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[00:35:32] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[00:35:33] <exec> Saturday, 18 October 2014 @ 7:35 pm CDT - Chicago, IL
[00:36:06] <crutchy> everyone's out ravin;
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[00:50:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Comet "Siding Spring" Closes-in on Mars - http://sylnt.us - Thundarr-the-Barbarian
[01:02:16] <Landon> ugh, licensing
[01:02:24] <Landon> ran into a ship of theseus problem wrt GPL
[01:03:00] <Landon> at what point does a program evolve from using the original GPL source to just having used it as inspiration :\
[01:03:37] <crutchy> did SS Toecheese drop anchor on your code?
[01:04:11] <chromas> pulseaudio-- # for things turning up my volume when they play sounds
[01:04:11] <Bender> karma - pulseaudio: 0
[01:04:25] <Landon> hah, no, I just want to get the i's dotted and t's crossed before anyone gets grumpy
[01:04:52] <crutchy> vlc++ for being installed on my desktop
[01:04:52] <Bender> karma - vlc: 2
[01:05:11] <crutchy> vlc-- for not remembering my last playlist by default
[01:05:11] <Bender> karma - vlc: 1
[01:06:26] <crutchy> systemd++ for an awesome conversation starter
[01:06:26] <Bender> karma - systemd: -2
[01:06:43] <crutchy> "hey baby... i use systemd... wanna go have sex?"
[01:07:04] <crutchy> "omg please undressctl me now!"
[01:07:20] <chromas> sudo pantsctl start fun
[01:07:25] <chromas> even better
[01:07:58] * chromas wonders if *ctl is a systemd thing or if they're just poopularizing it
[01:08:18] <crutchy> ctrl was taken
[01:08:38] <crutchy> 'katarel'
[01:11:45] <chromas> yeah but everything's got a ctl program now. localectl, smartctl, balooctl
[01:12:21] <crutchy> they couldn't use LOAD "*",8,1 either cos that would be just blasphemy
[01:13:09] <chromas> 1541II++
[01:13:09] <Bender> karma - 1541ii: 1
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[01:47:18] * Konomi plays the death tune for firefox 2x.x after getting the latest security push which is 3x.x
[01:49:17] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[01:49:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[01:50:46] <juggs> oh dear :(
[01:52:34] <Konomi> I ended up going with classic theme restorer though it looks okay
[01:52:56] <crutchy> konomi, do you have a github thingy?
[01:53:06] <Konomi> nope
[01:53:19] <Konomi> what is this thangled github thing you refer to
[01:53:20] <crutchy> aww. we can't spy on your code
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[01:53:22] <Konomi> cvs all the damn way
[02:01:37] <SirFinkus> http://www.livescience.com
[02:01:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03Puppy-Sized Spider Surprises Scientist in Rainforest
[02:01:41] <SirFinkus> FUCK IT, I'M OUT
[02:03:27] <crutchy> that's a big fukken spider
[02:03:43] <Konomi> just wants to be friends
[02:04:26] <SirFinkus> "Yet despite all that, the spider doesn't pose a threat to humans. Even if it bites you, "a chicken can probably do more damage," Naskrecki said."
[02:04:29] <SirFinkus> yeah, ok
[02:04:57] * crutchy is surprised its not in australia
[02:04:59] <SirFinkus> until it lays eggs in your house, and hundreds of them hatch one day
[02:05:51] <crutchy> as long as they all pay board
[02:06:10] <crutchy> and don't go installing systemd on your pyewtas
[02:06:28] <SirFinkus> I remember an old shitty movie called arachnophobia, apparently it was a documentary
[02:07:18] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:07:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Arachnophobia (1990) Theatrical Trailer - YouTube
[02:08:01] <Konomi> the ending of that movie is so priceles lol
[02:09:14] <SirFinkus> the end boss in the movie is that spider they just found
[02:10:30] <chromas> is that the one where David Arquette becomes a wrestler and starts pimping AT&T long distance?
[02:11:28] <crutchy> we have spiders like this in australia https://www.youtube.com
[02:11:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Giant Spider! World's Biggest Spider Giant Huntsman Spider - YouTube
[02:11:41] <crutchy> huntsmans are creepy fokkers
[02:22:25] <Konomi> http://i1.minus.com
[02:22:28] <Konomi> after tweaking
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[02:28:33] <SpallsHurgenson> that guy's voice in the video annoys me
[02:36:19] <Konomi> your 0s and 1s annoy me!
[02:40:26] <SpallsHurgenson> it's the accent :)
[02:41:12] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I've been known to sneak a "2" in there sometimes :)
[02:42:34] <crutchy> Konomi, the funky blue border fade effect looks cool. mine doesn't have that :(
[02:42:47] <ar> crutchy: it's kde/kwin stuff
[02:43:59] <chromas> join us, crutchy
[02:44:10] * chromas says, having switched mostly away from kde
[02:44:19] <ar> actually, i switched from kde to dwm
[02:44:39] <ar> but if i had to use something other than dwm, kde it would be
[02:45:05] * crutchy is using mix of xfce and gnome
[02:45:11] <ar> ewww
[02:45:17] <chromas> I'm sorry to hear that, crutchy
[02:45:20] <chromas> at least, the gnome part
[02:45:30] <crutchy> mostly xfce
[02:45:42] <ar> and you're probably using systemd, because most gnome requires that these days
[02:45:53] <crutchy> but i like the nautilus browser and gedit
[02:46:08] <ar> kate > gedit; konqueror > nautilus
[02:46:12] <crutchy> ar, i'm only using libsystemd-login0 cos dbus depends on it
[02:46:13] * chromas is using systemd because it's awesome
[02:46:30] * SpallsHurgenson ducks 'n covers
[02:46:32] <crutchy> init is pid 1
[02:46:42] <ar> systemd needs to die
[02:47:06] * crutchy hasn't experienced full systemd powahs
[02:47:14] <chromas> need to get more people on uselessd then
[02:47:24] <chromas> on developing
[02:47:44] <ar> lennart & systemd are like jj abrams & startrek into darkness
[02:47:49] <crutchy> Konomi will be our savior
[02:47:53] <ar> annoying and utter crap
[02:47:55] <crutchy> soylentd
[02:48:01] <chromas> systemd doesn't have lens flair does it
[02:48:10] <crutchy> lensflarectl
[02:48:23] <chromas> 15 piece of flare
[02:51:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Want MatLab on Your Resume to Get a Job at Google - http://sylnt.us - Mathamagician-of-Digitopolis
[02:52:13] <crutchy> matlab is awesome
[02:52:16] <crutchy> matlab++
[02:52:16] <Bender> karma - matlab: 2
[02:52:36] * crutchy unfortunately hasn't used it for about 4 years :/
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[03:18:32] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha, I just took a piss, and that stream was thick.
[03:18:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Gonna create a channel called #NSFW
[03:19:08] <JamesNZ> TMI.
[03:19:25] <Ethanol-fueled> James, have a sense of humour.
[03:19:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Computer scientists work with streams regularly. The thicker the stream, the better.
[03:19:55] <JamesNZ> That wasn't even funny :P
[03:20:06] <Ethanol-fueled> As more relief is transmitted.
[03:20:24] <JamesNZ> I think the physical connotations will drown out any parallel to CS.
[03:20:27] <Ethanol-fueled> What's funny to you? Tell us a joke.
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[03:20:41] <JamesNZ> Hmm.
[03:21:42] <juggs> o.O
[03:21:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Before you're through deciding, STEM degree holder Mike Judge made a joke about narrow urethrae
[03:22:10] <JamesNZ> Ewww.
[03:22:40] * JamesNZ cannot think of a joke, evidently does not have a sense of humour
[03:23:05] <Ethanol-fueled> well that's a bummer....but at least you won't piss anybody off.
[03:23:23] <JamesNZ> Heh, indeed.
[03:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> do you want to know how to piss people off?
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[03:24:42] <JamesNZ> Sure :)
[03:26:11] <SpallsHurgenson> <sneeze>
[03:27:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay. The first trick is to ....uh, shit, I'm drunk.....uh, find a parallel situation that brings them pleasure and then do the opposite.
[03:28:00] <Ethanol-fueled> minimize their accomplishments. It's a classic trick: "What you did was good, but what I did was better when blah blah blah"
[03:29:12] * JamesNZ mentally notes to never do those things
[03:30:40] <Ethanol-fueled> "Oh, JamezNZ? He thinks he knows better but his solutions are unproven and his dream is a pipe-dream.
[03:31:00] <juggs> anyone with even an iota of a skin would just class such a statement as the utterance of an utterly self obsessed egotistical git and disregard it.
[03:31:04] <JamesNZ> :D
[03:31:26] <crutchy> juggs, s/git/svn/
[03:31:26] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <juggs> anyone with even an iota of a skin would just class such a statement as the utterance of an utterly self obsessed egotistical svn and disregard it.
[03:31:53] * juggs whacks crutchy
[03:32:02] <JamesNZ> crutchy++
[03:32:02] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 110
[03:32:04] * SpallsHurgenson groans
[03:32:06] <Ethanol-fueled> wow, crutchy, that was a wizard joke
[03:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> jamesNZ: your government is going to sodomize you up the arse.
[03:34:13] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: Oh?
[03:34:28] * JamesNZ is quite clueless about his governments actions
[03:35:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Abbos have Ebola
[03:35:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Abbos distribute Ebola throughout the population.
[03:35:38] <JamesNZ> Abbos?
[03:35:47] <JamesNZ> ~define abbos
[03:35:50] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3abbo: abbo, black aussi fella who wants a dolla m8
[03:36:17] <Ethanol-fueled> PFFBHTHBHTBH: Do Ho Hoo, wants a dolla m8
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[03:55:54] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:55:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03Aryan - Coonshootin Boogie - YouTube
[03:56:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Lets go get in the truck -- we're gon' shoot us some coons.
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[03:58:04] <SpallsHurgenson> every day I seem to get a bit fuzzier
[03:58:32] <Ethanol-fueled> PANZERKAMPFWAGEN
[03:59:07] <Ethanol-fueled> nazis RULE!
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[04:12:32] <chromas> should send him to the darknedgy server
[04:12:41] <chromas> or whatever the anon net one is
[04:13:07] <SpallsHurgenson> who, netcraft?
[04:13:52] <chromas> lol
[04:13:53] <chromas> ef
[04:13:53] <ciri> rofl
[04:14:11] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, the troll
[04:14:21] <chromas> he'd fit right in
[04:14:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, I've put him on ignore
[04:15:41] <SpallsHurgenson> his trolls were so pathetic and obvious; like a four-year old who has discovered curse words, he had no sophistication or artistry
[04:16:48] <chromas> maybe he's speshul
[04:18:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess I should take him off ignore again and see if he's gotten any better
[04:19:45] <chromas> well he was earlier, or yesterday or sometime, but not within the last hour
[04:20:04] <chromas> maybe a time-based ignore
[04:24:03] <SpallsHurgenson> might be more effort than its worth
[04:24:34] * juggs tasks chromas with crafting a time based bot to Kline based on comment content and weighting time of day for a given contributor (could reverse lookup the T.O.D. based on contributor's IP perhaps?) :D
[04:25:15] <juggs> that's a joke - we'd never delegate Klining to a bot
[04:25:38] <SpallsHurgenson> that's the sort of pleasure you reserve for fleshlings :)
[04:27:08] <chromas> yeah, the bot can handle +q and /kick based on Bender karma
[04:27:17] <chromas> >:D
[04:29:49] <juggs> does it make any difference ultimately? A fleshling doing it or a bot doing it that has been spec'd by the same fleshling? End result is likely to be mostly the same other than false positives (bug). Makes sense to take the fleshling outta the decision if we can formulate hard rules on what is / is not acceptable. As with anything it is "judgement" where automated systems fall down. The ruleset would be enormous. Bring on the AI!
[04:31:07] <chromas> well it could auto +q when the same message repeats more than twice within a couple seconds, like when he sprays a youtube link. then it qould -q after 10 seconds or something
[04:31:35] <crutchy> The following is a list of words I never want to hear on Soylent IRC again. Number one: bra. Number two: horny. Number three: family jewels."
[04:32:16] <JamesNZ> Those family jewels include a horny bra.
[04:32:27] <chromas> beat me to it :)
[04:32:33] <JamesNZ> :)
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[04:46:03] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:46:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03Panzer rollen in Afrika vor (English Subtitle) - YouTube
[04:46:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Do Ho HO.
[04:48:13] <Ethanol-fueled> PANZERDIVISION.
[04:49:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Panzer des Fuhrers ihr Britten habt acht!
[04:50:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Die sind zu eurer Vernichtung erdacht!
[04:50:17] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that satisfies that experiment
[04:51:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Sie furchten vor Tod und vor Tueufel sich nicht!
[04:51:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zero2Infinity Plans "Rockoon" Launches - http://sylnt.us - 2infinity&amp;B-ond
[04:51:43] <Ethanol-fueled> An ihnen der britischue Hochmucht zerbrighcht!
[04:52:08] <Ethanol-fueled> es resseln die Kettenm,
[04:52:21] <crutchy> ~translate en An ihnen der britischue Hochmucht zerbrighcht!
[04:52:22] <exec> [google translate] An ihnen der britischue Hochmucht zerbrighcht! (auto -> en): Zerbrighcht them the britischue Hochmucht!
[04:52:22] <Ethanol-fueled> es drohnt der motor
[04:52:43] <crutchy> pfft google translate--
[04:53:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Panzer rollen in Afrika vor,
[04:53:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Panzer Rollen in Afrika vor!
[04:54:18] <crutchy> In the navy, Yes, you can sail the seven seas...
[04:54:45] <crutchy> In the navy, Yes, you can put your mind at ease
[04:54:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Aw, yeah
[04:54:57] <Ethanol-fueled> GHaw haw!
[04:55:05] <crutchy> village_people++
[04:55:05] <Bender> karma - village_people: 1
[04:55:27] <juggs> frick me - must be saturday night
[04:56:15] <SpallsHurgenson> right, cause Sundays are Bee Gees night!
[04:56:30] <crutchy> we're cranking up the weirdness level to 11
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[04:57:02] <crutchy> its sunday arvo here
[04:57:15] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:57:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wehrmacht march song-Panzer Rollen in Afrika vor Lyrics - YouTube
[04:57:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Panzer de Fuhrer
[04:57:41] <crutchy> coffee++
[04:57:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 965
[04:57:52] <SpallsHurgenson> you and your weird upside down country
[04:58:40] <crutchy> we keep ourselves attached to the earth by tying our feet to tree branches with snakes
[04:59:21] <juggs> hmm to be fair - it's getting on 6am Sunday here, but I'm still in Saturday night mode so letting things slide a bit. The hammer is close to hand though.
[04:59:51] <crutchy> the hammer of justice
[05:00:43] <crutchy> does it fall at weirdness level 12?
[05:01:29] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:01:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03Data's session with Dr. Sigmund Freud PART2 - YouTube
[05:01:42] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, now "In the Navy" is looping in my head
[05:03:44] <juggs> Y M C A
[05:03:56] <juggs> ha! I just infected you with that!
[05:04:05] <juggs> I't worse than Ebola
[05:04:19] * juggs fails at typing 101
[05:04:34] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[05:04:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Duck Song - YouTube
[05:04:42] <crutchy> you know you wanna
[05:05:05] <crutchy> fuck 170+ million views ¡¿
[05:06:15] <crutchy> not quite as many views, but getting up there: http://www.youtube.com
[05:06:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03Potter Puppet Pals: The Mysterious Ticking Noise - YouTube
[05:06:28] <SpallsHurgenson> aaaaahhhh! theu've merged together! "Young man, there's no need to feel down... I said young man, pick yourself off the ground, I said young man, there's a place you can go... In the Navy! You can sail the seven seas!.... They have everything for you men to enjoy, you can hangout with all the boys..."
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[05:09:09] <crutchy> ...then he waddled away, waddle waddle.... till the very next day
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[05:10:35] <Ethanol-fueled> hehm fuckg off you sodsuckers.
[05:10:54] <crutchy> haaaarry potter, harry harry potter... dumbledore!
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[05:14:05] <juggs> sorry - possibly inappropriate, it's just a 1 hour k-line. We need to have a discussion about what / how we want the "official" channels moderated I think.
[05:14:23] <juggs> I can't be the single arbiter of this.
[05:22:24] <crutchy> ~suggest IRC op policy development
[05:22:31] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[05:23:10] <crutchy> juggs, it has been sort of started... http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[05:23:10] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03span dir="auto">IRC Policy
[05:23:21] * crutchy spanks NetCraft
[05:23:34] <drgibbon> confirmed
[05:27:14] <Konomi> crutchy: yeah that is kde as ar said I forgot it was even there ;p
[05:30:37] <juggs> I fecking hate using klines or other bannage on my own recognisance - I'm just one person with my own views. That's not a sane way to moderate anything unless we want a juggs echo chamber - and that would be a dull place to be! Thanks for the linky crutchy - I'll draft up something for the Ban policy section once I sleep my way out of Saturday night mode, but it will need community acceptance to go into force. I'm just not comfortable enforcing uni
[05:30:37] <juggs> lateral rules without consensus.
[05:31:48] <crutchy> i think the template was adapted from the editorial policy page. i just chucked some notes in about bots
[05:32:17] <crutchy> maybe add something to the board meeting agenda
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[05:32:26] <juggs> Maybe we need a community-members mailing list to throw these things around in
[05:32:53] <crutchy> irc seems like a good place to chat about it, esp since its about irc
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[05:34:08] <crutchy> xlefay was fairly liberal with his kicking policy.
[05:35:25] <crutchy> maybe something to start with: if someone expresses offense, the offender is cautioned. if the caution isn't heeded, the offender is kicked. if they come back and continue to offend, 15 minute channel ban
[05:35:26] <Konomi> http://i3.minus.com
[05:35:35] <Konomi> wonder if I get extra points for capturing EF's kline
[05:36:08] <crutchy> lol definitely
[05:36:18] * crutchy likes the snow bunny ;P
[05:36:54] <Konomi> it's miku you, you newbie
[05:37:07] * crutchy is ashamed
[05:37:21] <crutchy> ~define miku
[05:37:23] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Miku: A miku is a goddess of a person: beautiful, intelligent, fun. The kind of person everyone wishes they could be.
[05:37:29] <Konomi> >.>
[05:37:36] <Konomi> ~define Hatsune Miku
[05:37:37] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Hatsune Miku: A famous VOCALOID artist in Japan who is in her teens - she created many Japanese songs that are currently very famous in Japan and North America - 2 of them are Worlds End Dancehall and Matryoshka (R...
[05:45:46] <juggs> Spalls quit message is interesting. Why a kline rather than a chan ban? Pre-emptive strike I guess. Experience tells a chanban results in the banee popping up in multiple other chans to spew the same crud until dealt with in those chans too. Cue whack-a-mole. Chanban makes sense on the likes of freenode, efnet, underworld etc. But we're not there. A 1 hour timeout kline for EF seems to deter them while being strictly time-limited so they are not pe
[05:45:46] <juggs> rmanently excluded.
[05:48:57] <juggs> Hence why we need community policy on this. What rules do you wish SN official channels to adhere to regards moderation? I'm not going to dictate on this.
[05:51:17] <crutchy> juggs, i added a bit to the wiki section
[05:53:34] <crutchy> possibly worth looking at freenode policy as well for ideas
[05:54:44] <crutchy> i think as long as it's spelled out in the motd that the official channels are moderated, people can talk shit on other channels
[05:54:57] <SirFinkus> "maybe something to start with: if someone expresses offense, the offender is cautioned." this is bullshit, it offends me. You should be cautioned for it.
[05:55:18] * crutchy feels cautioned
[05:55:46] <SirFinkus> :)
[05:55:48] <crutchy> maybe we need a #biffo channel :p
[05:56:00] <crutchy> where people can 'take it outside;
[05:59:01] <SirFinkus> I think people should only be banned for spam, harrassment (libel and threats, that kind of stuff), and doxing
[05:59:56] <SirFinkus> network abuse too, like if you're running a botnet on soylent irc
[06:08:07] <juggs> It strikes me that when one sets hard regs, the rascal posts up something at reg - 0000.0001 and dances on in the grey zone while the enforcers of $reg wring their hands and debate whether it was a transgression of rule N or not. I need to think on this a lot, unless we are just going to declare IRC unenforceable as a wild west and tag it as such on the main site.
[06:09:33] <SirFinkus> I haven't yet heard an argument for censorship that has convinced me
[06:10:18] <SirFinkus> granted, it isn't my channel or website, so I have very little say in the matter
[06:10:42] <SirFinkus> and I haven't made any contributions to the codebase or to running the servers
[06:14:52] <juggs> Personally, I am inclined to go with IRC = unenforcable = wild west. People can change hosts, ips and nicks on a whim, $lines are stupid as they are worked around in less than a minute. That's whack-a-mole levels of dumb. Maybe best left as an open channel and allow the sewage and nuggets spew forth and let the recipient filter as suits them.
[06:16:50] <juggs> I honestly don't know what is for the best - hence throwing open for discussion.
[06:19:26] <crutchy> juggs, we can always create #wildwest
[06:19:54] <crutchy> good thing about irc... cheap real estate
[06:20:11] * chromas hogs all the channels
[06:20:32] <crutchy> chromas is the sheriff of #wildwest
[06:21:53] <crutchy> SirFinkus, the thoughts that i put in the policy page would be rarely if ever a need to use
[06:21:57] <SirFinkus> Well, if you believe that, why kline EF? Especially when there isn't a policy yet? Obviously a lot of his opinions are inflammatory, but I fail to see how they've disrupted the channel. Why should anyone else's speech be allowed in mainchan? Because the vast majority of people agree with it?
[06:22:15] <crutchy> even e-f is tame on the scale of irc trolls
[06:24:04] <crutchy> that ciri otoh... its a real hornbag, chasin after nc and trying to crack onto every man and his dog :p
[06:26:20] <crutchy> SirFinkus, without policy juggs just used his judgement at the time. can't expect any more/less. every op would likely be different
[06:27:11] <SirFinkus> I'm just trying to square what he did with "Personally, I am inclined to go with IRC = unenforcable = wild west."
[06:27:39] <crutchy> the kline prolly got him thinking
[06:28:05] <crutchy> s/prolly/obviously/
[06:28:05] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> the kline obviously got him thinking
[06:29:49] <SirFinkus> as far as irc policy goes, I'm pretty sure klines are the nuclear option on most of the networks I've been on
[06:31:33] <crutchy> at least ef will have something to boast about
[06:32:10] <SirFinkus> he's probably penning a journal post right now
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[06:41:01] <crutchy> bye netcruft
[06:41:19] <crutchy> :(
[06:41:27] <chromas> crutchy confirms it? NetCraft is dead?
[06:42:15] <crutchy> http://art.ngfiles.com
[06:42:42] <chromas> Joey Padilla eh
[06:42:48] * chromas webs it
[06:43:58] <chromas> too ambiguous
[06:44:10] <crutchy> looking at konomi's desktop, i'm thinking kde might we worth a shot. it looks pretty nice
[06:44:22] <Konomi> ;p
[06:44:38] <SirFinkus> I think KDE is the best linux desktop at this point
[06:46:26] <chromas> kde++
[06:46:26] <Bender> karma - kde: 1
[06:50:20] <Konomi> I run it on my netbook too
[06:50:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Potential Dark Matter Detection via X-Rays from the Sun - http://sylnt.us - dark-matter-from-bright-sun
[06:50:48] <chromas> that's not your netbook?
[06:51:02] <Konomi> this is my big pc netbook is beside it
[06:51:21] <chromas> 1366x768
[06:51:28] <Konomi> yeah large laptop ;p
[06:51:39] <crutchy> my pc is just an overspec'ed jukebox atm :/
[06:51:42] <Konomi> http://www.mytoshiba.com.au
[06:52:04] <chromas> Why is it all non-full-HD tvs are 1366x768 instead of 1280x720, which is what non-full-hd is? >:(
[06:52:11] <crutchy> all my notebooks are toshiba
[06:52:15] <crutchy> toshiba++
[06:52:15] <Bender> karma - toshiba: 1
[06:52:30] <Konomi> http://www.asus.com
[06:52:32] <Konomi> netbook
[06:52:45] <crutchy> is 1366x768 = SD?
[06:52:49] <Konomi> note both laptops have had their drives replaced with ssd
[06:53:04] <Konomi> /bin/sh: 1: aspectratio: not found
[06:53:08] <Konomi> hmm
[06:53:15] <Konomi> The aspect ratio for 1366 by 768 is: 683:384
[06:53:27] <Konomi> it's close to 16:9 basically
[06:54:09] <chromas> there's 'HD' which is 1280x720, then then 'full HD' which is 1920x1080. And I've never seen a (non-full) HD tv give a good picture with a computer
[06:54:21] <chromas> whatever resolution, it looks blocky
[06:54:25] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[06:54:45] <Konomi> standardized HDTV 720p/1080i displays, “HD ready”, Used in many Windows 8 netbooks 1366 × 768 683:384 16:9 0.999 1,049,088
[06:54:46] <juggs> SirFinkus, I think I've made my position clear. I don't like using $lines or chan bans, kick bans or any associated hammer nonsense. They're non-productive. But this is what I want to throw out to discussion. Do we need moderation on SN "official" channels? I want to seed that discussion without polluting it with my own thoughts as I think my own position is out of kilter with the community at large. I'm just IRC op and as such I must op this IRC s
[06:54:47] <juggs> erver to the wants and need of the users. It's not for me to make judgement calls - which is the position I find myself in. I'm not at all comfortable with that, as we already see people disagree with my judgement. I'm fine with that disagreement. Let's just get it all out in the open and work out what we do want and go from there rather than snipe from the shadows retroactively.
[06:55:42] <Konomi> chromas: it's actually the majority of the display size on computers now btw
[06:55:44] <Konomi> chromas: http://www.w3schools.com
[06:55:51] <chromas> yeah, notebooks used to be 1440x900
[06:56:16] <chromas> then they increased our chocolate rations to 1366
[06:56:45] <Konomi> it's honestly not a bad res I prefer 16:10 though
[06:57:10] <SirFinkus> I think I get it, I just disagree with the kline before any decisions are made
[06:57:11] * chromas wants a square
[06:57:33] <SirFinkus> I've been in the position of trying to be a moderator or op without any clear-cut rules, and it can be frustrating
[06:57:39] <Konomi> a ban would've been more approiate but considering EFs history kline is pretty acceptable ;p
[06:59:32] <crutchy> he's been begging for a kline for a while
[06:59:54] <crutchy> what's his unofficial quit msg?
[06:59:59] <Konomi> has EF ever said anything of use yet?
[07:00:02] <crutchy> 'klined for this post'
[07:00:09] <chromas> True. He's said a few times to do it; wouldn't want to disrespect our users' wishes
[07:00:34] <crutchy> ef's a smart guy, and he's pretty goofy. good to have around esp when its quiet :)
[07:01:11] <Konomi> all I got from that line crutchy is it's nice to be around him when he never opens his mouth ;p
[07:01:25] <SirFinkus> Ok, well I'd argue that he hasn't violated any laws as far as I can tell, and he hasn't spammed the channel
[07:01:38] <chromas> recently
[07:01:51] <SirFinkus> has he in the past?
[07:01:54] <Konomi> he's spammed it before
[07:02:03] <crutchy> i'm pretty dumb, so if ef is banned for being dumb, i'm toast
[07:02:19] <Konomi> your dumb ins't annoying... yet
[07:02:26] <Konomi> god help you all if I ever get an op mwahha
[07:02:37] <SirFinkus> if his spamming interferes with the irc discussion, I'd support a ban
[07:02:43] <crutchy> and as far as spamming channels, i think my dumbot is prolly the worst offender
[07:03:27] <SirFinkus> but just stupid bitching about the "niggers/kikes/spics"? don't see that as a reason for a ban
[07:03:33] <crutchy> esp cos it has antiflooding measures, so for a long command it will flood a channel slowly :p
[07:03:47] <chromas> SirFinkus: especially if it's true :D
[07:03:53] * chromas backs away
[07:04:00] <SirFinkus> oh shit
[07:04:06] <crutchy> wtf is a kike?
[07:04:10] <crutchy> ~define kike
[07:04:11] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3kike: A racist name for a Jewish person.
[07:04:15] <SirFinkus> racial slur for jews
[07:04:15] <crutchy> lol
[07:04:17] <crutchy> ok
[07:04:26] <juggs> shheesh his kline already expired - it was only 1 hour. We do need to nail this down though as to moderation. I'm not prepared to be sole moderator.
[07:04:28] <crutchy> ud knows everything
[07:04:40] <Konomi> soylent already lost anyone who cared about any sort of political correctness ages ago
[07:04:46] <Konomi> so EF isn't going to do much
[07:04:51] <Konomi> besides being annoying
[07:04:57] <crutchy> juggs, delegate it to a bot. then if it fucks up it can be blamed on bugs
[07:05:13] <Konomi> juggs: I'm bored I have nothing else to talk about *sniff*
[07:05:14] * chromas votes for Bender
[07:05:48] <crutchy> Konomi, you should join #
[07:05:50] <juggs> meeehh - suck it up bitch, file a bug-report $url
[07:05:54] <crutchy> always something goin on in there
[07:05:58] <SirFinkus> I don't mean to dwell on it, it's just something I feel strongly about juggs
[07:06:03] <Konomi> something interesting?
[07:06:07] <crutchy> and when there's nothin else goin on, there's always 'yo mama'
[07:06:14] <Konomi> I don't care who juggs bans
[07:06:34] <chromas> ~define interesting
[07:06:36] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3interesting: (adj) Something which arouses no interest at all. Used to politely avoid admitting this, which indirectly expresses your indifference.
[07:06:46] <Konomi> since I'm pretty sure juggs would have nightmares if he ever made an unwarranted ban I feel pretty safe ;p
[07:06:47] <chromas> interesting
[07:06:50] * Konomi runs for it
[07:07:35] <crutchy> bender needs autoban powahs
[07:07:51] <crutchy> then everyone can throw rocks at bender instead of juggs
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[07:09:09] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com the last I'll post on the matter tonight, unless discussion flares up again, he argues my case much more eloquently than I can
[07:09:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Hitchens - free speech - YouTube
[07:09:55] <juggs> SirFinkus, me too. Hence why I ask for guidance. It's not for an op to dictate policy, that policy must come from the community en masse. Or we have no policy at all and I can just nestle in the background doing eff all. ~shrug~ It's up to you guys.
[07:10:18] <Konomi> what if the community is a large group of arseholes?
[07:10:27] <chromas> "what if"?
[07:10:33] <Konomi> ha ;p
[07:10:47] <chromas> hey a bot could do it then; we could !vote to kick
[07:11:19] <Konomi> I've seen that play out in a channel
[07:11:21] <Konomi> it doesn't work well
[07:11:27] <juggs> then they get an arsehole populated server and I bugger off
[07:11:42] <SirFinkus> yes, mob rule is always the best policy
[07:11:44] <Konomi> you wouldn't run human anti virus ;_; ?
[07:11:46] <SirFinkus> burn the witch!
[07:11:56] <Konomi> god damn it not again
[07:12:25] <juggs> I'm not a witch - my nose is a turnip
[07:12:29] <juggs> or something
[07:15:56] <crutchy> SirFinkus, isn't democracy all about mob rule? we could be the Democratic Republic of Arseholes :)
[07:16:17] <SirFinkus> lol
[07:16:28] <Konomi> DROA
[07:16:30] <SirFinkus> what If I'm a dick or a pussy?
[07:16:40] <juggs> https://www.youtube.com
[07:16:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03Black Sabbath - Mob Rules - YouTube
[07:16:53] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:16:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03&"Dicks, pussies and assholes" speech - Team America - YouTube
[07:17:00] <crutchy> sirfinkus, if you're a dick then all us arseholes are fuckes
[07:17:39] <crutchy> nerds get really crunchy when you mix them into icecream
[07:17:50] <crutchy> works better with rainbow though :/
[07:17:59] <chromas> they get crutchy
[07:19:37] <Konomi> watching a podcast video
[07:19:43] <Konomi> they have a video of some new ubuntu design
[07:19:50] <Konomi> it looks more dumbed down than a fucking mac...
[07:20:07] <chromas> gnome 4?
[07:20:11] <chromas> or unity 2
[07:20:32] <crutchy> or windows for workgroups
[07:20:34] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[07:20:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03Ubuntu Next Gen apps on Ubuntu 14.10 - YouTube
[07:20:38] <Konomi> if you want some eye bleed
[07:20:53] <chromas> windows for workgroups is still better than gnome 4
[07:20:58] <Konomi> need fatter right click menus can't click option too small derp
[07:21:12] <crutchy> is that the 'ubuntu... i'm going to learn... ubuntu?' movie
[07:22:22] <SirFinkus> ubuntu goes wrong trying to put tablet and phone interfaces on computers
[07:22:30] <chromas> it's the Resizing a Windows Retardedly Slow movie
[07:22:32] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[07:22:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 2. - YouTube
[07:22:38] <SirFinkus> say what you will about osx, but is not designed for tablets
[07:22:44] <crutchy> sorry. couldn't help myself
[07:24:58] <Konomi> apparently they're unfinished and they'll be changed for the desktop
[07:30:16] * juggs steps out to attain horizontal alignment and lucid dreams.
[07:32:45] <crutchy> ~time juggs
[07:32:46] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 19 October 2014, 7:32 am
[07:32:56] <crutchy> ~time london
[07:32:57] <exec> Sunday, 19 October 2014 @ 8:32 am GMT+1 - London, UK
[07:35:40] <crutchy> ~time fish, chips, cup-o-tea, mary fuckin poppins
[07:35:41] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 19 October 2014, 7:35 am
[07:38:15] <Konomi> ~time void
[07:38:17] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 19 October 2014, 7:38 am
[08:01:03] <Konomi> "Nicholas Brendon, 43-year-old former star of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, was arrested Friday night in Boise, Idaho for "malicious injury to property," TMZ reports."
[08:01:12] <Konomi> that's some nice screwed up double speak there
[08:01:17] <Konomi> you injure people not property...
[08:02:05] <crutchy> but but property has feelings too
[08:02:35] <chromas> tmz--
[08:02:35] <Bender> karma - tmz: -1
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[08:15:00] <crutchy> falling_asleep_on_the_couch++
[08:15:00] <Bender> karma - falling_asleep_on_the_couch: 1
[08:15:58] <Konomi> urk I really am a jumpy person my calender remindered popped up and I almost launched outta my chair ;_;
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[08:53:02] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[08:53:03] <NetCraft> ^ 03Mustang Wanted Compilation #2 - YouTube
[09:00:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama Orders Chip-and-PIN for Government-Issued Credit/Debit Cards - http://sylnt.us - leading-by-example
[09:16:24] <chromas> That means it's evil now
[09:52:41] <crutchy> is chip & pin new in america?
[09:52:54] <crutchy> surely not
[10:09:54] <ar> magstripe is the shit
[10:10:00] <ar> it should die and be forgotten
[10:10:45] <ar> compatibility with the f.*g magstripe is an attack vector that can be used against chip&pin or nfc cards
[10:11:40] <chromas> "the shit" generally indicates positivity
[10:11:48] <crutchy> should have to shit in the cash register and have it analyze dna to access financials
[10:12:06] <ar> erm
[10:12:10] <ar> magstripe is shit*
[10:12:13] <ar> crutchy: no
[10:12:22] <crutchy> lol
[10:12:22] <ciri> hahaha
[10:12:22] <ar> crutchy: but magstripe should die. period.
[10:12:42] <chromas> crutchy: other DNA sources
[10:12:58] <ar> crutchy: it has *no* security against any kind of attacks. it can even be cloned using $10 equipment and $2 blank card
[10:14:17] <ar> (maybe even less for blanks; these days even full featured blank smart cards with lots of rom and ram and nfc capabilities cost $10 and you can easily buy them)
[10:14:46] <ar> erm, s/rom/flash/
[10:14:51] <ar> and "lots" is relative here
[10:15:26] <crutchy> i keep a piece of al foil in my wallet around my bankcard cos of risk of nfc skimming
[10:16:00] <ar> which is still less likely to happen than magstripe skimming
[10:16:46] <crutchy> never heard of magstripe skimming outside atms
[10:17:01] <crutchy> seems possible though i gueess
[10:17:33] <crutchy> banks are getting more vigilant about atm skimmers, which is good
[10:17:35] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[10:17:40] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:17:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 966
[10:17:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> folding money ftw
[10:17:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:17:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 967
[10:18:03] <ar> coffee--
[10:18:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 966
[10:18:04] <ar> coffee--
[10:18:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 965
[10:18:06] <ar> tea++
[10:18:06] <Bender> karma - tea: 85
[10:18:07] <ar> tea++
[10:18:07] <Bender> karma - tea: 86
[10:18:36] <crutchy> cash doesn't last long in my wallet. it always gets skimmed... by my missus :p
[10:18:46] <ar> crutchy: atm skimming would be a non-issue if everyone could drop magstripe
[10:19:11] <ar> crutchy: and everyone could drop magstripe, if it wasn't for USA that's still stuck in the 70s or 80s
[10:19:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, the same thing that makes debit cards ultimately insecure makes cash more secure. the $5 wrench.
[10:19:36] <chromas> crutchy: are you married to Peg Bundy?
[10:19:52] <crutchy> chromas, i wish!
[10:19:59] <crutchy> at least al gets laid
[10:20:15] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: that's the second most stupid argument against dropping magstripe i've ever heard
[10:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, that wasn't a magstripe argument, that was an argument against cards period
[10:20:46] <crutchy> ar, cash is the most electronically secure form of transaction
[10:20:58] <crutchy> its basically untraceable
[10:21:10] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: cash is more insecure than cards
[10:21:17] <crutchy> physical security is different of course
[10:21:49] <crutchy> lets all buy stuff with 30 year t-bonds from the US treasury :p
[10:21:49] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: if you leave your wallet and run away, there's a good chance your cards will be useless for the thief
[10:22:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> after a while, not immediately.
[10:22:10] <crutchy> ar, but they could be skimmed
[10:22:26] <crutchy> how is physically stealing a card any different to skimming it?
[10:22:26] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[10:22:29] <ar> crutchy: there would be no possibility of skimming if there was no magstripe
[10:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides, running away is for people who ain't me
[10:23:00] <crutchy> nfc cards can be skimmed too
[10:23:23] <ar> and if you report robery the bank, at least here, has a legal obligation to give you back the money
[10:23:28] <crutchy> nfc card skimming is a big problem in australia
[10:23:43] <ar> crutchy: not really and it's non-trivial. unless your bank is ran by morons
[10:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone mugs me on the street and walks away they only get the cash i had on me. with a card they can go withdraw your daily limit.
[10:24:13] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: with a card they can go away with a useless piece of plastic
[10:24:15] <crutchy> nfc skimmers get the same data as magstripe skimmers as far as i know
[10:24:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> not after they beat your pin out of you
[10:24:30] <ar> crutchy: not really. the card isn't readable over nfc
[10:24:43] <crutchy> apparently they are
[10:25:02] <ar> crutchy: do you have any idea how nfc cards (and secure elements in general) work?
[10:25:06] <crutchy> cos cards are being skimmed with devices hidden in peoples shoes
[10:25:20] <crutchy> i don't know how they work. i just know they're getting skimmed
[10:25:30] <crutchy> and people losing money
[10:25:55] <crutchy> that's why banks here are stopping pin-free transactions
[10:26:37] <ar> ok, worst case scenario here: every Nth (usually 3rd or 5th) transaction has to be online-authorized (which involves pin); the microprocessor on the card won't allow more
[10:26:45] <chromas> Have they quit putting the pins on the back of the cards?
[10:26:48] <crutchy> its not the magstripes. its the nfc skimming thats becoming the biggest problem (in australia anyway)
[10:27:04] <crutchy> only takes one transaction to lose money
[10:27:15] <ar> max you can get from a single pin-less transaction here is 50pln (around 15usd or aud)
[10:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> there maybe. you can pull $200usd here several times before a card hits its daily limit.
[10:27:56] <crutchy> i think in some cases it was up to au$100 in some places, but its not the individual amount. if you skim 1000 cards, it adds up
[10:28:01] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: we're not talking about ATM
[10:28:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can pull cash from credit cards here same way.
[10:28:26] <crutchy> urban trains are a big target for nfc skimmers
[10:28:34] <ar> if you report suspicious transactions to your bank, they have a legal obligation to investigate (with the help of police) those transactions, and after 30 or 60 days you get your money back
[10:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> but credit cards are no worry, debit cards are.
[10:28:48] <crutchy> ar, many nfc skims aren't noticed
[10:29:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone steals your credit card, they get reversed. someone steals your debit card, you're screwed.
[10:29:12] <ar> crutchy: you don't get email/sms notifications for every attempted transaction?
[10:29:17] <crutchy> you can't tell you're being skimmed, and the perp often only takes small amount, but from many skims
[10:29:22] <crutchy> ar, no
[10:29:26] <crutchy> its not common
[10:29:28] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: debit cards can get reversed too
[10:29:32] <ar> at least here
[10:29:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> lucky dogs
[10:30:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> debit here is as final as cash.
[10:30:08] <crutchy> banks are locking accounts that have odd transactions though, which is good, but can be a pain
[10:30:42] <SirFinkus> depends on the bank
[10:30:43] <crutchy> tmb, debit cards only use your own money (here anyway)
[10:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[10:30:57] <SirFinkus> mine will refund your money if there's fraud
[10:31:08] <crutchy> SirFinkus, same here (apparently)
[10:31:15] <SirFinkus> but they don't have to do it legally, at least in my juristiction
[10:31:18] <crutchy> never had it happen to me yet (touch wood)
[10:31:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, none of mine ever have given the option.
[10:31:48] <chromas> !grab crutchy
[10:31:48] <Bender> Added quote 252
[10:31:52] <SirFinkus> I had my credit card stolen once, there really isn't a lot you can do to prevent it
[10:31:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> then again i haven't used a bank in quite a while
[10:32:02] <crutchy> unless there is evidence of negligence on the part of the cardholder
[10:32:21] <SirFinkus> I had only used it once or twice, at physical retailers
[10:32:27] <chromas> Tmb banks with the fishes
[10:32:32] <crutchy> (such as giving pin to friend)
[10:32:47] <SirFinkus> guy clones it and tries to spend $600 at a walgreens
[10:32:53] <crutchy> foosh bank is more secure. it employs sharks with lasers
[10:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> folding money is still the easiest way to pay for most anything and you can only lose what you have on you.
[10:33:36] <SirFinkus> naw, credit cards are easier
[10:33:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> say that when you're behind five guys with cards in line.
[10:33:53] <crutchy> paywave ftw
[10:33:57] <SirFinkus> slide->sign->done
[10:34:08] <crutchy> wave card over sensor and you're done
[10:34:13] <SirFinkus> but why would cards go to 5 guys?
[10:34:19] <SirFinkus> cards don't eat hamburgers
[10:34:23] <SirFinkus> or french fries
[10:34:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> shows what you know, everyone loves 5 guys
[10:35:05] <chromas> ~define 5 guys
[10:35:10] <exec> [wikipedia] 35 guys: This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
[10:35:15] * SirFinkus wishes it was open at 3:35
[10:35:21] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: nfc is easiest way to pay for anything. and if you lose it, you only lose a piece of plastic, and not a cent from your funds
[10:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, fiveguys.com
[10:35:45] * crutchy is not clicking that link lol
[10:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay... http://fiveguys.com
[10:36:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Home| Five Guys Burgers and Fries
[10:36:17] <crutchy> ah
[10:36:18] <chromas> Apparently it's a food hole
[10:36:19] <SirFinkus> it's sfw, I promise
[10:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> NetCraft confirms it
[10:36:28] <SirFinkus> delicious food hole
[10:36:37] <crutchy> was half expecting 5 guys doin an e-f pose
[10:36:44] <SirFinkus> netcraft is also scarred from the man porn on the site
[10:36:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, pretty good burgers but i've had better
[10:36:52] <chromas> Five Guys Extensions
[10:37:07] <crutchy> lol 'are you a five guys fanatic?'
[10:37:26] <crutchy> um... yeah sure. i love five guys
[10:37:37] <crutchy> how do you like them?
[10:37:42] <crutchy> erm... in my mouth
[10:37:43] <SirFinkus> as far as burgers you can buy at a casual resturant, you can't beat it
[10:37:52] <SirFinkus> I love putting 5 guys meat inside me
[10:38:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab SirFinkus
[10:38:11] <Bender> Added quote 253
[10:38:11] <chromas> !grab sirecote
[10:38:11] <Bender> Added quote 254
[10:38:16] <chromas> Shit
[10:38:17] <ciri> ok who farted?
[10:38:23] <SirFinkus> haha, stymied!
[10:38:25] <crutchy> it was tama
[10:38:35] <chromas> !quote -1
[10:38:35] <Bender> Quote -1 - <sirecote> woops TK_ already mentioned that
[10:38:41] <crutchy> tama, yo mama likes five guys in her mouth
[10:40:53] <crutchy> wow the latest systemd article getting up there in comment count
[10:41:04] <crutchy> in one day
[10:42:49] * chromas wants systemd to have my babies
[10:43:31] <chromas> commentctl get creepy
[10:44:04] <crutchy> we've bumped the weird-o-meter up to 12
[10:44:07] <crutchy> :D
[10:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really love linux. Net Upgrade Size: -58.81 MiB
[10:44:36] <crutchy> does that mean you get a refund?
[10:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[10:45:26] <crutchy> in waffles?
[10:46:51] <crutchy> "After this operation, 80.5 MB of additional disk space will be used."
[10:46:53] <crutchy> :(
[10:47:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> in bytes. nobody ever said what the bytes had to be taken from though.
[10:47:02] <crutchy> i gots ripped off in my upgrade
[10:47:50] <crutchy> ooh there's some pretty big packages being upgraded
[10:47:50] <chromas> archlinux++
[10:47:50] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 56
[10:48:08] <crutchy> perl
[10:48:23] <crutchy> linux-headers
[10:48:28] <crutchy> hell, even wireshark
[10:52:33] * crutchy wonders if its related to that poodle thing
[10:52:41] <crutchy> openssl is there too
[10:53:11] <Konomi> only 80mb ;p ?
[10:53:24] <Konomi> if that's stable maybe but testing gets large updares al the time
[10:54:50] <crutchy> Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:55:04] <crutchy> nfi what all that carp is
[10:55:10] <crutchy> smp?
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[10:56:48] <chromas> Symmetrical multiprocessing
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[11:22:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - After Biosafety Lapses, US Halts Funding for Work Modifying Virus Targets - http://sylnt.us - protecting-us-from-ourselves?
[11:49:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:49:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 966
[11:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, wonder why max super/subscript depth isn't working...
[12:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome, fixed it
[12:06:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:06:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 967
[12:06:31] <crutchy> userlist_buttons++
[12:06:31] <Bender> karma - userlist_buttons: 1
[12:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> userlist buttons? programmable hotkeys
[12:09:08] <crutchy> unfortunately don't have that luxury with my lappy, unless i grab a usb keyboard or improve my microcontroller-fu
[12:09:52] <crutchy> uc would be ugly. extra power pack, wires n shit everywhere
[12:10:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> really? no keyboard settings that allow you to set hotkeys to a command?
[12:10:28] <crutchy> dunno. maybe my *-fu is poor in general
[12:10:43] * crutchy opens xchat settings
[12:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh not xchat, system-wide
[12:12:11] <crutchy> its easier for me to click a button with mouse than reach for some ctrl+shift+alt+tab concoction
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[12:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah, get on your little silver boat and row back to mac-land
[12:13:33] <crutchy> someone will have to guide me cos i never been there before :p
[12:13:50] * crutchy has never had anything with an apple logo
[12:14:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... why is macro key three doing macro key 4's macro?
[12:14:19] <crutchy> missus has a second-hand ipod i think
[12:14:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, who cares. i got what i want macro'd macro'd
[12:14:40] <crutchy> maybe they had macro-key love
[12:14:43] * Leebert doesn't need programmable hotkeys; he just has his staff press the keys for him.
[12:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, there ya go. minions ftw.
[12:15:33] <crutchy> minions need amenities and holiday pay
[12:15:36] <crutchy> bots++
[12:15:36] <Bender> karma - bots: 3
[12:16:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, i don't like the logic in figuring out max nesting depth of blockquotes and sub/sup
[12:16:35] <crutchy> just use random
[12:16:44] <crutchy> logic--
[12:16:44] <Bender> karma - logic: -2
[14:02:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Back to Yucca Mountain - http://sylnt.us - not-in-my-vast-desert
[15:05:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:05:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 968
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[16:01:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As Prison Population Sinks, Jails are a Steal - http://sylnt.us - supply-and-demand
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[16:48:00] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[16:48:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[16:48:10] <Konomi> preliminary addition of blacklisting to my power scripts
[16:48:13] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[16:48:27] <Konomi> (my sd card reader was getting huffy otherwise I wouldn't have added it at all \o/)
[18:01:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Barcelona Comedy Club uses Facial Recognition Technology to Charge per Laugh - http://sylnt.us - Stoics-night
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[20:00:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Fiber Signups in Austin to Begin in December - http://sylnt.us - worth-the-wait
[20:28:28] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:28:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 969
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[20:39:18] <crutchy> wholly carp... flying toasters are real!
[20:39:21] <crutchy> http://flitetest.com
[20:39:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03Flying Toaster | Flite Test
[20:41:48] <chromas> I like that it toasts
[20:44:23] <crutchy> oh shit. this is just mean... http://store.hackaday.com
[20:44:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Tools – Hackaday Store
[20:44:56] <crutchy> hmm actually sparkfun is meaner
[21:01:00] <crutchy> see yas later
[21:01:09] <crutchy> workipoos--
[21:01:09] <Bender> karma - workipoos: -5
[21:01:48] <chromas> we'll abuse the bot while you're away
[21:02:04] <chromas> ~hit self
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[22:01:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Maps NFL Fandom across USA - http://sylnt.us - Sports-all!
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