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[00:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Generalizations are dumb - 06The Seduction of the New - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:44] <exec> 08└─I switched to Linux to get better security, stability and to stop paying the MS tax. I'm currently using a workstation running RHEL6 and am on Xubuntu 12.04 at home. Who is this Linux user that's supposed to be on the upgrade treadmill again? It certainly doesn't apply to me.
[00:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02New, cool, different, exciting - 06The Seduction of the New - 1202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:45] <exec> 08└─Chasing the new isn't enough for me. I'm a distro hopper. I enjoy sitting down, installing something new, with a different desktop environment, new and different utilities, applications, etc. Well - there's not much that's actually "new" nowadays, except for systemd. But, each new installation at le...
[00:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:1, Troll) 02phoronix - 06The Seduction of the New - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:47] <exec> 08└─If you look at phoronix.com even today, it's the same problems as when Linux came out. Intel releasing new CPUs that won't even work with the newest kernel, a new kernel busting the AMD drivers. Regressions all over the place. A quick skim of these articles explains why I'm running Windows.
[00:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Re:phoronix - 06The Seduction of the New - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:48] <exec> 08└─+1 Troll :-)
[00:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03pinchy [777] (Score:1) 02Re:Well done mr price - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:36:58] <exec> 08└─With the payment backends I deal with, the time for an EMV transaction to get authorized is the same as the card mag stripe swipe. These dont support contactless so you have to leave the card inserted until the approval comes back which can make the wait time a lot more apparent. But the implementat...
[00:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:01] <exec> 08└─So I think that having a $70k minimum salary is great, and I'm glad they are doing well. BUT, I am forced to wonder if their success is more strongly correlated with their increase in press about the minimum salary, versus the direct effects of the salary itself... that is, would they be doing as we...
[00:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:02] <exec> 08└─Undoubtedly a boost, but the fact that they haven't run into the ground due to cost overruns is still the main achievement.
[00:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah... that's what i took away from it too. A bunch of resumes and a bunch of customer inquiries... could they have spent the money directly on marketing any more effectively? Probably not. Will the interest and growth continue at this pace, without the stream of press this generated? Also probably...
[00:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:06] <exec> 08└─Lots of kudos to them. This sets a strong precedent for other companies to start doing the same, although I hope the growth isn't just due to PR and actually comes from increased productivity, since that's all most CEOs care about.
[00:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:07] <exec> 08└─Yes, lets get Walmart to do this for all 2.2 million US employees. That would only come out to $154 Billion in annual salaries. I'm sure they could absorb 10x their net annual income in increased worker pay.
[00:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:1) 02CEO Probably Read This Article Too - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:09] <exec> 08└─The CEO probably read this article recently too. [soylentnews.org] Or at least already knew about these rich people problems, being one. Probably has enough money to not have to worry about it. And hey, by dropping pay from $1m down to the $70k minimum, you probably don't have to deal with so many p...
[00:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Hmmm - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:15] <exec> 08└─Does "inflammation of my penis" count?
[00:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hmmm - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:16] <exec> 08└─Does "inflammation of my penis" count?
[00:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Re:Valid problem, but also a bit of hyperventilat - 06Hospital Messed Up Medications in Half of Surgeries — How Common is it? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:27] <exec> 08└─Perhaps one can be both?
[00:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unconstitutional - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:37:57] <exec> 08└─Americans are stupid and easily distracted, not cowards.
[00:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Efficiency - 06Where Are the Jobs Really? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:40:26] <exec> 08└─I would say that stocks are the ULTIMATE in collectibles.
[00:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Strangely enough - 06Cognitive Enhancement May Not be All It's Cracked Up To Be. - 2554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:29] <exec> 08└─I don't think there will be a productive discussion on this topic. Naysayers will say nay, and the people that use any of this will see those naysayers and will be unlikely to draw attention to themselves due to the negative stigma about being chemically enhanced. I think there is a sort of unfairne...
[00:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stingray? - 06US IRS Bought Stingray, Stingray II, and Hailstorm IMSI-Catchers - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:41:43] <exec> 08└─IRS != FBI It is pretty simple really. I fart like a trumpet often, doesn't make my ass a musical instrument nor me a musician.
[00:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Some math - 06US Regulators Issue First Nuclear Plant Operating License Since 1996 - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:24] <exec> 08└─Small business can't build reactors. Big business can't be trusted - you'd be first in line to bitch about that.
[00:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh man, I'm so glad I grew out of this - 06TechRadar Asks: "Has Microsoft Admitted Defeat in the Console Sales War?" - 1348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:41] <exec> 08└─Those people are regular people and not "gamers". This is also the reason "gamers" hate non-gamers, because their poor "taste" is diluting the quality of the industry. Now, it's true that non-gamers are not the cause of the console wars, but at least without them, the console wars will only be fough...
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[01:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Generalizations are dumb - 06The Seduction of the New - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:36:46] <exec> 08└─Same here. I'm using Mint KDE 17.1. One big reason I use Mint is because it's behind the curve with all the latest-and-greatest. So I'm not using systemd just yet, and I'm still using KDE 4.12 instead of the new 5.x series. I might upgrade to 17.2 before too long if I have some free time, but that o...
[01:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02this is relatively recent in Linux distros - 06The Seduction of the New - 1231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:50] <exec> 08└─What Linux version you run is hugely dependent on the apps and services you want to use. When I first installed Linux and 1992 and for at least a decade afterward, you were not only forced to upgrade but it was particularly painful. A service update would often require a more recent library. That n...
[01:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Upgrade is not the end-game. - 06The Seduction of the New - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:51] <exec> 08└─[It] set me wondering why so many Linux users chase upgrades for little or no new features.
[01:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Comic showing its age. - 06The Seduction of the New - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:53] <exec> 08└─OS X updates are free now. It's part of what forced Microsoft to give Windows 10 away.
[01:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well done mr price - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:05] <exec> 08└─One more reason to pay with cash. I only use my CC for internet purchases nowadays. Cash is fast, cash is anonymous, cash has no minimum fees. Just don't get mugged or your pocket picked.
[01:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Two bungholes that won't be missed - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:07] <exec> 08└─I think it's funny how many [conservatives/capitalists] don't understand the 'demand' part of Supply and Demand. You'll notice that most companies have some sort of sales and marketing department intended to raise demand, but consumer groups rarely do anything to encourage supply. In other words, co...
[01:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03meledian [268] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:13] <exec> 08└─Looking over the 2014 report, looks lIke they only made about 125 billion in profit. http://stock.walmart.com [walmart.com]
[01:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:14] <exec> 08└─> Yes, lets get Walmart to do this for all 2.2 million US employees. Howabout, lets at least get Walmart to pay all of their 2.2. million US employees enough that they don't have to use foodstamps?
[01:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hmmm - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:37:27] <exec> 08└─Priapism [wikipedia.org] is a dangerous medical condition. Because ischemic priapism causes the blood to remain in the penis for unusually long periods of time, the blood becomes deprived of oxygen and can cause damage to the penile tissue itself. Should the penile tissue become damaged, it can furt...
[01:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Food allergies - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 1232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:28] <exec> 08└─I'm a firm believer in food allergies/gastro-intestinal issues being a BIG cause in mental issues: i thought my mother was going INSANE when i was a teenager. Then she found out she was lactose intolerant and when she switched off milk/dairy, she became sane again. My son was off the wall (literally...
[01:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03meisterister [949] (Score:2) 02Re:Popping zero pills a day - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:38:53] <exec> 08└─Nah, I never get headaches that bad, I'm sure you are exaggerating /sarc
[01:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Sudafed - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:08] <exec> 08└─That's why when I travel to developing countries I stock up on stuff I know I'll use, like real Sudafed.
[01:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Sudafed - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:13] <exec> 08└─Wal-Mart and Brookshire's? You and I must be neighbors.
[01:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Did the law do any good? - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:27] <exec> 08└─What happens when you trip the limit? The police show up?
[01:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Did the law do any good? - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:39:28] <exec> 08└─In my case, the pharmacist just said the system said I couldn't have more sudafed. We worried for awhile that I'd made it onto some watchlist or something, but apparently not. I've bought sudafed twice since then and will probably switch back to it regularly soon, at least for awhile.
[01:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02What's wrong with nuclear? - 06US Regulators Issue First Nuclear Plant Operating License Since 1996 - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:40] <exec> 08└─What's wrong with nuclear anyway? I think it's great, and I would be happy to have one in my backyard if it means I get unlimited free residential electricity for the supposed risk of nuclear fireball. In reality, it's probably more likely that you'll get hit by a car when crossing the road.
[01:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02goblet of disaster - 06US Regulators Issue First Nuclear Plant Operating License Since 1996 - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:41] <exec> 08└─coal can be radioactif if the coal deposit has "impurities". however i dont understand why we people dont see a nuke for what it is ... a zipper to the stable reality that onve opened will continue to decay on its own and everything it touches will become unstable also. the best way so imagine is li...
[01:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:To do it right... - 06Uber Partners With NJ Town to Provide Free Rides to Cut Drunk Driving - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:56] <exec> 08└─Well it's not like it's hard to pay for an Uber. Once you have the app installed on your phone and have it set up with your credit card number, you don't have to do anything at all; it automatically charges your card when you complete a ride, which you called for with the app with just a few taps. H...
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[02:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:39] <exec> 08└─find themselves physically "drained" for no discernible reason. They usually discover accidentally that blood offers a remedy
[02:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] (Score:2) 02Re:My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:36:40] <exec> 08└─So, has anybody tested these vampires for anemia? Girls, in particular, with anemic tendencies would find those tendencies elevated at the onset of puberty, when their periods start.
[02:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03caffeine [249] (Score:2, Insightful) 02No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:42] <exec> 08└─I'd imagine anyone who was claiming to have this condition would try and distance themselves from super-fans. It would be difficult to show a connection or lack of when the subjects are likely to deny it.
[02:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:New, cool, different, exciting - 06The Seduction of the New - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:36:52] <exec> 08└─After all these years, it's still a little thrilling to set up a new installation, see how it works, then start tweaking it to my liking. Sometimes, it takes me three months or more to get it just right. Then, I download a new ISO and start all over.
[02:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] (Score:1, Redundant) 02system requirements - 06The Seduction of the New - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:58] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of an old, old tagline: The package said requires Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. And, seeing systemd and Wayland coming down the path, I'm upgrading from Linux to FreeBSD.
[02:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:00] <exec> 08└─Based on what I've seen from Redhat, I expect that Linux will someday force updates with no opt-out. That's just my personal opinion and probably not worth much. However, as a though experiment, how would the community react if forced updates were being seriously considered? Would it even be possibl...
[02:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:02] <exec> 08└─Linux users come in many types. Some are chasing the Shiny, others are getting work done. I still have Fedora on this Thinkpad, the idea was I'd bleed out on the edge to see what everybody else would eventually be getting and know how to wrangle it when the new stuff eventually worked down. But Cent...
[02:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:04] <exec> 08└─I hear you... I still have Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop because it works. Linux was better and more exciting five years ago...
[02:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02I don't get it - 06The Seduction of the New - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:05] <exec> 08└─...and the Mac user is glad it will only cost him $99.
[02:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Clev [2946] (Score:1) 02Re:Well done mr price - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:17] <exec> 08└─Considering it's already been hacked [wired.com], I wouldn't say it's a whole lot more secure than magstripe cards.
[02:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:37:23] <exec> 08└─One question I have is how much more care are the employees putting in for their customers. I know I stick with certain higher priced services because they have a good service reputation. I doubt I'm alone.
[02:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02S.I.B. - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 2346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:39] <exec> 08└─This has been known for decades. https://www.google.com [google.com] Got a nervous kind of feeling G...
[02:39:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Oh, if that link were actually true... - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:39:33] <exec> 08└─Toward the bottom of the page of the linked article.... Check out the rest in the Journal of Apocryphal Chemistry [heterodoxy.cc]. *A Journal that we sincerely wish existed, but most certainly does not. Yes, everyone, this "article" is a joke. This paper may be faked, but it's brilliant satire... an...
[02:40:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hey Robot - 06‘Psychic Robot’ Will Know What You Really Meant to Do - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:40:02] <exec> 08└─Don't call me Dave!
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[03:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Plus - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:38] <exec> 08└─Lonely nerds can hook up with hot nurses.
[03:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02bio labs - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:40] <exec> 08└─These are the makerspaces that are needed. CNC mills and 3D printers might be fun for a while, but synthetic biology is where the fun is. And you could use a modified 3D printer to print organs.
[03:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bio labs - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:41] <exec> 08└─What nurses can use, and use right away, are simple mechanical gizmos to help the patient sit up, move, take med, eat, etc. You see the things that nurses do for variety of patients, then you know this is no brainer. Physically, nursing is almost a blue-collar profession. Fancy-schamtzy synthetic b...
[03:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:52] <exec> 08└─That's a study for a more talented individual than John Edgar Browning. However he has done his part by creating vamp hype in the Washington Post. The grant money is yours for the taking; write your proposal fast.
[03:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:54] <exec> 08└─How would drinking your own blood increase the iron supply of your blood? Although I suppose drinking the blood of others might do the trick...
[03:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:56] <exec> 08└─I think it more likely that it is a psychological issue that arises independently from a fascination with vampires. Similar to the way cargo cults form. They draw a connection between two unrelated events and because of their particular frame of mind they run with it.
[03:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:57] <exec> 08└─The Washington Post ran a fluff piece with a touch of neuroscience, and I like it. Get these characters under the brain scanner and you'll probably find evidence of blood addiction. I smell the blood of a grant. This part supports your hypothesis: According to Browning, symptoms of vampirism start t...
[03:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:36:59] <exec> 08└─Some confirmation of your hypothesis, just a few paragraphs in: Members of this community have chosen to identify themselves as “vampires” in defiance of the negative images that the label evokes. Did she know anyone who fit that description? The woman smiled, and Browning had his answer — her...
[03:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:01] <exec> 08└─Look, we all know you're a vampire, hemocyanin. Don't try to cover up the fact that your brethren are real.
[03:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:03] <exec> 08└─This kind of academic study is interesting, if not particularly illuminating. I have no doubt that some of the "vampires" shun the vampire-related media, if only out of a hipster-like mentality. But there's no denying that the vampire obsession in pop culture helped ferment the individuals coming to...
[03:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02i call bullshit - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:04] <exec> 08└─This lack of awareness indicated to him that the vampires weren't super-fans who had simply taken their obsession with fantasy narratives to an extreme. Rather, they were normal people with routines no different from everyone else. These people live in the city that features largely in Anne Rice's v...
[03:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:i call bullshit - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:06] <exec> 08└─Maybe isolated individuals get into it spontaneously, biting lips and drawing blood becoming the equivalent of biting fingernails and other small habits. But once a few individuals group together, they become a beacon for the others. They slap a name on their philia. They urge each other on, and exp...
[03:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02this sucks - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:08] <exec> 08└─This was your article, huh? I won't deny that it is a slow news day. Apple is going to sell $76 billion of stuff over the Christmas quarter. Woohoo. Someone might become a donor for a number of reasons, from being a close friend of the vampire’s to doing it for financial compensation and sometimes...
[03:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Upgrade is not the end-game. - 06The Seduction of the New - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:18] <exec> 08└─In Windows land I think the automatic update is just there to make the reboot take longer when something important is going on. It's never secure and I never see new features so I have trouble picturing what else it could be doing.
[03:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:23] <exec> 08└─And there'll be a patch for that immediately, a perpetual holy war, and 10 distros vowing never to go along with it.
[03:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:24] <exec> 08└─Your logic is that if Windows does something, all distros will, too? Have you never met the neckbeards behind Debian?
[03:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:28] <exec> 08└─I upgrade as soon as it's available. Now on Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 with gnome-flashback. I hate Unity and Gnome 3, flashback gives me the good old 10.04 desktop.
[03:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:30] <exec> 08└─There are a bunch of other distors you could look at. However if you actually have users that are likely to revolt that might be your controlling force, and you may have to put up with systemd. Work must get done, after all. You've not said what UI your users favor. There is a Slackware based distro...
[03:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:32] <exec> 08└─We have used GNOME since at least 1.0 and I think before. I have one user that just has to be different and use KDE. :) The problem is I'm at a public library. Staff might could be eventually moved, add a second desktop option and one by one coax em over. The general public on the other hand is an e...
[03:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't get it - 06The Seduction of the New - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:33] <exec> 08└─OSX Leopard (10.5). It was a long time ago. Things changed. Now the OS is free, as are upgrades, and frankly the office software too, which works really well for many more things than you might suspect. I've written all my major papers in it (except the dissertation, which is in Mellel). I paid $20...
[03:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Wrong Question - 06The Seduction of the New - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:35] <exec> 08└─Or the wrong answer. I routinely accept all of the upgrades recommended by my Mint box without a second thought. That's because, over several years and OS versions, I can think of perhaps one upgrade that broke something. In my experience a suggested upgrade to a Linux program or component might act...
[03:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong Question - 06The Seduction of the New - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah. I went to 10. I kinda regret it now. Full screen apps are hit or miss if they will work. Most everything else is 'ok' (the 15 second startup times, and a 5MB per second bump on my wireless were a nice surprise). Figure it will be 6mo to a year before the kinks are worked out (as usual). With l...
[03:37:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02Two bungholes that won't be missed - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 1637 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:48] <exec> 08└─I have found it very amusing, ever since this was first announced, how angry it makes so many [conservatives/capitalists] that someone would dare to just voluntarily start paying all his employees an excellent wage, as if this is some sort of crime against capitalism or will result in widespread eco...
[03:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Two bungholes that won't be missed - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:51] <exec> 08└─Well, yeah, actually they do. They can't afford to use wide-audience targetting advertisements, but they use the things that actually represent the power larger groups have. They start petitions to companies. And companies often notice if there is a group of die hard fans for one of their discontinu...
[03:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Two bungholes that won't be missed - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:52] <exec> 08└─My favorite example is how Napster users basically begged the world to create iTunes. But, yeah, I'd say both our examples are minuscule to the efforts that companies like Coca Cola put into earning customers.
[03:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:37:56] <exec> 08└─Will the interest and growth continue at this pace
[03:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Hmmm - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:38:12] <exec> 08└─So, what, you're saying you're watching hentai while unaware of your depression?
[03:38:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02Re:Unconstitutional - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 366 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:38:51] <exec> 08└─many people in this country don't care about freedom at all Bingo. Oh wait, no. America is land of the free, home of the brave. Nowhere is it clearer than at the airport, where your population says "Fuck You" to some twats from Saudi Arabia and carrys on as they always have. Oh wait, that was the ot...
[03:39:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Popping zero pills a day - 06Scientists Say Popular Over-The-Counter Cold Medicine Doesn't Work - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:39:42] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, the good old "I've never had this problem so why should anyone else"?
[03:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Tax law is a weapon... - 06US IRS Bought Stingray, Stingray II, and Hailstorm IMSI-Catchers - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:35] <exec> 08└─I guess this is a way to use it very accurately.
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[04:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02you know you have been coding too long... - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:42] <exec> 08└─when you read "Nurses" as "Ncurses".
[04:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:00] <exec> 08└─OK, so I'm a vampyr of shrimp and crabs -- love that copper based oxygen transport mechanism. ;-)
[04:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02hold on a second! - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:05] <exec> 08└─why didn't he slay these fiends on sight?!
[04:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:hold on a second! - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:07] <exec> 08└─The researcher was ensnared by the vampire's glamour and forced to give blood without receiving sexual favors in return.
[04:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VortexCortex [4067] (Score:2) 02Zero-Point-Energy Vampirism? - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:09] <exec> 08└─They usually discover accidentally that blood offers a remedy: They might bite their lip, for instance, and realize that swallowing the metallic liquid between their teeth gives them an instant burst of energy.
[04:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:35] <exec> 08└─XFCE can be set up to look almost exactly like Gnome 2.x, and this is the path we took after we migrated our workstations from CentOS 6. Two bars, top and bottom; Applications and Places menu; taskbar at the bottom; default 4.12 theme that looks well with Adwaita and makes GTK2/GTK3 apps look simila...
[04:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:36] <exec> 08└─There is a Slackware based distro that installs user interface complete with versions for MATE, Xfce , Fluxbox, Openbox, KDE and Ratpoison. All over at http://www.Salix.org [salix.org] Saves you putting lipstick on Slackware all by yourself.
[04:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't get it - 06The Seduction of the New - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:37:40] <exec> 08└─I'm not fully up to speed on OSX, but wasn't the upgrade that you paid for akin to upgrading from XP to Windows 7?
[04:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS - 06The Seduction of the New - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:44] <exec> 08└─On one of my servers I'm still running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS, released on April 29, 2010. That is 5.5 years ago. I should upgrade it at some point, but I never have the time... and the worst of all is that the thing just keeps working, thus not forcing me to drop something else and rebuild the box!
[04:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Stingray? - 06US IRS Bought Stingray, Stingray II, and Hailstorm IMSI-Catchers - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:42] <exec> 08└─In other words, you're an idiot and proud to be an idiot. How about the Secret Service, they're not the FBI either, I suppose they aren't law enforcement either.
[04:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:so, PR bullshit still? - 06TechRadar Asks: "Has Microsoft Admitted Defeat in the Console Sales War?" - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:44:32] <exec> 08└─How EXACTLY is it a false dichotomy?
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[07:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Not just ravens. - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:04] <exec> 08└─This reminded me of a study a scientist did with rewarding monkeys. This monkey gets gypped after doing the same thing the other monkey did, but the other monkey gets a better treat. This monkey gets pissed off! Skip to 1 minute 45 seconds... watch that pissed off monkey. https://www.youtube.com
[07:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Intelligence and tools - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:05] <exec> 08└─If I remember correctly, ravens are also the only species other than humans that are known to both make and use tools to accomplish tasks. Using "tools" is not as impressive (seals opening clams with rocks), but making tools specifically to solve a problem (ravens bending wires to extract food) take...
[07:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Intelligence and tools - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:06] <exec> 08└─A more cynical approach would be to apply the same standard to humans: people who only know how to use tools (buying ready-made appliances) vs those who make tools
[07:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Poe's Law! - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:08] <exec> 08└─"Nevermore! Nevermore!" Wait, I may be slightly confused.
[07:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Do Tell. - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:18] <exec> 08└─Jennifer Government [wikipedia.org] involves malware that spreads via anti-virus updates.
[07:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:3, Funny) 02Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:21] <exec> 08└─I hope not! On my system I'm currently using Bitdefender Antivirus Plus, Kapersky Anti-Virus, McAfee AntiVirus Plus, Norton Security, Trend Micro Antivirus + Security, Avira Antivirus Pro, BullGuard Antivirus, eScan Anti-Virus, Zonealarm Antivirus + Firewall, and G Data AntiVirus. It only takes my s...
[07:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:23] <exec> 08└─All of them running in real time? You must have a fast computer if you can boot up in 1 1/2 hours!
[07:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not Just Antivirus programs... - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:25] <exec> 08└─but some of the anti-malware programs too... these can be anti-rootkit, anti-spyware, etc. some of these programs ship with "share x,y,z data" enabled by default! Or "join the x,y,z network" - look for both! the open source antivirus program ClamWin for Windows and clamav for Linux may not have the...
[07:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Antivirus or malware? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:26] <exec> 08└─Actions sound about the same. And of course, you only need one on a legacy malware operating system so...
[07:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:this sucks - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:57] <exec> 08└─Get a Catholic priest to give these vampires a hit of LSD and I bet they'll be "cured" of vampirism.
[07:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What We Do in the Shadows - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:03] <exec> 08└─There is a community like this in New Zealand! http://www.imdb.com [imdb.com]
[07:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Blood is blood - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:04] <exec> 08└─Blood is blood, human blood is no different. That is to say, human blood is not mystical life water, just cells and nutrients suspended in a fluid. I am actually quite fond of blood. Pig blood, duck blood, and the like are common in Chinese cuisine. I enjoy their taste. The only human blood I've had...
[07:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:28] <exec> 08└─Have you never met the neckbeards behind Debian?
[07:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:15:12] <exec> 08└─How about we let the employers and employees decide what's a fair wage for an hour of work?
[07:18:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:So what do we do... - 06Where Are the Jobs Really? - 1549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:18:50] <exec> 08└─I totally agree that austerity is bull and inequality is a problem-- a huge, ugly problem. Nevertheless, the current US lifestyle is not sustainable. Our society has extracted vast wealth from the world by recklessly degrading and depleting valuable resources, and by making the environment bear the...
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[08:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:04] <exec> 08└─Does it work for black people? https://m.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[08:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But blonds have more fun! - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:17] <exec> 08└─n/a
[08:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:3, Insightful) 02surprise? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:34] <exec> 08└─The only thing that would surprise me is if antivirus software was NOT tracking you. Runaway1956 mentions a work of fiction in his submission, so I'll match it with one of mine! I've just finished re-reading Heinlein's "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress". Germane to this discussion and that book: TANSTA...
[08:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS - 06The Seduction of the New - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:56] <exec> 08└─Awesome! I've still got an old Ubuntu 6.06 LTS that's running strong. Intranet only...
[08:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Odd premises - 06The Seduction of the New - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:57] <exec> 08└─The premise that Linux users rush into updates is rather odd. The only distributions for which this could be true are Arch and Gentoo. The rest, as far as I know, subscribe to the classic "major feature release, minor bugfix release" models. The premise that updates "put our entire systems at risk"...
[08:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Loss of google maps classic - 06The Seduction of the New - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:59] <exec> 08└─The few remaining users of years-old versions of firefox, noticed when google maps removed classic, google maps totally stopped working. Lately, I've been using bing maps, which actually works in years-old versions of firefox. If bing maps breaks, I'll either have to unpack my 7-league boots and sta...
[08:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:29] <exec> 08└─The only "fix" is to raise the minimum wage and that just makes it harder for younger people who may be able to live off of a lower paying job while working to pay for school.
[08:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mental illness is not rare - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:45] <exec> 08└─It is so common, you can probably find a correlation with almost anything. Personally, I think what is rare is the person that is entirely free of mental illness for their entire life. Face it - clinical depression alone manifests in roughly 80% of the population. Add very other form of mental illne...
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[09:13:25] <exec> 08└─Hmmm - at first I thought this was race baiting bullshit - but then I looked to see who posted it. Probably not. I guess I'm mistaken for black? Those damned public restrooms won't give me any water. They flush alright, and I can mostly get soap from the dispenser, but the water won't turn on to rin...
[09:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It trusts the user's mobile phone? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:26] <exec> 08└─Relying on the user's own hardware to scan the eye is a great idea. It's not secure, but it does solve one problem. If the eye scanner was trusted hardware built into the ATM, there would be an incentive to steal people's eyes. This way, a thief just needs to steal eye scan data. Much safer!
[09:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Fuck no - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:28] <exec> 08└─I'm not pairing my phone to some shitty Diebold ATM just to do an iris scan.
[09:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Not just ravens. - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:38] <exec> 08└─Very interesting link there. Sure reminds me of the workplace. My reaction to being done that way was identical to that of the monkey.
[09:13:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jasassin [3566] 02Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 384 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:56] <exec> 08└─I hope not! On my system I'm currently using Bitdefender Antivirus Plus, Kapersky Anti-Virus, McAfee AntiVirus Plus, Norton Security, Trend Micro Antivirus + Security, Avira Antivirus Pro, BullGuard Antivirus, eScan Anti-Virus, Zonealarm Antivirus + Firewall, and G Data AntiVirus. It only takes my s...
[09:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Good lord! - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, your antivirus company might have a list of web pages you've visited along with your sensitive personal documents!
[09:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Devuan - 06The Seduction of the New - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:19] <exec> 08└─Devuan was looking promising but time rolls on,
[09:15:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 50 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:51] <exec> 08└─Will the interest and growth continue at this pace
[09:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mojo chan [266] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:52] <exec> 08└─It doesn't really matter why they are doing well, the point is that they are not falling apart like previous articles claimed. So at the very least, increasing salaries doesn't seem to have hurt them.
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[10:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Informative) 02About time! - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 1054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:28] <exec> 08└─Among the many rights mentioned in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, is the concept of "due process". The right to face your accusers, the right to question your accusers, the right to present evidence against charges laid against you. Due process. Permitting secret kangaroo courts to pass...
[10:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Manufacturing your domestic enemies. - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:29] <exec> 08└─If racial profiling works, does it make sense to antagonizes your suspects and then trap them within your countries boarders. Wouldn't it be better to allow them to fly out but not fly in?
[10:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02[1] Content is behind scripts. - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:31] <exec> 08└─It's a secret list after all!
[10:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Data theft - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:42] <exec> 08└─This is the elephant in the room for biometric identification. Your particular retina pattern (or fignerprint, or whatever) may be unique, but the representation of that data can be stolen. Unlike a password: if it is stolen, you cannot change it.
[10:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Double-sided? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:44] <exec> 08└─The second concept, known as "Janus", is a double-sided ATM
[10:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Cheese! - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:00] <exec> 08└─ravens apparently love cheese :)
[10:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02"makerspaces?" - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:31] <exec> 08└─Is it just me, or is this a word just too hipster and too inconvenient to tolerate? I'm all for new words, particularly when they fill a particularly blatant hole in our language (meme comes to mind here). But makerspace is long and sounds...juvenile. When my grandfather had one of these in his base...
[10:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:2) 02Re:Generalizations are dumb - 06The Seduction of the New - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:15] <exec> 08└─I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition. I'm not really sure which version it is, but when the repositories stop working I'll upgrade to the latest LTS. That being said, whenever it says I have updates (typically security, but I had added some repositories so II do get fresh application updates at tim...
[10:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Well done mr price - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:02] <exec> 08└─The people who first discovered most of the EMV compromises are in the office just across the hall from me. In spite of that, it is far more secure than magnetic stripe. The equipment required to copy a magstripe is cheap and ubiquitous. Most of the EMV attacks rely on either MITM attacks on the pay...
[10:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CEO Probably Read This Article Too - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:22] <exec> 08└─Apparently the CEO came close to hitting the wall and had to reshuffle finances to survive
[10:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:TSA insanity - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:32] <exec> 08└─Germanwings Flight 9525
[10:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gOnZo [5184] (Score:1) 02limits to prognostications.... - 06‘Psychic Robot’ Will Know What You Really Meant to Do - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:12] <exec> 08└─How about the the car that swerves to avoid the moose crossing the road... is the car going to 'correct' your actions then? What if the moose is a mother and stroller?
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[11:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:3, Insightful) 02$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:09] <exec> 08└─A few years ago, I had some success when I went to bars during Happy Hour getting a Blue Moon for $2 when they had their "$2 Domestics" happy hour. This was when Blue Moon was just beginning to get some traction (maybe 2009?) Invariably, the bartender would say "No, it's a Belgian import" and I woul...
[11:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:10] <exec> 08└─So MillerCoors follows letter of the law, while absolutely destroying the spirit. In so doing, they destroy a whole industry.
[11:14:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02About time! - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 1054 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:20] <exec> 08└─Among the many rights mentioned in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, is the concept of "due process". The right to face your accusers, the right to question your accusers, the right to present evidence against charges laid against you. Due process. Permitting secret kangaroo courts to pass...
[11:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02" could be shortened to just 10 seconds" - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:37] <exec> 08└─Ya right. We all know how technology doesn't work at the right time. A pin entry is going to be far faster than a cell phone eye scan. And 10 seconds? WOW so much time saved!
[11:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Maybe I'm Just An Old Fart... - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:38] <exec> 08└─But I don't really see the value in using your phone for an iris scan. I already use two-factor authentication (my card and my PIN) to use an ATM. I suppose it could be useful to use my phone as my ATM card, but I'd still want to have a PIN which exists only in my brain. It can't be stolen and, unli...
[11:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Browser message when trying to visit article... - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:09] <exec> 08└─No, really dangerous. The site tries to discourage usage of virus scanners, which, obviously, is deeply problematic.
[11:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:bio labs - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:28] <exec> 08└─then you know this is no brainer
[11:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't get it - 06The Seduction of the New - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:44] <exec> 08└─When was this?
[11:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS - 06The Seduction of the New - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:16:50] <exec> 08└─I've also got such an old Ubuntu on my laptop. The reason I never upgraded was exactly the UI changes in later versions of Ubuntu. I didn't hear of a single person who liked it, so I decided to just stick with the old version as long as possible. I guess I now should switch to a Mate based distribut...
[11:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Because it's easier most of the time - 06The Seduction of the New - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:16:53] <exec> 08└─I update when I have the time. It's not a fetish of mine, but our developers often require the newest ruby/python/groovy version for different reasons, and the easiest way to get them is usually to run with the newest release of Fedora. Also it can be really painful to upgrade when the distribution...
[11:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA insanity - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:18:36] <exec> 08└─Actually, when you consider that Osama Bin Laden's stated goal for 9/11 was to whip the US up into a state of frenzied military spending that would ultimate ruin it... I'd say he won. He's laughing at you from his grave right now* *Assuming he's actually dead, of course, what with the body being con...
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[12:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:54] <exec> 08└─How does complaining about deceptive business tactics make him a douchebag? Maybe you should start drinking craft beer because you seem to be suffering from the ill effects of drinking too many shitty american adjunct lagers.
[12:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:55] <exec> 08└─Complaining does not make him a douche-bag; in fact, I think he has a good case. MillerCoors when out of their way to make everyone believe Blue Moon is a "craft" beer. The douche-bag part comes from this gem: 'Evan Parent, who describes himself as a "beer aficionado," began buying Blue Moon beer in...
[12:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:56] <exec> 08└─Why shouldn't people vote with their dollar, even if they like something? That's how boycotts work.
[12:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:13:58] <exec> 08└─The first time I had one was back in college (late 90s) and one of my friends said that it was made by Coors. My response was "So? They finally made a reasonable beer." and kept on drinking it. If someone asks what kind of beer I want in payment (helping a buddy move, fixing a buddy's car, etc) I us...
[12:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:00] <exec> 08└─My prediction: Off the back of this, all big breweries will produce "craft" brands and destroy the meaning of the term completely. Within months, beer snobs will see what's going on and come up with a new term that means what craft was supposed to mean before it got usurped. Legislation will follow,...
[12:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:02] <exec> 08└─Hyperbole much? Only a few self described "beer aficionados" like Evan Parent and yourself will stop drinking these fake micro brews. And you know what, no one cares one bit. Keep your phony sophistication in your little circle jerk. The rest of us who actually enjoy drinking good beer, will continu...
[12:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:04] <exec> 08└─If it's large enough to advertise on TV, it's probably not a "craft beer" in any sense that most craft beer fans would recognize. I've NEVER thought Blue Moon was a craft beer. Nor do I consider Sam Adams one (even though their ads have always claimed how "small" they were.)
[12:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:06] <exec> 08└─It's true. The only people I have met that considered Blue Moon "craft" was a bartender at a hole-in-the-wall dive bar deep in a Levittown-like suburbia. They had 4 beers to choose from (Bud, Coors Light, MGD and Miller Lite) plus their "craft" beer in bottles, Blue Moon. I only remember this bar so...
[12:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:07] <exec> 08└─At least Sam Adams understands and remembers, and is true to, and helpful to their roots --- back when there was a hops shortage, they actually sold their excess, at cost, to craft brewers so that they could stay in business: http://appellationbeer.com
[12:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Fictitious Business Name = "Doing Business As" - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:09] <exec> 08└─If you operate a business in California as a Sole Proprietorship or a Partnership, and you don't use your own legal name for the business, you pay for a classified newspaper ad in their Fictitious Business Name Statements section. After running the ad once per week for four weeks, the "Newspaper of...
[12:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:About time! - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:14:16] <exec> 08└─Freedom of movement: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[12:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02tech challenged? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:35] <exec> 08└─What about those who don't have a cell phone? Or just a super-cheapie 'dumb' phone w/o a camera? And yeah, as has been pointed out, who the hell would trust biometric data security on a mobile!?
[12:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:surprise? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:10] <exec> 08└─Runaway1956 is a loud mouth closet queer.
[12:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:Good lord! - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:12] <exec> 08└─If so already, most likely on page X of an Y pages sized EULA (with X = Y, for sufficient large values of X and Y) that nobody reads anyway. And even if they do not tell: the non-validity of click-through agreements works both ways... doesn't it? :-)
[12:15:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Covalent [43] 02"makerspaces?" - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 559 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:26] <exec> 08└─Is it just me, or is this a word just too hipster and too inconvenient to tolerate? I'm all for new words, particularly when they fill a particularly blatant hole in our language (meme comes to mind here). But makerspace is long and sounds...juvenile. When my grandfather had one of these in his base...
[12:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"makerspaces?" - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:27] <exec> 08└─You don't understand. Makers are a movement and they need spaces, or something.
[12:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:"makerspaces?" - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:29] <exec> 08└─It certainly is a trendy hipster word. And it does bother me a bit too. But I have accepted it after visiting a few makerspaces. Shops were traditionally personal or professional. There needed to be a way for a shop to identify as amateur, open to the public, and friendly to newbies. In a makerspace...
[12:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:"makerspaces?" - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:15:31] <exec> 08└─I can see this - shops can be intimidating I suppose. But that doesn't change the puerile nature of this word. And don't get me started on Maker Fair (or worse still, Maker Faire). I get it: Making new stuff is a cool thing that more people can do now. But call your new hobby something that doesn't...
[12:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Psychological not biological. - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:16:02] <exec> 08└─At the end of this horrible article they do indeed ask an actual doctor instead of consulting the "real vampires". The "cure" offered by drinking blood is psychological and that carries a strong placebo effect. The end. The article should have carried with that instead of the ramblings by someone wi...
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[12:16:31] <exec> 08└─That's unlikely. Unlike Windows, you have some choices with your linux distribution. Last year switched a company over from primarily RH to SLES because the SLES support was included with their existing licensing. No reason to pay additional contracts for RH. The switch was pretty painless and, asid...
[12:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02It's true - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:46] <exec> 08└─Late last year, [associate professor] Turhan Canli published a paper [...] asserting that depression should be thought of as an infectious disease.
[12:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Valid problem, but also a bit of hyperventilat - 06Hospital Messed Up Medications in Half of Surgeries — How Common is it? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:03] <exec> 08└─This terrifies the anesthesiologists.
[12:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Perspective - 06Hospital Messed Up Medications in Half of Surgeries — How Common is it? - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:18:16] <exec> 08└─Hey if #1 doesn't get you there's a good chance #2 will. So yeah, you could argue that "cancer is on the rise". But why? Ahh. People used to die younger of heart disease.
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[13:13:04] <exec> 08└─There could be a lot of fun sliding down the slope and more fun at the bottom.
[13:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirtballs? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:06] <exec> 08└─For me the message to take away was "if you are a woman in a society where women have no rights and no independence, then the best you can hope for (in terms of nutrition at least) is to bag a rich husband." Well, no great surprises there, but hardly a great result for womankind. In other words if t...
[13:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:07] <exec> 08└─The only problem with polygamy is that it overwhelmingly favours the male, for obvious biological reasons. Essentially, the loony tunes that think polygamy is ok, are looking to become pimps. The only way equality and propagate is if all parties have equal opportunities and responsibilities. It is w...
[13:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:09] <exec> 08└─Old white men? http://blackpeopleagainstabortion.com [blackpeopleagainstabortion.com] http://spectator.org [spectator.org] http://www.blackgenocide.org [blackgenocide.org]
[13:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:11] <exec> 08└─touche! But a look at the composition of congress...
[13:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:13] <exec> 08└─Irrelevant. Nobody in congress is advocating polygamy, and likely never will.
[13:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:14] <exec> 08└─Fair enough - congress consists mostly of old white men. And, those old white men are moving to defund the organization which ends the lives of unborn black babies for pay. How unfortunate that PP has run at the mouth, and allowed themselves to be captured on video. Most recently, one of their numbe...
[13:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:16] <exec> 08└─Polygny is a term used to refer to marriage systems where males can have more than one wife, while polygamy refers to the actual practice of it.
[13:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:18] <exec> 08└─to be honest, I can't even understand what polygny refers to. polygamy means that one man is married to more than one woman. polygny means what, exactly? that he has the option to do it? because once he does it, it's polygamy. in order to study polygny, by this definition, you would have to look at...
[13:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:19] <exec> 08└─Polygamy: The practice of multiple spouse marriage. This is gender agnostic. Polygyny: The practice of a man having multiple wives. Polyandry: The practice of a woman having multiple husbands. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[13:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdanel [3363] (Score:2) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:21] <exec> 08└─The last I heard polygyny = is one man marrying multiple women, polyandry = one woman marrying multiple men, and polygamy = an umbrella term for polygyny and polyandry. Did some academician unilaterally decide to change established definitions again?
[13:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Muslims - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:23] <exec> 08└─For whatever reasons, many Muslim males fight wars to this day. And many die. And many take on related widows (sister-in-law, cousins, etc.) as wives - it's a financial/business arrangement.
[13:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02...if women can't own or work! - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:25] <exec> 08└─Fucking slavery! Disgusting barbarians...
[13:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:...if women can't own or work! - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:26] <exec> 08└─Now now now - tolerance, remember? And, I notice that you don't even ask whether the women are happy with their societal arrangements. Oh - pardon me. You're getting your exercise this morning by jumping to conclusions? Got it.
[13:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02four assumptions - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1927 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:28] <exec> 08└─Four interesting assumptions One is the assumption of cause and effect. Another is assumption that its a simple linear model. Perhaps monogamy dominates at extreme poverty and at better than 3rd world wealth, and the alternatives naturally optimize in the middle where you have more than a broken spe...
[13:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Infiniteyl variable mileage - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:30] <exec> 08└─Seems to me this study makes the same mistakes that pervade "social studies". Humans are social creatures, but they are wildy unique and independent social creatures. Kind of like trying to observe a kaleidoscope and draw conclusions about color/pattern distribution. Every human relationship is uniq...
[13:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:36] <exec> 08└─Not buying a beer just because it is made by Miller and not a true "craft" beer makes me think Evan Parent is less "beer aficionado" and more "beer douche-bag". I do not generally order those kind of beers (I am an IPA fan) but I would not turn one down if someone gave me one.
[13:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:38] <exec> 08└─In Europe Blue Moon is a sublime beer. Really tops. What they call Blue Moon here in America is not the same. Same thing with Warsteiner. Phenomenal beer in Germany, here, rather meh. I do not know why that is. Pasteurization?
[13:13:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 906 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:39] <exec> 08└─My prediction: Off the back of this, all big breweries will produce "craft" brands and destroy the meaning of the term completely. Within months, beer snobs will see what's going on and come up with a new term that means what craft was supposed to mean before it got usurped. Legislation will follow,...
[13:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:41] <exec> 08└─Hmm, "albino guatamalen maidens..." Sorry, drifted there for a moment. The replacement word you're looking for is "artisanal." The hipsters in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, have made that a thing. You can even buy 'artisanal' paper and pickles now. "Bespoke" is probably a close second, but that one sticks...
[13:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:43] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Growing up, everyone I knew argued over the best beer, all of them pilseners. Then, I started traveling, and got to sample all kinds of things that family and friends never exposed me to. Compared to almost any ale, pilseners are just so much piss water. The only ale that I was aware of, in...
[13:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:46] <exec> 08└─Right. They're definitely "big brewing done right." Just not a "craft" brewery by any reasonable definition anymore.
[13:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aurean [4924] (Score:1) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:48] <exec> 08└─Sam Adams does some more 'artistic' small-batch brews, and these are true craft beers. The bulk of what they sell isn't, though. Not bad, mind - just not craft.
[13:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:49] <exec> 08└─I've never been bothered by Blue Moon being passed off as a craft brew. Hey, the same two conglomerates own Becks, Pilsner Urquell, St Pauli Girl, Labatts, etc. I'm not boycotting any of these labels but I'll look for other choices first.
[13:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:51] <exec> 08└─Evan Parent, who describes himself as a "beer aficionado," began buying Blue Moon beer in 2011, but stopped in about mid-2012 when he discovered it is made by MillerCoors LLC
[13:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03yarp [2665] (Score:1) 02Re:Double-sided? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:14] <exec> 08└─Google "Janus" and you'll see the Roman god usually had two faces, back to back - like the ATM.
[13:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not Just Antivirus programs... - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:49] <exec> 08└─Maybe but unlikely? I want some of that cool aid. Clam's FP rate is absurd.
[13:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:surprise? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:14:53] <exec> 08└─Tell us how you really feel.
[13:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03naubol [1918] (Score:2) 02Re:Zero-Point-Energy Vampirism? - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:15:40] <exec> 08└─To offer a counterpoint, it might not be about the sum total of energy in the body but instead such acts may increase circulation or may allow the blood to more easily coat the alimentary tract.
[13:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02i know this isn't 4chan, but… - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:44] <exec> 08└─http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Img/Photos/Kitesurfing/4065890.jpg [seabreeze.com.au]
[13:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:16:09] <exec> 08└─That's why I love FOSS. You can always fork the system. Kind of like what we did here with SN.
[13:20:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:Efficiency - 06Where Are the Jobs Really? - 64 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:20:20] <exec> 08└─These days, if you want a STEM economy, you have to be educated.
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[14:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Still like the gates foundation one - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:00] <exec> 08└─You know the mosquito murdering laser. [wikipedia.org] Frankly, I want one.
[14:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Evolution? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:01] <exec> 08└─If you can kill off the mosquitos that bite humans, how long does it take until no mosquitos bite humans? They've already learned that citronella is a good marker of a food supply in a lot of places. Also, can we avoid linking to researchgate in summaries? They're in the same spammy business as Link...
[14:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Tobasco® secret ingredient? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:03] <exec> 08└─Why not enjoy a meal at the same time! [youtube.com]
[14:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:23] <exec> 08└─There you go, spoiling a solid slam on social sciences with a quick search and list of definitions. It's almost as if different disciplines employ different terms and jargon to codify their areas of study. The nerve of them!
[14:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:25] <exec> 08└─It's quite possible the journalist got it wrong. Mixing up jargon is an easy mistake for a layman to make. It's also possible the source the journalist talked to misspoke. Human beings do that from time to time. It's further possible that the source is a young turk in the discipline, trying to re-de...
[14:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02not harmful in context - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:32] <exec> 08└─Not harmful to cling to the wealthier males vs the guys who can only afford one wife in a society that doesn't let women have property... paint me surprised.
[14:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Husbands die early - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:33] <exec> 08└─Husbands don't fare well, thank you for asking! But on to the point, is there any reason why UN declared polygamous marriages bad for women and children WITHOUT actually studying them in a culture where they are common? I mean, beside the fact that UN is mostly funded by USA and USA is basically a c...
[14:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They forgot about economics - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─What a bad study. In reality only the richer men in that sort of societies can afford to have multiple wives. It sounds like those rich men continue to marry until their earning capacity is tapped. The first wives and their children get to take advantage of a time when the husband hasn't reached his...
[14:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot about economics - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:37] <exec> 08└─It's because the two wives are constant rivals and therefore an unending source for family quarrels. 3+ wives apparently stick together better (against the husband?)
[14:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot about economics - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:39] <exec> 08└─Problem with "nutritionally" based criterion is that at certain point that extra nutrition does more harm than good. So maybe the first and only wife would end up obese and die at 45. Although the man would probably get a second wife at that point. The Arab saying seems spot on, thank you for that :...
[14:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Company BBQ... - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:40] <exec> 08└─The company BBQ invitation said "bring your wives and girlfriends", so I did.
[14:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:13:51] <exec> 08└─To be fair, I don't mind Blue Moon as a beer, it's ... okayish. But after I found out it was a macro, I also stopped buying it, not because I didn't like it, but because it's clearly deceptive and I don't like to support shitty money grabs.
[14:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:04] <exec> 08└─Shock Top isn't either, I remember when it first hit the market around here about 5 years back and the label clearly listed "Michelob" as the brewer. They spun it off into a sub company "Shock Top Brewing Co." in order to cash in on the craft brew craze. It's good stuff with several varieties now bu...
[14:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 1101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:07] <exec> 08└─Exactly. This sure sounds like it is about some poor little snowflake who thought he was drinking a "special" beer that he clearly enjoyed, then got his feelings hurt when he found out he was drinking a Coors product. Boo-hoo. Take your clever I like bacon shirt and your beard and get off my lawn! B...
[14:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:09] <exec> 08└─I feel like you are attacking the guy in the summary because you skipped the bottom part. The relevant part I think is this: according to Parent who says the company charges "up to 50 percent more for Blue moon"
[14:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Big companies legitimately make small-batch items - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:11] <exec> 08└─There are big companies in the food industry (and elsewhere!) that make their product(s) in a small-batch process; the only difference is that they make a lot of small batches. There are also lots of instances where a company, big or small, makes a specialty top-line product (maybe selecting some of...
[14:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:About time! - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:21] <exec> 08└─Doesn't say airplane... You can still move with your feet or even swim (if it's across the pond)
[14:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Manufacturing your domestic enemies. - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:23] <exec> 08└─Shhh... how you're talking sense... don't let them hear you
[14:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02slowly they rise - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:41] <exec> 08└─it's simple - just like the SS#, the "smart phone" was voluntary. Soon it [smart phone use], or a more advanced human tracking system will be mandatory. They really don't give a shit about your privacy. Whether it's a fingerprint or an eye scan, the data has to be stored somewhere, and ultimately th...
[14:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ravens still talking trash about Deflategate? - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:56] <exec> 08└─They should give it a rest. They lost last year and they're 1-6 this year.
[14:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Seahawks know when they've been cheated too - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:57] <exec> 08└─"Forward progress" my ass, Marshawn got the ball in the end zone. You can't ever assume his forward progress has been stopped.
[14:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:14] <exec> 08└─I run the Windows port of systemd so they all start up in parallel.
[14:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03SDRefugee [4477] (Score:1) 02Re:Not Just Antivirus programs... - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:17] <exec> 08└─I gave up using Windows in 2010, when I retired after a nearly 25 year career of cleaning up after Windows (and its users). The ONLY Linux I currently run with any kind of AV is my mail server, with ClamAV. After reading some of the traffic analysis done on Windows 10, I feel I REALLY dodged a bulle...
[14:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03TechieRefugee [5665] (Score:1) 02Comodo isn't listed - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:25] <exec> 08└─Surprising that Comodo hasn't been listed, as it's something I've been recommending for all of my Windows user family. I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing. ...ah hell, let's be honest; Comodo is probably doing it as well.
[14:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:bio labs - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:15:37] <exec> 08└─We ran out of stents in the OR, but fortunately one of the nurses was handy with 3D printing...
[14:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Generalizations are dumb - 06The Seduction of the New - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:27] <exec> 08└─I was similar; I used to care a lot more about being on the cutting edge. Not any more. But then again, the way I see it, things just aren't moving as fast as they were 15 years ago. Back in 2000, things were moving rapidly in Linux-land. Now it seems like a lot of stuff is stagnating. I guess every...
[14:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Generalizations are dumb - 06The Seduction of the New - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:16:30] <exec> 08└─Well to me there's a huge difference between the security updates and updating the OS release. The regular Mint updates you do on-the-fly are just for security or bugs, not for major version changes or anything like that. Everyone should stay up-to-date on that stuff. It's when you start making majo...
[14:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too early to tell - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:42] <exec> 08└─A software company's financials depend on the products and services it built in the past, and the momentum from sales and business deals, usually much more than six months in the past. Let's see how they're doing two years from now, we'll read the followup.
[14:21:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:''recession'' - 06Where Are the Jobs Really? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:21:48] <exec> 08└─...then we could mention the additional 30-plus percent who are being paid a poverty wage and who don't have disposable income that they could be spending into the economy, getting the Multiplier Effect going.
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[15:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Evolution? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:04] <exec> 08└─"Learning" a behavior is harder for evolution to manage than chemical resistance.
[15:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score:2) 02Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:07] <exec> 08└─We have superbugs because people take too many antibiotics for little to no reason. What about the mosquitoes that can survive this drug, then mate with other survivors? Will we create a super mosquito carrying a super malaria?
[15:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:08] <exec> 08└─So no treatment unless it's 100% effective?
[15:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02"Them mosquitoes"? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:10] <exec> 08└─Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes
[15:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Editing - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:12] <exec> 08└─The editor's done a good job cleaning up the study link bit.
[15:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:28] <exec> 08└─No, it really doesn't. For every one man that gets 3 wives, there's likely 2 that can't find one. Polygamy heavily favors women as they don't have to be restricted to choosing an unmarried mate. Men get screwed though as now there's a tin of extra competition from better off men.
[15:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:33] <exec> 08└─I quote from the summary: Polygny is a term used to refer to marriage systems where males can have more than one wife, while polygamy refers to the actual practice of it. My understanding of this paragraph is that it provides definitions for polygny and polygamy. And I see them as being very differe...
[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─Which makes me wonder: Is there a version where there is more than one of each gender (for example, two men and two women all married together)?
[15:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Husbands die early - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:45] <exec> 08└─In countries where that's legal there isn't necessarily any rule requiring the husband to be able to support the family. Also it's easier to claim that it hurts women than the real issue. That being that it's devastating to the male population and only works when you need to repopulate after a major...
[15:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:3, Interesting) 02words that stick in your craw - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:08] <exec> 08└─I really hope people aren't using "bespoke" as a synonym for "artisanal". At least when you're talking about clothing, "bespoke" means tailored specifically for a particular person; it's what's going on when you see someone getting fitted for a custom suit in the movies etc. If we were to translate...
[15:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:words that stick in your craw - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:09] <exec> 08└─Yes, so based on your commentary, expect these words to mean something else to a brewer because they already mean the wrong thing to other people. These terms are ripe for profitable harvest and exploitation as being presented as new marketing words to mean "for the discriminating ignorant man who c...
[15:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03OwMyBrain [5044] (Score:1) 02Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:24] <exec> 08└─Parent who says the company charges "up to 50 percent more for Blue moon" based on its bogus craft-beer status.
[15:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02We need a social-conscious barcode app - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:25] <exec> 08└─There needs to be an app which allows one to scan a product's barcode and then see: - which conglomerate owns the company which made it - where the product was made - whether it was made w/ union labour or no - where the materials were sourced and whether or no this was done in an envir...
[15:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A California company with a fake name makes it - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:27] <exec> 08└─And sends info on you to Google so you are put on their List for deportation to the re-education camps.
[15:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03seeprime [5580] (Score:2) 02Truth in advertising - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:29] <exec> 08└─Truth in advertising went the way of the dodo years ago. I wish the US Congress and regulatory agencies would grow a pair and work to keep businesses honest so judges wouldn't have to push their opinion into common law. It may already be too late.
[15:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Re:Data theft - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:14:53] <exec> 08└─This is the elephant in the room for biometric identification. Your particular retina pattern (or fignerprint, or whatever) may be unique, but the representation of that data can be stolen. Unlike a password: if it is stolen, you cannot change it
[15:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seahawks know when they've been cheated too - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:17] <exec> 08└─Um, Marshawn's forward progress was stopped by Pete Carroll and his OC.
[15:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plus - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:53] <exec> 08└─Ncurses? bleh:P
[15:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:Eh? - 06The Seduction of the New - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:14] <exec> 08└─I agree with XFCE. When Ubuntu jumped the shark and went to Unity, my migration path was Ubuntu 10.04 + Gnome 2 --> Ubuntu 12.04 + XFCE as I didn't like either Unity or Gnome 3. I did lose the feeling of 'this is awesome,' but I get that back by running fluxbox now and again. As for when 12.04 suppo...
[15:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:57] <exec> 08└─They want a continually increasing rate of growth, anything else is considered a failure.
[15:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:17:59] <exec> 08└─If this benefit is due to the Press, then a) the press will eventually fade, and the benefit along with it b) and even the bump will not be reproducible by other companies. because the press won't report on the 10,000th company that does this. It won't be news anymore. If its due to increased produc...
[15:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 1149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:18:08] <exec> 08└─Lets see here. Minimum wage? 7.25 How many hours will you be given? Probably around 25. 25*7.25 = 181.25 a week. The is 725 a month (Assuming 4 weeks in a month, will be slightly more). I am not even going to deduct taxes or anything lets see if we can work with 725. Studio apartment? in the cheapes...
[15:19:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Unconstitutional - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 443 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:06] <exec> 08└─How about recognizing that what the TSA does (molesting and searching people under government authority to make sure they're not terrorists simply because they want to get on a plane) is unconstitutional and ordering it to cease its activities? That might require a good enough court case, but it's n...
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[16:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:2) 02List of MEPs and their votes? - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:03] <exec> 08└─Yes, this is bad news. I've seen about a dozen articles now. Most seem to be aware of what happened and what is being lost, but there has not been an accounting for how each MEP voted. Also, from what I gather, nearly all of them blew off the debate in the morning.
[16:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02whodunnit - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:04] <exec> 08└─Somebody linked the two independent issues, net neutrality and the roaming charges abuse. In this way, if the MEPs had voted against the proposal, they would have been slagged off in the popular press: "your MEP eurocrats are against you having cheaper internet on vacation". Hopefully the net neutra...
[16:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Still like the gates foundation one - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:14] <exec> 08└─I saw this in Make magazine a couple years ago. Big ditto on that one.
[16:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 1432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:21] <exec> 08└─scenario 1: - deploy drug - some lives are saved. - Oh no, we created a mosquito+malaria combo that is immune to that particular drug - back to where we before. scenario 2: - don't deploy drug - shit continues now as it did before. Scenario 1 is clearly better, because at least you saved some lives...
[16:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:22] <exec> 08└─At some point that doesn't scale or make sense. If you keep shooting people then you won't end up with people who become bullet resistant. You end up with people who hide!
[16:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Them mosquitoes"? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:24] <exec> 08└─Should've been "them skeeters" for correct redneck English. I hate having to be the grammar Nazi...
[16:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:"Them mosquitoes"? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:26] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't every day be? Or, sigh, at least every Wednesday? Thursday can be Talk Like a Yinzer [wikipedia.org] Day, Friday can be Talk Like a Canuck [urbandictionary.com] Day, Saturday can be Talk Like a Surfer Dude Day, Sunday can be Talk Like a Baptist Preacher Day, Monday can be Talk Like a Gangs...
[16:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Not just for humans - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:27] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure how expensive Ivermectin is, but the nature of this deployment scheme would allow to use any large bodied mammal to be a transmitter (looks like Ivermectin's main concern is neurotoxicity, hence the large mammal comment - I have no qualifications for this statement beyond reading wikipe...
[16:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirtballs? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:40] <exec> 08└─but in most polygamy arrangements it seems the dirtballs are collecting virgin girls to add to their collection
[16:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:47] <exec> 08└─No, it really doesn't. For every one man that gets 3 wives, there's likely 2 that can't find one.
[16:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:49] <exec> 08└─That tends not to last very long. Things that kill men off in that kind of quantity tend to eventually get to the women as well. War and famine being a couple examples. For a short period of time you can repopulate or make up the difference, but it's a band-aid fix at best if you haven't figured out...
[16:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:50] <exec> 08└─I have a bit of experience here... For those that haven't read my journal entry, my wife and I transitioned our relationship to a poly style. I think that the story finds that poly families are no worse off is because of the extra support that having extra adults around the house can add. One can lo...
[16:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:52] <exec> 08└─You're last paragraph is why the practice of multiple marriages is illegal. It's not illegal because it's necessarily bad for children to have more than 2 parents in the household. It's illegal because it fucks anybody that can't find a partner. Having 1 husband and multiple wives or 1 wife and mult...
[16:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:54] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure it's not illegal because of 'fairness' issues. It's illegal because crazy right-wing religious groups marry 12 year old girls who don't have any choice in the matter.
[16:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:56] <exec> 08└─And when a society has a surplus of frustrated young men who can't form meaningful attachments and stable family lives things tend to get ugly for the entire society.
[16:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:57] <exec> 08└─The only problem with polygamy is that it overwhelmingly favours the male, for obvious biological reasons.
[16:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:02] <exec> 08└─I have read the term "polyamory" for that. It's not recognized legally anywhere that I know of, but I've seen articles about people living that way.
[16:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:05] <exec> 08└─Probably because those definitions are definitely not the same as the ones I learned in college. Polygamy is when a man has multiple wives. Palygyny is when a woman has multiple husbands and polyandry wasn't even a term that came up. This is probably a case of the social sciences re-inventing terms...
[16:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Infiniteyl variable mileage - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:11] <exec> 08└─Seems to me this study makes the same mistakes that pervade "social studies". Humans are social creatures, but they are wildy unique and independent social creatures. Kind of like trying to observe a kaleidoscope and draw conclusions about color/pattern distribution.
[16:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Husbands die early - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:15] <exec> 08└─When that reality show Big Love came out, I pondered what the reality of that kind of family life would be. It seems like a bad deal for the husband. When women live together their cycles synchronize. That means they PMS together, and become amorous at the same time. You as the husband lose both way...
[16:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02It's obvious who loses in this arrangement - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:20] <exec> 08└─The loser in these kinds of arrangements are the men who end up single: in many societies with polygyny, polyandry (1 woman, many men) is not allowed, nor is prostitution legal. China is running into a similar problem for a different reason, namely that the one-child policy in a patriarchal society...
[16:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:It's obvious who loses in this arrangement - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:22] <exec> 08└─China is running into a similar problem for a different reason, namely that the one-child policy in a patriarchal society along with infanticide has meant that there are about 20-30 million Chinese men that will never get married and quite possibly never get laid.
[16:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:35] <exec> 08└─And using the logic I've just learnt - you must be a douche-bag. As am I. And all those presumably lesbian hippy commies who chose to buy food from the local farmers market rather than the $MEGAMARKET are all douchbags too. As are the local farmers for supporting them. Damn, I like this logic, I can...
[16:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:36] <exec> 08└─> describes himself as a "beer aficionado," ... > He stopped buying it because he is a "beer aficionado" Are you a fucking retard? You are conflating "descibing yourself as something" and "stopping [doing something] because of something". I describe myself as Anonymous Coward. That doesn't mean I do...
[16:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:words that stick in your craw - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:45] <exec> 08└─It's not a synonym, but it is a trend following closely on the heels of "artisanal." "Bespoke" can mean "tailored for an individual," but it can also be construed as, "custom." You could create a "bespoke" brew for Halloween (meaning, "pumpkin flavored"). I've seen things like that in Brooklyn, and...
[16:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:48] <exec> 08└─Either you don't know beer or you haven't been looking hard enough. There's a ton of legitimate microbrews out there to be had, it's just that they're mostly regional. If you're buying it at a bar that doesn't brew or the grocery store, that's a sign that you should have some skepticism about the pr...
[16:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:50] <exec> 08└─So MillerCoors follows letter of the law, while absolutely destroying the spirit. I seem to recall that it says who it's brewed by right on the bottle. Maybe this has changed recently? I really think that's following the letter and spirit of the law (if my recollection is correct).
[16:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:52] <exec> 08└─Hmm, bit of Google Image research: I think they have either changed recently or it depends on the market. Some of the labels do indicate Coors' involvement (primarily European versions) though I distinctly remember similar labeling in WA a few years ago. Some of the other labels in there do s...
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:04] <exec> 08└─I didn't skip the bottom part; it's just not relevant. If craft brewing costs more and also produces a better beer (one that tastes better) and you think the better taste is worth the money, by all means buy it. If craft brewing costs more and fails to produce a better beer, why buy it? Pity? Suppos...
[16:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:05] <exec> 08└─So you are saying you would buy an amazing phone if it was manufactured by the NSA? What if you just discovered that your amazing phone made by ACME was actually made by the NSA? Sorry, but branding does matter.
[16:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:07] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty bad analogy. I would avoid an NSA phone because I would expect it to have something harmful to me (and very hard to detect) on the inside, and because I would not want the profits from my purchase going to an organization that would use the money to violate the Constitution. If Evan...
[16:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:And the marketers win - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:09] <exec> 08└─It's not as different as you think. I doubt he thinks there is anything wrong with the ingredients of Blue Moon. He probably doesn't like what MillerCoors does with the money though. Just like you wouldn't want to help support the NSA, he doesn't want to support MillerCoors. A short search on them b...
[16:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Data theft - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 1988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:37] <exec> 08└─Thirded. The other thing this whole biometrics push doesn't account for are false negatives. We had a thumbprint scanner at work a few years ago. It took about 4 tries to get the damned thing to recognize your prints. We eventually got rid of it after it had been in permanently unlocked mode for abo...
[16:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Double-sided? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:41] <exec> 08└─That may be but it still fails to explain why a "double-sided" ATM is particularly useful for biometrics, or even as an ATM. Having seen the back side of a traditional ATM I can tell you that this is where it's often loaded and programmed. Where will that happen in this "Janus" machine hmm?
[16:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Good lord! - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:32] <exec> 08└─I think it's more a matter of end users not understanding that in order for these types of "web reputation" filters to work the software would necessarily have to transmit URLs back to the manufacturer. There's no other way for them to build the database of URLs. So unaware end users enable the feat...
[16:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this sucks - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:14] <exec> 08└─Well, Catholicism is clearly the best religion for vampires: They just have to become priests. and then they can drink the blood of Christ at every mass. ;-)
[16:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Blood is blood - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:23] <exec> 08└─The difference between human and pig blood is like the difference between beef and pork, which is to say not terribly different.
[16:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Blood is blood - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:17:25] <exec> 08└─I think the point was that human blood isn't anything mystical, even though we kind of treat it like it is.
[16:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Slartibartfast [5104] (Score:1) 02I'd stick... if I could. - 06The Seduction of the New - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:20] <exec> 08└─For me, the epitome of the user experience was attained in Ubuntu 6.06, with Compiz (and its wonderful cube), and GNOME 2.x. But LTS only lasts for so long -- AND new applications, etc., come out in the meantime that often as not, I wind up needing for some damn reason. Personally, I'm kind of sold...
[16:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:47] <exec> 08└─So basically, you're asking "can they afford it?". If they could afford the raises when they were first put into place, then they'll still be able to afford them once the publicity bump wears off. The alternative scenario is that the boss knew that the raises would put him into the red, but was hopi...
[16:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score:2) 02Re:Precedent has been set - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:58] <exec> 08└─A large number of Walmart's employee's are part time, so probably wouldn't get the same annual salary. Also, only 1.3 Million are in the US, so a large number of foreign associates with lower cost of living might survive comfortably on far less of a salary. In fact, a huge number of Walmarts inside...
[16:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02ounces of prevention - 06Hospital Messed Up Medications in Half of Surgeries — How Common is it? - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:49] <exec> 08└─Hospitals aren't taking this lightly. At my health system, nurses are not to be disturbed while preparing medications and they are trying to minimize situations where nurses do prepare medications. A couple rules I work by: read the goddamn labels on the drugs before opening them, verify compatibili...
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[17:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Could it be... - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:02] <exec> 08└─A processor with a Tom Selleck moustache? [wikipedia.org] A digital choc ice? [magnumicecream.com]
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Could it be... - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:03] <exec> 08└─"Magnum"? Don't get too exited. They've been working on it for years and It'll be exactly the same as "Blue Steel" (Bulldozer maybe? :-p )
[17:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Could it be... - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe related to this Magnum? [wikipedia.org] From the Wikipedia article: The company has an engineering branch at Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
[17:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02price? - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:06] <exec> 08└─Its a condom. For when they tell you the price. Big FPGAs aren't cheap, you know.
[17:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score:2) 02Magnums??? - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:08] <exec> 08└─I didn't know AMD was making condoms now. I wonder if they changed the name to American Mega Dicks?
[17:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Maybe it's just a cablebox. - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:10] <exec> 08└─Or a new style of cablebox that uses IP like netflix instead of QAM. Maybe some sort of multicast IP setup so they can better conserve bandwidth. Just a guess.
[17:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:List of MEPs and their votes? - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 1464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:18] <exec> 08└─It's always a bit of digging to find out.. Here's what I got so far: press release: http://www.europarl.europa.eu [europa.eu] So the committee is called ITRE (Indu...
[17:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:List of MEPs and their votes? - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:19] <exec> 08└─I also spent already too much time searching for that info, found only one source that far and that is only for German MEPs (Member of the European Parliaments? Shouldn't it be MsEP?) The page [sven-giegold.de] is in german, but the result is in pictures. Explanation and votes: Bündnis 90/Die Grün...
[17:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:List of MEPs and their votes? - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:21] <exec> 08└─So the majority of the German EP members voted for the amendments.
[17:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02That's an "interesting" quote - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:23] <exec> 08└─...there is no indication as to how much abuse of dominance would be permissible under this arrangement
[17:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's an "interesting" quote - 06European Parliament Votes Against Net Neutrality Amendments - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:25] <exec> 08└─Well, as I understand it, an anti-theft law written the same way as these "net neutrality" rules would essentially be: "You may not steal, unless you've got a good reason to steal." While not really saying what would be a good reason to steal.
[17:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:39] <exec> 08└─Why would that create "super malaria"?
[17:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:"Them mosquitoes"? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:43] <exec> 08└─No, no yinzers.
[17:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Not just for humans - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure how expensive Ivermectin is
[17:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirtballs? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:02] <exec> 08└─Its an interesting practical vs theoretical situation. The theoretical ones who made up a framework or read it out of a religious book get intense interest from academics and journalism but there aren't many of them. The practical ones are mostly young male jocks, frat boys, drunks-in-training barfl...
[17:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:07] <exec> 08└─Yeah, marriage would imply benefits in the after divorce or separation. Can't have the mistresses stealing cash. With the current system, at most they can claim is child support--but that first requires proving the accused Congresscritter to be the father.
[17:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:13] <exec> 08└─In the modern world, sure. In the bad old days women would have to have twelve or so kids to have a realistic chance of two of them surviving long enough to reproduce. 80% death rate before reproduction seems sustainable, after all that's where we came from, long enough ago. Sure the death rate prob...
[17:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:14] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I think in the course of focusing on the chiild-survival rate, you ignored the death-in-childbirth rate.
[17:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:19] <exec> 08└─Don't forget dying intestate and estate tax. If everyone only married singles in that were younger than them, and inheritance laws continued to have large to infinite spouse exclusions, the .gov would not be amused. I can only imagine the divorce legal entertainment. The only thing worse than contes...
[17:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:20] <exec> 08└─Women literally get bombarded with potential suitors
[17:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:22] <exec> 08└─My extended circle of acquaintances includes many folks who identify as poly. The most well adjusted/supportive ones I've seen essentially are couples that have formed an extended group marriage. They vacation together and do family gatherings/car for kids together though most have separate househol...
[17:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:...if women can't own or work! - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:36] <exec> 08└─So a happy slave isn't a slave?
[17:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot about economics - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:47] <exec> 08└─"I may be stupid, but not as stupid as a man who has two wives."
[17:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:03] <exec> 08└─You're missing the point. Whether it's because you made an honest mistake or because you're an abrasive trollish dipshit I can't tell. GP clearly states that his objection is to the deceptive nature of the marketing (ie promoting it as a craft beer when it's not). You're the one who came up with the...
[17:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:04] <exec> 08└─That's some hipster-ass shit right there. And we all know San Diego doesn't need anymore hipsters...maybe we should deport them to Austin? Macros can't do IPAs or other stronger beers worth shit (unless they buy one out), but Blue Moon isn't even close to those -- it's a sweet beer commonly served w...
[17:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:07] <exec> 08└─He stopped buying it because he is a "beer aficionado" and he found out Blue Moon was made by MillerCoors.
[17:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:09] <exec> 08└─If you have to know where beer came from to know if you like it, you're a douchebag.
[17:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:19] <exec> 08└─I hope you realise that they are regional because of the corrupt anticompetitive practices of the multinationals (including, but not limited to the "three tier" system which grossly favours them).
[17:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:40] <exec> 08└─barely any barley :-D
[17:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:42] <exec> 08└─> so cheap because they use less barley and make up the difference with rice Would you believe me if I told you that budweiser actually pay more per kilo for their rice than their barley? Handy hint - you should do, as that information comes from the brewer himself (independently via two consultants...
[17:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Clarification? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:46] <exec> 08└─must brew beer using only traditional or innovative brewing ingredients
[17:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02National banks? Really? - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:21] <exec> 08└─Regardless, companies like Citigroup are in the proverbial catbird seat since young people think national banks offer the best mobile services.
[17:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Sigh - 06Is Your Antivirus Tracking You? Surprise! - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:08] <exec> 08└─"Let's allow a program with administrative privileges, which regularly scans and indexes every file on your hard disk / network for patterns, which can upload examples to the cloud, acts on signatures and heuristics updates sent to it by its manufacturer every single day, and which the user EXPECTS...
[17:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:38] <exec> 08└─Yeah, let's not study this interesting example of the human condition. That's totally how progress is made!
[17:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:2) 02Re:Psychological not biological. - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:04] <exec> 08└─Liberal arts majors gotta eat too! ;-)
[17:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score:2) 02Re:this is relatively recent in Linux distros - 06The Seduction of the New - 812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:26] <exec> 08└─I just reinstalled mint so that I could run OBD Doctor software. The latest version of perl wasn't available in the repo for 15, so instead of hacking it in with the dependency hell that was sure to follow I opted to do a complete reinstall to 17. Less than an hour later I had everything up and runn...
[17:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:18:34] <exec> 08└─Funny, we don't see such a reaction with the mandatory "update" to systemd. Gentoo and Slackware are the only options, all the "user-friendly" distros switched. :-(
[17:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:Loss of google maps classic - 06The Seduction of the New - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:01] <exec> 08└─unpack my 7-league boots and start making my own maps
[17:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Great, but... - 06Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:19:30] <exec> 08└─Not really. I'm asking how much intrinsic benefit there is to paying the employees more. It might well be a net benefit to the company. But right now, its really hard to know because any benefits of the program itself are comingled with the benefits from the hype about the program. Eventually the PR...
[17:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA insanity - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:58] <exec> 08└─What happens if there's two pilots in the cockpit, and one of them knocks the other one out? The usual over-reaction. Helios Flight 522 was more concerning. Both of these events were victims of the reaction after 9/11. Now locking the cockpit door prevents 9/11 style events, but instead causes 9525/...
[17:20:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dale [539] (Score:2) 02Re:TSA insanity - 06Court Orders TSA to Finalize Rule on Full-Body Scanners - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:20:59] <exec> 08└─I never had issues with the metal detectors and scanning of bags like they used to do. I don't really have issues with the "don't bring a gun on the plane" bit and other normal stuff we had prior. I remember as a child my dad having to measure his pocket knife to make sure the blade was under 3,4,5...
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[17:21:01] <exec> 08└─A bottle of water or soda having to be tossed is just idiotic Not to the companies selling water and soda after the security checkpoint. Of course "tossing" bombs is a very dangerous place. Next time you go through a checkpoint and see someone's water bottle tossed, run like hell. It's a bomb (which...
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[18:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Back to basics - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:06] <exec> 08└─It's amazing the sources some journalists use to find leads.
[18:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Author doesn't understand FPGA's - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:08] <exec> 08└─...with references to FPGA and DTV, two acronyms that don't usually go together.
[18:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score:2) 02Author doesn't understand development - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:09] <exec> 08└─So AMD is working on a next generation DTV product (that happens, you know), and built a prototype that uses an FPGA rather than custom silicon (because, you know, an FPGA costs, like, dozens of dollars and is reprogrammable, where custom silicon costs millions and isn't), and had the prototype buil...
[18:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Not just for humans - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 1310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:49] <exec> 08└─Interesting post. Malaria in the animal population is something that isn't talked about much, but eliminating it in humans won't do much good if there's a pool of it in livestock just waiting to cross back over. > Note that its a lot more effective and long term and in the end, cheaper, to simply el...
[18:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Squidious [4327] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:21] <exec> 08└─And yet the laws are somewhat silly because they are tied to legal marriage. Nothing is stopping any combination of adult males and females from sharing a living space and having sex with (and potentially reproducing with) whomever they want.
[18:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:31] <exec> 08└─I'm a Greek professor. "Polygny" is not a word. Polygyny, however, is and corresponds to polyandry. They come from the Greek poly (many) and gyne/gynaecosυ (woman) or aner/andros (man).
[18:14:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02four assumptions - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1927 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:41] <exec> 08└─Four interesting assumptions One is the assumption of cause and effect. Another is assumption that its a simple linear model. Perhaps monogamy dominates at extreme poverty and at better than 3rd world wealth, and the alternatives naturally optimize in the middle where you have more than a broken spe...
[18:14:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] 02Husbands die early - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 317 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:46] <exec> 08└─Husbands don't fare well, thank you for asking! But on to the point, is there any reason why UN declared polygamous marriages bad for women and children WITHOUT actually studying them in a culture where they are common? I mean, beside the fact that UN is mostly funded by USA and USA is basically a c...
[18:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:Husbands die early - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:49] <exec> 08└─The problem with polyandry is that men are emotionally weaker than women plus they don't get any support for 'wife-problems' from society. A man in polyandrous relationship is basically a dildo.
[18:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:They forgot about economics - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:54] <exec> 08└─Also, this talk about nutrition fails to address issues of psychological health, which I think are pretty important too. I heard that there is an Arab saying, "I may be stupid, but not as stupid as a man who has two wives." It's because the two wives are constant rivals and therefore an unending sou...
[18:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:18] <exec> 08└─In the UK at least, Blue Moon (Belgian Wit) is bollocks. It's not a style I like in general, though I've certainly had a whole bunch that I've liked, but Blue Moon's completely incipid. Even InBev's Hoegaarden blows it out of the water (not too surprising, considering its heritage, even if it was de...
[18:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:words that stick in your craw - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:24] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I saw an article in WaPo about hipsters bringing back "vintage" language. [washingtonpost.com] I was hoping they were using the words properly as charming anachronisms; I guess it's inevitable that the definitions would shift when usage resumes. My wife's got her Bachelor's degree in Linguisti...
[18:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's very simple. - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:37] <exec> 08└─They put out something like 20 beers a year. They're a craft brewer, in spirit at least.
[18:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 1376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:52] <exec> 08└─You are correct. Using rice and corn is not an industrial attempt at cheapening the product, it is there because of the product. The light lager is defined by its light color and light taste. You don't get that using all malt. You need the corn/rice to lighten the body, and in the case of corn, perh...
[18:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:We need a social-conscious barcode app - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:55] <exec> 08└─Ratebeer easily the best (in terms of accuracy) database in the world. Untappd may list more beers listed, but the accuracy is so pitifully low it doesn't reach the level that you would need (I just checked one not-a-brewery which sells 3 rebadged macro beers, and untapped lists *8* beers for it, in...
[18:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Fuck no - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:24] <exec> 08└─I'm not pairing my phone to some shitty Diebold ATM just to do an iris scan. It does work. It's just that whenever you make a withdrawal you also vote Republican for President. That's a feature, not a bug.
[18:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Intelligence and tools - 06Ravens Understand It When They've Been Cheated - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:16:45] <exec> 08└─Arguably buying an appliance is making a 'tool' with the resource 'money'. Some animals understand exchange (crows) while others don't (Otters, I'm pretty sure you mean otters, not seals. Seals don't use rocks to open clams).
[18:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:bio labs - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:17:33] <exec> 08└─Physically, nursing is almost a blue-collar profession. Agreed, and it's getting worse in the US due to the increasing national weight average. Back injuries on the rise, for example. [npr.org]
[18:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:No great surprise - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:00] <exec> 08└─They distance themselves from lame-ass goths by going to goth clothing stores? Methinks they're just more lame-ass self-delusional goths. Or "goths", as I like to call them.
[18:18:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03darkfeline [1030] 02Blood is blood - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 968 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:13] <exec> 08└─Blood is blood, human blood is no different. That is to say, human blood is not mystical life water, just cells and nutrients suspended in a fluid. I am actually quite fond of blood. Pig blood, duck blood, and the like are common in Chinese cuisine. I enjoy their taste. The only human blood I've had...
[18:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Comic showing its age. - 06The Seduction of the New - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:18:44] <exec> 08└─In the new version, the Mac user groans (because it's certain to break something), the Windows user is enthusiastic (because it might fix something the last update broke), and the Linux user fires off a 3000 word blog post about how awful systemd is and threatens to switch to OpenBSD.
[18:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Elephant in the room - 06Where Are the Jobs Really? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:00] <exec> 08└─[...] that all the normal people in the Netherlands, we're not talking about high earners here, were able to support an entire family (families were also larger then, let's say 3-4 kids) on *a single income*.
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[19:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Obligatory South Park - 06Cassini Is About to Taste the Huge Geysers of Enceladus - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:04] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY [youtube.com] Yesssss.....Yesss Enceladus. Let me taste your salty salty tears. :-D Joking aside, how fantastic would it be if there were complex organics in that water? With NASA's planned mission to Europa, and possible organics in the ocean of Enceladus...
[19:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:1) 02Can I buy it with - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:21] <exec> 08└─mystery cash?
[19:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Superbugs? - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:54] <exec> 08└─Because if imbibing the drug doesn't kill the mosquito, then it kills the malaria parasite within the mosquito...so the parasite also has pressure to adapt. Personally, I expect that the mosquitos would just evolve to find people repellent...but perhaps I'm too optomistic. (But that's the main way t...
[19:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:34] <exec> 08└─Where's our "marry young girls" troll when you need him? We've finally got a thread where he'd be on topic!
[19:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:28] <exec> 08└─Don't know how it is in Germany, but Warsteiner in the US tastes like vinegar.
[19:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:29] <exec> 08└─Not buying a beer just because it is made by Miller and not a true "craft" beer makes me think Evan Parent is less "beer aficionado" and more "beer douche-bag".
[19:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Max Hyre [3427] (Score:3, Informative) 02No, they didn't get to challenge - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:17] <exec> 08└─Reading TFDecision [uscourts.gov], all that was decided was where he could challenge his placement on the Terrorism Screening Center's (TSC's) list of suspicious characters. (Which pretty well insures his placement on the No Fly list, but that's another matter, as the decision makes clear.) What h...
[19:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:19:00] <exec> 08└─That seems wrong. I mean, I haven't tested every single one of these to prove that it's the case, but: http://without-systemd.org [without-systemd.org] I guess maybe it's true that the "user-friendly" (slack isn't user friendly?) ones are gone, but...
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[20:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:03] <exec> 08└─How the hell could altering the software of your own vehicle ever have had anything to do with infringing copyright? “Sensitive vehicle data could be easily manipulated, altered, or distributed – undetected – if these changes are implemented,” [GM] said.
[20:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02CBC ran a piece related to this - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:04] <exec> 08└─Heard it while driving home earlier, on the Spark program: http://www.cbc.ca [www.cbc.ca] And this: http://www.cbc.ca
[20:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:1) 02NASA films - 06Cassini Is About to Taste the Huge Geysers of Enceladus - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:14] <exec> 08└─No longer safe for work.
[20:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Could it be... - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:24] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's not even an AMD project, but Magnum just ordered a board with AMD chips on it.
[20:15:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 106 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:32] <exec> 08└─He stopped buying it because he is a "beer aficionado" and he found out Blue Moon was made by MillerCoors.
[20:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:$2 Domestics - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:36] <exec> 08└─Anyways, AB inBev owns Goose Island which makes some nice beers. Matilda is a very tasty beer.
[20:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Moof123 [5927] (Score:1) 02Re:Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:15] <exec> 08└─I prefer the little guys for the sake of supporting the little guy, but we should also be supporting the big guys if and when they wake up and start making good beer. Similarly Sierra Nevada got bought up years ago, and is still excellent. Shock Top is another that is a fake micro brewer. I will sti...
[20:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:About time! - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:28] <exec> 08└─The constitution also doesn't say the government can force you to surrender your constitutional rights before you're allowed to engage in some perfectly innocent activity (like getting on a plane) simply because some people do bad things. It also doesn't say the government can arbitrarily punish you...
[20:16:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Data theft - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:45] <exec> 08└─No, that's a secondary issue. The real issue is privacy. I'm not giving all these scumbag corporations (and by extension, the government) my biometric information and neither should anyone else. Boycott nonsense like this.
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[21:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] (Score:2) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:05] <exec> 08└─Despite outward appearances, I suspect it has less to do with real copyright issues and more to do with avoiding bad PR and forced recalls due to buggy, insecure, and *cough* misbehaving *cough* vehicle software. If you can sue security researchers (regardless of under what statute), problem solved,...
[21:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:06] <exec> 08└─In any case, what are the car makers afraid of?
[21:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:07] <exec> 08└─People shouldn't buy cars that run proprietary software in the first place. Automakers including General Motors and other vehicle manufacturers such as Deere & Co opposed the rules. They said vehicle owners could visit authorized repair shops for changes they may need to undertake.
[21:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:09] <exec> 08└─> People shouldn't buy cars that run proprietary software in the first place. Is your car pre-ECU (electronic control unit)? I don't think there are enough cars left from before 1980 (approx start date of digital engine controls) to go around. At least not in the USA. Now, in Cuba, where cars were n...
[21:13:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03M. Baranczak [1673] (Score:2) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I should buy a car that runs on free software. But nobody makes such cars. Do you have any practical suggestions? Or are you just going to sit there respecting my freedoms?
[21:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:13] <exec> 08└─Product control, avoidance of lawsuits, greedy bastards not wanting people to get their precious intellectual property (shitty software), or see the shady things they've done.
[21:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 1418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:14] <exec> 08└─This isn't a copyright issue, but rather a liability issue masquerading as a DMCA issue. If GM protects their software via encryption (or just about any other method) and you hack your way through that protection you have technically violated DMCA. Hence the frikken Library of Congress, which was NE...
[21:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:16] <exec> 08└─In any case, what are the car makers afraid of?
[21:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jummama [3969] (Score:2) 02Step in the right direction, but... - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:18] <exec> 08└─I think the NHTSA should require that researchers are allowed to access the source code itself, as it's a lot easier to analyze this way and find issues like Emission test detection routines, or unreliable throttle control threads. As it stands, with this exemption, a year from now (!?), you can fee...
[21:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Step in the right direction, but... - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:19] <exec> 08└─I think the NHTSA should require that researchers are allowed to access the source code itself, as it's a lot easier to analyze this way and find issues like Emission test detection routines, or unreliable throttle control threads.
[21:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirtballs? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:40] <exec> 08└─How many polygamists do you know?
[21:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Dirtballs? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:41] <exec> 08└─How many do I know personally? None at all. But they make the news here in the US pretty routinely. http://gosw.about.com [about.com] Basically, you have a small community of old bastards who lust over each other's pubescent daughters, so they just swap them around...
[21:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:58] <exec> 08└─Not really, if that were the case, then why hasn't there been a push for it the way that there was a push for same-sex marriage? Under your theory, they're both illegal because of crazy right-wing religious groups, but in one case you've had the left-wing folks pushing back against it and the other...
[21:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 1252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:59] <exec> 08└─why hasn't there been a push for it the way that there was a push for same-sex marriage? That's actually a really good question. There are a lot less poly people than gay people, so that's a big reason for the lack of push to change the laws. Also, poly people tend to be white, middle aged, educated...
[21:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bad education is no point of pride - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:16] <exec> 08└─Leaky memory, no better. And willful ignorance in the Internet age, just plain dumb. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] The terminology was well established a century or so before you. ;) No point arguing at this late time.
[21:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:letter v. spirit - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:02] <exec> 08└─They're regional because it makes no sense to ship them out of state when there's plenty of demand locally. Why spend money promoting nationally when you only have enough to satisfy regional demand?
[21:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is Evan Parent and why do we care? - 06Playing Small is Ok, Says Judge in "Craft Beer" Case - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:16:28] <exec> 08└─Blue Moon isn't made with barley, it's made with wheat.
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[21:17:02] <exec> 08└─Landlords and banks especially would be in a position to verify your identity and sign a new key after the old key's revocation has been published ...
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[22:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:4, Informative) 02Applets - 06Java "No Longer the Greatest Risk" to US Windows PC Users - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:19] <exec> 08└─I really wish they'd be more specific and say "Oracle Java Applets", which are not al that common, rather than Java as a Language or a VM.
[22:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Applets - 06Java "No Longer the Greatest Risk" to US Windows PC Users - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:20] <exec> 08└─The last I heard, Adobe had more exploits than anyone else. Interesting that Oracle has taken over that lead position.
[22:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:34] <exec> 08└─Do you have any practical suggestions?
[22:48:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 1418 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:36] <exec> 08└─This isn't a copyright issue, but rather a liability issue masquerading as a DMCA issue. If GM protects their software via encryption (or just about any other method) and you hack your way through that protection you have technically violated DMCA. Hence the frikken Library of Congress, which was NE...
[22:48:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snick [1408] 02Re:What has Copyright to do with it? - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 47 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:38] <exec> 08└─In any case, what are the car makers afraid of?
[22:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Step in the right direction, but... - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:42] <exec> 08└─I'm a "researcher". You call me "backyard mechanic". I own it, and I want it to do more, or less, or something different than the manufacturer designed it to do. I'm "researching" it. Why should some select researchers be permitted to access the code, if I can't? NDA's? Why should any researcher be...
[22:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jummama [3969] (Score:2) 02Re:Step in the right direction, but... - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:44] <exec> 08└─Optimally, all the ECU code would be just GPL or BSD in the first place so that it's not an issue. NDA is the only way I can realistically imagine the car manufacturers allowing any sort of source code access though, and my thought with that is for it to only prevent derivative binaries, and to prev...
[22:50:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:13] <exec> 08└─Its simply a regional perspective where the main advocates of controlling women's bodies are old white men. I do like your correction since stereotypes are generally bad and in this case let a lot of people escape blame.
[22:50:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:37] <exec> 08└─I'm a Greek professor. "Polygny" is not a word. Polygyny, however, is and corresponds to polyandry. They come from the Greek poly (many) and gyne/gynaecosυ (woman) or aner/andros (man).
[22:50:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:44] <exec> 08└─because those definitions are definitely not the same as the ones I learned in college.
[22:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:46] <exec> 08└─The last I heard polygyny = is one man marrying multiple women, polyandry = one woman marrying multiple men, and polygamy = an umbrella term for polygyny and polyandry. Did some academician unilaterally decide to change established definitions again?
[22:50:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score:1) 02Re:Muslims - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:50:49] <exec> 08└─Just a symptom of the underlying social ill: Those related women have no property rights and once married are socially unacceptable mates. So if you like your relatives you marry them, otherwise you let them fend for themselves. Hardly a ringing endorsement and hardly a financial arrangement when th...
[22:52:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unconstitutional^11 - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:07] <exec> 08└─The Constitution doesn't specifically mention bicycles either. By GP's "logic", any authoritarian can arbitrarily forbid those as well. Your short list omits the FISA Courts^W Star Chambers [wikipedia.org] which are at the heart of these unconstitutional abuses. A lot of folks don't know that those...
[22:52:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''allow [bad guys] to fly out but not fly in'' - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:10] <exec> 08└─...but...but they might use what's in their toiletry pouch to manufacture A BOMB in-flight. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [theregister.co.uk] start adding the acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly. Watch the reaction temperature carefully. [...] After a few hours--assuming, by some miracle...
[22:52:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:[1] Content is behind scripts. - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:12] <exec> 08└─It's one of their earliest pages. They soon realized it was a dumb idea and stopped that--but haven't gone back and undone that where it exists. -- gewg_
[22:52:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:23] <exec> 08└─Hell, I didn't piss on my hands anyway, I'll just skip washing.
[22:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:52:24] <exec> 08└─Oh, I will. If you're still pissing on your hands, I'll definitely remember that I don't want to shake your hands. You have heard that old joke, about the sailor and the Marine using the head at the same time? The Marine zips up, and walks to the exit, the sailor mouths off, saying "We were taught t...
[22:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uhhh - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:54:27] <exec> 08└─Anybody find it odd that this article comes out right before Halloween?
[22:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:54:59] <exec> 08└─Gentoo and Slackware are the only options, all the "user-friendly" distros switched.
[22:55:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02Re:Mandatory updates - 06The Seduction of the New - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:55:01] <exec> 08└─Have you never met the neckbeards behind Debian?
[22:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Food allergies - 06Scientists Theorize Inflammation May Trigger Some Mental Illnesses - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:56:24] <exec> 08└─turns out his gut turns gluten into a kind of opiate (http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/peptide.asp) (from a quick google search) and he was high half the time.
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[23:48:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hash14 [1102] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Utter nonsense! - 06JRR Tolkien: 'i Never Expected a Money Success' - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:20] <exec> 08└─“I never expected a money success,” said Tolkien, pacing the room, as he does constantly when he speaks. “In fact, I never even thought of commercial publication when I wrote The Hobbit back in the Thirties.
[23:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] (Score:2) 02...and yet... - 06JRR Tolkien: 'i Never Expected a Money Success' - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:21] <exec> 08└─...his heirs still expect money from his work. Not their ow work, mind you, but grandpa's. When was the last time a plumber's grandchildren still collected a regular salary from that one time the plumber cleared a stopped toilet? It's high past time that all intellectual so-called "property" be outl...
[23:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Huh, What?!? - 06JRR Tolkien: 'i Never Expected a Money Success' - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:22] <exec> 08└─This interview was originally published in The Telegraph magazine on March 22. 1968. I know slashdot was a bit slow with news, but this takes the biscuit ;)
[23:48:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Run for the hills! Or the shire! Or something! - 06JRR Tolkien: 'i Never Expected a Money Success' - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:24] <exec> 08└─"I never expected a money success," said Tolkien, pacing the room, as he does constantly when he speaks.
[23:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Applets - 06Java "No Longer the Greatest Risk" to US Windows PC Users - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:34] <exec> 08└─I really wish they'd be more specific and say "Oracle Java Applets", which are not al that common, rather than Java as a Language or a VM.
[23:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Why does Apple use .Net? - 06Java "No Longer the Greatest Risk" to US Windows PC Users - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:36] <exec> 08└─Apple's iOS Enterprise tool can be used to install in-house apps on iGadgets without going through the app store. The last I checked, the Windows version used .Net. That's really silly - it's not a very big tool, you have to download tens of gigabytes of dependencies to get it to run, and it support...
[23:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Greatest risk - 06Java "No Longer the Greatest Risk" to US Windows PC Users - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:38] <exec> 08└─I thought the greatest risk is Microsoft Windows Updates. Consider, Windows Updates are known to add telemetry (privacy infringing features) and brick your OS and hardware (for example, the fake USB driver brick a long time ago), and recent events have shown that updates have very little auditing be...
[23:48:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Re:Step in the right direction, but... - 06US Copyright Office Says People Have the Right to Hack their Own Cars' Software - 386 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:48:56] <exec> 08└─I'm a "researcher". You call me "backyard mechanic". I own it, and I want it to do more, or less, or something different than the manufacturer designed it to do. I'm "researching" it. Why should some select researchers be permitted to access the code, if I can't? NDA's? Why should any researcher be...
[23:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:NASA films - 06Cassini Is About to Taste the Huge Geysers of Enceladus - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:07] <exec> 08└─Just wait until the frigid microbial life is exposed.
[23:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Author doesn't understand development - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:25] <exec> 08└─Exactly what I thought when I read: FPGA and DTV, two acronyms that don't usually go together.
[23:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sounds like a male model pose - 06AMD Has a Mystery Product Called 'Magnum' - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:27] <exec> 08└─Impressive feat, if AMD can pull it off.
[23:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not just for humans - 06Getting Back at Them Mosquitoes - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:09] <exec> 08└─It can do strange things to your digestive system. Not anything I would inflict on the general population. Guts seizing up etc. Not good.
[23:50:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:39] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the death-in-childbirth rate is only already used-up married (or at least spoken-for) women.
[23:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not seeing how those things are at all connected.
[23:50:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:load of tosh...? - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:50:50] <exec> 08└─It's illegal because it fucks anybody that can't find a partner.
[23:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Splitting hairs - 06Study Suggests Not All Polygynous Marriage is Harmful to Women Or Children - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:51:08] <exec> 08└─Try to take better notes next time.
[23:52:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02At one time I was regarded as paranoid... - 06Americans Win Right to Challenge Inclusion on Govt's Secret No-Fly List - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:52:32] <exec> 08└─... for claiming there even was such a thing as a Do Not Fly List: Is This the America I Love? [kuro5hin.org] Some of the email I received in response to writing that said I was just making this all up, or that those whose stories I related were making it up.
[23:52:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Diebold - 06The Eye-Scanning ATM is Here - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:52:53] <exec> 08└─Yup. This would be a good time to mention that Diebold made highly-insecure Windoze-based voting machines. [xkcd.com] ...and, if the thingie was part of -their- gear, some movies spring to mind. There's "Minority Report" with the eyeball transplant. {gewg_ gets queezy} There's the "I do only eyes" l...
[23:54:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Halloween came early. - 06Nurses and MIT Create Medical Makerspace - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:08] <exec> 08└─The previous story [soylentnews.org] was about people who consider themselves vampires, and this one about "hacking and making" body parts has Frankensteinian implications.
[23:54:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:My wife gets that - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:21] <exec> 08└─None of the 9 comments I previously posted on this article said that John Edgar Browning shouldn't have conducted this research. Are you currently experiencing the symptoms of anemia? They include confusion and poor concentration.
[23:54:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhhh - 06Inside the Human Blood-drinking, 'Real Vampire' Community of New Orleans - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:54:51] <exec> 08└─No. Hunting and destroying vampires is a year-round responsibility for the chosen ones.
[23:55:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Re:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS - 06The Seduction of the New - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:55:47] <exec> 08└─I'm still running that version on a netbook.
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