempted but ... - 06YouTube Offers Premium Paid Subscription "YouTube Red" - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:54:04] <exec> 08└─Mountain out of a molehill? What's your definition of "Pilot Program"? Everything starts somewhere, and the initial library participating didn't exactly originate the idea... Library Freedom Project [libraryfreedomproject.org] "You can even see the implied phases in the link URL"
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[02:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:22] <exec> 08└─Most are manned remotely. And oddly enough, every drone pilot I've ever seen has been a man. Manned: adjective 1. carrying or operated by one or more persons:
[02:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:23] <exec> 08└─Most are manned remotely.
[02:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:24] <exec> 08└─They used the so-called prefix to not offend the UAV. Otherwise the UAV might get angry, strap explosives to itself and commit a terrorist attack. Basically the same reason BBC refers to islamic state as so-called.
[02:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 1094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:49:26] <exec> 08└─Flying things tend to behave in a few different ways. Flying things which are frequently preyed upon, tend to stay near cover. Juicy looking creatures tend to stay in or under the undergrowth, near trees, or generally close to something that they can quickly put between themselves and predators. The...
[02:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02some of it is idiots - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 1283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:49:28] <exec> 08└─I looked at all the non-bird ones. The cheetah one is the equivalent of a flying cat toy. The kangaroo one has a drone buzzing right next to a doe and joey. Like all animals that raise their young, the doe acts defensively to protect the joey from the weird flying thing. The chimpanzees are getting...
[02:49:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Volkswagen's scandal? - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:49:35] <exec> 08└─"It looks like the Diesel scandal is shaping up to have similarly wide-ranging repercussions for the car industry in Europe." I know that in previous discussions, we've already established that this scandal involves far more than just Volkswagen. At least that last sentence of TFS indicates that the...
[02:49:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Volkswagen's scandal? - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:37] <exec> 08└─It appears to be related to where they bought their software more than the brand name on the fender. But most of it stems from the EU's joint decision to hitch their wagon to Diesel, which everybody knew had a much harder time meeting pollution restrictions. In North America the push seems to have b...
[02:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Limits of physics - 06Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:48] <exec> 08└─The idea is to shard the data onto thousands of rack-mounted servers (x86_64 running Linux, for now). Maybe more than 10,000 servers, in the case of Google or FB. As far as the JVM penalty which an AC mentioned, it doesn't matter so much when the bottlenecks are disk I/O and network bandwidth. But i...
[02:49:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Re:Sure why not. - 06Can Apache Spark Process 100 Terabytes of Data in Interactive Mode? - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:49:51] <exec> 08└─Exactly... The headline reads like GPU benchmarking, data warehouse loads (MS used to claim that SSIS could like a huge amount of data but their tests involved a pre-processed binary file, no transformations, and a direct output...) and other cases where things can work that way. But with your data,...
[02:51:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Life never "began" - 06Life On Earth May Have Begun 300m Years Earlier Than Previously Thought - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:51:19] <exec> 08└─Interesting post, but I have to point out that the holocaust is not a myth. Saying this makes you look foolish. It may be better described by the word genocide but the fact is that millions of people (not only Jews) died, either directly or indirectly (due to illness or starvation etc), because of N...
[02:52:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:For Science! - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:52:13] <exec> 08└─On Slashdot it's cool to hate MythBusters. Concidentally that started on the same day that casual viewers expressed affection for it.
[02:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Huge Mistake - 06STEM Hiring, Now With Science - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:53:39] <exec> 08└─The current male dominated academic system has been driven to shambles over the last 60 years or so. Build a competitor, do not jump onto a sinking ship. Women just need to get enough funding together to start trying to replicate the establishment results and reveal the truth. Humanity needs somethi...
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[03:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Funny) 02Payback is such a bitch... - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:38] <exec> 08└─Wiki doesn't always leak the most damaging things first. Might want to stay tuned.
[03:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Oblig - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:39] <exec> 08└─But if you haven't been doing anything wrong Mr. CIA Director, there's surely nothing you need to hide...
[03:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oblig - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:40] <exec> 08└─In before special pleading.
[03:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:53] <exec> 08└─Apparently you disagree with the dictionary. http://www.thefreedictionary.com [thefreedictionary.com] http://dictionary.reference.com [reference.com] and several others...
[03:49:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 1094 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:55] <exec> 08└─Flying things tend to behave in a few different ways. Flying things which are frequently preyed upon, tend to stay near cover. Juicy looking creatures tend to stay in or under the undergrowth, near trees, or generally close to something that they can quickly put between themselves and predators. The...
[03:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:49:56] <exec> 08└─Even predatory birds act weird near other flying things. My flight instructor in Alaska insisted that I avoid flying under bald eagles when climbing out after take off, because egals would often fold their wings and dive on (or past) big things coming up on them. He had more than on come through his...
[03:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Volkswagen's scandal? - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:07] <exec> 08└─I remember another article which stated that all of the diesel auto manufacturers were involved in tricking the system.
[03:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Volkswagen's scandal? - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:50:08] <exec> 08└─Ugh. *avoid getting caught Yeah that's right I click "Submit" without bothering to Preview. Like a boss.
[03:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02oh god not another -gate - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:50:10] <exec> 08└─Who the fuck came up with this -gate bullshit? I want to stab them in the face. We don't need -gate to tell us it's a scandal. We're not children.
[03:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Unsurprising - 06Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:29] <exec> 08└─And if you just mark it NOT SPAM, it will never happen again. But yeah, occasionally corporate email looks soooooooo spamy that you have to put put the sender in your contacts to prevent it going to spam.
[03:51:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unsurprising - 06Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:30] <exec> 08└─> And if you just mark it NOT SPAM, it will never happen again. I did that, a couple of years back, and things were ok for awhile. Just recently this came up in a yellow box, "Gmail couldn't verify that this message was sent by [x].com" ...for email from the same person. Has happened several times n...
[03:51:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Life never "began" - 06Life On Earth May Have Begun 300m Years Earlier Than Previously Thought - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:51:58] <exec> 08└─This is almost exactly what I came up with over the years. It is the most elegant and logical answer to the question what (and also why) is life. I couldn't word it so nicely as you do so thank you for that.
[03:52:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:I wonder what they will replace it with? - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:40] <exec> 08└─Hunting Nessie - Reality show where they track and hunt Nessie using paranormal trackers, and other sophisticated gadgets.
[03:52:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let's pick this apart, shall we? - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:52:51] <exec> 08└─and then they added the other 2
[03:54:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:getting back on topic - 06STEM Hiring, Now With Science - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:54:11] <exec> 08└─Well, backing some of these persecutions of Clinton would help such as classified information on her private email server
[03:55:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Balderdash [693] (Score:2) 02Re:scary and "duh" at the same time - 06What Do We Really Know About Osama Bin Laden’s Death? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:56:00] <exec> 08└─Bin Laden died in the winter of 2001 due to complications related to renal failure.
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[04:49:35] <exec> 08└─But if you haven't been doing anything wrong Mr. CIA Director, there's surely nothing you need to hide...
[04:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03goody [2135] (Score:2) 02Commentary - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:37] <exec> 08└─In other words, he is now experiencing up close and personal what the rest of the US's (and the world's) citizens have been experiencing first hand.
[04:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Commentary - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:39] <exec> 08└─How the hell is that cynical? It's just a fact.
[04:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Commentary - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:41] <exec> 08└─Necessary? I suppose not. But in this case, it seems fitting.
[04:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:43] <exec> 08└─Ballsy... stupid, but ballsy. I find this really cool and amazing but, talk about making enemies.
[04:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:44] <exec> 08└─Well, Julian Assange has been stuck in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for nigh on three years, with the cops right outside waiting for him to make even one small mistake. I don't see how adding one more name to his list of enemies could make things any worse.
[04:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:49:46] <exec> 08└─more ballsy than the CIA trying to get their spokesman jailed for "rape".
[04:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Online security was a solved problem in 1989 - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:48] <exec> 08└─well before that I expect but in 1989 I enrolled in a UNIX and Network Security Tutorial at the Interop Conference. For example, you run your ethernet through pressurized conduit. For a spy to tap into the cable they have to drill into the conduit, a sensor detects the drop in pressure leading some...
[04:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:50:01] <exec> 08└─The guy who made the Osprey video is a total asshole, harassing them by hovering around their nest and adding the gopro logo to the front and back of the video. It's a real shame his drone didn't get fried.
[04:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:50:02] <exec> 08└─My missive to GoPro tech support about the osprey video: http://gopro.com [gopro.com] I've watched hours of GoPro videos and I'm sure you would not approve of a guy harassing nesting Ospreys and pretending that it's an official GoPro video -- that can only be harmful to your reput...
[04:50:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Great for Friday - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:04] <exec> 08└─This random video was in the queue after one of the hawk videos: squirrel steals airplane: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[04:51:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Unsurprising - 06Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:51:39] <exec> 08└─Maybe you've been phished? If google gives that warning, it usually has some reason for doing so.
[04:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:There's no HIPPA privacy for the FDA anyways - 0623andMe Genetic Test Relaunches, but Transparency Report Reveals Law Enforcement Data Requests - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:53:40] <exec> 08└─These days, people's entire genome is not known, even when they take a DNA sample. But, as you suggest that will not last forever. Whereas it took 13 years and cost US$3 billion to sequence a human genome for the first time, now even the smallest research groups can complete genomic sequencing in a...
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[05:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:49:29] <exec> 08└─We've been using the M16 or a derivative since Vietnam. Every competition to find a replacement has been canceled or resulted in "no significant improvements found" (which is a load of crap, because almost anything would be a measurable improvement over the M4A1). The ACR was deemed a dead end, and...
[05:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02A fool's errand - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:49:30] <exec> 08└─Nobody is ever going to improve on the M1911A1 45 caliber, or a slight modification of it such as those that use 2-row mags. Just manufacture a new run. The Beretta was a poor second from the beginning, despite the design having over 60 years over the 1911. It's the same thing as the M2 50 caliber m...
[05:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:48] <exec> 08└─No he means the AOL hack. Publishing leaked info is not a crime.
[05:49:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Online security was a solved problem in 1989 - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:51] <exec> 08└─Pressurized conduit is easily defeated, it's just not quick or cheap.
[05:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Online security was a solved problem in 1989 - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 3913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:49:52] <exec> 08└─You're implying this piddling social engineering of unused AOL email, and release of (likely already) public info isn't just a PSYOP. It's like you don't even consider Snowden worked for the CIA before the "NSA Leaks" which are likely Panopticon-like acclimation via a limited hangout operation. Most...
[05:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Volkswagen's scandal? - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:50:25] <exec> 08└─... we've already established that this scandal involves far more than just Volkswagen.
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[07:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02coming soon to a pet shop near you... - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:47] <exec> 08└─http://microsites.ign.com/residentevil/timeline/content/re1/images/the_walking_dead.jpg [ign.com]
[07:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Wow - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:48] <exec> 08└─Good thing its behind a paywall or people would find out the list of authors is as long as the paper. WTF is this? They detected 1 and 8 base pair deletions (mutations) respectively in 2/27 puppies with no control group. They didn't measure muscle mass or strength, just show a few pictures that mean...
[07:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:A fool's errand - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 1062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:59] <exec> 08└─The 45 with a staggered or two row mag becomes too big to handle for smaller soldiers or women. Other than that the 45 had a hopelessly inaccurate barrel+slide interface, which is the first thing any any gun smith has to re-do when trying to wring some accuracy out of the M1911. Realistically all it...
[07:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score:3, Informative) 02tech frontrunner isnt a big name: STI-Detonics STX - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 1842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:00] <exec> 08└─Here are the requirements -- note the first few are all about accuracy in combat, and the latter ones are about flexibility in function. Whats surprising is that last item, they arent specifying a caliber. modular grips that accepts a wide-range of hand-sizes (5th to 95th percentile)low felt recoil...
[07:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Oblig - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 1300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:12] <exec> 08└─This comment deserves a +10. +5 Funny, and +5 Insightful at the same time. I have to disagree with another poster about the cynicism in the submitter's comment. There is no cynicism in the statement he is experiencing what it is like to be one of the common folk. I'm truly laughing my ass off, but t...
[07:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:36] <exec> 08└─So you can do a manned space flight by sending a remote-controlled robot to space? Actually satellites are human-controlled, too (sure, they do some things automatically, but so does the typical quadcopter; most people would not be able to fly a truly manually controlled quadcopter), So I get satell...
[07:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:37] <exec> 08└─Awwwwwwwwwww..... you beat me to it :)
[07:43:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02some of it is idiots - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 1283 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:44] <exec> 08└─I looked at all the non-bird ones. The cheetah one is the equivalent of a flying cat toy. The kangaroo one has a drone buzzing right next to a doe and joey. Like all animals that raise their young, the doe acts defensively to protect the joey from the weird flying thing. The chimpanzees are getting...
[07:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03hankwang [100] (Score:2) 02Re:some of it is idiots - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:46] <exec> 08└─"And the ram is the most idiotic of all." From his youtube clips and facebook page, it looks like the ram is actually the drone operator's pet and that they have a good time together. https://m.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[07:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02a hawk? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:48] <exec> 08└─I told you they'd be hawking drones
[07:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reality check - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─the vehicles actually work, the fuel is widely available and they can compete on price
[07:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sad Puppies - 06STEM Hiring, Now With Science - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:48:11] <exec> 08└─"Who let the dogs out? Hou, hou, hou! Who let the dogs out? Men are pigs, and Ethanol_fueled is a man-pig, or as they say in Fiji, Long Pig, or, "the other white meat".
[07:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03CaTfiSh [5221] (Score:1) 02Re:Account required? - 06YouTube Offers Premium Paid Subscription "YouTube Red" - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:49:21] <exec> 08└─That's not accurate. It was deleted by YT after repeated warnings they were going to do so if I didn't associate it with an account. I never clicked anything, it just wasn't there one day. You can argue that my unwillingness to attach an account was my consent to them deleting it, but the fact remai...
[07:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 06What Do We Really Know About Osama Bin Laden’s Death? - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:09] <exec> 08└─Your problem with the theory that it wasn't Bin Laden is: Why hasn't Bin Laden popped up somewhere else Maybe he found another job. I mean he spent the best part of a decade playing Doctor Evil so that Tony Blair could pretend to be Austin Powers and GWB could be his comedy sidekick. (Probably not h...
[07:50:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickFortune [3267] (Score:2) 02Re:Bullshit - 06What Do We Really Know About Osama Bin Laden’s Death? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:10] <exec> 08└─Meh. Hit "post" instead of "preview". Oh well, you get the idea.
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[09:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Insightful) 02So he's like any other politician - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:31:56] <exec> 08└─So he's like any other politician: He drops his promises for political advantage.
[09:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:So he's like any other politician - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:31:58] <exec> 08└─Hey, at least he dumped it BEFORE being elected.
[09:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:31:59] <exec> 08└─October 23 http://thinkprogress.org [soylentnews.org] Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee announced on Friday that he is dropping out of the 2016 race for the presidency, saying he will continue to fight for a Democra...
[09:32:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:01] <exec> 08└─If the trajectory doesn't change, Hillary is going to win the nomination. Her poll #s went up after the debate.
[09:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's not what happened. - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:03] <exec> 08└─The Lamestream Media outlets^W^W^W Establishment whores said that Hillary creamed Bernie. The online polls and focus groups said the opposite. [alternet.org] -- gewg_
[09:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, heaven forbid we get a moderate Democrat nominated, rather than an another wacko cryptoneocon authoritarian dingbat. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is the decider for the Democratic party, and she's gonna decide either Hillary or Bernie. [theintercept.com]
[09:32:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meta: Rehash's dialog boxes - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:32:06] <exec> 08└─The title, as submitted, had a spelling error. The submission was accepted into the on-deck part of the queue as-is. An editor later noticed my bonehead and swapped in a t for the c. I believe that, if the dialog boxes on the submission page [soylentnews.org] were just a few pixels taller, the under...
[09:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: Rehash's dialog boxes - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:08] <exec> 08└─I'll add this to my extension. If you don't want to wait or use it, you can add this to a custom stylesheet: #storyTitle {padding: 4px !important;}
[09:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02When you fight corruption - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:32:10] <exec> 08└─Corruption will fight you back.
[09:32:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02what could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:32:17] <exec> 08└─they should really consider what happens after the altered dogs breed with unaltered dogs. it seems like a better idea to work on fixing the genetic illnesses that various dog breeds suffer from and see if we can help people in the same way.
[09:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:18] <exec> 08└─Somehow I get the feeling this isn't meant to help people...
[09:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:32:20] <exec> 08└─And how long after they have managed to reliably create dogs to order will the technology be used on humans - all in the interests of science, of course? Might not China, or any other state for that matter, want an army of super-fit soldiers, all bred to bigger and stronger than a potential enemy? T...
[09:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:32:22] <exec> 08└─Water parks have slippery slopes. Enjoy the ride. You will get wet.
[09:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Killing tools - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 3209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:32:32] <exec> 08└─We want our killing tools to be totally lethal to our enemies, but not so much to our "boys" (some of whom are women). This is inherently unfair. Do you not remember, when the challenge of honor was given, the party put upon was given the choice of weapons? Ah, for the age of chivalry, when warrior...
[09:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02But they aren't a recognised state - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:33:09] <exec> 08└─Although in this case it is rather because 'Islamic State' isn't a recognised state. It is nothing more than a large group of extremist who currently control a certain area. So the BBC uses, quite correctly in my view, the phrase 'so called'.
[09:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:oh god not another -gate - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:33:32] <exec> 08└─Well, thanks to Assange, we now at least have two common suffixes for scandals: Besides -gate, there's now also -leaks.
[09:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality check - 06VW's 'Dieselgate' Puts Spotlight On Electric Cars in Germany - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:33:35] <exec> 08└─Diesel is a much easier sell,
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[10:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''get a moderate Democrat nominated'' - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:32:17] <exec> 08└─No one among the current crop of whackos can buy enough weapons or station enough troops on the other side of the globe "for defense". Ike was to the Left of everybody who has been in this race (except Jill Stein)--but Ike is dead. What "Moderate" did you have in mind? -- gewg_
[10:32:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:32:35] <exec> 08└─the source (The Daily Mail) isn't famed for having the highest journalistic integrity
[10:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Many good comments start at Zero - 06Your Junk Mail Shows if You’re Rich or Poor - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:34:51] <exec> 08└─Some of us have to read at zero to effectively do our jobs here on the site, and there are also many good comments that start out with a zero score. If nobody ever read them, they would never get modded up and become viewable by anybody else if we all follow your logic. We do remarkably well at avoi...
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[11:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Asshole - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:32:48] <exec> 08└─Running for president stating he would wave a magic wand, successfully fix a specific issue and resign is so arrogant it boggles the mind. Now we're supposed to think he's magically developed a deep understanding of American politics, economics, foreign policy and also the character, strength and wi...
[11:32:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You have completly missed the point - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:32:49] <exec> 08└─That one issue is at the core of everything that is wrong. The gov't is for sale to the highest bidder. What exists is an oligarchy. If you don't see the Fascism of the 1930s in the USA of the 21st Century, your understanding of the state of things is extremely poor. Until the underlying problem is...
[11:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Re:Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:33:14] <exec> 08└─We've been looking since the 70s for a true replacement, and haven't committed to one yet.
[11:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:33:15] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile, we're stuck with an unreliable, inaccurate, overpenetrating piece of junk.
[11:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Austin Powers afraid of: - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:21] <exec> 08└─This article reminded me of this: Austin Powers: Only two things scare me and one of them is nuclear war. Basil Exposition: What's the other? Austin Powers: Excuse me? Basil Exposition: What's the other thing that scares you? Austin Powers: Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage....
[11:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wonder what they will replace it with? - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:02] <exec> 08└─I'd guess its on "SyFy", probably around the same time as "Ghost Hunters".
[11:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:For Science! - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:18] <exec> 08└─The fact that their stars were "special effects" gurus instead of scientists should have tipped you off.
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[11:38:11] <exec> 08└─We are the testers. Sadly there's no in-game interface to the bug report system, you have to quit the game and then report the bug. Oh and game save's disabled.
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[12:37:06] <exec> 08└─"Not renewed for another season" is the same thing as "canceled". There are plenty of shows that don't get renewed for a new season despite ending on cliffhangers and having many unresolved plot threads - Stargate Universe, the original run of Heroes, off the top of my head - they were very much can...
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[13:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Flyingmoose [4369] (Score:1) 02So what's the actual improvement? - 06Magnetically Controlled Battery Could Store Energy for Power Grids - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:56] <exec> 08└─Having to use a magnetic fluid sounds complicated and expensive compared to using a bog-standard pump. The summary doesn't really say what's special about except *waves hands* MAGNETIC!
[13:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:''get a moderate Democrat nominated'' - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:32:11] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately I can't answer that -- because it will likely be another third-party protest vote for me this coming election.
[13:32:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:what could possibly go wrong? - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:32:28] <exec> 08└─now we'll have pit bulls who can track you down ! (trading on 'bad' pit bulls meme when i have a whip-pit-bull myself...)
[13:32:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 976 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:40] <exec> 08└─We've been using the M16 or a derivative since Vietnam. Every competition to find a replacement has been canceled or resulted in "no significant improvements found" (which is a load of crap, because almost anything would be a measurable improvement over the M4A1). The ACR was deemed a dead end, and...
[13:32:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:tech frontrunner isnt a big name: STI-Detonics - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:32:46] <exec> 08└─'better', 'decent', 'meets specs', blah blah blah sure, but does they company make the right 'campaign contributions' ? ? ?
[13:33:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gman003 [4155] 02Re:Commentary - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:33:02] <exec> 08└─Necessary? I suppose not. But in this case, it seems fitting.
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[22:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's a tiny box, made out of wood - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:11] <exec> 08└─Does it weigh the same as a duck?
[22:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02There is only one way to test this - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:20] <exec> 08└─Let's see if this [goodbye-microsoft.com] works...
[22:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:There is only one way to test this - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:21] <exec> 08└─My family didn't want to use Linux, so I snuck it on and gave it a Windows makeover. It looks like Windows, but doesn't stink like Windows.
[22:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:There is only one way to test this - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:23] <exec> 08└─At least that is a link to the download page. If you'd gone to the actual download link, you might be strung up here for trying to trick folks into installing systemd.
[22:31:24] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:25] <exec> 08└─I had almost the same experience! When I had to reinstall the OS one time, I used a Linux USB by accident. Could barely tell the difference... Except that HDMI didn't work, the SD card didn't work, single-click mode was flakey, desktop icons kept rearranging on reboot, it kept wanting to connect to...
[22:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:27] <exec> 08└─Closing the lid always works for me. Never any problem.
[22:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:29] <exec> 08└─Depending on your wm/de of choice and the hardware you're using, it might be automagically configured correctly or might be a total pain in the ass.
[22:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:30] <exec> 08└─Yeah, for me too. Only problem, I don't see anything until I open my eyes again. :-)
[22:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:33] <exec> 08└─But what about opening it?
[22:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Almost - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:34] <exec> 08└─Who still uses desktop icons? I use mouse gestures to open my frequently used apps, the panel shortcuts for Chrome, Thunderbird, and terminal, and the menu button for everything else. My desktop is clean except for wallpaper and conky.
[22:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03_NSAKEY [16] (Score:2) 02Newer KDE versions DO look kind of like Windows. - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:36] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of a conversation at my local LUG. We compared the current KDE builds to Windows 10, and there's a good amount of similarity in lots of random places. This story isn't all that surprising.
[22:31:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marco2G [5749] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:38] <exec> 08└─So a user, probably on standardized company hardware, did a prescripted OS install and you think that says ANYTHING about the ease of use of Linux? Yeah... no. The moment the install, to which she probably didn't have to contribute even one keystroke, ended, she ran into trouble. "Where is Outlook a...
[22:31:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:39] <exec> 08└─"Where is Outlook and what's with this Office?"
[22:31:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 3004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:41] <exec> 08└─I'm constantly surprised by how little most people know about Excel. Simple, basic things like cutting and pasting entire columns/rows to rearrange some data is an unknown feature. I've watched people sort data by hand instead of using the sort option. For Word, it's other irritations. Almost every...
[22:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:43] <exec> 08└─I wish there were more of these “Microsoft Essentials” classes.
[22:31:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:45] <exec> 08└─So a user, probably on standardized company hardware, did a prescripted OS install and you think that says ANYTHING about the ease of use of Linux? Yeah... no.
[22:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:46] <exec> 08└─"Where is Outlook and what's with this Office?"
[22:31:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] 02And? - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 543 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:48] <exec> 08└─Is there a moral to this story? User triggered a company's pre-configured network install of a different OS (that's why it was so easy to install - "she just hit Enter"). User then made vaguely reasonable assumption that it was some weird kind of Windows, probably because she'd never heard of anythi...
[22:31:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Bogus - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:50] <exec> 08└─"We utilize a PXE network install server and a Puppet system that lets us set up a new Linux desktop in less than 10 minutes completely hands-off. We go through growth phases every so often where we suddenly need multiple new desktops deployed, and this automated system saves our staff many hours of...
[22:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Bogus - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 857 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:51] <exec> 08└─A successful install requires some basic knowledge about your environment and your hardware Does it really? It's been years since I last installed a desktop linux from scratch (like in the article I built a PXE and iso based deployment server for our company back in 2006, had about 2200 installs off...
[22:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So... - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:53] <exec> 08└─Is she hot?
[22:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So... - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:31:55] <exec> 08└─no, just bothered.
[22:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Now always simple - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 3483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:57] <exec> 08└─Sometimes its not so simple. (Note: my other desktop installed mint just fine with no issues and has worked great for over a year. Both are using Nvidia cards driving and the same monitors. I've never had anywhere near this much trouble with Linux before) So I'm on my 5th reinstall on Linux mint on...
[22:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I don't buy it - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:59] <exec> 08└─How'd her Windows install go "corrupt"? She's the type of person who uses Outlook for e-mail, so what could she have done that screwed up her boot sector to the point that Windows wouldn't even try to load its "Windows was improperly shut down, please choose an option" menu? If the hard drive had ac...
[22:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't buy it - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:01] <exec> 08└─...and who set up and WHY did they set up PXE to boot an automated installer for some Linux desktop distro? I could understand them doing some server type deal if I was properly convinced, but something with KDE? Nah...
[22:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't buy it - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:03] <exec> 08└─And windows can do the *SAME* *EXACT* *THING* https://technet.microsoft.com [microsoft.com] It has for years. What a *non* story. Some IT dept setup PXE to setup linux with a very hands off approach. Uh huh. Yeah aaaaaaaaand? Sure it is pretty cool when it wo...
[22:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02Network install easier than full diskless - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:05] <exec> 08└─A few years ago, I edited a copy of knoppix for network booting. Took me about 1 line of tftp / xinetd configuration1 line of nfs configuration4 lines of dhcp configuration10 lines of initrd/linuxrc script editinga freshly compiled copy of busybox (tftp is really slow; so it helps to make the initrd...
[22:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02First rule - 06ISPs “Reminded” to Not Use Government Money for Alcohol and Vacations - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:06] <exec> 08└─First rule of capitalism: I takes the money, and it is MINE MINE MINE! There will be a court case going to the Supremes over this.
[22:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:First rule - 06ISPs “Reminded” to Not Use Government Money for Alcohol and Vacations - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:08] <exec> 08└─How can I make sure that twisted pair copper cable providing 128k DSL keeps working if I'm not happy? And I'm not happy unless there is a hooker sucking my dick while I'm doing a line of coke.
[22:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's too easy to launder... - 06ISPs “Reminded” to Not Use Government Money for Alcohol and Vacations - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:10] <exec> 08└─Upper management "No gambling with bonus assets, but you can give it to them in cash then there's no paper trail"
[22:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Exception - 06ISPs “Reminded” to Not Use Government Money for Alcohol and Vacations - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:11] <exec> 08└─No government money for booze or trips, but once you use your own dime to get there it's okay to use government money (or should be government money) for hookers [washingtonexaminer.com]!
[22:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course not - 06ISPs “Reminded” to Not Use Government Money for Alcohol and Vacations - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:13] <exec> 08└─You wouldn't want us to act like a bailed out bank.
[22:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02With apologies to Yes - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:15] <exec> 08└─Owner of a foamy heart Owner of a foamy heart It's much better than a- Owner of a failing heart Owner of a foamy heart
[22:32:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02other approach - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:17] <exec> 08└─http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-to-3-d-print-a-heart [kurzweilai.net] http://advances.sciencemag.org [sciencemag.org]
[22:32:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02Hmmm... - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:18] <exec> 08└─Seems to me to be real foam making that artificial heart.... :)
[22:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02"Artificial" Foam Hearts: - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:20] <exec> 08└─As opposed to all natural, gluten free, foam hearts?
[22:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Funny) 02Smirk - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:22] <exec> 08└─when [...] liquid is pumped through it, the material [...] can change its length by 300 percent.
[22:32:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smirk - 06Artificial Foam Heart - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:24] <exec> 08└─This material could be suitable for an artificial penis, for example for people who have had spinal cord injury, gender reassignment surgery, severed penis, or erectile dysfunction. Funny stuff.
[22:32:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02sometimes obvious is not enough.... - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:26] <exec> 08└─The scientific view is that there are problems to solve. The political view, is that there are problems to create to make some profit out of exploiting public office.
[22:32:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Redundant) 02Re:sometimes obvious is not enough.... - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:27] <exec> 08└─The coal and oil industry view, espoused by think tanks funded exclusively by them, is that there are problems to solve. ftfy
[22:32:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:29] <exec> 08└─They come to my house, they install the solar panels, then I have to buy the electricity from them? Really? Why didn't I just buy the freaking panels, install them myself (or pay someone more qualified than I to install them) - that way I would have FREE (or nearly free) electricity for as long as t...
[22:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03compro01 [2515] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:31] <exec> 08└─They come to my house, they install the solar panels, then I have to buy the electricity from them? Really? Why didn't I just buy the freaking panels, install them myself (or pay someone more qualified than I to install them) - that way I would have FREE (or nearly free) electricity for as long as t...
[22:32:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:33] <exec> 08└─Exactly. The outlay on a solar setup maybe $20k or more. If you have that much to spare (or can get the home equity loan to cover it), then fantastic. It's definitely worth it rather than going to Solar City route. But most people can't tie up that much money for a decade to recoup the outlay.
[22:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:35] <exec> 08└─And this is why those with money are able to keep their money, invest their money, and otherwise, gain the benefits of having their money. The poor get to lease what the rich get to own, and thus control. Of course. I fool myself about of lot of things I think I control, too, but this is a pretty cl...
[22:32:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:37] <exec> 08└─And this is why those with money are able to keep their money, invest their money, and otherwise, gain the benefits of having their money.
[22:32:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 1948 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:39] <exec> 08└─No, its not lease with option to buy that is outlawed. That would be perfectly ok in Florida if the contract was written that way. If they sold you the equipment on an installment plan, that would be fine too. But these companies are selling electricity by the KWH. Electricity is just dangerous enou...
[22:32:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 1207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:40] <exec> 08└─$20K? Not necessarily. Installation costs are falling swiftly, which has become the higher cost barrier than the panels themselves. The panels you can get wholesale [wholesalesolar.com] at ~$1/watt. The site I linked to has pallets of 20 Astronergy 315W panels for $5670. My family uses below 300kwh/...
[22:32:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:42] <exec> 08└─Exactly. The installed cost is falling every day, and locking yourself into a long term payment plan by the KWH seems sort of silly at this time. Even if you assume a 20 year fixed KWH price from one of these "Your-Roof, Our-System" operators you still are locked into a price in a falling price mark...
[22:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:45] <exec> 08└─> you still are locked into a price in a falling price market. lolwut? At best residential fees for centralized power never drop more than a few percent even when oil prices have halved. Factor in inflation and the fixed price solar contract is the one with a falling price, not the utility.
[22:32:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:47] <exec> 08└─Except you'd never see those falling prices because you'd be locked into paying whatever price was determined when the contract was signed. Are you really so naive that you think they'd let anybody sign a contract that wouldn't have the falling prices increase their profit margin?
[22:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:49] <exec> 08└─That's it, we're marking you as a communist. Daring to use outsourced engineering and assembly to enrich your own profit and realize your own value potential? That's... downright unAmerican!
[22:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:52] <exec> 08└─In two, five, or ten years, the panels are paid off, and I begin to enjoy free electricity!!
[22:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:55] <exec> 08└─You are doing the usual comparison of apples to oranges. On average, you can expect to 'profit' similarly to the third party. They aren't doing this for a 5% yearly ROI, particularly with power prices increasing. As for selling the house, it's not like "oh, you installed it, now it's worth 40% less"...
[22:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:57] <exec> 08└─On average, you can expect to 'profit' similarly to the third party. They aren't doing this for a 5% yearly ROI, particularly with power prices increasing.
[22:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:32:58] <exec> 08└─And when you try to sell your house, you find the solar company filed a lean against it, and you have to pay off the full installation costs, or pay a removal fee. Contracts are not necessarily transferable. The more you read about this scheme, the more you begin to think Florida may have been right...
[22:32:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:00] <exec> 08└─In two, five, or ten years, the panels are paid off, and I begin to enjoy free electricity!!
[22:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:01] <exec> 08└─That concept is nothing new in capitalism: Whoever controls the means of production has the ability to extract profit from it without doing anything else. It's no different from an absentee investor in a manufacturing plant who gets more money from the production of whatever they're manufacturing th...
[22:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 1850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:03] <exec> 08└─Other reasons: 4) maintenance is fully covered by the vendor, even storm damage 5) You don't have to know anything about electricity, batteries, charging, solar cells, or climbing on roofs 6) negotiating leverage with the power grid for inter-ties 7) potential to gang roof tops in housing subdivisio...
[22:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02reduce the state's restrictions on rooftop solar - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:05] <exec> 08└─Um, it should read 'eliminate' not 'reduce'. Government has no business restricting this. None.
[22:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:reduce the state's restrictions on rooftop sola - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:06] <exec> 08└─Government has no business restricting this. None.
[22:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02all or nothing? - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 1707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:08] <exec> 08└─Pay-back time depends on electricity prices. historically methinks that they tend to go up. where i live 70% of electricity is generated by burning cheap gas. gas is at a low but one can assume that it will not last, 400 $ per megaton something to 800 $ a realistic doubling of gas prices will have a...
[22:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:all or nothing? - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:10] <exec> 08└─10 years payback time, then doubling of gas prices will give payback time of ~5 years.
[22:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:all or nothing? - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:12] <exec> 08└─good point. in my 70% gas electricity country they are trying to get privat people to invest into a land based solarfarm but only if a "goverment" entity is involved .. for example a university because government entity is forbidden by law to do it all by themselfs... i do all the work and then get...
[22:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Corrupt Bondi - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:13] <exec> 08└─"public servant" Pam Bondi, Florida's Attorney General is a real piece of work. One of her first acts on getting into office was to fire two lawyers investigating fraudulent foreclosure practices. With the record of the reptilian crook in the governors mansion its not surprising she's in the pockets...
[22:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Corrupt Bondi - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:15] <exec> 08└─Maybe those two lawyers were moving too slow, an dragging their feet, and not getting any results. Not every news story is what it seems. The division’s director, Richard Lawson, has assigned 14 attorneys and investigators to work on the cases that belonged to Edwards and Clarkson.
[22:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score:2) 02Re:Corrupt Bondi - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:17] <exec> 08└─Maybe those two lawyers were moving too slow, an dragging their feet, and not getting any results. Not every news story is what it seems. The division’s director, Richard Lawson, has assigned 14 attorneys and investigators to work on the cases that belonged to Edwards and Clarkson.
[22:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meanwhile, in ALEC's exurban bunker... - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:19] <exec> 08└─...a plan is hatched to "reform" (end) net metering. http://www.alec.org [alec.org] http://www.alec.org [alec.org]
[22:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02CueCats lurking under rocks, hunting mousepads - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:20] <exec> 08└─I am hoping that future civilization also understands the futility of the utility of the CueCat and grants us the benefit of presuming we had some wisdom, despite everything else. If even we knew to discard it -- and hide it, under a rock, so that no one would get it garbage picking or on ebay (same...
[22:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03crb3 [5919] (Score:2, Insightful) 02CueCats? - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 1231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:22] <exec> 08└─> What will future hikers think of our civilization when they stumble across our CueCats lying, discarded, under rocks? Not bloody likely. The 'responsible' (I'm being charitable here) company had them smashed and trashed at the local Radio Shack and everywhere else I looked. So their initial market...
[22:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:CueCats? - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:24] <exec> 08└─I did something similar. I had 2-3 of the things and wrote code thinking I'd make an accurate catalog of my books. Typical me, once I got the code working I never got around to scanning more than 10% of my books.
[22:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the black sword - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:26] <exec> 08└─Miun has been waiting for the man with the black sword.
[22:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:the black sword - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:27] <exec> 08└─Since I didn't know what that was: http://phantasystar.wikia.com [wikia.com]
[22:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Single-edged? - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:29] <exec> 08└─I noticed it looks like a single-edged profile, which I don't recall seeing on viking swords I'd seen before. Had to scroll a few pages through an image search for [viking sword] before I found an example, originating from (appropriately enough) this thread https://sbg-sword-forum.forums.net
[22:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Single-edged? - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:31] <exec> 08└─What is popular today in an image search and what was are not at all the same.
[22:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rickter [842] (Score:2, Informative) 02ULFBERHT - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:33] <exec> 08└─I saw a very interesting NOVA on PBS recently about a series of swords used by the Vikings labeled with the word ULFBERHT (many labelled similarly were counterfeits (like fake Swiss watches)). Unlike other swords of the time, these swords were made with a quality of steel not reproduced until modern...
[22:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:ULFBERHT - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:34] <exec> 08└─Damascus steel [wikipedia.org]?
[22:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02dyslexia - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:36] <exec> 08└─I misread this as "1,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hitler" and thought it was the plot of a comic book
[22:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:dyslexia - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:38] <exec> 08└─That was my first impression as well.
[22:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:1) 02Higher up the mountain pass - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:40] <exec> 08└─they found evidence of a 1200 year old swap meet.
[22:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Cult object - 061,200-year-old Viking Sword Discovered by Hiker - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:41] <exec> 08└─What will future hikers think of our civilization when they stumble across our CueCats lying, discarded, under rocks?
[22:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:3, Interesting) 02No - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:43] <exec> 08└─We don't need any more categories to confuse people. Categories 1 to 3 mean get prepared and take shelter. Category 4 means take extra precautions, and consider leaving. Category 5 means get the heck out of dodge. Higher categories will make some people think they can ride it out, because after all,...
[22:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03chrysosphinx [5262] (Score:1) 02Re:No - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:45] <exec> 08└─We don't need any more categories to confuse people.
[22:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:No - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:47] <exec> 08└─perhaps unconfused people there should build more churches to prevent cat 7 storms.
[22:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:No - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 823 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:48] <exec> 08└─Not true. "Get the heck out of dodge" reasonably means going to the local storm shelter for the duration -- especially in urban areas where mass evacuation isn't practical. Especially especially in a case such as Patricia where the storm goes from a mere tropical depression to the most powerful stor...
[22:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:50] <exec> 08└─> We don't need any more categories to confuse people. Besides, it wouldn't work in the lyrics, "I was born in a class-seven hurricane" just wouldn't make it as the opener to Jumpin' Jack Flash.
[22:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:4, Funny) 02Twister 2.0 - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:52] <exec> 08└─From the new movie 'Twister 2': "Cow!" "Another cow!" "No, i think that's the same cow." ...... "McDonalds!" "Another McDonalds!" "Yeah... McDonalds is a great place to eat... lets drive up in our super heavy Hummer that is certainly too heavy for this twister to pick up. I don't know why EVERYBODY...
[22:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02el-dead-algae - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:54] <exec> 08└─hopefully people can find a mine, abandoned or not or cave or tunnel or something and find shelter? just wondering if this might(?) have a connection to the gulf oil spill? all that energy manifesting itself now? or all the algae that wasn't born (poisoned on birth) and thus not helping to cool the...
[22:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Expected vs actual - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:56] <exec> 08└─The link says the actual wind speed turned out to be 165. This may be a classic case of expectation bias: "The wind speed must be increasing, our theory says they have to."
[22:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Expected vs actual - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:57] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering about that as well. I just read a different story linked from Google News that also had the 165 mph figure. I remember the other story reported winds in excess of 200 mph. Maybe a metric/imperial units error? I certainly no expert in this field. TFA may have the answer! From the NPR ar...
[22:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Expected vs actual - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:59] <exec> 08└─This is normal -- Measurements by aircraft are almost always high. Sustained winds measured from the ground are almost always lower. Sure there are gusts... but that's not part of the scale we're talking about.
[22:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Expected vs actual - 06Hurricane Patricia: More Categories Are Needed to Accurately Indicate its Strength - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:01] <exec> 08└─It's normal to compare estimates known to be biased to actual historical data? No, that is a sign of pseudoscience.
[22:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Flyingmoose [4369] (Score:2, Touché) 02Now... - 06Australian Technology Allows Cows' Weights to be Monitored From Space - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:03] <exec> 08└─Now this is just begging for the COWS guy to show up...
[22:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Now... - 06Australian Technology Allows Cows' Weights to be Monitored From Space - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:04] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing the products made from these cows are not going to be from farmers that took an interest in the cow's well being, considering they launched something into space to save them the effort of actually inspecting the cows. Oh well if the value meal drops 10 cents then this demonstrates we ne...
[22:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Now... - 06Australian Technology Allows Cows' Weights to be Monitored From Space - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:06] <exec> 08└─What's truly bizarre is that we are just trading meat now. Here in Canada, I can only find Australia and New Zealand frozen lamb, even though we have a bunch of sheep farms [as well as cattle], but our lamb is sent to...Australia and New Zealand.
[22:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The key technology - 06Australian Technology Allows Cows' Weights to be Monitored From Space - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:08] <exec> 08└─Was a custom chip which tracks specific movements of cows, known as a "cow chip".
[22:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Odd reference of scale - 06Australian Technology Allows Cows' Weights to be Monitored From Space - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:10] <exec> 08└─The line "cattle stations as large as some European nations" is weird as soon as one remembers that there are european nations that are quite small (vatican 0.44km2, monaco 1.95km2, san marino 61km2)... Heck, a normal international airport is bigger than some european nations (heathrow airport is ab...
[22:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the actual improvement? - 06Magnetically Controlled Battery Could Store Energy for Power Grids - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:11] <exec> 08└─L0L! that's like using a airplane propeller to compress air in a chamber then burning it and then flowing the exhaust to drive another propeller which is connected to the first propeller. sheesh: *waves hands* TWO propellers ... just use one propeller already ^_^
[22:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So what's the actual improvement? - 06Magnetically Controlled Battery Could Store Energy for Power Grids - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:13] <exec> 08└─Like this [wikimedia.org]?
[22:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:15] <exec> 08└─A lot of people are ignoring her incompetence and illegal activities while Secretary of State because it is a Republican-only issue. The decades long stream of corruption, incompetence, and lies is the only real weakness she has, but you can only exploit it, if you bring attention to it. If Bernie S...
[22:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Bernie [...] needs to rip her throat out'' - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:17] <exec> 08└─Bernie has always refused to go negative in his campaigns. Radio/TV host Thom Hartmann is an unflinching Democrat. He refers to Democrats ragging on other Democrats as a circular firing squad and notes that it is a losing strategy for the party. The Reds are doing more than enough of that on their o...
[22:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:''Bernie [...] needs to rip her throat out'' - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:18] <exec> 08└─He refers to Democrats ragging on other Democrats as a circular firing squad and notes that it is a losing strategy for the party.
[22:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:20] <exec> 08└─A lot of people are ignoring her incompetence and illegal activities while Secretary of State because it is a Republican-only issue.
[22:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 1349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:22] <exec> 08└─I guess we can look at actual evidence. For example, in the email example, there was actual classified information on a private network (which in turn looks like a mostly successful attempt to avoid both the Obama administration oversight and FOIA requests). People who shouldn't have had anything to...
[22:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:23] <exec> 08└─They both appear to hate what the Tea Partiers / Republican obstructionists have done to the Right Wing party but they are both Blue Dogs who still think like Goldwater-era Republicans.
[22:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Heh. khallow distorting history again - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 1622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:25] <exec> 08└─ignoring the economic and political lessons of the past century Only going back 1 century gets us one big success (Democrat interventionist FDR and The New Deal). If we don't cherrypick the data and instead look at the -entire- history of boom-and-bust Capitalism, we get a recession|slump|slowdown (...
[22:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Heh. khallow distorting history again - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:27] <exec> 08└─Only going back 1 century gets us one big success (Democrat interventionist FDR and The New Deal).
[22:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Heh. khallow distorting history again - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 1346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:29] <exec> 08└─The double dip recession of 1936-1937 [...]we didn't have actual economic improvement There was no "double" about it. ...and to have a recession, you need to have a recovery, so your dishonesty and double-talk implode on themselves. Yeah, after 4 years of recovery, FDR foolishly listened to the Neol...
[22:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:You have completly missed the point - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:31] <exec> 08└─This isn't Athens of c. 500 BC, or a small town discussing an issue with zoning, this is the Internet age. When it comes to major public policy issues, to a large extent people get their opinions for the media, from TV news channels (real or "faux"), talk radio, web sites and YouTube videos, and com...
[22:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thinks he understands Athenian Democracy - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 1591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:34] <exec> 08└─The Democracy (not "republic") of ancient Athens had massive citizen involvement. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [dissidentvoice.org] ("Jury size" will be a real eye-opener for you.) Your attempt to construct a metaphor falls flat here. . [Lessig] can't do anything about [the injection of money into...
[22:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's a conspiracy by the media and two parties - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:36] <exec> 08└─To shut out Presidential candidates with unconventional platforms like John McAfee.
[22:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:coming soon to a pet shop near you... - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:38] <exec> 08└─Thats exactly what came to my mind when they said "doubled-muscled". When the zombie virus spreads, these animals will be very hard to kill or get rid of. The zombie apocalypse just got a lot harder to survive because of "double-muscled" animals.
[22:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:46] <exec> 08└─Well, if you like to breed, there are some folks in the German/Austrian areas that might suit your needs. I may get beaten to a pulp by their women,, but I can't say that such risks are a would be a sacrifice I wouldn't make. http://www.nbcnews.com
[22:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:48] <exec> 08└─That case is mentioned in TFA. In rare cases, a person can also be born without any working copy of myostatin. In 2004 doctors reported a newborn who “appeared extraordinarily muscular, with protruding muscles in his thighs and upper arms.” They confirmed he was missing the myostatin gene and no...
[22:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:49] <exec> 08└─That's the one, but my citation uses more "American" terminology.
[22:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Slippery Slope - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:34:51] <exec> 08└─I'm not certain, but it's my expectation that this mutation drastically shortens the life of those who possess it. As in dying of old age in your twenties. So I don't expect it to be popular for people. Beef cattle, however... Well, they don't live long anyway, and this would increase the number of...
[22:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How the scam works - 06Scientists Create Extra-Muscular Beagles - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:53] <exec> 08└─The crispr people have practically nothing when it comes to evidence thier method actually works, so they have been shaping the discussion to be about the moral and economic consequences if it did work. This forces you to assume, at least for the moment, that their weakly backed claims are correct....
[22:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:01] <exec> 08└─Also, I know it hurts to admit, but there are subversive agents in the US government that do not want a strong & well equipped US Army
[22:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:02] <exec> 08└─Seriously? Undermine an army that has tanks, artillery, missiles and air support by making its pistol hard to handle?
[22:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Still no new rifle? - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:04] <exec> 08└─Ditto. They work juuuuust fine. Even with bad eyesight in my right eye I could pop the 300M targets better than half the time with my properly zeroed A3.
[22:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:A fool's errand - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 902 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:07] <exec> 08└─Snort. Yeah, I figured there wouldn't be any fault of substance found. Women's hands too small, for God's sake. It's hopeless to have real military priorities when the military is being used for a goddam social experiment. A Sheila isn't going to be able to carry a wounded 80 kg man on her back eith...
[22:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:A fool's errand - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:09] <exec> 08└─Um, More than half a million women served in front-line combat operations with the Red Army during WWII. The sheila's did just fine as soldiers.
[22:35:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EQ [1716] 02tech frontrunner isnt a big name: STI-Detonics STX - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 1842 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:10] <exec> 08└─Here are the requirements -- note the first few are all about accuracy in combat, and the latter ones are about flexibility in function. Whats surprising is that last item, they arent specifying a caliber. modular grips that accepts a wide-range of hand-sizes (5th to 95th percentile)low felt recoil...
[22:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Killing tools - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:12] <exec> 08└─Do you not remember, when the challenge of honor was given, the party put upon was given the choice of weapons?
[22:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Killing tools - 06Gun Makers Compete to Produce US Army’s New Official Handgun - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:14] <exec> 08└─War is not a game, moron.
[22:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Payback is such a bitch... - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:24] <exec> 08└─Indeed, they learned that if you release it all at once, people lose interest and there is too much to go through and some good stuff gets lost in the noise... I don't think people are tiring of hearing of these things, regardless of what some people say, but there is truth in that to keep people in...
[22:35:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Oblig - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 1300 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:27] <exec> 08└─This comment deserves a +10. +5 Funny, and +5 Insightful at the same time. I have to disagree with another poster about the cynicism in the submitter's comment. There is no cynicism in the statement he is experiencing what it is like to be one of the common folk. I'm truly laughing my ass off, but t...
[22:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:35] <exec> 08└─Ballsy... stupid, but ballsy. I find this really cool and amazing but, talk about making enemies.
[22:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reminds me of this movie phrase - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:37] <exec> 08└─Yes, marijuana can greatly impair one's judgment, leading to bad decisions. That's one reason it should be banned. It can also be addictive--as it obviously is for someone who uses it "all day, every day". That's another reason.
[22:35:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] 02Re:Online security was a solved problem in 1989 - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 3913 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:39] <exec> 08└─You're implying this piddling social engineering of unused AOL email, and release of (likely already) public info isn't just a PSYOP. It's like you don't even consider Snowden worked for the CIA before the "NSA Leaks" which are likely Panopticon-like acclimation via a limited hangout operation. Most...
[22:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Online security was a solved problem in 1989 - 06WikiLeaks Publishes CIA Chief's Personal Info - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:41] <exec> 08└─yep, they're always pushing the incompetence angle. A lot of this stuff is just too stupid, even for these jackasses.
[22:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:So-called? - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:35:54] <exec> 08└─The definitions you mention neglect that the human operator or whatever has to be present on the vehicle in order for it to be manned. That's just the way it is.
[22:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:01] <exec> 08└─Agreed, that is pretty obviously harassment of nesting birds. And, I think it reinforces my comment about predator-like behaviour. Anything that is overly interested in a nest, is obviously (to the birds) interested in a meal. Eggs, or chicks, or even the adult breeding birds - there's no reason (f...
[22:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:04] <exec> 08└─Plus, his drone was operating right over a large power line. That has to be illegal as well.
[22:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:05] <exec> 08└─I can't see that. Why would that be illegal? The power companies have easements across the land, they don't own the land over which the lines run. The drone presents no danger to the power line. The power line is a danger to the drone, of course, but the reverse isn't true. As for danger, it is bein...
[22:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:07] <exec> 08└─The drone presents no danger to the power line.
[22:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 1092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:09] <exec> 08└─I could be wrong, but I don't think the drone is large enough to short two wires together. It MIGHT be large enough to short one line to the tower, but I don't see that as likely. Those birds don't short lines to towers, nor do squirrels. The possibility exists, the probability is exceedingly slim....
[22:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Predatory behaviour - 06Animals Spy a New Enemy: Drones - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:36:11] <exec> 08└─I could be wrong, but I don't think the drone is large enough to short two wires together.
[22:38:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:The old crew - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:38:59] <exec> 08└─I would watch a half hour show of Kari Byron smiling. Weekly.
[22:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:For Science! - 06Mythbusters to End After Next Season - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:39:11] <exec> 08└─non-scientists doing science is more likely to get the masses thinking and experimenting.
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[23:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Point? - 06A Social Network of Human Proteins - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:06] <exec> 08└─Is there a concrete point to this story/research?
[23:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Parkinson's - 06A Social Network of Human Proteins - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:07] <exec> 08└─Is alpha synuclein on the list? Its misfolding is implicated in Parkinson's disease, and no one seems to know what it's good for.
[23:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02No, thank you. - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:18] <exec> 08└─You can pry my keyboard from my dead, cold hands.
[23:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No, thank you. - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:19] <exec> 08└─You can pry my keyboard from my dead, cold hands.
[23:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02No way - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:21] <exec> 08└─Projects and ideas are grouped in orbs and clusters. The team decided to design it that way to create better focus. Forget about emailing documents back and forth. The system has been designed around social networking and collaboration. Solu uses cloud computing to help people work together on docum...
[23:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:No way - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:22] <exec> 08└─People who perform real work do not use social networks - in part because they know better, and in part because social networks are banned in their corporate offices.
[23:31:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02Yes and no - 06Finland Team's Collaborative Device Could Spark Farewell to PCs - 1393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:24] <exec> 08└─First, an hearty, "Fuck no!" to their particular implementation with a subscription-based required cloud service that holds all your documents hostage. The basic idea itself isn't so bad: a smartphone / table type of device that fits in your pocket and that you can easily dock to a full-sized displa...
[23:31:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm, no - 06Woman Installs Linux by Accident; Thinks It's Just MSFT's Latest Stuff - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:31:43] <exec> 08└─I'll bet they'll gloss over completely what's actually happening during an AJAX call.
[23:32:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhm, WUT?!?! - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:32:41] <exec> 08└─The price of solar is falling daily. But if you sign a contract with one of these "Your Roof, Our Power" solar companies you will never see that drop.
[23:32:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WTF, from a former Floridian - 06Florida Supreme Court Removes Barrier to Widespread Solar Power - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:59] <exec> 08└─I lived in Gainesville, Florida, for four years. There were solar panels on apartment buildings, solar panels on the airport [gra-gnv.com], and a big solar panel display on the solar panel installer's lawn on 331 heading south out of town. The University of Florida has a big solar energy research pr...
[23:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:In other ''Democrat'' news... - 06Presidential Candidate Larry Lessig Dumps His Resignation Gimmick - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:34:25] <exec> 08└─In the Democratic debate, Chaffee spoke [thenation.com] in favour of clemency for Edward Snowden. Perhaps Barry Goldwater would have done the same. Mr. Goldwater's Wikipedia bio [wikipedia.org] says "he became a vocal opponent of the religious right on issues such as abortion, gay rights, and the ro...
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