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[00:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Coincidence! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:41] <exec> 08└─CenturyLink buys L3 and L3 immediately shits the bed! Coincidence I THINK NOT! So glad I am out of telecom. Those return to service meetings are hell.
[00:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Update? - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:43] <exec> 08└─The last sentence yesterday is the last sentence today Ars will update this report as more information becomes available.
[00:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02These systems should be locked down - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:56] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the hospital systems have things like direct Internet access, and the ability to mount devices/drives. These systems should be very hardened, and on their own network to make this type of situation very difficult. If you can pop open your Social Media, email, etc. on your Registr...
[00:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:These systems should be locked down - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:57] <exec> 08└─It could be more interesting than that. I saw one place I was looking for work. MFC/C++ was one of the requirements to get the job. Hospitals and health workers are notoriously conservative and slow on the upgrade. Would not surprised me if they have win2k boxes kicking around as mainline production...
[00:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iron meteorite - 06Curiosity Mars Rover Checks Odd-Looking Iron Meteorite - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:29] <exec> 08└─Like rain or your wedding day?
[00:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Found others - 06Curiosity Mars Rover Checks Odd-Looking Iron Meteorite - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:34] <exec> 08└─Not the first time nor the first rover: http://mars.nasa.gov [nasa.gov]
[00:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 0 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
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[00:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''it won't happen before''... - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:21] <exec> 08└─Step 1 will need to be a federal judge ruling that the Commission on Presidential Debates is an illegal anti-competitive anti-democracy monopoly and that their rules (which get more elastic as 3rd parties meet their already-ridiculous thresholds) are unconstitutional. I don't think that anyone shoul...
[00:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:25] <exec> 08└─It's actually mathematically provable - this was done a few years ago - that our electoral system will result in a two-party oligopoly. It is a literal inevitability. The first and most importan 1000 t solution, now that we know this is a reality and not just unfortunate chance, is to break the syst...
[00:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:27] <exec> 08└─It's actually mathematically provable - this was done a few years ago - that our electoral system will result in a two-party oligopoly. It is a literal inevitability.
[00:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Democrats [relocate more] than Republicans'' - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:32] <exec> 08└─So, the claim is that "White flight" is less about the party that switched sides of the political divide to what -had- been called "The Party of Lincoln" after those folks were already calling themselves "Dixiecrats". ...and is instead more about the party that passed The Civil Rights Act of 1964 an...
[00:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 1877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:12] <exec> 08└─Individual liberty - like how they want to ban your right to defend yourself, the most important and fundamental right? Doesn't hold water. This is an outlier. The new Democrats are stronger on gun-rights than traditional Democrats were. There is a non-insignificant block of OIF/OEF Vets running for...
[00:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:16] <exec> 08└─The signature legislation of the past eight years was Obamacare. Which even major players in the Libertarian Party favored because: Namely, it frees more Americans to take better jobs without worrying about losing the health care plan they had in their old jobs. Worker mobility is one of the things...
[00:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Touché) 02Umm... - 06Survey Finds 75% of Security Execs Believe they are INVINCIBLE - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:46] <exec> 08└─a third of those successful breaches are never discovered at all.
[00:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Is Andy Greenberg A Moron... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:15] <exec> 08└─Let me explain. According to the article you linked, the provision about voting machines won't take effect until after this month's elections. Hence the fruits of such research won't be available prior to those elections, which is unfortunate.
[00:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Is Andy Greenberg A Moron... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:16] <exec> 08└─Let me explain. According to the article you linked, the provision about voting machines won't take effect until after this month's elections. Hence the fruits of such research won't be available prior to those elections, which is unfortunate.
[00:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Is Andy Greenberg A Moron... - 06It’s Finally Legal to Hack Your Own Devices (Even Your Car) - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:18:18] <exec> 08└─The text of the exemption for vehicles reads as follows: Computer programs that are contained in and control the functioning of a motorized land vehicle such as a personal automobile, commercial motor vehicle or mechanized agricultural vehicle, e 1e14 xcept for computer programs primarily designed f...
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[01:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Couldn't connect to MW3 servers all morning - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:48] <exec> 08└─Quit trying about noon, but gotta wonder if this is why. Yeah, I still play MW3 on my PS3. Yeah, I've got lots of newer games with multiplayer, and I still think MW3 is the best one out there. Except for the vast number of cheaters, it takes 4-5 tries to find a game without an obvious cheater in it....
[01:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Couldn't connect to MW3 servers all morning - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:49] <exec> 08└─MW3 = Modern Warfare 3, not MechWarriors 3. I keep forgetting the other exists until I say MW3 and start a MechWarrior discussion.
[01:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Couldn't connect to MW3 servers all morning - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:52] <exec> 08└─Oh look it's another Call of Duty player. Please tell us how you support Our Troops, you approve of the continued existence of the Department of Homeland Security, you voted for more Terrorism, and you believe every traveler should be anally raped by TSA agents.
[01:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Couldn't connect to MW3 servers all morning - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:54] <exec> 08└─I relax playing video games. What does that have to do with anything you mentioned? Oh, right. You're an AC, I should ignore you.
[01:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Couldn't connect to MW3 servers all morning - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:56] <exec> 08└─Call of Duty is a terrorism simulator and a recruitment tool, you tool. By playing terrorism simulators, you implicitly approve of the politics of the Bush Doctrine: America fucking the world for profit.
[01:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Precious Bread and Circuses!!!!! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:58] <exec> 08└─The outage had no major impact on major streaming services that use Level 3, including Netflix and the HBO Go mobile application.
[01:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Precious Bread and Circuses!!!!! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:00] <exec> 08└─The Woz is still with us.
[01:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Precious Bread and Circuses!!!!! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:02] <exec> 08└─Burrell Smith! Burrell Smith!!!!! Bbbbbbbburrell Smith!!!!!!! **lobs rocks**
[01:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Incorrect title - 06Study Confirms that Stellar Novae are the Main Source of Lithium in the Universe - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:36] <exec> 08└─The original article uses the term "nova" rather than "supernova": http://mnrasl.oxfordjournals.org [oxfordjournals.org] It is a study of Nova Sagittarii 2015 #2 (Nova Sagittarii 2015 No. 2) which, as I understand it, means the second nova observed in the constellation Sagittarius...
[01:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:iron meteorite - 06Curiosity Mars Rover Checks Odd-Looking Iron Meteorite - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:50] <exec> 08└─If it finds a meteorite that came from Earth, that will be even more ironic.
[01:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:43] <exec> 08└─I don't even see the point of the electors. Give each state 100 (for example) "points", and then give each candidate a percentage of those points depending how what percentage o 2000 f voters voted for them. There's no need to waste money hiring actual people to be electors. There's no need to fuck...
[01:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:46] <exec> 08└─All this would do would be to split the progressive vote, and cause Trump to win.
[01:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:03] <exec> 08└─Stick to the basics: one person one vote
[01:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Trump [...] will hand over the reins'' - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:07] <exec> 08└─Pence == Cheney II -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[01:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:13] <exec> 08└─When you look at the origin of regulation of just about anything that is regulated, you will find that there is a reason it is there. Businesses were taking advantage of the little people or little people screwing other little people. People need government. So, yes, it does seem like maybe greedy a...
[01:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sound-bite - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:35] <exec> 08└─Is there any elaboration of that sound-bite that would change your conclusion?
[01:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:43] <exec> 08└─The Democratic party is now the party of classic liberalism (meaning, free-market capitalism, individual liberty, progressive social policy).
[01:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Prop 61 in California - 062016 U.S. Elections: The Ballot Initiatives - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:57] <exec> 08└─Big pharm will quickly realize that they can game it. Instead of dealing with hundreds of companies to fix prices. They can 'campaign contribute' to someone congress critter to get what they need.
[01:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Washington's anti-Citizens United is toxic - 062016 U.S. Elections: The Ballot Initiatives - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:26] <exec> 08└─You can sue a corporation just as easily as you sue an individual.
[01:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Any farking idiots complaining about this one? - 06NASA Says James Webb Space Telescope is Ready for Testing - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:15:33] <exec> 08└─At least I post my opinions as myself, not as an AC. You want to criticize me? Make a farking account. Never mind I realized too late I was posting to soylent and not fark. Completely different mindset between the 2 sites.
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[02:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:38] <exec> 08└─Musky discovers trendy disruptive fuel source that eliminates hunger and poverty and homelessness!
[02:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:39] <exec> 08└─I'm fine with this. They're doing nothing else of value, so they may as well get burned in my car's engine.
[02:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:41] <exec> 08└─Good news. You've just been laid off. Proceed to the gas chamber.
[02:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:44] <exec> 08└─Proceed to the gas chamber.
[02:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, unlike you adding great value to the Internet every night right? I assume there is something of value to you, other than your toxic views on society, to keep you out of my vehicle's gas tank right? right? Be careful. It's very easy to end up poor yourself. Just one more round of downsizing and...
[02:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:4, Interesting) 02anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:48] <exec> 08└─A technique that's used now is to pass the sewage through a tank containing bacteria, which consume it and produce methane. The methane can be used as a gaseous fuel or as a chemical feed-stock. The high temperatures and pressures needed for this hydrothermal liquefaction process (otherwise known as...
[02:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Precious Bread and Circuses!!!!! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:05] <exec> 08└─Steve Jobs [wikipedia.org] Steve Wozniak [wikipedia.org] Burrell Smith [wikipedia.org]
[02:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Precious Bread and Circuses!!!!! - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:06] <exec> 08└─Thank you, different AC.
[02:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''left wing views'' - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:20] <exec> 08└─If done my way, your (Reactionary?) views will get equal coverage. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[02:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Bikini Bottom - 06Brine Lakes at the Bottom of the Gulf of Mexico Investigated with Undersea ROVs - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:33] <exec> 08└─Is the technical explanation of how Spongebob gets to surf at the beach? :)
[02:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''the Democratic party broke up Microsoft'' - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:44] <exec> 08└─In 2000, the Democratic party broke up Microsoft for anti-trust violations Wow! Could you possibly be more wrong? 1) It was the courts that decided the case. (Courts are supposed to be non-partisan.) 2) Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson was a Reagan appointee. -He- was the presiding judge and the one wh...
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[03:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Should've been a golden opportunity - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:44] <exec> 08└─For the LAAA (Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, formerly known as the California Angels) to make major strides in increasing their fanbase. Unfortunately, the Angels sucked this year.
[03:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Kill the Poor - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:57] <exec> 08└─AC is by far the most productive person on this site. He'll be the last to the biocrude processing facility.
[03:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:59] <exec> 08└─That kinda describes me. Pass a lot of organic material through me and a good percentage of it comes out as methane. Can I patent me?
[03:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:01] <exec> 08└─Can I patent me?
[03:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''will require substantial energy input'' - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah. Try to do too much in 1 place and we really don't make a quantum leap over the old ways. anaerobic digesters We've discussed some similar stuff previously (November 2014): Bus Powered by Human Poop Begins Service this Week in UK [soylentnews.org] Process Converts Human Waste into Rocket Fuel [...
[03:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02i knew that getting married would pay off.. - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:06] <exec> 08└─"...a single person could generate two to three gallons of biocrude per year."* woohoo ! ! ! only single people get processed into biocrude ? ? ? i'm exempt ! ! ! woohoo ! !! * 2-3 gals per cadaver seems like a pretty good yield, win-win !
[03:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02not worth the effort - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:08] <exec> 08└─There just isn't that much energy from sewage. And if they really want to save energy, treat it and use it as fertilizer. That's a more effective use of energy right there.
[03:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02"It was a Level 8 problem" - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:27] <exec> 08└─Said the Level 3 spokesperson, whose company was named after the seven-layer OSI stack.
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[03:10:29] <exec> 08└─Program, do you believe in the Users?
[03:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Fixed - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, somehow that link got broken in the editor window and now works.
[03:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02submitter unaware of consequences - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:44] <exec> 08└─Here is the link you wanted used: https://soylentnews.org
[03:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''health workers are notoriously conservative'' - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 1028 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:49] <exec> 08└─Hospitals and health workers are notoriously conservative While that is likely true for healthcare administrators (CxOs; MBAs; bean counters), check out the nurses' unions before making too broad a statement. Their positions on workers' rights are not what I would call "Conservative". and slow on th...
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[03:11:09] <exec> 08└─TFA postulates that some lighter elements also come out of the event.
[03:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Cock - 06Curiosity Mars Rover Checks Odd-Looking Iron Meteorite - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:29] <exec> 08└─How is it that no one has noticed the marking in the top right (about 2 o'clock) is distinctly cock shaped? This is a Martian fleshbot. Or at least the universe has a sense of humor. Or maybe i'm just seeing cocks everywhere, ha ha.
[03:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:2) 02Re:Uber rapidly losing mindshare - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:51] <exec> 08└─That's right - Uber is aggressively subsidizing Uber drivers to keep the prices artificially low. Once they've caused Lyft to melt down, and caused the Taxi universe to implode, expect price hikes. But already legislation that makes Uber pay a lot of the same fees that Taxis do is causing the price...
[03:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:12:38] <exec> 08└─The senate - supposed to be composed of two people from each state, appointed by the state's governor/government? When that was changed, the states were screwed again.
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[04:10:01] <exec> 08└─2-3 gals per cadaver
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[04:10:03] <exec> 08└─is a gold mine.
[04:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OSI Model interview training course - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:25] <exec> 08└─Memorize the following, repeat it during your interview, and a network engineering job will be yours.(*) Please Do Not Take Sales Persons Advice Physical Datalink Network Transport Session Presentation Application (*)Must not be white. If white, give up now.
[04:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:18] <exec> 08└─An electoral college is not what drives a 2 party system.
[04:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:21] <exec> 08└─Personally I also think Great Britain has it right in banning any reporting on the election or polls until all votes have been cast; this is particularly problematic with a "media" that amounts to a propaganda machine for a particular candidate.
[04:12:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''Democrats [relocate more] than Republicans'' - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:12:27] <exec> 08└─Missing the point. Do some googling about "The Big Sort". You'll find references to Bill Bishop, who illustrated how like-minded people cluster together; essentially self-gerrymandering.
[04:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:18] <exec> 08└─This is pretty revisionist. Some people in the libertarians like some aspects of Obamacare. To declare that they liked the whole thing is simple fabrication. Libertarians want insurance to be optional, not mandatory. They want it to be offered in good faith, sure, and generally could agree on some r...
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[05:09:38] <exec> 08└─They've invented the Baghdad Battery. [wikipedia.org] Circa 250 BCE or perhaps 224 CE. Iron, copper, and fruit juice (or maybe a potash slurry) in a ceramic jar. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[05:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What's new is old again - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:40] <exec> 08└─They're literally invented the Baghdad Battery now, but they must travel back in time to make sure they invented it then, or else it will never be invented. Because we all know Iraqis never invented anything, so they must have been time-traveling Muricans.
[05:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:42] <exec> 08└─Here is a link [acs.org] where you can download the actual paper if anyone is interested in reading it.
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[05:10:08] <exec> 08└─Yeah, harvesting the methane produced using one of the digesters mentioned above and turning the rest into compost is probably much more efficient, especially on municipal sewage scales. Use the resulting compost and liquid waste to grow algae and crops to process into biofuels and you're probably g...
[05:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:2) 02Erm...? Really? - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:11] <exec> 08└─Some people can manage that in a day if they eat Mexican food the night before
[05:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Submitter is fully aware of consequences - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I also read at -1. I also drag URLs into a blank Address Bar and modify them there if I don't like the current state. By forming a link that has maximum content (without trolls), I'm hoping that more people will find the site via search engines--and like it. (aristarchus had a recent journal e...
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[05:12:34] <exec> 08└─1. repeal superior personhood of fictitious legal entities...
[05:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:03] <exec> 08└─Sanders voters were all about being 'right kind of liberal' and that involves not being aggressive. Trump voters are all about being liberal kind of right, and that involves being aggressive. Also, I find it funny that the so called conservatives are trying their best to usurp the system, while the...
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[05:13:23] <exec> 08└─Free Software can do what payware does for most folks; on servers, FOSS is clearly superior
[05:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:29] <exec> 08└─Which even major players in the Libertarian Party favored because
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[06:09:56] <exec> 08└─The significant improvement appears to be the anodization of the metal. Not a breakthrough in science, for sure, but apparently not previously tested in this context and more efficient than expected.
[06:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:58] <exec> 08└─That's just the "Supporting Information" pdf, alas. The main article appears thoroughly paywalled.
[06:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:00] <exec> 08└─Paywalled, just the way President Trump likes his internet.
[06:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm...? Really? - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:30] <exec> 08└─Yeah, let's be inclusive here. Indian food will do that to you too.
[06:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03maggotbrain [6063] (Score:1) 02Re:"It was a Level 8 problem" - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:53] <exec> 08└─I've always referred to issues residing in Layer 8 as being political in nature. Layer 9 is the religious layer from which no hard data will resolve an issue.
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[06:11:33] <exec> 08└─Title: "Study Confirms that Stellar Novae are the Main Source of Lithium in the Universe" Summary: "Recently, a group of researchers detected enormous quantities of beryllium-7, an unstable element that decays into lithium in 53.2 days, inside nova Sagittarii 2015 N.2, which suggests that novae are...
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[06:12:49] <exec> 08└─So you have to vote strategically, i.e for Hillary, in hopes of keeping the wrong lizard from winning.
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[07:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Brexit triggers World War Three - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:44] <exec> 08└─The Union shall be indivisible! Launch nukes.
[07:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score:2) 02Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:45] <exec> 08└─The UK's unwritten constitution leaves power in the hands of Parliament, not the people. Whether that's wise or not, any other decision by the court would have been a radical change.
[07:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:47] <exec> 08└─Fascinating, but irrelevant. The issue in question is whether the government (which in this context is what Americans would call "the administration") can exit the EU without consulting Parliament (what Americans would call "the Congress"). If the context were American, Imperial President Theresa Ma...
[07:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:49] <exec> 08└─It has become beyond doubt that, at least in the US, UK, and to a lesser degree Australia - that democracy is a charade. When the people vote along the lines that those in power like then it's simply the people expressing their will enabling the politicians to exempt themselves from any personal res...
[07:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:51] <exec> 08└─I think it's time to begin phasing away republics and politicians in general and aim for more direct democratic representation.
[07:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action? - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:54] <exec> 08└─The biggest problem that the UK faces with Brexit isn't leaving the EU. It's the uncertainty of what the terms will be. Uncertainly id deadly for a country's economy, because business will not invest until they know what the future holds. So, will the parliament: a) Try to use this as an opportunity...
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[07:10:05] <exec> 08└─"The team drew inspiration from the simple design of the Baghdad battery." Not a hazard.
[07:10:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 495 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:28] <exec> 08└─A technique that's used now is to pass the sewage through a tank containing bacteria, which consume it and produce methane. The methane can be used as a gaseous fuel or as a chemical feed-stock. The high temperatures and pressures needed for this hydrothermal liquefaction process (otherwise known as...
[07:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Worlds oldest fuel - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:40] <exec> 08└─Dry it out and burn it.
[07:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Submitter is fully aware of consequences - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:20] <exec> 08└─Your agenda is clearly different.
[07:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Submitter is fully aware of consequences - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:21] <exec> 08└─(aristarchus had a recent journal entry noting the site's slow growth.)
[07:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:They came from the supernovae of stars - 06Study Confirms that Stellar Novae are the Main Source of Lithium in the Universe - 1642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:43] <exec> 08└─The universe started off with hydrogen and helium, and a negligible amount of anything else. Nuclear fusion in stars was responsible for making carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, neon, magnesium, silicon, sulphur, and iron, cobalt, and nickel. Stellar burning makes free neutrons too, which can be absorbed by...
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[08:09:42] <exec> 08└─.....but this is just stupid. Four (4) plaintiffs? An Indian company hiring Indians? The plaintiffs should shut up and get other jobs. I quote the prophet RMS: “Won't programmers starve?” I could answer that nobody is forced to be a programmer. Most of us cannot manage to get any money for stan...
[08:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Brexit triggers World War Three - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:50] <exec> 08└─That would be interesting. The only EU-"countries" with nuclear weapons are france and uk, and they have roughly the same number of nuclear weapons as well. And no - first strike will not settle a darn thing since both countries have the habit of having a couple of nuclear armed submarines in servic...
[08:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:56] <exec> 08└─Yes, yes, OH GOD YES. MOD UP FOR FUCKING BRILLIANCE!!!!!!!!!! Let's replace all forms of government with ONLINE MODERATION!
[08:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:59] <exec> 08└─Do you not see that's what we have right? Online moderation is analogous to representative systems in which one or a handful of people ostensibly from the general population are selected to work on behalf of them. It works as well for large countries as it does for large message boards. Which is to...
[08:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:02] <exec> 08└─I think it will most likely be A. Establishment politicians want to stay within the EU and as this is making increasingly clear - the votes of the people don't matter when they don't vote as expected. The irony here is that I was leaning against Brexit, but I'm more in support of democracy. You don'...
[08:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 2244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:04] <exec> 08└─The 23 June 2016 Referendum was appallingly badly constructed, though. I think most people would agree that deciding whether to continue with EU membership or not was rather important. In most cases, topics of such importance need a super-majority ( https://en.wikipedia.org [wikip...
[08:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''getting ourselves known is important'' - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:11:30] <exec> 08└─That is going to be difficult with a skeletal representation in the search engines. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[08:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Musk - 06Study Confirms that Stellar Novae are the Main Source of Lithium in the Universe - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:58] <exec> 08└─And Elon Musk is trying to reach for the stars with his rockets. Soon he'll close the circle. Bert Topic for a science fiction novel: Mining the stars for lithium (just let the hydrogen and helium evaporate).
[08:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Li, Be, and B can't be made by nuclear fusion - 06Study Confirms that Stellar Novae are the Main Source of Lithium in the Universe - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:11:59] <exec> 08└─These three elements, lithium, beryllium, and boron, cannot be made by any nuclear fusion process. Hydrogen can be fused into helium, and the next fusion reaction produces carbon and from then on it's easy enough to make even heavier elements. The only way to make these elements is by fissioning a h...
[08:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''the Democratic party broke up Microsoft'' - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:13] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure I'm getting your point. I will say that when I mean "gratis", I use that word. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
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[09:09:45] <exec> 08└─Me love you long time...
[09:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:46] <exec> 08└─That's an East Asian stereotype, fool, this story is about South Asia.
[09:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:48] <exec> 08└─Probably programming will not be as lucrative on the new basis as it is now.
[09:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:03] <exec> 08└─You seem to think a direct democracy is a good thing. I don't. At least not on a country level. I think most people simply lack the intelligence to decide on the faith of a country. You are right about the abuse thing, but I rather be governed by a politician that tries to enrich him/herself in the...
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[09:10:08] <exec> 08└─"You don't promote and organize a vote only to then work to annul its results when it doesn't turn out as predicted." After the Uprising on June 17th The Secretary of the Authors' Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Which said that the people Had forfeited the government's confidence A...
[09:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Get along little watch-doggies! - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:29] <exec> 08└─"The lack of a competitive negotiation process is especially bad for consumers" So, uh... why are the competition watchdogs allowing huge mergers which, really, reduce competition? "Gee, if we let these last 2 companies merge into 1, then they can compete with only themself and then MAN!!! will pric...
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[09:10:54] <exec> 08└─It's not really racist, it's just a lot of people can't really digest certain types of legumes. It's genetically determined and almost everyone has problems digesting some pulse that's a staple of another group. Not just pulses/legumes but that's where these differences are most commonly seen becaus...
[09:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02That's not a lot of oil - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:56] <exec> 08└─30 million barrels per year may sound like a lot, but in 2015 the US produced over 9 million barrels of oil per day . At current prices that's about $1.35 billion. Again, sounds like a lot of money, but remember this is going to be chopped up among the thousands of water and sewer departments/compan...
[09:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Great expectations.... - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:12:40] <exec> 08└─We'll probably learn that Google and Apple were secretly NSA funded projects. Seriously, Google is doing the NSA's work for them. The only evidence to the contrary is nobody has spilled their guts about such a secret yet, and since nobody can keep a secret in this country you would have expected tha...
[09:13:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 754 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:52] <exec> 08└─You're assuming that the huge one-sided support among superdelegates would not have an effect on the normal nomination voting. I see that as being wrong in two ways. First, it created an impression of victory for Clinton that would have influenced how people vote (eg, why bother voting for Sanders w...
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[10:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:09:58] <exec> 08└─The ancestors traditionally hunted, killed, and ate the animals. Somehow I doubt their lazy descendants will be doing any hunting or killing when they can eat at Buffalo Wild Wings instead.
[10:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I wanna mow your lawn, man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:09] <exec> 08└─Silly Americans, IT is for Indians! Just like Landscaping is for Mexicans! I see landscapers all the time, but I never see anyone suing the landscaping companies for only hiring Mexicans!!!
[10:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 2075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:26] <exec> 08└─I think there are two major responses to this. The first is that what you're saying is what everybody thinks because of a typical phenomena that everybody thinks everybody else is an idiot. In most polls of perceived intelligence in the US you'll find a ballpark of 90% of people thinking they're sma...
[10:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:31] <exec> 08└─You don't retroactively change the rules of an vote because you don't like the topic. This is obvious stuff. And apply the same math to nearly any election results on any topic and you'll find that 27% of the population is an absolutely enormous mandate by the standards of modern democracies without...
[10:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02first days and... - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:34] <exec> 08└─If you all remember, that the first days after the vote a gaggle of Euro officials stood up and denounced the result threatening "to make things very difficult for the UK". At the time, I remember thinking "Not a single one of those people was elected, being the appointed cronies of the commission"....
[10:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:first days and... - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:36] <exec> 08└─Ah, an Express reader. Or is it the Torygraph?
[10:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:38] <exec> 08└─The tabloid newspapers are going mad today [theguardian.com] defaming the High Court judges who made the ruling. It's like something out of a dystopian nightmare. Those who crowed loudest about "democracy" and "sovereignty" are now incandescent when democracy and sovereignty - and the rule of law -...
[10:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:52] <exec> 08└─Trump doesn't like to pay for anything, his internet would be walled with free pussy. So, nothing like the actual internet then... :-)
[10:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:12] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. There was nothing new for me in any of them apart from number 4, the one on the MMP voting system, but it was nice to see the ideas so clearly presented in an approachable way. MMP was completely new to me and I don't see how it fails to have any of the desirable properties listed in Arr...
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[11:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:01] <exec> 08└─There's nothing crackpot about that quote... why choose RMS saying something reasonable when there are tons of actually crackpot things you could point to?
[11:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Based off California: - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:03] <exec> 08└─The 'mexicans' you talk about are usually owner-operators, or have one or two hired hands. Of the ones neighbors/family have used, one was a husband/wife couple, another was a white dude with one or two mexicans, a third was himself mexican with one other worker, and the rest were all mexicans. Poin...
[11:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I wanna mow your lawn, man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:05] <exec> 08└─What landscaping companies? Landscapers are mostly independent and/or small businesses. One old Mexican might find and arrange jobs for thirty or fifty younger Mexicans, and he gets a small cut from each of them. That isn't even a "company". There are no formal arrangements - some people want to wor...
[11:10:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) 02Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 182 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:16] <exec> 08└─The UK's unwritten constitution leaves power in the hands of Parliament, not the people. Whether that's wise or not, any other decision by the court would have been a radical change.
[11:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Majority is incompetent in every area - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:25] <exec> 08└─Competent people are always a minority, except in the few 2000 things where incompetence prevents survival. And the nanny state ensures that those things are ever fewer. The populace's total incompetence is a crop that is carefully raised and nurtured. To argue for simple democracy in our day, is s...
[11:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:28] <exec> 08└─And as a final aside, there needn't be any reason we keep the current majority, let alone plurality, pass systems. Require 70% approval for anything to be passed and it ensure that only things that the vast majority of society, with all of its diversity of opinion and thought, supports would pass.
[11:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:34] <exec> 08└─A major difference was that the result of the Scottish referendum was legally binding
[11:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:40] <exec> 08└─Actually the fear is that democracy is going to be (or has been) overruled by judiciary and sovereignty, which is exactly the same complaint many had about the EU in the first place, so the reaction is not unsurprising. Democracy has not been upheld yet, and there is now the possibility that parliam...
[11:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Two issues - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:42] <exec> 08└─From the side of the UK: the issue is, that for the past 40 years, brits have been living under laws some of which were influenced by EU law; especially w.r.t. working hours, environmental issues, work environment etc. To change these laws all in one go (Brexit) and turn the UK into the Tory wet dre...
[11:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Learned something - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:57] <exec> 08└─It was news to me that you CAN anodize steel and brass. Certainly the process is different than either the chromic acid or sulfuric acid anodizing of aluminum. Hint: steel can be anodized using nitric acid or red fuming nitric acid (ugh), resulting in a black coating. I think this is different than...
[11:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Way late, Feds! - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:07] <exec> 08└─The very first blackout of any sports event should have triggered collusion and conspiracy investigations. We've been hearing about blackouts since I was a young man. I think the first I ever heard of, involved boxing, but I could be wrong. Broadcast the damned event, FFS. The sporting organizations...
[11:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03marknmel [1243] (Score:1) 02Re:OSI Model interview training course - 06Level 3 Drops Its Packets for Hours, Causing Internet Traffic Jam - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:56] <exec> 08└─You forgot two layers, namely financial and political. There, I fixed it for ya. Jokes aside, these days at $WORK, I just send layer 8 and 9 issue directly to my $BOSS stating it's layer 8 and / or 9. He's cool and savvy and takes care of the b.s. for me. :-)
[11:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Legislator pay - 062016 U.S. Elections: The Ballot Initiatives - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:15:38] <exec> 08└─It's been done. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://journals.chapman.edu [chapman.edu]
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[12:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:06] <exec> 08└─You have been properly modded troll. How many Native Americans have you worked with? In my part of the country, you can hardly avoid working with them. That doesn't even begin to count the half-breeds, quarter-breeds, or whatever else. Fact is, when you walk out on a job, you have little idea who is...
[12:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Followup question: - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:08] <exec> 08└─Given the thousands of buffalo skulls and other materials that should still be in existence around the US, would it be possible to bolster the genetic diversity of these buffalo herds by sequencing those bones dna and then reintroducing missing variants into future embryos/clones in order to improve...
[12:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:36] <exec> 08└─The UK constitution is not unwritten, it is just written all over several centuries of case law. Sometimes I am surprised the US didn't do it this way because it seems that it ought to inherently make more money for lawyers, on the other hand they seem to make plenty (more) in the US anyway so what...
[12:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:50] <exec> 08└─You don't retroactively change the rules of an vote because you don't like the topic.
[12:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:57] <exec> 08└─Referendums are unconstitutional in this country (UK). They have no legal weight. Parliament is sovereign. We need to either change our constitution or forget about referendums.
[12:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:59] <exec> 08└─Actually the fear is that democracy is going to be (or has been) overruled by judiciary and sovereignty, which is exactly the same complaint many had about the EU in the first place, so the reaction is not unsurprising.
[12:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:02] <exec> 08└─This is the Intertubes. You're not supposed to talk sense. :-)
[12:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe we should have a referendum on whether or not we want to decide things by referendum or have parliament decide for us, parliament can then ignore the result if it is wrong...
[12:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:37] <exec> 08└─Sorry Snotnose, I've already got a patent pending. Once it gets processed, my lawyer will need a nickel every time you comment.
[12:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03BenJeremy [6392] (Score:1) 02Who runs Bartertown? - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:49] <exec> 08└─Will we get a Thunderdome to compete in when we buy gas for our cars?
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[13:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:07] <exec> 08└─I eat them now. They're tasty, and a decent substitute for the beef I can no longer eat. It seems many other people agree. Buffalo burgers are all over the West and upper Midwest now. When I was a kid there were only a couple in the region bounded by Montana, Washington, Texas, and California.
[13:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Followup question: - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:09] <exec> 08└─The buffalo was one of the most hugely successful mammals on the North American continent - if not the world. They numbered in the hundreds of millions. Why do you think they need "improving"? Evolution only works in natural settings. We have something called veterinary medicine now for everything e...
[13:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Followup question: - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:11] <exec> 08└─You overestimate our mastery of genetic engineering. Buffalo are large (slow growing, expensive) animals - genetic splicing as you describe is a hugely trial and error endeavor today. Attempting to restore sequences from long-dead bones and introduce them into a herd for benefit would require growin...
[13:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:23] <exec> 08└─The composition of Infosys' U.S. workforce is too lopsided -- overwhelmingly South Asian -- to be an accident
[13:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:41] <exec> 08└─The UK constitution is not unwritten, it is just written all over several centuries of case law
[13:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:42] <exec> 08└─Is that why Britain refers to its people as "subjects," as in, "objects," rather than "citizens?"
[13:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:52] <exec> 08└─I think most people simply lack the intelligence to decide on the faith of a country
[13:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:first days and... - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:04] <exec> 08└─Probably the Express. Both show up in my news feed. The Express is rabidly pro leave to the point of being completely postfactual in a number of cases - every other news outlet from Fox News to Al Jazeera says one thing, the Express says the opposite. The Telegraph is a bit schizophrenic because it'...
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[13:11:11] <exec> 08└─The "Royal prerogative" is intended for all treaties, not just peace. The EU treaties themselves effectively delegate law making to the royal prerogative - which was precisely Tony Benn's argument against it in his renowned speech on Maastricht. The key is whether invoking article 50 falls under law...
[13:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:14] <exec> 08└─It's very hard to take people seriously when they simultaneously argue for democracy and sovereignty and against the democratically elected MPs in the sovereign parliament being able to debate a major constitutional change.
[13:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm...? Really? - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:12:06] <exec> 08└─And vegan food. But the default cuisine for such conversations seems to be Mexican, so, you know, you run with that.
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[14:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score:1) 02Huge genetic bottleneck - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:32] <exec> 08└─I find it quite daring to use just 10 individuals as a founding population. Supposedly, the population would be very prone to extinction from infectious diseases and reduced fertility. It would seem wise to stock up the gene pool by the addition of more individuals later. Naturally, the population w...
[14:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02 - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:33] <exec> 08└─First read it as "Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Returns 'Mark of Buffalo'" and was thinking it was a sign or something, like that one tribe who said a white buffalo being born was a sign of the end of the world. see also Mark Ruffalo
[14:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Litany - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:50] <exec> 08└─This is ridiculous. Obviously the real problem is (choose any): They didn't have enough white people applying to work there, its not Infosys's fault, they can't hire people who don't applyWhite people are too smart to want to work there, they see how poorly Infosys treats and pays their employeesInf...
[14:11:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03moondrake [2658] 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 642 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:12] <exec> 08└─You seem to think a direct democracy is a good thing. I don't. At least not on a country level. I think most people simply lack the intelligence to decide on the faith of a country. You are right about the abuse thing, but I rather be governed by a politician that tries to enrich him/herself in the...
[14:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:35] <exec> 08└─It's very hard to take people seriously when they simultaneously argue for democracy and sovereignty and against the democratically elected MPs in the sovereign parliament being able to debate a major constitutional change.
[14:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:37] <exec> 08└─The democratically elected MPs in the sovereign parliament already did debate it, and voted to put the issue to the people to decide in a referendum. The issue is whether or not they should now get another go (and then maybe we get another go and so on and so forth). It doesn't matter which way I vo...
[14:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:39] <exec> 08└─That Guardian article you linked to is absolutely hilarious! Sometimes you just have to LOL.. If I can stomach it, I'll surf to the Daily Mail today, they say the commentary there is even worse than on the BBC News. Interesting for purposes of cultural anthropology though.
[14:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:41] <exec> 08└─sample of a comment from The Guardian: (16 upvotes) "Some of the things that bind all these socially divisive newspapers; They are owned by alleged tax avoiding billionaires; The Sun - Rupert Murdoch, American who lives in the US. The Mail - Lord Rothermere, lives in France, inherited his non-domici...
[14:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score:2) 02Re:anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:25] <exec> 08└─Same difference.
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[15:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Partial solution - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:18] <exec> 08└─There is more than one type of plastic. Many food containers are made of a composite of 2 plastics. My municipality collects plastic, but buries the low-grade plastic there is no market for.
[15:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:22] <exec> 08└─Which is better, being ruled by a bunch of people flying by the seat of their pants and not knowing what they're doing, or being ruled by a group of very competent people who are in it just for themselves? Pretty much the root question in this election, too :P
[15:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:24] <exec> 08└─From my reading "faith" would also work: e.g. if the country in question switches over to direct democracy and the people start immediately throwing out treaties because "the fuck is this? this doesn't help us at all! get rid of it!" as I'm sure would happen.
[15:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:27] <exec> 08└─Let the people decide things they have no idea about, what could possibly go wrong... Well half of them could vote for brexit, but then not even understand what they wanted, or know what that even means. Hard/soft/somethingelse, Keep the EU rules/or not Free movement of people/or not.
[15:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:40] <exec> 08└─Referendums are unconstitutional in this country (UK).
[15:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:42] <exec> 08└─The former PM made a "pledge."
[15:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:44] <exec> 08└─Was it in writing and notarized? Legally binding? "How can you tell a politician is lying?" :P
[15:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:46] <exec> 08└─While that is a problem, it's not really the one the GP is talking about (at least, I don't think it is...I'm not entirely sure what his complaint it). If the referendum isn't legally binding, Parliament could just pass a law themselves.
[15:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:51] <exec> 08└─heed the result of the advisory referendum, publish their detailed policy on how to implement it and call a general election with that as a central policy.
[15:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:53] <exec> 08└─UK (probably most countries ) elections are quick and cheap compared to the years long thing you seem to have in America. It's not really a big deal.
[15:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:00] <exec> 08└─Here we go again with terminology problems. It's very hard to take people seriously when they simultaneously argue for democracy and sovereignty and against the democratically elected MPs in the sovereign parliament being able to debate a major constitutional change.
[15:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Way late, Feds! - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:29] <exec> 08└─Though I think the airwaves ought to serve the people, I'm not too convinced of the value of a fucking sports event to preempt the owner's rights to them.
[15:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I saw that documental - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:02] <exec> 08└─Inspired by this episode Beaverly Butt-billies [imdb.com]
[15:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:History not needed - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:15:58] <exec> 08└─{They came from a political system that inevitably devolves into an oligarchy masquerading as a two party system. FTFY
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[16:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Gives credence to something - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:06] <exec> 08└─That cringe you feel when you hear the word "moist" is keeping you from getting the flu. Moist.
[16:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Getting there... - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:21] <exec> 08└─Finally! Had thought of this ages ago, but too lazy to figure it out. Sure enough, someone has done the legwork and I can now just assemble one in my spare time. Stoked! The first person that gets a 'Wall-E' bot roaming through landfills processing waste into raw materials will change the world, and...
[16:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02What is the market? - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:22] <exec> 08└─Seriously, the final products look like crap. What is the cost of production? Is joe sixpack going to buy something like this, or a shiny bleached widget at WalMart?
[16:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tara Li [6248] (Score:1) 02Re:What is the market? - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:24] <exec> 08└─Cost seems to be pretty darned low, over all. However, what's not mentioned is how limited it is in which plastics it will handle. Admitted, it's a step in the right direction, but ultimately, what we really need is super-single stream recycling - everything considered "waste" goes in, it gets separ...
[16:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:41] <exec> 08└─Buffalo tastes pretty much like beef. The only real difference I find is that buffalo is totally lean compared to storebought beef. This means it cooks super dry. It helps to add a little butter or oil of your choice to a buffalo burger before cooking it.
[16:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thank Ted Turner - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, "CNN Ted" and "Ted and Jane" Ted. https://www.yahoo.com [yahoo.com] Frankly, I was surprised he's still alive.
[16:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:02] <exec> 08└─Where's your postscarcity world now? LOL
[16:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Poe's law - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:07] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you were going for sarcasm of not. I doubt race significantly ef 15a9 fects any of those points. For point 1 to be true, the average white applicant would have to: Be aware that Infosys is dominated by south asian peopleBe racist enough to care. Point 2 has mostly been discredited. There...
[16:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Why the Euphemism? - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:10] <exec> 08└─Why does the media feel it is okay to point out this criminally-discriminatory company is India-based but the workers they use are "South Asian"? Are they hiring lots of Bengali and Thai people too?
[16:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous C 2000 oward (Score:0) 02Re:Brexit triggers World War Three - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:23] <exec> 08└─Also we are close enough that we probably irradiate each other. Proper MAD.
[16:11:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 219 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:58] <exec> 08└─Actually the fear is that democracy is going to be (or has been) overruled by judiciary and sovereignty, which is exactly the same complaint many had about the EU in the first place, so the reaction is not unsurprising.
[16:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:04] <exec> 08└─Being able to call the election whenever you think is most advantageous for your own party seems rather scuzzy, though. Do you guys have such a crippling problem with gerrymandering, too? :P
[16:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:06] <exec> 08└─I suppose in theory it means that the resulting vote on this one single issue more closely approximates the will of the people, but...seems like a rather expensive one-off.
[16:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:08] <exec> 08└─It leaves you with an interesting conundrum if there's a party you generally agree with except for the one specific issue which is the reason the election is being called. Guess then you have to weigh how much you care about the one issue. I'm sure the U.S. equivalent would be your normal party call...
[16:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:14] <exec> 08└─The democratically elected MPs in the sovereign parliament already did debate it, and voted to put the issue to the people to decide in a referendum.
[16:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:17] <exec> 08└─Ah, I see, you're redefining words to mean something other than their accepted meanings. Representative democracy and direct democracy are both forms of democracy. Republic is a completely orthogonal term, which means that the head of state is not selected by the hereditary principle. The UK is not...
[16:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:19] <exec> 08└─No, I'm not redefining terms. You chose to pick the one of the two definitions of "democracy" that made the argument not make any sense, and I pointed out the one that does. Representative democracy and direct democracy are both forms of democracy.
[16:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:37] <exec> 08└─He likes walls, and he likes those who are locked out to pay for them. Sounds like a paywall to me. And since I can't imagine him reading any science- or even pseudo-science files, or anything at all beyond a picture book, these paywalls should be fine with him, since they don't affect him ;-)
[16:12:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02Re:Learned something - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:40] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the anodization (is that a word?) pits the surface on a nanoscale as opposed to fusing a material to the surface. Making something an anode just means current will flow through it. That current then makes chemical reactions happen.
[16:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02channeling RMS - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:53] <exec> 08└─Though I think the airwaves ought to serve the people, I'm not too convinced of the value of a fucking sports event to preempt the owner's rights to them.
[16:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:submitter unaware of consequences - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:14:10] <exec> 08└─What if the software detected the spider and presented it in nested mode w/threshold by default? There must be a way to accomplish both goals (search engines seeing more comments and respecting user preferences) if that's what we choose to do.
[16:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Great expectations.... - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:18] <exec> 08└─But cool people want their own Tesla battery and panels to fuel their own decentralized transportation. Using a centralized system like Facebook is so 2015... It's like using NASA for satellites when you can get SpaceX Where's the Musky troll when we need to be told that individualism is cool?
[16:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Great expectations.... - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:21] <exec> 08└─Conspiracies don't have to be directed by any intelligence to be true. You can have a "conspiracy of events" result in a a specific outcome, for example.
[16:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:"Can I get you by the balls that your heart and - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:25] <exec> 08└─Normally, I merely find starting your comment in the topic mildly annoying. Running of of characters mid-sentence (word!), and continuing in the comment body just made my head hurt.
[16:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uber rapidly losing mindshare - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:15:31] <exec> 08└─embrace, extend, extinguish embrace - sure Uber is welcome in our community as a competitor. extend - as long as they have to follow the same laws and regulations from national to local as anyone else (most of which were actually initially initiated for public health and safety reasons) extinguish -...
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[17:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gives credence to something - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:01] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a true neckbeard, who has never experienced the moister regions of the finer sex.
[17:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tbuskey [6127] (Score:2, Informative) 02Legionnaire's disease... - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:03] <exec> 08└─I would not drink water pulled from the air by air conditioners.
[17:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Something something terrorism - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:11] <exec> 08└─This is the most vague summary I've read in a while. What?
[17:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Something something terrorism - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:13] <exec> 08└─I would have to agree with you there. Lots of thin air in TFA... but it did include the word 'nano'.
[17:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something terrorism - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:16] <exec> 08└─It says 'metal oxide', so I guess the terrorists drive rusty cars.
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:3, Insightful) 02re Low volume - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:28] <exec> 08└─The idea is great but: The machines are very low volume and in reading the forums you can find that the motor in the specs is too feeble for the shredder.With low volume, you would have a hard time selling either the shredded material or fiished products.For finished products, the labor of collectin...
[17:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Low volume - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:29] <exec> 08└─Who said anything about making money? It would be profitable in some poorer countries, and the general idea is more about reducing waste than making competitive products.
[17:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not everything has to be about profit - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:31] <exec> 08└─This seems more aimed at the DIY crowd as a tool to have in your belt. This isn't meant as a way to make products to sell or as its own product to sell. Just another set of tools for the craftsman's workshop that were impossible to get your hands on before.
[17:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanweg [4737] (Score:1) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:48] <exec> 08└─Not to mention buffalo wings! Bert
[17:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NBA - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:15] <exec> 08└─What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players in a country where 17% of the population is black?
[17:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03smallfries [4219] (Score:1) 02Re:Sovereignty of Parliament - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:36] <exec> 08└─That is more of a pre-EU leftover. Subjects of the crown have privileges awarded to them. Citizens have rights that cannot be revoked.
[17:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:19] <exec> 08└─The only reason for doing that would be if the government thought that legislation would not be necessary to invoke article 50... oh wait that is what they did believe. Many people seem to have forgotten that Cameron was going to invoke Article 50 on the morning after the vote, that was the expectat...
[17:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Way late, Feds! - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:56] <exec> 08└─If you don't watch your circus, you can't have any bread! How can you have any bread if you didn't what your circus?
[17:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Viruses - 06Thousands of Patients Turned Away from UK Hospitals Because of Malware in Computer Network - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:19] <exec> 08└─I'm glad they're worried about their patients catching secondary infections. Computer viruses are no joke. They have a tendency to lock out vital functions, and they can be especially destructive to long-term memory.
[17:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:tl;dr: Power corrupts - 06How US Democrats Killed Their Populist Soul - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:51] <exec> 08└─You must have not been attention to all his rallies, plus how his supporters showed up at the convention and caused a scene and were thrown out.
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[18:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Today Must Be National Fear Day - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:03] <exec> 08└─Scientists creating better sensors for bombs, then the terrorist threat is moved to the digital realm. Terrorism terrorist everyone be scared!!! Don't mind the real terrorists trying to get themselves in the big office....
[18:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Gives credence to something - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:13] <exec> 08└─If the most you can manage is "moist" I think you've got bigger problems than beard maintenance. Or maybe smaller problems.
[18:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Link to the paper, and summary of results - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:16] <exec> 08└─Here is a link to the paper: http://www.pnas.org [pnas.org] The bottom line is that flu spreads when temperatures are cold and humidity is low, or when temperatures are high and humidity is high. They also claim that aerosol transmission of flu is blocked at...
[18:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to the paper, and summary of results - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:18] <exec> 08└─They also claim that aerosol transmission of flu is blocked at temperatures above 86 F (30 C).
[18:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Link to the paper, and summary of results - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:20] <exec> 08└─Something like that in airplanes and airports would be welcome. Seems every time I take a long-distance trip I get flu for 2 weeks during and after. Sucks after I spent all that money!
[18:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Summary - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:22] <exec> 08└─Use humidifiers when it's cold and dry. AC can help when it's hot and humid.
[18:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Summary - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:25] <exec> 08└─Sure I'll help - whatever you need. -AC
[18:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Would you like some hope with your fear? - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:36] <exec> 08└─"at least 10 times more effective and enable an exceptionally fast response, which is crucial for preventing terrorist attacks" I'd love if scientists could stop helping with the fear mongering, its been shown over and over that all this security theater doesn't stop much of anything except for the...
[18:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Would you like some hope with your fear? - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:38] <exec> 08└─You don't get it. Scientists who don't help with the fear mongering don't get funding.
[18:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:What is the market? - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:49] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, a great many of these byproducts are outright toxic, or bad for living organisms in other ways.
[18:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:10] <exec> 08└─You have been properly modded troll.
[18:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Aww - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:19] <exec> 08└─The Eastside Shoeshine Tribe? Isn't that just a little bit racist?
[18:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Why the Euphemism? - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:41] <exec> 08└─company is India-based but the workers they use are "South Asian"
[18:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why the Euphemism? - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:43] <exec> 08└─What?!? Gugenhammy finds a conspiracy rooted in his own ignorance? That's a first!
[18:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Why the Euphemism? - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:45] <exec> 08└─Why does the media feel it is okay to point out this criminally-discriminatory company is India-based but the workers they use are "South Asian"? Because that's what the lawsuit says. [scribd.com]
[18:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NBA - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:48] <exec> 08└─> What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players in a country where 17% of the population is black? What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players but only 43% black head coaches, 2% black majority owners, and 18% black league...
[18:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:19] <exec> 08└─heh yes, sorry, meant fate. Though faith works somehow as tango says:) I also guess that you formulated exactly what I meant much better. Perhaps it is frustration, or laziness on my part to equate intelligence with being informed of the situation.
[18:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02i may be able to sum this up - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:39] <exec> 08└─I may be able to sum this all up with a short anecdote . I ran a 8 year experiment back in the 80s when one of the politicians was singing the praises of their Brexit referendums. Tacked a couple to the sunny side of a shed, and staked a couple more on the ground. Ten years later my wife took them d...
[18:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:57] <exec> 08└─While perhaps technically correct, I kind of wish people would stop using the term "representative democracy" altogether.
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[19:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Today Must Be National Fear Day - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:05] <exec> 08└─I like that Hamas is the "Palestinian terrorist organization" behind a Gaza team. I wonder what the guys in Congress would say if you called them "the American terrorist organization behind the NSA hacking team".
[19:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Today Must Be National Fear Day - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:07] <exec> 08└─Domestically in America, however, Jews are getting BTFO even though they run banking and the media.
[19:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Personal theory - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:23] <exec> 08└─Flu spreads when people have a runny nose or sneeze or cough. Noses and throats are irritated by large changes in humidity and temperature, when transitioning between indoors and outdoors . In temperate climates, that step is largest in the winter .
[19:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something terrorism - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:33] <exec> 08└─And the words "terrorist" and "threat", because Publicity and Funding. Last time I checked, most terrorists carried the same kind of weapons as 2nd-amendment fans, or just knives. Those with bombs have not been shown to typically loiter around for long enough to trip relevant alarms. On top of which...
[19:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:09] <exec> 08└─So triggered, bro!
[19:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aww - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:19] <exec> 08└─Shoeshine
[19:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:18] <exec> 08└─You're not insightful, you're cynical. The general populace is perfectly capable of deciding a LOT of things, in fact we basically do so already every election cycle. I follow the 90/10 rule which says that 90% of human beings are generally decent good people, and 10% are liars and cheats. I would m...
[19:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:36] <exec> 08└─No, he said it and had it printed on a pamphlet. For it to be legally binding, it would need to have been written into law. The only way that can happen is by Act of Parliament, ie debated by and voted for our elected representatives in the House of Commons, scrutinised by the Peers in the House of...
[19:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03klondike0 [1511] (Score:1) 02Re:Paywalled - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:17] <exec> 08└─Try these: http://docdro.id [docdro.id] http://docdro.id [docdro.id] I didn't like the CV curves too much, the Fe spikes aren't that close together in potential (affecting energy efficiency) and there's not much on the Cu side IMO. However, it could be a useful trick to McGuyver it w...
[19:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:anaerobic digesters - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:51] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure my lawyer will accept any output whatsoever as an excuse to claim a nickel. Based on username, I would expect Snotnose's snotty nose to be the primary source of revenue.
[19:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm...? Really? - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:02] <exec> 08└─Maybe most folks do not know what real Mexican food is like. When you have folks going to places like Taco Bell and Del Taco, and calling it Mexican food, I have little faith about folks being a good judge of proper Mexican cuisine.
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[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02processing - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:11] <exec> 08└─Processing.org is really great. It's a nice 'BASIC' style implementation of a Java IDE. You can write 3 line programs that work, type it in and push play. Can take it to pretty impressive levels of complexity. Java is close enough to C that it means you are very close to proper pro programming, and...
[20:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─Real men still program in COBOL. If you can learn that, you can learn any programming language.
[20:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:14] <exec> 08└─COBOL? Fortran? But these are dead languages, like Latin! In a curriculum development committee meeting it was once pointed out that this is the great advantage of computer technology: we can now create dead languages in mere decades, instead of having to wait multiple millennia! And what ever happ...
[20:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:17] <exec> 08└─Uh.... COBOL and FORTRAN are very much alive. The world's banks and governments couldn't function without COBOL. And scientific applications are generally written in FORTRAN. Both languages are today object-oriented and continue to evolve, and new applications are written in these languages.
[20:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:4, Interesting) 02The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:19] <exec> 08└─Have them bail off into the deep end right from the start; teach them perl. Yes, it's confusing having thirty ways to do any given task and they can very easily shoot themselves in the foot. Which will make other languages seem fresh and relaxing when they go on to learn them. Except java, it will s...
[20:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─"...very easily shoot themselves in the foot." That is an underestimation of programmatic proportion which a supercomputer mainframe has trouble calculating. I seriously doubt that such mainframe can come close to calculating the amount of horrible deaths you may encounter on the journey into Perl....
[20:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:23] <exec> 08└─> Then again, it surely filters the good from the bad. So, yes, Perl is a good starting point. Dont you mean for test %? || Die
[20:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Two trains of thought here - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:25] <exec> 08└─You either go for something simple and straightforward with lots of easy buttons like python. It's powerful enough to actually do things, while "friendly," or you go with something like C/C++ b 1ff6 ecause it rips the bandaid off and lets you glimpse into the reality of what you're actually working...
[20:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two trains of thought here - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:28] <exec> 08└─I agree. Python should be the first language you learn, because it has great tutorials, it's everywhere, and you can use it for serious things if need be. Then you learn C/C++ when you need to extend Python. I'm not going into the C vs C++ fight right now.
[20:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Two trains of thought here - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:30] <exec> 08└─Whenst thou gazeth into the C, the C also gazeth into thee.
[20:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Two trains of thought here - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:32] <exec> 08└─Also, fuck javascript
[20:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Two trains of thought here - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:34] <exec> 08└─Personally, I love python. I think its one of the greatest langs out there because of its simplicity and power. However as a first language its not perfect. Its not using the ubiquitous C-style syntax and has a lot of specifics that don't translate well (or at all) to other languages. Its super easy...
[20:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02JavaScript is the correct answer - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:36] <exec> 08└─JavaScript is the accessible language for beginners, because it is ubiquitous. Every browser runs JavaScript, and every desktop browser includes a JavaScript debugger. (Idiot rebuttal: but, JS is bad! Bad stuff is bad stuff! NoScript! NoScript! NoooooScriiiiipt! No! Script! No! Script!) My first pr...
[20:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02JavaScript is the correct answer - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:39] <exec> 08└─JavaScript is the accessible language for beginners, because it is ubiquitous. Every browser runs JavaScript, and every desktop browser includes a JavaScript debugger.
[20:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02python - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:41] <exec> 08└─These days I do not hesitate. Its python. Learn python first. It is easy and cheap to get going and fairly heavy handed when you get something wrong. The online tutorials on the python.org website are decent and you can be up and running with 3-4 of the chapters under your belt. The erorrs are easy...
[20:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Int 1fbc eresting) 02Rust - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:43] <exec> 08└─Then, instead of having to spend a couple weeks messing around with an IDE, you can just memorize a few FAQs on the Rust web site so you'll sound impressive at the brew pub. Make sure to wear a black t-shirt with a loud logo.
[20:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Heresy!!! - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:45] <exec> 08└─Start with any language you'd like! Or preferably start with a language that can do something you want. Nothing helps learning more than having a purpose for your new skills.
[20:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What Programming Language Did you Learn First? - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:47] <exec> 08└─Every selfish answer here is answering the wrong question. OK then I can be selfish too. I learned Basic first, then I was taught Pascal in school, then I was taught Java in college, and then I learned C++ and JavaScript and Perl and PHP and Python on my own. Interviewers tell me, "Wow, you know too...
[20:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:What Programming Language Did you Learn First? - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:49] <exec> 08└─I learned BASIC first too. Sometimes I set back, amazed, that I can actually manage to build software in spite of it.
[20:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Today Must Be National Fear Day - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:00] <exec> 08└─"America, fuck yeah!"?
[20:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Legionnaire's disease... - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:12] <exec> 08└─And running humidifiers all the time is equally a bad idea unless they get very well cleaned, (which usually doesn't happen as often as t should).
[20:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Link to the paper, and summary of results - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:17] <exec> 08└─Blocked might simply be because you can't get any more water vapor than 30g of water vapor / cubic meter suspended in air above 86, because it will rain. So they have no measurements above that level.
[20:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Temperature window - 06New Research Uncovers Pattern in Global Flu Outbreaks - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:22] <exec> 08└─Humidity levels above and below the temperature window become a key factor in the spread of the virus.
[20:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Something something terrorism - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:32] <exec> 08└─gas sensors could also be used to monitor potential terrorist threats.
[20:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:12] <exec> 08└─Which begs the question (TM) ... Are these American Winged buffaloes, or the European wingless breed? Enquiring minds probably don't give a toss!
[20:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:first days and... - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:13:29] <exec> 08└─Is that the same John Oliver that called all of the brits on the side of leaving racist then went and had a 5 min bigoted song and dance?
[20:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02What is the household chemical? - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:20] <exec> 08└─The paper doesn't actually state what the household chemical is; that information is presumably contained in the supplementary methods.
[20:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What is the household chemical? - 06Yet Another Battery Breakthrough, But Different - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:21] <exec> 08└─They have a list of potential candidates. Muriatic acid HCl (diluted from 37%) Potassium Hydroxide KOH (1-2M) Ammonium Fluoride NH4F (0.05M) Ethylene Glycol Basically, they've done some tests to prove that the concept might be feasible. They aren't at the production and cost analysis stage yet. Whic...
[20:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kenny Blankenship [5712] (Score:1) 02Re:not worth the effort - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:15:00] <exec> 08└─Fertilizing crops with sewage is a *bad* idea, because then people eat the crops (or livestock eats the crops, then people eat the livestock). Then people turn it into sewage, and the cycle repeats. There are compounds which are not removed by treatment, or worse, toxified by treatments that were ai...
[20:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Capt. Obvious [6089] (Score:2) 02Re:Privacy? - 06Uber App Redesign Simplifies Interface, Adds Features at the Expense of Privacy - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:59] <exec> 08└─What permissions other than GPS? (Note, I haven't used Uber in a long time, and then on an iOS device)
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[21:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:21] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing aristarchus is still upset about Latin being proclaimed dead.
[21:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:23] <exec> 08└─I was at a local financial company with a relative and I walked past an area where the average age had to be in the 50s, markedly older than the rest of the office. I asked one of the gentlemen what they did and he replied, "It depends on how much you know about COBOL." One interesting thing to note...
[21:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 644 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:25] <exec> 08└─Real real men program in COBOL inside of JavaScript comments: [npmjs.com] // Dependencies var Cobol = require("cobol"); // Execute some COBOL snippets Cobol(function () { /* IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. PROGRAM-ID. HELLO. ENVIRONMENT DIVIS...
[21:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:27] <exec> 08└─Sadly there is no "-1 Literal glimpse into unknowable horror" mod.
[21:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03sce7mjm [809] (Score:1) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:32] <exec> 08└─No, I don't believe he did
[21:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:35] <exec> 08└─If you code in Perl as it was originally intended, your programs should never be more than a dozen statements, tops. "Powerful" scripting languages are by their very nature difficult to use. People who abuse them and write million line of code applications with essentially no groundwork rules of exp...
[21:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:JavaScript is the correct answer - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:44] <exec> 08└─It helps when one's father is a university professor and had an account on the school's mainframe. And actually you are incorrect about novice programmers being lucky enough to use Applesoft Basic on an Apple II. Most people then learned to code on mainframes or minicomputers, often requiring the pr...
[21:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:python - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:47] <exec> 08└─Python can eat a dick. You can have my irrelevant whitespace when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
[21:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:python - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:49] <exec> 08└─I think whitespace Nazi languages are less terrible than perl syntax, or as I like to call it, "Cat on keyboard mode." :-)
[21:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:python - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:51] <exec> 08└─Yep, either Python or Java. Python preferred as you don't need to compile it. Javascript? God no. Nobody should ever have to use that shitty language for anything.
[21:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What Programming Language Did you Learn First? - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:57] <exec> 08└─What Programming Language Did you Learn First?
[21:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimbrooking [3465] (Score:2) 02Re:What Programming Language Did you Learn First? - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:59] <exec> 08└─SOAP II and Fortran II on an IBM 650 (1962)! :'D
[21:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02English - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:02] <exec> 08└─Yes, I have an anglo-centric view... but, with a good command of the English language, you can access the widest pool of help resources on the internet. Being able to explain your procedural train of thought correctly, in English, should enable you to write it in C, Fortran, Ada, Lisp, Perl, Node.js...
[21:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Learn Deference - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:04] <exec> 08└─"Yes boss, you're the boss, boss."
[21:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02Interesting question... - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 2280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:06] <exec> 08└─I teach at the undergrad/grad level in a North American business school. We teach IT so we do want our students to actually learn to code a bit so that they can understand how things work. In the past, they learned Java, and this year PHP (only one programming class which on my opinion is already a...
[21:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Interesting question... - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:08] <exec> 08└─Which part of java was too complicated? I'd think you'd be able to get "Hello World" out in maybe a half hour, and that's if you're going slow and explaining things. Maybe I'm wrong?
[21:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02check your original birth certificate - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:10] <exec> 08└─If you're not a womyn-born-womyn, the answer is “none!” No, you can't! Don't even try! Until womyn-born-womyn get their fucking shit together and start fucking learning this shit on their own, you DO NOT want to be a programmer.
[21:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:check your original birth certificate - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:12] <exec> 08└─Joke's on you, Kurenai! Alls I can do is program a little C program that swears at yer mother! And I have to hard-code the swears since I don't know file i/o yet.
[21:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Assembly - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:15] <exec> 08└─on a 6510 cpu
[21:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03xpda [5991] (Score:2) 02It's simple. - 06Nanosensors On the Alert for Terrorist Threats - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:59] <exec> 08└─Given: Using "terrorist" and "nano" in the same project title will generate cash. Assumption 1: All terrorists smell alike, probably similar to n-butyl mercaptan. Assumption 2: Everything can be designed (but not built) on a nano-scale. Therefore: Conclusion: We're gonna get rich! Oh, wait. This is...
[21:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:32] <exec> 08└─I shouldn't respond - but your ignorance is so irritating. The Indians still eat buffalo. In fact, they sell some of it. They even have restaurants where tourists can stop to eat a buffalo burger. Th 2000 ere are ranches here and there, where the buffalo are raised for the meat. Some of those ranche...
[21:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:2) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:55] <exec> 08└─Aren't we at war with East Asia?
[21:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like a conspiracy theory..................... - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:01] <exec> 08└─IT workers are pro-feminist and anti-marry-girl-children. They also laughed when the mfcturing jobs were outsourced. FUCK them: they get what they deserve. Bro-Pound to based Stallman.
[21:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I wanna mow your lawn, man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 852 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:06] <exec> 08└─>End of story, no contracts, unless you consider a verbal agreement to come back next week a "contract". (Yes, that might be enforceable in some courts, but good luck with proving a contract was violated!) Ofcourse it is a contract, you fucking retard. It was a promise for a promise. X promises to p...
[21:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fucking retarded anti-marry-young-girl pieces of s - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:16] <exec> 08└─Re:I wanna mow your lawn, man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04, @04:46PM (#422620) >End of story, no contracts, unless you consider a verbal agreement to come back next week a "contract". (Yes, that might be enforceable in some courts, but good luck with provi...
[21:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:Modern "Demockeracy" - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:51] <exec> 08└─You're... looking at the proposed system from the wrong angle. Direct Democracy necessarily calls for the end of "countries" as we know them and the return to power of city-states and counties as the political backbone. Doing away with federalism and representative democracy means that decisions are...
[21:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:58] <exec> 08└─"of modern democracies without coerced voting" Australia is coerced voting. He did leave it off in the second sentence though.
[21:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:first days and... - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:06] <exec> 08└─You must have seen Farage's soliloquy to the European Parliament where he ranted and raved like an inebriated lunatic after the referendum? He couldn't have been more insulting and ungracious. The only things missing were the half-smoked cigarette dangling precariously from his flapping mouth and a...
[21:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 757 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:16] <exec> 08└─There are four countries in the UK, three of which have devolved governments (regional assemblies) with varying powers. At least two of them voted to Remain. Gibraltar also voted to Remain by 94%. There are about a couple of million of UK citizens living and working in EU countries (Freedom of Movem...
[21:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:22] <exec> 08└─There really should be another general election now, morally speaking, because the Conservative Party has completely changed tack from the manifesto upon which it won the 2015 general election. In the last couple of weeks, two Conservative MPs have resigned from the government. By my reckoning, that...
[21:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 1137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:28] <exec> 08└─Ah, the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, brought in by the 2010 Coalition Government... Not such a great idea in hindsight. The Conservative Party is currently under investigation for electoral fraud [channel4.com] (something to do with misuse of funds during the campaign). They are also having the const...
[21:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Way late, Feds! - 06US Gov’t Sues AT&T/DirecTV, Calls it “Ringleader” of Collusion Scheme - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:18] <exec> 08└─You get a nod of agreement from me. I simply don't have the inclination to watch any sporting event. Football, baseball, golf, nascar, you name it - I just can't be bothered with them. I see little if any value in them. BUT - very nearly all of our fellow Americans - and Europeans too - are engrosse...
[21:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Re:not worth the effort - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:45] <exec> 08└─That's why you turn the crops into biodiesel. Also processing compost with worms has been shown to eliminate lingering pharmaceutical compounds.
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[22:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03webhiker [497] (Score:1) 02What a waste of resources - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:58] <exec> 08└─Why must humans live here? We spend so much on resources making inhospitable places habitable. Just go somewhere nice and leave some wilderness to the animals.
[22:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:What a waste of resources - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:59] <exec> 08└─Are you against the concept of interplanetary civilizations? If so, you would damn us to a relatively quick extinction. If not, the inhospitable edges of the world seem like a good testing ground for the sorts of technology we'd need for an independant Martian village. There are other reasons, of co...
[22:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:What a waste of resources - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:01] <exec> 08└─What waste of resources? These systems have the potential to be very efficient. They can be combined with fish farming. They use less land and could be stacked. They need less energy to ship produce to the local residents. In the future, energy costs can be brought down with some mix of natural gas,...
[22:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:3, Informative) 02Decentralization is the future - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:04] <exec> 08└─GOOD. We need more of this, everywhere, for the common people like you and me. Anything that lowers the barrier to entry for healthy food, especially in marginal areas, is something we should be pouring energy and time and money into.
[22:10:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JNCF [4317] 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 644 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:19] <exec> 08└─Real real men program in COBOL inside of JavaScript comments: [npmjs.com] // Dependencies var Cobol = require("cobol"); // Execute some COBOL snippets Cobol(function () { /* IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. PROGRAM-ID. HELLO. ENVIRONMENT DIVIS...
[22:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:27] <exec> 08└─You mean like the site you just posted to?
[22:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02fortran, 1975, mainframe, public high school - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:37] <exec> 08└─I have a coworker who learned fortran in 1975 at his public high school, using an IBM mainframe. At the time, a school with an on-site oil rig could keep the money from the oil.
[22:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:python - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:43] <exec> 08└─Javascript is 'easy' enough to get going but takes a bit of orthogonal thinking that your web browser is also a language interpreter.
[22:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:Heresy!!! - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:47] <exec> 08└─preferably start with a language that can do something you want No, start with a language that shows you what the machine actually does: PDP8 machine code - keyed in from the front panel! Then C. Or, if you are looki 6752 ng for a job in a start-up, you might want/need to be proficient in Gobbledygo...
[22:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:What Programming Language Did you Learn First? - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:54] <exec> 08└─Wot no JCL?
[22:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score:1) 02Something terrible. - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:03] <exec> 08└─People tend to fall in love with their first, and then refuse to accept anything different. The first language you learn should be horrible, like BASIC or APL. Thus, when exposed to something more reasonable, you will appreciate rather than denigrate it.
[22:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02assembly - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:05] <exec> 08└─Learn how the computer actually works, first.
[22:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Wha ?? - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:16] <exec> 08└─A threat group, and a threat actor ? A threat to what ? US petrochemical profits and corporate interests ? A threat to large corporations who refuse to take even the most trivial security steps and depend on violent retaliation to cover their irresponsible and morally questionable behavior in pursui...
[22:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02Come in spinner - 06Users in Middle East Targeted in "Moonlight" Espionage Campaign - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:17] <exec> 08└─...
[22:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:2) 02Bacteria vs. Pyrolysis vs. Mechanical recycling - 06 Open-Source Plastic Recycling Machine Plans Allow Anyone to Convert Waste into New Products - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:12:08] <exec> 08└─Which is the most efficient and cost-effective way of managing waste plastics? Plastic-eating bacteria, which as far as I know produce nothing usable from the plastic? Pyrolysis of the plastic, to produce fuel? Or this kind of mechanical recycling to reuse the plastic, which seems to produces lower-...
[22:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:2) 02Standard Deviations? - 06Infosys' U.S. Workforce is Mostly South Asian and No Accident, Plaintiffs Allege - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:09] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure they're very good at statistics... the share of South Asian workers in Infosys' United States-based workforce, when compared to the relevant labor market, is 301.17 standard deviations higher, and the statistical likelihood that this disparity is due to chance -- as opposed to a systema...
[22:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Any UK folk want to predict parliament's action - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:52] <exec> 08└─You are quite right. mea culpa. I got my referendums (form of plural deliberately chosen) mixed up. Yes, the AV Referendum was the binding one. It still demonstrates the EU 2000 Referendum Act could have been drafted better.
[22:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:not worth the effort - 06Fuel From Sewage is the Future—and It's Closer Than You Think - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:35] <exec> 08└─Chinese have been using night soil [agroecology.org] for thousands of years.
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[23:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sorry to be boring - 06Computing With Lasers Could Power Up Genomics and AI - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:00] <exec> 08└─But if you could just make matrix multiply about 1e3 times faster, rather than some obscure quirky operation, that'd be nice.
[23:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tynin [2013] (Score:2) 02Difficult computer to work on - 06Computing With Lasers Could Power Up Genomics and AI - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:02] <exec> 08└─If you need to open it up for maintenance, I imagine even in a clean room, you'd invite some contamination into its innards which would lead to computational errors due to messing with the optics. Perhaps you could make modular parts and have them forever sealed and if part breaks, swap out the enti...
[23:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Difficult computer to work on - 06Computing With Lasers Could Power Up Genomics and AI - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:04] <exec> 08└─That's interesting. Don't smudge the computational LCD screen! In the initial videos of this thing, it looks like it was designed to be able to sit around like a desktop. But there just isn't enough information to evaluate the effectiveness of Optalysys and its claims. Hopefully we will know more an...
[23:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:What a waste of resources - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:14] <exec> 08└─We're well past the point where we can support our population without spending resources making places more habitable. Whether that means hydroponics in the Arctic, rice farming in the desert, or fertilizing the flyover states, our days of living off the land's bounty are gone -- and have been, by t...
[23:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02My mother-in-law's childhood christmas present - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:17] <exec> 08└─Just one: typically she would get an orange. She grew up in a remote part of Newfoundland. (Well, now she's my ex-mother-in-law.)
[23:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:My mother-in-law's childhood christmas present - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:19] <exec> 08└─My mother-in-law as well: an orange and a handmade doll.
[23:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My mother-in-law's childhood christmas present - 06Arctic Farming: Town Turns to Hydroponics for Fresh Greens - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:21] <exec> 08└─Luxury. When I were growing up, we dreamed of hands.
[23:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:36] <exec> 08└─No, it is not so much the Latin, it is what passes for Greek these days! Oh, and Javascript.
[23:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:37] <exec> 08└─Ah, but Greek is spoken today by the Greeks. The modern language is surprisingly similar to the ancient one, whereas Latin is truly and thankfully dead, having morphed into many other languages that are much easier to learn and speak than Latin! Visual Basic is the Greek of the programming language...
[23:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:39] <exec> 08└─Javascipt == French? My God, what does that make English???
[23:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:42] <exec> 08└─No, it is not so much the Latin, it is what passes for Greek these days!
[23:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:COBOL - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:47] <exec> 08└─I like you.
[23:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The deep end - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:55] <exec> 08└─the deep end = machine language
[23:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Heresy!!! - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:13] <exec> 08└─Nothing helps learning more than having a purpose for your new skills.
[23:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:check your original birth certificate - 06What Programming Language Should you Learn First? - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:25] <exec> 08└─This might only make ½ a sense, but when I started programming I didn't use any file io either. I had a decent C book but only a non-standard C compiler (Microsoft's I think since it was the dos\win3.11 era). So, failing to include the headers, I ended up sticking to the previous chapter's main (in...
[23:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"ancestors traditionally used the animals" - 06Eastern Shoshone Tribe in Wyoming Marks Return of Buffalo - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:12:46] <exec> 08└─Not just the Indian, but the jig and the spic can be used for manual labor in a pinch. Make America Grate.
[23:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score:1) 02Re:Gutter Press in Meltdown - 06Brexit Court Defeat for UK Government - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:50] <exec> 08└─They did change one of the headlines though, the original of which was along the lines of "Oh noes! One judge is teh pooftah!". If every single Daily Fail reader was abducted by aliens, nothing of value would be lost. Except, perhaps, the chance of the aliens coming back to see what the normal peopl...
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