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[00:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:16] <exec> 08└─Tennō Toranpu!
[00:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:18] <exec> 08└─Stop! You're both right! New and Improved Hydrogel! Kills viruses dead! And it removes those ugly blood stains from the carpet, and that smelly powder residue
[00:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:20] <exec> 08└─much like swiss cheese. Got it.
[00:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:22] <exec> 08└─How come a paper from Hokkaido U has so many Chinamen as authors? I thought they were mortal enemies of the nips?
[00:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:24] <exec> 08└─A hard drive can remember things and forget (when you delete) them as well. You can create functions that would choose under what conditions something should be remembered and under what conditions it should be forgotten. IE: firefox may store web history and cache up to a given point but if a websi...
[00:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:26] <exec> 08└─"Hydrogels are excellent candidates to mimic biological functions because they are soft and wet like human tissues"
[00:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Opportunist [5545] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:28] <exec> 08└─I mean, it can store, retrieve and forget information. Can't process it, but then again, storing, retrieving and forgetting information is all our school system asks of you, that stuff should at the very least be good enough to get a high school diploma.
[00:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:30] <exec> 08└─It's soft and wet. So if you use it to store porn the advantages are self-evident.
[00:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:33] <exec> 08└─If you're going to come up with another variant on memory foam, or silly putty, then for gods' sake don't put it up on the internet with claims of equivalence to bio-/electro-chemical machines such as the human brain. Because if you do, you'll end up with a lot of comments such as the above and the...
[00:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:35] <exec> 08└─You've not seen OP's hard drive!
[00:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06New Zealand Publishes Algorithm Charter for Government Use of Algorithms and Data - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:46] <exec> 08└─Enrolment is the standard spelling in British English, which breaks the general rule that British words carry with them an extra consonant.
[00:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe a food truck could do better?
[00:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:28] <exec> 08└─Critical Theory is ultimately an ideology of self-loathing; when society has been deconstructed into (imaginary) systems of oppression, complicity is inevitable. Antifa are white supremacists with a guilt complex!
[00:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:57] <exec> 08└─Schrodinger's Covid - also sometimes known as the common cold.
[00:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:59] <exec> 08└─I wonder if it affects cats of a certain age more than others.
[00:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:01] <exec> 08└─Dogs are better than cats. No wait. Dogs are better than people, certainly better your limey neighbors. If your border collies haven't convinced you of that ...
[00:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:03] <exec> 08└─Did they run out of people to test? Just seems odd people get angry if someone doesn't wear a mask, but seem just fine wasting tests on their pets. Through this whole thing I've argued with a bunch of people about masks and how and why you catch a virus, not a single one offered to give me a test. I...
[00:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Emits Never-Before Seen Mix of Radiation - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:16] <exec> 08└─You can have my stellar radiation when you pry it out of my cold dead gravity well.
[00:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:43] <exec> 08└─I just checked a backup from a QNAP NAS I have in my drawer, and it is formatted NTFS, which is not the best, but I can at least read the data from pretty much any device.
[00:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:45] <exec> 08└─She's on a Windows laptop, not likely to use a 2nd machine much... just how our physical layout works here. We've never, ever run anything like Kaspersky or Norton Antivirus - over the past 30 years I think I can safely say: viruses have caused me MUCH less headache than those antivirus programs hav...
[00:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Virgin Galactic Shows Off Passenger Spaceship Cabin Interior - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:00] <exec> 08└─I was picturing something like: Virgin Galactic still hasn't got a vehicle to orbit, despite being "almost ready" since 2004" I can't help wondering what they're really up to. It just shouldn't take this long, so is it some sort of tax dodge or something?
[00:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Engineering Chief Out After 7nm Product Delays - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:38] <exec> 08└─Or DO connect it to the spy network, but don't trust it and use the old hardware on the side, air-gapped and Faraday-caged if necessary.
[00:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Competition Warming up with New Volkswagen IDs - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:23] <exec> 08└─There is no hope. However, AltaVista used to be Digital. As I am an ex-DEC Alpha owner (personal, bought it myself, not just used at place of work or study), I'm always going to have a soft spot for anything Digital.
[00:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Competition Warming up with New Volkswagen IDs - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:24] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I wan't explicit. I'm supporting the AltaVista of yore, not the Altavista of today.
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[01:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:37] <exec> 08└─A bowl of Jell-O can remember better than some people I've met.
[01:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:28] <exec> 08└─"constructed in your head" [youtube.com]
[01:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:30] <exec> 08└─》 Sociology of Coding 101 You just, but the loonies in California just passed a law requiring all university students to take a course in social justice or ethnic studies every semester.
[01:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:32] <exec> 08└─Where do I sign up to get paid for breaking shit and lighting fires? Do they pay in cash and do I need to fill out a 1099 form?
[01:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:34] <exec> 08└─I'm one who is fed up with cops shooting people with little or no reason. I'm not one who wants to tear the country down to - uhhhh - what's the goal? To punish our great-great grandparents who made America what it is? I've said it repeatedly: Fix the problems, and move on. Elect the bad reps out of...
[01:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:36] <exec> 08└─Latin people??? Romanes eunt domus!
[01:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Start Assembling the World's Largest Nuclear Fusion Experiment - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:56] <exec> 08└─At some point you have to give up on hoping for [whatever hypothetical black magic] and build something. The article basically says "we have some model, which we don't really have much evidence for, and it might do something". Great, maybe it will work some day. It isn't exactly 5 sigma though is it...
[01:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Start Assembling the World's Largest Nuclear Fusion Experiment - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:57] <exec> 08└─Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me? Haven't you noticed I'm completely consistent everywhere I go? :) That drives people like you fucking *nuts,* I know, because the idea of someone just being themselves, 100%, everywhere they go, is al...
[01:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:59] <exec> 08└─*cough* I would be VERY surprised if none of those agents identified him/herself during questioning. At this point we only have one person's account of his interrogation (that I'm aware of) and he seems to milking the event for notoriety.
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[02:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:28] <exec> 08└─I'm as big a booster of SpaceX as anyone, but "it could become the first American space capsule in history to launch astronauts into orbit twice" is quite the hyperbole - sure, it's the first "capsule", but that's nowhere near the achievements of the Space Shuttle (which, I guess, isn't a "capsule")...
[02:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:29] <exec> 08└─They get really excited over every little milestone. Guinness style. I quoted that because I didn't see where NASA provided the info (maybe an older article).
[02:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:31] <exec> 08└─They get really excited over every little milestone. Guinness style.
[02:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:50] <exec> 08└─It's already smarter than democrats, sjw, and blm.
[02:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:46] <exec> 08└─I'm one who is fed up with cops shooting people with little or no reason.
[02:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:48] <exec> 08└─And you simply DO NOT extrapolate minor nightly made-for-TV disturbances on one particular block to "tearing down the country" and other hyperbolic bullshit. It's just like in Lafayette Square: you take away the "police" dressed up as soldiers and most of your problems go away. Put real police out t...
[02:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah, pretty much. Don't believe me, you can ask my friend in Hong Kong. Well, actually, you can't. Not any more.
[02:23:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:52] <exec> 08└─Whiners love to whine. Around here there is a periodic bitchfest about food deserts. A grocery will open sooner or later and everyone will applaud the social justice. "Shrinkage" ensues and they eventually hire security guards for all the thefts and robberies. The store will then close down when the...
[02:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:54] <exec> 08└─Ohhh-Kay. Where you going to get real police from? The Mayor of Portland, like the Mayor of Baltimore before him, wants to be loved by the rioters. He pulled his police out of the area, and gave the rioters the green light to wreck the city. You want county sheriffs to take over? Probably not enough...
[02:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:56] <exec> 08└─Read more newsfeeds than just CNN.
[02:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Dead Star Emits Never-Before Seen Mix of Radiation - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:42] <exec> 08└─from super-luminous supernova explosions
[02:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Approach Refines the Hubble's Constant and Age of Universe - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:33] <exec> 08└─Only if the further you are from me, the smarter you think you are.
[02:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Engineering Chief Out After 7nm Product Delays - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:07] <exec> 08└─They did cut the price by a lot, but still more expensive than the AMD processor.
[02:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:22] <exec> 08└─Way more than one person, and none of the agents had identifying patches on their uniforms, as you can see from the many photos floating around.
[02:29:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:24] <exec> 08└─We've gone over that claim in depth. The photo that Deathmonkey submitted as "evidence" that totally anonymous thugs were rampaging through the streets was photoshopped. The original photo, taken in poor lighting, shows plenty of evidence of indentifier badges on those troops. Are you doubling down...
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[03:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:59] <exec> 08└─Cubic miles.
[03:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:01] <exec> 08└─Get in touch with FatPhil, he may be able to help with beer in those quantities. I heard he needs a line of credit at the local pub from time to time and there are signs he's having an acute hypoalcoholemia attack recently.
[03:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:24] <exec> 08└─> The goal seems to be to stop cops from shooting (mostly) black people. Stats don't support that [lawenforcementtoday.com] > What do you think the protestors are trying to do? Cynically exploit the death of a black man as a bullshit excuse for communist insurrection. Communism killed 100,000,000 pe...
[03:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:26] <exec> 08└─Make your mind up. In the other thread you're arguing people should be shooting each other. I am fairly sure I can't get CNN where I live anyway.
[03:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:27] <exec> 08└─And white people make up most of the serial killers.
[03:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:31] <exec> 08└─It's a government job, so likely somewhere in Washington DC.
[03:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:32] <exec> 08└─This is the part that makes no sense, at least on the surface. Most people are against police brutality. Most of the politicians and media pundits claim to support the protests. But if your cause already has widespread support, why do the protests need to continue? Who is preventing the local and st...
[03:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:34] <exec> 08└─the message about black lives mattering tends to get lost.
[03:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:36] <exec> 08└─"If only all of these kinds of stores would die a horrible and miserable death." From your lips to the ears of heaven.
[03:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Engineering Chief Out After 7nm Product Delays - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:49] <exec> 08└─Many of Intel's sales are to OEMs, datacenters, etc. They are certain to be charging a lot less to some of those customers than what official/tray prices would suggest. Things are happening behind the scenes, and Intel is no stranger to anti-competitive behavior [networkworld.com]. While Intel's "14...
[03:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:30:07] <exec> 08└─...I don't think you can make a case that unidentifiable thugs are protecting the Federal building.
[03:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:30:08] <exec> 08└─One big difference between Austin and the other sites you mentioned, a person is allowed to have a dissenting opinion on a topic in Austin. It is even encouraged. In them other places, not so much.
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[04:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:56] <exec> 08└─Just imagine what must be going on, mostly unreported and "unseen", in unregulated markets where the unscrupulous makers of such products are free to dump them for quick profits.
[04:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:58] <exec> 08└─Why can't we just ban these products like vape?
[04:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:00] <exec> 08└─The irony is that some people died by caving to the fear mongering over COVID: people who probably wouldn't have been seriously harmed had they even CAUGHT COVID.
[04:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:02] <exec> 08└─150,000 dead. Fear-mongering?
[04:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:04] <exec> 08└─I'll bet you a Trump U. diploma's worth of donuts (or a half dozen, whichever is worth more) that FAR more people who claimed fear mongering and refused to use masks and go to crowded political rallies died of it than died of methanol-based hand sanitizers.
[04:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:07] <exec> 08└─The irony is that some people died by caving to the fear mongering over COVID using disinfectants that were not supposed to be toxic
[04:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:09] <exec> 08└─Yes, it's just like the flu. A really really really virulent and deadly version of the flu, but just like it otherwise.
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[04:23:21] <exec> 08└─I remember a couple of years ago, the plan was to use each capsule for astronauts only once, and then retire it or use it for cargo delivery afterward. Especially after the little kaflooie with the Crew Dragon unmanned test vehicle, I'm surprised they're relaxing that rule so soon.
[04:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:22] <exec> 08└─That seems to be an odd way to do a reusable crew capsule, though back then they may have been working on the assumption that making the Crew Dragon reusable would take a few tries to get right. SpaceX seems to like to hedge their bets when they can so I guess that isn't surprising.
[04:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:24] <exec> 08└─NASA is probably watching every SpaceX launch closely, so they will know about problems even on a Starlink launch, for example. They must be confident that the reuse/refurbishment process works. You can spin reusability two different ways: slightly damaged, or "flight proven".
[04:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06New Zealand Publishes Algorithm Charter for Government Use of Algorithms and Data - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:57] <exec> 08└─Maybe I should not assume newspeak from NZ, but just in case, the translation is: The algorithms will decide things, and we declare unfair unethical and suspect whoever does not conform.
[04:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:58] <exec> 08└─They have absolutely no laws about technology that can teleport small quantities of matter across distances of ~1 meter
[04:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 1889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:59] <exec> 08└─There are more cops in a single police force than there are Trump Troopers that have been brought in. That's the problem they had in DC. Barr specifically excluded DC police from his crackdown. Other police forces in the area specifically pulled them out of the area when it became clear that it was...
[04:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 1451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:01] <exec> 08└─There is no organization. No BLM leader to call things off. No mystical "antifa" leader urging these things to continue. If you ramp up the jackboot thug thing, you'll ramp up the resistance to it, which is exactly what Trump wants to do. Great "law and order" stuff. Let's send "troops" into Chicago...
[04:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:03] <exec> 08└─Or if the shoplifters get an addition to their record and then released (as in the state of CA), then RIte-Aid gets no benefit from the system. The shoplifters just return after they are released and maybe steal more since it does not seem to matter if they get caught.
[04:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:18] <exec> 08└─NTFS [wikipedia.org] isn't a terrible filesystem. And even though it's a proprietary format, Linux/BSD have decent NTFS filesystem support too. Unless and until Microsoft decides that interoperability isn't in their best interests.
[04:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:20] <exec> 08└─Nyet comrade. In Soviet Russia, Anna Kournikova virus spreads YOU!
[04:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:22] <exec> 08└─Q: did the QNAP NAS format the drive NTFS, or was the drive already NTFS and QNAP used it as is?
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[05:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03gmby [83] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:03] <exec> 08└─Like Mexico? The list is all from Mexico. I guess I'll put Mexico on my "do not buy list for consumables." I've had pretty good results with car parts from there. I don't mind my money going down south of the border; just not to Chicom.
[05:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah, an atomic bomb is just like a cracker. A really really really deadly version of a cracker, but just like it otherwise.
[05:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:06] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, comrade. Free market will sort it out.
[05:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:08] <exec> 08└─Once upon a time my grandfather was released from a WWII German concentration camp with a few other survivors. They walked an almost abandoned village and found a railroad tank car full with alcohol. The valve was opened and party started. My granddad did not drink. He was the only one who survived.
[05:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:24] <exec> 08└─Still, "not end-to-end tested" is a valid description for "new". It's not all spin in my opinion.
[05:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:59] <exec> 08└─10 cls 20 if $A=black goto 40 30 if $A=white goto 50 40 call 911 50 play music over intercom 60 goto 10
[05:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:32] <exec> 08└─Just don't eat cats.
[05:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 1634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:21] <exec> 08└─Same here re: anti-virus. Well, I've run a few now and then- ones I'm pretty confident of. I don't let them make decisions for me. ClamAV is pretty good but well known to have many false-positives. I've run several on other people's computers, certainly various work / office clients. I had one on my...
[05:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:22] <exec> 08└─Synology uses LVM and mdadm to configure their disks. If you are just expecting a regular partitioned drive, that could throw you off, but I find it surprising JoeMerchant couldn't handle it.
[05:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Virgin Galactic Shows Off Passenger Spaceship Cabin Interior - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:39] <exec> 08└─I've been in some crazy airplane and helicopter flights doing science experiments and never got airsick. I've been out on a deep sea fishing boat about four times and threw up all four times. I used to sometimes get carsick as a kid, but I don't any more (or I don't think I do--I'm almost always the...
[05:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Virgin Galactic Shows Off Passenger Spaceship Cabin Interior - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:40] <exec> 08└─Yeah, well maybe affordable for your grandkids. I'd still bank on those cross-country Disney trips for yourself, if I was you.
[05:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Virgin Galactic Shows Off Passenger Spaceship Cabin Interior - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, not anytime soon. https://www.businessinsider.com [businessinsider.com] Maybe after the vaccine gets released in 2023.
[05:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Start Assembling the World's Largest Nuclear Fusion Experiment - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:36] <exec> 08└─Are you one of them demons that I've been hearing about lately that come and have sex with me while I'm sleeping? Or do you bring me hydroxychloroquine while I'm sleeping? Shit, I can't remember what that doctor said!
[05:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Start Assembling the World's Largest Nuclear Fusion Experiment - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:38] <exec> 08└─The US, at least, has only dumped a fraction (hundreds of millions) into that project compared to the 1-point-whatever billion given to the Trump supporter to build walls, just like the one he built WHICH HAS ALREADY FALLEN DOWN [texastribune.org]! Let's see, over a billion dollars to build a fuckin...
[05:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Science Identifies the Ancient Enzyme in Bacteria That Makes Humans' Body Odor So Pungent - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:01] <exec> 08└─I'll start developing smelly armpits within a few hours at best.
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[06:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:40] <exec> 08└─Now we can finally get Runaway1965's diagnosis! Early, well, not that early, onset! And TMB, but that is really early onset. Sorry, TMB. Hope you get better soon, or get so far gone that you think you are better!
[06:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:42] <exec> 08└─TMB... or get so far gone that you think you are better!
[06:22:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 29 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:53] <exec> 08└─150,000 dead. Fear-mongering?
[06:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:01] <exec> 08└─No moderation option for -1 stupid?
[06:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:03] <exec> 08└─150,000 dead. Fear-mongering?
[06:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:06] <exec> 08└─150,000 dead. Fear-mongering?
[06:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 1044 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:08] <exec> 08└─I have no worries about C4U alcohol-based hand sanitizer. It's made by Gulf Coast Distillers, a US company which also makes potable alcohol. I figure those two things combined make it very unlikely to have that problem. I've run through about half my supply since this all started and I'm obviously n...
[06:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but "homicide" doesn't typically follow your kids to grandma's house when they visit. Though in one aspect, you may be right about the virus being used for homicide: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardia...
[06:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:26] <exec> 08└─Any hype about getting men in space 60 years after the first achievement is kind of beyond reasonable. Having said that, the real test will come after they lose some men.
[06:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:47] <exec> 08└─Scientists tend to work with whoever shares their passion for science. Borders mean less when you aren't concerned with the petty disputes of politicians and are more interested with the puzzles of technology and physics. I've been blessed to write papers with authors from half a dozen different cou...
[06:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hydrogel Mimics Human Brain With Memorizing and Forgetting Ability - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:48] <exec> 08└─That's great, except that their analogy isn't really wrong? Memories are formed by reinforcing electrochemical cross-links in the brain. Here configurations are stored through reinforcing electrochemical cross-links in the substrate. (Full disclosure: I am an academic and I read tfa)
[06:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:05] <exec> 08└─Bundy and company weren't destroying property, if you'll recall.
[06:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:39] <exec> 08└─Brits are known to be sadistic toward cats; guinea pigs as well. https://nypost.com [nypost.com]
[06:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:40] <exec> 08└─If 90% of those infected don't spread it to others, it's kinds hard for this to grow and spread like an epidemic. (That 10% would have to be super spreaders to even up the infection figures.) I didn't spot anything about this in the pre-print you linked.
[06:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:30] <exec> 08└─Just realized he said QNAP and you said Synology. So I looked, and QNAP also uses MDADM and LVM, according to their website.
[06:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:31] <exec> 08└─I remember a virus that tried to dodge that even for people that had file extensions set to visible. It was brilliantly long enough to make it truncated even when viewing it in File Explorer. It had the program icon of a Realplayer media file and a name like: HotTeens3sum.rm_________________________...
[06:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Approach Refines the Hubble's Constant and Age of Universe - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:59] <exec> 08└─No, theories of dark matter cannot explain it at all. Unless dark matter happens to follow MoND somehow.
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[07:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:48] <exec> 08└─I seem to have triggered the flu cowards with my post. In your Orange Man Bad mind blur, you didn't give my post the thought it deserved. I will spell it out for you: the people who died from these crap sanitizers were SO DESPERATE to buy hand sanitizer that they bought really off brand crap of unkn...
[07:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:49] <exec> 08└─Elsewhere, outside the US? We don't slather ourselves in sanitizer. We still live.
[07:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:22:52] <exec> 08└─the people who died from these crap sanitizers were SO DESPERATE to buy hand sanitizer that they bought really off brand crap of unknown origin because they thought hand sanitizer was a life or death need
[07:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:24:45] <exec> 08└─California just passed a law requiring all university students to take a course in social justice or ethnic studies every semester.
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[08:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:23] <exec> 08└─The result then begs the question whether or not the universe is deterministic. Is the outcome predetermined if changes made to the initial state do not propagate? That would also mean that the world of quantum probabilities may collapse into a (or the same) deterministic system regardless the initi...
[08:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:33] <exec> 08└─Are they as senile as he is?
[08:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:54] <exec> 08└─If you ramp up the jackboot thug thing, you'll ramp up the resistance to it, which is exactly what Trump wants to do.
[08:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:56] <exec> 08└─Who is preventing the local and state governments from doing their jobs and answering the people's demands, so everyone can go home?
[08:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Vocal Minority [2765] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:33] <exec> 08└─Ah, yes one of his Dunsany fanboy fic stories. I had forgotten about that one!
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[09:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:27] <exec> 08└─https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/03/12/136684/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/ [technologyreview.com]
[09:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 1198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:28] <exec> 08└─NO!!!!! It does not "beg the question"! In that case, it would just be arguing in a circle! Like, "the universe is deterministic because everything in it is necessary consequence of a cause". That is question begging. Or, "things happen for no reason, because there is no reason for things to happen...
[09:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:30] <exec> 08└─lol u need some catnip.
[09:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:32] <exec> 08└─No, Phoenix666. The farther in the past you DO the damage the less the present is affected.
[09:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:34] <exec> 08└─So killing my own grandfather is risky, but killing my great-great-grandfather is safe?
[09:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:45] <exec> 08└─Remoras: just swim around next to the carnage and grift on the scraps. None of these people will ever work in government, or business, again. Right, Paul Wolfowitz?
[09:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:22:47] <exec> 08└─That doesn't appear to be as good at detection as dogs or super smellers at detecting Alzheimer's Disease (I could be thinking of Parkinson's Disease, though). Although, it is hard to directly compare when you don't know if the given measure is sensitivity, specificity, or estimated accuracy.
[09:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, homicide looks worse than coronavirus when you compare WORLD homicides to US covid deaths. World homicides are around the number you cite. US homicides are around 20,000, according to the CDC. World coronavirus deaths are around 668,000 and U.S. Coronavirus deaths are around 153,000. Also note...
[09:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:14] <exec> 08└─why is it only the US has this problem? No other western countries have people willfully poisoning their own countrymen* with dodgy products. Snake oil [wikipedia.org] salesmen didn't originate in the US, but may have been perfected there. *note, I said western countries
[09:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:46] <exec> 08└─Still using the wrong terminology for the virus! And in a news article! Call the disease by its proper name: *SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) EBOLAIDS
[09:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Start Assembling the World's Largest Nuclear Fusion Experiment - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:49] <exec> 08└─So says the moron who posted this [soylentnews.org] about 50 times over the weekend and also this [soylentnews.org]. Don't you have something better to do than shitposting and spamming your bullshit all over this site?
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[10:22:21] <exec> 08└─Debate over the global dilemma continues.
[10:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:22] <exec> 08└─nothing has a value [cdc.gov] 148,000 dead now, 500,000 dead later.. won't matter - just divide by "economic loss" to get an economist's value of a human life.
[10:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:35] <exec> 08└─I use device models all the time with computer analysis. Using models, I can build devices with phenomenal performance. However I usually can't build a physical device that has that kind of performance. My model is simply a model. Not exact. I learned long time ago that one should always verify that...
[10:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:37] <exec> 08└─Only if your great-great-grandfather had a quantum nature. Ummm.. was he ever locked in a box observed by Schrödinger?
[10:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:22:39] <exec> 08└─No time to do it properly though. I do find the abstract/introduction broken though: the way I read it, they say they get a system to evolve according to nonlinear equations, then perturb it, then evolve backwards. and then they find that the perturbation doesn't affect the outcome that much (system...
[10:23:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 132 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:01] <exec> 08└─The irony is that some people died by caving to the fear mongering over COVID using disinfectants that were not supposed to be toxic
[10:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 1401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:13] <exec> 08└─"Or they could be people who are fed up with the police shooting their black neighbours." One of the most problematic aspects is the constant racialisation. People should be fed up with police committing crimes; regardless of the color of the victims. The reality is that criminal police target those...
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[11:22:19] <exec> 08└─TFA links to another article discussing a cost-benefit analysis involving lives saved from the lockdowns. And here [cambridge.org] is the actual study described by the article. These studies suffer from serious flaws. First, attributing the reduction in economic activity to the lockdowns is flawed....
[11:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:21] <exec> 08└─What exactly is the dilemma here? Profit over life?
[11:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:23] <exec> 08└─First, attributing the reduction in economic activity to the lockdowns is flawed.
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[12:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:25] <exec> 08└─Making it? No problem. Administering it to themselves? No problem. Sharing it with the intention for others to administer? That's a problem. You'd be hard-pressed to convict based on available evidence, I imagine, but if a team of researchers work on a vaccine and decide to administer it to themselv...
[12:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:27] <exec> 08└─So he snorted some chemicals that may or may not work for a condition he may or may not have. So if he never gets it is that a sign for that the "cure" worked or just that he never got it? How will they ever know, I guess they could do some proper testing afterwards but the sample size will be horri...
[12:22:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 2551 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:36] <exec> 08└─TFA links to another article discussing a cost-benefit analysis involving lives saved from the lockdowns. And here [cambridge.org] is the actual study described by the article. These studies suffer from serious flaws. First, attributing the reduction in economic activity to the lockdowns is flawed....
[12:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:40] <exec> 08└─People with non-COVID illnesses do not get help in time, with hospitals and doctors' offices denied to them, and either die at home or have the condition (such as cancer) progress to terminal, to do their dying a little bit later. People with no money cannot afford proper medical help and/or medicin...
[12:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:42] <exec> 08└─And we even have real-world data on this, thoughtfully provided by the Kingdom of Sweden, who ran a don't-lock-down experiment for us. Result: Twenty times the death toll of their neighbours who did lock down, and no economic benefit compared to said neighbours.
[12:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:45] <exec> 08└─So, If you get the transmission rates down, the hospitals won't be overwhelmed, This is the US, where "universal health care" is rejected because of the "socialist" in "socialized", so you do have people who can't afford health care or hospital, or medicine, and your society allows (demands!) that t...
[12:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:47] <exec> 08└─Possible death from infection over possible death from deprivation, and which will kill more in the end.
[12:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:49] <exec> 08└─Sweden is 4th worst in europe. The top 3 performed hard lockdowns. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[12:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:23:15] <exec> 08└─Great news and all but I'm not sure I would really want to know if it can't be cured. Sure there might be things I could do to prepare or minimize risk but still. Not sure if I would actually want to know that in a decade or two you are done for. If anything this seems like a recipe for suicide.
[12:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03snmygos [6274] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Intel Engineering Chief Out After 7nm Product Delays - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:11] <exec> 08└─"And yet, even with fewer qualified female and minority candidates for jobs at the company, Intel says it can do more to recruit employees from those groups."
[12:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Engineering Chief Out After 7nm Product Delays - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:12] <exec> 08└─All of that bolsters my point. Intel doesn't know how to be the budget brand. With all the problems with their latest and greatest, they're still marketing as if they're infallible. They're making it on momentum for now, but that can only go on for so long. That's not to say they'll be closing their...
[12:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jman [6085] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Science Identifies the Ancient Enzyme in Bacteria That Makes Humans' Body Odor So Pungent - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:44] <exec> 08└─$author_comment="This research was a real $(sed 's/eye/nose/') opener.";
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[13:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:26] <exec> 08└─Might as well suck on some pennies too. You know that chlora-whats-its-name and Zinc are the magic cure that the government is trying to suppress. Somehow these people know more than the rest of the world?
[13:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:27] <exec> 08└─celebrity geneticist
[13:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:30] <exec> 08└─probably the most famous case is that of Barry Marshall, who gave himself ulcer on purpose: https://www.discovermagazine.com [discovermagazine.com] just in case people demand a citation for the "famous me...
[13:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:32] <exec> 08└─I've seen zombie movies. Epidemic often starts in labs with researchers fooling around with chemicals.
[13:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:34] <exec> 08└─A scientist that spliced his own with Eeyore's DNA. I hear he's hung like a, you know, donkey.
[13:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:36] <exec> 08└─The legality aspect?
[13:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:38] <exec> 08└─So what they don't know about won't hurt them except that Estep now just outed himself, or got outed by his friend, in the news so he would or should expect a stern talking to from his boss or the HR department at whatever lab he works at.
[13:22:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:46] <exec> 08└─Debate over the global dilemma continues.
[13:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:57] <exec> 08└─If most people don't feel safe going to restaurants and bars, lifting the lockdowns won't save those businesses.
[13:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:59] <exec> 08└─[Citation needed] on the emphasized
[13:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that "elimination" works right up until one person comes in on a plane or boat with it and starts it all right back up because nobody has any immunity.
[13:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:04] <exec> 08└─[Citation needed] on the emphasized
[13:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:06] <exec> 08└─And we're heading straight for it.
[13:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:08] <exec> 08└─People gone crazy, but with less access to guns.. kill fewer people kill their family or buddies with kitchen knives
[13:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:10] <exec> 08└─Oh stop playing idiot. Lockdown->Nobody spending anywhere but WalMart and Amazon->All other businesses lose money->Many of them go out of business->Every job they provided disappears->Unemployed people have no money to spend even at the few places that are open->Many of those places end up closing a...
[13:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:12] <exec> 08└─Sweden's death numbers are several times other nordic countries', those that are actually comparable to Sweden in terms of location/culture/size, unlike the other "top performers" that are much larger, hosts many more tourists/foreigners, etc.
[13:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:14] <exec> 08└─What exactly is the dilemma here?
[13:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 5526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:31] <exec> 08└─I'm gonna go into my personal way of understanding quantum effects here, don't take this as scientifically rigorous. Most quantum effects can be explained by the particles involved not actually being restricted to our classical four dimensions. These things are traversing entire other dimensions, co...
[13:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:44] <exec> 08└─Dogs can't directly detect Alzheimers, what they're reacting positively to is an old person who forgets that they gave the dog treats two minutes ago and continues to feed treats until one of them dies.
[13:23:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 124 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, an atomic bomb is just like a cracker. A really really really deadly version of a cracker, but just like it otherwise.
[13:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:10] <exec> 08└─Science fiction - great way to impregnate thousands of women in a single day...
[13:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:38] <exec> 08└─I found the uPnP hole because of a couple of outside connections to the camera I found while reviewing the logs, I think they originated in eastern Europe. There are bots that scan for those things all over... they got a good look at my yard outside - maybe saw the UPS man drive up, that's what we u...
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[14:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:45] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the ones that start with viruses in labs that lose containment.
[14:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:47] <exec> 08└─And of course, self administered vaccines with no control group or blinding yield no science.
[14:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 1166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:49] <exec> 08└─There would, however, be a difference between infecting oneself to prove something medically and treating oneself to cure something without proper control studies. The former may pave a way to understanding something. Marshall and Warren certainly deserved their Nobel. But it took much more work and...
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[14:22:51] <exec> 08└─I hear attempts to merge human and donkey DNA is illegal in 45 states. I sure hope they're in one of the legal states! Are they a celebrity because they put the documentary videos online somewhere?
[14:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:53] <exec> 08└─Scientists are supposed to make the most dangerous experiments on themselves. Newton was sticking needles into his eyes to get his data right. But get this - Russian elite is secretly testing corona vaccine on themselves since April. If I am to believe Bloomberg that is. Such a heroes! We need to el...
[14:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:56] <exec> 08└─Er... Don't they have the rest of the planet as a control group? In any case, all the folks getting their panties in a wad saying "this won't prove anything"? Yes, it will. It is quite possible to prove whether the vaccine is worth a serious and immediate closer look or not.
[14:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:58] <exec> 08└─Have to lick off the copper coating first to get to the chewy zinc center. Ain't copper sposed to be magic too though? Or was that magnets?
[14:23:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:08] <exec> 08└─First, attributing the reduction in economic activity to the lockdowns is flawed.
[14:23:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 608 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:12] <exec> 08└─So, If you get the transmission rates down, the hospitals won't be overwhelmed, This is the US, where "universal health care" is rejected because of the "socialist" in "socialized", so you do have people who can't afford health care or hospital, or medicine, and your society allows (demands!) that t...
[14:23:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:13] <exec> 08└─Possible death from infection over possible death from deprivation, and which will kill more in the end.
[14:23:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 189 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:15] <exec> 08└─Sweden is 4th worst in europe. The top 3 performed hard lockdowns. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[14:23:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Booga1 [6333] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 112 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:17] <exec> 08└─If most people don't feel safe going to restaurants and bars, lifting the lockdowns won't save those businesses.
[14:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:27] <exec> 08└─Bo moron, it's life over life. Most likely economic collapse will lead to kore victims, and most likely children unlike the elderly who die from the virus.
[14:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:30] <exec> 08└─Capitalism should have been frozen at the first lockdown and an ‘emergency economic system’ put in place. What would an ‘emergency economic system’ Be? We don’t know because the only thing Economists learn is capitalism. Well at least now they know ‘capitalism + pandemic’ = lot of clos...
[14:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:32] <exec> 08└─While that happens, it's more difficult, so less frequent.
[14:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:34] <exec> 08└─People aren't going to bars, restaurants and sporting events because they "feel unsafe". They cannot go because democrat governors for the most part have prohibited them from opening.
[14:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:36] <exec> 08└─It seems to me you are equating lockdown with shutdown. Lockdown will shutdown only the activities that bring people in close contact, inside narrow spaces. for years and years while the hide-under-the-bed game goes on and on?
[14:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:38] <exec> 08└─Dilemma? Who is ruling the world. China is bigger now. Are you willing to sacrifice whatever you feel you life values are for dying covid friends - that's the dilemma.
[14:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:40] <exec> 08└─Poverty and disease go hand in hand. We'll see how people think when food shortages hit. I've been watching for announcements of shortages of one item, then another, and then a snowball effect. Meat packing plants have been in the news already for large numbers of Covid cases. Even before the Wuhan...
[14:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:43] <exec> 08└─At least in democrat run states, the goal is to get the Trump administration to make up for state shortfalls, while trying to shift the blame for the state lockdowns to it. After November 3rd, they can get back to economic reality.
[14:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:45] <exec> 08└─I think think it's interesting how Economists suddenly became a trusted group of experts...
[14:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:47] <exec> 08└─The 'chain of events' you're presenting started happening long before CoViD-19 came along.
[14:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:49] <exec> 08└─Meat packing plants? How are they faring today? How many hot spots have been discovered in them, to date? Has anyone collected all that data into a nice yummy package?
[14:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:51] <exec> 08└─That's why we socialize the cost of sustaining those people and businesses (see what I did there?) during the temporary slow-down, because it's only about 20% of the economy that has shut. If we do that for six months and amortize the cost over five years, that's effectively a 2% hit. Multiply accor...
[14:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 1054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:53] <exec> 08└─Except that: A) Governments have the authority to set fiscal policy and can therefore provide extended unemployment benefits, and can provide assistance in reconstituting the economy, if they only get off their asses to do so. (And aren't so beholden to their masters that it becomes a fight over who...
[14:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:10] <exec> 08└─It sounds like you're arguing for parallel worlds -- which I would say isn't strict time travel.
[14:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 2859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:11] <exec> 08└─Any system is deterministic if you mutliplex the hell out of it so that all possible initial conditions are paired off with possible outcomes in a many to many relationship. Nondeterminism comes from picking a specific thread. This is a consequence of the linearity of quantum mechanics. It's easiest...
[14:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03nostyle [11497] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:26] <exec> 08└─I think this is more about letting the family know when they should confiscate your car keys and prohibit further revisions to the will.
[14:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 1009 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:55] <exec> 08└─You'd lose. A global methanol based sanitizer deaths vs people who attended a Trump rally without a mask. He's had seven rallies in the covid19 timeframe so far. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Averaging about 11k per rally https://www.washing...
[14:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:57] <exec> 08└─So you STILL found a way to blame Orange Man for this? You are crazy. Blame globalization which has been promoted by ALL presidents for decades except Trump. Globalization and Chinese economic integration in particular gave us the Wuhan flu. Globalization shrank American manufacturing to the point t...
[14:25:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06New Zealand Publishes Algorithm Charter for Government Use of Algorithms and Data - 139 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:46] <exec> 08└─Enrolment is the standard spelling in British English, which breaks the general rule that British words carry with them an extra consonant.
[14:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:57] <exec> 08└─Citation needed.
[14:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:59] <exec> 08└─Not strange at all. Conservatives are educated, intelligent, refined, much better behaved. It's just not in their DNA to riot. Soros and his minions know this and know they can get away with funding and inciting rioting- it's expected behavior from the proletariat and lessers. It's all based on a le...
[14:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:01] <exec> 08└─Okay, you're only watching liberal news. But if you read or watch more neutral news you'll see rioters admitting they were paid to riot and incite. Oh, you'll bitch about alt-right news? Okay, just go to youtube and search. Oh, those are made up videos? Okay, keep your head in the sand.
[14:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:03] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter if it's CNN. There's no such thing as news any more. It's all one or the other sides' opinions. They're all biased, have agendas, and are going for the audience $. It's well known that it's easy to pick and choose what you present to make your point. "Present your case in the court...
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[15:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dale [539] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:26] <exec> 08└─I have zero faith in any faction of Congress to be able to make adjustments to this without screwing it up or completely destroying it. It may not be perfect and it may leave some interpretation, but if they touch it and make changes it will only get worse.
[15:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:27] <exec> 08└─The closest they ever come to discussing anything specific about what will change is one fucking sentence. The proposed clarifications reduce companies’ legal protections if they moderate content with a “discernible viewpoint” and make it harder for web companies to dismiss lawsuits over delet...
[15:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:29] <exec> 08└─If Twitter and Facebook choose to censor, edit, ban an individual's free speech, then they are a publisher with editorial control and liable to libel suits. Yes, in the US it would be difficult for a politician to sue for libel, but the masses of normal users on those sites could win a suit with a l...
[15:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but do you trust the executive to interpret the current law fairly? Or do you the courts to establish precedent that makes any sense about it? If we only had one dysfunctional to the point of dystopian branch of government it'd be a lot easier to back this kind of complaint.
[15:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:34] <exec> 08└─Sorry, folks...the system is broken, and at this point there's nothing to do but sit back and enjoy the destruction.
[15:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:36] <exec> 08└─Censorship can only be defeated by technical means. It is a total waste to discuss the law
[15:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:38] <exec> 08└─The proposed law would prohibit platforms from expressing a "discernable viewpoint" on their own platforms. It's no different from regulating what a newspaper decides to publish in its editorial section. There's no chance this holds up in court. Twitter, etc. "feel like" they ought to be common carr...
[15:22:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 545 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:46] <exec> 08└─Making it? No problem. Administering it to themselves? No problem. Sharing it with the intention for others to administer? That's a problem. You'd be hard-pressed to convict based on available evidence, I imagine, but if a team of researchers work on a vaccine and decide to administer it to themselv...
[15:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:02] <exec> 08└─No. But they are a small shortcut to prove that it's not immediately fatal or injurious.
[15:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:03] <exec> 08└─You mean hydroxychloroquine, which the highest executive of the literal government was signal boosting? You mean the zinc that we can freely buy as a dietary supplement, and which is proven to reduce the duration and symptoms of the common cold? Zicam gets to sell itself as a cold remedy because the...
[15:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:05] <exec> 08└─Actually, for many diseases copper is a "sort of" magic. Most germs won't survive long on anything copper or silver plated. (Probably works for gold, to, as the explanation someone gave me had to do with electrical conductivity...whether it was right or not is another question.) Even COVID doesn't l...
[15:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:08] <exec> 08└─The problem with zinc is that the dose is critical. To little zinc is harmful to the immune system, but so is too much. You're probably better of with a multi-vitamin and mineral tablet than with a zinc lozenge.
[15:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:10] <exec> 08└─Isn't suicide illegal in some countries... In the US it is covered by right to privacy or freedom of speech...which ever way you want to look at it. So if you want to inject some junk ...it is your right i suspect.
[15:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:12] <exec> 08└─Everyone wants to be the guinea pig who gets the unlicenced cure. But who will step up to be injected with the virus to prove effectiveness? Actually, how does the even work? Would not a double blind test for a vaccine imply that some unprotected people would need to get injected with the virus to p...
[15:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:14] <exec> 08└─Yes copper is quite toxic, nothing survives being coated in it. Now I might be wrong here, but I suspect that you would kill yourself with copper poisoning long before you hurt any virus living within you. Organic orchards use it as a pesticide, but they cannot use it many years in a row of the tree...
[15:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:17] <exec> 08└─I would suspect that legally it might work identically to guns. As long as you had no part in making it, you are free and clear. But these people are likely to be fired, and maybe they would run afoul of the doctor licencing board or even the legal system for practicing medicine without a licence.
[15:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:19] <exec> 08└─"they're mostly aiming at workers trying to make a meth lab at work or "adopting" test animals as pets" I feel like rules like this would more likely be in place to stop idiots showing off and getting themselves killed. Maybe I am way off base here, but I suspect there are 1000 lab workers who would...
[15:23:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 226 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:49] <exec> 08└─It seems to me you are equating lockdown with shutdown. Lockdown will shutdown only the activities that bring people in close contact, inside narrow spaces. for years and years while the hide-under-the-bed game goes on and on?
[15:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:58] <exec> 08└─If most of your tax base is unemployed, there is no tax money to socialize the cost with. And you really should wash statistics that have been in someone's ass.
[15:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:01] <exec> 08└─People gone crazy, but with less access to guns.
[15:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:03] <exec> 08└─Wasn't his question. Are you unable to get meat currently? Dunno about where you live, but where I do prices rose a bit and sometimes the rack thinned out a little, but it has always been available. What products truly went off the shelves that are not explained by initial waves of hoarding / profit...
[15:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:05] <exec> 08└─I guess it is a very select set of people who are carpetbombing the site with "Troll" mods in every place anyone honest would use "Disagree". When honesty thus becomes a disadvantage for everyone else, that does not support making sense in any discussion. Why bother when beloved "deplatforming" just...
[15:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:07] <exec> 08└─No. You are wrong. Governments cannot miracle up money to solve the problem. The instant they start the money starts decreasing in value and it keeps decreasing as long as they keep giving it out. That's not creating wealth, it's spreading existing wealth around. It doesn't matter if you do it via t...
[15:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:09] <exec> 08└─There are no real shortages - yet. Are we all happy to just sit on our asses, and wait for them to happen?
[15:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:11] <exec> 08└─where I do prices rose a bit and sometimes the rack thinned out a little, but it has always been available.
[15:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:14] <exec> 08└─That was probably a pointless reply. Anyone who believes that nonsense is already under a huge mountain of denial.
[15:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:16] <exec> 08└─So her doctor office shut down all "non-essential" services for awhile, blood pressure check and meds adjustment essential or non-essential? Well its retroactively essential if she has a stroke, but non-essential if she goes in and they don't do or change anything as happens most of the time. I gues...
[15:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:18] <exec> 08└─Bullshit, but not because of what you said which was accurate. Bars and restaurants have been open for quite awhile in my state. Yep, they did get swamped. And we're now experiencing the covid spike that would be expected because of it, more or less on time with the re-opening. And bars in certain a...
[15:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:20] <exec> 08└─It's okay, you can just include that in your original comment, Buzz.
[15:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:22] <exec> 08└─So we pretend magic strips of cloth will prevent everything, etc.
[15:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:24] <exec> 08└─Even if it's total shutdown of all activities, it would be for 2 weeks, not years and year.
[15:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:27] <exec> 08└─Meat packing plants? How are they faring today? How many hot spots have been discovered in them, to date?
[15:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:29] <exec> 08└─Statistics like: "Most of your tax base is unemployed?" To be "most" it must be at least 50% +1. So, douche away.
[15:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:31] <exec> 08└─Are you willing to sacrifice whatever you feel you life values are for dying covid friends
[15:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:33] <exec> 08└─His post was not spam -- it was his opinion. He isn't selling anything. I once lost my mod privileges for some time period for using spam incorrectly and that appears to be appropriate here.
[15:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:35] <exec> 08└─Yes - but - it's so hard to sit back and watch the liars and damned liars spout their meaningless bullshit . . .
[15:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:38] <exec> 08└─Absolutely and verifiably untrue. Take the Brits, as they're a fine example of strict gun control. Their homicide rate per capita is up not down since strict gun control was implemented back in the mid-60s. By around fifty percent. Here in the US, murder rates appear largely unrelated to per capita...
[15:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:40] <exec> 08└─I'm in lockdown from early March and I'm still buying my meat from the local butcher and the veggies/fruits from my local greengrocer. A small sewing and crafts store was listed as "For sale" before covid started. Well, no more, the business is booming - more people staying at home meant more people...
[15:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:42] <exec> 08└─While that happens, it's more difficult, so less frequent.
[15:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:44] <exec> 08└─If most of your tax base is unemployed, there is no tax money to socialize the cost with. Then tax somebody else. Wall Street is doing great (thanks to the trillion dollars a month bailouts). It's about time those people start paying taxes on their unicorns. Let's create a progressive tax system, wh...
[15:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:47] <exec> 08└─You wish. I don't hide what I think. Not about anything.
[15:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:49] <exec> 08└─Disclaimer: Editor's note This page currently tracks large clusters in Victoria (10 or more cases). Data compiled from Victoria Health media releases and reflect what has been announced to the public
[15:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:51] <exec> 08└─Learn to English, man. I did not say most of the tax base is unemployed. We're definitely running full steam down the road to it though. Thus the "If".
[15:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:53] <exec> 08└─You're idiot. If everybody stays at home in quarantine two weeks, then everybody who is not seek can get out. During that time, whoever is sick can get treated in isolation.
[15:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Opportunist [5545] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:55] <exec> 08└─People with non-COVID illnesses do not get help in time, with hospitals and doctors' offices denied to them, and either die at home or have the condition (such as cancer) progress to terminal, to do their dying a little bit later.
[15:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:58] <exec> 08└─You really should take an economics course, socialist boy. Government money is not magical leprechaun gold. It either has to be taken from someone else or printed and thus taken from everyone. Wealth is created by valued human effort and cannot be miracled up by any government.
[15:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Opportunist [5545] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:00] <exec> 08└─Well, I don't know whether we don't know. Judging from Europe there seems to be a way to solve this. Maybe not perfect, but at least it kinda keeps stuff going so far.
[15:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:02] <exec> 08└─You can fuck right off and die with that #fakenews mod idea. We are not going to turn mods into meaningless tags by introducing any non-noise categories of downmod so that your abuse of the mod system is vindicated.
[15:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 2439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:21] <exec> 08└─It's the same, in both. It's not parallel worlds as such - that would be further dimensions like ours that are out there running other universes like ours. Just extra dimensions to our own. It's like earth people suddenly realising they could go "up" rather than just along the lay of the land. It's...
[15:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:36] <exec> 08└─There are treatments that may help to slow down the progress. With an early diagnostic you can start sooner a treatment. The sooner you start the treatment in early phases, the better. So you may have an acceptable quality of life until 75 years old instead of until 65.
[15:25:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03istartedi [123] 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 1044 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:57] <exec> 08└─I have no worries about C4U alcohol-based hand sanitizer. It's made by Gulf Coast Distillers, a US company which also makes potable alcohol. I figure those two things combined make it very unlikely to have that problem. I've run through about half my supply since this all started and I'm obviously n...
[15:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:07] <exec> 08└─Consumers are advised to dispose of the product immediately in hazardous waste containers, rather than flushing or pouring the product down the drain. Health Canada recalls some hand sanitizers over industrial-grade ethanol content There have been no reported illnesses connected to the...
[15:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Selects SpaceX Crew-2 Astronauts; Launch Planned to Reuse Dragon Capsule and Falcon 9 Booster - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:24] <exec> 08└─Looking at the cost it took for us to actually do what we did, it's a wonder, we did it at all. https://www.planetary.org [planetary.org] The amazing thing is we have a private, commercial space program, that actually makes money and saves NASA money. As opposed to the pr...
[15:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Zealand Publishes Algorithm Charter for Government Use of Algorithms and Data - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:58] <exec> 08└─I should hope it would be easier for NZ, an island nation, to stop the spread of COVID-19 or avoid it altogether. So, how's that Kim Dotcom thing going? Sent him packing to the US, yet? Good thing you sent armed forces to his mansion to make sure he knew where his place was. Yes, it was at the behes...
[15:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:13] <exec> 08└─Citations are hard to come by. Credible citations are harder yet. I did mention in another discussion that the US government are masters at money laundering. Our federal agencies move money by the truckload into projects that were never authorized by government. Billionaires are also masters at laun...
[15:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:15] <exec> 08└─Conservatives are educated, intelligent, refined, much better behaved.
[15:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:17] <exec> 08└─Either version will behave the same way if the value is neither "white" nor "black"; you just save the extra jump in the "black" case.
[15:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:19] <exec> 08└─If you just want to get the skills themselves, you go to a 2-year/trade school; if you want to be a more well-rounded person, you go 4-year. Or at least that's what I've always heard. I was actually somewhat interested in the Race, Class, and Gender course I took in college, up until the first week...
[15:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Identify a Cat in the UK Infected With SARS-CoV-2 - 819 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:56] <exec> 08└─> Among the 77 patients, 66 did not transmit to others, and 7 transmitted to 8 others and were designated as associated with superspreading. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] > The distribution of individual R values was highly over-dispersed, with 80% of infections bei...
[15:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 1475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:48] <exec> 08└─uPNP is a stupid idea. Turn it off on your router. On your local network, UPNP can be used for clients to discover each other on the local subnet. No problem. Your Chromecast will find your NAS, or your XBOX will find your router. What's STUPID is the part of uPNP that sits on the router and - and t...
[15:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:16] <exec> 08└─No, it's not. Never heard "there boy who cried wolf"?
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[16:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:35] <exec> 08└─The proposed law would prohibit platforms from expressing a "discernable viewpoint" on their own platforms. It's no different from regulating what a newspaper decides to publish in its editorial section.
[16:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PaperNoodle [10908] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 1057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:37] <exec> 08└─I think this is the proposed bill [senate.gov]. For those interested in reading the bill. I haven't read all of it but it does encompass many issues. I am not sure if that is a good thing or not. There has been other bills [house.gov] proposed that are smaller and more understandable. When it comes...
[16:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:39] <exec> 08└─Turns out it's just you. I wasn't hoping for that, but you really came through. Newspapers publish content *written by others* in their editorial section. This is exactly the same as regulating what they choose to publish.
[16:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:41] <exec> 08└─It's all just double talk anyway. They just want to be able to sue websites where the comments say things they don't like. They're going for the exact opposite of freedom of speech while sticking to their plan of just blatantly lying about everything.
[16:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:43] <exec> 08└─As bad as the current situation is, all of the alternatives are worse.
[16:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 1669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:45] <exec> 08└─No, you can't file a libel suit for speech that never existed or that the provider removes (censoring and banning). You can only sue for libel on something which has been published. Now if a publisher publishes something then they are a publisher. "Free speech" has only ever applied to government, n...
[16:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:48] <exec> 08└─Just remember, conservative who are cheering this on, SoylentNews is also protected by 230. And they also exercise editorial control over what gets published so if this gets repealed, and someone posts copyrighted material in a comment, this site can be sued out of existence very easily. YAY FREEDOM...
[16:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:50] <exec> 08└─And all newspapers I've ever studied about state they have an express right to edit your words for space constraints or any other reason, too. It's happened to me when I've written letters to an editor that they get reworked a little, although they still preserved my position and my argument. This s...
[16:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:52] <exec> 08└─Editorial control changing what you wrote somehow affects that it's still a user-submitted editorial, I meant - it is, even if it is edited. Then again, newspapers also require the writer to identify themselves sufficiently that you can be held liable for the content you wrote.
[16:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:54] <exec> 08└─There's no chance this holds up in court.
[16:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 898 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:57] <exec> 08└─So, basically, they want to reduce the legal protections for *all* moderation. Because moderation by its very nature *always* has a discernible viewpoint - even if it's just "porn is not acceptable here". Or no fiction. Maybe they just don't want to come out and say "political bias", but even if the...
[16:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:29] <exec> 08└─This "study" they're doing is too small to have double blind tests and placebo treatments. Even with large trials some diseases are so serious that it's considered unethical to give placebos. On top of that, immunity isn't always a black and white thing that just works or doesn't. Sometimes immune r...
[16:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:31] <exec> 08└─No, that's not how control groups work. If you don't bring the control group in to check for matching examation, you've learned nothing about comparable infection rates(not that a sample size of fucking 1 would tell you anything on the intervention group either). You've learned nothing at all. Which...
[16:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:33] <exec> 08└─The phenomenon you're talking about works for coating surfaces outside the body, it's utterly ineffective from within because the quantity you'd need to take to reproduce the effects would be beyond toxicity by several orders of magnitude.
[16:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jiro [3176] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:46] <exec> 08└─"Here are examples of businesses that are doing well" is not "business, in general, are doing well". Your butcher and fabric store are atypical.
[16:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:47] <exec> 08└─Government money is not magical leprechaun gold.
[16:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:50] <exec> 08└─You are assuming a tax based on labor. Time to tax capital, and the people who have the most.
[16:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:52] <exec> 08└─That was a potential statistic, thus the "If", dumbass.
[16:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:54] <exec> 08└─> Statistics like: "Most of your tax base is unemployed?" Definitions are important here. Who is the "tax base"? If it's "people between 18 and 66 years old", I think that USA has always been in this condition (maybe someone has data?). If we add in "able bodied people" to take off anyone disabled (...
[16:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:56] <exec> 08└─Capital is labor.
[16:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:58] <exec> 08└─That's not how that works. Printing bonds doesn't decrease currency value when the bonds mature, it does so immediately.
[16:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:00] <exec> 08└─> Time to tax capital, and the people who have the most. If this happens, I see a surge in the mattress-cover business as well as the $100 bill-printing-business and precious-metals... as people squirrel away capital to keep it out of the stock markets and banks (where it can easily be measured).
[16:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:03] <exec> 08└─You need to not call others idiots when your solution is to eradicate the virus from $region and call everything solved. It doesn't solve anything. Not at all. It merely postpones it. And not for very long given the ease of contagion of this particular virus.
[16:25:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:05] <exec> 08└─> I think think it's interesting how Economists suddenly became a trusted group of experts... Well they are experts in economics. By dedicating a large part of your life to learning and doing something and achieving some recognition for it, you become an expert. Many experts of course do take the sh...
[16:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:07] <exec> 08└─> The instant they start the money starts decreasing in value and it keeps decreasing as long as they keep giving it out. Time to check the price of your grocery bills and fuel (gasoline) bills. Have they been going up? How about other purchases? Mine (NE USA) have not. I don't see any current sign...
[16:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:09] <exec> 08└─So, pulled out of your ass. Please wash it.
[16:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:11] <exec> 08└─No, capital is a bank note, profiting through usury
[16:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:13] <exec> 08└─Well, let me put it this way: only the restaurants and cinemas closed in my area. Speaking about the restaurants, only those that don't do takeaway. Yes, the business district is hurt a lot more [abc.net.au] than my suburb and the township nearby.
[16:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 1296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:16] <exec> 08└─Your problem is that you have drank the coolaid the rich parasites have been pushing. The massive tax cuts for the rich cost more than short-term nationalizing payroll, but I don't remember you posting about being upset about fiscal irresponsibility when the tax giveaways were announced. And, short-...
[16:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:18] <exec> 08└─Cherry pick some more immediate-term statistics when talking about medium-term policy. Maybe you'll convince someone.
[16:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:20] <exec> 08└─Nope. When you engineer a medium term economic disaster, no short term solutions will be anything more than a bandaid.
[16:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:22] <exec> 08└─> If everybody stays at home in quarantine two weeks Are you a physicist? We are not talking spherical cows here, and many people can't stay at home no matter how strict the lockdown measures put in place. For just one obvious example, health care workers have to take a break, they can't stay in the...
[16:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:24] <exec> 08└─Well they are experts in economics.
[16:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:27] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is childish, weak, and cowardly to silence opinions you don't like. Respond should always be the preferred response, and if you don't have the time or energy to do that, ignore.
[16:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:29] <exec> 08└─In the sense that speaking of the future from observing the past is pulling something out of your ass, yes, all predictive conversations are pulled from asses.
[16:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:31] <exec> 08└─No, capital is labor. All of it. Always. It is labor that someone valued and gave you an abstract token for in lieu of a return good or service. It doesn't matter if it's pictures of dead presidents, Nuka Cola bottle caps, or lumps of gold.
[16:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:33] <exec> 08└─You need to not call others idiots when your solution is to eradicate the virus from $region and call everything solved. It doesn't solve anything. Not at all. It merely postpones it. And not for very long given the ease of contagion of this particular virus.
[16:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:36] <exec> 08└─I can't help feel a loss of potential comedy at using meat packing plants here instead of fudge packing ones.
[16:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:38] <exec> 08└─Maybe try making the point in a calm and logical manner without resorting to childish namecalling?
[16:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:40] <exec> 08└─Nope, they are mere promissory notes, derivatives, traded like baseball cards, nothing to do with labor at all.
[16:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:42] <exec> 08└─While I appreciate that is a more thorough answer, it still neglects the undeniable fact that any eradication of a virus this easy to spread is going to be so extremely short-lived as to be pointless unless it's also accompanied by universal disbursement of an effective anti-viral medication, vaccin...
[16:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:44] <exec> 08└─OMG, tell me there is no shortage of fudge to pack!! ROFLMAO
[16:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:47] <exec> 08└─No. You are wrong. Governments cannot miracle up money to solve the problem
[16:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:49] <exec> 08└─From you, to me, today: Re: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] You wanted a mod ban so you could cry abuse? Well, there you go. Feel free to try to justify it to anyone on the admin team with an email to admin@soylenenews.org but I wouldn't...
[16:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:51] <exec> 08└─Absolutely wrong. Capitalism handles pandemics just fine: just ask South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia. Even Germany did ok. *American capitalism*, on the other hand, can't handle pandemics at all.
[16:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:53] <exec> 08└─Judging from Europe there seems to be a way to solve this. Maybe not perfect, but at least it kinda keeps stuff going so far. The solution is really pretty obvious. All you have to do is have a government composed of people who aren't complete lunatics and incompetent morons. If you elect a governme...
[16:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:55] <exec> 08└─Printing bonds doesn't decrease currency value when the bonds mature, it does so immediately.
[16:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 1010 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:57] <exec> 08└─For one, it isn't two weeks. It would be two weeks as many times over as there are people who are cohabiting that location that have any symptoms (months in some cases). And those who realize they are sick after the quarantine starts would not be able to seek care, since they likely won't have the n...
[16:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:00] <exec> 08└─Can't. People would think someone had stolen my login cookie.
[16:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:05] <exec> 08└─I suggest you ask Herman Cain about that. Oh wait, you can't, he's dead.
[16:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I was pretty shocked that such a "feature" existed on a box that amounts to 99% of my home cybersecurity plan. It's the sort of thing that should come with a BLACKBOX warning on page 1 of the manual, repeating at the start of the chapter it's in, again on the page, along with a flashing red me...
[16:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Science Identifies the Ancient Enzyme in Bacteria That Makes Humans' Body Odor So Pungent - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:22] <exec> 08└─SN ran an article several years ago about BO and mate selection in humans.
[16:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:14] <exec> 08└─You mean... We should all live like we're in the ghetto? Where cops are afraid to go, and everyone is armed for their own protection?
[16:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Agency: Pandemic Masks Thwarting Face Recognition Tech - 2294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:16] <exec> 08└─How much do you want here? Yes, cops should be fearful of accosting people at random. There have been so many bullshit examples of shit policing in this country. New York's 'Stop and Frisk' leads as a fascist as well as racist policy. The cops should have been fearful of throwing every second or thi...
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[17:22:53] <exec> 08└─Big tech companies have used 230 to become the richest most powerful corporations in the world. With a bait and a switch. "We like freedom of speech". Now? Removing communication from the government whether that be from Trumps twitter or dropping CSPAN on youtube because a politician said THE NAME T...
[17:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:54] <exec> 08└─No, you can't file a libel suit for speech that never existed or that the provider removes (censoring and banning). You can only sue for libel on something which has been published. Now if a publisher publishes something then they are a publisher.
[17:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:56] <exec> 08└─Whatever happens the result should be more freedom for people. I thought liberals stood for the little guy? When did they become the party of corporations?
[17:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:58] <exec> 08└─If Twitter and Facebook choose to censor, edit, ban an individual's free speech, then they are a publisher with editorial control and liable to libel suits.
[17:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 2342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:00] <exec> 08└─A very fair point. Most of the early internet was 'the gentlemans agreement'. Basically do not act like a prick and you are cool. The existing 230 basically put that into law. However, the DNC decided to dropkick the GOP off the internet. There are videos of insiders talking about exactly that. They...
[17:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:03] <exec> 08└─I thought liberals stood for the little guy?
[17:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:05] <exec> 08└─However, the DNC decided to dropkick the GOP off the internet.
[17:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:07] <exec> 08└─There is nothing to "adjust". There is no right to regulate or sanction content on the internet, but technically it is far too easy to regulate.
[17:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03maggotbrain [6063] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:09] <exec> 08└─Techdirt's Mike Masnick wrote up an approachable summary/explanation on Section 230 that, personally, I think should be required reading on the matter: Hello! You've Been Referred Here Because You're Wrong About Section 230 Of The Communications Decency Act [techdirt.com]
[17:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:44] <exec> 08└─We aren't waiting for a vaccine, its being warp drived.
[17:23:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:45] <exec> 08└─All he needs to do is get antibody tested before, take the vaccine, then get tested after. No giant double blind trial with control group needed.
[17:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:48] <exec> 08└─The only thing is proves is that it isn't absolutely fucking lethal.
[17:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Economists Warn of 'Widespread Costs' from Lockdown - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:35] <exec> 08└─What that proves is that most people are in fact stupid. I'm not so sure of that. I think it proves that most *Americans* are in fact stupid, as seen by the ridiculous case and death counts here. The same goes in Brazil BTW, so it's not entirely exclusive to America. In countries with smarter popula...
[17:28:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Booga1 [6333] 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 132 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:38] <exec> 08└─Who is preventing the local and state governments from doing their jobs and answering the people's demands, so everyone can go home?
[17:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:50] <exec> 08└─All good points but you cite a single anomaly- that's not the norm, average, mean, whatever word the statisticians want to use. That guy was alt-right, and as I already wrote, they're not part of mainstream conservatives. For all I know they're likely Soros plants to make the conservatives look bad....
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[18:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Once Considered Lost, ESA and NASA's SOHO Came Back From the Brink of Death - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:41] <exec> 08└─Read RTFA. It really is good and amazing piece of space drama.
[18:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:16] <exec> 08└─It is a shame that the big companies abused those protections that this has become an issue that threatens smaller players. Any change should maximize freedom and protections for those not abusing their positions to exert undue influence and control over nations and people. Without addressing this i...
[18:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:17] <exec> 08└─newspapers have discernable viewpoints, *especially* in their editorial sections.
[18:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:19] <exec> 08└─Just like speech, the answer to bad platforms is more platforms.
[18:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:57] <exec> 08└─It's a no-go.
[18:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:59] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the ones that start with viruses in labs that lose containment.
[18:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:01] <exec> 08└─People are using meth to make sudafed https://www.semanticscholar.org [semanticscholar.org]
[18:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:03] <exec> 08└─Obviously you don't know the difference between effectiveness and efficacy.
[18:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:05] <exec> 08└─Hey look, you're testing neither of those. Wow! So impressive! No controlled laboratory experiment. No longitudinal population data with matched measurements. A complete absence of useful information! Hooray! We should do a controlled experiment to see if it's possible to differentiate your brain fr...
[18:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:00] <exec> 08└─Globalization and Chinese economic integration in particular gave us the Wuhan flu.
[18:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Will Keep 200,000 Workers Home Through Next Summer - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:54] <exec> 08└─Then why not do that anyway? If that's your goal, you would never need the Google WFH to happen to start your search.
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[19:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vulnerability in the Zoom Web Client That Allowed Checking if a Password is Correct for a Meeting - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:34] <exec> 08└─I mean, it's not like anyone's actually using MS Teams, but we got an e-mail that told us, we should use Teams. You know, since they already pay for it, with their site license. Don't mind the fact that every official meeting attended, still uses Zoom.
[19:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:19] <exec> 08└─If you don't like what the site or service you're using is doing, quit using it.
[19:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:21] <exec> 08└─Your comment is about the explosive growth of "cancel culture" assholes that can't just control their own behavior, they have to control everyone else's. For them, it is not enough to avoid a service, product, or person. They harass and bully everyone they even perceive as remotely connected to what...
[19:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:23] <exec> 08└─I would see USER moderation as a non-issue. The issue is Corporate moderation.
[19:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:25] <exec> 08└─Why should a print publisher today be liable for what an author they have printed has written?
[19:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:27] <exec> 08└─There's no chance this holds up in court. LOL -- S230 didn't codify a law of the universe and removing an opt-in immunity clause is not something that these companies would be able to somehow magically will into being. All the law does is give privileges to certain companies by protecting them the e...
[19:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:29] <exec> 08└─Insightful grouping: Robber Barons, Company Towns, Social Media The first two are easily seen for the disgusting abuse they were. The last will be seen that way 100 years hence, and some will see it now.
[19:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:32] <exec> 08└─we've broken up monopolies before and can do it again. We just need a Teddy and a big ass stick.
[19:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:34] <exec> 08└─No, but you could sue Twitter if some person on Twitter called you a racist.
[19:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:17] <exec> 08└─Legacy medicine had its time, but it is on the way out: https://www.nature.com [nature.com]
[19:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:19] <exec> 08└─In the worst case they can obtain superpowers and get a lifetime job at Marvel or DC.
[19:26:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 1198 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:17] <exec> 08└─NO!!!!! It does not "beg the question"! In that case, it would just be arguing in a circle! Like, "the universe is deterministic because everything in it is necessary consequence of a cause". That is question begging. Or, "things happen for no reason, because there is no reason for things to happen...
[19:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Simulating Quantum 'Time Travel' Disproves Butterfly Effect in Quantum Realm - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:28] <exec> 08└─What he really needs is a mirror
[19:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:17] <exec> 08└─There were also 600,000 Americans killed in the civil war, over 4 years making it the bloodiest war (for Americans) in our history. Currently, Covid is outpacing it at 150,000 in 0.5 years. MAGA?
[19:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:28] <exec> 08└─that's just b/c being a serial killer requires some planning, delayed reward, intelligence, etc.
[19:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rite Aid Deployed Facial Recognition Systems in Hundreds of U.S. Stores - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:29] <exec> 08└─lmao! what a fucking idiot. they are brainwashed against their own race, so they see Whitey's injustice everywhere and are trying to prove what good people they are by defending "the poor helpless blacks" (who are just like everyone else), but who need these brainwashed brats' help somehow.
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[20:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:26] <exec> 08└─SoylentNews is a centralized platform and it will be destroyed eventually. Everyone will end up on decentralized platforms or give up on free speech. Killing Section 230 just speeds up the process.
[20:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:27] <exec> 08└─True history is not a troll. Man -- the mod system is insane recently. I know we aren't supposed to bitch about modding, but like nazi and racist have become meaningless terms, so too is "troll" or "flamebait" going the same route.
[20:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:30] <exec> 08└─In the past, most countries did not call their bandits a "culture" and let them go their merry way. Russia did, and ended up ruled by them. Let that be a lesson to be learned, not an example to be followed.
[20:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 1487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:32] <exec> 08└─""Free speech" has only ever applied to government, not private, sanction upon speech." A lot of people make that argument, and it is complete bullshit. It is the argument that allows quasi-state agencies to abuse civil rights while hiding behind the trade clause. The 13th and 14th pretty clearly mi...
[20:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:34] <exec> 08└─Review the link to Mike Masnick's blog below, where he touches on this. While Congress could have left Internet publishers alone and never created Section 230, they didn't. Just because Section 230 did not always exist does not mean that changes to it are exempt from First Amendment scrutiny. Congre...
[20:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:36] <exec> 08└─Meh, Mike went native a long time ago. He had some undestanding of the tech, but never at a very deep level. Now he is mostly just management, and his views are accordingly divorced from the reality on the ground. Both technically, and legally speaking.
[20:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:39] <exec> 08└─As such, your view doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given that the First Amendment *does not apply to private parties*, only to the government.
[20:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:41] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you've noticed, but that ship sailed in the US long before Trump got elected. Pork barrel projects, bill riders and earmarks, bailouts for the "too big to fail" companies, and so on. Kinda getting off topic though.
[20:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:26] <exec> 08└─O, it's probably quite effective, where it's applied. But getting metallic copper spread throughout your body...even if it weren't toxic the application would probably kill you. But it *is* sort of magic against diseases. That's why coins are relatively safe as cash. (Although, I'm told that even o...
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[20:24:27] <exec> 08└─Trying to ban stupidity is a part of it. In the chemistry labs I was in the ban was on eating and drinking anything. Didn't matter if it was your own sandwiches. Open a sealed bottle of coke and take a swig. Rules violation, out the door. If you were thirsty you washed up and went out to the break r...
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[20:27:26] <exec> 08└─Wow, I've heard this. Either that was not uncommon, or my 8th grade history teacher's unit came upon your grandfather's party just after the horror began. It was probably a big deal at the time.
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[21:22:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 311 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:58] <exec> 08└─Just remember, conservative who are cheering this on, SoylentNews is also protected by 230. And they also exercise editorial control over what gets published so if this gets repealed, and someone posts copyrighted material in a comment, this site can be sued out of existence very easily. YAY FREEDOM...
[21:23:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maggotbrain [6063] 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 272 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:12] <exec> 08└─Techdirt's Mike Masnick wrote up an approachable summary/explanation on Section 230 that, personally, I think should be required reading on the matter: Hello! You've Been Referred Here Because You're Wrong About Section 230 Of The Communications Decency Act [techdirt.com]
[21:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:32] <exec> 08└─I wish you to never learn firsthand the difference between tame corruptioners and actual genuine bandits.
[21:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:33] <exec> 08└─Revoking S230 is not an impingement in speech. It is simply the removal of a block against the consequences of speech.
[21:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:36] <exec> 08└─In typical fashion they also don't consider what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. Imagine a site like Conservapedia or Parler being legally liable for objectionable 3rd party content on it's site! Oh my! Content they didn't create, but merely didn't detect. Section 230 should be about pro...
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[21:23:38] <exec> 08└─I can find vids of Obama praising it. I can find videos of top Google people crying about 'orange man elected'. I can find vids of internal people at facebook saying they are just deleting conservative posts. Your pathetic sith tricks do not work on me. Remember Twitter does not shadowban people. Be...
[21:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:40] <exec> 08└─Leave it up to whoever owns the platform. Better for people to not rely on centralized services and develop interoperable protocols so users can share without giving up ownership or control of their data. Seriously, there is zero need to use fb/twitter/whatever. No one is guaranteed a platform, that...
[21:23:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:42] <exec> 08└─Poor victim!
[21:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:44] <exec> 08└─However, the DNC decided to dropkick the GOP off the internet. There are videos of insiders talking about exactly that.
[21:23:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:46] <exec> 08└─I can find vids of Obama praising it. I can find videos of top Google people crying about 'orange man elected'. I can find vids of internal people at facebook saying they are just deleting conservative posts.
[21:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:48] <exec> 08└─Again, for all you idiots, removing 230 will result in many users being outright banned and INCREASED censorship as corporations install filters toprevent being liable for anything. I am floored that you are being hoodwinked like this. Soon they'll wring their hands and say sooorrry you got deplatfo...
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[21:23:51] <exec> 08└─Individuals being shitty is not a conspiracy. The rightwing pundits have turned you formerly reasonable people into hate filled sacks of propaganda. You generate a reality distortion field so intense that you actually LIKE Donald Trump. Wtf?
[21:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 1621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:53] <exec> 08└─Because you're obviously a moron, I'll repost a section of the Techdirt bit that Maggotbrain referred to. Hello! You've Been Referred Here Because You're Wrong About Section 230 Of The Communications Decency Act [techdirt.com] Unless you're one of the people who is purposefully saying wrong things a...
[21:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:55] <exec> 08└─Then you're by necessity going to have a lot of users looking at kiddie-porn and worse.
[21:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:57] <exec> 08└─Secondly, there's nothing stopping Congress from limiting corporations from behaving in certain ways -- or do you want to let companies decide who to hire and fire or serve to be based on race, religion, etc.? Because when you argue above, you are arguing for that. It's all the same thing -- it's an...
[21:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:59] <exec> 08└─When said corporations purchase laws to their benefit and to the detriment of the people,
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[21:24:46] <exec> 08└─N-of-1 trials are not the same thing as giving yourself an untested, unproven, and experimental vaccine.
[21:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:48] <exec> 08└─A great saying you should learn (as in embrace and act on): "Perfect is the enemy of good". https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:50] <exec> 08└─It is the exact same thing. Am I immune? Take antibody test: No. Take untested, unproven, experimental vaccine. Wait 2 weeks. Am I immune? Take antibody test: Yes. Now vaccine is tested and proven to work in one person. If the last answer was "no", then you would need to try again.
[21:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Blood Test Shows Great Promise in the Diagnosis of Alzheimer's Disease - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:15] <exec> 08└─http://www.yalescientific.org/2016/04/sniffing-out-alzheimers-olfaction-as-a-diagnostic-and-research-tool/ [yalescientific.org]
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[22:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:31] <exec> 08└─I did not read "Big Deck"
[22:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:32] <exec> 08└─If it's like most Chinese crap it'll stop working in 2-3 days, and when the captain tries to contact the manufacturer for warranty work he'll find they've changed their name.
[22:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:35] <exec> 08└─How Freudian of you.
[22:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:37] <exec> 08└─They'll soon find that the prop plans they stole from USA was altered for reverse thrust and massive cavitation.
[22:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:39] <exec> 08└─Amphibian envy - have you ever seen a whale mate?
[22:23:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 251 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:11] <exec> 08└─It's all just double talk anyway. They just want to be able to sue websites where the comments say things they don't like. They're going for the exact opposite of freedom of speech while sticking to their plan of just blatantly lying about everything.
[22:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:01] <exec> 08└─SoylentNews editors do exercise editorial control of the stories that are posted. Although, the comments are not moderated by the administrators or editors at all. So any of the proposals so far wouldn't really impact this site unless the editors posted the offending material to the front page. Of c...
[22:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:03] <exec> 08└─Again, see my previous post. "You're not being arrested. It's simply the removal of your being able to go home."
[22:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:05] <exec> 08└─Teddy was a Republican.
[22:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:07] <exec> 08└─Watch how all the news orgs suddenly change what they say about 'protesters' to suddenly being 'agitators and white supremacists'. That is happening right now before you eyes.
[22:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:09] <exec> 08└─The fact that this comment is modded troll really highlights who the facists are. They cant have debate, they just suppress speech they dont like. This is why these things are changing. Tech and media are for everyone, not just little wankers.
[22:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:00] <exec> 08└─A shame you were one of the 1 in 20 people that the vaccine doesn't work for. You've just thrown out something that's effective for 95% of the population. Oh well.
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[22:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK/US Governments Warn of QNAP NAS Malware - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:45] <exec> 08└─The QNAP NAS did it, I am pretty sure.
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[23:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medieval Medicine Remedy Could Provide New Treatment for Modern Day Infections - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:27] <exec> 08└─Garlic and Onions are already known to have antimicrobial properties.
[23:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Opportunist [5545] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Medieval Medicine Remedy Could Provide New Treatment for Modern Day Infections - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:28] <exec> 08└─2001 BC Here, eat this root. 1000 AD That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer. 1850 AD That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion. 1920 AD That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill. 1945 AD That pill is ineffective. Here, take this penicillin. 1955 AD Oops... bugs mutated....
[23:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Type 075 Big Deck Amphib Preparing for Sea Trials - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:41] <exec> 08└─I won't write them off so quickly, nor so easily. To a large extent, every ship is just a big hunk of scrap. It's the men who make the ship what it is. Yeah, you can throw hi-tech around all day long, and American ingenuity, and whatever else you want to grasp at. It's the crew that makes the ship w...
[23:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:10] <exec> 08└─There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect...
[23:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:11] <exec> 08└─For their next trick watch them blame the riots on Trump. Watch how all the news orgs suddenly change what they say about 'protesters' to suddenly being 'agitators and white supremacists'. That is happening right now before you eyes.
[23:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:13] <exec> 08└─a massive conspiracy to...I don't know exactly, govern things incompetently?
[23:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:15] <exec> 08└─He begs the question that the law should be what it is. When people argue "online sites that moderate user provided content are liable for that content" it may not be a technically correct legal argument, but they also typically aren't lawyers. Many likely intended to say "online sites that moderate...
[23:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03maggotbrain [6063] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:18] <exec> 08└─Honestly, I think you are fundamentally misreading the general gist of an informational post that should be used as an informational post and not a legal point. I think that I can safely assume that you are not a lawyer and you have an axe to grind. *shrug* Can't help you buddy. Big fucking WHOOSH.
[23:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:20] <exec> 08└─Looking at it isn't the problem. People, despite recent assertions, are not fragile little snowflakes and can deal with insane amounts of unpleasant shit. Enjoying it is where the problem lies. That's not me arguing in favor of this idiotic bill, just saying you need to refine your argument.
[23:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Want a Truce With Section 230 Supporters - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:22] <exec> 08└─That's why everyone gets mod points. Log in and correct some bad ones.
[23:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:13] <exec> 08└─The rest of the world are already being monitored as closely as they'll allow. If you want them monitored any more closely you need to wait for the water to heat some more to boil that particular frog.
[23:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Some Scientists Are Taking a DIY Coronavirus Vaccine, and Nobody Knows If It's Legal or If It Works - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:14] <exec> 08└─You do your own n = 1 experiment if you want to make sure you get one that works for you. Doing an experiment taking the average is imprecision medicine, you never know if you are the 1/10 the treatment works for or the 9/10 it is a waste of time and money (or even dangerous).
[23:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mounting Poisonings, Blindness, Deaths as Toxic Hand Sanitizers Flood Market - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:13] <exec> 08└─Darwinism only applies when an activity or object is known to be dangerous, or when there's good reason for an individual to expect it to be. I don't know the specifics about the tank of alcohol (like whether there was something about it that might have tipped the survivors off that it was poisonous...
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