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[00:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:19] <exec> 08└─After 60 is makes sense to start smoking to help cognitive capacity. It was very well known by native Americans who smoke only after making the elders council. They had the same attitude to drinking.
[00:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:20] <exec> 08└─The Iranian engineer I worked with in a previous job loved a drink. According to her Tehran is awash with booze and always has been. The Islamist authorities turn a blind eye, but crack down on anyone who gets too open about it. She also told me that the Islamic government would be overthrown tomo...
[00:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:22] <exec> 08└─Indians who wait until age 60 to drink? They sure don't make 'em like they used to,
[00:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:24] <exec> 08└─That's part of the problem with Islam. Few muslims follow the teachings closely and Mohamed was clear that the only sure way to reach paradise was to die as a martyr in jihad. Now imagine growing up believing that message and hitting a low point in your life.
[00:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:27] <exec> 08└─Look at some footage of Iran in the70s. They were chevy-driving, bikini-clad-sun-tanning, Aryan hedonists. Iranians are different from desert dwelling Saudi Arabs. For that matter, Iraqis, their Arab neighbors to the west, are/were quite different from the desert dwelling Saudis. And then there are...
[00:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:29] <exec> 08└─I too was born with the wisdom of the elders.
[00:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:31] <exec> 08└─Arabs own the magic rock so the other muzzies have to put up with them, even though they give the religion a bad name. If all Muslims were Iranian the world would be a much better place.
[00:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah, Persians I know are more Rita Panahi than Ali Khamenei, however, when we look at pictures from the '70s and see a forward looking society we overlook that the religious loons were demographically significant to have instituted and held theocratic power for so long.
[00:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:35] <exec> 08└─Pahlevi regime was pretty damn corrupt, and the resistance found its focus thru their version of Islam - sorta "back-to-basics" ideology, given that it's the "West" - i.e., UK/BP/CIA - that overthrew Mossadeq regime.
[00:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:37] <exec> 08└─Smoke? Use the nicotine patch like Sherlock.
[00:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:40] <exec> 08└─According to this study that says there is no safe level of drinking https://www.sciencedaily.com [sciencedaily.com]
[00:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:42] <exec> 08└─Things go better with coke [conandoyleinfo.com]
[00:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:44] <exec> 08└─That's part of the problem with Islam. Few muslims follow the teachings closely...
[00:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:01] <exec> 08└─If the other companies it would seem that "not as lean" would mean, "more people employed."
[00:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:03] <exec> 08└─From 2019 GM Tesla Production 7,718,000 vehicles 367,500 vehicles Revenue 137.237 billion 24.578 billion Net income 6.732 billion −862 million Assets 228.037 billion 34.309 billion...
[00:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 2352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:05] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the market isn't right about this. Maybe Tesla is worth more than Toyota, because battery electric vehicles are the future of personal transportation. Tesla is way ahead of everyone else. If they haven't already, BEVs are close to surpassing gasoline powered vehicles for most use cases....
[00:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:17] <exec> 08└─It has long been suggested that hot jupiters formed far from the host star an then migrated sunward. Perhaps we are looking at the end stage of a jupiter after all of its volatiles boiled away, leaving only the rocky core. Mind you, I've never read anything that explained how this migration was supp...
[00:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 2042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:55] <exec> 08└─Gold Rush? Nope. Total annihilation of most metal markets. Even complex alloys will fall in price dramatically, and that cost will be related mostly to fabrication and not materials. Once we have lowered the cost to get to space enough, we can transition to the moon. At the moon, we can build automa...
[00:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:56] <exec> 08└─Consider this. The deepest mine in the world (and possibly the deepest that humans have accessed) is only 4km deep. The deepest artificial point of any sort is the Kola Superdeep Borehole [wikipedia.org] which has achieved depths of over 12 km down (there are longer oil well holes, but these are mos...
[00:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:58] <exec> 08└─Time doesn't matter to the machine doing the work. It just has to produce as fast as we consume.
[00:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 2272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:00] <exec> 08└─You have no idea. Having experience with bore holes going down just shy of 20k, I can say there is a big difference between a shallow well between 5k and 8k deep and a 35k deep on. I forget which oil company did that, but I heard they achieved a 35k. The difficulty is that you have to, segment by se...
[00:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Acquires Smart Glasses Maker North - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:21] <exec> 08└─We can get Trump re-elected with all the proliferation of videos of The Knockout Game and other instances of violence and harassment undertaken by a criminal minority of Blacks and upper middle-class Jews and Whites dressed in Antifa colors. You go ahead and disband your police departments. Those co...
[00:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Disney Research Neural Face-Swapping Technique Can Provide Photorealistic, High-Resolution Video - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:31] <exec> 08└─Two. Two times.
[00:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Disney Research Neural Face-Swapping Technique Can Provide Photorealistic, High-Resolution Video - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:32] <exec> 08└─They're best off tucking the entire tired franchise into hypersleep for the rest of the decade.
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[01:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:28] <exec> 08└─According to her Tehran is awash with booze and always has been.
[01:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Revek [5022] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:29] <exec> 08└─Next up a new study shows just buying bottle of wine will kill you.
[01:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:31] <exec> 08└─You’ll just die earlier less of an idiot
[01:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:33] <exec> 08└─Next up a new study shows just buying bottle of wine will kill you.
[01:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:35] <exec> 08└─I should like to see a study that compares the effects of drinking wine with drinking fresh grape juice. Even better might be to eat grapes, as we now realize that juicing the fruit throws out an awful lot of good, healthy stuff. Otherwise, why shouldn't I think this yet another advert for the alcoh...
[01:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:38] <exec> 08└─The Pahlavi regime was incredibly corrupt, and vicious which is why it enjoyed almost no public support by the end. The people who really pushed the Iranian Revolution early on were actually pretty liberal students, but the Ayatollah Khomeini was a leader everyone could get behind, and he purged th...
[01:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:40] <exec> 08└─I am good friends with a nurse who worked in Saudi for a couple of years and according to her, the moment the plane to London is out of Saudi airspace, the women on board line up at the toilets to change out of their hijabs, and the men all start drinking. I don't think anyone really listens to pri...
[01:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:42] <exec> 08└─To paraphrase a Bill Hicks skit: "Follow your teachings or burn in hell for eternity? Well thank you God... for all those... options!" My original comment is true (not a "troll") and the reason we get the Pulse nightclub shooter and suicide bombers who drank. Abu Bakr: Every time I begin to pray, I...
[01:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:44] <exec> 08└─"... yet when they reach age 80 most of them are still sharp enough to plan a terrorist attack" Unfortunately for that unproven theory a terrorist attack tends to result in death. So if they hit 80 then they are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be a terrorist.
[01:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:46] <exec> 08└─it says "light" drinking, and does not correlate "more" with "smarter", nor does it explore what else was happening in the non-drinker diets and environments, only finding a correlation. Also worth noting that 10 to 14 drinks over a week is very different to 10 to 14 in one session. These findings s...
[01:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:07] <exec> 08└─Pump and dump is a far more profitable business model than actually making stuff.
[01:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:21] <exec> 08└─It's very interesting, but I don't think we should be so surprised that there is a lot of variety among exoplanets. One kind of planet I speculate could exist is a "heliopause planet". Where the solar wind stalls, could hydrogen accumulate? Of course, the heliopause is the surface of a giant sphere,...
[01:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:22] <exec> 08└─The migration happens because what is blasted away from the planet carries away angular momentum. The remaining planet moves closer to the star as a result.
[01:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:04] <exec> 08└─But then again, it's a difference between drilling a borehole and sinking a well [ecpgroup.com]. I'm not sure someone tried to sink a well at 170 km depth**, so I can't say we'll know all the problems need to be solved - temperature and level of pressure making rocks behaving like a viscous fluid [s...
[01:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:06] <exec> 08└─I always dig down until I hit Bedrock, then work my way up to 11 units above the bottom level of the map. That way you're one level above the large lava lakes on layer 10, and can mine freely for the good stuff - Diamonds, Redstone, Gold and Emeralds. Try to set up your mines underneath a Mountain b...
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[02:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Consumer Groups Urge Scrutiny of Google's Fitbit Buyout in Letter to Antitrust Regulators - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:32] <exec> 08└─I give up. All I can hope is the Kool-Aid is cold. I'm sure google already knows my favorite flavor.
[02:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:05] <exec> 08└─Fuck off, you Jewish Niggers. We hate you.
[02:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:07] <exec> 08└─There were studies that show that certain chemo drugs can kill senescent cells allowing the younger ones to proliferate in the space they take up. Perhaps the effect is similar. Alcohol kills cells. Less productive senescent cells are more susceptible to it. So it kills the less productive cells all...
[02:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:30] <exec> 08└─> ... BEVs are close to surpassing gasoline powered vehicles for most use cases. Except for: + First cost, battery electrics are still considerably more expensive than equal-sized & optioned gas cars. Remember someone has to buy it new, before the rest of us have a chance of getting one used. ...
[02:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:31] <exec> 08└─Tesla is way ahead of everyone else.
[02:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:33] <exec> 08└─Except previous bubbles weren't propped up by the government. Judging by the state after the forced shutdowns, and regime risk in trying to operate, record valuations are not something to happen naturally. This year, the "market' is only down by 3.5%, but when you take the stocks of the S&P500, equa...
[02:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:48] <exec> 08└─That doesn't make sense because the lost material shouldn't have proportionally more momentum than what is left behind. Planetary migrations in our own system are due to inter-planetary interactions, in particular when planetary orbits develop harmonic periods with other planets resulting in kinetic...
[02:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:49] <exec> 08└─The heliopause just means that the solar wind no longer dominates the interstellar wind. Outside* of a nebula the hydrogen density shouldn't be high enough for star formation to occur that close to the sun. *I'm not certain that it could occur that close inside a nebula either.
[02:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:33] <exec> 08└─Yup. May as well go for the earth's core, there's a lot of metal in that.
[02:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:34] <exec> 08└─It also needs energy. The premise of TFS was something about building infrastructure for renewable power. If it takes more energy to produce the materials to make the power plant than what the plant itself can produce during its lifetime then it becomes yet another boondoggle.
[02:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:37] <exec> 08└─It would be truly idiotic to attempt such a thing. If you were successful, you'd doom the planet to extinction. If you fail, huge volcano.
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[02:26:23] <exec> 08└─Weren't there a number of "unexplainable" incidents of that thing in the last few years? Coincidentally, not one case of misrouting through any other country.
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[03:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:15] <exec> 08└─Edge performs poorly anyway, and many of its functions are a pain to use Just let it go, and don't argue There is only one good browser [seamonkey-project.org]
[03:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:58] <exec> 08└─Just to stop joking https://www.tampabay.com [tampabay.com] As per patch vs actual smoke, cancer is not gonna have enough time to kill a smoker who started at 60 but smoking is way more enjoyable. Just don't do it earlier,...
[03:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tokolosh [585] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:00] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the US and marijuana.
[03:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tokolosh [585] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:02] <exec> 08└─I really love science and would like nothing more than to further our knowledge. How can one go about getting selected to participate in these studies?
[03:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:04] <exec> 08└─Geez dude, lighten up on the sauce. Usually you lead off with an interesting sentence or two before you get into the trolling.
[03:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:06] <exec> 08└─My country is going to have a referendum on pot at our next election. Guess who is funding the "no" campaign? Did you guess the Scientologists? Because it's the Scientologists. Weird.
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[03:23:08] <exec> 08└─n/t
[03:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:10] <exec> 08└─Who is this "we"?
[03:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:12] <exec> 08└─Those are gang members, not Jews.
[03:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:15] <exec> 08└─You'd have to move in with EF, the bartender for said study.
[03:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:17] <exec> 08└─Smoking was generally part of a ritual, but they also chewed and snorted tobacco, as well as making bonfires of it (to get rid of fleas etc.), eating it (to get rid of internal parasites), and a bunch of other stuff.
[03:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:19] <exec> 08└─Are the scientologists a large enough group to have political influence?
[03:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:44] <exec> 08└─1000km? If you're going across the country, 1000 /miles/ in a day is easy. I see fuel cells winning in the end for this reason. Freight haulers want electric motors in their trucks, but low range and long recharge are huge drawbacks. 1/4 of the battery capacity of a Tesla, with a fuel cell as the ge...
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[03:23:45] <exec> 08└─Tesla doesn't have to bribe the UAW (yet). All that cash adds up.
[03:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:02] <exec> 08└─You're assuming that the planet formed before the volitiles left. I'm claiming the opposite. There were a bunch of stuff circling the star that hadn't yet formed into condensed planets. So there was no strong planetary gravity. Think of asteroids. That close to the star the volitiles left quickly be...
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[03:24:49] <exec> 08└─It also needs energy. Plenty of that everywhere you look
[03:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Acquires Smart Glasses Maker North - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:10] <exec> 08└─I imagine when these things hit the market things will go south?
[03:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Fundraising for 2020H1 Successful! Thank You! - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:27] <exec> 08└─That MDC lives on in our digital space is a really cool indicator of what SN is for all of us.
[03:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:19] <exec> 08└─When the parents of the Boomers were still racing dinosaurs around the time square, they already knew about the 85th percentile. Real engineers - yes, traffic engineers are a thing - use the 85th percentile. Police departments desperate for revenues adjust that 85th percentile down to about the 60th...
[03:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Small ISPs “Stunned” by FCC Move to Ban Huawei/ZTE Gear During Pandemic - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:01] <exec> 08└─Authoritarian regimes are nobody's friend, not even to themselves, because authoritarianism is ultimately self destructive. While there have been rare leaders such as Hannibal of Carthage, they never last very long and are always replaced by someone worse, often through murder. Democracies select fo...
[03:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Small ISPs “Stunned” by FCC Move to Ban Huawei/ZTE Gear During Pandemic - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:03] <exec> 08└─I cared long before Trump, but boycotting China has long been difficult. It often comes down to 'buy some item made in China, buy it 'made locally' from Chinese sources (read: Chinese made label locally applied to Chinese made product) or do without. And that is before we get into crooked importers...
[03:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Small ISPs “Stunned” by FCC Move to Ban Huawei/ZTE Gear During Pandemic - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:05] <exec> 08└─If backdoors that the NSA could exploit do exist it is less likely the U.S. would ban these routers since the government would consider the fact that they can exploit them a good thing.
[03:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Vocal Minority [2765] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Ripple20' Bugs Impact Hundreds of Millions of Connected Devices - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:02] <exec> 08└─So slavery never went away, it just changed to wage slavery?
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[04:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:24] <exec> 08└─Also worth noting, Edge Chromium will be the default browser in the Fall 2020 Windows 10 release. Anecdotally, I've helped two of my customers deploy this. The killer feature is IE mode. This lets the admins specify sites that require Internet Explorer in the Enterprise mode site list, and Edge chro...
[04:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:26] <exec> 08└─Anybody noticing a lot of websites breaking in Firefox recently, like past three weeks? Did Micros~1 win the browser war at last by embracing and extending Chromium? What does the Book of Mozilla say about these matters?
[04:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:20] <exec> 08└─Persians I know are more Rita Panahi
[04:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:48] <exec> 08└─Who remembered the .com bubble... May be Tesla is viable but to be more viable or valuable than Toyota today is nuts Market is economy on short time scale can be totally illogical... May be a shed is more valuable in Beverly hills than in Louisiana...but a shed is a shed in case of car companies ......
[04:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:07] <exec> 08└─This type of planet has been hypothetical. It also seems to have more mass than the supposed mass of Jupiter's core.
[04:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:08] <exec> 08└─That doesn't make sense because the lost material shouldn't have proportionally more momentum than what is left behind.
[04:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:10] <exec> 08└─You're assuming that the planet formed before the volitiles left.
[04:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:58] <exec> 08└─scientists have discovered previously unrecognized structural lines 100 miles or more down in the earth that appear to signal the locations of giant deposits of copper, lead, zinc and other vital metals
[04:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:00] <exec> 08└─I'd be willing the bet that most anything that melts during reentry would immediately be blown off the surface by the high airspeed, and either be incinerated in the fireball, or condense and rain down across half a continent. Besides, the whole point of refining is to separate out the heavy base me...
[04:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:02] <exec> 08└─The trouble is the temperature. 1500F is a nontrivial materials science problem. That's the temperature where you forge iron, and it's difficult even for tungsten carbide in a nonreducing environment.
[04:25:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Google Acquires Smart Glasses Maker North - 463 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:12] <exec> 08└─If consumer market for smart glasses heats up, then CCTV surveillance will be a privacy heaven by comparison. Just imagine the flood of requests for "maybe witnessing" video-clips coming from law enforcement 'because investigations'; FBI being pissed on Apple for not unlocking a phone?... bah, that'...
[04:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:34] <exec> 08└─Tesla's argument, if you believe it, is that the Autopilot+driver combination is already safer than a driver alone. I don't have enough data for an informed opinion on that, but it doesn't seem implausible.
[04:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Small ISPs “Stunned” by FCC Move to Ban Huawei/ZTE Gear During Pandemic - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:19] <exec> 08└─I remember when they kept saying that Russia was interfering with the elections. The big media narrative kept changing. At one time it was that they were doing it through propaganda. Counter argument to that is if Russia exercises their free speech and such speech does affect the opinions of voters...
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[05:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:31] <exec> 08└─Prepare to get serviced. We get "serviced" by Microsoft regularly.
[05:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Consumer Groups Urge Scrutiny of Google's Fitbit Buyout in Letter to Antitrust Regulators - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:40] <exec> 08└─It wasn't Kool Aid. It was Flavor Aid, a Kool Aid knock off.
[05:23:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:03] <exec> 08└─That's part of the problem with Islam. Few muslims follow the teachings closely...
[05:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 2801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:28] <exec> 08└─First let's consider another series of studies, pretty similar to this one, that have recently been 'debunked'. There were a wide array of studies that showed that drinking a small amount was associated with better health outcomes on average. However what a recent study showed is that these studies...
[05:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:29] <exec> 08└─Come to think of it further perhaps some people who never drank have never done so exactly because they already have health problems and they are afraid that alcohol could make their health problems even worse. That alone can bias your results. Thanks for this post. Insightful.
[05:23:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03acid andy [1683] 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:46] <exec> 08└─I think it's something Trump has in his covfefe.
[05:23:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 303 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:49] <exec> 08└─From 2019 GM Tesla Production 7,718,000 vehicles 367,500 vehicles Revenue 137.237 billion 24.578 billion Net income 6.732 billion −862 million Assets 228.037 billion 34.309 billion...
[05:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:59] <exec> 08└─Tesla mostly won't sell repair parts. I don't understand why resale isn't terrible as a result. Insurance costs are inflated too. I guess they've managed the status symbol marketing well enough and that works despite the financial disincentives.
[05:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Disney Research Neural Face-Swapping Technique Can Provide Photorealistic, High-Resolution Video - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:52] <exec> 08└─how many times do I have to tell me that?
[05:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03YttriumOxide [1165] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Quantum Fluctuations Can Jiggle Objects on the Human Scale - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:18] <exec> 08└─I tend to come here from the daily newsletter which strips formatting... I was a little confused and incredulous when I read that the fluctuations can kick the mirrors "10-20 meters"... that would be concerning!
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[06:22:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 533 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:22] <exec> 08└─Also worth noting, Edge Chromium will be the default browser in the Fall 2020 Windows 10 release. Anecdotally, I've helped two of my customers deploy this. The killer feature is IE mode. This lets the admins specify sites that require Internet Explorer in the Enterprise mode site list, and Edge chro...
[06:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:26] <exec> 08└─It's because a whole generation of idiot web coders think a monoculture is a good thing and coding to standards is stupid. They just check if you're using chrome and if not, assume you're a stupid idiot who doesn't deserve to use their website. Their loss.
[06:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:28] <exec> 08└─That and/or their bosses are telling them to do it that way. And probably because everyone wants to be in the "in" crowd, and doing all the tricky constructs with the world's most popular browser. I'm with you- it's stupid. Why do we even have w3c?
[06:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Disney Research Neural Face-Swapping Technique Can Provide Photorealistic, High-Resolution Video - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:45] <exec> 08└─...megapixel resolution final results according, to the researchers.
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[07:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:11] <exec> 08└─...French police had discovered some of EncroChat's servers were located in the country..."technical device"...to access the messages
[07:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:12] <exec> 08└─You have to remember that the average human win consider E2E2E encryption to be better than E2E encryption, because it's a longer acronym. And yes, I just invented the concept, but E2E2E is encrypted to the server, where it becomes plaintext, and then encrypted as its sent out to the reciepient - tw...
[07:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:15] <exec> 08└─This article [vice.com] suggests that the clients were compromised: This wiping problem wasn't user error though. The Encrochat associate told Motherboard they found malware on the device.
[07:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:22] <exec> 08└─If you're smart and not subject to cognitive decline, the older you get the more you realize how rotten it's all going. So you drink.
[07:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:00] <exec> 08└─Why is this - in your opinion - garbage? It is a technological challenge that has generated an interesting discussion. It is not April 1st, and this story is based upon a reputable source, raises interesting questions and is being discussed sensibly with a good balance of humour from time to time....
[07:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:02] <exec> 08└─Extending that another order of magnitude is well into "technology indistinguishable from magic" territory.
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[08:21:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:57] <exec> 08└─And for encryption to work, you don't use it more than once.
[08:21:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:59] <exec> 08└─I have a feeling the fuzz may not have broken any encryption, or wiretapped anything. Most police raids usually come from plain old police work - i.e. grilling suspects, turning them around to infiltrate the network.. that sort of thing. The weak point in any encrypted chat network is the human endp...
[08:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:13] <exec> 08└─That update happened this week here already, I saw it on several systems. Of course with a forced reboot into a non responsive state where one had to answer questions first, before the system would be started completely. That browser update is even being pushed as required on Windows 7. The blue scr...
[08:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:51] <exec> 08└─If you really want to clear out some desert, resurrect the real Project Orion. It would not only clear the take-off site for future landings you could deliver an entire asteroid mining facility to the Belt in one go.
[08:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:24] <exec> 08└─If you don't finance ISIS you finance the ndrangheta which are even more dangerous, so even ethical reasons are against the quite unreasonable act of popping pills from unknown producers and unknown potential side effects and paying for them a lot.
[08:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:25] <exec> 08└─I would advocate for tax breaks to employers who employ locals and for people who have the business near home. I would advocate for tax hikes for goods produced and sourced less near than is necessary.
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[09:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:13] <exec> 08└─They say 'malware', but from the technical description of the setup it looks a lot more like the authorities managed to leverage the phones system update mechanism by pretending to be the legitimate servers located within their juristriction and pushing out said 'malware' as legitimate looking syste...
[09:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:24] <exec> 08└─Kind of like the mafia saying - I've got a deal you can't refuse.
[09:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:26] <exec> 08└─Or does that entirely depend on what the corp paying for the "study" is selling? That apart, juice drinking is a sure-fire way to unnoticeably load up a LOT of sugar; typical concentrations are around 10% - drink one liter, get 100 g of carbs. You get fat as a pig in no time from that kind of "good,...
[09:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:08] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I searched arxiv, I didn't know about eartharxiv...
[09:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:43] <exec> 08└─They're working on it:) https://youtu.be [youtu.be]
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[10:22:27] <exec> 08└─The stupid part of these criminals were that they all flocked to the same messaging system (without understanding how it works), for ALL their message exchange. People expect encryption during communication to easy, but this shows there are many levels where things could go wrong. A few weeks back t...
[10:23:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:42] <exec> 08└─So why haven't they all sacrificed themselves yet? Right...
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[11:21:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:21:55] <exec> 08└─the only thing that has to be tracked is ensuring the contract has a clause covering third-party inclusion liability exemption. For 99% of commercial projects, you are now done.
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[11:22:27] <exec> 08└─So what? Which sites have required MSIE at any point since 1999?
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[12:22:14] <exec> 08└─Don't use external libraries. Seriously, avoid them whenever possible. For one application, I used little, stand-alone library published by Google. Then came an update, and the little library pulled in a big library, which pulled in 5 or 6 more dependencies. Who knows what all that code did, who kno...
[12:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:16] <exec> 08└─A liability exclusion is great and all, but it doesn't help your hacked customers, nor does it help your reputation. Better to just avoid the problem by not using external libraries, if you can possibly avoid them.
[12:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:18] <exec> 08└─The advocate is stating something that should be trivially and painfully obvious to anybody in the field. And you can bet that it's not the low-level engineers who are the roadblock to testing the sub-sub-dependencies (well, not usually). But it sure is a lot of work to do it, because they're so man...
[12:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:20] <exec> 08└─"Write your own solution." That is a two edged sword. The good news is that yours is smaller so less chance for bugs. The bad news is only one set of eyes looking for the bugs. Maybe a better solution is to encourage small, common, well tested libraries. That would provide your ans...
[12:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:22] <exec> 08└─As always, a mixture of opinions is ideal. Everyone writing their own means slower development, less eyes, less maintainability. Everyone collaborating on one project brings a monoculture and a single point of failure.
[12:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03zoward [4734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:24] <exec> 08└─I can't help feeling like this will get worse with snaps and flatpaks. I guess the $64 question will be: will the maintainers of all those snaps and flatpaks be better about keeping dependencies up to date than the distro itself? In some cases, yes. In many other cases .... well, I think I'll stick...
[12:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:27] <exec> 08└─At least snaps and flatpacks won't bring in bugs with automatic updates of their dependencies. We validate that our products meet our requirements. This necessarily has the giant hole of "can't prove a negative," but when we do security / pen testing if we find a vulnerability it tends to stay in th...
[12:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:45] <exec> 08└─"Criminal chat network" or just a "secure chat network"*? *Temporarily secure, or supposedly secure.
[12:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:23:01] <exec> 08└─Wasn't supposed to even have updates still, but for some reason I suddenly had Edge installed automagically. In the upper right corner was a really faint 'X' to stop the auto config instead of answering questions. Then in the add/remove programs removal worked. Then it asked for user comments on the...
[12:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:24:03] <exec> 08└─"Iran sounds interesting." Religion and drinking seem to have such a truce in many places. Perhaps this is common ground among reasonable folks in a world of otherwise. Old classics: In the South, how do you tell the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist? The bootlegger comes to the fro...
[12:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:47] <exec> 08└─I'd be willing the bet that most anything that melts during reentry would immediately be blown off the surface by the high airspeed
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[13:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:21] <exec> 08└─I wonder the same about desktop webapps that bundle their own web runtime. But with Android, Chrome OS and Edge OS (*Windows 10) now shipping Chromium with regular security updates handled by the Chrome team, perhaps frameworks such as Electron will evolve to become lighter-weight by calling a FFI t...
[13:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:22] <exec> 08└─Testing things like that is a literally endless task, because the libraries will be updated, at a schedule that you don't control. If you don't take the updates, you risk unpatched vulnerabilities. If you do take the updates, you will be constantly testing and re-testing. As new features are adding...
[13:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 1398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:24] <exec> 08└─Some of it is definitely self inflicted. It's certainly possible to have too many dependencies, but most projects have mostly dependencies they need. If you didn't need the dependency, there's probably no code path that invokes it, so its bugs likely don't matter. It's bloat, but not dangerous. Doin...
[13:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:27] <exec> 08└─That's why djb writes all of his own library routines, he replaces whatever the system provides with djb-created minimalist secure ones. Downside is that you then get a slightly different djbmemcpy() and djbprintf() in every bit of code of his that you use.
[13:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:29] <exec> 08└─perhaps frameworks such as Electron will evolve to become lighter-weight
[13:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Undulating Their Bodies Keeps Flying Snakes From Tumbling Out of Control - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:36] <exec> 08└─There's a phrase you rarely hear used outside of describing Washington DC.
[13:22:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 454 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:48] <exec> 08└─I have a feeling the fuzz may not have broken any encryption, or wiretapped anything. Most police raids usually come from plain old police work - i.e. grilling suspects, turning them around to infiltrate the network.. that sort of thing. The weak point in any encrypted chat network is the human endp...
[13:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:53] <exec> 08└─Cops got malware on the phones which allowed them to log keystrokes, thereby getting data before it was encrypted. https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[13:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:55] <exec> 08└─You forgot the oblig: https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
[13:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:57] <exec> 08└─The crypto is often not the weakest link. I pretty much trust Signal, but Signal has an auto-update mechanism. If an adversary compromised the signal code signing key, they'd be able to provide an update and install a compromised version on everyone's machine. That's probably tricky with Signal, bec...
[13:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:59] <exec> 08└─Congratulations, you just invented SMTP over TLS etc. Email and mail relay servers are the biggest security hole in the world at the moment.
[13:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:15] <exec> 08└─This is Not the education you are looking for.
[13:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:16] <exec> 08└─Windows pushing a program onto your computer hidden as an update? The only thing that could be worse was if it was Inertnet Exploder.
[13:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:19] <exec> 08└─She also told me that the Islamic government would be overthrown tomorrow if they really made an effort to get rid of booze, and they know it.
[13:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:20] <exec> 08└─That's not terribly surprising, you saw the same sort of thing in the US during prohibition. I've heard the same thing about Saudi Arabia, there's definitely access, it's just that if you get caught by the authorities, the consequences are severe. I don't personally mind that they continue to study...
[13:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:05] <exec> 08└─The taller your whole stack of pipes is, the greater amount of pressure on the joints, and the tip of the drill bit. That 20k foot well had one of the gnarliest SOBs I'd ever seen. Engineers rambled on about the strength of the tips, etc. Built for extreme pressures, heat, and a high enough hardness...
[13:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:07] <exec> 08└─The easier way would be for Von Neumann machines to take the Earth apart from the surface on down. It'd get easier as more mass is orbited. It'd take a lot of licks to get to the center of this pop, but a Von Neumann swarm has a lot of tongues. If you were successful, you'd doom the planet to extinc...
[13:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:09] <exec> 08└─I'm sure it helps that they come with built-in ablative heat shielding. Phase transitions consume an enormous amount of energy - as one example it takes almost as much energy to melt ice without heating it (ice at 0C-> water at 0C = 79cal/g), as to heat the resulting water 100C to the edge of boilin...
[13:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03hubie [1068] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:11] <exec> 08└─Do you just keep digging a 1x1 down? What do you do if you hit a cavern? Seal it up and find a way around it and keep going down?
[13:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Quantum Fluctuations Can Jiggle Objects on the Human Scale - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:21] <exec> 08└─that's what she said.
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[14:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:46] <exec> 08└─The real problem is "dynamic linking" where the particular library that you are using can be updated after you write the code. No language that does that can safely use external libraries. This is one of my problems with go and rust...those languages are designed to be dependent on the net. If you'r...
[14:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:47] <exec> 08└─You are assuming that the updates are improvements. Sometimes, though, they can be malicious. And malicious or not they can introduce *new* bugs, that weren't in the prior version. (As well as bloat.) Every update need to go through the same analysis as the original library to ensure that it doesn't...
[14:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:50] <exec> 08└─I'm not into coding anymore, so please correct me if I'm incorrect: Can't programs require a certain version of a library? ie: Will work with LibME > 5.4.*, 5.5? Wouldn't that be better than having it install in a FlatPack 5.4.3? (So that if 5.4.4 comes out, the system can replace 5.4.3 and the appl...
[14:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:52] <exec> 08└─Of the projects they examined, what percent of the entire code base was made up of code from indirect dependencies? Means something very different if 10% of the codebase contained 75% of the bugs, as opposed to 80% of the codebase contained 75% of the bugs.
[14:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:34] <exec> 08└─In the past Microsoft already had to pay fines in the order of half a billion dollars to the EU, exactly for that.
[14:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:40] <exec> 08└─That shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody. The main reason why alcohol being drunk in moderation appears to have positive effects is because the studies frequently neglect to account for the fact that the non-drinking population has a significant portion of individuals with health problems, liver...
[14:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:41] <exec> 08└─Definitely and even then, if you follow these things the research goes back and forth over it. Really, a few drinks now and then is unlikely to cause much damage, but alcohol is poison and you're putting additional stress on the organs that are intended to filter toxins out of your body when you do...
[14:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:43] <exec> 08└─See Stargate with the Ori. I'm with O'Neill on this topic.
[14:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:45] <exec> 08└─My in-laws are Persian and particularly because they're Zoroastrians rather than Muslims, they really do not like what the Ayatollah has done to the country. My wife regularly suggests that she wants the US to change the regime. I keep reminding her that the Ayatollah is there in large part because...
[14:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:14] <exec> 08└─i wish i could buy a tesla where i live. unfortunatly the local government treasury (finance department) is heavly invested in fossile fuels since they still own half of all shares of the "oil business". thus there is little incentive to "free the consumers" from oil and gas dependancy. i go shoppin...
[14:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Possible Chthonian Exoplanet Discovered (Giant Rocky Planet) - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:36] <exec> 08└─True, but this isn't a Jupiter, this one's rocky. So it needs a different origin. It's heavy enough that it would have held onto lots of the volatiles unless they left before the planet formed.
[14:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 1328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:37] <exec> 08└─>Of course, its hard to really say how much it would cost to cast a strangely shaped ingot that looks and weighs as much as a capsule, in space, and slap a light and cheap retrorocket and guidance package on it. That's the ticket. Virtually all the cost in a Dragon mission is in the launch and vehic...
[14:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:38] <exec> 08└─I'm sure the iron, and probably nickle and other base metals would be left in space. What you'd send to Earth are the valuable metals you extract while purifying the iron, which will be largely useless in space until industrial infrastructure becomes far more sophisticated. You can't use launch cost...
[14:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:41] <exec> 08└─> If it takes a while to transport a drill bit down, then why not transport numerous bits down so that you have a pool of bits to use when the current one fails? Where are you going to put them? The hole is the same size as the drill bit, and to use a new bit you must first remove the old bit. I sup...
[14:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Geologists Identify Deep-Earth Structures that May Signal Hidden Metal Lodes - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:43] <exec> 08└─>But in half a billion to billion years, the Earth is doomed anyway. Hardly. It'd be far easier to move the Earth than mine it away - we even have a convenient gravitational tugboat already handy in the moon, we just need to install some engines and we can tow the Earth around to keep it in a nice t...
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[15:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 1201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:31] <exec> 08└─What generally happens is the dependencies are stated like you say: 5.4 or greater. So, 5.6 comes out and has a regression in it, the dependency tree picks up 5.6 and accepts it because it's greater than 5.4, boom: your app now has the regression. It's all wonderful theory that newer software is bet...
[15:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:32] <exec> 08└─Absolutely agree. This is a difficult problem. Library trees are great for fast top-level code development and lots of great functionality, but my fear: since they're mostly used as run-time scripts, even if they're fully debugged and clean today, tomorrow someone might make a change, inadvertently...
[15:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, exactly, and I commented on this above. My thought was to download the needed library code and host it yourself, if licensing allows.
[15:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:37] <exec> 08└─Amazingly, TFA answers your questions- with pretty pictures too! :)
[15:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:39] <exec> 08└─I imagine every indirect dependency of one project is going to be a direct dependency of an intermediate project, so I find their statement a bit strange. TFA is clearly focused on web technologies so I suppose the projects they're interested in are mainly websites and web applications. It's directe...
[15:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:41] <exec> 08└─Rust does not update library versions for a project unless you foolishly use wildcards in your library version numbers. And even then, once you've built it once on that box you have to explicitly tell it to update the libraries every time you want to. This still doesn't protect you from any system-w...
[15:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:23] <exec> 08└─Enterprise Mode for Internet Explorer is utter crap. I have to support it. It sometimes works, the cache doesn't always refresh, and when you are talking about tens of thousands of machines out of date still using n-1 or n-5 or n-10 version of the xml.. it can really make your day as an admin suck....
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[16:22:47] <exec> 08└─Cool... so, what was the answer?
[16:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:48] <exec> 08└─All of the above assumes you're A) Capable of writing every library you need without adding your own bugs or huge performance degradations and B) Have the time to do so. I dunno about you but I'm just not interested in reading up enough to competently write my own Vulkan, H.265, NVIDIA driver, or PC...
[16:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:51] <exec> 08└─IDK, we'll have to ask ikanreed.
[16:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:53] <exec> 08└─Windows
[16:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03zoward [4734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:55] <exec> 08└─These are all good points. I wonder how many actual infections are due to out of date libraries vs. up-to-date with regression bugs?
[16:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:57] <exec> 08└─We develop with "latest" then lock down our system image before validation. It's a bummer when our locked down image ends up needing updating, and total revalidation, but... we don't have a lot of network exposed code - yet, that's coming in the near future and I wonder how our validation model will...
[16:23:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 252 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:18] <exec> 08└─Cops got malware on the phones which allowed them to log keystrokes, thereby getting data before it was encrypted. https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[16:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:48] <exec> 08└─Given the way they charge money to advance in the church, they're quite rich for their size, which amplifies their influence. Not to mention they've got a fair number of high-status people enmeshed in their ranks. Celebrities seem atypically vulnerable to their balderdash for some reason.
[16:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03cosurgi [272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:49] <exec> 08└─I’m sorry, that claim is just false. You only need to check how much research funding was given from the alcohol industry. They pay billions to researches so that they find just one positive effect of drinking. Then they make outrageous claims about how healthy drinking is. Then even skew the rese...
[16:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:20] <exec> 08└─On range, Teslas are far ahead of all the others. Roughly 330 miles for the long range Tesla model 3, vs, at the most optimistic, 250 miles for the best BYD vehicles. There is a very new entrant, the Xpeng P7, which can have a range of up to 440 miles. Of course range isn't the only thing that matte...
[16:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 2513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:21] <exec> 08└─The ICE manufacturers literally make multiple orders of magnitude more cars every year than Tesla can even dream of at the moment. They're doing that for a reason - in 15-20 years, most countries have announced that ICE cars won't be able to be manufactured any more. So they're making the most of th...
[16:28:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Tesla Driver Blames Autopilot for Crash, Faces Negligent Driving Charge - 4419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:00] <exec> 08└─I'm afraid you don't know me at all well. I would advocate for a far stricter test. I would advocate for an annual test (when your car is being tested, you should be taken out on a driving test). I would advocate for every failure requiring a pass to counteract it (so if you fail ten times, you need...
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[17:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Piperidinium Salt Stabilizes Efficient Metal-Halide Perovskite Solar Cells - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:19] <exec> 08└─Twelve hundred hours is only about a hundred days, so these would have a half-life of a year or two? I think we need an order of magnitude improvement for commercial viability.
[17:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:56] <exec> 08└─By "network exposed code", do you mean pulling in 3rd-party libraries? If so, show mgt. TFA. And again, my advice would be to use libraries that you can copy in. Or code your own, but that gets into the big controversy over "are APIs patentable / copyrightable"??
[17:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:57] <exec> 08└─This is why I'm very wary of package managers for languages, especially in a professional setting. The only one that seems to do a decent job is Rust's cargo, because it builds from source, but even that's not foolproof or secure. That said, Python's pip is definitely easy, and sometimes that's all...
[17:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft to Auto Upgrade Some Business and Education PCs to Chromium Edge in August - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:43] <exec> 08└─It's almost entirely intranet shit. A public facing website that requires IE is suicide, since no one uses IE anymore. However, in a corporate environment, where plans to modernize have likely failed at least once, there are still plenty of ancient internal sites with 20 year old ActiveX components...
[17:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:54] <exec> 08└─Liberal-apologist
[17:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:56] <exec> 08└─That's not really a surprise, when you live in a country where the state enforces religious practices with severe punishment for those violating them. Many of those folks wouldn't be Muslim at all or would be a member of a more liberal sect if the state wasn't literally enforcing the restrictions.
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[18:22:17] <exec> 08└─Equus Ferus Ardernus [newshub.co.nz] for example.
[18:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:18] <exec> 08└─This is the best headline I've seen on the internet all day. My Soylent News subscription money was indeed money well-spent.
[18:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:20] <exec> 08└─I'm not even going to read the story, because there's no way it could possibly live up to the headline.
[18:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dish Buys Prepaid Carrier Boost Mobile for $1.4 Billion - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:28] <exec> 08└─"It positions us well as we continue to build out the first virtualized, standalone 5G network in America."
[18:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:14] <exec> 08└─The bad news is only one set of eyes looking for the bugs.
[18:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:15] <exec> 08└─Management is pretty dialed in, they typically know about vulnerabilities that show up here a few weeks or more before the story drops on Soylent. The real battle is: why do we need it? I saw a "meme" the other day that really fits well: 10 My dishwasher failed to update. 20 Why did your dishwasher...
[18:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopdevil [3356] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:17] <exec> 08└─A vulnerability in a 3rd tier dependency does not immediately equate to a vulnerability in the application (or 2nd tier dependency for that matter). If you go into the analysis with that mindset, naturally you will find that a single vuln in a core library *may* affect many projects, but this is a m...
[18:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:19] <exec> 08└─Because of this all open source is being weeded out from my very big financial employer. However, it is not all. There are security regulations and my boss has a monthly chat with Federal Reserve about them. Whatever they say we do. The rest we can't care - it's too much already - and we don't.
[18:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:22] <exec> 08└─Yeah, this. It's been a while since I've looked into these things, but it seems like everybody's C library has its own way to handle strings to make up for C's issues. I bet there are hundreds of string libraries running on my machine, all accomplishing the same thing in subtly different ways. Peopl...
[18:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:51] <exec> 08└─we'll see. karma's a bitch.
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[19:22:17] <exec> 08└─The part of that drawing that is inappropriate, is, she is sitting astride the horse, and that's all. Someone is holding the reins, leading the horse. It implies that she's just some helpless bitch, dependent on someone, probably a man, to show her where to go, and how to get there. Go on, look at...
[19:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:18] <exec> 08└─Well, I screwed that up - I meant to reply to this post, and instead, replied to TFS. Scroll down for my evaluation of that image.
[19:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:20] <exec> 08└─Well, I screwed that up - I meant to reply to this post,
[19:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:23] <exec> 08└─Nah, the real PC reading for the takedown is that the horse isn't kneeling on its knee in support of the kniggers.
[19:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:19] <exec> 08└─And to remote brick dishwasher if A) "unauthorized repair" or B) now deprecated / "unsupported".
[19:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:20] <exec> 08└─All good points. I broke the rules and read TFA, and my comments in this discussion, and maybe bradley13's too, are in context of the problem areas: ftfa: security bugs were prevalent in JavaScript, Ruby, and Java
[19:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:22] <exec> 08└─Because of this all open source is being weeded out from my very big financial employer.
[19:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:25] <exec> 08└─Their main goal is fighting Copyleft and that's because Snyk and Blackduck [techrights.org] have close ties to M$
[19:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:27] <exec> 08└─This is why I'm very wary of package managers for languages, especially in a professional setting.
[19:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:54] <exec> 08└─They're just sitting on the sidelines making *real* money hand-over-fist, with almost no debt, waiting for the consumers to start accepting them.
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[20:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:29] <exec> 08└─Make the whole car available on demand. One little call (Hey, Beemer!), and it will pull up to your door
[20:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03SemperOSS [5072] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:30] <exec> 08└─Drat, my left turn subscription ran out in the middle of Times Square!
[20:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:33] <exec> 08└─A $5 toggle switch and some wire will get your heated seat back.
[20:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03WizardFusion [498] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:35] <exec> 08└─Yeap, it will be hacked in a couple of minutes
[20:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:37] <exec> 08└─Indicators will not be a popular service.
[20:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:51] <exec> 08└─Did you know they also found fossilized douches in New Zealand? And, they look just like you. You haven't evolved much in the past million years.
[20:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Piperidinium Salt Stabilizes Efficient Metal-Halide Perovskite Solar Cells - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:05] <exec> 08└─Good question, and is the degradation exponential or linear? Of course, when I went to view the journal article it wanted me to log in so I can't really answer any of our questions :(
[20:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:54] <exec> 08└─Oh bullshit. When counting mobile devices, their market share is down around 30% and that's not enough to command monopoly rents. They've lost the server market, like they lost the phone market, if Netcraft is any indicator. It shows around 4.5% and declining. They're betting what's left of their fa...
[20:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:56] <exec> 08└─Where do they get their info on vulns?
[20:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds Arrested as 'EncroChat' Crime Chat Network Cracked - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:22] <exec> 08└─The stupid part of these criminals were that they all flocked to the same messaging system (without understanding how it works)
[20:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Light Drinking May Protect Brain Function - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:55] <exec> 08└─Photons are tasteless.
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[21:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:20] <exec> 08└─In reality, the 12-month subscription discount will be cheaper then the reconnection fee. So personally, I'm going with the 12-month subscription. Ooooh, further discount for signing up a multi years contract too~ Hey, bundle discount with the foldable back seat on demand!
[21:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:21] <exec> 08└─Or get rid of the asshole that drives a BMW. Perhaps that should be a 3rd party option?
[21:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:23] <exec> 08└─Get rid of BMWs. Time to carpet bomb Germany again.
[21:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:25] <exec> 08└─2020: pay 15$/month to enable heated seats in siberia 2030: pay 15000$/month to disable heated seats in kuwait
[21:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:28] <exec> 08└─So you won't own the hardware you bought ? You cannot modify it i am sure ... You buy a piece of hardware...but the company control some of it.
[21:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:30] <exec> 08└─Proprietary BMW blinken fluid is expensive.
[21:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:32] <exec> 08└─Paying to use a device that you already actually have on a subscription basis? This is just so incredibly dumb. Totally brain dead retarded. Mindless and idiotic..... consumertards will absolutely love this! Let me guess, it's controlled by a stupid toy cell phone? (it does say options are added by...
[21:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:34] <exec> 08└─Was he warning us about proprietary software, Millennials or both?
[21:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:36] <exec> 08└─Wait. Isn't this already a "feature" in the car? Not really a BWM person but it's standard in most newer model of any brand isn't it? It's not exactly a luxury -- unless you consider a car to be a luxury. What is next? I have to pay for using the different gears or turning the wheel or blinkers or ....
[21:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:39] <exec> 08└─This is a despicable move that so many companies are following, but this will make a side market for people who want to actually own their hardware. The phone space is seeing some viable competitors coming in, and I can totally see some after market rebuilds for used vehicles or even a few companies...
[21:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:41] <exec> 08└─I hear he also warned us in 1976 that a giulietta from the 50s handled better than a bmw 3.0 csi.
[21:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:43] <exec> 08└─Absolutely not. And it is even less likely (which is actually an accomplishment) the second they start this.
[21:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:58] <exec> 08└─"...just some helpless bitch, dependent on someone..." Could be worse. Some folks are led by Putin's patsy. "...stupid bitch with teats..." FTFA: "...more closely related to boobies..."
[21:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:04] <exec> 08└─I believe it's the committee on vulnerability awareness... a loose collection of people who make it their business to know these things and disseminate the information throughout the organization. For committee members to willingly reveal their sources would require a massive shift in their job secu...
[21:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:05] <exec> 08└─It's obvious because it's completely missing basic graph theory. The cause of 75% (or some similarly large number) of anything in software is going to be in indirect dependencies. If there's a bug in my program, it affects my program. If there's a bug in a library that things use directly, it affect...
[21:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:07] <exec> 08└─Bad news, snaps aggresively autoupdate. It is causing some ruckus in Ubuntu, because they are pushing more and more software via snaps, instead of .debs. https://news.ycombinator.com [ycombinator.com]
[21:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:09] <exec> 08└─Vulnerabilities are typically due to out-of-date libraries. Other kinds of bugs are more common as a result of updating but not testing the library. There was a paper at EuroS&P this year that did an analysis of upgrading the libraries bundled with a load of popular Android apps to the latest versio...
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[22:22:33] <exec> 08└─Paying to use a device that you already actually have on a subscription basis? This is just so incredibly dumb. Totally brain dead retarded. Mindless and idiotic..... consumertards will absolutely love this! Let me guess, it's controlled by a stupid toy cell phone? (it does say options are added by...
[22:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:39] <exec> 08└─They have to pay their employees ever since Jewish slave labor was banned.
[22:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:41] <exec> 08└─It is part of a bundle option. I think I have used mine like once or twice when I remember it exists.
[22:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:44] <exec> 08└─BMW having better security that Cisco is a laughable thought. These things are going to be hacked so fast. This is going to create a very interesting side market for the folks that "just want their car to work." With geniuses like this I can't wait to see the "security" feature where these will on...
[22:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:46] <exec> 08└─Most car manufacturers are moving to fully electronic displays for dashboards and controls - VW brands (Bentley, Audi [digitaltrends.com], VW, Skoda. Ducati.. usw usw), Mercedes, Honda.. they are all at it [autobytel.com] These are not simple 'bypass with a toggle switch' systems - CANBUS, chips in...
[22:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:48] <exec> 08└─You know what can't be hacked, though, is an explanation to your passengers why you bought a 60K car only to have a nigger-rigged Chinese fire-drill of a wire harness + toggle switch dangling from below your dash like you just hotwired the car and stole it.
[22:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:50] <exec> 08└─Subscription Fleshlight for the guys? 10 points orgasms for every old person?
[22:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dish Buys Prepaid Carrier Boost Mobile for $1.4 Billion - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:12] <exec> 08└─Virtual 5G causes virtual COVID.
[22:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:16] <exec> 08└─Fascinating, and too bad. Thanks for the reply; honestly appreciate it.
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[23:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:11] <exec> 08└─These spacecraft are just as safe as Elon's autonomous cars. Just hope there are no space police cars for them to smash into at full speed.
[23:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 751 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:12] <exec> 08└─I'm the kind of guy that still likes to turn the knob when I change the volume. I can't tell you how many times I wanted the volume at exactly 7 1/8th of a turn, but the system locked me down to only being able to go to 7 or 7.5. -grin- In all seriousness, at some point one would think that in long...
[23:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:15] <exec> 08└─There should be only two buttons, "Up" and "Down". For the impatient, we can put the "Close Door" button also. For troubleshooting, under the monitor is a reset button, and as always, the power cord in case all else fails.
[23:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:17] <exec> 08└─A spacecraft failure shouldn't set back the study of a solar system object by 5, 10, 20, 50 years. We should be sending out hundreds or thousands of autonomous spacecraft every year. Lowering launch costs will help make that happen.
[23:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:19] <exec> 08└─Maybe. I kinda sorta expect spacecraft to do a lot of crap for the "drivers". You shouldn't be expected to do a space walk to align some thruster just like you want it. On the other hand - if you decide that you really DO WANT to make that spacewalk to tweak the thrusters, the software and crap shou...
[23:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:21] <exec> 08└─docking as a service [soylentnews.org] subscription should be paid before departure, to ensure you can dock when you arrive... proof of purchase/receipt may be requested on arrival.
[23:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:23] <exec> 08└─Trust Boeing to deliver the crispy astronauts [npr.org] we crave.
[23:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:25] <exec> 08└─In all seriousness, all normal operations should be totally automated. Just wait for the green light to come on. Humans should only step in if there is a malfunction, and then manual repair and control should be possible. The ship will always need an engineer. There isn't much to debate over this
[23:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:27] <exec> 08└─There’s no consensus on how much further the human role in spaceflight will—or should—shrink. Uitenbroek thinks trying to develop software that can account for every possible contingency is simply impractical, especially when you have deadlines to make.
[23:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are We Making Spacecraft Too Autonomous? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:30] <exec> 08└─I'm the kind of guy that still likes to turn the knob when I change the volume.
[23:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:59] <exec> 08└─It will check your local quarantine regulations too, refuse to dispatch (for your safety) if the governor has issued a stay at home order, and automatically lock the doors and quarantine you for 14 days (for your safety) when you cross into a state where its governor has issued an order.
[23:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:01] <exec> 08└─Bavarian MotorWerks run by millenials.
[23:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:03] <exec> 08└─It's even harder to explain why you paid 60 grand for a car, and the frigging "features" don't work when you want them to work. That's beside the point that I think heated seats are for sissies and wimps. The windshield needs a defroster, pretty much everything else is extra. There is one single sis...
[23:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:05] <exec> 08└─Uhmmmm - you say that fucking them is part of the bundle option? Hmmmm . . . . no, I don't think so.
[23:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:07] <exec> 08└─I did that, and a pickup truck full of Mexicans showed up. The app can't wreck a nice beach
[23:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:09] <exec> 08└─Functioning vehicle electric system. I hear this much wanted feature is still in development and should be available any year now.
[23:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:12] <exec> 08└─But the BMW mentality. BMW is virtue signalling that it's owner is filthy rich.
[23:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03sonamchauhan [6546] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Heated Seats as a Service? BMW Wants to Sell Car Features on Demand - 1307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:14] <exec> 08└─BMW End User License Agreement This vehicle is licensed, not sold. Your usage of this car is governed by the terms of this End User Licensed Agreement (EULA).In all cases, your rights and duties are governed by the recitals in the following sections of the EULA. These sections may change with no for...
[23:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Zealand's Ancient Monster Penguins Had Northern Hemisphere Doppelgangers - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:23:29] <exec> 08└─Ugh... now my back smells like fish bringing all them flies.
[23:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:41] <exec> 08└─OK, I'm not rust expert, and that's not the way I understood cargo as working. The objection still stands in a weaker form, but in that form it applies to all systems libraries. If your system needs to be secure you should include all the libraries you need statically linked. This can get bulky.
[23:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:42] <exec> 08└─I find the first half of your post reasonable and the second half absurd or ignorant. Go is not only statically linked, but all dependencies are pinned via checksum and minimum specified version (rather than maximum specified version like many language dependency managers) and Go provides both globa...
[23:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Than 75% of All Vulnerabilities Reside in Indirect Dependencies - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:45] <exec> 08└─if Netcraft is any indicator. It shows around 4.5% and declining
[23:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stock Surge Makes Tesla the World's Most Valuable Automaker - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:16] <exec> 08└─On range, Teslas are far ahead of all the others. Roughly 330 miles for the long range Tesla model 3, vs, at the most optimistic, 250 miles for the best BYD vehicles. .. Yet Tesla is pretty far ahead on other things, such as battery longevity, and recharge times.
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