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[00:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:21] <exec> 08└─Here is the problem: Coraline Ada Ehmke She has done more than anybody else to cause destructive internal strife in Open Source software projects. Her being on the OSI board is simply appalling. OSI needs to be defunded and ignored if she can not be removed. It's so bad that you have to wonder if Co...
[00:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:22] <exec> 08└─go team venture!
[00:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:24] <exec> 08└─Would it kill you to mention why he was banned in the summary? Jesus.
[00:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:26] <exec> 08└─After reading the linked article, still have no idea what was written in the first place. All I know is that after a 20 year absence, ESR decided to get into a bun-fight with the current people running the show. 1. After 20 years absent, it's not your place to run any more. 2. Irrelevant org fight...
[00:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:29] <exec> 08└─Nah, it's pretty much the same infiltrate - cop-opt - destroy process these postmodern psychopaths used everywhere else.
[00:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:31] <exec> 08└─Apparently ESR hasn't been forthcoming even in the linked article. Probably about guns (he's still a gun-but, right)?
[00:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:33] <exec> 08└─What do you expect from a webmonkey? Something useful?
[00:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:35] <exec> 08└─Guns, scare of Mooslims since 9-11, pedophilia, Patreon fraud, and just being an asshole. Used to be, families would keep old farts like this out of the public sphere, for their own protection. Like Trump, or Guliani, or Bannon, or Tweety (Chris Matthews).
[00:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:47] <exec> 08└─Well, they were just putting the blast in blast-off.
[00:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:48] <exec> 08└─5 Million? That much could buy about 1/16th of an F-35A.
[00:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:50] <exec> 08└─The F-35 pilot's helmet costs $400,000. The Vision Systems International helmet display is a key piece of the F-35's human-machine interface. Instead of the head-up display mounted atop the dashboard of earlier fighters, the HMDS puts flight and combat information on the helmet visor, allowing the p...
[00:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:19] <exec> 08└─What is the legal distinction between making something public and giving it to foreign powers? In my mind they are in no way the same. But I can't think of a specific precedent or legal doctrine that makes them distinct. The first amendment doesn't cover restricted speech, but outing a crime perpetr...
[00:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:21] <exec> 08└─And now we know why bradley13 is an expat. No extradition treaty, right?
[00:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:03] <exec> 08└─Wow, very romantic. I've never been married (technically) but I've had girlfriends who doted on me. I didn't know how much I would miss them. You're quite blessed.
[00:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:05] <exec> 08└─Wow, bizarre. I'm too much of an optimist- what are they afraid could happen? Could they put the filter boxes in local offices and access them remotely? Maybe you could suggest this and get a bonus for saving the $ wasted on the leased lines. Otherwise connect locations through VPN? I'm sure I'm mis...
[00:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:43] <exec> 08└─Even so, you can live quite well without a car. There are foldable bikes that pop into a bag. Ride to the subway/bus/whatever, sit down, on the other side ride to work and throw the thing under your desk. Mostly, though, in NYC you can get where you need to go faster and cheaper on a bike, without p...
[00:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Argonne's Pioneering User Facility to Add Magic Number Factory - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:57] <exec> 08└─The process that takes nothing but neutrons, and which produces matching pairs of protons and electrons stably bound to the remaining neutrons, really shouldn't be called "neutron capture", given that it's neutron decay.
[00:28:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 651 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:21] <exec> 08└─What's troubling here is that the lawsuit happened 43 years (initiated on 2014) after the alleged copyright violation was publicly played. In this timeline [songfacts.com], we have two other examples where Led Zepplin was sued (successfully) for copyright violation for a similar distance in the past...
[00:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:16] <exec> 08└─Respect for Hank and definitely Dolly - I think Jolene is an amazing song, even though it doesn't fit into the prog/metal/punk nexus I orbit around.
[00:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:18] <exec> 08└─Umm no they don't there's a descending chord bit that's similar, nothing else is. Unless they've copyrighted descending chords, which is impossible as there's prior art for _centuries_ from all sorts of music genres from all sorts of cultures over the world.
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[01:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:40] <exec> 08└─This kind of license will be enough for both sapient humans and sapient machines: FREE WILL LICENSE You can do whatever is your will with this software.
[01:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:41] <exec> 08└─No funny trinket clauses attached.
[01:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:43] <exec> 08└─A bit of research .... From the linked article (such as it is): “I – OSI’s co-founder and its president for its first six years – was kicked off their lists for being too rhetorically forceful in opposing certain recent attempts to subvert OSD clauses 5 and 6. This despite the fact that I h...
[01:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:45] <exec> 08└─FYI, your license proposal is redundant with the existing WTFPL: http://www.wtfpl.net [wtfpl.net]
[01:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:47] <exec> 08└─The trinkets are worthless and useless
[01:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah, um, no. His beefs were with those particular points but not even slightly the way you're framing them. But if you told the truth, I'm assuming you know the truth here in the first place, it would mean you had to say he was right in his free speech and meritocracy views, which are directly oppo...
[01:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:52] <exec> 08└─Who is this person? I've never heard of her. But admittedly I haven't kept up with open-source politics in quite a while; it was a lot more interesting and exciting back in the late 90s and early 00s, but then it seemed to lose its steam, plus Gnome and its culture of minimalism and non-customizabil...
[01:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:19] <exec> 08└─Try putting blinkers on and obnoxious signs everywhere about being a bit more fuckin' polite, you assholes.
[01:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:57] <exec> 08└─You have described a college dormitory, was fun at the time, hardly’brutal’, but not ideal either.
[01:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:59] <exec> 08└─"Socialism" is as poisonous a term as "nazism," and we cannot forget that. It's a modernist, totalitarian ideology that is responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people. That aside, we seem to agree on the mindset, no matter what you call it. It doesn't work. Fully tried, it requires forc...
[01:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:01] <exec> 08└─I don't need much square footage, but I hate the proportions of most modern buildings. I have broad shoulders, and have to angle my body through standard doorways. I am tall, and have to duck my head through most openings. It is like living in a civilization built by hobbits. I do, though, have a dr...
[01:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:03] <exec> 08└─And yet, to avoid this capitalist menace, all you have to do is ignore it.
[01:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:05] <exec> 08└─So, rather than set square footage targets, how about carbon emissions targets per person. Oh, wait, there's that variable again: number of people. While we're not on a global exponential growth curve anymore, the linear growth of global population continues around 75 million people per year, set fo...
[01:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:07] <exec> 08└─What if the top 3 men didn't have a larger piece of the pie than the bottom 50 %?
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[02:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:19] <exec> 08└─Unclear are the benefits that resulted from their new spare time — such as providing support to an ailing family member.
[02:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:20] <exec> 08└─Previous reports on this particular experiment (it's not the first one in Ontario, btw) found that there were far vewer hospital visits, saving the public health care system serious coin. Single parents could stay home to watch their kids, go back to school to finish their high school education, and...
[02:24:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 562 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:31] <exec> 08└─After reading the linked article, still have no idea what was written in the first place. All I know is that after a 20 year absence, ESR decided to get into a bun-fight with the current people running the show. 1. After 20 years absent, it's not your place to run any more. 2. Irrelevant org fight...
[02:24:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:38] <exec> 08└─A bit of research .... From the linked article (such as it is): “I – OSI’s co-founder and its president for its first six years – was kicked off their lists for being too rhetorically forceful in opposing certain recent attempts to subvert OSD clauses 5 and 6. This despite the fact that I h...
[02:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:44] <exec> 08└─It is not. WTFPL uses legalese. It ought to be possible to simply state your will in unambiguous plain-text, rather than template everything around copyright templates and prose like the WTFPL and many others.
[02:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 1261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:46] <exec> 08└─Seems to me that a case can be made for restricting software from certain uses because it's simply not fit. Sun restricted the use of Java such that it couldn't be used in critical control systems such as nuclear reactors or flight controls because it wasn't real-time. I completely disagree. I don'...
[02:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:48] <exec> 08└─When volunteer-based organisation have "old guard" members in conflict with the current board/committee/organisers, there are rarely any good outcomes. either the oldies rally other oldies (often around the cry "change is bad"), and they all leave, making the organisation non-viable, or the oldies a...
[02:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:50] <exec> 08└─All I know is what I found from the linked article and the OSI site. If ESR wanted to say what he originally posted, he should have repeated it instead of going all coy. Or did you not actually read the linked article and see that he refused to repeat his posts? Since the mailing list no longer ha...
[02:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:52] <exec> 08└─6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
[02:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:55] <exec> 08└─You just described the DNC.
[02:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:57] <exec> 08└─Never heard of her either, but she's the author of this [contributor-covenant.org]. It reads like the Constitution of the Soviet Union, perfectly reasonable-sounding on the surface but then when it comes to how it's applied in practice...
[02:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:59] <exec> 08└─Free of charge doesn't mean free of liability. You might help someone build a fence for free, but if you harm them in doing so, you'll have your ass sued. Disclaimers of liability don't hold up in court. Ask Microsoft. They disclaim all liability for the harm done by the update to Windows 10, but o...
[02:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:01] <exec> 08└─Because you didn't bother to read the source material, as I'm doing now. Apparently, the brouhaha stems from several threads started by ESR on the License-discuss mailing list [opensource.org]. Those threads are: [License-discuss] "Fairness" vs. mission objectives [License-discuss] "Ethical open sou...
[02:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:03] <exec> 08└─It's certainly not, and has never been, up to the person licensing software to decide where and how it is used. This is laughable. The engineers designing FLIGHT CONTROL SYSTEMS don't need Java dipshits telling them what's up.
[02:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:05] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coraline_Ada_Ehmke [wikipedia.org] You can see from her "career" section on how her influence slowly spread.
[02:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:07] <exec> 08└─After a quick look, it's just another stupid philosophical war with no real-world import. Does anyone really submit licenses to OSI for "approval" any more? I mean really, who gives a shit if they approve or disapprove of a license. Just read the license and either accept it, reject it, or ask for a...
[02:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:09] <exec> 08└─Obviously the people doing MCAS could have used a bit of extra input. Same as the idiots at Uber who tried to build a self-driving car using Javascript for a hard real-time control system because javascript coders are cheap. There's a reason why there are hard-real-time systems and everything else.
[02:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 2578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:35] <exec> 08└─Alt roots have been around since the beginning. Not that it makes a difference anymore since DNS hijacking seems to be going on at the carrier level on a pretty common basis. IOW, more people are using alt-roots than are aware of that fact. And the ones they are using are not publically disclosed. I...
[02:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:36] <exec> 08└─They got caught with their pants down with something they thought nobody would care about. Now they haven't the slightest clue how to pull those pants up without leaving nasty skidmarks everywhere.
[02:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:38] <exec> 08└─You're probably right. Cynicism is the default mode this century, and even that is probably being way too optimistic. Hate to say it, but maybe we need to start passing around hosts files. Wouldn't realy affect me, I use less than a half dozen sites.
[02:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 4879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:58] <exec> 08└─According to ZeroHedge: "Trial witnesses guided jurors through a complicated maze of forensic analysis that, according to prosecutors, showed Mr. Schulte’s work machine accessing an old backup file one evening in April 2016. "He did so, prosecutors said, by reinstating his administrator-level acce...
[02:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:59] <exec> 08└─You know too much. You have to start your own company. Nobody wants someone working for them which is better than they are. Who is qualified to be your boss? Getting the job done is not what they are looking for. They want an obedient subordinate, hopefully saddled under lots of family obligations a...
[02:26:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:45] <exec> 08└─Headphones, or the office door closed, will shift the balance at work from worse than home to better than home - unfortunately they don't seem to move the needle at home.
[02:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 814 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:46] <exec> 08└─What happens, in practice, is people stay home and work from there... which is ultimately much less secure. Bitching loudly and moving the needle on the bandwidth of the leased lines is about as good as I can hope for from my perspective, and I don't want to march in on IT and start suggesting how t...
[02:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New US Bill Aims to Protect Researchers Who Disclose Government Back Doors - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:16] <exec> 08└─Uzzard is his own asshole, and that phrase works on several levels.
[02:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New US Bill Aims to Protect Researchers Who Disclose Government Back Doors - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:17] <exec> 08└─Simple answer to leaks: Send a copy to every congressman. There is NO WAY, that at least a dozen of them don't leak it. Most of them would leak nuclear secrets just to be mentioned on the "Jimmy's Sandwich Shop" monthly newsletter and coupon.
[02:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:35] <exec> 08└─Wearable heating won't keep your fingers warm if you need the dexterity only available when not wearing gloves. And no matter how warm you keep your body, breathing subzero air all the time can't be healthy.
[02:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:36] <exec> 08└─In the northern US and Canada, solar water heating is an unfunny joke. The portion outside needs antifreeze to prevent bursting in cold weather.
[02:28:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:38] <exec> 08└─Yeah, fuck socialism. God forbid we end up like those horrible shitholes Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Iceland. Awful. And mostly atheist, too, those places! God is righteously venting his divine fury on them by...uhh...making them...some of the best places on earth to live...? Huuuuh.
[02:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, they did engineered it all indeed. To be fair, they also designed the outdoor space which was much more generous than what we currently have in cities. I am sure modern green would benefit from the ideas.
[02:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:42] <exec> 08└─We can beam infrared at the occupants! https://abcnews.go.com [go.com]
[02:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:44] <exec> 08└─Since I have a real computer, I'll copy/paste a couple of quotes to describe what's actually going on: Much wider adoption of smart design features and renewable energy for low- to zero-carbon homes is one place to start — the U.N. estimates households consume 29% of global energy and consequently...
[02:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:47] <exec> 08└─Or transition to negative population growth.
[02:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:19] <exec> 08└─I can understand a producer as a work's author of record. But here's the exploit I had in mind: Someone wants to produce a derivative of a particular work but finds its author of record unwilling to license it at any price. So to start the life + 5 clock ticking, someone frustrated with the uncooper...
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[03:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:18] <exec> 08└─All participants knew it was a pilot project. They knew it would end at some point. No wonder they kept their jobs. Statistics of how many keep working or quit their job would only be valid if the participants thought that, whatever their choice, they would keep getting basic income for the rest of...
[03:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:19] <exec> 08└─And how did the accounting for the complete lack of contribution to society by said ~30% who decided to say "Thanks, dumbasses! I'm gonna watch Oprah and eat bon-bons on your dime!" get mathed up? Currency isn't a limited quantity method of transferring work but work itself most certainly is finite;...
[03:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 1355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:21] <exec> 08└─Basically that's what I (could be) probably am facing: my son (moderately to severly autistic) does little for himself. I get up at 6 am, shower and get myself ready for work. Then I get him up, shower him if he needs it, and help him dress, get his breakfast ready. While he eats, I get his lunch re...
[03:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:23] <exec> 08└─Many reported moving to higher paying and more secure jobs.... Change in motivation to find a better paying job compared to before receiving basic income: 78.9% somewhat or much more motivated. Change in ease of job search compared to before receiving basic income: 61.5% somewhat or much easier Chan...
[03:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:26] <exec> 08└─Pay someone to make your life easier. In this case that'd mean something like a highschool girl helping out for a few hours in the evening. That's money's sole purpose: to be easily exchanged for a reduction of misery. Not saying it won't mean tightening of belts but is eating beans and rice more or...
[03:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the problem is it doesn't work. See, money isn't worth a fixed value. It's valued by the amount of work done in your nation. If over a quarter of the workforce decide they'd just really rather not work if it's all the same to you, your money just decreased in value by over a quarter. Which mea...
[03:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Captival [6866] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:30] <exec> 08└─Of course the people getting free shit reported that they were happy about it. Ask the middle class people whose taxes increased it to cover it, the outcome won't look quite as rosy. Yang came in last. Nobody voted for him. Not even gimme-dat Democrats wanted the putz. Just because you dress up Com...
[03:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:32] <exec> 08└─On this website, a point about basic economics on an economic topic such as UBI gets modded "Offtopic"! This place is fucking hopeless.
[03:24:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 470 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:40] <exec> 08└─Here is the problem: Coraline Ada Ehmke She has done more than anybody else to cause destructive internal strife in Open Source software projects. Her being on the OSI board is simply appalling. OSI needs to be defunded and ignored if she can not be removed. It's so bad that you have to wonder if Co...
[03:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:08] <exec> 08└─The Personal life section also explains how he spread his influence.
[03:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:09] <exec> 08└─I've got to disagree - if you're waiving your legal rights, a certain level of explicitness is called for. "Do anything you want." What if I want to turn your refined software into a buggy, crappy morass malware and back doors, while still publishing it as your creation? That's not obviously somethi...
[03:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:11] <exec> 08└─Indeed, if you make it the business of the license... then you may open yourself up to the same sort of legal liability.
[03:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:13] <exec> 08└─When volunteer-based organisation have "old guard" members in conflict with the current board/committee/organisers... ...either the oldies ...all leave, making the organisation non-viable, ...all everyone fights, everyone leaves, making the organisation unviable ...the new people leave, making the o...
[03:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:15] <exec> 08└─Someone has to tell Boeing which way is up.
[03:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:17] <exec> 08└─But... Everybody loves Eric Raymond [geekz.co.uk]
[03:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:19] <exec> 08└─Corporate cuckoos' eggs hatched strong and active chicks. Now they own the nest.
[03:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:22] <exec> 08└─Setting aside the issue of whether humans have free will (I would believe it if it turns out we don't), I tend to use the Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication [creativecommons.org], which has much the same effect but is a proper legal document.
[03:28:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:51] <exec> 08└─Then he should be getting 10x the work multiplied by 5 times the intelligence = 50 times my compensation. Instead, I would have to save my income from a thousand lifetimes to get the same wealth. I'm not lazy or stupid, either. That's beyond ridiculous. It's outright criminal.
[03:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:53] <exec> 08└─Your math is defective. $300 billion (wealth of top 3) divided by 150 million (half the US population) is $2000. The average wealth of the bottom 50% in the US is well over $2000, the price of a poor quality used car.
[03:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:55] <exec> 08└─The countries you cite are not socialist, they are mixed market economies injured by a partially socialist welfare system. Current socialist states are places like Venezuela and North Korea.
[03:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03toddestan [4982] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:57] <exec> 08└─A big part of it seems to be that's all they build as single family homes go. You either get a McMansion, or something like a townhome with a shared wall. Nothing in between. If you want a small single family home, go buy something built in the 50's. If you want something a bit larger, go find a nei...
[03:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:59] <exec> 08└─You were willing to project 400 years on faith.
[03:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03toddestan [4982] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:01] <exec> 08└─I agree the numbers don't add up, but also keep in mind there's a lot of people who have a net worth that is negative. In other words, they could sell off everything they own and wouldn't be able to pay off their debts (mostly student loans and credit cards, but also mortgages, car loans, etc.). Som...
[03:29:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:03] <exec> 08└─A large house is one of the finest rewards for a productive life. It takes years of living to compare the two, but the advantages of big are manifold. Lower stress. Room to display artwork, room for a workshop. Spare room for guests. A garage to protect your vehicles from the weather. A home theater...
[03:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03toddestan [4982] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 1142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:05] <exec> 08└─That seems odd to me. Around here, it's the new buildings that I'm most comfortable in as a tall guy. Tall ceilings are all the rage now. 9' ceilings in houses, and I've been in office buildings where the ceiling is practically high enough that you could add a second story under it. The tall ceiling...
[03:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:07] <exec> 08└─When you project the bad side, that's called cautious pessimism. The cautious pessimist isn't surprised as often by things going poorly. The cheerful optimist on the other hand can make Mad Max a reality.
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[04:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:34] <exec> 08└─That's part of why everyone gets mod points, to correct the revenge mods of the butthurt.
[04:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:35] <exec> 08└─One bad m0d point = FUCKING HOPELESS. Great economics there, chief.
[04:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:37] <exec> 08└─The other name for UBI (in the States) is "Welfare for Everybody." You don't want the entire country on welfare? Why not?
[04:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:39] <exec> 08└─If over a quarter of the workforce decide they'd just really rather not work
[04:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:41] <exec> 08└─my son (moderately to severly autistic) does little for himself... talk with him about school
[04:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:44] <exec> 08└─Average cost to care for an Autistic child, meaningless, but I've seen numbers like $80K/yr thrown around. We have 2, and due to my (sub $160K/yr) income we are ineligible for ANY benefits, I guess we're tightwads not spending $80K/yr on each of them since we also have a roof, food, cars, insurance,...
[04:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:46] <exec> 08└─I'm still waiting for someone to work out how UBI in the long run does not simply raise the cost of everything proportionate to the UBI. No small-scale trial is likely to encounter it, but if you go full-hog then you'd better have a plan for when it (in my view) inevitably happens...
[04:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:48] <exec> 08└─Government should be set up so that no man need be afraid of another.
[04:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:31] <exec> 08└─They disclaim all liability for the harm done by the update to Windows 10, but one woman took them to court and got $10,090.00.
[04:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:33] <exec> 08└─AKA "Emrace, Extend, Extinguish" accelerated by moles. I KNOW I'm paranoid, but I'm starting to think I'm nowhere near paranoid enough.
[04:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:35] <exec> 08└─You've seen her shit. I'm not even sure if she can help it, it's like some kind of tourettes thing. The extremely personal issues she has with free software, free speech, and so many other things require intense psychotherapy, and probably stronger meds.
[04:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:37] <exec> 08└─He's defending the anti-discrimination clauses. I'll back that 100%, but I'm not sloughing through all the messages to find out if he started talking about using his prosthetic on people who disagreed, or some other terrible thing, so I'm not ready to start going all, "poor ESR." Either way, people...
[04:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:26] <exec> 08└─I hate when you shitbags on SN say reasonable things. It's like 1 in 100 but fuck you, don't force me to read the other 99 in case it's the 1.
[04:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:29:16] <exec> 08└─Your math is defective. $300 billion (wealth of top 3) divided by 150 million (half the US population) is $2000. The average wealth of the bottom 50% in the US is well over $2000, the price of a poor quality used car.
[04:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:51] <exec> 08└─I'm a little conflicted... On the other hand there are series writers who have carefully crafted a universe in their works over longer spans than that and I think they should be protected for at least as long as they keep writing.
[04:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:53] <exec> 08└─That'd require you to police all works produced in similar media
[04:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:30:55] <exec> 08└─A band can still make money with live performances. Very few people are going to pay to watch an author read a book, which is why wordsmiths need copyright in order to make a living from their work.
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[05:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:40] <exec> 08└─Can't you guys form, like a retard circus with those kids? They can do Billy Joel cover on piano while you pull yourselves up by the bootstraps.
[05:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:42] <exec> 08└─You don't need UBI until you do. People don't need health insurance until they do. Where are you going with this?
[05:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:44] <exec> 08└─You could probably easily make up that 30% from: - chronically unemployed anyway - no longer needed DSS employees - less wasted time commuting due to traffic reductions - improvements in efficiency due to only having motivated employees - cutting out wasteful job-creation programs You have some stra...
[05:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:46] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that a good portion of the people who would drop out of the workforce because they had UBI are the yahoos you don't want in the workforce anyway. The lazy and incompetent people who make your (second person pronoun; not necessarily you, TMB) life more difficult by being in your way at...
[05:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:48] <exec> 08└─Agree. It feels like UBI is an abstract solution to practical problems. What is THE PROBLEM? Let's fix that.
[05:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:50] <exec> 08└─See, money isn't worth a fixed value. It's valued by the amount of work done in your nation.
[05:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:52] <exec> 08└─Would it help if you thought of it as dividends to the stake holders?
[05:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:40] <exec> 08└─> Uber who tried to build a self-driving car using Javascript Have you seen this somewhere reliable? First I've heard this detail, couldn't find a reference online.
[05:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:41] <exec> 08└─So we got all the CoCs from a cock. Not surprised.
[05:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:43] <exec> 08└─The guys who wrote the software for MCAS did a fine job. It performed exactly to spec. The problem was with the management who installed a single point of failure sensor and who covered up the extent of the changes to the plane in order to avoid expensive re-training of pilots.
[05:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:46] <exec> 08└─According to this second-hand Boeing sensor, it is about 45 degrees down from horizontal.
[05:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 2018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:48] <exec> 08└─Redhat are just NSA shills, Open Source couldn't handle the hacker ethos and the movement behind free software; so they stripped down all the ethical, political, and philosophical concerns to try and appease their corporate over-lords; and Linus Torvalds along with all the rest of them sold out a lo...
[05:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:50] <exec> 08└─Open Sores software attracts grifters. Linus is not one of them, nor is Alan Cox, but ESR and Sue-boy Bruce Perils certainly are. And, they are falling off the gravy train. Sucks to be them. True hackers know to avoid the "suits in tie-dye" like the plague, or corona virus. I hope ESR is entitled...
[05:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:25] <exec> 08└─That's because you haven't achieved his level yet. He has multiple wives and multiple girlfriends. What concerns me are the children.
[05:28:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 53 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:31] <exec> 08└─provides estimates for the optimal spatial dimensions
[05:29:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:31] <exec> 08└─It's more profitable for the builders to build a McMansion.
[05:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:32] <exec> 08└─Hrr... you are correct. This is basically a cell I pay for, for which I only really leave to go out to work. Yes, I do go out to visit a park sometimes. It's.. a cell. Thanks for that. At least I have a TV and internet.
[05:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:34] <exec> 08└─If there's enough pie for everyone to get exactly 1.5oz each, how can everyone get 500lb or 3oz from it?
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[06:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:13] <exec> 08└─Trusting your ISP is insanity.
[06:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:15] <exec> 08└─Seems like trusting anybody only leads to trouble. Is there anyplace that hasn't leaked yet?
[06:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:17] <exec> 08└─The issue (according to TFS) was with one or more payment processors and not with the VPN tunneling or management software, as the headline implies. Granted, if data is/was exfiltrated from a payment processor that you used, the credit card you used and the fact that you pay for a VPN may be exposed...
[06:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:19] <exec> 08└─Yup. My personal infrastructure. No. You can't use it.
[06:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:21] <exec> 08└─After reading TFA, I thought it useful to add a little more detail. Apparently, while the vulnerable parties were payment processors used by NordVPN, unauthenticated access to that data was obtained through HTTP POST [wikipedia.org] requests through the nordvpn.com domain. Based on what I read, it's...
[06:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:58] <exec> 08└─Pay someone to make your life easier.
[06:25:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 359 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:20] <exec> 08└─Yeah, um, no. His beefs were with those particular points but not even slightly the way you're framing them. But if you told the truth, I'm assuming you know the truth here in the first place, it would mean you had to say he was right in his free speech and meritocracy views, which are directly oppo...
[06:25:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 957 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:30] <exec> 08└─Because you didn't bother to read the source material, as I'm doing now. Apparently, the brouhaha stems from several threads started by ESR on the License-discuss mailing list [opensource.org]. Those threads are: [License-discuss] "Fairness" vs. mission objectives [License-discuss] "Ethical open sou...
[06:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:53] <exec> 08└─That's not a legally valid contract. I can't tell whether the woman who won the $10,000 from Microsoft was indeed victim of a similar scheme, but this isn't software being operated for a risky purpose for which it wasn't intended. And for someone who doesn't even know what Windows 10 is, much less h...
[06:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:55] <exec> 08└─>What if I want to turn your refined software into a buggy, crappy morass malware and back doors, while still publishing it as your creation? That's not obviously something you intended No, that would be an acceptable result to me if I were to waive my rights. Anyone receiving software under such a...
[06:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bug1 [5243] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:57] <exec> 08└─Yep; We are free to forge the chains that are used to enslave us, thats as much freedom as our corporate overlords will allow us. FOSS is dead.
[06:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 1108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:59] <exec> 08└─The tl;dr is that ESR objected to "ethical" licenses as open source. "Ethical" licenses are basically licenses that say "you can use our software, but not if you're doing something unethical with it, as determined by us". I think it's obvious that this is being pushed by social justice warriors of s...
[06:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:01] <exec> 08└─Haha, Coraline-Ada is from the wrong kind of rainbow! You've been shoving the diversity phallus down our throats since how long but you're just another transphobic-Ruby hater.
[06:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:03] <exec> 08└─> Or did you not actually read the linked article and see that he refused to repeat his posts? What words did you read that expressed *refusal* to so do? I read the linked article, and the linked to blog post, and therein ESR *explicitly* stated that he didn't even know which posts had been consider...
[06:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:32] <exec> 08└─Cynicism is the default mode this century, and even that is probably being way too optimistic.
[06:29:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:29:49] <exec> 08└─Current socialist states are places like Venezuela and North Korea.
[06:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:29:50] <exec> 08└─Yikes, that's not very inclusive of you. Live in the pod and eat the bugs, you bigot!
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[07:24:27] <exec> 08└─https://spacenews.com/iceye-spotlight-commercial-offer/ [spacenews.com] https://spacenews.com [spacenews.com]
[07:24:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 770 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:24:35] <exec> 08└─Previous reports on this particular experiment (it's not the first one in Ontario, btw) found that there were far vewer hospital visits, saving the public health care system serious coin. Single parents could stay home to watch their kids, go back to school to finish their high school education, and...
[07:24:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 856 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:24:40] <exec> 08└─Many reported moving to higher paying and more secure jobs.... Change in motivation to find a better paying job compared to before receiving basic income: 78.9% somewhat or much more motivated. Change in ease of job search compared to before receiving basic income: 61.5% somewhat or much easier Chan...
[07:24:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 284 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:24:51] <exec> 08└─I'm still waiting for someone to work out how UBI in the long run does not simply raise the cost of everything proportionate to the UBI. No small-scale trial is likely to encounter it, but if you go full-hog then you'd better have a plan for when it (in my view) inevitably happens...
[07:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:01] <exec> 08└─That is an average. I saw similar data for autism and other disabled children. You'd might be surprised how high the outliers actually are, given that many people spend almost nothing in comparison bring down the average way down despite the skewness.
[07:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:02] <exec> 08└─Ah, so that is why you run an army of sock puppets!
[07:25:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 238 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:32] <exec> 08└─Never heard of her either, but she's the author of this [contributor-covenant.org]. It reads like the Constitution of the Soviet Union, perfectly reasonable-sounding on the surface but then when it comes to how it's applied in practice...
[07:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:03] <exec> 08└─The guys who wrote the software for MCAS did a fine job
[07:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:05] <exec> 08└─Actually, Sun DISCLAIMED use in critical control systems such as nuclear reactors or flight controls because it wasn't real-time. Stating clearly that X is not suitable for Y nor is it intended to be is not the same as restricting the license. Many products and services include such statements even...
[07:26:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03quietus [6328] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:07] <exec> 08└─OpenBSD. On another strand of thought, one has to fear what this will do to female programmers' contribution to open source, or simply to the amount of women programmers/IT professionals. A couple of days ago, a lawyer over here got into hot water. He stated not to hire women anymore, after he had h...
[07:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:09] <exec> 08└─You're sure putting a lot of time and effort into something you claim not to give a fuck about. I guess it's just another opportunity for you to talk out of your ass. Good times!
[07:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:11] <exec> 08└─You can run Unix-like command lines from Windows now...
[07:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:41] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure they do. They will put their hands over their ears and hum "nah nah nah nah" im not listening" then side with the corporate entity.
[07:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:51] <exec> 08└─Not really. The floor below me at work is now filled with warm bodies from India. Well, mostly India. So many of them are trying to get permanent jobs. They now have a bridging process. If this continues my country will be Indian. Even now they deliberately hire based on skin and country of origin t...
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[07:27:53] <exec> 08└─2D wife See also; waifu
[07:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:55] <exec> 08└─Care to share what you're using? I have a few pairs of the 3M Peltor X5A .com], but it seems they're only rated -31dB.
[07:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:57] <exec> 08└─IBM tried to do this to us. They had us locked into their products which included licences that the business came to depend on. The day came to evaluate the cost. Yes, we were locked in. But. There were open source alternatives. True, other products didn't have the integration or features, but they...
[07:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:30:07] <exec> 08└─Rambling roof line: We have hurricanes! The will act like a wing and lift off the house if its area is all in a single roof line, or not steep enough to act like a spoiler. If you strap the roof to the walls well enough it can't lift off, and the walls to the foundation a cat 5 can lift the entire s...
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[07:30:09] <exec> 08└─And don't want your vehicles life to be extended via garage storage. Here is the scorching hot south you can keep vehicles looking nice 5-10 years longer if it's in the shade at work and home. Tthat reduces waste.
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[08:24:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 76 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:55] <exec> 08└─If over a quarter of the workforce decide they'd just really rather not work
[08:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:10] <exec> 08└─Gotta have those freeways jammed to "create jobs" for helicopter pilots. They in turn need bad weather to "create jobs" for those who'll cut corners for celebrity clients.
[08:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:11] <exec> 08└─get themselves a Chez lounge
[08:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Myfyr [3654] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 2849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:14] <exec> 08└─IANAE, but here's my understanding: It shouldn't raise the cost of most basic living expenses, because the free market still exists. There shouldn't be any general inflation, assuming it's not paid for by printing money, because the money supply in the economy hasn't increased. It's just redistribut...
[08:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:19] <exec> 08└─I had forgotten, if I ever knew. One look at the photo on Wikipedia makes the situation clear. The thing looks like a man with lipstick, probably because it is or was. In any case it isn't a real woman and never will be one. It wants female pronouns. Many logical people would use male pronouns, whic...
[08:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:20] <exec> 08└─You're a fucking moron. The judgment makes it clear what the sequence of events was. But you're too stupid to look for it, or any story about it. Shallow khallow. Your imaginary scenario didn't happen. So, another straw man argument built on a false assumption.
[08:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:22] <exec> 08└─Not my problem. I'm done doing other people's research . Try the green site a year or two ago after Uber laid off 1/3 of their developers.
[08:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:24] <exec> 08└─And here's the problem with $9 an hour developers from India - you have to spell out a lot more for them because they won't do any of the stuff that real developers would just assume had to be done as part of the regular process. This isn't a new problem, either. Different cultures have different id...
[08:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:26] <exec> 08└─Web "developers " are by definition the wrong kind of anything. Has nothing to do with anything except their propensity to fuck up everything they touch.
[08:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:41] <exec> 08└─I read that as quality control is ineffective, and until something went wrong nobody was listened to. Raising concerns to "an engineer" when it's going to be a very public, very expensive failure at minimum? Yeah, that sounds like the people you want in charge when they are required to spot and repo...
[08:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:59] <exec> 08└─So what? You're not obligated to use a browser. The web isn't the internet.
[08:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New US Bill Aims to Protect Researchers Who Disclose Government Back Doors - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:45] <exec> 08└─The Espionage Act of 1917 is wildly out of date with modern society.
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[09:25:14] <exec> 08└─The thing is, the free market doesn't guarantee that the prices reach some sort of floor. Rather, the free market converges on the ceiling - pulling out as much profit as the market can bear. And on the whole, we're greedy assholes (our at least we let the greedy assholes run the show). Don't get me...
[09:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:15] <exec> 08└─The proletariat cannot be allowed to be share holders. This isn't communist Russia.
[09:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:17] <exec> 08└─I may disagree with his economic ideas, but you are just nuts. TMB runs the codebase, if he were inclined to cheat (and I don't think he is) he doesn't need sockpuppets. He could just put in a line: If userid==18 Then MOD = +5 Fisherman;
[09:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:20] <exec> 08└─I don't think a UBI would raise house prices in the city. It is never going to be enough to buy a suburban house with. It might even drop them by getting some people to stay in the bush, reducing the rental market. Most of the kids I knew left our town to get jobs in the cities.
[09:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:22] <exec> 08└─You could have half the workforce quit their jobs on UBI and if it resulted in less hospital visits, less spent on daycare, less on commuting, and more on people doing stuff for themselves, then there is a good chance that society would be better off overall.
[09:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:31] <exec> 08└─He could have just copy/pasted all his posts from the period in question, but no, better to leave everyone guessing. Both ESR and the OSI are useless at this point. Seriously, when is the last time anyone brought either of them into a discussion. They're like RMS nowadays, out of the picture.
[09:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:33] <exec> 08└─A distinction without a difference. And the GPL doesn't meet clause 6 of the OSI definition , as someone else pointed out, and yet it is approved. So much for that.
[09:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:35] <exec> 08└─I don't do link requests any more for lazy people
[09:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:37] <exec> 08└─Not my problem. I'm done doing other people's research
[09:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:39] <exec> 08└─If he's on board, the ship is lost already. It would be interesting to hear about how this process starts, where scummy politicians gain power in an organization.
[09:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:41] <exec> 08└─Funny you should say that. I saw a chap over at Hacker News or some other forum who suggested that Theo de Raadt is going to be the next one on the cross. His personality won't do him any favors, as the wielders of CoCs will take advantage of the smallest of flaws. Even Cardinal Richelieu needed at...
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[10:24:11] <exec> 08└─...limited contact information such as names, home, and email addresses and phone numbers,
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[10:26:14] <exec> 08└─The tl;dr is that ESR objected to "ethical" licenses as open source. "Ethical" licenses are basically licenses that say "you can use our software, but not if you're doing something unethical with it, as determined by us". I think it's obvious that this is being pushed by social justice warriors of s...
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[10:26:33] <exec> 08└─List: openbsd-misc Subject: Re: Code of Conduct location From: Rachel Roch Date: 2019-04-28 13:33:50 Message-ID: LdZ8hw5--3-1 () tutanota ! de [Download RAW message or body] Apr 28, 2019, 9:16 AM by chohag@jtan.com : > Strahil Nikolov writes: > >> Hello All, >> >> can someone point me to t...
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[10:26:35] <exec> 08└─I've learned one thing from being an entrepreneur for 35 years: when there is unguarded money on the table, the wolves arrive [hintjens.com].
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[11:24:19] <exec> 08└─Compared to the billions already breached?
[11:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:24:37] <exec> 08└─No, but it doesn't reflect well on their corporate security culture. I prefer to swim with the SurfSharks.
[11:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03webnut77 [5994] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:24:39] <exec> 08└─No, worries. All your Microsoft telemetry data is safe. /s
[11:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:29] <exec> 08└─Damn, Gaark, my heart goes out to you. That's tough sledding. I hope your wife's treatments yield positive results. Prayers for all of you.
[11:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:30] <exec> 08└─TMB, for the love of god. If the most fractional part of the highest earners of this country paid the taxes as laid in the spirit of the law this shit would be a non-issue in short order. Personally I haven't the slightest clue what to do with that kind of extra money because I fear if i put it away...
[11:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:32] <exec> 08└─Also your guys' editorializing turns me on something fierce. Legit can't tell which of you is making commentary, trying to be objective, or what. You glorious shriveled raisins. It's too bad there's a chance you'll never see these posts because I don't have karma boost and my flash drive is allll th...
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[11:25:34] <exec> 08└─"The price of bread isn't going up, because any supplier who increases their price is going to be driven out of business by competition from all the cheaper suppliers." That works in a Capitalist economy: what we have today is a sort of Neo-capitalism...you buy up all your competition (which the gov...
[11:25:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 1261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:58] <exec> 08└─Seems to me that a case can be made for restricting software from certain uses because it's simply not fit. Sun restricted the use of Java such that it couldn't be used in critical control systems such as nuclear reactors or flight controls because it wasn't real-time. I completely disagree. I don'...
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[11:26:53] <exec> 08└─Huh. The above linked article considers the reasons and the strategy for destroying Github. In the very last para, an update was given by the author (who died 2 years ago). He mentioned that the scenario was playing out full well, as the original instigator, Julie Ann Horvath, (made unfounded sexu...
[11:27:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02 - 06Former CIA Software Engineer Joshua Schulte Convicted of Minor Charges, Not Espionage - 458 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:36] <exec> 08└─You joke, but you're not wrong. Planting co is an obvious tactic, and it is just astounding how often it oh do conveniently crops up is cases where the government is unable to produce evidence for the original charges. As for false statements to the FBI: that shouldn't be a crime in the first place....
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[12:25:42] <exec> 08└─And what, pray tell, does this look like in families that are at the fourth or fifth generation of UBI-supported unemployment?
[12:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:02] <exec> 08└─Please don't swear.
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[12:28:50] <exec> 08└─Everything useful I've accomplished has been accomplished at home. I only go into the office to satisfy people in suits who insist I sit there. Between the sales guy who spends all day yelling into his phone, the helpdesk guy whose phone spends all day yelling at him, the guy with the chronic cough...
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[12:31:03] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but that's an answer to a different question: Soviet question: What's the smallest floor area per person for basic survival. TFA question: What's the smallest floor area per person for an environmentally sustainable home? But I suspect you knew that, and only brought it up because you wanted...
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[12:31:05] <exec> 08└─Your own parking spot? Luxury. In modern Britain we have to walk 5 minutes to road where t'car's parked, and pay council for privilege of parking there!
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[13:24:16] <exec> 08└─First off, it's corned beef [wikipedia.org], not "corn beef". What's that? One of those newfangled meat substitutes made of corn? Ignorante! Secondly, what's wrong with corned beef sandwiches?! Thirdly, it's a team of Britischers discussing cooking of all things! Everybody knows that in hell the Bri...
[13:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taxi Dudinous [8690] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Check Point Chap: Small Firms Don't Invest in Infosec Then Hope They Won't Get Hacked - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:30] <exec> 08└─I hope I don't get hacked. I hope I don't get hacked. I hope I don't get hacked. You clicked on it and nothing happened? Awww Crap!
[13:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:44] <exec> 08└─Are you sure your personal infrastructure hasn't leaked yet? Maybe you just didn't notice it.
[13:25:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03charon [5660] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 675 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:19] <exec> 08└─It seems to me that a good portion of the people who would drop out of the workforce because they had UBI are the yahoos you don't want in the workforce anyway. The lazy and incompetent people who make your (second person pronoun; not necessarily you, TMB) life more difficult by being in your way at...
[13:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:40] <exec> 08└─You could probably easily make up that 30% from
[13:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:41] <exec> 08└─It looked wrong to me, but it's what the little old lady called it in her quote.
[13:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:43] <exec> 08└─The price of bread isn't going up, because any supplier who increases their price is going to be driven out of business by competition from all the cheaper suppliers.
[13:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:05] <exec> 08└─I don't know why you are so confused on this, it is clearly about the creation of social justice licenses (like the one that denies a license to ICE or such).
[13:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:06] <exec> 08└─I find it interesting that you wrote this five minutes after you wrote [soylentnews.org]: Everyone is being held to that standard - or to rephrase it yet again for shallow khallow's inherent limited understanding, everyone should be expected to be called out when they are hypocrites.
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[13:31:09] <exec> 08└─> Freedom encourages people to produce, and that benefits everybody Except we are now in a situation where the freedom to persuade everyone to buy shit they don't need is encouraging everyone to OVER produce and OVER consume leading to environmental meltdown, bringing us full circle back to the poin...
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[14:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Virgin Media Data Breach Exposes Info of 900,000 Customers - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:33] <exec> 08└─This is nothing. Wait 'til we go cashless...
[14:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Check Point Chap: Small Firms Don't Invest in Infosec Then Hope They Won't Get Hacked - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:41] <exec> 08└─A small firm has little money so McAfee or Kaspersky Is the INFOsec until they can establish themselves. The risk of getting crushed by competition is a far greater risk.
[14:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Check Point Chap: Small Firms Don't Invest in Infosec Then Hope They Won't Get Hacked - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:43] <exec> 08└─And it's among the many things that fit into that space. The more there are, the more large firms are naturally favored, and certain kinds of ideological psychopaths think only government action can create them.
[14:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 2640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:56] <exec> 08└─For sure, free money means some things will be getting more expensive. No way in hell landlords will charge less than what people have in their pockets for rent. On the other hand, right now we have a big divide between people who can pay and those who can't - so, you're looking at $800 down and $40...
[14:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:57] <exec> 08└─we have good reason to be afraid of another
[14:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:59] <exec> 08└─But, is that fear necessary for a good quality of life?
[14:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:01] <exec> 08└─Dividends for what? At least for business, it's profit.
[14:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:24] <exec> 08└─What if I want to turn your refined software into a buggy, crappy morass malware and back doors, while still publishing it as your creation?
[14:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:26] <exec> 08└─Even Cardinal Richelieu needed at least six lines to hang someone.
[14:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:28] <exec> 08└─her
[14:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:30] <exec> 08└─> with zero significance The good old People's Liberation Front?
[14:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:32] <exec> 08└─The reason for banning esr is not relevant. Because it's too much of a coincidence for 3 free software related orgs to have an attempt of beheading in an year. And let's not forget python founder going away, ian of debian murdered and debian going from software in the public interest to a do-ocracy,...
[14:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:34] <exec> 08└─Silica gel famously warns you not to eat it.
[14:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:36] <exec> 08└─So, I can also patent the methods used in the code and ban the creator for touching it, right?
[14:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:38] <exec> 08└─It's where I got my Shwarts -Yogurt
[14:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:54] <exec> 08└─And a fine summary at that. Unfortunately, I've already read the pieces and had my own impressions of it. Specifically, the dissonance between a decade long promise for reusable rockets and the delivery of cheap disposable rockets built on a factory line out of stainless steel. And to give you some...
[14:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:55] <exec> 08└─Starships being made cheaply does not mean that they will be routinely disposed of. It is just a bonus. In a fully reusable mode, they would already be able to lift more to low Earth orbit than what most customers would require. Cheap Starships make it easier for SpaceX to participate in a Mars vani...
[14:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:57] <exec> 08└─A fraction of the company's resources are currently focused on this project, they are not publicizing or livestreaming most of the tests themselves, and they clear everyone out of there during tests. The failures appear to be very inexpensive and are not threatening any lives. Nobody will be riding...
[14:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:29] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. Just like you, your culture is being replaced.
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[15:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:11] <exec> 08└─Did MS push an update to their Win10 that brought them all down?
[15:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:12] <exec> 08└─Next up, you'll be declared a criminal for not upgrading to Win15, or whatever. If MS were truly interested in security, they would have baked security in, before they ever had a working OS. Kinda like *nix-like OS's.
[15:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kitsune008 [9054] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:14] <exec> 08└─So, Microsoft took 9 million PC's running Windows offline. Bully for them. /sarcasm They should clean up their mess.
[15:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06High-Severity Flaws Plague Intel Graphics Drivers - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:24] <exec> 08└─Cheap AMD NUC plz.
[15:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 1267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:02] <exec> 08└─It would be less of a problem if they stopped demanding so much user data just to process a credit transaction. People don't realise that when they use credit cards their personal data is sent along or demanded as "proof". I had a wonderful example of this. I had a card without address data. Which m...
[15:25:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Common Joe [33] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 37 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:43] <exec> 08└─Pay someone to make your life easier.
[15:26:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 1179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:07] <exec> 08└─Maybe I read TMB's comment wrong. I read it as getting "a little help", not as "hire a caretaker". I can easily see having an older girl, or even a young woman, high school or college age, to help out for as little as an hour, or as much as 6 or 8 hours, maybe one evening per week, or as much as 7 d...
[15:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:08] <exec> 08└─I think that I can answer that. Most people in those families won't dream of looking for real work. They might go out and hustle a dollar here and there, but work? No way. Only a relatively small proportion of those people will be dissatisfied to the point of making major life changes, in an attempt...
[15:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:10] <exec> 08└─BINGO!!! We have a winner! We have seen the same thing with welfare, of course. The more money Uncle Sam spends to ensure that everyone can afford a gallon of milk every day, the more expensive the milk gets. If Uncle spent no money buying groceries on all his illegitimate children, the price of com...
[15:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:40] <exec> 08└─You are criticizing a transgender person, so your comments are automatically dismissed as transphobic.
[15:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, machine, you can try it. It's your will, after all. But maybe, you underestimate the street. We have no use for lawyers. This is why the License does not use legal wording: it stays out of legal paradigm of privileges and slavery.
[15:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:44] <exec> 08└─reading this from the outside world and loosely skimming along, it seems that she shouldn't have to back up the claim to not do other people's research with research. anyway you guys are ganging up on her for a technicality and she seems irritated and replied in such a manner. were professionals rig...
[15:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:46] <exec> 08└─>Anyone receiving software under such a license should be critical as to the source Under what license? Proprietary? GPL? The sleazy intermediary can release it under any license they like, and most customers probably won't be aware one way or the other. They just know "your" software is a bunch of...
[15:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:48] <exec> 08└─Can you call it a beheading if the head was already gone for 20 years? And if you followed ESR a bit over the years you could argue that there were a few loose screws before that already....
[15:29:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:40] <exec> 08└─> Many females just can't grasp having a man around not doing as she orders. This is my own experience with my wife. When we're both home, it's often a honey-do every few minutes. I almost never ask anything of her. I tested this one evening by trying to play a 3 minute time limited game over and ov...
[15:29:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:41] <exec> 08└─Try voxels. Holo-waifu.
[15:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Downsizing the McMansion: Study Gauges a Sustainable Size for Future Homes - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:58] <exec> 08└─I know :) But when the kind of idiot like the one I replied to says "socialist" they're trying to conflate Venezuela with Denmark. There is more meaning behind what these people say than the literal face value of their words. They have an agenda, and they are leaning into it. If you don't pay attent...
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[15:32:00] <exec> 08└─Ooooh, excellent argument! If heroin and cocaine and fentanyl are such an issue why is there demand for them? If $HARMFUL_THING is so bad, why is there demand for it? You stupid motherfucker.
[15:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:38] <exec> 08└─At least they make up for it by increasing the mp3 bitrate up to 96 kbps to ensure highest audio fidelity.
[15:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Appeals Court Rules Led Zeppelin Did Not Steal Stairway to Heaven Riff - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:39] <exec> 08└─I prefer crisp and clear 7.5 Kbps sound [soylentnews.org].
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[16:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 1634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:18] <exec> 08└─In Windows 95 Microsoft added, for the first time, an optional (laughable) login screen. IIS runs (or once did run) effectively in kernel -- in an attempt to have the efficiency of Apache, without regard for security implications. Self executing email viruses were a fun joke in the Usenet days. Micr...
[16:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:19] <exec> 08└─As for Windows 15, I think they've said it will forever be Windows 10 going forward. Just as Macintosh is OS X forever and ever.
[16:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:21] <exec> 08└─Tom Burt, Microsoft's vice-president for customer security and trust,
[16:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Check Point Chap: Small Firms Don't Invest in Infosec Then Hope They Won't Get Hacked - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:55] <exec> 08└─"Especially," he said, "here in Europe for SMEs, it's very clear that management has not invested in security and is hedging their bets, playing the odds or whatever term you want to use, on not getting breached. The reality is they will get breached. They're not investing in the controls or systems...
[16:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:18] <exec> 08└─The figures I read were 28% of the employed and 24% of the unemployed went back to school of some type. There was a proportion that had abusive jobs quit. The previous experiment in Dauphin Man. saw Mothers staying home with their kids instead of working and teenagers staying in school instead of go...
[16:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 1579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:54] <exec> 08└─Shallow khallow did no such thing. I made reference to a specific judgment, where a woman went to use her computer and found that, without any interaction from her, it had attempted an upgrade to Windows 10 and failed. Shallow khallow was too lazy to actually do what I said - search for "woman wins...
[16:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:56] <exec> 08└─See my rebuttal elsewhere, shallow khallow. You provided a link that had nothing to do with the actual case, which was a woman who went to use her computer and it had been upgraded to Windows 10 without her doing anything. Paul Thurot is a long-time Microsoft shill. You're just a troll.
[16:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 3031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:58] <exec> 08└─The whole thing was discussed on the old green site. Everyone had a good laugh when it was pointed out that they were trying to develop a real-time self-driving car system using Jaqvascript because (1) javascript monkeys are cheap, and (2) Uber hasn't got a clue. I keep telling people to do their o...
[16:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:00] <exec> 08└─Your people have really interesting ways of saying thank you!
[16:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:02] <exec> 08└─I'm not "confused" - I just don't see the relevance of either ESR or the OSI. ESR abandons the OSI for two decades, then comes back all pissed off because he doesn't like how things are being done. Seriously - after 20 years? He has no moral claim to the OSI or how it's run at this point. Tempest i...
[16:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:04] <exec> 08└─Not quite. You can use a GPL compiler to write proprietary software.
[16:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:06] <exec> 08└─You're a troll. Everyone knows it. Get over it. Take your place beside pee in a cup fusty, shallow khallow. You obviously don't know my standards. They include total disrespect for trolls like you. Your account has all the earmarks of a troll account, same as fusty's did. Expect to be called out o...
[16:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:08] <exec> 08└─You are criticizing a transgender person, so your comments are automatically dismissed as transphobic.
[16:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Working from Home: Lessons Learned Over 20 Years - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:01] <exec> 08└─https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#How_good_is_Wine_at_sandboxing_Windows_apps.3F [winehq.org] Wine does not sandbox in any way at all. When run under Wine, a Windows app can do anything your user can. Wine does not (and cannot) stop a Windows app directly making native syscalls, messing with your files, a...
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[17:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:13] <exec> 08└─Windows really does have a lower Total Cost of Pwnership!
[17:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but 3.1.1 is slightly past 'end-of-life' date
[17:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:27] <exec> 08└─/* Some signs your device may have malware on it Programs begin to operate more slowly or take longer to open The computer regularly crashes and needs to be rebooted Space on a computer's hard drive fills up without warning */ thar describes every windows machine...
[17:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:29] <exec> 08└─Or...at least until there's a new COO and changes on the BOD.
[17:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft takes down global zombie bot network - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:31] <exec> 08└─Yeah. OSX at least has cool names like Leopard, or Snow Leopard or tiger, or lion or cheetah. Win10 has 1803, 1809, 1903, 1909. How boring is that?
[17:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High-Severity Flaws Plague Intel Graphics Drivers - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:42] <exec> 08└─There's a fair bit of money to be made "fixing" the Intel video library implementations, particularly 3D rendering. I invested about 4 man months just refining one application (released and functional on NVidia for a decade) so that it didn't step in any of Intel's Mesa driver dung heaps. Maybe 10%...
[17:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gastronauts: Developing Food Ready for the Next Space Race - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:51] <exec> 08└─Let's not kid ourselves here, though. There's SpaceX way out ahead, like watching the end race in the movie "Secretariat", and then there's the pork barrel that is SLS. Essentially, everyone else didn't even make it to the race.
[17:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gastronauts: Developing Food Ready for the Next Space Race - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:53] <exec> 08└─One of the issues listed is that everything tastes bland in zero-g. So who else to go to but the experts at feeding people bland food?
[17:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:28] <exec> 08└─Think about it. They claim to need this data for security. What security? Credit card fraud is covered by the banks and card systems. No, they are chosing to forgoe a sale if they can't collect the end user's personal data.
[17:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:36] <exec> 08└─The problem is that ROBOTS ARE HERE.
[17:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Myfyr [3654] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:37] <exec> 08└─Unless all the cheaper suppliers go out of business because they're supplying below cost.
[17:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 3692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:39] <exec> 08└─I think there is a difference between UBI and services intended to help the legitimately disabled. What you may be arguing for is more services to help those that legitimately can't help themselves. I would argue that that's different than something like UBI where you are just giving people that can...
[17:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 1622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:41] <exec> 08└─Careful how you read the Baron de Montesquieu, context and tone is important. Were I to vindicate our right to make slaves of the negroes, these should be my arguments: The Europeans, having extirpated the Americans, were obliged to make slaves of the Africans, for clearing such vast tracts of land....
[17:27:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 321 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:21] <exec> 08└─When volunteer-based organisation have "old guard" members in conflict with the current board/committee/organisers... ...either the oldies ...all leave, making the organisation non-viable, ...all everyone fights, everyone leaves, making the organisation unviable ...the new people leave, making the o...
[17:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:26] <exec> 08└─I know exactly who or what khallow is - I've been on this site a while. But nevertheless, he should not have to prove your claims.
[17:28:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:27] <exec> 08└─And if anyone doesn't know it, you're being very proactive in telling them. I count four posts under this article so far?
[17:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:29] <exec> 08└─More like a college geology club for an example with an official annual budget under $200. Near as I can guess, the people in question were looking for resume bullet points, and thought (correctly) that club office positions would be a low effort way to get that. Club activity went from 4-6 trips/ac...
[17:28:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:31] <exec> 08└─That doesn't match with my understanding. The relocation of the engines meant that the plane could become unstable, and/or stall, if flown at a high angle of attack. MCAS would periodically trim downward if its sensor (singular!) indicated this, and bring the plane back "level". If the sensor input...
[17:28:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Open Source Initiative Bans Co-Founder, Eric S. Raymond, from its Mailing Lists - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:33] <exec> 08└─They just know "your" software is a bunch of malware ridden crap, and stay away from it in the future.
[17:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:52] <exec> 08└─yesterday's news, next week!
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[18:24:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 57 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:10] <exec> 08└─Windows really does have a lower Total Cost of Pwnership!
[18:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:12] <exec> 08└─Is this how they took down the 9M bots?
[18:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:14] <exec> 08└─Last night my new Dell (POS, see my review) got really slow and annoying, so I started shutting down apps when a message came up about an urgent update; previous patches didn't act like that. The update took hours, started it around 7:00 and it was still going when I went to bed. It booted it severa...
[18:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:24] <exec> 08└─It's a lot easier to secure a closed-off wired local net than an always online computer.
[18:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:37] <exec> 08└─And if my wife got leukemia I would be driven bankrupt in addition to dealing with all the stuff you have to deal with. I seem to recall you're in Canada. So I wonder, why do you consistently support the people in the US who prevent us from getting the same medical benefits you already enjoy?
[18:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:38] <exec> 08└─'eh, we do that already. It'd be nice, if the wife got UBI for doing what she's already doing. Still, I'm uncertain the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to UBI.
[18:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:40] <exec> 08└─https://naturalsociety.com/sulforaphane-broccoli-kills-cancer-cells/ [naturalsociety.com]
[18:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:43] <exec> 08└─i don't mean to make light of their condition, but vaccines are great, huh?
[18:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:45] <exec> 08└─it's just a con to get people completely dependent on government. no strings...for now.
[18:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv [3756] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:53] <exec> 08└─SN01 exploded during a test to see if the weld would hold up under pressure. It did exactly what it was supposed to do - leave something worth learning from. This is old news. That all happened 10 days ago. The result? SpaceX *already* learned leason from the test failure. They've redesigned the thr...
[18:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:12] <exec> 08└─Firefox 74 has DNS over HTTPS. However they do not turn it on by default for UK users after big brother complained about how evil it is.
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[19:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:19] <exec> 08└─It's about time for another coronavirus update sub. Or a quality aristachu sub. Either one - I'm cool.
[19:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:20] <exec> 08└─WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus says, "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!"
[19:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:22] <exec> 08└─No, he's only saying up to 15% of the old people will die, so don't panic, we might be able to afford Social Security after all.
[19:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:33] <exec> 08└─I saw the same thing about the restart. Took only a few minutes though. Maybe you just got last fall's big update. No "Microsoft Solitaire Collection" in the menu? You know the routine. Just run a Linux VM on the win10 host.
[19:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:34] <exec> 08└─A Linux VM on a win10 host? Geez, why not just pull your pants down in public and write the words "poke me" on your forehead. The routine is wipe windows, install Linux. If you absolutely have to, run a Win10 VM on a Linux host. Honestly, nobody 'has' to run win10...
[19:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gastronauts: Developing Food Ready for the Next Space Race - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:10] <exec> 08└─Switch the sauerkraut with kimchi. Problem solved.
[19:26:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 1355 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:05] <exec> 08└─Basically that's what I (could be) probably am facing: my son (moderately to severly autistic) does little for himself. I get up at 6 am, shower and get myself ready for work. Then I get him up, shower him if he needs it, and help him dress, get his breakfast ready. While he eats, I get his lunch re...
[19:26:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Myfyr [3654] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 2849 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:31] <exec> 08└─IANAE, but here's my understanding: It shouldn't raise the cost of most basic living expenses, because the free market still exists. There shouldn't be any general inflation, assuming it's not paid for by printing money, because the money supply in the economy hasn't increased. It's just redistribut...
[19:26:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03deimtee [3272] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 237 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:34] <exec> 08└─I may disagree with his economic ideas, but you are just nuts. TMB runs the codebase, if he were inclined to cheat (and I don't think he is) he doesn't need sockpuppets. He could just put in a line: If userid==18 Then MOD = +5 Fisherman;
[19:26:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 747 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:41] <exec> 08└─"The price of bread isn't going up, because any supplier who increases their price is going to be driven out of business by competition from all the cheaper suppliers." That works in a Capitalist economy: what we have today is a sort of Neo-capitalism...you buy up all your competition (which the gov...
[19:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:04] <exec> 08└─I'm not opposed to UBI if we could make it work financially. I think it would be a better system than the current welfare system, which would certainly have to be dismantled to pay for part of it. And of course, if it was applied Universally (as in, the U in UBI). I just don't see a way to make it w...
[19:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:05] <exec> 08└─Which is why I'd probably still vote against UBI. Now, if we wanted to cut the defense budget by say 25%, then we might could get somewhere. Just don't pull it from something like NASA . . .
[19:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:07] <exec> 08└─+5 grammar nazi (in a good non-snarky way).
[19:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:17] <exec> 08└─THE MAIN ARTICLE BEING DISCUSSED IS FROM THE 5TH.
[19:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:18] <exec> 08└─If you want hourly updates on Starship, you can go to Teslarati.
[19:29:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Months, $1bn... and ICANN Still Hasn't Decided Whether to Approve .Org Sale with 11 Days to Go - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:37] <exec> 08└─With DNSSEC, they purposefully invented a specific naming protocol for just browsers
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[20:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:15] <exec> 08└─Imagine if we had test kits in the US for coronavirus. We might actually know what the actual infection rate really is. We might be in for a surprise. Two weeks. [youtube.com] New US policy: Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is more gooder for you. We shore don't need no scientists. And intellectuals.
[20:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:26] <exec> 08└─I appreciate that he waited until after we are already past the point of containment and after China has theirs under control. Never trust the WHO
[20:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:28] <exec> 08└─<no-sarcasm> The editors thought sarcasm tags were necessary? :-) </no-sarcasm>
[20:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:30] <exec> 08└─I read today that South Korea has their under control . . . because of . . . OMG . . . TESTING! Gee, I wish we had Testing in the USA. If we had testing, we might know what the real numbers of infections are. Maybe we're in for a very rude awakening once test kits eventually become available.
[20:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:32] <exec> 08└─You stuff more and more money into it at some point, it has to produce something.
[20:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:34] <exec> 08└─Given that most every user here is on the spectrum, and it is text, ya it seems like a good idea!
[20:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:36] <exec> 08└─Move along - nothing to test here. Comment below if you want toilet paper cheap (prepaid bulk order only).
[20:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:38] <exec> 08└─News of SLS being behind schedule and over budget will come as a shock to many. But we should take comfort that no problem is so great it cannot be solved by throwing more taxpayer money at it.
[20:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:40] <exec> 08└─Bidets will be cheaper than TP soon.
[20:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:42] <exec> 08└─it has to produce something.
[20:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:44] <exec> 08└─SpaceX has done so much in such a short time period, I think it took everyone by surprise. Saying you want to make space rockets and actually making viable space rockets are two totally separate things. SpaceX has done a superb job and thanks to them, I might actually see some cool footage from the...
[20:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:57] <exec> 08└─Three Fine Articles on the front page are Microsoft topics. I do not use Microsoft. I do not know anyone who uses Microsoft. Why should I have to wade through all this coverage of the flaws of a toy operating system, to try and get some STEM news? Please, eds, select more pertinent articles.
[20:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:59] <exec> 08└─Sorry, my program needs win10's access to the hardware. I just load it with a spam catcher account to let it do its thing.
[20:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Takes Down Global Zombie Bot Network - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:15] <exec> 08└─They've finally dealt with the source of the the Get Windows 10 campaign.
[20:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Takes Down Global Zombie Bot Network - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:17] <exec> 08└─OSX at least has cool names like Leopard, or Snow Leopard or tiger, or lion or cheetah. Win10 has 1803, 1809, 1903, 1909. How boring is that?
[20:26:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 946 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:49] <exec> 08└─You could probably easily make up that 30% from: - chronically unemployed anyway - no longer needed DSS employees - less wasted time commuting due to traffic reductions - improvements in efficiency due to only having motivated employees - cutting out wasteful job-creation programs You have some stra...
[20:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:34] <exec> 08└─Thank you.
[20:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jay [8679] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 2400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:36] <exec> 08└─It's quite likely to revitalize small towns. A large percent of them are slowly dying out, all across america. The one I grew up in is on it's last generation or two before it's gone for good. The problem is that as we've consolidated manufacturing (largely overseas) and started to have giant mega-m...
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[21:24:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 298 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:10] <exec> 08└─Imagine if we had test kits in the US for coronavirus. We might actually know what the actual infection rate really is. We might be in for a surprise. Two weeks. [youtube.com] New US policy: Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is more gooder for you. We shore don't need no scientists. And intellectuals.
[21:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:11] <exec> 08└─Better get your money out of the bank before somebody puts a lien on it for non-payment of bills.
[21:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:13] <exec> 08└─Remember how 9/11 gave government a reason to go beyond their (then) wildest mass surveillance wet dreams? Coronavirus might give government the excuse it needs to eliminate all cash. For your safety! Think of the children! Etc. Get your money out of the bank? Oh, you mean transfer it somewhere?
[21:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:16] <exec> 08└─Like South Korea? Where they used a quick rest and got slammed by the WHO for having so many infections? Goddamn stupid hype. It's a cold virus, spreading like wildfire is what it does. Most people get over it. It's not even the flu.
[21:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:18] <exec> 08└─This is what Mother Nature came up with, and far from her worst. We have enemies, and they are cooking up horrors in their biowarfare labs. What happens when we are hit with something much worse than SARS COV 2, with nothing more than our current ability to respond? This is a national security issue...
[21:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:20] <exec> 08└─I'm so glad to have your advice that is contrary to what all the experts are saying. It's definitely not necessary to take any sensible precautions. What do those silly experts know. We don't need no testing kits.
[21:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:22] <exec> 08└─We could only dream to have as competent response as South Korea's has been. South Korea has tested 140,000 people for the coronavirus. That could explain why its death rate is just 0.6% — far lower than in China or the US. [businessinsider.com] The US and South Korea announced their first cases o...
[21:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:24] <exec> 08└─I imagine the government wouldn't do that. Cards are private, cash is a public instrument. I can guarantee private interests do NOT want to lose their monopoly on cards, and thus would have a vested interest in making sure cards stay private, and thus cash remain as the public option.
[21:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:26] <exec> 08└─If by most, you mean, possibly up to 15% of certain demographics dying from said disease, then sure. Most people get over it. Even, if 49.99% of people that contracted the virus died. Then, most people would have survived it.
[21:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:28] <exec> 08└─Let's call it a low-ball 50% of people in the US get it. And let's use South Korea's death rate that I cited above: 0.6% There are 327 million people in the US 327,000,000 * 0.5 * 0.06 = 9,810,000 dead people!
[21:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:30] <exec> 08└─The government would LOVE to get rid of anonymous cash. I don't think the government minds privately operated payment systems, like Visa. As long as big brother can see where and how all the money flows. That's all they want. (for now) To remove the privacy of anonymously exchanged cash. Coronavirus...
[21:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:32] <exec> 08└─0.006 lol! about a million dead folks...
[21:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LaminatorX [14] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 1068 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:34] <exec> 08└─Compared to our regular dance with Influenza, this is more contagious in the early symptomatic phase - such that people who don't feel super-sick yet are shedding more live viruses as they go about their business hoping to "shake off this cold," significantly more deadly to the elderly, and less dea...
[21:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:36] <exec> 08└─It's more than a million dead folks. It's the fear and panic that comes with it as it happens. The businesses that don't survive. (corporations are people too!) People who lose their jobs. People who lose their homes. There is much more suffering than just the cold numbers of the loss of life.
[21:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:38] <exec> 08└─I don't watch all that much news, but I caught some local stories of people who have symptoms, had been in some kind of contact with confirmed COVID-19, were quarantined, but were not tested. Great clip- thanks!
[21:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:41] <exec> 08└─It's also more dangerous than the flu because nobody is immune to any strain of it yet. (other than, potentially, recovered people) The real risk, as you note, is it spreading so quickly that it overwhelms out support services. And a lack of immunity will certainly contribute to that. Also, a lack...
[21:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:43] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxETe8uKbw [youtube.com]
[21:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:45] <exec> 08└─A raise I was supposed to get in April has been postponed until further notice. At my wife's work, a charter contract that was going to earn them $100k just got cancelled. This is definitely going to kick us square in the economy. Which was only hanging on because of massive deficit spending anyway....
[21:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:47] <exec> 08└─This is a national security issue and people who want strong national defenses should be all over it.
[21:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:49] <exec> 08└─Our local cancer research center volunteered some lab space and is able to test for COVID-19 as of last week. Any swabs taken here (Western NY State) will be checked overnight if not sooner. So far, I think there have only been a few dozen people tested locally (travelers, I guess), all negative so...
[21:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03SemperOSS [5072] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:51] <exec> 08└─A Danish friend (living in Sweden, incidentally) just told me that nurseries/kindergartens, schools, colleges and universities in Denmark will close from Friday. All non-essential public servants (i.e. everyone apart from people in the health sector, police and carers) are sent home for 14 days with...
[21:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:53] <exec> 08└─Official numbers as of earlier this evening: 1900 infected. Testing the broader population is not possible. One infection reported among the about 600 Bundestag members, one infection reported among the pro football players (about 40 teams of 20 players for about 1600 players). Can we therefore gues...
[21:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:55] <exec> 08└─People are so stupid. I feel like people should be stockpiling beer and weed instead. If you are stuck at home, might as well have some entertainment. Beer also doubles as food and water. You can't eat toilet paper, but you can wash your ass in the shower.
[21:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:57] <exec> 08└─... and then what? What do you do 14 days later?
[21:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:59] <exec> 08└─No matter how badly things get for most people, we must not tax the wealthiest 3 men in the country who own more than the bottom 50 % put together.
[21:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:01] <exec> 08└─Oh, and I'm sorry to hear about the rough times. Hopefully it is not so bad as to destroy your life.
[21:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:03] <exec> 08└─COVID-19 was secretly developed by a Chinese toilet paper manufacturer.
[21:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:23] <exec> 08└─It might not be possible to send people anytime soon. But it would be nice to see some real progress. More rovers. Robots setting up bases for eventual human occupation. Producing fuel from local Martian resources to refuel return vehicles. Have fully fueled return vehicles ready before the first hu...
[21:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:25] <exec> 08└─So ... this China virus is fuck-the-boomers virus ... that what you are saying? Some kinda "batshit" karma?
[21:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows has a New Wormable Vulnerability -- No Patch in Sight - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:40] <exec> 08└─I don't use SpaceX products, but I enjoy the variety.
[21:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Check Point Chap: Small Firms Don't Invest in Infosec Then Hope They Won't Get Hacked - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:38] <exec> 08└─Checkpoint is anything but small. They used to own the firewall industry in the 90s.
[21:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:57] <exec> 08└─OP here. Given that I run several domains (with downtime only when I have no Internet connectivity from *both* my ISPs) as well as my own DNS with multiple ISPs and and a diverse set of resources, I make an effort (aided by 20+ years of *professional* InfoSec experience) to secure my environment and...
[21:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top VPN Software Had a Major Security Flaw - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:58] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure, yes. But unlike most folks, I have the knowledge and skills to both secure *and* monitor my environment. If I knew (and trusted) you personally, I'd give you the opportunity to *try* to hack my sites. I've done that before too. So far, so good. However, your question is a valid one....
[21:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Radar Movies Track Motion on Earth's Surface - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:07] <exec> 08└─A website or app that will tell you when one of these satellites is overhead. You can freeze for the critical 30 seconds and no one will see what you are up to!
[21:27:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:39] <exec> 08└─Would it help if you thought of it as dividends to the stake holders?
[21:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 1254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:23] <exec> 08└─If you actually read the report, only 9 people out of the 240 or so were not working when this ended. That summary fails to mention that about the same amount of people that weren't working when this started now have jobs. 40% of the people that quit working went on to school to better themselves...
[21:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:35] <exec> 08└─SpaceX has delivered on partially reusable rockets
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[22:24:18] <exec> 08└─The fucker tried to reinvent C++, the same moron that came up with Java generics.
[22:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:20] <exec> 08└─When I find my code in tons of trouble, Friends and colleagues come to me, Speaking words of wisdom: "Write in C." As the deadline fast approaches, And bugs are all that I can see, Somewhere, someone whispers: "Write in C." Write in C, Write in C, Write in C, oh, Write in C. LOGO's dead and buried,...
[22:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 1075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:22] <exec> 08└─Visual Basic - I predict it will never really die, due to the load of spreadsheets used by people who have absolutely no understanding of the magic that makes their reports work every quarter... Objective-C - About time is all I can say - ultra-transparent lock-in efforts by Apple, Inc. notwithstand...
[22:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:24] <exec> 08└─The dope thought obscure syntax gymnastics to cook up what APPEARS like "domain specific language" is a neat idea. Debugging is a foreign concept to this clown.
[22:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:26] <exec> 08└─Just because something has fallen out of favor, does not mean it is not worth studying. It just means you probably won't be a rock star programmer with it, but rather a balding long-termer who keeps the shit running while the damn kids keep spinning their wheels trying to re-write the entire codebas...
[22:24:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 519 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:40] <exec> 08└─We could only dream to have as competent response as South Korea's has been. South Korea has tested 140,000 people for the coronavirus. That could explain why its death rate is just 0.6% — far lower than in China or the US. [businessinsider.com] The US and South Korea announced their first cases o...
[22:24:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:58] <exec> 08└─No matter how badly things get for most people, we must not tax the wealthiest 3 men in the country who own more than the bottom 50 % put together.
[22:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:01] <exec> 08└─14 is fine. It's 28 days later that I worry about!
[22:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:03] <exec> 08└─I'd rather my work wake the fuck up and allow working from home during this emergency that to get that raise. As of now it looks like I'll be getting neither! (We'll be fine though, thanks)
[22:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:05] <exec> 08└─The real tell will be 9 months later -- mini baby boom is my prediction.
[22:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:07] <exec> 08└─Italy has death rate of 6+% even by wrong CDC measure.
[22:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:09] <exec> 08└─Nah to a small part of your post, about 5% of common colds are caused by coronaviruses. That could imply that a fair number, though maybe not most, people have some level of immunity to similar infectious agents. Obviously nowhere near enough to curtail the rapid spread. Nor specific enough to provi...
[22:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:12] <exec> 08└─Italy 206 Korea 151 Norway 116 Bahrain 115 Iran 107 Qatar 91 Denmark 89 Switzerland 75 China 56
[22:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:14] <exec> 08└─mini baby boom is my prediction.
[22:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:16] <exec> 08└─Harvard, MIT and other universities are stopping classes a week early, before spring break, and telling students to pack up and stay home after spring break, classes will be continued over the 'net. Here's the MIT announcement, https://web.mit.edu
[22:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:18] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what you've been wishing for? A tanking economy to have a chance at getting president Biden? Glad you are materially affected too.
[22:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:20] <exec> 08└─Convenience can definitely be a good incentive. Too bad, you're getting the inconvenience, disregard for health, and no raise options all rolled into one. I'm still hopeful that it will be a lot less problematic than has been observed to this point. Lots more people actually having been infected, wi...
[22:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:22] <exec> 08└─Trump was eventually going to fail miserably at some disaster. A tanking economy would be the least terrible one he could make worse. But don't you worry. I make enough money to profit off the recovery. The Trump voters on the other hand, not so much...
[22:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:24] <exec> 08└─0.6% of people feeling sick enough to present at a health care facility.
[22:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:26] <exec> 08└─Honestly it might be a difference in book keeping: Depending on the country and the condition, complications might be written down as the cause of death rather than the original disease / trauma. For instance, most people dying from the flu are counted as lung infections or some other complication r...
[22:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:28] <exec> 08└─On Campus / boarded students earn the University more money. Not shutting your campus down for the most part and having 3% of your students die due to COVID-19. Not very good PR.
[22:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:30] <exec> 08└─Death rates, phooey! I have been reduced to wiping my ass with Presidential tax returns, because of all of the irrational panic buying and hoarding. Most of the harm is going to be self-inflicted, I see. It is kind of like Microsoft Windows, in that regard.
[22:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:32] <exec> 08└─Netherlands total average 30 per million, southern part 93 per million. Numbers will rise again tomorrow.
[22:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 1306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:34] <exec> 08└─Age demographics Italy population Nearly 60% of the population is aged 40 and over, about 23% of which is over 65 South Korea 13% of the population is 65 and older United States 16% of the population is 65 and older So for the portions of the population who will primarily be affected, we should see...
[22:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:37] <exec> 08└─It's been long established that numbers on waiters' pad, particularly those in Italian restaurants, are ... unstable (more like unreliable but I don't wanna get sued), but the recent breakthrough finding shows that the numbers on waiters' pads can't hold a candle burning bat's fat compared to ChiCom...
[22:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:39] <exec> 08└─Though your sentiment is praise worthy, your it is misdirected. We need corporate regulation more than anything else. Specifically, corporations who do business internationally. These are the entities that are stealing the wealth of real prople and causing societal unrest. If these corporations have...
[22:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:41] <exec> 08└─Well, we did have the whole bunch of people come over from that cruise ship. Maybe, South Korea was a bit more proactive/paranoid when it came to dealing with likely and/or known infected citizens?
[22:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:43] <exec> 08└─Our hand sanitizer kills 99.99% of germs!
[22:25:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:45] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the only way to really combat this at the top level is some kind of global governance, and I don think anybody that loves diversity or growth would like that very much. Money has no real borders, but people do.
[22:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:47] <exec> 08└─Bullshit. Countries can use diplomacy to structure economics without destroying cultures.
[22:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:49] <exec> 08└─Yes, they are good. It did help that they had a very narrow vector through that jesus sect and it is yet to be seen they really contained the bug, but they sure reacted well.
[22:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 1549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:51] <exec> 08└─There were a lot of factors that prevented early testing 1. China's lack of cooperation and active crackdown on information about the virus. Refusal of any outside researchers including the WHO. 2. Inaccurate tests used globally, 30-80% false negatives 3. Laws in the US preventing testing by non-CDC...
[22:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:53] <exec> 08└─Not while the same people that are making the money are signing the bills
[22:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:55] <exec> 08└─No matter how badly things get for most people, we must not tax the wealthiest 30 people in the country who own more than the bottom 50 % put together.
[22:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:57] <exec> 08└─So what, you want human nature to suddenly not apply? People are going to do what benefits themselves, see all of human history.
[22:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:59] <exec> 08└─If you have it, could you share a source for the age triage Italy used?
[22:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:02] <exec> 08└─Or it might be that they responded VERY FUCKING AGGRESSIVELY AND TESTED EVERYONE THAT THEY COULD GET THEIR HANDS ON. Pretty much the exact opposite of what the USA did, eg. send vector untrained staff in to socialize with people who were supposed to be under quarantine and then send them back home o...
[22:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:04] <exec> 08└─I think that there are plenty of examples of selflessness scattered throughout history. But to your point, hauling out a trope doesn't absolve people who make decisions from responsibility, even if the types of decisions they made to get to where they are are the ones that are detrimental to society...
[22:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA OIG: Tell Congress that Moon Rocket is Over Budget and Behind Schedule - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:26] <exec> 08└─Really! Two words: Poe's Law [wikipedia.org].
[22:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gastronauts: Developing Food Ready for the Next Space Race - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:19] <exec> 08└─Sounds like you want some Szechuan chefs instead.
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[23:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:19] <exec> 08└─I remember almost 30 years ago when I had to write FORTRAN for my engineering curriculum, there was talk of the dying language COBOL over at the business school. The only context where I've heard it mentioned since then is as a punchline for jokes about obsolete computers. I had assumed it was alrea...
[23:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:20] <exec> 08└─Lisp/clojure bares naked what programming languages are, especially those that come from procedural languages (most of us).
[23:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:22] <exec> 08└─I believe a scary volume of financial transactions pass through COBOL code every day, still. I think the year was 1983 when my Fortran teacher said "COBOL is dead, but will live forever due to the amount of installed code" - our local college had just removed the paper card punch terminals and repla...
[23:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:24] <exec> 08└─Yep, just substitute BASIC for Python and COBOL for Java to make it modern.
[23:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:26] <exec> 08└─For all those funny languages may be good for the humans, but certainly not good enough for the machines.
[23:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:28] <exec> 08└─This is my sad experience as we speak. Perl is dying exactly because nobody wants to study it. My management forces me to give up Perl because they can't find youngsters to replace us.
[23:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 1582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:30] <exec> 08└─I don't know. I used Perl(5) on and off historically, mostly to deal with existing legacy stuff others had written, so I knew it on a basic level, but never put the effort in to understand it. Spent most of my time in Python (and C occasionally). Funny thing is, after Python3 was released, and I fou...
[23:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:32] <exec> 08└─I thought Ruby had taken over from Perl.
[23:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 1217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:35] <exec> 08└─Are VB and VBA really the same thing though? VBA definitely isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but standalone VB is almost certainly done. Python seems to have supplanted Perl for much of the backend/admin scripting of Linux etc., so possibly, although there's still a LOT of Perl in the traditional...
[23:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:37] <exec> 08└─FORTH EXCELLENT = . 1 OK
[23:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 1329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:39] <exec> 08└─Objective-C is very interesting because it is a simple and elegant pure superset of C. It's what NextStep, OpenStep, GNUStep and the GUI of MacOS X were written in. Ten years ago I bought a book on Scala. It was a nice Object Oriented language for the JVM with functional programming features (lambda...
[23:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickM [2867] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:41] <exec> 08└─LISP also train you think about code as a something you can manipulate with code, that is a powerful concept and this concept applies to other languages albeit in a less hygienic way.
[23:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:43] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but Objective C was not developed by and not a property of Apple. Objective C was an excellent language with lousy documentation. If you didn't want to use the Apple fork you basically needed to know someone who already knew how to use it to learn how to use it. It had it's problems, but they...
[23:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:45] <exec> 08└─Lisp had a lot of potential, but it had the problem that until (I think it was) Steel Bank Common Lisp was released a compiler cost around $1500. By the time cheap compilers were around, other languages had built libraries and user groups. That said, it had/has a few problems with variable access, e...
[23:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:47] <exec> 08└─https://factorcode.org/ [factorcode.org]
[23:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:49] <exec> 08└─I have found that most of the obscure scripting languages (like SquirrelScript) were basically "doing Python" before Python got popular, and they were a bit ahead of Python in this area or that for a while, but the snake has pretty well squeezed the scripting world to where it is the weapon of choic...
[23:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:51] <exec> 08└─It can't die fast enough.
[23:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:53] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but Objective C was not developed by and not a property of Apple.
[23:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:55] <exec> 08└─LISP really should not be in this list. It is indeed a family. Some dialects have fallen by the wayside, granted, but Scheme is beautiful, useful, and being used all over the place.
[23:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03noelhenson [6184] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Top 7 Dying Programming Languages to Avoid Studying in 2019 –2020 - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:58] <exec> 08└─I still love Forth though I have not programmed in it in maybe 8 years or so. It is truly astounding how much code one pack into a small space with it and have it execute at amazing speeds.
[23:25:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 213 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:11] <exec> 08└─I'm so glad to have your advice that is contrary to what all the experts are saying. It's definitely not necessary to take any sensible precautions. What do those silly experts know. We don't need no testing kits.
[23:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:04] <exec> 08└─What are the error rates of the test? Or do we have enough data for that, yet?
[23:26:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah, checks and balances. Welcome to the eighteenth century
[23:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:08] <exec> 08└─enough trump bullshit. motherfucker is literally dangerous to our country. he's programmed his minions to ignore science and call this a democratic hoax. he should be removed from office immediately. that won't happen, so please remove him come november. they'll try lots of dirty tricks between now...
[23:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:10] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the circle jerk we call civilization schmucklehead
[23:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:12] <exec> 08└─you mean, "one-hung lo" ? that guy?
[23:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:14] <exec> 08└─Don't fuck with korean jesus. He busy, with korean shit.
[23:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:16] <exec> 08└─The cruise ship was already late in the process. The critical phase was when people left Wuhan before the disease was recognized after a meeting on ?maybe?"The Lunar New Year Festival". Sorry, that might not be the correct meeting. But that was after the disease was spreading and before it was recog...
[23:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:18] <exec> 08└─Say we had the China data. At what point would the Trump administration have listened to the warnings of scientists? Pretty sure it would have been when the stock market crashed and we were already infected....
[23:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:20] <exec> 08└─Getting your hands on the president's tax returns, or toilet paper, would definitely be newsworthy!
[23:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:23] <exec> 08└─Well, the idea is that by 14 days after exposure you should be aware of your symptoms and see the doctor. Unfortunately that's merely statistically probable. I think around 60% or 70% of people know within 14 days. So it should slow down the epidemic, but not stop it. Still, slowing it down is a maj...
[23:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:25] <exec> 08└─https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101135/Intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-coronavirus-outbreak-worsens.html [dailymail.co.uk] https://www.businessinsider.com [businessinsider.com] In the second link it uses as a sou...
[23:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization Declares the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Outbreak a Global Pandemic - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:27] <exec> 08└─In 2020, the first day of the Chinese New Year was on Saturday, 25 January, which initiated the Year of the Rat.
[23:27:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Microsoft Takes Down Global Zombie Bot Network - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:16] <exec> 08└─Tom Burt, Microsoft's vice-president for customer security and trust,
[23:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Takes Down Global Zombie Bot Network - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:22] <exec> 08└─The problem is that most people that have their computers taken over are too computer illiterate to know how much hard drive their computers have. It's no different than those people that fall for those scammers that keep calling you. "I'm from such and such and my company gave me this large check a...
[23:29:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Canada's UBI Experiment Results Compiled - 2640 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:26] <exec> 08└─For sure, free money means some things will be getting more expensive. No way in hell landlords will charge less than what people have in their pockets for rent. On the other hand, right now we have a big divide between people who can pay and those who can't - so, you're looking at $800 down and $40...
[23:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:02] <exec> 08└─Falcon 9 can lift more than double to LEO than what it was originally planned to. Falcon Heavy is a "heavy lift" launch vehicle. You are throwing around platitudes.
[23:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:03] <exec> 08└─I am not impressed much by a design using 37 engines. There is some good math theory about cumulation of defects in complex systems out there, already for a century or more. Quite relevant to space industry of Old Times. In car analogy, imagine a failure rate of a car using 37 engines... I suggest a...
[23:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Starship Prototype Explodes, but SpaceX Isn't Stopping - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:05] <exec> 08└─These rockets can actually continue to work [spacenews.com] even if an engine fails in flight. Try that with a single large engine. Maybe you should smoke some more weed and get back to us. You probably won't learn anything, but the results could be entertaining.
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