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[00:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:58] <exec> 08└─The universities of the "old" age were not entirely privately funded if I recall correctly. Also, many of the discoveries were never bound to any "we need to know" basis. Or did the mathematical description of gravity between heavenly bodies have a precursor in calculating the efficiency carrying a...
[00:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:59] <exec> 08└─Indeed. It is true that industry will fund a lot of science. However, that doesn't mean that we can just let industry fund it. There's things like space exploration that are just too costly for private industry to fund. The LHC was about 7,5bn Euro and there's only a small number of corporations tha...
[00:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mainframes, Internet, Space program - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:01] <exec> 08└─That impetus came from Big Government, along with a lot of the early research funding.
[00:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02He blinded me with scabs - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:03] <exec> 08└─Why do the editors post Scab Pickins' shit?
[00:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:He blinded me with scabs - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:04] <exec> 08└─If you don't like it, don't read it. If you have something better to contribute, please do so here: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[00:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:06] <exec> 08└─You have an opportunity to open a gas station near a busy road. But... across the street will be a station giving away gas for free. Can you compete? Your gas would have to be better -- a lot better. This is what happens when the taxpayers are forced to fund any industry. Private competition is near...
[00:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:08] <exec> 08└─The trouble is science has value only in the long term. When James Clerk Maxwell first formulated his equations in the 1860s no one had any idea that they would be useful for developing stuff like radio communications and so much else besides. It wasn't until 1888 that electromagnetic radiation was...
[00:16:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Radio and Maxwell's Equations - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:10] <exec> 08└─So can anyone tell me what technological innovation spurred the development of radio and wireless communications? It seems rather that it required the derivation of Maxwell's Equations and from it the prediction that there exists something that would be called electromagnetic radiation for folks lik...
[00:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Science for Profit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 871 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:12] <exec> 08└─Just as we've seen time and again that pharmaceutical multinationals will happily stop producing drugs that don't make enough profit, I'd be willing to wager that the bulk of research by corporations is for things that show some likelihood of immediate or nearly immediate profit, and that can be mon...
[00:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Science for Profit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:14] <exec> 08└─> They're going to fund whatever will make their shareholders more money in the next fiscal year. Your argument might be more persuasive if it were true. For example, Amazon's business plan told investors right up front not to expect profits for several years. Yet those with vision invested anyway....
[00:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02This ignores the giants' shoulders - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:16] <exec> 08└─I'm a bit shocked at the lack of respect for mathematics shown here. If you take Sadi Carnot [wikipedia.org] as an example: brilliant engineer and inventor. Taught us a lot about steam engines efficiency in 1824. Every chemistry student still has to study the Carnot cycle [wikipedia.org] in thermo....
[00:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Will industry fund taxonomy? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:18] <exec> 08└─No, I thought as much.
[00:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:20] <exec> 08└─I agree with the tech -> science innovation observation completely. Any area of the scientific literature I have examined in detail, I found people arguing about the same thing for decades/centuries until someone comes up with a new methodology. The connection this author attempts making to governme...
[00:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:36] <exec> 08└─a commenter on Slashdot wrote: Modified F-35 By belthize Just weld some bomb releases on that badboy and let it do it. It will be cost efficient having only one airplane model
[00:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 2357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:40] <exec> 08└─I would rather pay people to sit at home playing XBOX and selling weed, then building huge bomber fleets that *also* magically make billionaires back here at home. Dunno about other people, but I have always found it intensely abhorrent that ANY American gets paid millions of dollars to contribute t...
[00:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:42] <exec> 08└─[...] I would drag the executives out into the street and *SHOOT* them dead.
[00:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:16:45] <exec> 08└─You forgot the bombs. It can hardly be a proper bomber, if it's not filled with bombs. :-)
[00:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:47] <exec> 08└─The main reason I hate shutting the plant down, is things never start up smoothly. Two weeks ago, it was the air compressor, last month it was the cooling tower, also last month one of the machines lost it's memory. The robots sometimes spaz out. It's always something at startup time, large or small...
[00:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, but, you're being rational. We aren't rational with junior personnel, we only keep them around to blame things on. I mean - why does any sane man have children? He's got to have someone to blame for the disappearing cookies, the missing ice cream, the broken window, the dent in the fender, etc...
[00:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Who is junior admin? - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:09] <exec> 08└─He does our accounting. Give that or coding in perl, I'll take the perl, kthxbye :)
[00:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:46] <exec> 08└─There were technical justifications for why ACPI won over flattened device tree, specifically because FDT is a descriptive only environment. A properly coded ACPI table allows a LOT of hardware to just work without individually written drives. Most fan systems are controlled by a I2C chip. Withotu A...
[00:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:arm - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:19:48] <exec> 08└─ARM mostly uses the same UEFI base (TianoCore) as x86 for anything that isn't embedded. I'm not kidding when I can say with a straight face it was an improvement in increasing the "just works" factor over u-boot. Unfortunately, TianoCore isn't GPL, so its not required that vendors post their firmwar...
[00:20:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is this the right room for an argument? - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:20:17] <exec> 08└─Because of the tax loopholes Apple is using, much of their profits end up at their divisions in Ireland and the Bahamas (perhaps also the Netherlands?). Apple may be biding their time until after the U.S. presidential election. If a Republican president gets installed and wants a tax holiday [wikipe...
[00:21:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not the only ISP - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:21:09] <exec> 08└─Telstra seem to have forgotten that they're not the country's only ISP. Rather than deal with them, one can go to BigPond [wikipedia.org] instead. Oh, wait...
[00:21:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:29] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't call Proto-Indo-European a "made up" language. It's based on some hard linguistic evidence of consonant changes, vowel shifts, and various other patterns that are known to have occurred. Sure, the linguists don't know just how correct they are because there is no written evidence of any I...
[00:21:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hipsters? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:21:49] <exec> 08└─"Also." Sarah Palin
[00:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Magnetic quadrupoles - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:15] <exec> 08└─If only they discovered a magnetic monopole...
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[01:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TLD - 06Tor .onion Names Reserved by IETF - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:28] <exec> 08└─has formally recognized .onion names
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[01:40:29] <exec> 08└─SN on Tor does not even work for me. When the main page is opened, it displays old stories that are hours to months old. Here is what I see now (01:04 UTC): 1. SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz (Friday October 30, @11:00AM) 2. SN Financial "Stretch Goal" 2015 (Wednesday October 21, @02:29PM) 3. Ongoin...
[01:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:TLD - 06Tor .onion Names Reserved by IETF - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:31] <exec> 08└─Are you at the onion address bare, or is it autocompleting to /meta? (I can't check at the moment if its actually working properly or not). Tor service is provided on a "best effort" basis, and unless the community tells us something went and broke, it sometimes slips under the radar since not all o...
[01:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Yeah, okay... - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:42] <exec> 08└─Wall Street Journal is a pretty awesome read when you stay away from the political shit. It's like the New York Times without the two arts sections and like the Los Angeles Times without the Mexicans.
[01:40:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lies and damn lies. - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:44] <exec> 08└─But it's a Tumblr blog! They are renown for their high accuracy.
[01:40:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:47] <exec> 08└─Well, did anybody notice how that worked with the banks?
[01:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:54] <exec> 08└─The trouble is science has value only in the long term.
[01:40:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:55] <exec> 08└─It has worked reasonably well so far I think. The government of the United States funded the research into networking technology that led to the creation of the Internet after all. They put a man on the moon that way too. There is no such thing as "right" long-term science by the way, there is only...
[01:40:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:57] <exec> 08└─There have been research laboratories like Bell Labs and such but they are a minority.
[01:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:40:59] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but that one doesn't make sense. Science isn't like fuel where you can have a full tank and not need any more. Not only that but a lot of science is confirming what others have already done in an effort to verify that something is actually true. Science requires duplicated efforts.
[01:41:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Radio and Maxwell's Equations - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:01] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure what it may have been in particular, but "practical electricians" existed earlier: As Jenkin states in the preface to his work the science of the schools was so dissimilar from that of the practical electrician that it was quite impossible to give students sufficient, or even approximat...
[01:41:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Radio and Maxwell's Equations - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:03] <exec> 08└─Reading Maxwell's biography [wikipedia.org] shows that he was highly mathematically inclined and as a teenager was fascinated by geometry. He eventually received a degree in mathematics from Cambridge in 1854. He delved into mathematical physics afterwards and proved how the rings of Saturn were mad...
[01:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Science for Profit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:05] <exec> 08└─Your argument might be more persuasive if it were true.
[01:41:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Science for Profit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:07] <exec> 08└─Trouble is scientific advancements that take even longer than Amazon to yield profits. Maxwell's Equations took 40+ years before they produced radio. Special relativity and quantum mechanics also took more than half a century before they saw any practical use, and general relativity still hasn't pro...
[01:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:09] <exec> 08└─Financially motivated science has its own issues as well.
[01:41:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:10] <exec> 08└─I don't like either. Personally, my plan is to get independently wealthy enough to fund my own scientific activities. It shouldn't take much, there is tons of data available out there for free/cheap. I just can't deal with the hype and BS being passed as science these days, I want no further interac...
[01:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:3, Insightful) 02An old argument: - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:13] <exec> 08└─This same thing came up during the hearings on the National Information Infrastructure and the NREN in the 1991 (or whatever similar buzzword phrase you prefer). Someone testifying against the bill was talking about how the Interstate Highway system had been such a waste of money and that the govern...
[01:41:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03lubricus [232] (Score:4, Informative) 02What a load of deliberately myopic horseshit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:15] <exec> 08└─This article is written by a conservative member of the British House of Lords, who is simply trying to justify additional cuts to basic research. The insults begin even in the summary. The discovery of the structure of DNA depended heavily on X-ray crystallography of biological molecules, a techni...
[01:41:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02False Dichotomy - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:16] <exec> 08└─Certainly some tech preceded the science that could explain it. The steam engine fits that bill. Other science preceded the tech that could utilize it. Einstein's discoveries were mostly "useless" for quite a while after he made them. So we should (gasp) fund BOTH! We spend so much money on an army...
[01:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:41:34] <exec> 08└─You really need to have the subtext added to the original statements to see what's really going on. Let me provide it for you... "Over the past century, no nation has used air power to accomplish its global reach like the United States"
[01:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What use are they? - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:42:01] <exec> 08└─You are looking at this all wrong. The purpose of building this is to funnel money from your pocket into Northrup Grumman's. This will work perfectly for that purpose.
[01:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02purism is another attempt - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:52] <exec> 08└─at getting rid of IME (and other intrusions): http://puri.sm [puri.sm]
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[02:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02earlier story about SHA-1 - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:25] <exec> 08└─here
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[02:40:36] <exec> 08└─It is not auto-completing. It is the root domain. Right now (at 2:09 UTC), the main page is showing "Breaking News" stories. 1. Canada Does an About Face (Elects Liberal Majority Government) (Tuesday October 20, @02:00AM) 2. Scott Walker Drops Out of US Presidential Race (Monday September 21, @07:28...
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[02:40:37] <exec> 08└─Hi, different AC here. When I open http://7rmath4ro2of2a42.onion [7rmath4ro2of2a42.onion] I'm currently seeing the "Meta" section. When I last did so, several weeks ago, it was showing the "Main" section as expected. However (again, weeks ago), when I would click on the title of a stories, my brows...
[02:40:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:40:54] <exec> 08└─I think the article is a payed-for agenda that has little to do with the real world. The message seems to be that commercialism is the better way to go.
[02:41:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:03] <exec> 08└─They put a man on the moon that way too.
[02:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Is the premise correct? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:21] <exec> 08└─The general idea, that cutting public funding for research will have no downsides, offends me on a not even wrong [columbia.edu] level. Unfortunately, I can't think of an easy counter if I assume the premise is true, that basic research does not help to advance technology. One of the biggest things...
[02:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 1169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:41:58] <exec> 08└─Excelent illustrations, but it's even worse than that. The entire civilization has reached an abject failure to cope. It's not just the big, ambitious projects. It's the straightforward stuff, too. Building a school is now an exercise in outdoing/outspending the Taj Mahal. Nothing is maintained any...
[02:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:57] <exec> 08└─Lighting the brake lights when you come off the accelerator is going to exacerbate traffic problems as well. I find that every time someone hits their brakes the person behind the does the same at about the same point but the reaction delay adds about a second to the duration. I'm pretty confident i...
[02:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:44:02] <exec> 08└─Compared to automotive, semiconductor startup after a fab slowdown is much worse. Years ago back when I was still in semiconductors, our customer idled their dram/nand flash plant for the month of December to clear some of their inventory and ideally save some cash. Since production was slow, none o...
[02:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02I used to care. - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:06] <exec> 08└─Nowadays I just don't. I care more about locked bootloaders, operating system restrictions, and limitations on consumer choice. I'll be happy with ARM, MIPS, x86, whatever, as long as I can do what I want with the thing. Now with Windows 10's UEFI updates, it's becoming like with smartphones that ar...
[02:47:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VanderDecken [5216] 02Magnetic quadrupoles - 06Physicists Uncover Novel Phase of Matter - 191 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:30] <exec> 08└─TL;DR: This form of matter as seen in the experiment is a magnetic quadrupole, and difficult to detect. They were able to do so by examining shifts in harmonic frequencies of reflected light.
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[03:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Valkor [4253] (Score:2) 02I can't stop laughing - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:40:37] <exec> 08└─"SHA-1 is almost as old as the art of war: created in 1995" Hmmm yes quite old.
[03:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I can't stop laughing - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:40:38] <exec> 08└─I'm trying to figure out what they're referring to as that books is ancient.
[03:41:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Yeah, okay... - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 23 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:02] <exec> 08└─The Wall Street Journal
[03:41:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 639 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:05] <exec> 08└─The universities of the "old" age were not entirely privately funded if I recall correctly. Also, many of the discoveries were never bound to any "we need to know" basis. Or did the mathematical description of gravity between heavenly bodies have a precursor in calculating the efficiency carrying a...
[03:41:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormwyrm [717] 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 903 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:14] <exec> 08└─The trouble is science has value only in the long term. When James Clerk Maxwell first formulated his equations in the 1860s no one had any idea that they would be useful for developing stuff like radio communications and so much else besides. It wasn't until 1888 that electromagnetic radiation was...
[03:41:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:19] <exec> 08└─I've got to admit it's tempting to want to see the same brute force science technique used to put a man on mars or genetically engineer a dragon.
[03:41:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Appalbarry [66] 02Science for Profit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 871 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:25] <exec> 08└─Just as we've seen time and again that pharmaceutical multinationals will happily stop producing drugs that don't make enough profit, I'd be willing to wager that the bulk of research by corporations is for things that show some likelihood of immediate or nearly immediate profit, and that can be mon...
[03:41:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fritsd [4586] 02This ignores the giants' shoulders - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1592 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:29] <exec> 08└─I'm a bit shocked at the lack of respect for mathematics shown here. If you take Sadi Carnot [wikipedia.org] as an example: brilliant engineer and inventor. Taught us a lot about steam engines efficiency in 1824. Every chemistry student still has to study the Carnot cycle [wikipedia.org] in thermo....
[03:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:34] <exec> 08└─I hope you succeed : )
[03:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:An old argument: - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:36] <exec> 08└─Wow, Interstate Highway system was a waste of money? That's extremely ignorant on more levels than Gore's ancestry. One of the main reasons for the numbered highway system of the 1920s was to make the private highway system and its corruption moot. Private highways such as the Jackson Highway from N...
[03:41:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lubricus [232] 02What a load of deliberately myopic horseshit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 361 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:38] <exec> 08└─This article is written by a conservative member of the British House of Lords, who is simply trying to justify additional cuts to basic research. The insults begin even in the summary. The discovery of the structure of DNA depended heavily on X-ray crystallography of biological molecules, a techni...
[03:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What a load of deliberately myopic horseshit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:39] <exec> 08└─There are right now thousands of people that are fully qualified scientists who are instead working crappy non-science jobs or are unemployed. It's not like we have to somehow materialize scientists out of thin air, all we'd have to do is hire and supply scientists to do the research they are fully...
[03:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is the premise correct? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:41] <exec> 08└─You also are working with a questionable premise. It is that the government is funding basic research. From what I've seen, scraps get thrown that way in the case of biomed. Take cancer. Here is what we need to know to within an order of magnitude: 1) How many cells are there of each tissue in the h...
[03:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is the premise correct? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:41:43] <exec> 08└─Some refs to start: "Approximately 7x10^15 mature cells are produced in a human lifetime and these could be produced in 53 cell generations (2^53 = 9x10^15). In 60 cell generations a total of 10^18 cells would be produced, enough for over 1000 years of human life." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[03:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:17] <exec> 08└─What's really obscene, is that if you own $1,200 worth of Northrop Grumman stock, over the next ten years, you'll get that $200 back just in dividends. I realized a few years back that I own enough stock in defense contractors that most of the money I pay in taxes that goes to defense, I actually ge...
[03:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 1700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:27] <exec> 08└─Absolutely, but take it further. Why the hell not just fire up a production line and build more B-52s. Stick super efficient turbofans on them, 4 large ones instead of 8 tiny ones. Up-to-date avionics of course. Obviously there would be no reason for a crew of any more than 2, as opposed to the 4 or...
[03:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:44] <exec> 08└─So if he's experienced in running companies to the ground, does that mean Tesla is doomed in the sense it can't be ran into the ground?
[03:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02Re:Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:54] <exec> 08└─Well, poop. Especially given the infrequency. If you don't mind the tangent, what kind of changes to the API did they make? The notable ones I mean. I'm just interested in the observance from your end for no real reason. Or was it just a giant redesign across the board that would be too much to go t...
[03:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Anytime I deal with a business... - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 2216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:54] <exec> 08└─I freelance too, Hyperturtle, and I had one recently do the same to me in regards to trying to lay claim to anything I did after termination. I responded, in writing, that I agreed in consideration of their request, that they would pay my hourly rate for forty hour weeks for five years in addition t...
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[04:57:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:32] <exec> 08└─... for all programmers to be forced to endure assembly language programming, just not the x86-64 instruction set. That instruction set is like what Churchill said about Russia: "[A] riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma." The only people who should learn that instruction set are people who e...
[04:57:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:33] <exec> 08└─It bothers me a bit that people start programming on languages that hide all the complexity of programming and then never get back to see what's actually going on. I'm not sure that you need to go so far as to learn assembly, but the little bit of C that I learned had a huge influence on how I look...
[04:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:35] <exec> 08└─It bothers me a bit that people start programming on languages that hide all the complexity of programming and then never get back to see what's actually going on
[04:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score:2) 02If you prefer video - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:37] <exec> 08└─I saw this video about the same general topic [youtube.com] recently. My favorite text article about this topic has been this: http://www.emulators.com [emulators.com] An oldie, but a goodie. I haven't decided if this new article is better or not.
[04:57:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:38] <exec> 08└─As a programmer, it is useful to learn what happens inside the box.
[04:57:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:40] <exec> 08└─That's crazy talk. Next you're going to be telling us that it's possible to write optimized Java.
[04:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:42] <exec> 08└─If you are using Java voluntarily, then optimization is not very prominent on your radar. If you are using Java because you are coding for Android, even Dalvik is pretty fast for most things that people do in applications; for everything else there is NDK. Most applications are not doing anything re...
[04:57:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Valkor [4253] (Score:2) 02I can't stop laughing - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:49] <exec> 08└─"SHA-1 is almost as old as the art of war: created in 1995" Hmmm yes quite old.
[04:57:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I can't stop laughing - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:57:50] <exec> 08└─I'm trying to figure out what they're referring to as that books is ancient.
[04:57:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Totally incorrect - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:57:52] <exec> 08└─The summary is incorrect. You can't crack an SHA-1 signature, not even with all the computing power in the world. The authors found another type of collision attack against SHA-1. There are still no preimage attacks against SHA-1. In other words, it is possible to make two pieces of data that have t...
[04:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:28] <exec> 08└─I've got to admit it's tempting to want to see the same brute force science technique used to put a man on mars or genetically engineer a dragon.
[04:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:29] <exec> 08└─Alas we are no longer so rich we can afford to be that wasteful. Of course we aren't rich anymore because we thought we could waste without limit or consequence.
[04:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:44] <exec> 08└─I hope you succeed : )
[04:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:An old argument: - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:47] <exec> 08└─Wow, Interstate Highway system was a waste of money? That's extremely ignorant on more levels than Gore's ancestry. One of the main reasons for the numbered highway system of the 1920s was to make the private highway system and its corruption moot. Private highways such as the Jackson Highway from N...
[04:58:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What a load of deliberately myopic horseshit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:49] <exec> 08└─There are right now thousands of people that are fully qualified scientists who are instead working crappy non-science jobs or are unemployed. It's not like we have to somehow materialize scientists out of thin air, all we'd have to do is hire and supply scientists to do the research they are fully...
[04:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is the premise correct? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:53] <exec> 08└─You also are working with a questionable premise. It is that the government is funding basic research. From what I've seen, scraps get thrown that way in the case of biomed. Take cancer. Here is what we need to know to within an order of magnitude: 1) How many cells are there of each tissue in the h...
[04:58:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is the premise correct? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:58:54] <exec> 08└─Some refs to start: "Approximately 7x10^15 mature cells are produced in a human lifetime and these could be produced in 53 cell generations (2^53 = 9x10^15). In 60 cell generations a total of 10^18 cells would be produced, enough for over 1000 years of human life." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[04:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:28] <exec> 08└─What's really obscene, is that if you own $1,200 worth of Northrop Grumman stock, over the next ten years, you'll get that $200 back just in dividends. I realized a few years back that I own enough stock in defense contractors that most of the money I pay in taxes that goes to defense, I actually ge...
[04:59:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 1700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:59:37] <exec> 08└─Absolutely, but take it further. Why the hell not just fire up a production line and build more B-52s. Stick super efficient turbofans on them, 4 large ones instead of 8 tiny ones. Up-to-date avionics of course. Obviously there would be no reason for a crew of any more than 2, as opposed to the 4 or...
[04:59:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02Bring balance to the force - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:59:47] <exec> 08└─"aggressive commitment to a strong and balanced force" The last time somebody brought balance to The Force it didn't turn out too well. Oh wait, we're talking about the US empire, so I guess all will go according to plan.
[05:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:00:53] <exec> 08└─So if he's experienced in running companies to the ground, does that mean Tesla is doomed in the sense it can't be ran into the ground?
[05:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:35] <exec> 08└─that touch screen bullshit is a show-stopper for me, too. not that I can afford the car now, but if I could - I'd still think twice about that stupid laptop screen in the middle of the dash. great for the 'press on glass' generation but I'm a grey hair and pressing on glass without real buttons is t...
[05:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02Re:Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:02:05] <exec> 08└─Well, poop. Especially given the infrequency. If you don't mind the tangent, what kind of changes to the API did they make? The notable ones I mean. I'm just interested in the observance from your end for no real reason. Or was it just a giant redesign across the board that would be too much to go t...
[05:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Anytime I deal with a business... - 06Telstra Claims 18-Month-Long First Dibs on Ideas Created in Hackathon - 2216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:04] <exec> 08└─I freelance too, Hyperturtle, and I had one recently do the same to me in regards to trying to lay claim to anything I did after termination. I responded, in writing, that I agreed in consideration of their request, that they would pay my hourly rate for forty hour weeks for five years in addition t...
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[05:57:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:2) 02Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:28] <exec> 08└─It cited inadequate pipeline capacity as the reason for the stoppage.
[05:57:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02nasty bit of obstruction there - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:30] <exec> 08└─Notice the whole story of the "Lockdown" article is that oil pipeline expansion has been successfully and indefinitely blocked politically, not that tar sand oil extraction is not viable. It's kind of like some Madison Avenue company bragging that environmentalism is dead because they made it too ha...
[05:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 1066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:41] <exec> 08└─The fact that modern languages tie your hands at compile time is exactly why they're crap for understanding what's going on. C is a good choice because you can get a compiler for a huge variety of platforms, it's close enough to the hardware that you can actually see what's going on there, but not s...
[05:57:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:42] <exec> 08└─Still, a background in assembly never hurt anyone intending to start a career in programming. You're not going to do any big projects in assembler, nobody does that these days, and truth be known nobody ever did. Being aware how many clocks an instruction takes, why you might shift instead of multip...
[05:57:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:48] <exec> 08└─Sigh, repeating things over and over again doesn't make them true. Poorly written Java is poorly performing Java just like any other language. Java doesn't have performance problems, hence why it's so popular with High-Frequency trading.
[05:57:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:50] <exec> 08└─Why is this flagged as flamebait? - It's a valid point. Decades ago - when optimizing compilers were less sophisticated - we always knew that it was useless to start optimizing little bits of code when optimizing the overall design would yield far greater benefits most of the time. I once worked on...
[05:57:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:52] <exec> 08└─I didn't mod the post, so I don't know for sure. My guess is because it's ignorant to suggest that an understanding of how the processor works is unnecessary. There's more diversity of processor now than there was in the past, but that doesn't mean that it's not a good idea to have some idea what ki...
[05:57:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:57:53] <exec> 08└─This is flamebait, but there's a real case to be made that the most important work most programmers do has nothing to do with the metal, and everything to do with *yuck* soft people skills *wretch*. Identifying what the requirements really mean and making what people need is often(but not ALWAYS) mo...
[05:57:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score:2) 02The CPU knows - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 1809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:57:55] <exec> 08└─Modern superscalar CPUs seem to have most of the knowledge a solid assembly programmer is able to put into his average project. Point in case: I wrote a dynamic recompiler for an exotic MIPS-like CPU into x86 so we could run our tests in real time on the build rig without resorting to using a cluste...
[05:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mainframes, Internet, Space program - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:34] <exec> 08└─The impetus for the most powerful computers in the world today came from unwashed nerds playing computer games in their mothers' basements. Don't believe me? - look up GPU. Even the CPUs today owe more to hobbyists than to governments or big business - if you look at the events in the 1970s.
[05:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:58:45] <exec> 08└─The trouble is science has value only in the long term.
[05:59:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Failed science spending as an example - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:59:08] <exec> 08└─Canada in the '70s and '80s insisted on primarily spending on scientific research that produced jobs and short-term economic benefits. The result was one of the crappiest R&D environments in the world. You could get funding for things like fiberglass coffins (science!!!) but not anything that was in...
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[07:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02So.... - 06Halloween Fun: Creating a BB-8 Star Wars Robot with Pumpkins and Arduino - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:17] <exec> 08└─I gather BB-8 is the newest Jar Jar Binks?
[07:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jan_jes [5825] (Score:1) 02Happy Halloween - 06Halloween Fun: Creating a BB-8 Star Wars Robot with Pumpkins and Arduino - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:18] <exec> 08└─Amazing idea!!! Halloween doodle video see this link https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[07:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:28] <exec> 08└─The interesting thing is that we have that paper by Oil Change International, which claims (or more accurately, their description of their paper): The pipelines exporting tar sands out of Alberta are almost full, according to new analysis by Oil Change International. Without major expansion-driving...
[07:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Speculative Execution - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:51] <exec> 08└─Is there any hardware offering a way to optimize if you have a prior idea of which branch of an if/then will be correct? For example, Metropolis Hastings algorithms often target ~25% accept vs 75% reject steps.
[07:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lies and damn lies. - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:29] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, the science of thermodynamics was kicked off by government subsidies in the 17th century. In particular, Robert Boyle was a Fellow of the Royal Society, funded by Charles II.
[07:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Mainframes, Internet, Space program - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:36] <exec> 08└─The impetus for the most powerful computers in the world today came from unwashed nerds playing computer games in their mothers' basements. Don't believe me? - look up GPU. Even the CPUs today owe more to hobbyists than to governments or big business - if you look at the events in the 1970s.
[07:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:47] <exec> 08└─"We do it not because it is easy... but because it is hard"
[07:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:50] <exec> 08└─Without having to worry about the next quarter's profits, they could and did spend millions on research that would never have had a chance of being funded by a profit minded corporation.
[07:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:52] <exec> 08└─Such private endowments and private funding from universities aren't meant to produce a profit. I don't think William Cavendish was too concerned about the kind of return on investment he would get from the endowment he gave Maxwell, and the people funding university laboratories likewise aren't so...
[07:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:54] <exec> 08└─Such private endowments and private funding from universities aren't meant to produce a profit.
[07:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:07] <exec> 08└─Note in the UK we are pretty successful at separating science from politics, cf Haldane principle. Can't say about anywhere else.
[07:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tech preceeds Science - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:08] <exec> 08└─Interesting, thank you for alerting me to this. Do you have a link to something on the Haldane principle beyond what wikipedia offers? The principle has remained enshrined in British Government policy, but has been criticised and altered over the years. In 1939 J.D. Bernal argued that social good wa...
[07:50:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02Re:Here's the summary - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 482 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:50:45] <exec> 08└─But one aspect still presents a serious security challenge on x86 platform: the boot security. Intel has introduced many competing and/or complementary technologies which are supposed to solve the problem of boot security: support for TPM and TXT, support for SMM sandboxing, finally Boot Guard and U...
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[08:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:16] <exec> 08└─There is an ever-increasing list of things that these proprietary software users do to abuse their users that make me glad to be using a free software OS. Not as many people would put up with this nonsense if proprietary software wasn't force-fed to them when they were kids and in school, or if so m...
[08:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:17] <exec> 08└─Enjoying systemd are you?
[08:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02I wish - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 1254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:19] <exec> 08└─I wish I could say this doesn't affect me. I've cut everyone else off of free tech support, but the wife has a Win7 machine. She's been having problems with it, I went trouble shooting today. It seems that her cheap-assed video card was the source of the problems. Upgraded to a GTX 460, it's like a...
[08:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wish - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:21] <exec> 08└─Anyway - I anticipate another hour or more before I can put her machine to bed. Screw Microsoft.
[08:45:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gnuman [5013] 02Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:37] <exec> 08└─It cited inadequate pipeline capacity as the reason for the stoppage.
[08:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:39] <exec> 08└─khallow, khallow, khallow! We talked about this, did we not? And did you not promise to stop posting erroneous and false information? Oh, you didn't? Well, alright then. Carry on.
[08:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02Re:Speculative Execution - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:46:04] <exec> 08└─On old CPUs (old as in '80s) branching usually took more cycles than not branching. So you might arrange your code so that conditional branches would usually fail. Of course, at the end of your loop there is always a branch back to the beginning of the loop that is likely to be taken. So later on, t...
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[09:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Of course we still learn. - 06Older Beats Younger When it Comes to Correcting Mistakes - 1561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:21] <exec> 08└─The problem is (for me at least) it takes more effort to learn. In my twenties, Uncle Sam would give me a manual, or some kind of training material. I read it, threw it in a locker, maybe I discussed it with a couple other guys, I might come back to the manual to double check a few things. The knowl...
[09:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:31] <exec> 08└─Honestly? I'm the impartial user and observer. I really don't care a whole lot about systemd. So far, it hasn't been proven to be "bad". It changes how you do some things, but it hasn't been proven to be either "bad" or "good". As a result, I haven't found reason to like it, or dislike it. Maybe nex...
[09:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:32] <exec> 08└─Proving system D is "good or bad" will never happen. Why? Because "good" and "bad," being moral-ethical terms, really have no relevance in this domain. However, to the neutral observer, there are always interesting points of discussion, if you only look for them. Consider this one that just popped u...
[09:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:34] <exec> 08└─SoylentNews: The only place where you can kvetch about Slashdot being a corporate instrument used by an evil megacorp, then vigorously defend the malignant SystemD in the same breath.
[09:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Going to turn off updates - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:38] <exec> 08└─I don't browse with ie, and due to other measures my exposure would be low in practice. So if ms all pulling bullshit like this it's safer to disable updates. One day they might make win 10 a critical update.
[09:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score:2) 02register pieces - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:22] <exec> 08└─This tedious code takes some bits out of a 32-bit word and packs them into a byte: lodsd mov ebx,eax mov edx,0x03 shr ebx,6 and edx,ebx mov eax,0x3C shr ebx,4 and eax,ebx add edx,eax shr ebx,6 mov eax,0xC0 and eax,ebx add eax,edx stosb This shorter code which also uses fewer registers is faster on a...
[09:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Japan - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:47:31] <exec> 08└─I am a scientist (synchrotron X-ray physics) who has travelled quite thoroughly and the only place I've seen where private companies invest big money on "blue sky" basic science is in Japan. The Japanese corporate culture is far more concerned with the long term than in the West. Although you could...
[09:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:False Dichotomy - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:49:01] <exec> 08└─the length of that lone long hair on your big toe... damn I'm exhausted.
[09:53:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Why just vintage, why not really old? - 06How Hipsters May be Bringing Back Vintage Language - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:53:24] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, and forsooth, I did overstate the point. Mayhaps I intended to say that a "made-up" language is one for which we possess no extant text? More a Classicist approach than that of an archaeolinguist, but one I would stick to. Are you saying that the completely fantastic created languages do...
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[10:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:29] <exec> 08└─To the pragmatist, "good" means it works well, and "bad" means it works poorly, or not at all. Nothing moral about it. Cheap gas pumped from dirty tanks is "bad", cheap gas pumped from clean tanks is "okay". Good quality gas pumped from clean tanks is "good". My car tells me so, and I believe it.
[10:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Informative) 02registry hack is supposed to block upgrade - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:45:34] <exec> 08└─http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-stop-windows-7-or-8-from-downloading-windows-10-automatically/ [howtogeek.com]
[10:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:37] <exec> 08└─We have a few dozen Pentium D-s (the core variant) that have no trouble running windows 7 but cannot be upgraded to 8 or 10, yet the upgrade nagger of course keeps alerting the users to upgrade. I do hope Microsoft will at least check the compatibility before wasting bandwidth.
[10:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Windows is coming - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:39] <exec> 08└─I can't wait to see the Redmond wedding.
[10:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:41] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 is free for the FIRST YEAR. After that, Microsoft plans to charge a "subscription" for it. Now how many laws are they breaking by forcing you to update and then forcing you to subscribe (or risk losing all your stuff).
[10:47:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:What a load of deliberately myopic horseshit - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 800 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:47:43] <exec> 08└─There are right now thousands of people that are fully qualified scientists who are instead working crappy non-science jobs or are unemployed. It's not like we have to somehow materialize scientists out of thin air, all we'd have to do is hire and supply scientists to do the research they are fully...
[10:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How much is enough? - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:35] <exec> 08└─enough military power to kill everyone just one time Across how many thousands of miles of ocean does USA have to project power to accomplish that? What exactly did the other guys do to piss off USA? Did they conduct an attack inside the territorial waters of the USA or attack one of USA's numerous...
[10:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who buys USA's debt? - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:48:37] <exec> 08└─I notice China in the top 3 buyers on your list. I also notice the absence of of any mention of Joe Average. What I said--as far as that went--is accurate. Now, there -was- a time when USAian workers were buying War Bonds and Savings Bonds and T Bills. These days? Not so much. Joe Average is having...
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[11:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:16] <exec> 08└─Content that was purchased with DRM may not play if the license can't be renewed.
[11:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03iwoloschin [3863] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:17] <exec> 08└─Wait, you actually purchased Zune music? Woah. Are you that dude with the Zune tattoo!?
[11:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Still wors - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:19] <exec> 08└─Now the Zune protective cover that protects your ipad from being stolen will even work better! You may find more information over at http://hideapod.com [hideapod.com] Thank you Microsoft for this great update to an old product.
[11:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:41] <exec> 08└─Not everything uses systemd, you know.
[11:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:45:49] <exec> 08└─Now, what they will do is release the latest development tools to business, which will begin releasing software that won't run on anything less than windows 10. Businesses, afraid of being called "behind the times", won't use the older tools that made compatible executables. Soon, we will not be abl...
[11:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03rufty [381] (Score:1) 02How bad is Windows 10? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:51] <exec> 08└─I've got a box that dual-boots Ubuntu14 and Windows7 for those times when a genuine, real-hardware-only windows box is needed for proprietary reflashing or such. So I boot to Windows for maybe an hour every other month. Is it worth my while fighting off the Windows 10 upgrade for this?
[11:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:47:18] <exec> 08└─the "government must do it all" philosophy that the world has swung to.
[11:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:51:15] <exec> 08└─Mostly the way you authenticate. Instead of having an api key that you simply had to keep stored securely, you have a public/private keypair that you have to keep stored securely and then you have to jump through several more hoops than before to authenticate with it. None of which are encryption th...
[11:51:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Battery-backed-up memory - 06Intel x86 Considered Harmful - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:51:34] <exec> 08└─3) But you can reset the BIOS by pulling the cell battery The coin cell on your motherboard keeps your CMOS from losing its marbles. BIOS is a completely different chip. -- gewg_
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[12:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:17] <exec> 08└─This is only the beginning. There are so many devices and services that limit the access to the stuff you "thought" you bought. All the infrastructure that needs to be kept alive. The same goes for games. The outcry will only start once enough junkies feel betrayed by the pusher. That would probably...
[12:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:18] <exec> 08└─But hey don't worry, you can always buy your entire collection again and again and again...
[12:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Bound to happen - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:21] <exec> 08└─Zuner or later. Heyo! What, too zune? :-)
[12:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Bound to happen - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:23] <exec> 08└─No comments about "squirt"? Thats about all I remember of the zune.
[12:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score:1) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:44] <exec> 08└─, what a passionate defense, sure sign of a shill
[12:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:registry hack is supposed to block upgrade - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:50] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the tip. The invasive telemetry updates that Microsoft had introduced to earlier operating systems were the straw that broke the camel's back for me; I might have otherwise been willing to give Windows 11 a chance in the unlikely event of a change in direction from the trash that is Windo...
[12:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:56] <exec> 08└─Windows 10 is free for the FIRST YEAR. After that, Microsoft plans to charge a "subscription" for it.
[12:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:How bad is Windows 10? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:45:59] <exec> 08└─"I've got a box that dual-boots Ubuntu14 and Windows7 for those times when a genuine, real-hardware-only windows box is needed for proprietary reflashing or such. So I boot to Windows for maybe an hour every other month. Is it worth my while fighting off the Windows 10 upgrade for this?" Well downlo...
[12:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:3, Informative) 02Mother Nature says... - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:19] <exec> 08└─...thanks! Of course, we're still gonna lose Miami: http://ss2.climatecentral.org [climatecentral.org]
[12:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:46:40] <exec> 08└─Besides, compilers nowadays are doing a better job in optimization than you would ever do by hand.
[12:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:26] <exec> 08└─You're aware we have several competing private space shot firms in existence at the moment, yes? Would they have come about without the prior government program? Who knows, but they can't simply be dismissed.
[12:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:43] <exec> 08└─About that. They did it is such a brute force way that going on fifty years later nobody is interested in repeating the work
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[13:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:26] <exec> 08└─I just guess that not many are that critical until it is too late.
[13:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:45:28] <exec> 08└─They are counting on the 14 zune owners being so embarrassed about their device choice that no one will actually come forward seeking any sort of damages.
[13:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:03] <exec> 08└─yep, in spite of knowing the nasty habits ms was doing with 10, when i got a new dy (i guess you guys read it upside down as 'hp') laptop of reasonable power/capabilities (8 megs, 1 tera, amd something something, blah blah blah), when it went ot update when i first turned it on, decided to roll the...
[13:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:04] <exec> 08└─(8 megs...
[13:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:09] <exec> 08└─Not according to my daughter. Since she's a Microsoft employee in a management position I think I'll trust her word over yours. It's "free" for a year.
[13:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:46:11] <exec> 08└─Or until they 'Zune' the whole thing. :)
[13:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Life time of the device" my ass - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:14] <exec> 08└─http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle [microsoft.com] Look here :) - Windows 10 is EOL in 2025 according to M$ themselves.
[13:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:42] <exec> 08└─i will only add this 'minor' aside: a dirty little secret which is almost NEVER mentioned, is that it is laundering dee-rug monies that keeps many a bankster afloat... cut off that leg of the stool, and the banksters fall over go boom... {which -surprise!- is EXACTLY and TOTALLY why many of those in...
[13:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:47:59] <exec> 08└─Also, if you read his speech at Rice, all his arguments for going to the moon work equally well as arguments for blowing up the moon, sending cloned dinosaurs into space, or constructing a towering penis-shaped obelisk on Mars. [xkcd.com]
[13:49:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Glossary - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 3336 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:10] <exec> 08└─The US Department of Defense The US Department of Offense USA hasn't done anything that could be considered defense since the Battle of New Orleans in 1815. Oh, BTW, that battle was fought after a peace treaty had been signed. We could dissolve DoD, and leave the actual defense of the country to the...
[13:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Children of the corn - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:49:17] <exec> 08└─Maybe OP sees slashdot as the once loving mother who found a new hubby and started neglecting the users now known as soylentils, but I am thinking too much into this.
[13:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03daaelar [5403] (Score:1) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:08] <exec> 08└─Oh, I'm not out to lynch a whole company on one sales rep. As I stated, I don't agree with Mr. Lutz that the company is doomed. I was simply offering a counterpoint to the parent post. There can be both good and bad people at the same company and that doesn't mean the whole company is rotten. Howeve...
[13:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03daaelar [5403] (Score:1) 02Re:And yet... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:51:10] <exec> 08└─I really wish some of these automakers would start selling outside of California. I live in NJ and there's plenty of folks here who would like to have full EVs. Two of my neighbors drive Volts and many others drive various Toyota/Lexus hybrids. Unfortunately, most of the full plug-in or even alterna...
[13:52:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Is this the right room for an argument? - 06A Few Apple Stories to Argue About - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:52:51] <exec> 08└─Having that much cash has been very helpful to Apple though. It allowed them, when flash supply was tight, to go to manufacturers and say that they would pay up-front for the factories to be built, as long as they got 100% of the output at a steep discount for a few years. This was why, for a while,...
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[14:45:31] <exec> 08└─PlaysForSure
[14:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:45:34] <exec> 08└─"I just guess that not many are that critical until it is too late." We're eventually going to see this with "Cloud" computing, too.
[14:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03cellocgw [4190] (Score:1) 02Ha ha Told you so - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:42] <exec> 08└─Ha ha ha to all the (5) suckers who bought a Zune. I have an iPod and have yet to buy a DRMed track or to store "my" recordings in anyone else's "cloud." Same goes for my ebook readers. I don't buy DRMed books, and make sure to run all my family's purchased books thru pycrypto scripts so that our b...
[14:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I feel cheated - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:43] <exec> 08└─They should give me a season's pass to Clippers home games.
[14:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:15] <exec> 08└─Some of us are forced to use it no matter how much we hate it. I have to have Word, because magazines all demand that format for story submissions.
[14:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, I did that "upgrade" too. It took most of the day to download and install and was only on this notebook for two hours. Fugly ugly interface, slow as molasses, advertising for Microsoft services and software in the damned start menu, and I saw no increased functionality at all. Now the God damne...
[14:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:How bad is Windows 10? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:25] <exec> 08└─NO! It is NOT worthwhile. Windows 10 is a steaming pile.
[14:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:46:47] <exec> 08└─I also like how I'm accused of posting "false information" and the only thing I've done is quote somebody else's opinion as opinion.
[14:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:03] <exec> 08└─Still, a background in assembly never hurt anyone intending to start a career in programming.
[14:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02My first coding job - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 1067 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:17] <exec> 08└─was writing assembly for the 8086. I quickly learned the chip had 2 units: the execution unit and the bus interface unit. The BIU was responsible for all memory access, instruction and data. The EU took that data and executed it. I was soon rearranging my assembly steps to ensure the BUI always had...
[14:47:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Silly me - 06Tor .onion Names Reserved by IETF - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:41] <exec> 08└─I had just assumed this was done as soon as they started opening TLDs up.
[14:50:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Uh huh... - 06Bob Lutz Thinks Tesla is Doomed - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:50:57] <exec> 08└─That's an ACTUAL Tesla store. It's not the FANTASY Tesla store that Lutz assumes Tesla must have, because that's what traditional car companies have (through their dealers).
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[15:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:05] <exec> 08└─Here's a real-world systemd failure I find completely unacceptable: I discovered that I could render my systemd-based system unbootable by unplugging a PS/2 mouse that had been previously used on the system. And this wasn't unbootable as in "error on boot, and dropped to a maintenance console" or "d...
[15:46:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:I wish - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 96 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:10] <exec> 08└─Anyway - I anticipate another hour or more before I can put her machine to bed. Screw Microsoft.
[15:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:18] <exec> 08└─This is the problem - I would dump Windows completely if I could, but my SatNav will only update from a Windows machine because their website is designed that way. So, I have to keep one windows machine around just for that task every few months of updating my SatNav. I've tried it in a VM, it just...
[15:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The articles from customers forced to download 3GB - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:30] <exec> 08└─Here's the first report of users mysteriously finding that they downloaded 3 GB, perhaps over their metered connection [theregister.co.uk]: One Reg reader got in touch to complain: "Customers using hosted services are really struggling with the competition for bandwidth – effectively taking them o...
[15:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Jeez - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:31] <exec> 08└─I've been watching the Microsoft trainwreck from the sidelines since Windows 98, which with very few exceptions has only gotten worse. When Vista came along I thought for sure that would be Redmond's Waterloo. Then they outdid themselves with 8, and now this. Is playing a few games at home really wo...
[15:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Plus - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:46:53] <exec> 08└─If/when sanctions are lifted, Iranian oil will flood the international market.
[15:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 3582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:47:10] <exec> 08└─I like optimizing, it's fun, and I'm pretty good at assembler, but I have to agree with the original poster that in most cases, it's not the best use of your time to optimize at the assembly language level. That really only pays dividends in heavily used code that has already been optimized in every...
[15:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:48:07] <exec> 08└─No, they wouldn't have. At bare minimum the risks involved with human space flight would have ensured that it never got started. As it stands they got to benefit from decades of space travel and the resultant disasters. The problem they haven't isn't figuring out how to do it, the problem is figurin...
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[16:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:15] <exec> 08└─This proves that a chemical designed to indiscriminately kill insects actually indiscriminately kills insects. Who'd have thunk huh? But it's good to see this idea now has an official scientific stamp of approval, it helps to force certain governments to actually do something useful about the situat...
[16:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 1142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:16] <exec> 08└─Let's look at humans. There are all sorts of chemicals and crap that irritate humans. Pregnant humans are often more sensitive to these irritants than other humans. Pregnant humans often seem to suffer more from these irritants than other humans. Pregnant humans also experience a risk to their offsp...
[16:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:13] <exec> 08└─blimey :-) You'd expect busybox to work everywhere, under all circumstances. I wonder what the systemdfanbois did to annoy busybox project members.
[16:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:15] <exec> 08└─Ya know what? I've experienced just about the same thing. So - how did you determine that was the fault of systemd? My experience with failing to boot was blamed on kernel 4.2. I attempted to install 4.2 repeatedly both in Debian and in Arch, and every time, I met with failure. I finally managed to...
[16:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:19] <exec> 08└─I'm enjoying having a systemd-free Linux system, thankyouverymuch. It was a lot of work, but I'm glad it paid off. Did you know that, if you have a basket full of crabs, the crabs that try to escape are pulled back into the basket by the others?
[16:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:31] <exec> 08└─whoring for karma, but the phrase "they are not the same any more... :(" was not expected to me in context of M$... Even Bill had some honour :DDD
[16:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:37] <exec> 08└─If that's true aren't you risking her job by violating her NDA?
[16:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:39] <exec> 08└─When do the subscription costs start? 1 year after the install or 1 year after the 1st day of the release and option to accept the offer?
[16:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The articles from customers forced to download - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:47] <exec> 08└─You can't buy a single Win 10 enterprise seat. You can buy a MSDN subscription for a few K though and obtain the enterprise version that way, or just use TPB.
[16:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:So.... - 06Halloween Fun: Creating a BB-8 Star Wars Robot with Pumpkins and Arduino - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:46:56] <exec> 08└─BB-8 wasn't created by Lucas.
[16:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:earlier story about SHA-1 - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:47:49] <exec> 08└─Your story is about as helpful as ROT13 is for encryption.
[16:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Children of the corn - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah I considered 'Refugees of Slashdot' but that would have opened a whole different can of worms. :)
[16:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Decisions / Information - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:50:20] <exec> 08└─Objectivity is always available even with a subjective choice.
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[17:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score:2) 02Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:13] <exec> 08└─If you need yet another reason never to use this OS, look no further. Yes, I'm aware some CNC machines require Windows and are functionally useless on other operating systems. If that is your situation, in addition to requiring all new purchases work on free operating systems, freaking air gap any c...
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:24] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately it does require a study. First, it is the scientific way to verify hypotheses with experimentation, but most importantly, politically, it provides proof that regulators can use against companies fighting any bans againsts pesticides. It is common practice for companies to use FUD to pr...
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02No problem. - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:25] <exec> 08└─<troll> Americans can buy exclusive American Apples(TM), where every single apple is pollinated by hand using a little paintbrush. Or they can buy fruit from Europe, where the governments overruled the agrobiz in this case, and applied the precautionary principle [wikipedia.org]. </troll>
[17:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score:1) 02Awesome - 06Scientists Call for U.S. and International Microbiome Initiatives - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:33] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a great idea to me. Though some might argue that it would be better to let private industry do it [soylentnews.org] and then own the benefits because profit!
[17:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome - 06Scientists Call for U.S. and International Microbiome Initiatives - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:35] <exec> 08└─Too bad the research will be done by a bunch of people who "hate math", dont like replication because "it was done before", and think a significant pvalue means thier theory only capable of predicting A bigger than B is true. Until those problems are addressed, this is Just more jobs program pseudos...
[17:45:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:49] <exec> 08└─Content that was purchased with DRM may not play if the license can't be renewed.
[17:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I feel cheated - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:02] <exec> 08└─Tickets to the Cubs World Series games.
[17:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02good to see - 06Older Beats Younger When it Comes to Correcting Mistakes - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:11] <exec> 08└─Encouraging to see these sort of assumptions scientifically investigated, testing the theories with experiments that can give unexpected results rather than just confirm the bias like many age related research you see reported in the popular press seems to do. Like any critical thinker, I would pref...
[17:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:46:53] <exec> 08└─They could charge a "subscription" to NOT install Windows 10.
[17:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score:2) 02Re:Jeez - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:01] <exec> 08└─I've been watching the Microsoft trainwreck from the sidelines since Windows 98, which with very few exceptions has only gotten worse.
[17:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mother Nature says... - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:47:28] <exec> 08└─Losing Miami is an overall win for humanity.
[17:48:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] 02Re:Yeah, okay... - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 200 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:34] <exec> 08└─Wall Street Journal is a pretty awesome read when you stay away from the political shit. It's like the New York Times without the two arts sections and like the Los Angeles Times without the Mexicans.
[17:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Lies and damn lies. - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:38] <exec> 08└─It may be an "interesting twist", but it is accurate. You should instead wonder why the author of that link felt the need to spin almost completely out of whole cloth a dependency on government-funded vacuum research. The real obstacle was machining parts well enough to seal against high pressure ga...
[17:48:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:44] <exec> 08└─No, they wouldn't have. At bare minimum the risks involved with human space flight would have ensured that it never got started.
[17:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:48:49] <exec> 08└─What did that poor strawman ever do to you?
[17:49:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:$55 billion is an obscene amount - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 2357 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:49:55] <exec> 08└─I would rather pay people to sit at home playing XBOX and selling weed, then building huge bomber fleets that *also* magically make billionaires back here at home. Dunno about other people, but I have always found it intensely abhorrent that ANY American gets paid millions of dollars to contribute t...
[17:50:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02Children of the corn - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 76 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:50:17] <exec> 08└─Children of slashdot???? WTF? I just Soyled myself: was this copy and paste?
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[18:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:16] <exec> 08└─If the OS weren't Windows it'd still get infected - just with something else designed for another target. There's money to be made, so people will find a way.
[18:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:17] <exec> 08└─As bad as windows is, and it's pretty bad, I tend to think we'd have malware problems just as severe on other platforms. OS X has terrible security, for example. Linux would take time, because of all the distros' different configurations, but that wouldn't take too long for someone to make a statica...
[18:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:19] <exec> 08└─because of all the distros' different configurations
[18:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:20] <exec> 08└─A lot of windows malware is running entirely ring3, that's enough for basic keylogging, stealth and phoning home. In linux you could target the various user writeable init scripts and config files for much the same effect, if the attacker is after banking details ring3/userland is all they'll ever n...
[18:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Proof is Good - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:30] <exec> 08└─Yes. We must immediately start doing research on creating GM bee's that don't need a queen.
[18:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Re:A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 1486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:33] <exec> 08└─I'll never forget staring at the television a few years ago with incredulity as the broadcasted news anchor described, with a perfectly straight face, the release of a new study that concluded eating fresh fruits and vegetables was beneficial to your health. These types of studies are not released f...
[18:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 948 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:34] <exec> 08└─"These types of studies are not released for sane individuals." That's kinda scary, when you think about it. What is sane, anyway? When 98 out of 100 people eat this shit up, if they even bother to watch/read/listen to the news, does that mean that we're the insane ones? And, that's not even a parti...
[18:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:1) 02Plays for Sure - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:12] <exec> 08└─Wasn't that the slogan? Us crooks like to use a physical CD, cdparanoia, oggenc and flac. Really does play - forever.
[18:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:46:53] <exec> 08└─*Word* is your reason you need to run Windows?! LibreOffice doesn't do the job well enough?
[18:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Jeez - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:13] <exec> 08└─When the software they use migrates to *nix.
[18:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:So.... - 06Halloween Fun: Creating a BB-8 Star Wars Robot with Pumpkins and Arduino - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:23] <exec> 08└─Nevertheless, the appearance of a small cute robot in a Star Wars movie raises suspicion.
[18:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:47:56] <exec> 08└─C is vastly informative and useful AFTER you've learned an assembler. Beforehand, not so much. Something like the i6502 is a sufficient assembler to learn. MIX might be even better. It introduces all the basic concepts clearly. C is only clear in this way AFTER you already understand what is happeni...
[18:48:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Totally incorrect - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 456 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:22] <exec> 08└─The summary is incorrect. You can't crack an SHA-1 signature, not even with all the computing power in the world. The authors found another type of collision attack against SHA-1. There are still no preimage attacks against SHA-1. In other words, it is possible to make two pieces of data that have t...
[18:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:58] <exec> 08└─I take it you haven't hard of OSHA or the various equivalents in other countries. The US and USSR were able to put people in space because military personnel don't have the same rights that the rest of us do. Yes, it's easier to make it more cost effective than it is to make the first ones. Notice h...
[18:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Who funded the universities? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:48:59] <exec> 08└─I take it you haven't hard of OSHA or the various equivalents in other countries. The US and USSR were able to put people in space because military personnel don't have the same rights that the rest of us do.
[18:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:20] <exec> 08└─If you want to think things through, a huge amount of the investment in "man on the moon" was designed to show that we could hit anyplace on earth with ICBMs. It was overkill for that purpose. but it did the job WITH public support. Developing overkill weapons systems wouldn't have had nearly the po...
[18:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:23] <exec> 08└─Western Electric was profit minded. Bell Labs was concerned with spending the budget they got from Western Electric every year. Certainly they had to produce results, patents were expected, etc., but an awful lot of research went on there that never would have happened in a company without guarantee...
[18:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Would YOU do it? - 06The Myth of Basic Science - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:49:25] <exec> 08└─Western Electric was profit minded. Bell Labs was concerned with spending the budget they got from Western Electric every year.
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[19:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02air gap - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:26] <exec> 08└─http://gstylemag.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/SanDisk-Ultra-Dual-Drive-USB-3-1.jpg [netdna-cdn.com] http://www.technobezz.com [technobezz.com] https://upload.wikimedia.org
[19:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I get the picture - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:27] <exec> 08└─Those images are overkill!
[19:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:1) 02Re:A bit on the silly side? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:41] <exec> 08└─"That's kinda scary, when you think about it." Obligatory Calvin and Hobbes, and just in time for the season: http://i.imgur.com [imgur.com]
[19:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Building Skynet piece by piece - 06A Drone with a Sense of Direction - 848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:59] <exec> 08└─GPS enabled drones can be programmed to fly GPS routes. That's been built into mid-range consumer grade drones for quite a while. Inside of buildings this becomes problematic at best. Even outside trees and buildings between launch point and GPS encoded destinations have to be manually dealt with by...
[19:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:15] <exec> 08└─Are you sure? Who tells you that one day you will not be able to buy your beloved classic again "because of too little demand" (that is, because they'd rather sell you the newest crap, as that gives them more profit)?
[19:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:16] <exec> 08└─Would not be a problem if copyright expired in the average person's lifetime.
[19:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Bound to happen - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:22] <exec> 08└─So it has come to this: the last squirt for Zune! Looks like I'm going to have to buy the White Album again.
[19:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:1) 02Does this mean Mr. Ballmer - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:28] <exec> 08└─will finally stop squirting [pastiche.org] at me?
[19:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Not my problem - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:46:52] <exec> 08└─Proving system D is "good or bad" will never happen. Why? Because "good" and "bad," being moral-ethical terms, really have no relevance in this domain.
[19:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:09] <exec> 08└─Sounds like ActiveX refuses to die. Is it possible to get a better navigation system?
[19:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:13] <exec> 08└─mcgrew, you know that LibreOffice has this neat utility, called "save as" where you can specify saving in MS Word format? Several of them, in fact. For documents that are mostly text, it is likely to be cleaner than a file produced but an authentic spying copy of Word.
[19:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:24] <exec> 08└─A "subscription" to NOT install? I think the proper term is "extortion". " Nice Windows 7 machine ya got there. Be a shame if something were to happen to it."
[19:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02GWX Control Panel - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:34] <exec> 08└─I haven't seen a link to this yet in the comments so I figured I'd drop one off. I've been running this preemptively on every machine I touch. I suspect when they change the updates priority to "recommended" that it'll catch an update to snag the new KB. But for now, gets rid of the nag screen and p...
[19:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:nasty bit of obstruction there - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:47:59] <exec> 08└─With the current low oil prices, tar sand production is not viable as it is expensive to extract. The companies still producing synthetic oil from tar are doing it at a lose, based on it's better to have some income then none and the hope that things will improve. As for efficient infrastructure, th...
[19:48:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:17] <exec> 08└─I can only imagine your concept of a big project is different than mine. Unless you consider IBM's VM operating system to be a small project? It was written entirely in assembler, or at least the parts of it that I worked on — system config, scheduler, dispatcher, free storage manager, etc. Wikipe...
[19:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:20] <exec> 08└─but it's beyond ridiculous to suggest that having your hands tied at compile time is a good thing
[19:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Not needed, thank you - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:48:29] <exec> 08└─Plus, leaving behind code that other people can understand.
[19:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:The next F-35 boondoggle - 06Northrop Wins $55bn Contract for Next-Gen Bomber – as America Says Bye-Bye to B-52 - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:50:47] <exec> 08└─Because the production lines were shuttered before most of us were even born. The tooling is long gone, and even the factory building itself is now shut down (it had been producing 767s and the related KC-46s). They may not even have production blueprints anymore (only maintenance blueprints). So re...
[19:51:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Define "intuition" - 06Decision Making — Use Your Intuition or Reason? - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:51:28] <exec> 08└─Okay, so define "intuition" ... ... oh, wait, you can't. Is intuition the cumulative weight of experience, such as when I "know" where to look for a bug because I've seen it so many times before? If so, then that's just distilled reason. Is "intuition" like the guy above who flipped a coin?
[19:53:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DonkeyChan [5551] (Score:1) 02Re:Poll the BTC daemon - 06SoylentNews Bitpay on the Fritz - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:53:27] <exec> 08└─Seems like they just added a layer of esoteric hoops for nearly no reason. No encryption!? ffs...
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[20:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Navy - 06Coating Cancels Acoustic Scattering from Odd-shaped Objects - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:20] <exec> 08└─I can see why the Navy would want a sonar defeating coatings. What is interesting here is that hydrophone enclosures cabling significantly interfere with what they were trying to listen to. Coating those components can drastically reduce this.
[20:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:32] <exec> 08└─Actually he was talking about a static-linked binary. Such a thing has everything it needs to run, and need not rely on anything other than what the kernel provides for access to hardware. No external libraries. Such a binary would run on any kernal-compatible linux regardles of distro. Such package...
[20:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:34] <exec> 08└─As bad as windows is, and it's pretty bad, I tend to think we'd have malware problems just as severe on other platforms. OS X has terrible security, for example.
[20:45:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Windows does it again - 06South Korean Manufacturing Industry Targeted With New Backdoor Program - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:45:36] <exec> 08└─I was going to suggest that this exploit, described with the following capabilities: opens a back door through which attackers can gather system information; create, list and kill processes; access, modify and delete files; execute commands and more...
[20:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:20] <exec> 08└─No, it doesn't. If all you want is a basic WP with a terrible GUI then Libre works. (most of the time - I have had issues in the past)
[20:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03unzombied [4572] (Score:2) 02transfer techniques (OT) - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:24] <exec> 08└─Just curious to find out from someone who's done it a lot: you find copy/pasting LibreOffice to Word easier to clean up than SaveAs .docx format in LibreOffice then opening in Word?
[20:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:33] <exec> 08└─What makes you think there is an NDA on already launched products?
[20:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:34] <exec> 08└─By saying that some unspecified daughter of his told him all this? How are they going to magically figure out her identity? And NDAs should be completely unenforceable.
[20:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:nasty bit of obstruction there - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:13] <exec> 08└─With the current low oil prices, tar sand production is not viable as it is expensive to extract.
[20:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:35] <exec> 08└─That's ridiculous. You can write bad code in any language. This is more or less exactly the same problem as insurance. Insurance doesn't make people any safer either, it just gives people license to do things that are more reckless than what they would have had to do, because there's something there...
[20:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:A classic argument.... - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:48:36] <exec> 08└─That's ridiculous. You can write bad code in any language. This is more or less exactly the same problem as insurance. Insurance doesn't make people any safer either, it just gives people license to do things that are more reckless than what they would have had to do, because there's something there...
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[21:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Woo! - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:15] <exec> 08└─I have nothing really else to add, but seriously: woo!
[21:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:16] <exec> 08└─"How long before we discover signals from..." It is presumptuous to assume that the communication from an alien civilization is detectable with current technology. Our own signals are purely EM-based and even they are getting more noisy all the time to use bandwidth more effectively. Any good alien...
[21:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02exosubject - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:18] <exec> 08└─Now that finding exoplanets is only mildly interesting, the next big step is analyzing their atmospheres to determine if any of them have life. That will happen long before any alien broadcasts are detected. The 5,000 figure includes "likely" exoplanets. We may be up to 2,000 confirmed soon: http://...
[21:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:exosubject - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:45:20] <exec> 08└─analyzing their atmospheres to determine if any of them have life. That will happen long before any alien broadcasts are detected.
[21:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02overturned - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:22] <exec> 08└─The big upset that overtuned everthing was the demoting of pluto. The horizon probe is now proving pluto IS a planet.
[21:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Eww - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:23] <exec> 08└─51 Peg b threw a big splash of reality in their faces.
[21:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome - 06Scientists Call for U.S. and International Microbiome Initiatives - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:11] <exec> 08└─If they get 10% of the budget that the Human Brain Project is getting, they can hire a few statisticians.
[21:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome - 06Scientists Call for U.S. and International Microbiome Initiatives - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:12] <exec> 08└─When I first started sensing something was wrong during grad school I went to see the statistician. He told me basically: "Yep, everything is messed up. It is impossible to change things here and any stats adviser that doesn't go with the flow gets fired. I've heard it is just as bad everywhere else...
[21:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:46:39] <exec> 08└─This is why I typically don't buy any DRMed shit, especially if the DRMed shit isn't the company's main bread and butter. Anyone who was still buying music on Zune after Microsoft shut off it's Plays For Sure game servers was probably asking for this. Wal-mart did the same kind of thing with their o...
[21:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:47] <exec> 08└─It's not my word; it's every pronouncement Microsoft has made on the subject so far. This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost.
[21:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:49] <exec> 08└─What was that? Sorry, I zuned out for a second. Hah! The things I do with words...
[21:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"Life time of the device" my ass - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:47:57] <exec> 08└─When a company says that, they mean what they expect your machine's lifetime to be, not yours. And you can be assured they don't expect it to live anywhere near as long as you've seen it live.
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[22:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:16] <exec> 08└─Well, it's not the government doing it, so it's not really censorship.</sarcasm>
[22:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:17] <exec> 08└─# OMG! They are trying to censor the Sad Puppies! Look! They just erased my hashtag!
[22:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:19] <exec> 08└─Whoa now, that hash tag is exactly where you left it. The string of characters after it, though, is in a classified location for processing. Move along, netizen!
[22:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, the government is certainly not the only one who can censor information. It's like some people think that censorship is always necessarily bad or not allowed, so private companies must be incapable of it, but that is a misunderstanding of what qualifies as censorship. Censorship can be immoral...
[22:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:31] <exec> 08└─Aren't sufficiently encrypted communications indistinguishable from noise?
[22:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02New technology - 06Coating Cancels Acoustic Scattering from Odd-shaped Objects - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:44] <exec> 08└─Fixing coatings to surfaces? How exactly is this different from sticking egg trays and foam rubber pyramids on the walls and ceiling, as we used to do when I worked in recording studios, 30 years ago?
[22:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Purpose of nicotine? - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:16] <exec> 08└─I googled around for nicotine and tobacco pollination and apparently tobacco doesn't have much use for bees, so nicotine-family chemicals screwing up bees is a feature, not a bug (oh the pun) for tobacco.
[22:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I hate DRM so much. - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:55] <exec> 08└─Well, you did know when you purchased the music that: 1) the downloaded files had DRM that needed to be validated against Microsoft's servers 2) the terms that you licensed the files under included a term indicating that these servers could stop working, either temporarily or permanently, with no re...
[22:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of course we still learn. - 06Older Beats Younger When it Comes to Correcting Mistakes - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:13] <exec> 08└─and I'd want the manual available when I approached the equipment That is your experience working for you. You are not as confident in your abilities so you second guess yourself. You want the manual for when it goes sideways. What I have found is I skim badly. I always have. It let me get away with...
[22:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the brightest - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:48] <exec> 08└─Is it possible to get a better navigation system?
[22:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Is that even legal? - 06Microsoft Preparing to Force-Feed Windows 10 via "Recommended" Windows Update - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:48:02] <exec> 08└─If he's talking about MS's unannounced plans, then yes, there certainly is an NDA.
[22:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Speculative Execution - 06A Journey Through the CPU Pipeline - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:49:19] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I was wondering if it possible for me to do something like this: If (x < y, 0.25) { A=5 }else{ A=1 }
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[23:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ummm - 06Modern Art Was CIA 'Weapon' - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:18] <exec> 08└─Not real sure how to take this. They were promoting American values of 'Independence and imagination', but for the wrong reasons.
[23:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:30] <exec> 08└─It's like some people think that censorship is always necessarily bad or not allowed, so private companies must be incapable of it
[23:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:line 1, column 80: stray end tag - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 1373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:31] <exec> 08└─You also need to understand that for a small but vocal minority freedom of speech has been seriously deemphasized in favor of emotional comfort (safe spaces) and inclusivity--which is a stalking horse for bullying anyone deemed to be tainted by "privilege". They are very much in favor of drawing a l...
[23:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02SJW's at it again - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:33] <exec> 08└─What kind of person doesn't love puppies? What kind of person kicks puppies? Well, that's tolerance for you!
[23:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:35] <exec> 08└─Twitter is not a government. It's not even an ISP. You post your twatty bits on their system at their pleasure. Twitter really make people dumber, don't they.
[23:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Shut up - 06New Twitter Features Re-ignite Censorship Concerns - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:36] <exec> 08└─If nobody complains about corporate censorship, it will continue to happen. If Twitter pisses off enough users, it goes under. Advertisers may be the customers, but users still matter.
[23:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:48] <exec> 08└─Encryption done correctly is noise at the interpretation level without the decryption key. There is, at the transmission's EM level, still has a distinguishable carrier wave. However, the carrier becomes less and less prominent due to frequency hopping and no single one is immediately seen. But that...
[23:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumption of knowledge - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 2296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:49] <exec> 08└─FTL is a chimera. It may not be possible, probably isn't, and more importantly, what does anyone really need it for? Because colonization of the galaxy is unbearably slow without FTL? Yet colonization is still conceivable. We are really very young, and extremely impatient. Civilization has existed f...
[23:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:exosubject - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 1716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:52] <exec> 08└─We can look for atmospheric signatures that imply photosynthesis. If the technologies improve enough, we could directly image planets to look for continents, oceans, vegetation, etc. http://www.space.com [space.com] Although water covers mos...
[23:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:1) 02Re:exosubject - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:54] <exec> 08└─although if intelligent life 15 light years away detected our broadcasts and sent a directed and powerful response
[23:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:overturned - 06From 0 to 5,000 Planets in Exactly 20 Years - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:56] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter whether we call Pluto a planet, and the Kepler mission is going to have a much bigger legacy than New Horizons.
[23:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem. - 06Landmark Study: Honeybee Queens Severely Affected by Neonicotinoid Pesticides - 1444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:38] <exec> 08└─You self-marked it as troll, but what is trolling about the actual truth again? "American Apples(TM)" would be exclusive. If we don't have intellectual property, we don't have anything anymore. God knows where we are getting this intellectual property too with brain drain going on for a couple of de...
[23:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Ha ha Told you so - 06Zune Music Service to Close - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:24] <exec> 08└─Yes, I wonder about people who believe large corporations when they promise the impossible. DRM that must be constantly unlocked by remote servers will one day fail. Did anyone really believe that the authenticating servers will be up forever? Or even a mere 95 years plus, whenever copyright finally...
[23:49:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not pipeline related - 06Shell to Halt Tar Sands Project - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:06] <exec> 08└─I had meant to revise "as the reason" to "among the reasons"; I apologise for forgetting to correct that. The CEO did mention "managing affordability and exposure in the current world of lower oil prices" in his statement. When there isn't enough pipeline capacity, oil can be moved by train, but at...
[23:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:earlier story about SHA-1 - 06Many American Military Sites and Intermediate Certificates Secured with Dud SHA-1 Cipher - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:49:57] <exec> 08└─Hmm, I am not sure what happened to my link. There were at least two earlier stories. one story [soylentnews.org] another story [soylentnews.org]
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