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[14:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03zion-fueled [8646] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:03] <exec> 08└─So the mechanism is in place where Microsoft could now force the windows as a service update to 10 whether users want to keep using the old version or not. All they have to do is say the magic words: "security".
[14:14:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 343 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:05] <exec> 08└─How about countries under American sanctions? Like Venezuela for example. Forcing Windows upgrade on users in Venezuela seems unlawful by U.S. law, it is obviously a transfer of technology. The others will get what they deserve, for sure. That brings an idea: if one switches system locale to Venezue...
[14:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:07] <exec> 08└─Maybe the Chinese have a point [soylentnews.org]. Really, doesn't seem like much difference any more.
[14:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:20] <exec> 08└─Or we could do as the Zoroastrians do and leave our dead in "Towers of Silence" for carrion birds to eat them; that way, we give the birds flu.
[14:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 1305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:22] <exec> 08└─well, this is a first step. regular science (and religion) cannot really discern between coffin burial, oven burial or cover-with-dirt burial. dead is dead, right? doesn't matter what happens next. ofc oven burial is the cheapest, fastest/easiest and has the most "efficient" output. burning shit to...
[14:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:24] <exec> 08└─This is not a first step. Before embalming, everyone who was buried was turned into dirt. And a lot cheaper . And serial killers still do it.
[14:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:26] <exec> 08└─It doesn't have to be a waste, you could use the excess heat to warm things up such as buildings.
[14:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CRISPR-Resistant Viruses Build 'Safe Rooms' to Shield Genomes From DNA-Dicing Enzymes - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:36] <exec> 08└─No, vitamin c oxidizes too easily.
[14:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CRISPR-Resistant Viruses Build 'Safe Rooms' to Shield Genomes From DNA-Dicing Enzymes - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:38] <exec> 08└─And if all Vitamen C does is prevent scurvy, why do other animals produce 10-100x the dose required to that (2-20 g per kg day).
[14:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:49] <exec> 08└─I work out my frustrations in the gym after work almost every day. Usually it's a steady pace but like someone once said, in times of great stress a startling metamorphosis occurs...
[14:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03deathlyslow [2818] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:50] <exec> 08└─Dr. Banner is that you?
[14:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:18] <exec> 08└─Considering that the original Israeli version was just a Hellfire with a dummy warhead and that it could easily scrap a car, I must agree with you.
[14:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:19] <exec> 08└─some virtual version of this must have hit the writer of the title:"this photo proves how XYZ works". wtf? did they mean "this photo proves THAT XYZ works"? anyways, it should be called "the hellsword" -or- "hellblade(s)" or sumething? next up: the missile/rocket that curses the target with bad luck...
[14:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Storing Data in Everyday Objects - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:33] <exec> 08└─oh the irony: in a few decades when aliens visit earth for the first time and see the modern cities, they will ask why everything looks so non-functional? the answer from the earthling, behind the hand, will be so there's enough space to hide all the holy books of all earth religion in dna-nano-bead...
[14:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:53] <exec> 08└─But the reservoir is dry. That is, there are lots of ways to get content now, but the content is lacking. Hollywood has destroyed so many beloved franchises, so quickly. YouTube has had stuff in the past, but now they're changing their algorithm and killing off independent creators.
[14:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:54] <exec> 08└─IMO, there's no shortage of good content (not just TV/movies, but podcasts, etc). There's enough to watch/listen to 24/7, forever. Finding it is the problem.
[14:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:56] <exec> 08└─While that does sound like a self-entitled spoiled brat if you can get past his sarcasm, you might see his real point. He pays for Netflix so he can get shows legally for his son. He looks elsewhere when Netflix pulls it but can't seam to find it. What's left? He was trying to have legal access with...
[14:16:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:24] <exec> 08└─The reason for going there in the first place was to reopen the opium pipelines the Taliban so effectively cut off [bbc.co.uk]. In that regard, the war was a trivial matter and very successful. Yep, it's an opium war, just like the old days. You can put all that righteous indignation over the Bin La...
[14:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:23] <exec> 08└─Oh, well. The US did get bin Laden, and I'm sure they caused the Taliban plenty of pain. Those things should have been enough to declare victory and go home, having reinforced the notion that attacks from foreign soil will not be tolerated. The US can reserve the right to bomb the shit out of Afghan...
[14:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:24] <exec> 08└─The US can reserve the right to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan whenever they want
[14:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:05] <exec> 08└─For an obvious shill you're been pretty blatant about your FUD spewing and astroturfing. Go check if the American right wing idiots have payed you your salary yet! Trump is known for not paying his shills :D
[14:21:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PhilSalkie [3571] 02 - 06Don't Look Behind the Curtain--Peak Load Tesla Superchargers Are Diesel - 7365 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:21:31] <exec> 08└─Two Model S here - P85D and P100DL, I've put about 70,000 miles on them so far, most of that distance road trips. Over 400 supercharge events at more than 70 locations east of the Mississippi, never saw a temporary Supercharger setup or a diesel generator supplying power - and never had to wait more...
[14:21:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Don't Look Behind the Curtain--Peak Load Tesla Superchargers Are Diesel - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:21:39] <exec> 08└─So, they used this to ease the transition, nothing really to see here. It seems to me that most people will not be using super-chargers all that much anyway as they will mostly use in-house chargers. The super-chargers were just there to make people not fear the range issue so much. I think it is go...
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[15:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:23] <exec> 08└─People like you, I'm sure, would be directed to Choice 8, or failing that, the nearest exit. ;)
[15:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:24] <exec> 08└─You mean Choice 9: Choose another OS
[15:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:26] <exec> 08└─It's a subliminal message: F BAD
[15:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:29] <exec> 08└─Choice 9: WWMD: What Would Microsoft Do Seems like this should be an SN poll. We need new SN polls. And a mechanism to submit poll ideas.
[15:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:31] <exec> 08└─It is all just politically correct collectivism with only residual traces of rationality. Best rational option is: split Debian to multiple projects, by what people truly need of it and what they really do for their needs. Devuan separatists got it right.
[15:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:33] <exec> 08└─The first vote was gamed. I expect this one to be more of the same. Even if "dump systemd" or "allow multiple inits" succeeds, the entrenched proSystemD-ers will just drown it all in red(hat) tape, "minutes meetings", and rules-lawyering, and substandrd package/patch compliance until they get their...
[15:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:35] <exec> 08└─To the contrary. There is a lot of duplication of efforts going on in the larger Linux/BSD community. Start with hosting, bug tracking, packaging systems, packaging itself and there is no end in sight. Freedom it is and it is everybody's choice, I do cherish that for sure. In terms of market penetra...
[15:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:37] <exec> 08└─"collectivism"- I like that. I lump that in with "popular misconception". Yes, agreed on all points. The flaw I see is a lack of choice, including the survey: how about giving us a choice of init system?
[15:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:40] <exec> 08└─You make good points, but I think a big problem is when a company makes "business decisions" (technical decisions made by non-technical idiots), such as going all MS, or all RedHat, the employees either adapt and learn, or look for another job. And the ones who adapt and learn are sometimes poison k...
[15:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:42] <exec> 08└─"There is a lot of duplication of efforts" That's not a bad thing. "In terms of market penetration, Linux would be much more effective if efforts would concentrate on fewer distributions." I doubt that very much, in fact I'll go so far as to say the opposite is far more likely to be true. Different...
[15:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 1370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:44] <exec> 08└─Choice 6: E: Support for multiple init systems is Required The Windows Phan Bois have been telling us for years (is it decades now?) that much of Linux' security is just security through obscurity. And, they make a point. Happy Hackers of Hoboken have worked for months to develop an exploit in Red H...
[15:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:54] <exec> 08└─I have a tablet with Windows 10 that can't finish upgrading from 1810. For some reason, it can't run while charging. It doesn't have the battery capacity to finish the upgrade before the batteries run down, so the upgrade always fails and is rolled back. Not to mention it doesn't have enough free st...
[15:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:56] <exec> 08└─It's not like they've been quiet or obscuring this as their plan; it's been pretty plainly obvious as I'm sure you know.
[15:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:58] <exec> 08└─So have they fixed the issue where the upgrade tries to update the Bootloader and trips up over GRUB and fails the entire upgrade? Looking forward to multiple pointless reboots next time I try and boot Windows. Yay!
[15:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:16] <exec> 08└─Do with it as you wish.
[15:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:39] <exec> 08└─I believe I can safely say that addiction to exercise is not a problem anyone here on Soylent News will ever experience.
[15:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:41] <exec> 08└─Proving yet again that Soylent News caters to the fringes... I am one of those who has been addicted to exercise, and diagnosed as such.
[15:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Time Benjamin Franklin Tried (and Failed) to Electrocute a Turkey - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:55] <exec> 08└─The description of the Leyden jar is bogus. Instead of looking at the picture, they should have read the text. A Leyden jar is a capacitor that holds static electricity made out of a glass jar for an insulator and lined with metal foil. No water. Also,when Ben Franklin tried to shock the turkeys, h...
[15:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:12] <exec> 08└─Apparently the weapon is just another example of the anti-personnel flechette: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Flechettes were widely used in the Vietnam war in the "beehive" artillery round: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It would...
[15:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:50] <exec> 08└─I'm not seeing a lack of good content. I'm seeing the good content getting burred in mediocre content. When I look at Netflix the catalog is mostly B movies, their own content (which generally has pretty good production quality), and a handful of A list content (some of it quite old, but it's still...
[15:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:51] <exec> 08└─If you have a TV over 50 inches, you will probably start to notice the difference between 720 and 1080. Even with up-scaling, it is very noticeable on my friend's 70 inch TV. I'm not sure where 4K would start to matter (for my eyes) but I suppose somewhere over 80 inches.
[15:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:53] <exec> 08└─well, i agree that original dragonball doesn't need 1080p to watch, understand and enjoy. but for other anime, if you dont watch it in 1080p you're kindda kicking the makers twice: once for not paying them and second for not appreciating their work. i get names all wrong all the time but there's the...
[15:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:22] <exec> 08└─Dick Cheney is Jewish? News to me. The entire point of invading Iraq was to funnel money to Halliburton. Nothing more, nothing less.
[15:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 1163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:23] <exec> 08└─Nobody realizes these things early in their life. If they do, they probably are equally naive (on the other side of a horseshoe) and see conspiracies in everything - only by dumb luck actually getting some things accurately. It's only with age and experience that one starts to see the bullshit in a...
[15:19:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:16] <exec> 08└─You know, the Internet runs on electricity ... lots of electricity.
[15:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:06] <exec> 08└─The telcos have collected billions in subsidies from taxpayers and failed to provide what we were paying for. They just keep raking in massive profits for doing nothing, as long as they plow a small part of those profits back into the bribery^wcampaign finance system. I'd be ok with President Sander...
[15:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:07] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but, socialism isn't always a dirty word except to greedy assholes. And your formula therefore applies to all regulations. Government can't give anything away, so let's just get rid of it, mmmkay?
[15:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:09] <exec> 08└─Bull-fucking-shit. There have been plenty of industries with price controls that have no supply problems at all. However, that takes a regulatory board that is actually independent, absolute transparency to real numbers from the regulated corporations, and thus able to assess industry rate increase...
[15:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:11] <exec> 08└─Sounds good. But, let's remember that Bernie is a rich old white guy, and a member of the Good Old Boy's Club. He isn't going to play hard ball with other rich old white men.
[15:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:21] <exec> 08└─And then they will remember that the alternative was Hillary. There is no winning move.
[15:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Technology Theft on the Rise in Bali - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:22] <exec> 08└─I agree with you, but I'm quite cynical regarding news media in general- for this and many other obvious reasons. Here in USA we heard about both events, but more so the NZ story. It's almost like the Sri Lankans were disposable. Or maybe more that when you think of NZ, you think of very civilized p...
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[16:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:12] <exec> 08└─Had to ddg for "drop bear". Not disappointed at all. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Any efforts pending to save those deadly monsters?
[16:14:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 1370 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:30] <exec> 08└─Choice 6: E: Support for multiple init systems is Required The Windows Phan Bois have been telling us for years (is it decades now?) that much of Linux' security is just security through obscurity. And, they make a point. Happy Hackers of Hoboken have worked for months to develop an exploit in Red H...
[16:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 1303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:32] <exec> 08└─well said I do not see why there cannot be a selection of init system like you can select a boot system or a desktop environment. Anyone who is deadset against that, like this one tool of theirs is essential to the whole thing, just lost their ability to convince me they are not police or worse. Ope...
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[16:14:34] <exec> 08└─E multiple inits required No matter what anyone says, the debian community is not satisfied with systemd. And I want no aspects of linux, ever, anywhere, that are single point of failure blobs. And I want a version of debian that has no ability whatsoever to integrate with active directory or any co...
[16:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:36] <exec> 08└─There is a convincing argument for maintaining alternative init systems on a distro. If shit ever hits the fan or multiple NSA backdoors or showstopper bugs are found or some other worst case scenario? You can switch init systems. Systemd and the rest of Linux+userspace has become too complex. Did y...
[16:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:38] <exec> 08└─It’s not just mildly concerning that a group discussing a system where ordinality is critical cannot come up with proper rank-ordered list.
[16:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 1237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:40] <exec> 08└─Security through obscurity is, indeed, not a bad thing. It's not enough by itself, but it is a tool in the toolbox. Just running a server on an unusual port eliminated virtually all attacks. So why not take advantage of that? Linux is the same: The mass consumer usage of Windows and Mac markets attr...
[16:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:42] <exec> 08└─If the true needs are divergent, any effort to converge them by just exercising power is harmful. This is what evil corporations do, like RedHat or Microsoft. You want cathedral, instead of bazaar. Centralism does not fit to the concept of FOSS. Duplication of efforts is critical factor to prevent s...
[16:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeVilla [5354] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:44] <exec> 08└─C, There you go again.
[16:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 2833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:47] <exec> 08└─> I don't remember ever having a problem with a non-systemd init system issue. Likewise, but I have had no end of problems with systemd, many of them so obscure and fiddly to debug and fix that most of the time its easier to treat it like windows (hard reset and hope it fixes itself, otherwise reins...
[16:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:49] <exec> 08└─That option is C++
[16:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeVilla [5354] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:51] <exec> 08└─On idealistic grounds I would disagree. I've always liked Debian as a "universal operating system" that offered choices and that was never the "wrong" platform for anything except maybe riding the bleeding edge. And even then there was sid and later testing. I think the problem may be that the unive...
[16:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:53] <exec> 08└─Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd Choice 2: B: Systemd but we support exploring alternatives Choice 3: A: Support for multiple init systems is Important Choice 4: D: Support non-systemd systems, without blocking progress Choice 5: H: Support portability, without blocking progress Choice 6: E: Support fo...
[16:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─If you can replicate the same conditions in other machines, you can probably go into business and make a killing!
[16:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:08] <exec> 08└─There's actually a good solution to this given in the story just before this one [soylentnews.org]. Problem is will they be able to process 144,000 people [statista.com] at once?
[16:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:10] <exec> 08└─Getting compulsory updates from a company you neither trust not to spy on you or to break your computer is like losing your virgininty over and over again, you can never get used to it because every time it is a total dice roll. Sounds really unpleasant. Windows users have probably just never heard...
[16:15:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 622 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:20] <exec> 08└─I'm still concerned about prions infecting the resulting 'humulch' (I think I'll trademark that) and getting into the environment. From their FAQ: The process of natural organic reduction destroys most harmful pathogens. However, there is not enough evidence showing that the process breaks down prio...
[16:15:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:31] <exec> 08└─You'za confuzing Satanic Judaism/Freemasonry and other parasitic races/systems with something else. Did you forget about Epstein? How many prepubescents did he murder himself and how many did the Clintons/others do? P.S: are you a JIDF agent?
[16:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03woodcruft [6528] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:56] <exec> 08└─I did when I was cycling a lot ~20 years ago. If I didn't get out for a ride of >25 miles at least every couple of days, then I would start to get somewhat depressed and cranky. I'd say it almost certainly is NOT just psychological either. It's well known that you produce endorphins (aka "natural...
[16:18:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 110 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:04] <exec> 08└─You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
[16:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 1026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:39] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm not exactly sure what the problem you're expressing is. Didn't upvote, but yeah I'm in favor of upvoting anyone expressing anti-Trump sentiment at this point, for the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Any sentence beginning, "Time to throw Trump out..." likely gets an upvote. Aside from that...
[16:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:41] <exec> 08└─More generally it's karmic justice.
[16:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:43] <exec> 08└─"Things are fine in Afghanistan. Things are fine in Afghanistan. WE NEED A TROOP SURGE!!!! WE NEEEEEEED A SURGE!!!!!!! Okay... surge over... embargo lifted." "The Afghanis are learning how to self-police. The Afghanis are learning how to self-police. THEY'RE NOT READY YET!!!! THEY'RE NOT REAAAADY Y...
[16:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:27] <exec> 08└─we might have money to properly fix them instead of buying school lunches and medical care for illegals and anchor babies.
[16:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:29] <exec> 08└─politicians will give regulatory ease to public providers to the detriment of private providers
[16:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:31] <exec> 08└─You mean the electricity shortages that started when California de-regulated its power industry and private corporations decided they could make a lot more money if their product was more scarce? I'm pretty sure that's how ISPs work now.
[16:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bernie Sanders Vows to Break up Huge ISPs and Regulate Broadband Prices - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:33] <exec> 08└─It's just market economics. Most customers just want to consume funny cat videos. It's cheaper for them to design their infrastructure for downloads, especially when the vast majority of customers that need more uploads are businesses that are willing and able to pay more for better service.
[16:21:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 703 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:21:58] <exec> 08└─In the late '80s I got drunk with a bunch of Chinese Uni students - they were both humble and extremely nationalistically prideful at the same time "we are not the best today, but one day soon we will be!" They have the population numbers, they have the work ethic, everybody on the planet has access...
[16:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:44] <exec> 08└─Intel exec 1 : I have an idea for short term profits, lets obviously back door all of our products Intel exec: 2 : think of the short term mind reading potential on a global scale intel exec 3: wait, won't think make everyone distrust us and never buy any of our things again? we would lose the entir...
[16:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Disney's Decision Not To Renew SecuROM License Bricks 'Tron: Evolution' - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:43] <exec> 08└─Interestingly enough, they just released Client 2.0 for Open Beta. You're able to import your steam library and launch steam games from within the GOG client.
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[17:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:03] <exec> 08└─Maybe the fires will cut down on the overwhelming numbers of things that are poisonous, want to kill you, or both down there. They'd have to repopulate the ecosystem if that happened though, since even the grass falls into one of those categories in Oz.
[17:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:04] <exec> 08└─Isn't it "blood red sunsets, shepherds' delight"? And NZ is full of sheep, so must be full of shepherds. So everyone should be delighted.
[17:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:36] <exec> 08└─Even if "dump systemd" [...] succeeds
[17:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:37] <exec> 08└─On the contrary, I think there are still lots of volunteers to help, but project leaderships get lost in the political, while steering the boat away from professionals and their needs, to amateur users and their whims.
[17:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:39] <exec> 08└─Doesn't suck as an idea but for the moment you can sub them as a story. Most of our eds are capable of figuring out something with "POLL" in the title and a list of choices is supposed to be a poll. When they're sober and have had their coffee anyway.
[17:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:41] <exec> 08└─What about those of us permanently on Kahlua benders?
[17:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:44] <exec> 08└─Linus is a swedish-speaking Finn. In Swedish, BAD = bath. So that indicates that, like all important discussions in Finland, this should continue in the sauna. The conclusion can only be - dum dum dahhh - to migrate to Steam-OS.
[17:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:46] <exec> 08└─> systemd has done more to squander the Linux image of "fast, secure, dependable and reliable" By first shitting on the unix principle of doing one job, and doing it well (but having sensible enough interfaces that bigger systems can easily be built from it).
[17:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:48] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I'm a bit worried. I'm in the market for full-time work and mainly looking into Linux admin. If I can convince management to use a systemd-less distro, then coolness. Otherwise I'm worried. There are many systemd-less distros- any thoughts or experience? I've been running Alpine on a couple...
[17:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:50] <exec> 08└─The problem is that systemd doesn't want to be just an init system. E.g., it want's to run the error logging system and not export it. Yes, it claims to export it, but there were a lot of "won't fix" responses to comments about problems.
[17:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:52] <exec> 08└─Yeah, this is as stupid as the LibDem's 2nd Brexit referendumb. Or that tattoo you all got on the stag trip to Vegas. You made a stupid decision, live with it. There's Devuan for everyone who wants nothing to do with you any more because of it.
[17:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:28] <exec> 08└─Well still better than the soylentgreen idea https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[17:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:24] <exec> 08└─OK, it's precise. Now do they hit the intended target or some mourners at a funeral? Or do they just hit something, and then claim it was the intended target? Precise isn't accurate. To be accurate you need not only precision, but tracking. So how do you track your target, when your kill radius is o...
[17:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:26] <exec> 08└─So we can now once again literally beat our swords into plowshares!
[17:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:05] <exec> 08└─Embrace Extend Extinguish As useful as TPB is, this seems like a way to poke the bear and get swatted. Streaming should not be linked in any legally binding way to torrent trackers, that is outright stupid. I can tolerate mining ads and porn ads, but this looks pretty bad. They are in the seychelles...
[17:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Tech Jewel: Converting Graphene into Diamond Film - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:20] <exec> 08└─The thing is, you need to look at shorter term applications, or it will never be developed. If you head directly for that "application that's possible with 25 years of development", you'll never get there. Head for near term applications and the development may get you to the 25+ year goal, or to so...
[17:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:41] <exec> 08└─"made sure that their only point of presence in the Mediterranean basin (the Odessa port) is securely theirs" They did not take Odessa, they took Crimea. It is not theirs. It does not belong to them. this is just propaganda trying to re-word "they invaded because they want that port". They took Crim...
[17:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:42] <exec> 08└─'self licking ice cream cone' sounds a lot like blowing themselves, except gettting rich doing it, on the back of the taxpayer and a global heroin trade, and wiping their ass on the flag. No wonder they didn't want to argue with michael hastings. Idk its almost like american foreign policy is contro...
[17:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Russia Banned from World Sporting Events Due to Doping, to Include Olympics and World Cup - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:21:15] <exec> 08└─Neither did Richard Jewell.
[17:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:45] <exec> 08└─Chinese have strictly no first strike policy.
[17:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:46] <exec> 08└─give them the sole power to launch a first strike.
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[18:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:16] <exec> 08└─The first question is: How did such diverse information end up being on the same hard disk to begin with? Seems the relaxed handling of information goes far deeper than “just” inadequate (non-)deletion of hard disk data.
[18:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:18] <exec> 08└─It's cheaper1 to "liquidate" old drives (for incoming money) than to have them sand blasted (expense). 1for some definitions of "cheaper", assuming drives could never have anything sensitive
[18:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:20] <exec> 08└─27 terabytes sound like it was probably a box or palette of hard disks ranging in size from 120GB to 2TB depending on how old they were when decomissioned. The key detail here is no one securely wiped the hard disks when they were decommissioned and they were then sold or claimed 'recycled' by an or...
[18:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:22] <exec> 08└─Was it the same drive? 27 TB is an awfully big hard drive. Especially for an old PC to have. A man who won an Internet auction for used hard disks
[18:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:33] <exec> 08└─Buzzard, meet Mojibake Tengu. [soylentnews.org] Mojibake, Buzzard. Looks like you two will have a lot to discuss.
[18:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:35] <exec> 08└─"A lot worse, with smoke and haze covering large parts of the eastern seaboard." ^ is not a sentance. Learn to grammer.
[18:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:15] <exec> 08└─My understanding is that there are some sysadmins out there that genuinely prefer systemd. I'm not sure who these people are or what they're smoking, but they appear to think it's worthwhile. So I'd be fine with option "Support for multiple init systems is Required" and let systemd compete with othe...
[18:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:16] <exec> 08└─You want cathedral, instead of bazaar. Centralism does not fit to the concept of FOSS. Actually, the BSDs are cathedral like, and are a good answer if what you want is *BSD! OTOH closed sores is the answer if you want a pile of shite.
[18:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:18] <exec> 08└─My understanding is that there are some sysadmins out there that genuinely prefer systemd. They also voted for Trump, so its better to lock them in a dark room with a troll or two.
[18:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:20] <exec> 08└─The flaw I see is a lack of choice, including the survey: how about giving us a choice of init system?
[18:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:22] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, as long as you can keep making at least half as many typos as cmn32480, we'll keep you around.
[18:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:25] <exec> 08└─It also doesn't hurt their cause that the spooky three letter power rangers also want this
[18:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:27] <exec> 08└─And I want a version of debian that has no ability whatsoever to integrate with active directory
[18:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:29] <exec> 08└─They're MCSEs that admin Linux systems for whatever reason. Mostly it's a mix of getting forced to by the PHB and sheer sadistic malice.
[18:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:31] <exec> 08└─Authoritarians that think their fucked up way of doing things should be the only permissible way and even simple dissent should be grounds for exile? Sounds a lot more like folks who wear the blue panties to me.
[18:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:33] <exec> 08└─Speed is substitute fo accurancy
[18:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:35] <exec> 08└─In terms of market penetration, Linux would be much more effective if efforts would concentrate on fewer distributions.
[18:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:37] <exec> 08└─Given their cultish devotion to pushing systemd and anyone who wants to see it gone is by definition a heretic, they'd probably just throw me off the nearest rooftop . There's a lot of that going around among the more closed-minded. Rigging the poll so that abandoning sysyemd isn't even an option t...
[18:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:40] <exec> 08└─Did you know systemd now does DNS caching and name lookups?
[18:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:42] <exec> 08└─A choice can be a set of radio buttons with only one option. Or make that single item a checkbox if that helps you to perceive it as a choice. (radio buttons...) Which init system would you like to install: (*) systemd (checkbox...) Would you like to have systemd installed as your choice of init sys...
[18:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:44] <exec> 08└─Welcome to our new paradigm, where even Linux is not Linux.
[18:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:17] <exec> 08└─"He died a delicious death."
[18:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Storing Data in Everyday Objects - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:32] <exec> 08└─Data is stored in everyday objects. Pee is stored in the balls.
[18:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Orders All Foreign Software Removed From Use - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:38] <exec> 08└─Well hopefully we'll never find out. It does seem China mostly has a 2nd strike capability and would rather build high speed rail then lots of nukes. Right now the scariest nation is Pakistan, tactical nukes deployed and quite a bit of autonomy for the local commanders. Only good thing, if you can c...
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[19:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:39] <exec> 08└─That data should have been spread far and wide. Buy more used HDDs.
[19:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:40] <exec> 08└─> Please find the floppy disk stapled to this letter. And what's wrong with that? So long as you only staple the corner, which is what most people do most of the time, the disk itself will be fine. Heck, even the edges are probably okay (for a while) so long as the disk isn't full. Which probably le...
[19:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:42] <exec> 08└─Yep. Which is why somebody should be sued into bankruptcy for failing to wipe the disks properly first - make sure the economic incentives are properly aligned. It's not like it's terribly difficult or expensive to do the job properly - recording a single pass of zeros is enough to render the data i...
[19:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 1299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:45] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, some higher ups are going to see this story and make an extra push to destroy used drives and equipment rather than letting it be re-used. Not that destroying "modern" stuff (anything with blue LEDs) is a major loss, but unfortunately that winds up including everything "vintage", for...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:47] <exec> 08└─Is probably enough to 'securely' wipe actual high security drives as well. The odds of coherent data being visible after at least one noise pass that has time to sit before being zeroed is next to nill.
[19:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Acabatag [2885] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─I once bought an old laptop at a University Surplus auction. There were a lot of laptops sold at auction that day, and the notice at the auction stated they all had their hard drives removed. This was in the era of the Pentium 4 laptop, but the one that I bid on was much older, I think it sported a...
[19:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Acabatag [2885] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:51] <exec> 08└─I'll add that I also have a rather nice top-end for it's time laptop that came with Windows XP and a locked account. The flea market seller told me that it would need a new hard drive. So I ran lophtcrack on it, deleted all the lawyer's legal documents they had left on it, and it's a very nice lapto...
[19:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:03] <exec> 08└─Adding the preceding sentence, it becomes: "Happens every year around this time, but this year is worse. A lot worse, with smoke and haze covering large parts of the eastern seaboard." In this context, "A lot worse, with the smoke..." turns out to be one of those uncommon sentences where the subject...
[19:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:05] <exec> 08└─Conversational language does not apply to the written word in this context.
[19:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:07] <exec> 08└─Oh, what happened last solar minimum: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] This solar minimum is even deeper than the last. The sun has been blank for a month: http://www.sidc.be [www.sidc.be]
[19:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:09] <exec> 08└─These fires are not an "every year" thing, and have become more and more severe after repeated droughts. The current government has been challenged on their repeated refusal to acknowledge that climate change is a significant factor in the changing weather patterns.
[19:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:11] <exec> 08└─How about the minimum before that, in 1998: It's summer in Australia, and that means bushfire season. This almost annual event has been particularly destructive this year, the latest casualty being the west coast capital of Perth.
[19:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:13] <exec> 08└─These fires are not an "every year" thing
[19:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:15] <exec> 08└─My grammer has fine grammar, thank you.
[19:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:18] <exec> 08└─Its not my problem that your bad at speling.
[19:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:20] <exec> 08└─Its not my problem that your bad at speling. (or taht I'm bad at replying to the rite post)
[19:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:22] <exec> 08└─We're too busy beatifying St. Greta the Sullen.
[19:15:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 760 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:35] <exec> 08└─The first vote was gamed. I expect this one to be more of the same. Even if "dump systemd" or "allow multiple inits" succeeds, the entrenched proSystemD-ers will just drown it all in red(hat) tape, "minutes meetings", and rules-lawyering, and substandrd package/patch compliance until they get their...
[19:15:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:40] <exec> 08└─"There is a lot of duplication of efforts" That's not a bad thing. "In terms of market penetration, Linux would be much more effective if efforts would concentrate on fewer distributions." I doubt that very much, in fact I'll go so far as to say the opposite is far more likely to be true. Different...
[19:15:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 228 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:57] <exec> 08└─Linus is a swedish-speaking Finn. In Swedish, BAD = bath. So that indicates that, like all important discussions in Finland, this should continue in the sauna. The conclusion can only be - dum dum dahhh - to migrate to Steam-OS.
[19:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:17] <exec> 08└─>> There is a lot of duplication of efforts That is exactly why Poettering is doing the community a huge favor by incorporating new functionality into systemd... he accepts your suggestion to add hosting, bug tracking, packaging systems, packaging itself and there is no end in sight.
[19:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:18] <exec> 08└─Sorry, Microsoft has patented that trick already with Window 10 upgrade.
[19:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:21] <exec> 08└─Support for multiple init systems is Required
[19:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:23] <exec> 08└─> A choice can be a set of radio buttons with only one option. Like everything but systemd is grayed out.
[19:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:25] <exec> 08└─Choice 9: WWMD: What Would Microsoft Do
[19:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:27] <exec> 08└─You can see evidence of the Cylon conspiracy every time SystemD can't decide if it should run the next obviously correct command to bring the system up of not. The solution is to break the net of inter-dependency to the greatest degree possible.
[19:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:29] <exec> 08└─Actually, they have already biased the results in favor of systemd. It will be shocking if anything other than "Choice 1:F" wins. Look at the options. Choice 1:F is what all systemd supporters will choose. All of them. The other choices are split out into several variations. People against systemd w...
[19:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:46] <exec> 08└─A month or two ago I was goofing off on the computer before hopping on the treadmill when Windows informed me that it was going to update itself in 30 minutes whether I wanted it to or not. I had been running 1803 at the time. "Bull-effing-shit" I said out loud as I took steps to beat Windows Update...
[19:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:47] <exec> 08└─If a vulnerability causes your box to join a botnet that attempts to infect my box or run up my server's Internet bandwidth bill, whose problem is that?
[19:16:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:49] <exec> 08└─I sit here, not caring, while your teeth are baring With Linux I care not, cos Windows is snot ... ......and never again will be on my computers. You will take Linux from my cold dead hands!
[19:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:52] <exec> 08└─You can do that with Linux!
[19:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:12] <exec> 08└─Really it's a zombie process shell, that was forked from the original shell which has had its privileges elevated and moved to a different kernel namespace.
[19:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:14] <exec> 08└─You will become worm food.
[19:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:53] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay#Projects [wikipedia.org] They have done plenty of things on the side. And TPB has changed management at least once. There are other sites [torrentfreak.com] that can accomplish the same purpose, and will do so if TPB kicks the bucket. Running a magnet lin...
[19:18:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:55] <exec> 08└─Depends on how they implement it. I can conceive of a browser-based application which is part torrent client (not illegal) and part video player (not illegal). The built-in torrent client receives the same magnet hash that regular users already see, but it aggressively prefers to download early sequ...
[19:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:32] <exec> 08└─Wrong my friend. China has already engaged in military operations in Afganistan. China blames Afganistan for its terrorism problem, to solve which it began rounding up its Muslim population.
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[20:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:56] <exec> 08└─Burglars want exemption from laws against burglary.
[20:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:15] <exec> 08└─I was making regular backup copies of the floppy disk, but right now our photocopier is broken.
[20:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 2624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:16] <exec> 08└─Do you have any evidence that a second pass, much less the sitting around, actually improves the situation? I can't imagine how sitting would make any difference whatsoever. With modern drives I haven't even seen any evidence that that random data instead of zeros actually improves the situation - t...
[20:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:18] <exec> 08└─On the flip side, when you purchase a used drive, you might not like what you find on it. You could see things that might melt your tiny little brain. One should generally wipe drives before using them. If you have to retrieve drivers or application programs, do NOT look at personal documents, then...
[20:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:21] <exec> 08└─I must say, I've never before seen someone manage to break their New Years Resolution before New Years even arrives. That's got to be some kind of record.
[20:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:23] <exec> 08└─I bought an SGI Octane that belonged to the department of defense. They removed the eeprom with the MAC address and even the RAM! As if it would still hold confidential information...
[20:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:25] <exec> 08└─I've once read somewhere on the internet of an incident where support asked for a copy of the installation disk of a program to find out why it didn't work. The customer sent a photocopy. And yet, support could help them: They found out from the label that it was the wrong version.
[20:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:47] <exec> 08└─Koala chlamydia, on the other hand, is completely real. They're doing god's work over at The John Oliver Koala Chlamydia Ward! [theguardian.com]
[20:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:48] <exec> 08└─"Red sky at night, shepherds delight" I believe is the term, but no, we don't have many sheep left at all. The moas ate them. [wikipedia.org] The light is slightly red during even the middle of the day at the moment, which is slightly weird.
[20:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:50] <exec> 08└─Can you explain how the sun causes fire in New South Wales?
[20:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:53] <exec> 08└─The number of characters typed at the console (or even their repetitiveness) is not a measure of how complex that thing is. No matter how "easy" the the command line, the fact that you have to remember to do this is beyond fucked up. Systemd is a horriffic cancer, the long term goal is the destructi...
[20:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:54] <exec> 08└─I disagree. Systemd is good enough in practice, and I can see Systemd/Linux being a nice BSD-like integrated system if it ever fully matures. The alternatives are either old shit that still works but is lacking, or new shit that works but isn't popular enough to have universal support.
[20:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:56] <exec> 08└─Did your people really think that redhat would have gone all the way pushing for a new incompatible init system/system middleman, if its aim was ultimately to return to transparent and easy to admin linux boxii? Systemd is working as expected.
[20:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:58] <exec> 08└─Your memes [kym-cdn.com].
[20:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:00] <exec> 08└─Too bad that is the wrong service. NetworkManager is a RedHat project under GNOME, that interfaces with systemd-networkd among others. Systemd and FreeDesktop haven't merged completely yet. Now, I don't want you to claim that I got you on a technicality, so I also want to point out that you would ha...
[20:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:03] <exec> 08└─But this happened with systemd. Distros are becoming mere branding thanks to systemd propension to submit other services. Linux did not advance much as a result did it?
[20:16:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:05] <exec> 08└─You want option zero - find another career. Tech is no longer about either innovation or empowering users, hasn't been since unicorn money infested it.
[20:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:07] <exec> 08└─Take iMessage for example. It works over wifi unlike normal SMS messages. On wifi I can text any other iPhone user because its the only messaging app. Now take Android. It has that capability but via third party apps, of which there are dozens. Which one can I install that will work with EVERY Andro...
[20:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:09] <exec> 08└─They're people that aren't actually capable of system administration. SystemD, like the Windows systems they are used to, absolves their incompetence. When it's down, it's not the admin's fault, it's like an act of nature, no blame. They are people who are heavily invested in the paradigm that relie...
[20:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:11] <exec> 08└─In the meantime, project trident, aiming to improve freebsd, transitioned to systemd-free void linux, they also stated their reasons. https://project-trident.org [project-trident.org] So, just use freebsd is not a catch-all solution, even without considering licensing philosophies...
[20:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:13] <exec> 08└─Oh there are plenty like that on both sides of THAT aisle, don't kid yourself. Quite a few of them switch sides regularly, going from neo-lib to neo-con and back again seemingly at will.
[20:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:15] <exec> 08└─You are the user, there is written "support". So your objection as a dev might be I don't want to support many init systems. Debian, before systemd and COCs, was adding support for different KERNELS. Why? because it is called the universal operating system. So multiple init support, especially in te...
[20:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:18] <exec> 08└─Well that has little or nothing to do with GNU/Linux, Android is Google's crap. And Android is an excellent example of what should never be done. On just about every level. So I'm not even sure if you replied to the right message. It's a bit mystifying.
[20:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:20] <exec> 08└─The number of characters typed at the console (or even their repetitiveness) is not a measure of how complex that thing is. No matter how "easy" the the command line, the fact that you have to remember to do this is beyond fucked up. Systemd is a horriffic cancer, the long term goal is the destructi...
[20:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:22] <exec> 08└─all the different things that it does should be in different modules, that you can pick and choose
[20:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:24] <exec> 08└─systemd-resolved is dependent on NetworkManager on my systems. Disabling/masking it prevents systemd-resolved from running. If that's not the case on other distros, I'm sure that generalizing it would work too: systemctl disable systemd-resolved systemctl mask systemd-resolved Or any other unwanted...
[20:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:26] <exec> 08└─And a mechanism to submit poll ideas.
[20:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:48] <exec> 08└─Forcing Windows upgrade on users in Venezuela seems unlawful by U.S. law
[20:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:12] <exec> 08└─Live in a coffin, eat bugs, dropped into the mulcher when you die. "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks, and become one with all the people."
[20:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:55] <exec> 08└─720p is a good compromise between quality and file size. New codecs have made it very small, HDD/NAND storage capacity is way up, and average download speed are up. And we still have AV1, H.266, and AV2 coming. "4K" and above are useful... for 360-degree VR video.
[20:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:57] <exec> 08└─Torrent streaming has been a thing for years, e.g. uTorrent + VLC. The streaming we're talking about requires centralized hosting of video content, but removes legal liability from (most, if not all) end users since they are not connecting and uploading to a swarm.
[20:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:20:36] <exec> 08└─But a war with Saudi Arabia would be popular, and their oil is not really needed in the US. Obeisance to the Saudis goes beyond what the known facts suggest.
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[21:14:26] <exec> 08└─The recommended term is, 'Asset Relocation Specialists'. The term 'burglar' was deemed prejudicial by the members of the profession, and negatively impacted growth in the industry, and societal acceptance.
[21:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:28] <exec> 08└─My tv is not connected to the net, advertisers still buy ads. My radio isn't connected to the net, advertisers still buy ads. The flyers that I get every week aren't tracking me either since we banned coupons that were being used to track consumer behaviour. Advertisers still buy ads. The ad indust...
[21:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:30] <exec> 08└─I just love how it is that a website will detect my ad-blocker, and then offer a page of instructions on how to disable it! Do they imagine that an ad-blocker accidentally got installed on my browser? Do they not realize that I probably know how to disable it, since I was the user that enabled it, a...
[21:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:53] <exec> 08└─This guy was a jerk for recovering this data, but sadly there are genuine crooks out who would be happy mis-use such data.
[21:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:55] <exec> 08└─I think the "standard" for secure erasure is: 1) a zeros pass 2) a ones pass 3-6) random data passes 7) a zeros pass The "need" for this 7 pass erasure is why "Cryptographic Erasure" drives actually exist. Basically, a CE drive is one that is encrypted, but the key is "under the door mat" so to spea...
[21:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 1474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:23] <exec> 08└─Nah. The poisonous things will mostly grow back, quickly or slowly. It burned badly there in 1982/1983, too. They suppressed the natural fires so long that when it finally was able to burn, it burned unnaturally hot and thoroughly and took everything leaving a barren, charcoal landscape. It looked a...
[21:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:25] <exec> 08└─Yes. Can you think of anything? Your question suggest you think it is a ridiculous prospect for some reason.
[21:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's what it looks like when wildfires burn. It's what the summer looked like nearly every year growing up in the American West. It's not fun. But almost every place has something that makes it less enjoyable. The South has hurricanes. The MidWest has tornadoes. And so on.
[21:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:29] <exec> 08└─I do think it is ridiculous, and will continue to think that, unless you can supply a compelling argument to the contrary.
[21:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:31] <exec> 08└─As an asthmatic the bit that hurt my brain this week, in Sydney, was going outside with the smokers on my coffee break and wondering if they were getting cleaner air than I was ..
[21:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 1063 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:33] <exec> 08└─Video of Sydney with the smoke yesterday: https://mobile.abc.net.au [abc.net.au] I heard it was 20x the hazardous levels in terms of air quality. Worse than any other city in the world. I was talking to the my work o...
[21:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:36] <exec> 08└─It is well known that solar cycle correlates with precipitation on Earth. Here is a paper from the 1970s: https://www.nature.com [nature.com] Here is NASA talking about it: https://www.giss.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] The usual explanation is a less active sun mean...
[21:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:57] <exec> 08└─The BSDs are a bazaar of cathedrals; each one may be a cohesive whole, but there are many to choose from. And, I would put forth that the cross-pollination between the BSDs are a great source of their strengths.
[21:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:59] <exec> 08└─There's also some impenetrable and apparently pointless DNS server on 127.0.0.53, seemingly solely existing because DNS resolution on linux used to work and make sense and be predictable, so that must be changed so as to boost billable admin hours per server. Also there were too many eyes on securit...
[21:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:01] <exec> 08└─All those guys left a LONG time ago for FreeBSD and similar. I don't think there's anyone left as a DD who isn't a fan of systemd. Its like trying to find a Trump voter on the poop covered streets of SanFrancisco. Everyone who doesn't like poop, left a long time ago. You aren't going to see voter ba...
[21:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:03] <exec> 08└─Support for multiple init systems is Required
[21:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:05] <exec> 08└─Sounds a lot more like folks who wear the blue panties to me.
[21:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:07] <exec> 08└─That was my thought too, but isn't their voting procedure some kind of ranked choice thing? In which case it may end up closer than one might think, depending on how they do it. If I was in a position to do so, I'd be tempted to try to galvanize people to all vote "Further Discussion" in protest unt...
[21:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:09] <exec> 08└─... for now. Most of systemd started as optional, and then new parts required them, and then Gnome required those parts ... So they might be "optional" now, but they'll be needed by some core part son enough.
[21:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:11] <exec> 08└─It perfectly describes your problem of packaging. There are competing formats that all do the same thing and now that systemd is involved it makes things much worse.
[21:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:14] <exec> 08└─Man, why you gotta mess up a perfectly good bit of shit talking by responding all reasonable? Since you did though, have to disagree. It may have started out with that potential but the path Poettering is taking it down is going to leave it a bigger hot mess than the Windows registry. Hell, there's...
[21:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:00] <exec> 08└─Nice try but your interpretation fails for the most widespread religion, satanism.
[21:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:01] <exec> 08└─If you want a concrete solution for getting rid of a body, the mafia has a couple. (Hint 1. concrete 2. solution)
[21:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:04] <exec> 08└─> which has had its privileges elevated or ended in lakeoffire, a symbolic link to /dev/null
[21:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:06] <exec> 08└─Putting the soylent green in soylentnews.
[21:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:32] <exec> 08└─Dunno. I come here very regularly to get my hackles up and opinions taken three times around the dance floor. I prop up my ideas and do reading sprints.
[21:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Time Benjamin Franklin Tried (and Failed) to Electrocute a Turkey - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:49] <exec> 08└─Please, let's keep tired memes out of headlines. I just threw up, and not a little. : /
[21:19:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:11] <exec> 08└─Both incidents where this munition was alleged to be used hit vehicles. That sounds to me like they targeted and tracked the center of the vehicle rather than a particular person.
[21:21:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:21:37] <exec> 08└─... Iraqis ... had ... a reasonably functioning country ... Afghans OTOH have a failed state and a centuries-long history of viciously fighting anything that turns up
[21:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Banned from World Sporting Events Due to Doping, to Include Olympics and World Cup - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:11] <exec> 08└─Gee. They just decided he was honest, huh? No corroborating evidence or anything like that, huh?
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[22:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:14] <exec> 08└─Surprised they don't try to play on users' association that cookies are tasty and loaded with sugar. Mmmmm. Good cookies!
[22:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:15] <exec> 08└─I guess all the measures I take are not really legal...
[22:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:18] <exec> 08└─Do they not realize that I probably know how to disable it, since I was the user that enabled it, after installing it?
[22:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:20] <exec> 08└─I probably do the same as everyone else here. Site tells me how to disable an ad blocker, it's easier to just leave them.
[22:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:22] <exec> 08└─You just reminded me of the shitfest of cleaning cookies out of windows in the old days. Was it index.dat holding the cookies or something else?
[22:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:48] <exec> 08└─The idea is that maybe 2020 could finally be the first year that I don't break it. I'm trying so hard.
[22:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:49] <exec> 08└─I had been making backups, as you said, but then I read: DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY! So I quit making backups believing that to be the right thing to do.
[22:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:22] <exec> 08└─The smart path would be to build large fire breaks near(ish) the populated bits and not fuck with any fires outside them, what with how Oz populations are distributed. Guess that's asking too much of politicians and bureaucrats though.
[22:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:24] <exec> 08└─Breathe through water soaked cloth? Gas mask? Does anything help?
[22:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:26] <exec> 08└─It's not trying to be a sentence. At all. The construct's Chomsky-approved - what are your creds?
[22:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:28] <exec> 08└─Aren't the cosmic rats killed by high-energy mewons?
[22:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:30] <exec> 08└─I have looked through your links, and apart from the first one, which I cannot read without a subscription, the answer is "not really". I also did a couple of web searches on the subject myself, and did find several sites that told me about how the coming grand solar minimum was going to cause eart...
[22:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:32] <exec> 08└─So you have no problem with what it says in the links, or a problem with the sources, but do not understand how forest fires are connected to the solar cycle (which they obviously are). Westworld: "It does look like anything at all to me". You brainwashed bro.
[22:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:34] <exec> 08└─This is how artificial selection works I guess. If you think 90% of humans need to die to save the planet but don't care much which ones, may as well cast out your brainwashing net and make it the willfully ignorant.
[22:16:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Unixnut [5779] 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 2833 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:02] <exec> 08└─> I don't remember ever having a problem with a non-systemd init system issue. Likewise, but I have had no end of problems with systemd, many of them so obscure and fiddly to debug and fix that most of the time its easier to treat it like windows (hard reset and hope it fixes itself, otherwise reins...
[22:16:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 259 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:11] <exec> 08└─> systemd has done more to squander the Linux image of "fast, secure, dependable and reliable" By first shitting on the unix principle of doing one job, and doing it well (but having sensible enough interfaces that bigger systems can easily be built from it).
[22:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:03] <exec> 08└─In general, assuming $MY_SIDE is always true and righteous and everything bad is the responsibility of $THEIR_SIDE is the path to evil actions. Both you and GP are wrong: Authoritarianism has both right-wing and left-wing versions, and there is no shortage of willing concentration camp guards in eit...
[22:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:05] <exec> 08└─Systemd is good enough in practice
[22:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:07] <exec> 08└─You make good points, but I think a big problem is when a company makes "business decisions" (technical decisions made by non-technical idiots), such as going all MS, or all RedHat, the employees either adapt and learn, or look for another job. And the ones who adapt and learn are sometimes poison k...
[22:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:09] <exec> 08└─Microsoft used the opposite trick; the Continue button was never disabled, even when not clicked.
[22:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:11] <exec> 08└─No, you're just being rude at that point. Supporting multiple init systems is what you want, totally blocking systemd is just as bad as forcing it on everyone. As long as you can choose a different init and have everything work I see no problem. Hmm, maybe you were half right cause "support" could m...
[22:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:13] <exec> 08└─Do isotopes count? [distrowatch.com]
[22:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:15] <exec> 08└─It's amazing how confusing language can be. Let me try this: to me, the wording "support for multiple init systems" means "one installed OS can have multiple init systems installed at once." Does that make more sense? And maybe that could exist, and a boot menu would allow choosing which init system...
[22:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:18] <exec> 08└─Whenever you misunderstand someone, it's always the best thing for all of society to insult the person, rather than realize that language is not exact, and sometimes some readers may misinterpret what they've read. /s
[22:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:20] <exec> 08└─by unplugging my mouse with the box not running,
[22:18:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:10] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure but alkaline hydrolysis [wikipedia.org], otherwise known as 'liquid cremation' may be a sufficiently rigorous process to denature human prion proteins. It is used to dispose of animal carcases that are infected with transmissible spongiform encephalopathies. According to Wikipedia: This...
[22:19:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Storing Data in Everyday Objects - 698 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:27] <exec> 08└─i have seen enough modern to see where this is going - car - wat - start - no wai - why - unauthorized part detected - impossible, last part were replaced over two months ago, car is rated very reliable for a reason, you silly dashboard pc - battery cap B2 in the bonnet is unauthorized - the plastic...
[22:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Storing Data in Everyday Objects - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:32] <exec> 08└─Where have I seen this before [youtube.com] ... ?
[22:21:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:21:42] <exec> 08└─Have a massive ethnic majority who then appeal to you
[22:21:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:21:43] <exec> 08└─The saying "God preserve me from the fangs of the cobra, the jaws of the tiger, and the wrath of the Afghans" isn't just empty words, it means you don't start a war in that place, no matter who you think you are.
[22:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Documents Show U.S. Officials Misled Public on Afghanistan War - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:21:46] <exec> 08└─The US did get bin Laden
[22:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Don't Look Behind the Curtain--Peak Load Tesla Superchargers Are Diesel - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:17] <exec> 08└─So Tesla is actually charging batteries, that are used to charge batteries, which are finally used to charge your car? I am not up on the latest battery technology, but that sounds atrociously inefficient, and that is not even considering in all the pollution it took to manufacture all those extrane...
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[23:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:04] <exec> 08└─Advertisers pay more for ad space with increased visibility (via interruption) or more precise targeting (via behavior tracking) than for ad space with neither. My tv is not connected to the net, advertisers still buy ads.
[23:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:06] <exec> 08└─Not to mention sites that use Admiral Engage, an anti-adblock tool known for confusing a tracking protection feature built into the Firefox browser with an ad blocker. When I visit Daring Fireball [daringfireball.net] and Read the Docs [readthedocs.io] with Firefox tracking protection turned all the...
[23:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:14] <exec> 08└─hundreds of drop bears
[23:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:15] <exec> 08└─Isn't it "blood red sunsets, shepherds' delight"?
[23:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:17] <exec> 08└─Conversational language does not apply to the written word in this context.
[23:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:19] <exec> 08└─More papers: https://www.sciencedirect.com [sciencedirect.com] https://www.sciencedirect.com [sciencedirect.com]
[23:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:22] <exec> 08└─Your colleague cannot have a throat infection caused by the smog. Exacerbated, perhaps, but the causative agent is a bacteria or virus.
[23:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:24] <exec> 08└─How does more precipitation mean more fires in Australia? Sure, you get more lightning which can start more fires, but you also get more water which would lessen the severity of such fires. The primary limitation on wildfires isn't the ease with which they can be started.
[23:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:26] <exec> 08└─I cycled to work with a P2/N95 dust/aerosol filter mask. I don't wear the mask just walking around, but when cycling hard for 30 minutes the mask made a HUGE difference. I see heaps of people with 'k-pop' masks, surgical masks, bandanas, handkerchiefs, etc. But those don't do much for the particulat...
[23:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:28] <exec> 08└─Experts are all linking it to climate change. Commenters here are not experts, just saying before you jump in and refute it. This scale of fire had never been seen before in Australia.
[23:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:30] <exec> 08└─No. I read the links, and took note of bits like this: The effect of these changes on our temperature record has been noted by some researchers, and, like the change in solar irradiance, it too appears to be small.
[23:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:33] <exec> 08└─How does more precipitation mean more fires in Australia?
[23:18:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:12] <exec> 08└─As for it maturing, I don't expect it to so long as Lennart is in charge of it: His projects have consistently been not-terrible ideas to start with, but lousy questionable code and design that others have had to come along and make not suck anymore (see: Pulseaudio).
[23:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I know. Clearly, I was holding it wrong too.
[23:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:16] <exec> 08└─It means exactly what you're asking for. I'm not sure how you could be confused so badly. Lack of sleep?
[23:18:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:18] <exec> 08└─Now is a good time to learn FreeBSD. And Gentoo. And Arch. And Void. Coincidentally I've been using all of these extensively aside from FreeBSD for a long time now, starting with Gentoo back in 2004 and (finally!) returning to it recently now I've got some serious CPU horses under the hood. This was...
[23:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:21] <exec> 08└─s/Arch/Artix/ of course. Sorry, first post after a long day of work. Slackware too while I think of it.
[23:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:23] <exec> 08└─Mxlinux in fact has sysvinit and systemd as boot options.
[23:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:44] <exec> 08└─Is that a function Poettering added to systemd recently?
[23:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World's First Human Composting Site to Open - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:15] <exec> 08└─It's so on-topic it kills.
[23:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Time Benjamin Franklin Tried (and Failed) to Electrocute a Turkey - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:57] <exec> 08└─You want us to zap bad puns that lost their energy?
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