#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-03
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[00:05:58] <juggs> crutchy, HN rss now active on regurgi-bot. Thanks for the suggestion.
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[00:17:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Dopefish.
[00:17:39] <Dopefish> Hi
[00:17:40] <ciri> hi Dopefish
[00:17:46] <Dopefish> Swim swim hungry
[00:18:16] <Ethanol-fueled> from doze munchies doe
[00:19:01] <Ethanol-fueled> much systemd trolls shitting up every discussion.
[00:19:15] <Ethanol-fueled> considered making one myself, but came here instead.
[00:19:52] <juggs> canhazsystemdtrolls?
[00:19:52] <Dopefish> I don't mind Systemd
[00:20:00] <Dopefish> *shots fired*
[00:20:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I HATE HARRY POTTERING!
[00:20:25] <Ethanol-fueled> uh-hyuck
[00:20:30] <Dopefish> The old init system served us well... but Systemd has its advantages too
[00:21:28] <Ethanol-fueled> We should have a weekly systemd discussion posted.
[00:21:39] <Ethanol-fueled> have all the pro and cons get it out of their systems.
[00:22:06] * Ethanol-fueled giggles to self: "Tee-HEE! Systems! Get it? "
[00:23:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, what are you doing? No! Not that! Ayeeee!
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[00:24:03] <Dopefish> What... the hell was that?
[00:25:04] <paulej72> Eth was drunk again
[00:25:33] <arti> implying he sobers up :P
[00:25:50] <paulej72> ture
[00:26:06] <juggs> implying it's not just an adopted persona to garner attention.
[00:26:28] <paulej72> he may be like Bender and actually gets worse when he is out of ethanol
[00:26:37] <arti> focused like a laser
[00:29:50] <Dopefish> Got to run. BBL
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[00:39:23] <juggs> irc while driving - that's a new one on me.
[00:46:24] Dopefish_driving is now known as Dopefish
[00:46:33] <Dopefish> Yes... I was driving home from work
[00:46:40] <Dopefish> IRC on Android ftw
[00:47:25] <Dopefish> Hopefully this will help me stay online more. I'm trying this out seeing how often I get disconnected and if it causes any issues
[00:48:09] <juggs> Are you set up on the SN bouncer?
[00:48:15] <paulej72> Dopefish: if you need it I can get you setup on the znc bouncer
[00:48:37] <Dopefish> That would actually be nice
[00:48:51] <Dopefish> How does that work? A daily email digest?
[00:48:51] <ciri> doing great here
[00:50:18] <paulej72> Dopefish: it keeps a live connection at all times to the irc server. you connect to the bouncer via your irc client. the boucner can send your the data it caches when you reconnect
[00:50:19] <juggs> Dopefish, the bouncer stays connected to the irc server, you connect your client to the bouncer. If your client disconnects, the bouncer replays missed messages when you reconnect - and keeps track of what channels you are in etc.
[00:50:56] <paulej72> juggs: i need to get you a login to the znc server as well since you are dept head for irc
[00:51:10] <Dopefish> Niice
[00:51:11] <juggs> HA! Ninja'd paulej72 twice. That's a first and a last no doubt :D
[00:51:19] <Dopefish> So is this all automatic?
[00:51:34] <Dopefish> Or do I need to configure something on my end
[00:51:35] <juggs> paulej72, I'm connected through my own ZNC instance.
[00:52:03] <paulej72> juggs: but you should have admin rights on the SN one
[00:52:09] <juggs> Dopefish, you'll need to change irc server settings in your client to connect to the bouncer rather than the irc server directly.
[00:52:23] <juggs> paulej72, good point.
[00:52:27] <Dopefish> Ok.
[00:54:49] <juggs> I have to use a bouncer as my home connection is flakey as all hell, it would be a nightmare connecting direct.
[00:56:25] <juggs> paulej72, do we currently give ZNC users access to the ZNC web interface to configure things on their account (chan save / auto away etc.?) or just set it up for them in advance?
[00:56:34] <Dopefish> So what is the server address? Like bouncer.soylentnews.org?
[00:56:38] <paulej72> yes
[00:57:21] <juggs> Dopefish, I'm sure paulej72 will reveal all once he has you set up.
[00:58:03] <Dopefish> Ok great thanks
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[00:58:19] <SoyCow5242> sp people
[00:58:55] <SoyCow5242> what mekessoylent better than /.
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[00:59:33] <SoyCow5242> Dopefish: hi
[00:59:50] <juggs> Only thing I would note is that sometimes ZNC misses a few lines of scrollback on a short client disconnect event - but that's just a symptom of timeout to recognise the disconnect.
[01:00:05] <Dopefish_> Hi SoyCow
[01:00:07] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D Dopefish_
[01:00:26] <SoyCow5242> Dopefish_: what do u guys talk about here?
[01:00:26] <Dopefish_> Darnit did my connection glitch
[01:00:42] <Dopefish_> Hang on brb
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[01:00:56] <SoyCow5242> ciri: hi
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[01:01:02] <chromas> SoyCow5242: we don't have beta here
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[01:01:15] <SoyCow5242> chromas: hehe
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[01:01:29] <SoyCow5242> ?beta=seriously 1
[01:01:33] <chromas> also the staff is cool and receptive. if you have ideas, they'll be considered
[01:01:58] <SoyCow5242> so are u guys all ex /.tters?
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[01:02:36] <chromas> As far as I know, most of us are
[01:02:48] <SoyCow5242> ok
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[01:03:13] <Dopefish> ok that's much better
[01:03:17] <Dopefish> at my desktop
[01:03:30] <SoyCow5242> i like soylent .. i think i'm gonna switch .. but i cant see the point in reddit ? whats ur take on reddit?
[01:03:36] <Dopefish> eh
[01:03:41] <Dopefish> reddit *used* to be good
[01:03:49] <Dopefish> now it's all about boobies and cat pictures
[01:03:58] <SoyCow5242> i think its like a bunch of useless crap
[01:04:06] <Dopefish> with the occasional science article or tech piece
[01:04:07] <SoyCow5242> random pictures etc
[01:04:11] <Dopefish> yeah idk
[01:04:22] <Dopefish> I lurk on it... but it's mostly a popularity contest
[01:04:31] <Dopefish> people circle jerking for gold
[01:04:54] <chromas> Here at Soylent, we have more than just cats and bewbs and circlejerks. We also have irc
[01:05:35] <SoyCow5242> soylent looks good these days but i'd miss the volume of comments on /. although a large % of them are dumb
[01:06:53] <SoyCow5242> one more request .. can that red color be changed to something easier on the eyes? say grey ?
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[01:07:04] <chromas> yes
[01:07:14] <SoyCow5242> in preferences?
[01:07:23] <SoyCow5242> or browser side?
[01:07:29] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:30] <monopoly> ^ 03Log In
[01:07:43] <chromas> Select theme. Night Mode is gray, though it's also dark
[01:08:40] <chromas> Ah, Black Icicle is mostly grays
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[01:09:36] <SoyCow5242> so /. dosent have any IRC?
[01:10:15] <chromas> Heh, I never thought to find out
[01:10:33] <chromas> But if they do, ours is 200% cooler
[01:11:44] <Dopefish> SoyCow... not that I'm aware of
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[01:12:29] <SoyCow5242> hmm .. i joined soylent .. :)
[01:13:04] <chromas> Welcome!
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[01:14:48] <SoyCow5242> whats all sections on the homepage?
[01:15:22] <SoyCow5242> theres a radio button there
[01:16:51] <chromas> There are no tooltips or anything but I think it lets you pick for each section if it's invisible to you, or if it's folded by default or whatever
[01:17:04] <chromas> but currently the Nexus stuff for sections is broken I think
[01:19:11] <chromas> The source we forked from was crusty with incomplete features so the devs have been working to fix it up
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[01:23:05] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:23:30] * chromas stabs some potatoes
[01:23:36] * SpallsHurgenson takes the opportunity to count some teeth
[01:24:05] <chromas> How many? And which ones?
[01:24:07] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[01:25:09] <SoyCow5242> hey guys i'm not seeing any button to post a new comment ..
[01:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Reply, up in the red bar below the story
[01:26:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well red in the default theme
[01:26:29] <SoyCow5242> got it .. :P
[01:26:36] * SpallsHurgenson uses puke green :)
[01:27:04] * chromas has mod points. Taking all bribes!
[01:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i use most of em so i can tell dev from my vm from live from the staff one
[01:27:32] * SpallsHurgenson switches to bruised blue
[01:28:19] * SpallsHurgenson realizes he has mod points too... how'd that happen?
[01:28:39] <chromas> Could rename Black Icicle to facepunch
[01:28:49] <chromas> like the emo girls with their eye shadow
[01:28:52] <SpallsHurgenson> Alas, I am far too unjudgemental to ever make use of 'em.
[01:29:35] <SoyCow5242> gentoo vs debian --> whoos the winner ?
[01:29:46] <SpallsHurgenson> MS DOS!
[01:29:47] <chromas> Submit an article to find out
[01:30:08] * chromas used MS DOS 3.3 until 1996
[01:30:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> we talking arm wrestling or what?
[01:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i think the debian devs could take the gentoo devs
[01:30:58] <chromas> the gento devs can tweak their arm performance but then they have to compile it
[01:31:23] <chromas> if they have enough Os
[01:31:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure debian devs have weight on their side
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[01:31:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Bytram|away
[01:32:03] <chromas> wouldn't mind seeing gentoo update the logo
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[01:33:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: evenin'
[01:33:28] <juggs> yes, that is what truly defines a distro and sets it apart from the rest. The logo.
[01:33:38] <chromas> sure is
[01:33:40] * juggs nods sagely
[01:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> name too, don't forget the name
[01:34:13] <Bytram> you mean like systemd? /me ducks
[01:34:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought it was the package manager
[01:34:50] * juggs goes off to fly around in space while the madness subsides.
[01:35:16] <SpallsHurgenson> madness? This... is... LINUX!
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[01:35:27] * SpallsHurgenson kicks juggs down a well
[01:36:00] <chromas> juggs: quick! sudo systemctl enable springboots!
[01:38:15] <juggs> You just created "The Ring - SN Edition" SpallsHurgenson - this time it is not a little girl with silly hair obscuring the face... no-one wants to know what is going to climb out of this well now!
[01:38:18] * SpallsHurgenson loads up a DOS6 virtual machine and fires up TurboC++
[01:38:43] <juggs> TurboPascal++
[01:38:43] <Bender> karma - turbopascal: 1
[01:40:27] <SpallsHurgenson> why was everything in the DOS days so... blue?
[01:40:49] <Bytram> to get some reflective shine from "Big Blue", maybe?
[01:42:12] <SoyCow5242> portage vs apt ----> the best package manager in the galaxy?
[01:42:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> pacman ftw
[01:42:49] <SpallsHurgenson> that's easy: victory to iOS App store! :)
[01:43:08] <paulej72> Bytram: the bug fix for html in the titles is live on dev
[01:43:27] <Bytram> paulej72: hi! Yep, just saw it -- looks good!
[01:43:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj, you in a rush to get that pull request merged?
[01:43:33] <Bytram> thanks for the QUICK work!
[01:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> if so i can get it tonight. if not i'll do it over my first cup o coffee in the am.
[01:44:17] <paulej72> no not really, but the second one has all of the stuff from the frist one as well
[01:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> they both got lumped together looks like
[01:45:18] <paulej72> well my second branch started where the first one stopped
[01:45:29] <Bytram> paulej72: did you have a chance to look at the Moderation button/delete code?
[01:45:39] * Bytram is curious what needs/needed changing
[01:45:43] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: did you make any progress today
[01:45:57] <paulej72> Bytram: yes that fix is up as well
[01:45:57] * SoyCow5242 drinks a cup of green tea . no more whiskey
[01:46:12] <Bytram> paulej72: wonderful!
[01:46:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> got a hackish fix in that appears to solve it but i'd prefer to do it properly so gonna look again tomorrow
[01:46:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> if needs be i can put the hack in to 14.10 and get back to it but if i can fix it right i'd rather.
[01:50:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Plausable Explanation for Leap from Windows 8 to Windows 10 - http://sylnt.us - just-because-it-worked-once-does-not-mean-it-was-right
[01:51:09] <chromas> even_numbers++
[01:51:10] <Bender> karma - even_numbers: 1
[01:51:13] <chromas> even_numbers++
[01:51:14] <Bender> karma - even_numbers: 2
[01:55:13] * juggs drops a cardamon pod in SoyCow5242's tea. Works well with black tea too.
[01:55:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: ug there's a bunch of stuff I want to change on the about/faq pages but I haven't been keeping notes
[01:55:54] <mrcoolbp> we could point-release that I guess
[01:56:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> The FAQ? I think you can mod that without even bouncing the server, no?
[01:56:32] <Bytram> not-even-numbers++
[01:56:32] <paulej72> would like to get it in , but since you will be away, I guess it can wait.
[01:57:02] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: i forget
[01:57:03] <SoyCow5242> merkat day merkat want mod points
[01:57:05] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I've been swamped lately, keeps fallin' by the wayside, you know that page is my baby = )
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[01:58:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: paulej72: mrcoolbp: while you are all here, just want to send ya a great big thanks for all you are doing behinds the scenes to keep this site ship-shape!
[01:58:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> you said ship, right?
[01:58:17] <mrcoolbp> 'swhat we do sir.
[01:58:35] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: well, maybe wait for the weekend. =)
[01:58:42] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: yes the faq pages are all templates now, and can be updated withut a bounce
[01:58:44] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: only in syndication
[01:58:49] <mrcoolbp> mostly paulej and TMB though, I just keep that hamster scared enough to keep running
[01:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome
[01:59:15] * Bytram thinks something just went over his head
[01:59:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: is that available though the admin interface or do I have to do some ssh/hacky juju
[01:59:27] <bubbly> when is soylent news gonna overtake /. ?
[01:59:45] <mrcoolbp> bubbly: when we start trying = )
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[02:00:05] * chromas offers Bytram a woosh.ogg
[02:00:13] <SpallsHurgenson> or when beta becomes mandatory
[02:00:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> bubbly, give us a few years. we're already hitting hundred comments regularly which is pretty good for six months out.
[02:00:27] <bubbly> maybe it never should .. coz when it does it'll start looking like /. ? ?
[02:00:27] <paulej72> it is available from the admin interface, but it needs to get put into the code or the next deploy will overwirte
[02:00:51] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: well I could edit it in, then you could throw it in the code right?
[02:00:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya so if you don't wanna deal with git just mail a copy of the template to one of us.
[02:01:17] <Bytram> paulej72: speaking of which... those comment/story filters you added... are they saved and automagically restored?
[02:01:21] <mrcoolbp> cool, yeah git hates me
[02:01:24] <mrcoolbp> ask pj
[02:01:35] <paulej72> sure, have you used the template interface before mrcoolbp
[02:02:02] <mrcoolbp> I edit the blocks, but I've been scared to break the site as I was warned so many months ago
[02:02:03] <paulej72> filters are not overwiritten,
[02:02:36] <paulej72> templates are similar to blocks, just more to break :)
[02:03:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> look at it this way, if you break the FAQ, you already know what the most F A'd Q will be.
[02:03:42] <Bytram> lol
[02:06:42] <SpallsHurgenson> what's the status of Soylent After Dark: news and images for the discriminate reader ? :)
[02:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea, i'm not discriminate in my after dark images
[02:07:36] <chromas> Are there toasters involved?
[02:08:02] <paulej72> we are a world wide audience, so it is always after dark
[02:08:09] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: meh, looks relatively straight-forward, anyting to be careful about specifically?
[02:08:22] <SpallsHurgenson> if that's what you are into, Soylent After Dark does not judge :)
[02:08:28] <mrcoolbp> TMB" *grin*
[02:09:01] <paulej72> where is EF when we need him
[02:09:03] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question paulej72
[02:09:06] * chromas made some svg comment collapse/restore icons for increased portability
[02:10:00] <Bytram> oh. goody. here we go again: http://rss.computerworld.com
[02:10:01] <monopoly> ^ 03JPMorgan Chase says breach affected 83M customers | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[02:10:34] <paulej72> time to start using cash again
[02:10:38] <swiss> it's the same breach as before iirc
[02:10:50] <swiss> i was surprised they kept it so quiet for so long
[02:10:55] <swiss> i heard about this like 2.5 weeks ago
[02:11:00] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: anything to be careful about specifically on the templates?
[02:11:11] <Bytram> swiss: oh, that's right. good point!
[02:11:36] <swiss> why was it so suppressed before?
[02:11:43] * chromas isn't sure weather to trust swiss and all the bank accounts and cheese he may be involved with
[02:12:14] <swiss> whether*
[02:12:16] <swiss> :P
[02:12:19] <paulej72> they do not porigate fully until the caches all clear, so any changes you make will not be seen right away consitently
[02:12:31] <swiss> also, it might be a different breach. i haven't read up on it enough
[02:12:53] <swiss> my main laptop is kinda broken, so i am not keeping as up to date as i normally would
[02:13:01] * swiss should buy a chromebook for times like these
[02:13:03] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I already got into the FAQ template with the HTML I'm looking for (which is the only thing I would change) without breaking the site, we should be okay
[02:13:18] <SpallsHurgenson> porigate - propagating porridge
[02:13:36] <paulej72> also you need to select the page (faq) and then the template you want to edit. there are 4 faq pages that you may need to edit
[02:13:53] * chromas goes to make pie crust, finds earwig in food chopper
[02:14:35] <paulej72> just make changes to the Template text box and you should be ok.
[02:14:53] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: copy that, when are you deploying 14.10 ?
[02:15:06] <paulej72> well at least the earwig was not in the flour
[02:15:25] <paulej72> probaly Saturday late
[02:15:40] <mrcoolbp> k, probably be after that then
[02:15:51] <mrcoolbp> we'll see if I'm feeling saucy tomorrow morning
[02:16:52] <SpallsHurgenson> people don't use "saucy" as often as they should
[02:17:24] <Bytram> good point. maybe because it sounds too much like sassy?
[02:17:27] <paulej72> my sauce is saucy
[02:17:55] <bubbly> g'night fellas .. i'm off to sleep .. nice to see an active community like urs .. and .. fuck beta!! yeah ..
[02:17:56] <Bytram> don't they make a tea out of it? saucifrass?
[02:18:07] <Bytram> bubbly: thanks for dropping by!
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[02:18:40] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: I do constantly
[02:19:41] <SpallsHurgenson> people other than mrcoolbp don't use "saucy" as often as they should
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[02:19:57] <mrcoolbp> Spalls: I'm bringing it back
[02:20:34] <SpallsHurgenson> that's very saucy of you... I think
[02:21:14] <mrcoolbp> it worked!
[02:22:36] <SpallsHurgenson> (awww, my archived MS Word 2.0a install disks don't work... now how will I write documents in Windows 3.1?)
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[02:39:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> I seem to have slowed down my submitting the last couple of days
[02:40:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> which is probably good given the barrage of submissions I sent in on Tuesday
[02:40:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> but frankly, I just didn't find as many worthwhile stories yesterday or today.
[02:41:09] <Bytram> afk back in a few minutes
[02:41:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> some days you don't. oh hey, no subs per timespan limit on subscribers after the update.
[02:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> still the one per five minutes limit but that shouldn't be too big an issue.
[02:42:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, I had to buy a subscription on Tuesday because I ran into the limit
[02:43:43] <Dopefish> who is still running Win 3.1? xD
[02:44:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> I don't think I'd ever get above 1 submission/5 minutes. I *do* actually read all the stuff I submit (though not always in its entirety before submitting) which takes time.
[02:44:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Dopefish: is it you?
[02:44:52] <mrcoolbp> AndyTheAbsurd: I think I posted one of them
[02:44:58] <mrcoolbp> AndyTheAbsurd: Yes, it's him
[02:45:07] <mrcoolbp> I can verify
[02:46:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> 7 stories accepted out of 16 submitted over the last three days; 9 pending, 0 rejected in that timespan. I think that's pretty good.
[02:47:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm sure I'll get more rejects as time goes on, I can't be the first person to submit a story EVERY time.
[02:48:15] <Dopefish> yes it's me
[02:49:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, you can at least look at pending subs now though.
[02:49:06] <Dopefish> yeah sorry I haven't been vouching submissions for awhile now I'm afraid. Although I do intend to edit submissions as time permits, I see myself more in a creative role
[02:49:17] <mrcoolbp> AndyTheAbsurd: not bad, I seem to remember your post needing a bit of editing, but it wasn't bad. I'd rather need to do touchups then rewrite or have our editors submit stuff themselves, so keep 'em coming!
[02:54:59] <Dopefish> who on this channel uses Linux as their primary OS... or at least uses it frequently
[02:55:02] <Dopefish> just curious
[02:55:15] <chromas> Everybody who's anybody
[02:55:21] <Dopefish> good enough for me
[02:55:24] <chromas> :)
[02:55:37] <Dopefish> srsly tho... Steam has been a freaking godsend for Linux
[02:55:43] <Dopefish> Now I can play Borderlands on Linux
[02:55:49] <Dopefish> *sike*
[02:56:11] <chromas> I have torchlight 2 for windows; I wonder if I already get the lin version or if I buy it again. haven't booted up the lin version in a while
[02:56:23] <chromas> er wait, that's right; borderlands
[02:56:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> Dopefish: me. I haven't used Windows for anything but Netflix since....March, I guess.
[02:57:05] <Dopefish> well... now with Netflix becoming officially... ish... supported by Linux in Chrome
[02:57:06] <chromas> ~submit uselessd-4 should be out in ~3 days
[02:57:09] <Dopefish> no need for that now haha
[02:57:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> should show up pretty soon for Firefox as well (using the same "use a different agent" trick)
[02:58:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> since the newest Firefox on Windows is getting HTML5 playback by default
[02:58:01] <Dopefish> hope so
[02:58:02] <chromas> does it use the pepper api?
[02:58:02] <mrcoolbp> ~weather Jackson, NH
[02:58:03] <exec> Weather for Jackson, NH - currrently 46°F, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 95% - Thursday partly cloudy (68°F, 39°F), Friday clear (64°F, 41°F), Saturday showers (59°F, 45°F), Sunday partly cloudy (54°F, 34°F) - source: Google
[02:58:13] <Dopefish> hey I like you exec
[02:58:23] <Dopefish> ~weather Pittsburgh, PA
[02:58:25] <exec> Weather for Pittsburgh, PA - currrently 62°F, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 76% - Thursday fog (75°F, 59°F), Friday chance of storm (73°F, 50°F), Saturday chance of showers (54°F, 37°F), Sunday partly cloudy (55°F, 46°F) - source: Google
[02:58:33] <Dopefish> nice :)
[02:58:40] <mrcoolbp> ~define nice
[02:58:41] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3nice: Used as a filler during a pause in conversation. Doesn't necessarily mean something complimentary.
[02:58:44] <Dopefish> LOL
[02:58:44] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[02:58:53] <mrcoolbp> shutup ciri noone likes
[02:58:54] <mrcoolbp> you
[02:58:59] <Dopefish> what about linux nice
[02:59:02] <Dopefish> oh well
[02:59:10] <mrcoolbp> ~define linux
[02:59:12] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3linux: If Operating Systems Ran The Airlines... UNIX Airways Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by pi...
[02:59:22] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[02:59:23] <Dopefish> is exec being sarcastic?
[02:59:25] <exec> Confucius say… forgiveness is cheaper than a lawsuit, but not nearly as gratifying.
[02:59:31] <Dopefish> OH YOU
[03:00:06] <mrcoolbp> Dopefish: I think it uses urban dict
[03:00:11] <mrcoolbp> you can add definitions too
[03:00:23] <Dopefish> lovely
[03:00:59] <chromas> pie++
[03:00:59] <Bender> karma - pie: 1
[03:01:01] <mrcoolbp> ~definition-add Dopefish The editor that started it all
[03:01:08] <mrcoolbp> ~define-add Dopefish The editor that started it all
[03:01:09] <exec> syntax: ~define-add <term>, <definition>
[03:01:11] <Dopefish> aww you are too kind
[03:01:18] <mrcoolbp> ~define-add Dopefish, The editor that started it all
[03:01:19] <exec> definition for term "Dopefish" set to "The editor that started it all"
[03:01:27] * Dopefish smiles
[03:01:30] <mrcoolbp> ~define Dopefish
[03:01:30] <exec> [soylent] Dopefish: The editor that started it all
[03:01:35] <Dopefish> w00t
[03:01:45] <mrcoolbp> = )
[03:02:05] <mrcoolbp> you've missed much my friend
[03:02:14] <Dopefish> sheesh you ain't kidding!
[03:02:17] <mrcoolbp> !todo FAQ and about Page (templates)
[03:02:17] <Bender> todo item 18 added
[03:03:30] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:04:22] <mrcoolbp> scared to do this but....
[03:04:24] <mrcoolbp> !todo
[03:04:24] <Bender> todo for mrcoolbp: 1) make sure someone else has privs on every system 2) contact StarTrek Reboot orgs 3) social-media/user recruitment strategy 4) make helpful graphics for editing interface 5) site redesign contest 6) ask NCommander if we still need all-staff meetings 7) badges for # of accepted submissions 8) warrant canary 9) encrypted dropbox SN account 10) hammer - 1 more
[03:04:26] <mrcoolbp> !more
[03:04:28] <Bender> linode for a better deal 11) check dev WRT poll+story 12) document store maintenence procedures on wiki 13) embroidered hat 14) t-shirt: "I don't always RTFA, but when I do, I read it in sourcecode 15) Update staff-list 16) expand "About" page 17) post to main page: "where else do you hang out? Please spread the word about soylent" 18) FAQ and about Page (templates)
[03:04:44] <Blackmoore> !todo
[03:04:59] <mrcoolbp> dopefish: if your bored, feel free to grab one or two ^
[03:05:01] <Blackmoore> boo
[03:05:09] <Blackmoore> !todo
[03:05:09] <Bender> todo for blackmoore: 1) Start drinking 2) get more rum
[03:05:10] * mrcoolbp whacks Blackmoore
[03:05:19] <Dopefish> haha
[03:05:24] <Blackmoore> i like my list better
[03:05:31] <Dopefish> !todo
[03:05:31] <Bender> todo for dopefish: 1) Draft up initial specs for quality submission guidelines asap 2) List desired editor features to make our lives awesome
[03:05:32] <mrcoolbp> !done 15
[03:05:33] <mrcoolbp> !done 15
[03:05:33] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:05:35] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:05:36] <Dopefish> oh wow that's my list
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[03:06:25] <mrcoolbp> Dopefish: http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:25] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: FAQ
[03:06:39] <mrcoolbp> you can scratch that one
[03:06:49] <Dopefish> yeah that todo was from AGES ago
[03:06:55] <Dopefish> !done 1
[03:06:55] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:07:01] <Dopefish> !done 2
[03:07:01] <Bender> no items deleted
[03:07:09] <Dopefish> !todo
[03:07:10] <Bender> todo for dopefish: 1) List desired editor features to make our lives awesome
[03:07:12] <chromas> it's 1 now
[03:07:15] <mrcoolbp> you have to account for the fact that it deletes one
[03:07:16] <Dopefish> oh right duh
[03:07:22] <chromas> should be 0
[03:07:26] <Dopefish> !done 1
[03:07:26] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:07:32] <Dopefish> ok all better
[03:07:54] <mrcoolbp> also you can /query bender if you want to not spam up #soylent
[03:08:10] <mrcoolbp> I was just feelin' saucy
[03:08:16] * mrcoolbp winks at SpallsHurgenson
[03:08:24] <chromas> was it a saucy wink?
[03:08:30] <mrcoolbp> yah
[03:08:35] * chromas likes to watch…
[03:08:40] <mrcoolbp> oh gawd
[03:08:41] <chromas> er, um...
[03:09:29] <Blackmoore> well, I think I'll go take care of my wife..
[03:09:34] <Blackmoore> g'night all.
[03:09:34] <mrcoolbp> oooooh baby
[03:09:36] * chromas likes to watch…
[03:09:39] <chromas> er, um...
[03:09:39] <mrcoolbp> rofl
[03:09:42] <exec> Confucius say… man who put head on railroad track to listen for train likely to end up with splitting headache.
[03:09:43] <mrcoolbp> goodnight Blackmoore
[03:09:49] <Dopefish> night Blackmoore
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[03:10:34] <mrcoolbp> Dopefish, I'm gonna sign off too, anything else ya got?
[03:11:43] <crutchy> coffee++
[03:11:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 893
[03:11:46] * juggs potters about clearing up the empties
[03:12:04] <mrcoolbp> juggs:
[03:12:08] <mrcoolbp> 'preciate that
[03:12:09] <crutchy> aww did i miss the parté
[03:12:15] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: kinda
[03:12:26] <crutchy> damn work :/
[03:12:29] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: but dopefish is in awe of your exec
[03:12:55] <crutchy> wait till he sees it flood the channel. then it become a true marvel :p
[03:13:07] <mrcoolbp> ~help
[03:13:07] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[03:13:16] <mrcoolbp> ~list
[03:13:16] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~log ~lock ~unlock
[03:13:16] <exec> ~suggest ~funding ~ ~sed ~welcome ~remind ~cowsay ~moo ~fortune ~header ~header-login ~php ~join ~invite ~part ~isup ~rainbow ~queue ~uid ~up ~location ~staff ~g'day ~gday ~g'night ~gnight ~scramble rofl ~openthepodbaydoors ~cid ~count ~first ~last ~find-first ~find-last ~chart ~translate ~translate-sl ~weather ~weather-old ~weather-add ~weather-del ~weather-prefs ~time ~time-add ~time-del ~help ~define ~define-add ~define-delete ~define-count ~
[03:13:31] <mrcoolbp> ah man I got two bots to flood at once last time
[03:13:44] <Dopefish> no I'
[03:13:45] <mrcoolbp> ~funding
[03:13:49] <Dopefish> no I'm good man
[03:13:53] <Dopefish> talk to you soon
[03:13:58] <crutchy> i think exec is only one with ~ as trigger
[03:14:08] <crutchy> !help might trigger a couple of eggdrops
[03:14:08] <Bender> can't find help on might trigger a couple of eggdrops
[03:14:08] <ciri> Help is only available for the following: all,google,images,groups,news,local,book,video,fight,youtube,translate,gamespot,gamefaqs,blog,ebay,ebayfight,wikipedia,wikimedia,locate,review,torrent,top,popular,dailymotion,ign,myspace,trends,scholar
[03:14:20] <mrcoolbp> rofl, delayed reactions ^
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[03:14:35] <chromas> you broke 'im
[03:14:47] <mrcoolbp> I meant to break bots, broke peoples instead
[03:14:59] <mrcoolbp> ~funding
[03:15:02] <chromas> perhaps…Dopefish is a bot
[03:15:06] <mrcoolbp> he is
[03:15:07] <crutchy> been sorta putting together a bit of a table http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[03:15:08] <monopoly> ^ 04Wiki: 03IRC: There are a few bots lurking in the Soylent IRC channels besides the services mentioned above. Anyone wishing to develop bots should use #test or # for testing. Please avoid flooding in private establishments and official channels (except #test and #).
[03:15:27] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, sorry the ~funding one just queries. only shows message if value changes
[03:15:39] <crutchy> haven't updated help for that yet *spanks self*
[03:15:44] * chromas likes to watch…
[03:15:48] * mrcoolbp changes value just to see the report
[03:15:55] * mrcoolbp licks chromas
[03:16:17] * chromas tingles
[03:16:17] * crutchy likes to spank...
[03:16:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I'm too young to see this sort of stuff
[03:17:02] <mrcoolbp> ~openpodbaydoors
[03:17:07] <mrcoolbp> = (
[03:17:20] <SpallsHurgenson> only Dave has access to that command
[03:17:20] <crutchy> omg is that still there lol
[03:17:32] <mrcoolbp> !cramble
[03:17:35] <mrcoolbp> ug
[03:17:40] <mrcoolbp> ~scramble
[03:17:44] <crutchy> i was mucking around one night chatting with tmb when i made that one
[03:17:58] <mrcoolbp> ~chart
[03:17:58] <crutchy> ~scramble blah
[03:18:12] <crutchy> feck i have nfi how all this shit works any more
[03:18:16] <mrcoolbp> hahaha
[03:18:29] <mrcoolbp> if only we knew the dev...
[03:18:35] * mrcoolbp looks sternly at crutchy
[03:18:37] <Landon> oh man
[03:18:39] <Landon> capsaicin++
[03:18:39] <Bender> karma - capsaicin: 1
[03:18:40] <crutchy> he's heere in person
[03:18:48] <Landon> hot peppers are the best thing I've tried for my sore throat yet today
[03:18:50] <crutchy> mind is gone, like the rum
[03:18:54] <swiss> does xlefay still run the whole irc setup?
[03:18:58] <mrcoolbp> Landon: it's actually a medical treatment
[03:19:03] <Landon> numbing lozenges, cough drops, hot tea w/ honey, ice cream
[03:19:06] <mrcoolbp> swiss: negative
[03:19:20] <Landon> mrcoolbp: I don't see why they don't sell capsaicin laced cough drops....
[03:19:28] <crutchy> he was in 'nam and had delayed reaction to the bullets
[03:19:31] <chromas> They do
[03:19:34] <chromas> They're called peppers
[03:19:41] <Landon> :P
[03:19:42] <mrcoolbp> Landon: they use a topical first, then capsaisin, then nirvana
[03:19:49] <swiss> what'd it tranistion to
[03:20:01] <mrcoolbp> swiss: why?
[03:20:03] <crutchy> topsaivana
[03:20:20] <mrcoolbp> swiss: juggs is the IRC guy now, what can we do for ya ?
[03:24:02] <exec> 03*** SN funding has changed from $2,040 to $2,040.01
[03:24:59] <SpallsHurgenson> a penny saved is a penny earned!
[03:27:04] <crutchy> might take my lappy outside under the pergola
[03:27:13] <crutchy> get some vitamin stuffs
[03:27:34] <mrcoolbp> told ya I'd change it...
[03:28:22] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: yah, looks like I just got lucky last time. That time it took 9 minutes.
[03:28:50] <mrcoolbp> last time it was about 1 minute. I was understandably surprised.
[03:30:51] * mrcoolbp wanders towards bed room
[03:37:55] <crutchy> * chromas follows... to watch :p
[03:40:04] * juggs eyes crutchy with suspicion
[03:41:13] * crutchy shields himself with an anvil
[03:42:50] * juggs targets hellfire on crutchy - well ya never know, best me have it in target memory lest we be found wanting. And think of the kids!
[03:43:51] <crutchy> think of the bot!
[03:43:59] <crutchy> poor widdle bot
[03:44:28] <crutchy> all alone without someone to make it do more stupid shit
[03:47:46] * juggs thinks I need to stop playing oolite random hits - took 7 ECM hardened missiles and 4 attempts to take the latest hit out. It's not easy being the best bounty hunter in the galaxy :D
[03:48:56] <crutchy> you just need one transphasic torpedo :p
[03:49:28] <juggs> not seen those
[03:50:00] <crutchy> if its good enough to take out an entire borg cube in one hit, nothing else has a hope in hell :D
[03:50:54] <juggs> I hate it when a hit involves my docking computer being taken out of action.
[03:51:02] * juggs goes for manual dock
[03:51:03] * SpallsHurgenson looks at oolite, but is too lazy to plug in the joystick
[03:51:25] <crutchy> ~define docking
[03:51:32] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3docking: The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis.
[03:51:40] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, it's doable with just a k/board
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[03:52:34] <crutchy> number of users in here has gone up a bit. we were at 52 avg for a fair while
[03:53:04] <crutchy> either that or a 7 looks too much like a 2
[03:53:18] <juggs> ~shrug~
[03:53:34] * crutchy likes numbers
[03:53:47] <crutchy> real ones. not the fake ones on tv
[03:54:38] <crutchy> ooh i can track that automagically now
[03:54:52] * crutchy opens gedit
[03:55:19] <juggs> but if you are not scrawling them on a window or a transparent screen they don't count
[03:55:43] <crutchy> i still have my crayons
[03:56:43] <juggs> keep them handy, could a plot line in that
[03:59:54] <crutchy> might move back inside. outside is scary
[04:04:55] <chromas> Did you see your own shadow? Winter is coming and there be wieners
[04:05:11] <Popeidol> http://www.theguardian.com
[04:21:30] <crutchy> summer is on its way here. spring has sprung
[04:40:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - latest Details on JP Morgan Attack - http://sylnt.us - IP-Freely
[04:44:27] <swiss> Which big banks have been hit so far, aside from JPMC
[04:45:13] <crutchy> i keep my money in a small time credit union. fuck big banks
[04:45:18] <swiss> i have heard... rumors on how jpmc got breached. But they're just rumors
[04:45:39] <crutchy> it was prolly just a disgruntled employee
[04:45:45] <crutchy> or ex-employee
[04:46:04] <crutchy> and they were too lazy to change passwords
[04:57:26] <swiss> crutchy
[04:57:29] <swiss> er
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[05:51:59] <keplr> Progress so far: $2040.01
[05:52:10] <keplr> .01
[05:52:14] <keplr> Who did this
[05:53:46] <chromas> We introduced micropayments
[06:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Those were probably my test bitpay payments
[06:09:59] <crutchy> it was mrcoolbp
[06:10:24] <crutchy> i think he was trying to trigger the funding feed
[06:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be, dunno
[06:14:50] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:14:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 894
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[06:32:14] <chromas> should test to see if it takes negative deposits
[06:33:59] <keplr> Try to make it a round number please
[06:34:32] <chromas> 8 is round and has the power of two—just like a chest
[06:35:51] <keplr> I'll allow it
[06:37:04] <crutchy> $888.88
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[06:52:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microneedles for Drug Delivery via the Gastrointestinal Tract - http://sylnt.us - GI-Joe
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[07:04:33] <JamesNZ> I just saw 'headache' misspelled as 'headaque' D:
[07:04:52] <JamesNZ> typos--
[07:04:53] <Bender> karma - typos: 0
[07:05:04] <crutchy> its fancier
[07:05:33] <JamesNZ> I digress.
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[07:28:03] <Popeidol> goddammit SN
[07:28:20] <Popeidol> I just left a 'commenting because of no modpoints' comment
[07:28:50] <Popeidol> and then received modpoints when I clicked through to the next page
[07:30:42] <crutchy> good thing about SN is that its very open so you can see and be involved in what's going on the inside of the organisation (even though i'm not staff) with irc, github, wiki, and the site itself
[07:31:08] <crutchy> mod system does need work, but at least we know that its being worked on
[07:31:17] <crutchy> well, soonish anyway :p
[07:31:39] <Popeidol> of course
[07:31:45] <Popeidol> in this case it's just a matter of bad timing
[07:31:49] <crutchy> how's your weekend starting out Popeidol?
[07:31:53] <crutchy> ~time perth
[07:32:02] <Popeidol> friday off work == a damn good start
[07:32:05] <crutchy> oops
[07:32:11] <crutchy> ffucking bot
[07:32:20] <crutchy> oh sweet
[07:32:32] <crutchy> i took arvo off cos i felt like shit
[07:32:38] <crutchy> still do unfortunately
[07:32:39] <Popeidol> perth does not actually exist in time
[07:32:41] <Popeidol> only in space
[07:32:43] <crutchy> lol
[07:32:44] <ciri> hahaha
[07:33:06] <crutchy> only in bhp time :p
[07:33:40] <crutchy> has bhpbilliton changed its name?
[07:33:48] <crutchy> i vaguely remember reading something
[07:34:04] <Popeidol> hmm, not that I've noticed
[07:34:54] <Popeidol> wikipedia is quiet on the subject
[07:36:27] <crutchy> hmm. something about another merger. maybe it was a different company, or i was dreaming (dreaming about company mergers would be a disturbing development)
[07:36:38] <crutchy> oh maybe rio tinto?
[07:37:21] <crutchy> feck i dunno
[07:37:53] <Popeidol> BHP are buying some other company about now, but I think they're keeping the same name
[07:38:13] <crutchy> mkay
[07:38:24] <Popeidol> oh wait
[07:38:29] <Popeidol> "On August 19, 2014, the company announced it was splitting BHP Billiton in two"
[07:38:48] <crutchy> shit that's a big deal
[07:39:13] <crutchy> how the hell do you split a mega corporation?
[07:39:13] <ciri> don't ask me!
[07:39:20] <Popeidol> apparently they're sloughing off like $15b into another company
[07:39:23] <Popeidol> called 'newco' at the moment
[07:39:29] <crutchy> oh so not a huge split
[07:39:38] <Popeidol> which some marketing person probably got a bonus for
[07:39:42] <crutchy> yeah
[07:39:51] <Popeidol> "A newly formed entity NewCo was to house BHP Billiton's aluminium and manganese businesses, the Cerro Matoso mine, Energy Coal South Africa, Illawarra Metallurgical Coal and the Cannington Mine"
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[07:48:33] <keplr> Any editors here?
[07:52:01] <crutchy> not sure
[07:52:06] <crutchy> ~time chicago
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[07:52:14] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[07:52:16] <exec> Friday, 3 October 2014 @ 2:52 am CDT - Chicago, IL
[07:52:33] <crutchy> most of the prolly sleepy
[07:53:21] <crutchy> *them
[08:08:06] <keplr> Something I kinda liked from the old site was book reviews. Do we have someone on that?
[08:13:07] <crutchy> maybe just submit it as "book review: <title>"
[08:13:54] <crutchy> or you can also ~suggest <something> here to add it to the wiki suggestions page
[08:14:38] <crutchy> maybe a book reviews category
[08:17:13] <Popeidol> I feel they'd be pretty happy to accept book reviews
[08:17:48] <Popeidol> the trouble is convincing somebody to write them
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[08:48:43] <keplr> I'd like to review Sam Harris's new book for SN but I wasn't sure how book reviews were being handled, or if they were allowed at all.
[08:51:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humans have a Specific Neural Network for Tool Use - http://sylnt.us - your-brain-on-screwdrivers
[09:09:31] <crutchy> just submit it like a normal article, with "book review: " as title prefix
[09:09:39] <crutchy> only one way to find out
[09:09:51] <crutchy> i can't imagine anyone but the usual trolls would flame it
[09:10:17] <crutchy> especially on weekends when submissions are usually light on anyway
[09:10:55] <crutchy> ~queue
[09:10:59] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 29 - http://sylnt.us
[09:11:09] <crutchy> hmm not too bad atm
[09:11:11] <chromas> I concur. There's a couple other guys talking about writing up original content and the editors were posimative about it
[09:11:50] <crutchy> anything_that_makes_us_different_and_more_awesomer++
[09:11:50] <Bender> karma - anything_that_makes_us_different_and_more_awesomer: 1
[09:12:48] <crutchy> i submitted a bunch of irc banter once. it was rejected, but meh. anything is worth a shot
[09:14:42] <crutchy> i think it was from before loggie came along
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[10:51:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - So Long Lotus 1-2-3: IBM Ceases Support after over 30 Years of Code - http://sylnt.us - 3-2-1
[11:41:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Latest Details on JP Morgan Attack - http://sylnt.us - IP-Freely
[11:42:02] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:42:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 895
[11:42:05] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:42:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 896
[11:51:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nobel-Winning Physicist Martin Perl Dies at Age 87. - http://sylnt.us - InMemoriam.pl
[12:02:42] * crutchy offers KonomiNetbook some snotty tissues
[12:04:46] * Konomi bruns with fire
[12:38:09] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[12:38:27] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:38:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 897
[12:40:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nobel-Winning Physicist Martin Perl Dies at Age 87 - http://sylnt.us - InMemoriam.pl
[13:01:03] <paulej72> swiss: xlefay is hororary IRC team leader. jugss an I do the heavy lifting
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[13:06:54] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[13:06:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> I so overslept
[13:09:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:09:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 898
[13:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:09:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 899
[13:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:09:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 900
[13:09:55] <crutchy> i thought i was in some kind of time warp
[13:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah i just fucked around n overslept
[13:10:54] <paulej72> that is not good TheMightyBuzzard, you probably will not be able to code worth shit today
[13:11:17] <crutchy> i been coding for a couple of hours. has been good fun
[13:11:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be, on the other hand i was also up late so i didn't sleep too much
[13:12:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> we'll see, gonna find out what i had open when the power flickered yesterday n go from there
[13:12:16] <crutchy> chillhop makes decent background music for coding
[13:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, fan noise. i can't code to tunes.
[13:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> sides, yer judgment is suspect cause you like kpop
[13:13:56] <crutchy> i was surprised it wasn't more popular cos it's better than western pop
[13:14:01] <crutchy> most pop is shit though
[13:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, i have tons of .swp files in there
[13:14:40] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:14:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 901
[13:14:41] <crutchy> most music is tolerable as long as its played on a decent sound system
[13:16:06] <Bytram> I dunno, I've had access to a *great* sound system, and I still don't much care for country music. =)
[13:16:14] <crutchy> lol
[13:16:30] <crutchy> depends on the volume :p
[13:16:30] <Bytram> though, when I played it backwards, I got my car back, I got my dog back, and I got my wife back.
[13:16:43] <Bytram> yes, I've found it best to set it to MUTE.
[13:16:56] <paulej72> jpop and kpop are easy to like if you don’t know the language, you don’t need to comprehend the drivel that is spewing forth
[13:17:26] <Bytram> lemme guess, after jpop and kpop there will be lpop?
[13:17:39] * Bytram missed out on the ipop, too.
[13:18:53] <crutchy> paulej72, i think that's what i found better about it... the voices were more like instruments just making sounds
[13:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh now iggypop is another story all together
[13:19:22] <Bytram> btw, what ARE jpop and kpop...
[13:19:25] <Bytram> ~define jpop
[13:19:28] <Bytram> ~define kpop
[13:19:38] <paulej72> Japanese and Korean pop music
[13:19:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> japanese and korean pop
[13:19:45] <Bytram> lol
[13:19:46] <ciri> lol damn!
[13:19:48] <paulej72> nijaed
[13:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ee++
[13:19:54] <Bender> karma - ee: 1
[13:19:56] <Bytram> singing in harmony now are we?
[13:19:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah
[13:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:20:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 902
[13:20:05] <Bytram> !woop
[13:20:05] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:20:08] <Bytram> !uid
[13:20:09] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4765, owned by mysecurezone
[13:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hotkey fail
[13:20:12] <crutchy> tmb, chromas and i collaborated on a SN host down alert
[13:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[13:20:46] <Bytram> crutchy: would the alert be sent to IRC? or someplace else?
[13:20:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme know the percentage of false positives after a week and i'll see bout making it fire off the sirens
[13:20:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nanomagnets Allow Integrated Circuits in 3D - http://sylnt.us - how-do-they-work?
[13:21:00] <paulej72> crutchy: are you downloading the home page ervey 15ms to see if the site is up?
[13:21:02] <crutchy> exec does the timing and the first check, then if it can't connect it messages monopoly and it does its own check and if it can't connect either it alerts irc
[13:21:25] <crutchy> 15 min interval
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[13:21:44] <crutchy> its got a couple of other checks too, but that's the general idea
[13:22:11] <paulej72> in 15 minutes, we would have a storm here of I got 503 error posts
[13:22:31] <crutchy> ah
[13:22:41] <crutchy> well, i guess we can set it to whatever interval
[13:22:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> might use head instead of get and set it to 3m
[13:22:57] <Bytram> ^^^
[13:23:00] <crutchy> exec only does a head request
[13:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> win for you
[13:23:52] <Bytram> speaking of which... has any further thought been given to having a static page for the main site to let users know when the site is, for example, down for maintenance?
[13:24:03] <crutchy> https://github.com
[13:24:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, any objection to ninjaing in <sup><sub> and <strike> to the allowed tags?
[13:24:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: <strike> hmmm, also: <del>
[13:25:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nah, gotta leave some fun stuff for editors only
[13:25:09] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:25:13] <paulej72> Bytram: we could, but it would take longer to set the page than it would take to do most maintenance
[13:25:28] <crutchy> how can we square our subscripts with them?
[13:25:37] <crutchy> s/th/thout/.
[13:25:41] <crutchy> pfft
[13:25:45] <Bytram> hmmm, what happens with <sup><sup><sup><sup><sup><sup>tiny little text way up high</sup></sup></sup></sup></sup></sup>
[13:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno, try it n find out
[13:26:04] <Bytram> lol
[13:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> better yet, i will since i already enabled it on my vm
[13:26:33] <crutchy> what about if i just put a <sup> with no closing tag? does the rest of the page go bunk?
[13:26:35] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to do that and check journals
[13:27:01] <crutchy> or does it have raw and void tag validation?
[13:27:05] <paulej72> crutchy: slash as a balance tags sub that html goes through
[13:27:16] <crutchy> ah
[13:27:19] <crutchy> slash++
[13:27:19] <Bender> karma - slash: 0
[13:27:19] <paulej72> it should fix mismatched tags
[13:27:21] <Bytram> paulej72: at the moment, I agree... but it should be capapble of automation, no? run SiteDown.sh "Down for maintenance at %timestamp% expect to be up within %duration%" and it automagically pushes
[13:27:50] <crutchy> control from load balancer maybe
[13:27:52] <Bytram> things through
[13:28:21] <paulej72> Bytram: it is not really a simple matter moving the page that is loaded. we would have to change the loadbalancer or varnish in some manner
[13:28:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, they annoyingly stack
[13:29:15] <paulej72> we have no programic access to the load balancer, so having doing it with varnish would be problematic with multiple front ends
[13:29:33] <Bytram> I expected it would be "non-trivial", but it's something that comes up kinda regularly and it would be nice to keep the community informed... hence my mentioning it.
[13:30:03] <Bytram> can the load balancer periodically look for a sentinel file, and when it finds it, use that as the main page, instead?
[13:30:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, we don't balance tags on journals looks like.
[13:30:16] <Bytram> i.e. don't push it to the balancer/varnish; let them pull?
[13:30:23] <paulej72> and if the issue requires taking varnish down, then you are stuck
[13:30:48] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: you found the bug, you fix the bug :)
[13:30:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh!
[13:32:27] <paulej72> the loadbalancer has minimal controls, it will only take a node out of rotation and put it back in. THere is no fall back node support (ie use this node only if all others fail)
[13:33:22] <Bytram> that stinks. you'd think someone would have run into this before and come up with a workaround. :/
[13:33:39] <Bytram> btw, for the nested <sup> tags... take a look at: http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[13:34:09] <paulej72> lol
[13:34:09] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[13:34:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: pls let me know when you've seen it and I'll pull it from the story. http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:56] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 Close 04(/stats.soylentnews.org/piwik/"; comments)
[13:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i can't view that
[13:35:20] <Bytram> oops, wrong link.
[13:35:28] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:28] <NetCraft> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[13:35:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> <-- not an admin on live
[13:35:45] <Bytram> any luck with that one?
[13:36:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, no admin.pl links for me at all
[13:36:25] <Bytram> hmmm, ok. well, it does what you'd think it would do... the text kept getting smaller and raised up higher and higher.
[13:36:54] <paulej72> but not unreadable
[13:36:59] <Bytram> true
[13:37:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> same as on the vm then
[13:37:19] * Bytram thinks we should remember that one for April 1st.
[13:37:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a problem for articles but would suck in comments
[13:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw it, no sup for them this time.
[13:38:12] <crutchy> i made raw and tag validation routine for my work wiki
[13:38:20] <Bytram> well, it would be contained within the comment div... so it would only be an issue in one comment with no bleed-over effects. I really don't see a problem with it.
[13:38:35] <crutchy> i could try adapting something for perl. it might take me 6 months though :/
[13:38:36] <Bytram> and, it would be handy with things like H<sub>2</sub>O
[13:38:59] <crutchy> *raw and void tag
[13:39:21] <crutchy> void tags of course don't need balancing
[13:39:26] <Bytram> crutchy: IIRC there is/was a hook to use HTML tidy to clean up the HTML
[13:39:48] <crutchy> that would be better then
[13:39:49] <crutchy> :)
[13:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, your call: leave the ugly hack in that appears to work perfectly for journal text (html and pot) and fix the balance_tags not being done to journals
[13:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> or vice versa
[13:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> really not going to have time for both today
[13:41:25] <crutchy> tmb, send the page through geocitiesizer to fix up html
[13:42:14] <paulej72> blalance tags, is probably not super critical as it will only break a user’s journal.
[13:42:22] <paulej72> keep that one for later
[13:42:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:42:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya and they can always edit it
[13:43:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to look for whatzit then
[13:43:13] <crutchy> food?
[13:43:19] <paulej72> not like the submit title bug that I fixed, that was far reaching and could break stuff for other users.
[13:43:39] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: unrelated question, but ISTR you are using google's noto fonts? (UTF-8) was wondering how big your files are and need a link to get 'em (14pt text in HexChat to use Unifont CSUR is getting painful)
[13:44:05] <crutchy> paulej72, was that related to submission titles being truncated in the submission queue page?
[13:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you check it on comment subjects too?
[13:44:40] <paulej72> no, but I did change that to show the full title while I was fixing the other bug
[13:44:52] * Bytram wanders over to dev...
[13:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, still using unifont csur cause noto doesn't do monospace
[13:45:21] <paulej72> I think the comment was better written the submit plugin
[13:45:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.google.com
[13:45:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google Noto Fonts
[13:46:04] <Bytram> on dev, a comment title of "this<sup>goes<sup>up</sup>and</sup>down" becomes: "thisgoesupanddown"
[13:46:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> good, didn't think we allowed tags in them.
[13:47:01] <Bytram> which, though it looks weird, is preferable to forcing spaces in; user can add 'em if they want 'em
[13:49:11] <paulej72> why would Noto need differnt fonts for differnt languages. Unicode font should just work
[13:49:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me
[13:50:05] <paulej72> I guess it is not unicode?
[13:50:12] <Bytram> paulej72: I dunno for sure, but it would allow a user to select different fonts (i.e. perceived to be better rendered) for one language and a different font for another
[13:50:37] <crutchy> i kinda wish i had an ide
[13:50:51] <Bytram> think outside just HTML -- e.g. LibreOffice, etc.
[13:51:04] <crutchy> maybe i need to break up my code a bit more
[13:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's unicode but they only put certain codepoints into each file
[14:07:56] <crutchy> coffee++
[14:07:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 903
[14:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:10:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 904
[14:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> bingo
[14:12:03] <swiss> paulej72: very cool
[14:14:10] <Bytram> hmmm, http://www.computerworld.com
[14:14:24] * Bytram taps monopoly on the shoulder
[14:14:59] <paulej72> Bytram: monopoly puked on that excessive var list
[14:15:22] <Bytram> and THAT is why I do testing! =)
[14:15:49] <Bytram> http://www.computerworld.com
[14:17:00] <crutchy> Bytram, i think monopoly doesn't respond when the URL contains the title
[14:17:28] <Bytram> yup, seems to be the case.
[14:17:35] <crutchy> though i'm not sure about encoding thingys
[14:17:59] * crutchy has never used curl
[14:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you're merged and pull request in.
[14:26:40] <swiss> coffee--
[14:26:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 903
[14:26:46] <swiss> curl++
[14:26:46] <Bender> karma - curl: 0
[14:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> curl++
[14:26:54] <Bender> karma - curl: 1
[14:26:55] <swiss> wtf
[14:27:06] <swiss> !downers curl
[14:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> !whodown curl
[14:27:12] <Bender> downers of curl are: crutchy: -1
[14:27:20] <swiss> crutchy: tsk tsk
[14:27:25] <swiss> curl is beautiful
[14:27:34] * TheMightyBuzzard spock-eyebrow's crutchy
[14:27:53] <crutchy> php does it all
[14:28:32] <crutchy> fsockopen++
[14:28:32] <Bender> karma - fsockopen: 1
[14:30:34] <crutchy> !whendown curl
[14:30:38] <crutchy> :/
[14:31:06] <crutchy> dammit bender i want a fixed width table
[14:31:12] <swiss> off to work!
[14:31:20] <Bytram> !hoedown -- kick up your heels
[14:32:18] <crutchy> wait a minute i thought you didn't like country music :p
[14:32:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> !hodown -- kick up her heels
[14:33:07] * Bytram imagines square dancing to rock and roll
[14:34:50] <crutchy> i think tmb was thinking horizontally
[14:34:50] <crutchy> or violently
[14:35:22] <crutchy> black hoe down we have a black hoe down. bird down in the city
[14:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> sposed either would have made sense
[14:37:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> channeling EF now, crutchy?
[14:37:20] <crutchy> i dunno. it just came out. weird eh
[14:37:58] * crutchy returns to gedit
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[18:20:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Frontier in Error-Correcting Codes - http://sylnt.us - over-here-we-use-moderation
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[19:51:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lift Weights—Improve your Memory - http://sylnt.us - study-exercise-and-then-sleep-on-it
[20:31:22] <paulej72> Konomi: you know you are a geek when you can hear such whine and know exactly what it is from. Is it my power supply or is it the flyback transformer on that old crt
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[21:21:48] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: http://thedailywtf.com
[21:51:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Breaking Artificial Sweetener's Grip - http://sylnt.us - better-than-nothing?
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[22:38:05] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:38:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 904
[22:41:47] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy
[22:42:18] * JamesNZ looks around for exec
[22:42:20] <crutchy> mornin
[22:42:23] <Leebert> er... $2,040.01?
[22:42:29] <JamesNZ> \o
[22:42:35] <Leebert> who's the smart alec...
[22:42:40] <crutchy> lol
[22:42:54] <crutchy> not me
[22:44:42] <crutchy> http://logs.sylnt.us looks very suspicious though
[22:45:20] <crutchy> so does the following line after that
[22:45:51] <crutchy> :D
[22:46:07] * chromas whistles nonchalantly
[22:46:17] * crutchy is jealous
[22:48:05] <Leebert> I'm not sure if I should be amused or terrified that I've found an IRC channel filled with people weirder than I am. :)
[22:48:25] <JamesNZ> You should definitely be terrified.
[22:49:09] <juggs> What is this channel of which you speak Leebert ?
[22:49:53] <Leebert> Oh. Um. You wouldn't want to go there.
[22:50:00] <Leebert> :D
[22:50:05] <juggs> :P
[22:50:30] <Leebert> http://www.youtube.com
[22:50:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Office - Creed Thoughts - YouTube
[22:50:45] <Leebert> That's what this is all about, right?
[23:07:57] <crutchy> maybe he's channeling EF too?
[23:08:48] <crutchy> JamesNZ, exec is in the batcave cos i been tinkering with its insides
[23:09:29] <chromas> crutchy: s/er/l/
[23:09:29] <SedBot9000> <chromas> <crutchy> JamesNZ, exec is in the batcave cos i been tinkling with its insides
[23:09:40] <chromas> also /with //
[23:13:25] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Sounds squishy :P
[23:16:27] <crutchy> its increblyish saucyness
[23:16:53] <crutchy> with a dash of tama and a hint of ciri
[23:20:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Employers Turning to Data Analysis to Assist Recruitment - http://sylnt.us - data-is-my-new-resume
[23:20:31] <Leebert> I'm turning into such an Amtrak Guest Rewards point junkie.
[23:20:53] <Leebert> Given that I was a foaming hater of things like supermarket cards, this is bizzarre.
[23:21:18] <chromas> You could compare points with NCommander
[23:21:35] <NCommander> w00t
[23:21:41] <NCommander> Leebert, I'm about to make Select status on Amtrak
[23:22:49] <Leebert> I'm 226 points from 2015 Select status.
[23:23:07] <Leebert> And just about to book a trip on the Silver Meteor...
[23:23:26] <Leebert> s/Meteor/Star/
[23:23:26] <SedBot9000> <Leebert> And just about to book a trip on the Silver Star...
[23:23:32] <Leebert> I always get them confused.
[23:23:32] <NCommander> Leebert, w00t
[23:23:49] <NCommander> I did the Empire Builder and the Late Shore Limited in sleeper this year
[23:23:52] <NCommander> s/Late/Lake/g :-)
[23:23:56] <NCommander> s/Late/Lake/ :-)
[23:23:59] <NCommander> ...
[23:24:01] <Leebert> I burned 60,000 points 2 years ago on a cross-country trip with a bedroom.
[23:24:14] <Leebert> I'm up to almost 54,000 points.
[23:24:19] <Leebert> I MIGHT have a train problem. :)
[23:24:19] <NCommander> I was able to upgrade to bedroom from roomette on the superliners for ~200 dollars
[23:24:23] <NCommander> On the Empire Builder
[23:24:25] <NCommander> So worth it
[23:24:27] <Leebert> Yeah
[23:24:37] <Leebert> Empire Builder was the freebie route I took.
[23:24:41] <Leebert> to PDX
[23:24:45] <NCommander> Seattle here
[23:24:58] <NCommander> I took the Cascades to PDX though
[23:25:06] <NCommander> <3 PDX Union Station, one of the nicest surviving ones on the west coast
[23:25:14] <Leebert> Gotcha. Yeah, I did WAS to Chicago.
[23:25:24] <Leebert> Yeah. I love train stations.
[23:25:27] <NCommander> I'm working on trying to ride almost all the routes
[23:25:32] <NCommander> I've done the following
[23:25:52] <Leebert> Sadly, I tend to only roll on the NEC or Silver (Star|Meteor).
[23:25:58] <NCommander> You can do a lot on the NEC
[23:26:12] <NCommander> I did both the Maple Leaf and the NYP-Montreal one
[23:26:27] <NCommander> Amtrak had a special: 50 dollars round trip NYP to Montreal
[23:26:34] <NCommander> I'll put up w/ 12 hours each way for that price
[23:26:36] <Leebert> Yeah
[23:26:46] <NCommander> I've done the Downeaster which was interesting
[23:26:54] <Leebert> On my way to work, sometimes I'll skip MARC and take Amtrak from BWI to WAS.
[23:26:55] <NCommander> (Boston, North Station -> Portland, ME)
[23:27:09] <Leebert> Typically runs $15-21, but I get the minimum 100 points
[23:27:21] <NCommander> I did that with the Downeaster, $10 dollars, but got 100 points
[23:27:27] <NCommander> Pity I'm not living on an Amtrak route ATM
[23:27:36] * NCommander has the beautiful Alaska Railroad though
[23:27:38] <Leebert> Although I met a dude on the Acela last month who would take an Amtrak contracted bus for like $4 one-way and get the 100-point minimum.
[23:27:57] <NCommander> Guest Rewards is so abusable if you know how :-)
[23:28:04] <Leebert> The sad thing is they still make $$.
[23:28:06] <NCommander> It was even better when you could exchange points with Continential
[23:28:34] * NCommander always loves Amtrak commericals
[23:28:40] <Leebert> I've actually been pondering switching from heavy Holiday Inn Express to La Quinta so I can get Amtrak points.
[23:29:18] <NCommander> Generally not worth it
[23:29:21] <NCommander> IMHO
[23:29:29] <NCommander> Keep hotel points with hotels
[23:29:32] <Leebert> Fair 'nuff. I like my HIX points anyway.
[23:30:04] <NCommander> I dislike Priority Club
[23:30:16] <Leebert> But I do need to figure out what to do with all of these Amtrak points. I'm thinking Southwest Chief.
[23:30:19] <NCommander> Well, most hotel programs in general, but PC takes forever to earn anything
[23:30:25] <NCommander> Leebert, The Auto Train
[23:30:32] <NCommander> That one been on my list for $!@$ing ever
[23:30:35] <Leebert> That's one option I've considered.
[23:30:48] <Lagg> Hrm, looks like the dash submission was well received. Will try to do more of this. Just about the only thing I look at that could be called a news source besides soylent is a mailing list or two.
[23:30:53] <Leebert> I keep wanting to load the motorcycle on and ride around Orlando for a few days during January or something.
[23:31:13] <NCommander> Leebert, on my "must have" routes, I'm still itching to get the Texas Eagle at some point
[23:31:26] <NCommander> I'm also *really* hoping Amtrak brings back the Pioneer
[23:31:33] <NCommander> I'd fly out to PDX for that one
[23:31:52] <Leebert> I wish the Sunset Limited still went all the way through.
[23:31:54] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[23:31:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03I Like Trains - YouTube
[23:31:59] <Leebert> Would love to visit friends in Pensacola.
[23:32:12] <NCommander> Leebert, pfft, I wish Amtrak still had connections to Mexico
[23:32:23] <NCommander> (well, ok, the pre-Amtrak railroads did)
[23:32:29] <NCommander> I also want to take VIA Rail's Super Canadian
[23:32:36] <Leebert> Oh, that's another thing... VIA Rail
[23:32:38] <NCommander> VIA actually still has berths
[23:32:42] <NCommander> I want to try them so badly
[23:32:44] <NCommander> ;.;
[23:32:46] <Leebert> To Churchill.
[23:33:17] <NCommander> I wouldn't mind doing Vancover to Toronto
[23:33:26] <NCommander> I will tell you do, if you ever do Toronto -> New York, its a fucking mind screw
[23:33:39] <NCommander> The Amtrak train is operated by VIA in Canada, complete with their crews and cafe car and such
[23:33:41] <NCommander> Its surreal
[23:33:55] <NCommander> The Amtrak crews actually hand over their engine to a VIA crew on the border
[23:34:13] <Leebert> That's gotta be weird.
[23:34:20] <NCommander> Yeah
[23:34:28] <NCommander> They even stock the cafe as though its a VIA rail train
[23:34:31] <Leebert> Heck, I find a train crew on the NEC without a Boston accent to be weird. :)
[23:34:33] <NCommander> So you can get an awesome cheese plate
[23:34:38] <NCommander> But no hot dogs ;.;
[23:34:44] <NCommander> (I love Amtrak hotdogs, they just taste better)
[23:35:14] <NCommander> I've done the Silver Star, never done the Meteor, though IMHO, there isn't THAT much difference
[23:35:33] <Leebert> Not really.
[23:35:41] <Leebert> Although reversing back out of Tampa is kinda fun.
[23:35:42] <NCommander> Leebert, try riding the Vermonter sometime
[23:35:55] <NCommander> Er, the Star goes to Tampa, the Meteor bypasses it
[23:36:00] <NCommander> Or I'm misremembering which train I road
[23:36:04] <Leebert> Why being on a train backing up is fun, I cannot explain.
[23:36:20] <NCommander> One of my favorite rides was when I spent New Years on the Cardinals
[23:36:28] <crutchy> Leebert, cos its kinkier
[23:36:30] <NCommander> In economy on that one, but it was fun
[23:36:32] <Leebert> 19:23 < Leebert> I always get them confused.
[23:36:51] <Leebert> Oh, I want to do a holiday on a train.
[23:37:18] <Leebert> I have a tradition of riding Acela first class back home from work on the day before Thanksgiving. Last year the attendant was wearing a turkey hat.
[23:37:40] <Leebert> They always look at me like I'm insane when I board the first-class car for a 22-minute ride. :)
[23:39:34] <crutchy> there's a train that goes to tibet apparently needs supplemental o2
[23:39:50] <crutchy> would be an interesting experience
[23:40:00] <Leebert> Nice. I don't have much outside-the-US train experience.
[23:40:07] <Leebert> I have done the Chunnel, though.
[23:40:38] <crutchy> there was a doco on how they made the line too. pretty clever engineering
[23:41:01] <Leebert> I'll have to check it out.
[23:41:29] <Leebert> I was eyeing up a train tour of Europe. Alas, not enough time.
[23:42:10] <crutchy> would be very touristy i imagine. rriver cruises are all the rage in europe too
[23:42:13] <Leebert> The Beijing-Lhasa Express? Neat!
[23:43:40] <crutchy> not that i would know. i never been out of straya
[23:44:06] <Leebert> Straya?
[23:44:38] <chromas> the land of brown snakes and dropbear sshds
[23:44:51] <Leebert> Well that clears it up. :)
[23:45:12] <chromas> Wallabies and didgeridoos
[23:45:24] <Leebert> Oh, THAT side of the planet.
[23:46:35] <Leebert> I was in Seattle a few weeks ago. Someone insisted that I went to the Pike Place Starbucks to get them a souvenier. While I was waiting outside, some guy was playing a didgeridoo. I must admit that I did not enjoy it.
[23:48:09] <chromas> He was probably holding it wrong
[23:48:43] <Leebert> Anyway, NCommander, always nice to meet a fellow train aficionado. :) Try to find your way to the NEC again some time soon; the ACS-64's are really starting to take over.
[23:49:12] * Leebert is off to do something at least nominally useful.
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[23:50:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Hi guys
[23:50:40] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI Ethanol-fueled
[23:50:52] <Ethanol-fueled> hi
[23:50:55] <Ethanol-fueled> lol
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[23:52:42] <NCommander> Leebert, neat!