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[00:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:3, Funny) 02The modern approach - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:19] <exec> 08└─Just slap a ribbon bar on it and call it good.
[00:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:30] <exec> 08└─How much of anything does anyone need to know? You can live in most Western countries with almost no skills. Rudimentary arithmetic that kids know by age 6 and reading are helpful but that's all you *need* to know. It's a pointless argument - yes kids, you don't need to know anything to be a voting...
[00:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:31] <exec> 08└─By age 9. an above arverage student is probably above average in all the population.
[00:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:22:34] <exec> 08└─Why is it pointless? It may well show that we shouldn't squander too many of our resources trying to teach absolutely everyone things that the average person will not use. I think that making sure people know how to teach themselves is a more valuable skill. Too often people vote based on shallow th...
[00:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Math is not taught as everyday life - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:36] <exec> 08└─Mathematics in its purest forms has incredible power and beauty.
[00:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:02] <exec> 08└─Why do you want to make poor women feel like they're being rammed raw with a sock? Don't you realize how much it hurts them?
[00:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:the real thing at stake - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:17] <exec> 08└─2. the same power structure that likes to control workers and poor people will give rights to AI powered servants so that humans damaging them will be jailed as they committed crimes against a person. If it seems SF to you, remember corporations have the right of privacy.
[00:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score:1) 02Re:Top kek, would click again. - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:23:52] <exec> 08└─Well advertisers have had things their way for decades. Its about time they get scammed.
[00:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Inuit is already plural - 06Arctic Inuit, Native American Cold Adaptations May Originate from Extinct Hominids - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:24:38] <exec> 08└─The plural of Esquimau is Esquimaux.
[00:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Finally, real competition... - 06Heavy-Lift Drone Could Carry a Person - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:14] <exec> 08└─...to Blendtec and Vitamix!
[00:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 023 billion stars listed... - 06First Pan-STARRS Digital Sky Survey Released - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:26] <exec> 08└─...in Trump's enemies list
[00:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:so, how do we stop apps from lying to us - 06Encrypted Messaging App Signal Uses Google to Bypass Censorship - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:26:54] <exec> 08└─another that needs fixing: If you are running an IoT device, a botmaster is typically the admin.
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[01:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:18] <exec> 08└─... but it also sucks ass (figuratively speaking).
[01:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vim is the greatest editor? Blasphemy! - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:19] <exec> 08└─I'd reply to you and tell you how wrong you are if only I could figure out how to exit this darned text editor. ^C - no... ^X - no... ESC - no... ESCESCESCESCESC - no... F1 - no... F2 - no... F3 - no... ...
[01:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:21] <exec> 08└─Sadly, I've lost my master of vi after 25 or so years stuck in Windows-land. While there, I even used microEmacs until switching to IDEs. I'm slowly regaining a bit of my former knowledge, but will never switch back for development. Not using an IDE sets the bar too high for refactoring. Maybe I sho...
[01:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:23] <exec> 08└─Not using an IDE sets the bar too high for refactoring.
[01:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thread - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:25] <exec> 08└─They needed something more tailored to programmers, something that supported syntax highlighting for various languages and remote editing via SSH. They needed to fine-tune their development environments with plugins to maximize their efficiency.
[01:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:28] <exec> 08└─You seem to have missed the "light and portable" part. When was emacs ever light? It's a virtual OS in and of itself: it has everything an OS needs except a decent text editor.
[01:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:22:30] <exec> 08└─Emacs is great, all it needs is a good text editor. / ducks
[01:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Counterpoint - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:45] <exec> 08└─As someone with a degree in mathematics, I can say that most of my freshman classmates were in Math because they hated English class in high school and wanted to never take English again. No particular liking or aptitude for Math, just chosen as the farthest distance from English.
[01:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:23:07] <exec> 08└─Why do you think it'd be nothing but gynoids? :) I have news for you, Frankie: they're gonna make androids too. With mechanical penises that change size, STAY hard, don't spooge before command (or at all), and *vibrate.* How will YOU match THAT? That blade cuts both ways...
[01:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Size - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:24:09] <exec> 08└─Here ya go: https://adnauseam.io [adnauseam.io]
[01:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Go to Michigan! - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:41] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why they don't go to Michigan. They just passed laws allowing this sort of thing.
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[02:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:23] <exec> 08└─Re-factoring: Reshaping text in a fashion that is so regular that the process can be automated (i.e., programmed). For instance, let's say you want to change the name of a variable; rather than manually finding every occurrence of the old variable name in order to replace it with the new variable na...
[02:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:28] <exec> 08└─FSF and Stallman are toxic. You cannot participate in hacking emacs without signing away your 0th child along with all of your patents and copyrights. Fuck that noise.
[02:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02solid tool. - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:30] <exec> 08└─Still use it. Solid over weak internet connections (especially to remote servers/supercomputers). I can emacs, sometimes. But for short and nicely formatted , vi(m) fits the bill. The visual stuff I rarely use, but the column stuff is useful.
[02:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02That guy? - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:32] <exec> 08└─He's history's greatest monster!
[02:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:ban mathematics - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:42] <exec> 08└─It's also a method to keep the niggers out of the better-paying jobs, although it doesn't stop the ones playing sports or getting lucky with rap music.
[02:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:46] <exec> 08└─The girl who is complaining is correct; she will never use this stuff.
[02:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:48] <exec> 08└─Just what we need, for math to be politicized so that people who don't think they need it will be even more turned off by it.
[02:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:50] <exec> 08└─Everyday "numeracy" is not worthy of the description "Mathematics"; that is not what we mean here. Mathematics is about encoding and then manipulating thoughts; most people don't need such generality in problem solving, and can get on just fine after being taught simply to follow a few a simple magi...
[02:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:22:56] <exec> 08└─The right solution isn't to improve the electorate; rather, the right solution is to abolish "Democracy". Only the Free Market makes sense; in order for good decisions to be made, the weight of your future "vote" must must be based on outcomes of your past "votes".
[02:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02re Terrorists! - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:00] <exec> 08└─Considering that it was a Muslim who invented algebra it can be argued that the Muslims have been terrorizing children for over a thousand years! (If your humor detector is broken, abstain from responding. Thank you.)
[02:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:re Terrorists! - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:23:03] <exec> 08└─Well, even before that, Muslims were cutting up children's cocks.
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[03:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Solution - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:17] <exec> 08└─Greenlanders need more fiber in their diet. Actually, I suppose we all do. Yeah, fuck you, too.
[03:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02should be oblig - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:18] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMPZ7WeDck [youtube.com]
[03:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Of course! - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:20] <exec> 08└─Damn it, Earth! You're not cooperating with us Genius Climate Scientists when we said Doomsday was going to happen in 1900 i mean 1912 i mean 1935 i mean 1960 i mean 1975 i mean 1990 i mean 1997 i mean 2000 i mean 2001 i mean 2005 i mean 2010 i mean 2020! All our models were wrong and we couldn't ex...
[03:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Of course! - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:22] <exec> 08└─A Brief History of the Apocalypse [abhota.info]. It must be run by libtards because I see they haven't included any of the scenarios that were outlined in the early 90s documentary about climate science, Captain Planet.
[03:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor? Blasphemy! - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:33] <exec> 08└─Open new terminal, then killall -9 vim Done! I may have done this a time or two to weird editors that don't understand :q! or ZZ...
[03:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:37] <exec> 08└─Refactoring? That example seems like a simple query-replace, after doing a few (tap the spacebar) to make sure it's replacing what you want, just hit "a" for all, and the rest are done.
[03:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:39] <exec> 08└─Thanks. Renaming classes and functions across files, and references within configurations files, etc, is a pain to do manually as well as error prone. It needs to be done though or you end up with the typical improperly named functions and variables as their purposes changed slightly as development...
[03:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:44] <exec> 08└─"light and portable" is why I have been using vim more than emacs the past 10 years or so. I prefer Emacs though.
[03:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:22:47] <exec> 08└─I started on Peach Text in '81 when I was six.
[03:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Problem with Vim is ... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:52] <exec> 08└─... that now that I've gotten used to it, I keep trying to use vim-like keyboard shortcuts in other programs, such as MS-Word. VimFX for Firefox helps a lot, or Vimium in Chrome. Now I just need a similar plugin for every other piece of software that I use.
[03:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:05] <exec> 08└─The last time science was heavily politicised was in the days of Trofim Lysenko [wikipedia.org]. He had his own theories of biology that were in accord with Soviet ideology, and the fact that they didn’t reflect reality resulted in disastrous agricultural policy for the Soviet Union that caused fa...
[03:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:07] <exec> 08└─Except here, the definition of "politicized" is "I don't agree with the results, therefore it can't be true".
[03:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:10] <exec> 08└─this article uses some pretty simple physics and maths that can demonstrate that anthropogenic global warming is a reasonable hypothesis
[03:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:17] <exec> 08└─According to many economic theories, people (rational actors) behave as if they know calculus. Put that in you pipe and smoke it.
[03:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:19] <exec> 08└─The vast majority of math that matters to the average person isn't calculus or any advanced maths. Basic arithmetic will do for 99% of your day to day problems(percentages, price per unit, etc...). Maybe if you really get into understanding long-term planning, compound interest would be important. S...
[03:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:23:52] <exec> 08└─Plenty of reasons to ban them. If you're female. A world with perfect 10 sexbots levels the sexual marketplace down to only being viable for the hottest women. Why put up with a less than perfect 10 who doesn't even do exactly what you want?
[03:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:"Get an AI", they said - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:00] <exec> 08└─Define "good" - will you be repaired when broken? Kept out of the elements? Upgraded? What's "good" for a robot?
[03:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Futurama - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 1322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:24:05] <exec> 08└─As we can see, ethicists and feminists have pushed past evangelicals to get to the front of the line to decry sex bots. The situation could get dicier when a couple of major milestones have been met: 1. the sex bots become cheap and good enough to have mass appeal. They don't have to be too cheap, b...
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[03:24:37] <exec> 08└─so barring a change in the law, you're risking a lot of wasted time and effort on a mod that's for personal use only
[03:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A $150 shakedown - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:25:23] <exec> 08└─Lets ignore the fact that in your ideological rage you couldn't even get the name of the company right, even though its in the title of the summary. Ok, lets not ignore it, but after pointing out that once again you've lived down to expectations, lets move on... The "shakedown" was $150. [theverge.c...
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[04:22:16] <exec> 08└─Any of those archeologists named Lentilla?
[04:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Glaciers Gallop. - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:27] <exec> 08└─lead author on the project and an ice-sheet modeler at Los Alamos.
[04:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:22:45] <exec> 08└─Just use some perl or sed script.
[04:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:0, Troll) 02Re:That guy? - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:22:54] <exec> 08└─" Dutch programmer Bram Moolenaar created his own solution and shared it for free, eventually asking only that users make a donation to a charity caring for children and families in Uganda. "
[04:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02I don't want to take sides. - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:57] <exec> 08└─I'm not even a programmer, I'm just learning emacs to keep track of shopping lists. But several guys in robes with cryptic RMS lettering said I would be expelled from The Order if I didn't come to this thread and insult vim users.
[04:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Better in every way - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:59] <exec> 08└─Nano is better than either VI VIM or emacs in every way that matters.
[04:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:15] <exec> 08└─Math is like any other language, you can frame your argument and set everything up to make your point, but there are always a few assholes out there who not only know that language but can use it to argue against you. The barrier to argument is a bit more high, but the idea remains the same. The mat...
[04:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:19] <exec> 08└─It seems that your link [skepticalscience.com] does not support your position and rather supports Tom Murphy’s initial simplistic modelling approach. But, in actuality, the globally averaged solar re-distribution approximation is not bad when we use it to describe the temperature for planets like...
[04:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score:1) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:23:28] <exec> 08└─I get that, and I agree with you. I'd say the most valuable college course I ever took was statistics. It's just that, we were taught simple interest, compound interest, etc... in school. I just don't think it's sticking in people's minds. Maybe people's financial lives would be better we drove thos...
[04:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:It is not a "Russian" scam - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:07] <exec> 08└─If found, I'm sure they will face punishment from the local government and shut down permanently. What ever gave you that crazy idea? As long as they don't do anything to defraud the Russian government, or any companies connected to it, they're free to do whatever they want online. The Russian gover...
[04:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:Shakedown - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:25:31] <exec> 08└─Yes. Somehow I confused user with Google. My bad.
[04:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what? - 06China’s Road-Straddling Bus Has Been Blocking Traffic for Months - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:14] <exec> 08└─how is it blocking traffic if it is parked in a garage?
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[05:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Nike, Adidas, etc - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:15] <exec> 08└─I expect some new lines of sandals and shoes to come out soon. The big shoe companies are going to look at these things, and try to pitch something "new" as a Roman standard. If they do it right, they can capture the public's imagination. The Romans were the marching mofos of history. I don't know i...
[05:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02marching mofos - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:17] <exec> 08└─I prefer the marching morons. Shut the fuck up, scro, I'm bating!
[05:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Of course! - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 1023 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:29] <exec> 08└─I browsed that site for a litte while. I actually remember some of those crazy predictions. There was a time in my life when I actually half-believed all the Nostradamus related predictions. "Wow, the guy had a bunch of accurate predictions, what else is real?" I was never a real believer, but that...
[05:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:48] <exec> 08└─I remember JBuilder (the Java IDE) had a cool feature where you could select a block of code and say something like "extract method/function" and it would take that code, figure out what variables were being used in that code, and create a function with the required variables passed as arguments. Th...
[05:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The Problem with Vim is ... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:22:59] <exec> 08└─Too bad you didn't train your fingers for Emacs commands, then you could load Vbacs into MS-Word http://www.rath.ca [www.rath.ca] I've been using this for 10+ years (basically at the time my work forced me to start using MS-Word). Vbacs works fairly well (not perfect), learned Emac...
[05:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:23:22] <exec> 08└─The girl who is complaining is correct; she will never use this stuff.
[05:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:23:31] <exec> 08└─Failure to understand compound interest has an ENORMOUS impact on people's financial lives... Probably more than any other math concept.
[05:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Math is not taught as everyday life - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:23:34] <exec> 08└─Mathematics in its purest forms has incredible power and beauty.
[05:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Get a Fucking Clue - 06China’s Road-Straddling Bus Has Been Blocking Traffic for Months - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:27:17] <exec> 08└─Anyone with money in China is a 'property developer'. Not many other places to park you money over there.
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[06:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02Maybe not research... - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:17] <exec> 08└─and the country doesn't have the best track record when it comes to trustworthy research.
[06:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sino Alliance - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:19] <exec> 08└─Haha, you shit-colored brown-coats thought there would be an Anglo-Sino Alliance! No fucking way. Kneel before your Chinese overlords!!
[06:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:oblig. - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:28] <exec> 08└─Imelda Marcos?
[06:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:22:57] <exec> 08└─Negative. An tool (such as Eclipse) that supports code refactoring knows the difference between the string "huge" used as a variable, and the exact same string appearing in a comment and used in other contexts. Global replace is a very crude approximation which screws up. Try refactoring a 100,000-l...
[06:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:01] <exec> 08└─While you are perfecting and debugging your script and screwing up code, you could have effortlessly refactored 100 times.
[06:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03twistedcubic [929] (Score:2) 02Re:ban mathematics - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:25] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't you be on Slashdot? What do you gain from posting this nonsense here? The audience at Slashdot is much bigger.
[06:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:37] <exec> 08└─radiative transfer is the only game in town for getting heat on and off the Earth
[06:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:38] <exec> 08└─And just how much of that heat at the earth’s core actually makes it up to the surface where it can actually warm the atmosphere? It seems to be a drop in the bucket compared to solar radiative heat transfer, even if you are talking about enough heat to make 200 cups of hot coffee for everyone on...
[06:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:23:41] <exec> 08└─Then your only quibble is about where the basics should be. And well, I’m an electronic engineer, and yes, I did use calculus a fair bit, though I did use discrete mathematics far more. And calculus I think is really needed for a proper treatment of statistics, though you can probably get a lot of...
[06:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:24:18] <exec> 08└─I don't assume they wouldn't have ones for women. Women already have a wide array of toys compared with men. And yet they're the ones that are over eager to get married. I don't see how this would change that. Robots can't procreate.
[06:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Permission is unavailable. - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:25:10] <exec> 08└─Sigh, isn't it obvious? Most ways of sharing require that you not share materials that infringe ip rights. Then there's the resulting lawsuits. So, yes, the work is wasted in cases where the rightsholder objects.
[06:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:More Patents - 06'Watershed' Discovery Reveals Plants' Medicinal Secrets - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:26:29] <exec> 08└─That's pretty much what the essentially content-free FA says... seriously, what are they smoking? Biochemists want to know!! https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[07:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 1872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:30] <exec> 08└─A little offtopic - but another take on propulsion which does not involve ejecting mass in order to get a force ( F=MA ). I got into a discussion a few months ago with a friend over whether the Cook Inertial Propulsion system [rexresearch.com] would work. He believes in it. I do not. He says he ca...
[07:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:marching mofos - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:22:41] <exec> 08└─Those morons would march right up your ass though. And, WTF is "scro"? You meant to sign your name, "Scrotum"?
[07:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Shoes are always in fashion - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:43] <exec> 08└─Scientist's who recreated Ötzi [wikipedia.org] the iceman's shoes said they were warm and had very good traction. People have been smart and adapted to their environment for a long long time.
[07:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 1711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:03] <exec> 08└─I don't agree that only the basics are needed for most people. And not just algebra and stats as some people have mentioned. Believe it or not, even Geometry has uses for many people. When you are a painter you use geometry to determine how much paint you need. You need to determine the area of the...
[07:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure there is! - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:27] <exec> 08└─Weiner!
[07:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:24:34] <exec> 08└─I believe what that particular type of woman is seeking is a credit-card charger. A woman keeps a phone charger for a similar purpose.
[07:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:The real news is - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:25:18] <exec> 08└─It's a standard reaction regardless of whether the geek in question is male or female. The main difference I've seen is usually in how much of the snarky comment is devoted to implying that the person is physically unattractive in some way.
[07:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:More Virtue Signaling - 06Even Your Watercooler is Confidential Nowadays - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:28:26] <exec> 08└─And that's exactly what people like you complain about when others do the same.
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[08:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fail, Banks, Fail - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:20] <exec> 08└─FDIC is Worthless! Fail all Banks! Down with 1%! Occupy Everything, FOREVER!!!
[08:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not research... - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:28] <exec> 08└─Testing others' inventions is not typically considered an IP violation by itself. I'm glad somebody is actually testing it in space. This gizmo would completely change space exploration if it actually works.
[08:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:33] <exec> 08└─Inertial swimming is a thing, but only works in a gravity well: http://physics.stackexchange.com [stackexchange.com]
[08:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:marching mofos - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:22:44] <exec> 08└─The cult film Idiocracy is set 500 years in the future when scro has become slang for bro. Idiocracy is loosely based on a short story called The Marching Morons in which a curmudgeon like yourself wakes up in the far future and appoints himself Hitler.
[08:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:50] <exec> 08└─Everyday "numeracy" is not worthy of the description "Mathematics"; that is not what we mean here.
[08:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:23:55] <exec> 08└─Well, how many cups of coffee is 5.1480×1018 kg of air? Therein lies your answer. That's why we need math.
[08:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:05] <exec> 08└─What is an outcome of a past vote and how should that weight future votes? And what does that have to do with any sort of market?
[08:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You realize that when Trump's rental properties - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:11] <exec> 08└─You realize that when Trump's rental properties stop producing income he stops paying the banks? Sometimes before. This is how all rich people operate - if they are not making money on it, no one does. And that is what the seminars at places like the discredited Trump U teach. So average people are...
[08:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You realize that when Trump's rental properties - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:13] <exec> 08└─When Trump's rental properties stop producing income he gets the secret service and foreign officials to rent them out.
[08:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:24:51] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, men who think like you have no chance of reproduction anyway aside from rape. It's all academic to people like you.
[08:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:1) 02Re:Go to Michigan! - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:26:29] <exec> 08└─Snow and ice.
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[09:22:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe if the NSA spent more time trying to make sure the United States of America networks/servers were secure, mainly on the government level. But I guess instead of helping the various companies fix their bugs, it's better to hoard 0-Day so you can use them against whomever (including people/serv...
[09:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:33] <exec> 08└─Please tell me more about that ducks text editor.
[09:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:36] <exec> 08└─Have you actually checked memory usage lately? Opening the same file, I see emacs with a fresh config using about 25mb and vim using a fresh config using about 15, and they both start instantly. The difference between the two is trivial and has been for a very long time. Even my extremely tweaked em...
[09:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:That guy? - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:43] <exec> 08└─He's history's greatest monster!
[09:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't want to take sides. - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:23:48] <exec> 08└─So what problem do they have with cleaning agents? [wikimedia.org] :-) Note: The inscriptions translated to English: Upper: "it cleans and prettifies all fine laundry!" Lower: "cleans dirtiest hands in next to no time!"
[09:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:You realize that when Trump's rental properties - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:24:28] <exec> 08└─You realize that when Trump's rental properties stop producing income he stops paying the banks? Sometimes before.
[09:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02They're teaching it wrong - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 1755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:36] <exec> 08└─They're teaching it wrong. The issue is sixfold (ime). *) They don't explain how/why something is the way it is (peano axioms would have been nice to learn). *) They fail "the deserted island test" (ie - having us using a calculator or a lookup table and not teach us how to create the lookup table)...
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[10:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:marching mofos - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:22:55] <exec> 08└─Runaway1965 has no scrots. We are all sorry for him. I hope he can grow a pair, as soon as he gets off the Brawando. It has electrolyles! No scrots, not brains, I aways say! What a tard! An Arkansatard! Oh, Ha! Ha, ha ha ha ha!!! Owwhee, boy he is such a tard! OMG, that has has to hurt! Runaway1...
[10:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Something went wrong. - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:58] <exec> 08└─Romans threw away pottery, leather, shoes. Modern world imports... plastic rice.
[10:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score:2) 02What I want to know - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:00] <exec> 08└─Were the damn bastards responsible for Crocs? History can show they were not, history can also damn them to hell! We need more research grants! :)
[10:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:They're teaching it wrong - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:24:36] <exec> 08└─And while griping - why don't they start each course with a surprise test consisting of last year's final exam?
[10:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Reasons - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:38] <exec> 08└─Since they are missing from the summary, here are the reasons: Solving rote problems is boring. Modeling involves making genuine choices.Nobody likes to be wrong. Modeling problems have many possible justifiable answers.Contrived story problems can be mind numbing. Modeling problems matter to the en...
[10:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:"Get an AI", they said - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:25:21] <exec> 08└─> Kept out of the elements? This is unlikely for a sex bot, isn't it?
[10:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Permission is unavailable. - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:26:00] <exec> 08└─Well, there's a solution: Get filthy rich, and then buy the rights for a sum that the current rights holder will not be able to resist. Working out the details of this plan is left as exercise to the reader. ;-)
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[11:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:NSA's fault - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:33] <exec> 08└─What's worse is that they have in the past put in [atlasobscura.com] zero day exploits too. Although the NSA’s effort puzzled crypto experts, documents leaked by Edward Snowden in 2013 proved that the NSA did indeed build a backdoor into Dual_EC_DRBG and paid RSA, a computer security company, to i...
[11:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Cyberwarfare - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 1315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:35] <exec> 08└─My thoughts for a long time have been that any adversary against the USA will use our computer systems to foul up commerce, and trip off all sorts of confusion with businesses, billing, finance, and tax collection. They don't have to go after big companies who may have people on staff who know what...
[11:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cyberwarfare - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:37] <exec> 08└─unsafe computing like visiting sites without javascript blockers
[11:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:49] <exec> 08└─I am not a physicist, but I think you're talking about the old-fashioned Æther theory [wikipedia.org]. I first read about it as a boy in the fantastic "Suske en Wiske" cartoon "De Wolkeneters [wikipedia.org]" (# 53), where professor Barabas makes a rocket that flies according to this principle. I'v...
[11:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:oblig. - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:22:58] <exec> 08└─Well done - You may push the button! (Apologies to all you folk who thought that HHGTTG started out as a book...)
[11:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:32] <exec> 08└─I completely agree. The big problem with vim is that it's just about good enough. It's the LaTeX of the editor world: it mostly works and has a huge number of extensions built on top of it that are too hard to completely rewrite, which discourages anyone from creating something that's actually good....
[11:23:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:41] <exec> 08└─Merry Christmas to you, Nerdfest, and anyone else who desires this functionality: http://clang.llvm.org Personally, though, I don't see it, man. I don't spend most of my coding time renaming things. When I do need to rename something, find/replace is usually fine, and whe...
[11:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:44] <exec> 08└─Smalltalk had this feature back in 1980 (along with inline, rename method, rename class, and a few other things). A lot of these things are now being built into the clang libraries. The clang-rename tool lets you invoke them from the command line and is designed to be invoked from editors (there are...
[11:28:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03AlwaysNever [5817] (Score:1) 02Re:What about really old PCs? - 06Raspberry Pi's PIXEL Linux Desktop Environment Now Available for x86 PCs - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:28:29] <exec> 08└─The Tecra 8000 already runs Debian "Sarge" 3.1 and IceWM. The problem is I haven't managed to get any browser newer than Iceweasel 2.0 to work in it. For email that machine is great, and IceWeasel 2.0 with the NoScript add-on works great too, but I would like to use some newer version of the browser...
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[12:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Type of research - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:44] <exec> 08└─Breathtaking research.
[12:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:09] <exec> 08└─there are two options. either what they call "EM-drive" is something completely different from what they think, in the sense of new physics, or it's pure shit. if nothing comes of it in another couple of years, it means it's shit.
[12:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:23:53] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't you be using (any kind of) source/version control these days, instead of editing/recompiling on the server?
[12:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:10] <exec> 08└─If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, then you can edit it.
[12:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:That guy? - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:19] <exec> 08└─It was a joke. I thought it was pretty obviously one.
[12:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02vi(m)'s author - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:24:26] <exec> 08└─I once read that vim's author said himself that the editor was a giant mess. Coded without any foretought and become a formless monster. Is there any truth to this? Or was it vi?
[12:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:24:54] <exec> 08└─For example I did calculus through university level (I'm a scientist). I have never, ever, ever used or needed any calculus, ever. Whereas I learned it at A-level, went on to do it at degree level, and now, in my retirement, still use it to solve everyday problems. I am not talking about exact nume...
[12:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:Reasons - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:25:18] <exec> 08└─Solving rote problems is boring. Modeling involves making genuine choices. This is probably true, however, I found out by experiment that, no matter how much I detest doing large numbers of similar problems to learn a new maths concept, it really does make it stick in the mind better and for longer...
[12:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Permission is unavailable. - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:41] <exec> 08└─It is a "derivative work" and may or may not be legal in your local jurisdiction. Disclaimer: Nothing is legal in Autraliar if a corporation is invoived.
[12:26:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Unixnut [5779] 02Re:Size - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 1562 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:26:53] <exec> 08└─It doesn't bother me at all. In fact I think it is genius. For years advertisers have been complaining and fighting (both technically and legally) to prevent ad blocking. However maybe we should change tack. Rather than fighting them head on, we should give them clicks they so desire. If rather than...
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[13:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Why I am giving up on PGP - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:32] <exec> 08└─PGP integration with mail clients ranges from nonexistent to clunky. S/MIME integration with mail clients works well. With PGP, if a key is compromised then there is no widely supported revocation mechanism. With S/MIME, the same revocation mechanism that works for SSL is used. With PGP, key exchang...
[13:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I am giving up on PGP - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:34] <exec> 08└─They should change it to PAP: Pretty Alright Privacy. I've only used PGP to communicate clunkily with a couple of other paranoids a couple of times. And as we know, the NSA is collecting encrypted messages so it can decrypt them later when it goes quantum and RSA goes down the toilet. And where's ou...
[13:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:36] <exec> 08└─PGP has its niche uses, such as signing standalone text, code, etc. It does nothing to address the biggest threats of today, which is that of criminal governments breaking into the "sacrosanct" infrastructure, and stealing the much more valuable metadata. The "killer app" for cryptography is going t...
[13:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:38] <exec> 08└─It does nothing to address the biggest threats of today
[13:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Type of research - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:47] <exec> 08└─Smells like cancer. If this works, CNN will no longer be able to air feel-good stories about dogs detecting cancer, etc.
[13:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:NSA's fault - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:58] <exec> 08└─Attack is a lot easier than defense, and it always will be. So the "China and Russia is hacking our shit!" headlines will persist, and the real question is when will the U.S. grow a pair and hack Chinese targets routinely, to steal IP or whatever. The answer might be "never", because your Stuxnet-le...
[13:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:15] <exec> 08└─EmDrive must be tickling something inside of you, because you're willing to give it two more years!
[13:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02what SoylentNews won't tell you - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:16] <exec> 08└─Roger Shawyer is just being used as a tool to legitimize stolen UFO technology without requiring disclosure of the alien intelligence who built it. Donald Trump will launch a spinning EmDrive satellite to use as a relativistic kill vehicle. It will deorbit and wipe out nearly all life on the contine...
[13:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:00] <exec> 08└─How does revision control help in any way? We are using revision control (git for most things), but that's solving a completely orthogonal problem.
[13:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:11] <exec> 08└─IDEs are kind of for people who can't learn emacs extensions or shell commands. If you do the polyglot thing and know shell, emacs, and your development language you don't need the IDE. Also there are some languages that are very verbose, COBOL, Java, and require massive verbosity which results in r...
[13:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:vi(m)'s author - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:34] <exec> 08└─It's true, and the reason why neovim [neovim.io] exists.
[13:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:ban mathematics - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:24:48] <exec> 08└─I disagree. I think having your own resident Troll means that you have "made it" in the scope of computer news websites. Think about it, every single "major" nerd news outlet has at least one resident Troll, it is part and parcel. If Soylent really was so small, he wouldn't be here, as the effort re...
[13:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:20] <exec> 08└─I'd add graph theory there. I've lost count of the number of real-world problems where a little bit of graph theory (ideally with a smidgen of game theory and information theory) gives you a quick and correct solution. Pretty much any business process problem needs these tools to solve well and yet...
[13:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:They're teaching it wrong - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:25:28] <exec> 08└─Grind it until you hate it - if you get the concept on the first or second time round, prepare for months or weeks of tedium.
[13:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck sex robots! - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:25] <exec> 08└─I couldn't come up with a witty text body.
[13:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Permission is unavailable. - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:55] <exec> 08└─Profit is irrelevant. You are guilty of copyright infringement and trademark violation, perhaps have also violated business secrets. But don't worry, the first one only lasts at least 70 years after the artist's death and the two others go on forever and ever and ever... You. Are. Going. Down. HARD.
[13:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Size - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:27:14] <exec> 08└─I will stake a bet that the browser/scraper they are using is casperjs (http://casperjs.org/), a javascript platform that sits on top of a headless browser and lets you inject, scrape and manipulate the site to your whim. It is immensely powerful, especially against modern dynamic sites where simple...
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[14:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I am giving up on PGP - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:39] <exec> 08└─I've always found PGP integration in Thunderbird and KMail work very nicely. Certainly as well as commercial extensions like Entrust to Outlook, which many people seem to consider the 'reference' email client.
[14:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:42] <exec> 08└─Also there's no "breaking into" there's intentional cooperation and at absolute worst requiring NSLs.
[14:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:44] <exec> 08└─The NSL applies to the employees not the dirt the server sits on. Putting the server on swiss dirt does nothing if the corporation is founded in CT and the admin who got the letter is in the USA. If by "can't read the user data" you mean they encoded it in 40 bit DES, well, technically "cat" and "se...
[14:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wider scope of ailments - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:54] <exec> 08└─Until cancer, could they just use it for throat infections? >designed to detect only one kind of disease, such as... diabetes Easy-peasy. Put a drop of blood on the hot plate, if it smells of caramel it's diabetes.
[14:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Cyberwarfare - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:07] <exec> 08└─Something I just noticed while writing my latest submission: USCYBERCOM is now elevated out of USSTRATCOM and into the Unified Combatant Command. Maybe that will make a difference, maybe not. http://thehill.com [thehill.com]
[14:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:23] <exec> 08└─> Now replace the pathway with a pipe of the same curvature - and pump water ( a continuous mass ) along the circuit. Does the whole shebang do anything but make noise and get hot? From watching coiled hoses, the loop will also try to straighten out (uncoil).
[14:23:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Nike, Adidas, etc - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 379 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:35] <exec> 08└─I expect some new lines of sandals and shoes to come out soon. The big shoe companies are going to look at these things, and try to pitch something "new" as a Roman standard. If they do it right, they can capture the public's imagination. The Romans were the marching mofos of history. I don't know i...
[14:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 1974 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:13] <exec> 08└─Lately I've been playing with a chromebook having 64 GB of memory and several TB of partially SSD database storage. Well, the chromebook is actually very weak and running VNC to a really big openstack image on a rack somewhere near the NAS racks. Its pretty fast. VNC means no weird font/UTF-8 proble...
[14:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Lost Art - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:24] <exec> 08└─Emacs extensions and shell scripts don't take syntax into account. Just because something happens to be the same word doesn't mean it's exactly the same. I'm a fan of using the right tool for the job. If I wanted to show how hardcore a developer I was, I'd use echo and sed. :)
[14:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 1896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:36] <exec> 08└─Light and portable is VIM its for everywhere other than my $HOME for less than 5 minute jobs. An interesting way to look at it is word choice, if its all "me" and "edit" or "develop" type words then it lives under $HOME and I'm in emacs, if the word choices are all 3rd person over there where I'm "f...
[14:24:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03snufu [5855] 02I don't want to take sides. - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 230 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not even a programmer, I'm just learning emacs to keep track of shopping lists. But several guys in robes with cryptic RMS lettering said I would be expelled from The Order if I didn't come to this thread and insult vim users.
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[15:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02cornucopia of gene editing tools - 06Compact CRISPR Systems Found in Some of World's Smallest Microbes - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:29] <exec> 08└─Test it against CRISPR/Cas9 in bacteria or mouse embryos and see if it has a lower error rate.
[15:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Lost in noise" - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 1172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:43] <exec> 08└─i think i set it up a looong time ago on a NT computer? you had to wiggle the mouse cursor on the screen during install/setup to generate a private key? it never moved beyonf the point because i found out that nobody in the family with access (to my computer) had that much of a clue to mess with my...
[15:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Using dogs to sniff out cancer - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:53] <exec> 08└─Been in the news for more than 10 years [cbsnews.com].
[15:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not research... - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:16] <exec> 08└─The inventor of the drive has said in multiple interviews over the past few years that the Chinese have been testing for over a decade now. He gave them (sold, I would imagine) the details willingly in the late 90s/early2000s. No stealing necessary.
[15:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I bet its true - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:26] <exec> 08└─Its not like they developed this, its well known how to build this and its not that complex. They want to get a jump on everyone else. I can buy that.
[15:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:oblig. - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:36] <exec> 08└─PUPIL: Woo-ha-ha! Yee-he-hehooo! Ah-ha. Oh, that’s nice. Thank you teach. Goodbye. COMPU-TEACH: Ah-ah! Aren’t you forgetting something? PUPIL: What? COMPU-TEACH: Press the other button. PUPIL: Oh, right. [Other button is pressed. A big surge of energy] COMPU-TEACH: Oh-ho-ho! Ooooo, ooooo-waaahhh...
[15:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02421? - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:46] <exec> 08└─Did they find the pegleg?
[15:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Troll? - 06Russian Scam Claimed to Net $5 Million Per Day - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:27:35] <exec> 08└─Seriously? Some fucking AC gets upset when a scam that originated in Russia is called a "Russian" scam...because they remember that they're not supposed to believe any hacking originates in Russia...and someone mods this as troll?
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[16:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Poseidon - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:30] <exec> 08└─Watch out for the BoS then...
[16:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Using dogs to sniff out cancer - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:03] <exec> 08└─This system doesn't poop on the floor.
[16:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Using dogs to sniff out cancer - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:04] <exec> 08└─The dogs require fairly extensive training, to learn to identify a single disease. This thing can identify 17 different diseases, all at the same time. If it fails to alert on you, then you can be fairly sure that you don't have any of those 17 diseases. The algorithms can be installed into breathal...
[16:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02credit where credit is due - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:06] <exec> 08└─My first post probably sounds dismissive of dogs, and their ability to sniff out disease. I don't mean it to sound that way. Someone actually paid attention to a canine, and figured out that the dog was smarter than humans. The dogs are pretty awesome. They probably CAN sniff out a lot more diseases...
[16:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:38] <exec> 08└─Bogus, bogus, bogus. I don't fully understand his proposed device from reading that page, but the justification for how it works is bogus. He invokes a helicopter traveling at constant speed, and notes the difference in kinetic energy of the advancing and retreating blades, obviously without noting...
[16:23:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Who cares who is trying it? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 1388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:41] <exec> 08└─I just care that somebody IS trying it. Enough talk, time to find out if this is a waste of time or the beginning of a new age of exploration. If China gets results it isn't like they would be able to keep it secret very long. If it works they would want to use it and once you do it is pretty obviou...
[16:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares who is trying it? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:43] <exec> 08└─I just care that somebody IS trying it.
[16:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:32] <exec> 08└─It's not completely crazy to think of git as a network filesystem with excellent disconnected-mode operation.
[16:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Copy/Paste To/From - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:09] <exec> 08└─If I can't copy/paste from a program, that's not a benefit but a huge annoyance. And that includes XTerm.
[16:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:They're teaching it wrong - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:26:05] <exec> 08└─This is along the lines of my first thought, too. Given the number of high school graduates that have to take remedial math classes in college to get up to high school graduate level, they need to figure out how the teach basic math before they move on to adding mathematical modeling to the curricul...
[16:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score:2) 02Keep the change - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:09] <exec> 08└─Why do we have to learn math for 12 years when we are never going to use any of it?
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[17:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Well that's great - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:42] <exec> 08└─If I had to guess, the city public works of Las Vegas doesn't participate in much of the wasteful glowiness, besides maybe the famous "Welcome to Las Vegas" sign. But yeah, good luck convincing the president elect he needs less than 8 15000 lumen spotlights on his name on his casino.
[17:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Barney wants to know - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:43] <exec> 08└─From another article [popularmechanics.com]: Las Vegas began its renewable energy project in 2008, reducing electricity usage through sustainability programs and installing solar panels on city buildings. Las Vegas will also receive power from Hoover Dam for the first time in its history, starting...
[17:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Leebert [3511] (Score:3, Informative) 02LV - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:46] <exec> 08└─Aside from the "not the whole city, just the municipal facilities" thing, what bugs me about this story is that it makes people think about the Las Vegas "Strip", with its power-hungry glowing bright lights everywhere. Except the strip isn't even *in* the city of Las Vegas -- it's in an unincorporat...
[17:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why I am giving up on PGP - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:02] <exec> 08└─Outlook does S/MIME natively, with no plugin or addon. The iPad, iPhone, iPod even, and most other iDistractions all do S/MIME natively, probably because the DOD uses S/MIME extensively and likely requires it for procurement. If the DOD thinks it worth using and it's supported on every client under...
[17:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wider scope of ailments - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:18] <exec> 08└─Until cancer, could they just use it for throat infections?
[17:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Using dogs to sniff out cancer - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:21] <exec> 08└─This system doesn't poop on the floor.
[17:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NSA's fault - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:36] <exec> 08└─Attack is a lot easier than defense, and it always will be.
[17:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what SoylentNews won't tell you - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:59] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Just like, as once claimed on Coast to Coast AM, the gummint handed Ken Olsen the plans for the PDP-1, which they had reverse-engineered from the Roswell crash. That's right, those fantastically advanced aliens flew across interstellar gulfs to arrive at Earth thanks to the amazing computing...
[17:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Math is not taught as everyday life - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 979 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:26:17] <exec> 08└─The earliest classes are going to involve things that aren't inherently interesting to anybody. I personally found math up to intermediate algebra to be tedious and of limited utility. And even working in math daily that still stands. But, you can't skip those classes without consequences. But, you...
[17:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:What about really old PCs? - 06Raspberry Pi's PIXEL Linux Desktop Environment Now Available for x86 PCs - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:15] <exec> 08└─Even my much newer (i.e., "only" 8+ years old...) Core 2 Duo machine struggles with any modern browser. The WWW is a bloated, ugly, script-laden mess. The best you'll get is continuing to use that, or perhaps trying something even less functional like Dillo or Links in graphical mode.
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[18:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Fallout: New Vegas - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:55] <exec> 08└─Just got a little closer to reality. Now all we need are giant lase beams on the top of the Wynn or something...
[18:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what SoylentNews won't tell you - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:08] <exec> 08└─t will deorbit and wipe out nearly all life on the continent of choice
[18:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:05] <exec> 08└─To put some actual numbers on this, the average heating due to geothermal activity is estimated to be 0.09 watts [wiley.com] per square meter. The average heating due to elevated greenhouse gases is estimated (by NASA) to be 0.8 watts [nasa.gov] per square meter. So yes, it is significant.
[18:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sure there is! - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:57] <exec> 08└─I'm just going to practice cyber-bondage with my robot-waifu and lock her inside the firewall.
[18:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:27:04] <exec> 08└─You'd be surprised. Considering that women are just as likely as men to dump sombody they're dating, but twice as likely to initiate a divorce, it seems fairly obvious that they do a worse job selecting a husband than men do selecting wives. And keep in mind that women typically won't even see men t...
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[19:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Bittersweet rememberances - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:41] <exec> 08└─The tone of this summary is so bittersweet, as a cherished memory fades for the OP, who played it. But as someone who never played it, the response is much more "They managed to milk a profit out of their player-base for over 15 years? Whoa."
[19:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Building your castles on sand - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:42] <exec> 08└─Is just stupid. It won't last.
[19:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe not research... - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:57] <exec> 08└─Except, you don't need to test it in space ...... seriously, understand the science behind it first, then tune it then use it. You don't get to skip the first parts.
[19:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:06] <exec> 08└─there is now a peer reviewed paper where they detail an experiment where a force is measured, even though i don't expect a force to be there. i'm pretty sure others will try to replicate this within 2 years, and apparently it's not hard to scale it up, so they should also do that. If the results are...
[19:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:EM drive like inertial propulsion? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:10] <exec> 08└─One thing I do not know is if there is a magnetic field that permeates space in the same manner we have a localized magnetic field covering this entire planet.
[19:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who cares who is trying it? - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:18] <exec> 08└─What can't crowd-funding do?
[19:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:421? - 06The Roman Shoe Hoard of Vindolanda - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:39] <exec> 08└─The appeal doesn't say that any of the shoes made a pair.
[19:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor? Blasphemy! - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:25:06] <exec> 08└─Back when I started to play with Linux, there was this program that did a system check, one thing it did as part of this process was to dump you into this strange editor, you had to make any changes as needed. None was needed, but as the parent pointed out, I did literally tried all the above. I eve...
[19:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:STEM is self-selecting - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:13] <exec> 08└─The link says exactly what I said it says... whatever else you are talking about doesn't make this model less nonsensical. Stop using it!
[19:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Most won't need it. - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:34] <exec> 08└─Absolutely agree. I wasn't advocating for "abstract theories about compound interest," but rather essential applications of it first and then relevant theory/abstraction to begin to develop a deeper intuition. When I was teaching high school, one of the other teachers completely revamped the "genera...
[19:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Reasons - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:26:50] <exec> 08└─I used to like applications right up until I realized how broken they were. The applications are often written by mathematicians to isolate a concept giving something that is completely useless for anything else. For example, doing parabolic motion in terms of horizontal displacement rather than tim...
[19:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:20] <exec> 08└─Sounds like someone's speaking from personal experience here. Frankie, this is gonna sound weird coming from a lesbian but the best thing I can advise you to do is stop putting women on pedestals. We're humans, no better and no worse than you are. That means the majority of women, like the majority...
[19:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:21] <exec> 08└─I'm very much aware that women aren't perfect. But, given society's rather generous freebies given to women, they should be held to a higher standard. After all, for those to whom more is given, more should be expected. Marriage is a partnership and in too many cases the woman checks out and retains...
[19:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Futurama - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:27:44] <exec> 08└─So you don't think creating a sentient being and condemning it to a life of sex slavery is, at the very least, unethical?
[19:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Permission is unavailable. - 06Nintendo Stops Pokémon Gold Modder - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:23] <exec> 08└─Just determining if it's legal can cost hundreds of dollars. And even if it is a legal derivative work, you're still looking at the possibility of a trial if they don't back down. But, in this case, they've likely violated Nintendo's trademark, which does require a response or Nintendo could lose it...
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[20:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02increase entrepreneurship - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:34] <exec> 08└─translation "more fresh young bright-eyed fodder for VCs to chew up and spit out as the kids try to grab for the brass ring"
[20:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:increase entrepreneurship - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:36] <exec> 08└─It's like the old saying that the meat of ponies is ineffective compared to the metallic feel of an old washing board.
[20:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:38] <exec> 08└─Statistical significance is a function of sample size. Let's look at the thesis: Data were collected from 16 entrepreneurship educators
[20:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Farewell - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:48] <exec> 08└─I played the game in its heyday. It was pretty fun for its time. Though, I wasn't very good. I only made it to level 30-something mainly because I spec'd my skills wrong and gimped my character. Was my first foray into MMO's and I never could get into them. Way too much time to spend on a game. My b...
[20:22:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Leebert [3511] 02LV - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 326 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:58] <exec> 08└─Aside from the "not the whole city, just the municipal facilities" thing, what bugs me about this story is that it makes people think about the Las Vegas "Strip", with its power-hungry glowing bright lights everywhere. Except the strip isn't even *in* the city of Las Vegas -- it's in an unincorporat...
[20:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Still OK - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:01] <exec> 08└─It's still OK for you alt-rights to go there though, since they still shit on the earth by wasting a lot of water.
[20:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dlb [4790] (Score:2) 02A little more background. - 06Compact CRISPR Systems Found in Some of World's Smallest Microbes - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:10] <exec> 08└─Here's a nice background summary of gene-editing, along with a few interesting whatif's...both pro and con. Genetic Engineering Will Change Everything Forever – CRISPR [youtube.com].
[20:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Build a wall... - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:55] <exec> 08└─...and make China pay for it.
[20:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02subglacial "swamps" - 06Leaky Plumbing Impedes Greenland Ice Sheet Flow - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:57] <exec> 08└─There's only one guy who can fix this. So glad we picked him!
[20:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:41] <exec> 08└─> When was emacs ever light? When did computers ever have more than 8 MB of RAM?
[20:29:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02What's the takeaway - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 31 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:07] <exec> 08└─Uber Backs Off in San Francisco
[20:29:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03darkfeline [1030] 02Re:What's the takeaway - 06Uber Backs Off in San Francisco - 1272 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:10] <exec> 08└─>The cars had some driving assist technology but required a human driver to be in control at all times, even if only supervisory for certain well-defined situations, far from the "Total Recall" "Johnny Cab" magic driverless car business that so many in the media (and in the California government) se...
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[21:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:26] <exec> 08└─Erm... the sample size for the study would be the students of those 16 educators, presumably reaching well into the hundreds. If there were a real effect size larger than a couple percentage points, that sample size would have found it within at least 3 sigma. Admittedly, something trivial could be...
[21:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:27] <exec> 08└─The elephant in the room, of course, is that there is no objective reliable way to measure the effectiveness of a university course in this situation.
[21:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:29] <exec> 08└─I see this blurb from the abstract for the dissertation: Experiential EE was associated with higher skill-based and affective outcomes than traditional EE, but only in Estonia.
[21:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 2286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:31] <exec> 08└─Isn't that lack of a difference proof in itself that something is wrong with the study? Those seem like wildly different learning experiences, so there should be at least some differences in outcome. Could be a lack of cause and effect between whats being tested and measured, or perhaps whats being...
[21:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02A couple of possible points - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 1228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:34] <exec> 08└─As a college instructor, I think it is important that theory is brought into contact with reality. Very few students want to learn theory for theory's sake. That said: - There are only so many hours in a curriculum. Every hour spent doing a practical project is an hour not spent in the classroom or...
[21:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Founding a business and failing... - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:36] <exec> 08└─...is cheaper than most textbooks.
[21:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Informative) 02deep link - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:47] <exec> 08└─Another article on the same site quotes the company's announcement, saying the closure will be on 31 January. https://web.archive.org [archive.org]
[21:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Poseidon - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:57] <exec> 08└─Watch out for the BoS then...
[21:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Poseidon - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:59] <exec> 08└─Brotherhood of Steel?
[21:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Well that's great - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:03] <exec> 08└─Look at the way the city hall is lit. http://www.yesco.com [yesco.com] https://player.vimeo.com [vimeo.com] (Flash required) http://cdn.archinect.net [archinect.net] http://cdn.archinect.net [...
[21:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Well that's great - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:05] <exec> 08└─From the last page I linked: [...] its blue waterfall of LED lights, makes it look like water is pouring down the front of the building.
[21:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Well that's great - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:07] <exec> 08└─Well, damn. I suppose that pretty much completely invalidates my argument, as it sticks a giant spiky fork in one of the core propositions. Los Vegas government: the GGP was right, stop being so wasteful.
[21:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Econonics, not virtue signaling - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:13] <exec> 08└─Stop with the preening and virtue signaling. The more Proggies brag about how Holy they are as they spend other people's money to buy green grace, the more convinced normal people are that it is just a scam. You want 'green energy' widely adopted it is easy, wait until it becomes price competitive....
[21:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A little more background. - 06Compact CRISPR Systems Found in Some of World's Smallest Microbes - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:24] <exec> 08└─Obviously not, since it's just a youtube link.
[21:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:39] <exec> 08└─🤨 (Face With One Eyebrow Raised) Weren't you touting Crimean hosting earlier this month? A story from April Fool's Day in 2003 said: Swiss Internet Service Providers (ISPs) will have to keep a log for six months of all the emails sent by their customers.
[21:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:40] <exec> 08└─That last link should say "another Swiss e-mail service (I'm not a customer)."
[21:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Both sides have points, bottom line security sucks - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 1707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:44] <exec> 08└─Yup, security sucks. It shouldn't and doesn't have do, but it does. Flippo Valsorda sounds like the typical crypto weenie I slag on often. Hours and hours studying the details, attending key signing parties, standalone Pi to hold the keys, all that effort and then realizes after the fact he doesn't...
[21:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Vim is the greatest editor... - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:35] <exec> 08└─Except that if you're doing your building and testing on another machine (i.e. the reason you need a network filesystem) then git is a terrible network filesystem, because you have to commit and push all of your changes just to build test them, then interactive rebase them locally to remove all of t...
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[22:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02pimping? with hos? - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:32] <exec> 08└─It's less likely than you think. More likely Kamala [wikipedia.org] wants to pull an Obama. On November 8, 2016, she defeated Loretta Sanchez in the 2016 U.S. Senate election to replace outgoing Democratic senator Barbara Boxer, becoming the second black woman and first Indian American elected to se...
[22:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02What new evidence? - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:34] <exec> 08└─illegally funnelled money through multiple companies and created various websites to get around banks that refused to process transactions
[22:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:47] <exec> 08└─Errr.... No. You're completely full of shit? And don't really know how longitudinal studies work? At all? If you can 100% verify that each of your "buckets" suits the independent variable condition, it doesn't matter how many there are. "Oh no!" says user khallow, "this drug trial only included 3000...
[22:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:50] <exec> 08└─One explanation could be that neither experience nor book learning has much effect on entrepreneurial success.
[22:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:A couple of possible points - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:53] <exec> 08└─The point of practicum is more in evaluation and motivation than actual learning. It has a tendency to balance out the knowledge and help develop a sense of context. A well-designed textbook should be able to do that at least as effectively by simplifying and sequencing information for more effectiv...
[22:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02feh - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:56] <exec> 08└─entrepreneurship - sports - lottery it's all the same i play the lottery occasionally because it's honest i don't pretend that my chance of winning has anything the fuck to do with how much effort i put into it the other two are deceptive many try, one wins for that one, life turns from a pile of re...
[22:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Building your castles on sand - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:07] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your constructive criticism of all of humanity's collective efforts from the beginning of recorded history up to the present day. Do you have any alternative place to build things? I'm only seeing sand around here. "Time crystals" [soylentnews.org] might be a valid response, but pics o...
[22:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Farewell - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:10] <exec> 08└─Some were hilariously epic though.
[22:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:deep link - 06Turbine to Shut Down Asheron's Call in January 2017 - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:13] <exec> 08└─You are correct, it is the 31st. I must have misread the date when I edited this story. My apologies.
[22:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Why I am giving up on PGP - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:53] <exec> 08└─Both your argument and the original article's argument is "PGP support sucks" which is 1. not a problem with PGP itself and 2. a chicken-and-egg problem of adoption. PGP itself works entirely as intended. In my opinion, all we really need is PGP integration into Gmail. Give Google your public key, a...
[22:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:00] <exec> 08└─ProtonMail is outside the scope of the Swiss Federal Act on the Surveillance of Postal and Telecommunications Traffic. This act governs lawful Swiss interception of electronic communications.
[22:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is the wrong solution for many ptoblems - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:03] <exec> 08└─They explain why: In the SPTT, the obligation to provide the technical means for lawful interception is imposed only on Internet access providers so the Company, as an Internet application provider, is not subject to this obligation and cannot be compelled to build in the technical means to interce...
[22:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Both sides have points, bottom line security su - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:07] <exec> 08└─Signal is open source. https://github.com [github.com] https://github.com [github.com]
[22:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:Both sides have points, bottom line security su - 06Op-Ed: Why I'm Not Giving Up on PGP - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:09] <exec> 08└─Delivered through platforms hostile to it. All iOS and any Android apps from Play are signed with the Apple or Google key + the developer key. Build all the binaries you want, it won't install (by the time you are done describing side-loading you have lost 99% of the audience) and if you read the ar...
[22:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:credit where credit is due - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:25] <exec> 08└─They probably CAN sniff out a lot more diseases, without any training on our part.
[22:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:NSA's fault - 06FBI Probes FDIC Hack Linked to China's Military - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:37] <exec> 08└─the real question is when will the U.S. grow a pair and hack Chinese targets routinely, to steal IP or whatever.
[22:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Starting the obligatory emacs vs. vim flame thr - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:28] <exec> 08└─If I'm writing code, light and portable is about the last thing on my list of requirements. What I want are features that help me write code and don't get in my way (the "don't get in my way" is where most fat IDEs fail). I don't care too much if my editor needs an extra GB of RAM if it can write 40...
[22:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Copy/Paste To/From - 06Vim Creator Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing the Popular Text Editor, How He Uses It - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:26:44] <exec> 08└─You are supposed to click with the left then right mouse button to select, then use the center button to paste. Some programs such a firefox don't appear to implement this correctly though.
[22:27:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jelizondo [653] 02re Terrorists! - 065 Reasons to Teach Mathematical Modeling - 218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:36] <exec> 08└─Considering that it was a Muslim who invented algebra it can be argued that the Muslims have been terrorizing children for over a thousand years! (If your humor detector is broken, abstain from responding. Thank you.)
[22:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:16] <exec> 08└─Aaaaaaand this is like reason #927984634532 I'm glad to be a lesbian. Holy. Fuck. With how straight people are constantly tearing one another down along the gender divide I'm just amazed any of you manage to reproduce at all.
[22:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-sentient - 06Sex Robots: Experts Debate the Rise of the Love Droids - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:28:17] <exec> 08└─A credit card *is* a charger.
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[23:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What new evidence? - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:23] <exec> 08└─What new evidence?
[23:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score:2) 02Re:What new evidence? - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 1653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:24] <exec> 08└─The previous charges were dismissed because the Communications Decency Act specifically exempted website owners from legal responsibility of the actions of their third-party users. For example, Craigslist isn't guilty of a crime just because someone tries to sell stolen goods via a Craigslist Ad. To...
[23:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02double jeopardy - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:26] <exec> 08└─We've seen this a number of times. Someone with an over inflated sense of self importance just can't let things go. These people were dismissed, but this woman won't allow some stupid judge to over rule her judgement. The defendants are evil, so they must pay. In this case, "Because I'm a congress c...
[23:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02f'ing california - 06California Attorney General Pursues New Charges Against Backpage CEO - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:29] <exec> 08└─so this "I AM THE LAW" idiot is going to be in the US Senate? :( :( :(
[23:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Statistical significance - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:43] <exec> 08└─If you can 100% verify that each of your "buckets" suits the independent variable condition
[23:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:A couple of possible points - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:48] <exec> 08└─There's also a huge difference between "hands on lab course 4 hours a week" and living the job 60 hours a week for a year. Real hands-on entrepreneurship, any level position in a small startup company, is BETTER than any MBA. Not surprising that the for-profit education system is trying to run them...
[23:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The study I'd rather see... - 06Entrepreneurial Experiences 'No Better Than Textbooks,' Says Study - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:52] <exec> 08└─According to tfs, this study was for two variations of a college curriculum. Wouldn't it be more interesting to compare outcomes between undergrads that went straight into business and got some real "hard knocks" experience, vs students that went on to grad school, delaying real world experience? My...
[23:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Still OK - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:24] <exec> 08└─You misspelt fascist
[23:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Never done so before - 06Las Vegas Now "Completely" Powered by Renewable Energy - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:27] <exec> 08└─There also appears to be plans for the city to tap into the Hoover Dam, which despite being in the same state, Las Vegas has apparently never done so before.
[23:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wife's cunt - 06Scientists Identify Unique "Breathprint" of 17 Diseases - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:18] <exec> 08└─I hope they can adapt this thing to snifff out what the fuck is wrong with my wife's stinky crotch?
[23:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe not research... - 06Space Race 2.0: China May Already be Testing an EmDrive in Orbit - 1010 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:45] <exec> 08└─History is filled with times when a technology was used before it was full understood. Gunpowder and nuclear energy come to mind, no one understood chemistry of gunpowder when it was in wide spread use and we started building and using fission reactors long before we fully understood the science nee...
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[23:28:26] <exec> 08└─Whatever "rain" may fall in a bedroom, it's likely not as hard on the moving parts as being parked in a field.
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