#Soylent | Logs for 2014-04-06
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[00:12:06] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Using Solar Power to Manufacture Solar Power! - http://sylnt.us - chicken-and-egg
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[00:25:26] <xlefay> lol
[00:27:27] <MrBluze> hi xlefay, stderr
[00:27:36] * MrBluze likes the staff slash
[00:27:51] <xlefay> hi MrBluze, how are you?
[00:27:52] <stderr> Hi.
[00:28:41] <MrBluze> better :) how bout u?
[00:28:48] <xlefay> I'm semi-here, quite busy today.
[00:28:54] <MrBluze> ok fair enough
[00:29:01] <xlefay> busy haha :P
[00:29:01] <MrBluze> !todo
[00:29:01] <SlimShady> todo for mrbluze: 1) Go through bugtracker and update missing bugs 2) make Chillax logo 3) NFP Proposal in Mail List 4) Communications Proposal on Chillax
[00:29:21] <MrBluze> 4 things is doable in one day
[00:32:08] <xlefay> Oh my, I've got mod points.
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[00:48:08] <MrBluze> hmm.. could not reconnect despite my network being up
[00:51:20] <xlefay> I need to make dinner, bbl
[00:58:52] <MrBluze> okay
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[01:01:42] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Minnowboard Max: Open-Source Computer from Intel - http://sylnt.us - something-tells-me-this-isnt-totally-open
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[01:06:00] <Titanium> Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error
[01:06:00] <Titanium> +1 (Informative) Details (1102-26754, 5 points left)
[01:06:00] <Titanium> Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error Internal SAN check blew up checking moderation rights. Please let the powers that be know how and where you recieved this error
[01:06:10] <Titanium> did your storage blow up?
[01:08:13] <crutchy> oooh do we have another saga?
[01:08:53] <crutchy> i think "san" in this case refers to sanity... mine blows up regularly so i can understand how the server feels
[01:09:43] * Titanium runs from the insane computer
[01:09:50] <MrBluze> ouch
[01:10:02] * Titanium tripps the other people so i am in front :)
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[01:38:54] <arti> First Post about escaping?
[01:39:25] <crutchy> i like escaping from reality
[01:42:24] <MrBluze> lol
[01:42:30] <MrBluze> crutchy: did u get assimilated yet?
[01:43:29] <SpallsHurgenson> remember, today is Charge Your Old Devices day. Old phones, old cameras, old tablets - everything gets a charge! Plug 'em in, plug 'em in!
[01:45:25] * SpallsHurgenson plays with his old Palm PDA... with a whopping 32MB memory!
[01:47:08] * MrBluze looks at his not-so old google nexus 7
[01:47:20] <MrBluze> havent touched it in 12 months .. maybe i should put linux on it
[01:48:35] <crutchy> hasn't it already got linux on it mrbluze?
[01:48:46] <MrBluze> android
[01:48:52] <MrBluze> its not open
[01:48:59] <crutchy> no
[01:49:23] <MrBluze> havent looked into it
[01:49:26] <crutchy> but if you can peel away the layers of closed shiny evil, there is a beacon of hope at the core :-P
[01:50:01] <SpallsHurgenson> today I learned the sony psp does not support WPA2 wireless authentication... and apparently the official recommendation/solution is to use WEP :)
[01:50:19] <MrBluze> SpallsHurgenson: old code
[01:50:22] <crutchy> well if sony uses it, it must be safe :-D
[01:50:27] <MrBluze> yeah there's some hope
[01:51:07] <SpallsHurgenson> ehn, the firmware was last updated in late 2011; WEP was known to be vulnerable for a long time even then
[01:51:34] <MrBluze> .. still old code
[01:51:37] * crutchy crutchy abandons wpa2 cos there was a soylent article on vulnerabilities and jumps on the wep bandwagon with sony at the helm :-P
[01:51:39] <MrBluze> they never fixed it
[01:51:45] <MrBluze> lol
[01:51:52] <crutchy> lol i will never get the hang of this irc shit
[01:53:00] <MrBluze> ;)
[01:57:09] <SpallsHurgenson> Eureka! I found the thing I was looking for
[01:57:54] <Teckla> Any sci-fi readers here?
[01:58:43] <SpallsHurgenson> does the Twilight series count? :)
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[01:59:32] * Teckla chuckles
[02:00:03] * SpallsHurgenson twinkles
[02:02:25] <crutchy> sci-fi++
[02:02:30] <crutchy> scifi++
[02:02:30] <SlimShady> karma - scifi: 1
[02:02:44] <crutchy> skiffi :-P
[02:03:24] <SpallsHurgenson> syfy! Now with more pro-wrestling!
[02:04:30] <sea> Teckla: You called?
[02:05:50] * SpallsHurgenson reads sci-fi despite being completely illiterate
[02:06:13] <crutchy> just like i "read" porn eh?
[02:06:19] <SpallsHurgenson> (or should that be "because"?)
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[02:13:07] <Teckla> I was about to ask for help finding the name and author of a certain book I read in the 1980s, but just happened to find it moments ago
[02:13:33] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, I wanted to play "guess that book"!
[02:15:47] <sea> Teckla: Let's play anyway
[02:15:56] <sea> Teckla: What can you tell us about the story?
[02:16:23] <SpallsHurgenson> was it "Phylogenesis" by Alan Dean Foster?
[02:17:18] <SpallsHurgenson> was it "The Nonborn King" by Julian May?
[02:17:56] <SpallsHurgenson> was it "Callahan's Lady" by Spider Robinson?
[02:20:41] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Google Stock Split Complete - http://sylnt.us - google-share-price-spike-expected
[02:26:44] <Teckla> sea: It's about a man who dies, but then lives his life again (with all his original life memories intact). And again, and again, and again.
[02:27:00] <Teckla> sea: But each time, the part of his life he relives is shorter and shorter, although he keeps dying at the same point.
[02:27:59] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, that sounds familiar.
[02:28:00] <sea> I don't think that I know that one. Which book is that?
[02:28:04] * SpallsHurgenson bangs head on nearby wall
[02:29:07] <Teckla> Replay by Ken Grimwood. I'd like to re-read it (nostalgia, etc.) but even the Kindle ebook price seems a little steep at $8.
[02:29:49] <Teckla> I'm just finishing up Robopocalypse now, which is a decent read. What are you folks reading at the moment?
[02:30:30] * SpallsHurgenson was just about to say Replay. Honest, I was!
[02:31:40] <sea> Teckla: A lot of non-fiction, apparently
[02:32:02] <sea> Looking at the 'stack of books to read' to my right:
[02:33:00] <sea> "The world of night", "Oceanography and marine biology", "Isaac Asimov: The best mysteries of Isaac Asimov", "A structural approach to chemistry", "the philosophy of mathematics", "Frege, dedekind, and peano on the fondations of arithmetic", and something on classical mechanics that needs to be taken back
[02:33:14] <sea> The asimov mysteries are really good, though
[02:33:27] <sea> There's one at the back of the book that I really enjoyed
[02:33:39] <SpallsHurgenson> one of the books I am reading now is "portal: a dataspace retrieval" by Rob Swigart. Very 80s sci-fi, although not without some interesting ideas :)
[02:33:50] <Teckla> sea: The World *at* Night?
[02:35:17] <Teckla> SpallsHurgenson: That looks interesting
[02:35:46] <SpallsHurgenson> it's actually based on a computer game that I played on my apple][. :)
[02:36:04] <SpallsHurgenson> or the game was based on the book. I forget.
[02:36:13] <sea> Teckla: "The world of night". It's a fairly non-technical book that lists the behaviors of various animals in different biomes once night rises.
[02:36:14] * SpallsHurgenson bangs his head against the wall again
[02:36:30] <Teckla> sea: Ah, interesting
[02:36:36] <Teckla> SpallsHurgenson: According to Amazon, the book was based on the computer game.
[02:36:49] <sea> Teckla: Yeah, I learned a lot about bats, insects, birds, nocturnal mammals, and so on
[02:37:50] <sea> ...SN has a story about bacon on the front page
[02:37:53] <sea> Seriously?
[02:38:29] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, I saw that too. sort of annoyed me for some reason
[02:38:50] <SpallsHurgenson> it would be like /, having an article on hot grits... takes the joke too far
[02:40:02] <SpallsHurgenson> but I'm a humorless old curmudgeon so what do I know? :)
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[02:41:22] <Teckla> SpallsHurgenson: How old of a curmudgeon? :)
[02:41:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I find it easier to measure my age in Neptunian years :)
[02:42:06] <Teckla> haha
[02:42:14] <Teckla> Just wondering since I'm an old curmudgeon, too
[02:43:45] <SpallsHurgenson> you can be the elder, if you want. I grant you that privilege :)
[02:44:05] * Teckla <- 45 :(
[02:45:12] <SpallsHurgenson> 45 is old now?
[02:45:46] <Teckla> I tend to find myself the oldest or near oldest person on IRC channels
[02:46:30] <arti> "I actually know what privacy is!"
[02:47:48] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, all the kids will quickly realize the necessity of privacy in a decade or two :)
[02:48:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, it will probably be too late by then... but they'll understand why their elders valued it :)
[02:48:59] <arti> something that's fun to see in older pictures, nobody head down in a phone
[02:49:23] * sea looks up
[02:49:24] <sea> Huh?
[02:50:59] * Teckla chuckles
[02:51:02] * SpallsHurgenson has a dumb phone and thus has very little reason to ever look at it
[02:51:33] <Teckla> I love my dumbphone. $15 (unsubsidized), so no big loss if lost/broken/stolen. $5-$10 per month in pay-as-you-go minutes.
[02:52:28] <SpallsHurgenson> 'bout the same here, cept I got the "high-end" phone for $35 :)
[02:53:11] <Teckla> Luxury! ;)
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[02:55:02] * sea prepares an awesome level 5 tentacool for battle
[02:55:38] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... is somebody watching anime?
[02:57:24] * SpallsHurgenson has heard about that sort of thing :)
[02:57:42] <sea> I'm preparing for a pokemon tournament
[02:57:52] <sea> I'm going to lose, but I'll lose with style!
[02:57:59] * sea uses exclusively cute pokemon
[02:58:12] <sea> Which for some reason are always the weakest ones.
[03:00:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I gotta say, the whole notion of pokemon disgusted me when I first heard it; the "gotta catch 'em all" marketing push aimed at small children to buy the entire range of products.
[03:03:51] <sea> I prefer a "gotta catch 'em all" marketing push to the modern "Get it or you'll die of cancer!" fear-based marketing
[03:04:58] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, companies still use advertising? :)
[03:05:16] * SpallsHurgenson loves adblockers :)
[03:06:24] * arti points to google
[03:06:25] <SpallsHurgenson> it just occured to me that real-life adblockers would be the killer app for google-glass :)
[03:06:32] <SpallsHurgenson> google has ads?
[03:06:41] <arti> google: you are the product
[03:07:09] <arti> pretty cool: http://www.space.com
[03:11:26] <sea> That's why I wear my tinfoil hat
[03:11:33] * sea is wearing it right now
[03:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> asbestos, man! That's the real secret to keeping The Man out. Sure, they SAY it causes cancer, but that's just to keep you from using it!
[03:13:35] <crutchy> g'day arti
[03:13:53] <arti> greetings sir
[03:16:43] <n1> now who would submit a story with a reference link to the old site ¬_¬
[03:17:08] <arti> and on the old site, put a reference to the new
[03:17:15] <arti> [ SEO MASTERY ]
[03:17:25] <SpallsHurgenson> what, no love for pipedot?
[03:17:37] <MrBluze> whats happening to pipedot?
[03:17:58] <SpallsHurgenson> it's still there.
[03:18:41] <SpallsHurgenson> they had a story the other day which almost got 30 comments!
[03:19:30] <arti> :O
[03:19:34] <SpallsHurgenson> and they have no icons. Actually, I think they are nicer than the ones SN has
[03:20:36] <crutchy> pipedot running a bit slow
[03:20:55] <crutchy> it looks awesome though
[03:20:58] <crutchy> very sleek
[03:21:09] <crutchy> we need that guy on our style team
[03:21:24] <arti> :|
[03:21:27] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Harder Foods Reduce Energy Intake - http://sylnt.us - we-dont-eat-bacon-because-its-healthy
[03:21:28] <arti> progammer art
[03:21:48] <MrBluze> afaik they are generic icons from foss sources
[03:21:57] <MrBluze> many/most of them
[03:22:06] <arti> yo dawg, herd u like drop shadows
[03:22:09] <crutchy> i'm sure our style team can (and are) improving things, but the pipedot guy seems to know his way around css too
[03:22:18] <MrBluze> the look of pipedot is nice but we'll be reskinning everything
[03:22:20] <crutchy> drop shadows?
[03:22:33] <arti> they follow drop bears
[03:22:42] <MrBluze> drop shadows are css now
[03:23:04] <crutchy> dunno. drop bears only a concern if you're female
[03:23:18] <arti> anyway it's alright, reminds me of an mIRC theme LOLOL
[03:23:49] <n1> pipedot is all shiney and thats abou tit
[03:23:52] <n1> about it*
[03:23:57] <arti> tit /beavis
[03:24:02] <MrBluze> we havent touched the theme on sn since it started, really - because we need to clean up the css first
[03:24:04] <crutchy> it kinda works too though
[03:24:13] <n1> even got tit on my second attempt.
[03:24:14] <n1> :p
[03:24:15] * arti prefers getting functionality solid then adding lipstick
[03:24:16] <MrBluze> popedot is written from scratch afaik
[03:24:30] <MrBluze> arti++
[03:24:30] <SlimShady> karma - arti: 38
[03:24:33] <SpallsHurgenson> and by one guy
[03:24:41] <crutchy> i reckon we should make a language-independent system
[03:24:43] <MrBluze> lipstick is no good if you are still looking like a pig underneath
[03:24:46] <SpallsHurgenson> (heh, popedot, for the catholic geek :)
[03:24:51] <arti> the way projects seem to work, design team has their way, programming theirs, and then they all meet in the middle
[03:24:51] <crutchy> maybe a perl or php core
[03:25:03] <crutchy> but modules can be any language
[03:25:13] <arti> crutchy, let's do it in something obscure, like lisp
[03:25:13] <sea> The bacon thing for SN is really irritating
[03:25:44] <crutchy> using the approach that xlefay came up with you could write modules in bash, ruby, lisp, c, etc
[03:25:52] <MrBluze> bacon?
[03:25:56] <crutchy> all talking to the same core
[03:26:00] <crutchy> hmm
[03:26:12] <crutchy> not sure about how the core would execute bacon scripts
[03:26:21] <crutchy> had better ask kobach
[03:26:55] <arti> dude we should come up with a language
[03:26:58] <arti> bacon script
[03:27:01] <crutchy> lol
[03:27:19] <arti> maybe make a fork of go, make it more ... meaty
[03:27:31] <crutchy> an object pascal interpreter would be good enough for me
[03:27:37] <arti> "so the interpreter is known as pork to sausage"
[03:28:02] <arti> the scripts are called slices, and the debugger is known as Fry
[03:28:05] * crutchy senses this conversation could go downhill very quickly
[03:28:24] <arti> but the pub is down hill... surely you're alright with a walk down hill
[03:28:25] * sea takes off and hides the PETA T-shirt
[03:28:28] * crutchy tries to stop his mind from falling in gutter
[03:28:41] <arti> that's what you get for having an open mind
[03:28:42] <MrBluze> hmm
[03:28:43] <crutchy> yeah a pub downhill is good
[03:28:57] <arti> :O~
[03:29:06] <MrBluze> sea: where is the bacon thing for sn
[03:29:06] <crutchy> even better though is a pub uphill
[03:29:18] <crutchy> you can walk to the pub (sober)
[03:29:27] <crutchy> then when you're finished you just roll home
[03:29:32] <MrBluze> pipedot is ok.. but it's not striking enough to me .. i want SN to look better
[03:30:25] <arti> it'll happen
[03:30:34] * crutchy still thinks we should go all monospace
[03:30:49] <arti> well that's just like, your opinion, man
[03:30:57] <crutchy> yeah
[03:31:01] <arti> erm /dude
[03:31:02] <crutchy> dude
[03:31:04] <crutchy> lol
[03:31:09] <crutchy> sweet
[03:31:13] * arti highfives
[03:31:20] <crutchy> totally rad
[03:31:38] <crutchy> totally rapid application development
[03:31:44] <SirFinkus> we should have rainbow mode on the site as well
[03:31:50] <arti> ...
[03:31:56] <crutchy> and marquee
[03:32:04] <arti> and iframes
[03:32:11] <arti> lots of iframes
[03:32:12] <crutchy> nothing wrong with iframes
[03:32:18] <arti> unless you like seo
[03:32:20] <crutchy> hidden ones that track you
[03:32:22] <crutchy> lol
[03:32:38] <arti> we've upgraded to tracking images
[03:32:43] <arti> heck, even analytics has a tracking script
[03:32:50] <SirFinkus> flash cookies too
[03:32:57] <crutchy> i use the odd iframe
[03:33:04] <crutchy> for rpc
[03:33:10] <sea> COVERT THE SITE WITH PICTURES OF RAINBOW DASH
[03:33:16] <arti> analytics tracking script plugins*(
[03:33:16] <sea> SQUEEEEEE
[03:33:31] <arti> i hope you're female
[03:33:49] * crutchy put's underpants on
[03:33:58] <crutchy> put's ???
[03:34:04] * arti notices crutchy's inventory space increase by 6
[03:34:51] <crutchy> nah that's just the inventory space required by my underpants
[03:35:47] <arti> :|
[03:35:55] <arti> what are they, woll?
[03:35:56] <arti> wool*
[03:36:11] <arti> "check out how thick they are! i can sit anywhere comfortably now!"
[03:36:22] <crutchy> nah they designed to hold heavy machinery :-P
[03:37:33] <arti> makes me think of this http://bash.org
[03:37:50] <poutine--> /r/thatHappened
[03:38:28] <crutchy> hi poutine
[03:38:32] <arti> records / data things are sweet
[03:42:37] <arti> hey crutchy i've got something for you when the kids are away
[03:42:53] <arti> the editing
[03:42:58] <arti> :D
[03:42:59] <crutchy> got daughter sitting with me atm :-P
[03:43:11] <arti> the end of it is awesome
[03:43:30] <MrBluze> hello poutine
[03:44:02] <crutchy> gotta be careful you don't refer to poutine-- like this:
[03:44:09] <crutchy> poutine-- : g'day
[03:44:09] <SlimShady> karma - poutine: -337
[03:45:33] <crutchy> crutchy--:
[03:45:36] <crutchy> hmm
[03:46:38] <SirFinkus> crutchy--
[03:46:38] <SlimShady> karma - crutchy: 39
[03:46:42] <SirFinkus> it worked!
[03:46:51] <SirFinkus> crutchy++
[03:46:51] <SlimShady> karma - crutchy: 40
[03:50:49] <sea> bacon+-
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[03:56:42] * SirFinkus is cooking bacon AS WE SPEAK
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[04:04:14] <SpallsHurgenson> you know, all this talk about bacon is starting to make me get sick of bacon
[04:06:58] <arti> i feel the same way about other subjects
[04:07:16] <arti> like at work, when they say they want more pay... the nerve
[04:10:31] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I'm all for that!
[04:10:42] <SpallsHurgenson> workers unite, demand more pay! Especially for me! :)
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[04:20:49] * SpallsHurgenson believes that every worker deserves the right to demand a higher wage for me, and if they don't get it they should walk off the job!
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[04:31:22] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, before I forget... I wanted to make sure to use the word "lugubrious" at least once in a sentence today.
[04:31:26] <SpallsHurgenson> so that's done :)
[04:50:34] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - The Origin of Lions - http://sylnt.us - because-lions-are-awesome
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[05:07:25] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> one of my monitors keeps flickering...
[05:07:38] <arti> check the connection?
[05:07:45] <arti> sometimes it just needs to be reseated
[05:08:12] <SpallsHurgenson> already did that. it's an old CRT, it may be time to let it go
[05:08:25] * arti hasn't used a crt in ages
[05:08:38] <arti> you won't miss the bulk
[05:08:54] <SpallsHurgenson> no, but I will miss the excellent color...
[05:09:16] <SpallsHurgenson> and the 4:3 resolution
[05:09:55] <arti> and the flickers!
[05:10:19] * SpallsHurgenson hugs his monitor "Don't die, Mr. CRT! Your old and are probably sterilizing me with your radition, but we still love you!"
[05:12:53] <arti> what your computer area is like: http://fast1.onesite.com
[05:15:44] <SpallsHurgenson> one day I really should buy a new desk too. This one is wobbly
[05:16:12] <arti> you just need a successful dexterity roll
[05:16:46] <SpallsHurgenson> Oh! Number one reason not to get rid of the CRT: the top if a great place to store stuff (balancing things on a flatscreen just doesn't work :)
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[05:20:30] * crutchy is eating rainbow icecream with nerds :-P
[05:20:43] <arti> nerds, i haven't had those in awhile
[05:21:04] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, how nice you and some friends are eating icecream :)
[05:21:48] <crutchy> they make the icecream taste fruity :-P
[05:22:19] <arti> pair it with mozilla
[05:27:21] <SpallsHurgenson> okay... ipods are charged, phones are charged, cameras are charged, psp is charged, palm pdas are charged... just waiting for the ipad and then I can stick 'em all in a closet for another year :)
[05:44:51] <SN> balls hurgenson, farti, and crotchy
[05:55:17] <crutchy> hi kobach
[05:55:20] <crutchy> :-P
[06:03:10] <arti> indeed
[06:03:18] <arti> it's a mixture of the beef jerky and trail mix
[06:03:20] <arti> also beer
[06:03:29] * arti is awaiting reinforcements for the tokage
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[06:11:35] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Crowdfunding for Novena Open-Hardware Laptop - http://sylnt.us - 2-subs-for-the-price-of-one
[06:11:41] <arti> !!!!
[06:12:52] <mrcoolbp> yeah wait till you see the damn thing first
[06:12:59] <mrcoolbp> it's a big honking beast
[06:13:32] <SpallsHurgenson> it sure is!
[06:13:50] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, oh, you're talking about hte laptop? I, uh... I was thinking about something else.
[06:14:18] <arti> i'm not a laptop guy
[06:14:24] <arti> don't dig the keyboards
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[06:14:42] * arti cheers
[06:14:46] <arti> greetings maker
[06:14:47] <SpallsHurgenson> still, they are easier to work with on the subway than a desktop :)
[06:15:23] <arti> lol working
[06:16:57] <Subsentient> arti: I didn't know I was so popular!
[06:17:01] * Subsentient snickers
[06:17:14] <arti> damn people greeting me! to heck!
[06:17:21] <arti> s/damn/darn/
[06:17:21] <SedBot> <arti> darn people greeting me! to heck!
[06:23:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I think my window is open. All the cold air is rushing in (or the warm air is rushing out). However, I am too lazy to get out of my seat to close it so I think I'll just turn on some more computers :)
[06:24:14] <arti> MSI kombustor :D
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[17:41:08] <michealpwalls> Yay,I think I've figured out this hibernate issue in win7 :D
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[17:51:24] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - The Power Of Poop: A Whale Story - http://sylnt.us - Circle-of-Life
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[18:18:30] <Titanium> lol, awesome article
[18:19:09] <xlefay> michealpwalls, let me guess, the problem itself was Windows? :)
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[20:40:03] <xlefay> janrinok, it is you?
[20:40:25] <janrinok> it really is me, yes
[20:40:40] <janrinok> how#s things with you?
[20:40:44] <xlefay> That's good. How are you?
[20:41:01] <xlefay> I'm ok, taking a break from SN related work and working on my own little IRC bot (Sublight); you?
[20:41:04] <arti> do we have fake janrinok sightings?
[20:41:05] <janrinok> OK had a busy day, but can relax a bit now
[20:41:26] <janrinok> arti: it's a long story....
[20:41:43] <janrinok> 'they' are after me
[20:42:04] <arti> "they live" excellent movie :P
[20:42:12] <janrinok> lol
[20:42:36] <janrinok> anyway arti how are you?
[20:42:59] <arti> pretty good :) have some designs to work on today
[20:43:20] <arti> more blood for the blood god, i mean portfolio pieces
[20:44:13] <janrinok> I've been battling with Firefox. The latest versions don't allow some of my add-ons to work. So I thought that I would try to compile my own version from about 12 months back. I've had 1 compiler error after another
[20:44:22] <arti> didn't they fix that?
[20:44:27] <arti> or is it outdated mods?
[20:44:48] <arti> compiling firefox, how long does that take you?
[20:44:49] <janrinok> I've got all the deps sorted but it keep finding typos - which shouldn't exist as it comes from Moz's own repos.
[20:44:58] * arti shudders at doing a make build world
[20:45:07] <arti> awesome
[20:45:28] <janrinok> I don't know how long it might take eventually, because I've not been successful yet!
[20:45:56] <janrinok> It should be simple - but for some reason it just won't play
[20:46:51] <janrinok> I like FF but it has become too bloated - much like the predecessor it was meant to replace. So I thought that I would try to trim out all the crap that I don't need.
[20:47:03] <arti> are you able to use repos from a distro?
[20:48:20] <janrinok> Yes but the IceWeasel for my Debian comes as a precompiled binary and not as a source.
[20:48:34] <arti> booo
[20:49:05] <janrinok> I've built large projects in the past but FF/IW is a pain
[20:49:46] <janrinok> anyway it gives me something to think about....
[20:50:27] * arti wishes you luck on your endeavor
[20:50:31] <janrinok> arti: what kind of designs are you working on?
[20:51:02] <arti> store and services sites
[20:51:48] <janrinok> Well I hope you have more success than I'm having!
[20:52:09] <arti> you just have a larger puzzle :)
[20:52:22] <janrinok> lol
[20:53:58] <xlefay> janrinok, about the precompiled binary, you can use apt to fetch the source; and re-package it to your liking (you'll also keep the paths debian is already using and things they've patched + it'll work without much fuzz)
[20:54:27] * arti is not familiar with apt enough
[20:54:36] <xlefay> e.g. you just change the configure line; change the changelog, repackage and dpkg install it
[20:54:37] <arti> freebsd's a different matter
[20:54:57] <janrinok> xlefay: I'm with arti - and I can only find the source for the current version - I want an older one.
[20:54:57] <xlefay> arti, I only learnt this recently, I blame NC
[20:55:17] <xlefay> Surely, debian keeps older versions in their repos for a while too?
[20:55:18] <arti> developer trix
[20:56:18] <janrinok> yes but Deb only seem to keep the binaries of IceWeasel. Other programs I can find but perhaps I'm just being a plonker and missing the obvious somewhere.
[20:57:54] <janrinok> xlefay: thanks for the tip though, I'll go and read up on apt later.
[20:58:16] <xlefay> hmm, it seems the source packages are readily available as well. e.g. apt-get source iceweasel=<the version you want>
[20:58:38] <janrinok> OK, I'll try again.
[20:58:38] <xlefay> np, just thought it'd save you a lot of fuzz; since you know it'll just work and you can just disable stuff in the package directly =)
[20:59:50] <arti> niiiiice
[20:59:56] <arti> still sounds like a good learning experience heh
[21:00:31] <xlefay> current iceweasel package for debian is "24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2" I have no clue whatsoever how they called older versions.. trying to find out
[21:02:06] <janrinok> downloading latest now - I'll see if I can get it to compile though....
[21:02:08] <xlefay> So the version before 24.4 is "17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1" as per, debian's repos
[21:03:02] <xlefay> http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org ; they do quite a bit of patching there :P
[21:04:32] <xlefay> although, many of those patches come from upstream; they do a bit of stuff to make it work locally too as far as I can see
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[21:17:21] <Konomi> xlefay: http://paste.ofcode.org
[21:17:48] <xlefay> ooh that's a handy command
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[22:51:11] <SlimShady> [SoylentNews] - Poll: More Will Switch to Linux Than to Win8 - http://sylnt.us - but-not-the-year-of-the-Linux-desktop
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[23:57:57] <NCMobile> can an editor update the article title on the poll post?