#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-05
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[00:00:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Breaking: GitHub Blocked in Russia - http://sylnt.us - great-firewall-of-rus
[00:00:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, the world's full of too many whiny bitches
[00:00:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I hate farting into my car seat because it seems to fester in there, and then the fart smell mutates into a dingy, rusty smell.
[00:00:47] <SirFinkus> one time I made jambalaya that gave me gas so bad I threw up
[00:01:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, then when you sit down again later it all explodes out of the cushion.
[00:01:48] <Ethanol-fueled> The discussion about the illegal immigrants and the ROV competition was good.
[00:01:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, cajun food is wonderful going down and just flat evil coming out.
[00:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, dug your comment but i set mod points off for me so they don't get wasted.
[00:02:35] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha, it's okay. I'm not a karma whore.
[00:03:02] <Ethanol-fueled> It wasn't about me, just all the goddamn bleeding hearts in there bleating and not knowing the whole story.
[00:03:13] <Ethanol-fueled> SUCH INJUSTICE!
[00:03:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> the usual case
[00:04:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Knowing how to macguyver stuff on your own terms is a lot different than seeing through a disciplined rigorus and very boring and tedious curriculum only to live a lifetime in boring and tedious jobs
[00:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that ain't no shit
[00:06:01] <Ethanol-fueled> People like the UnAbomber think they're hot shit because they're the best in high school, then they go off to college and discover very painfully that they're just another common schmuck.
[00:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckers seem to think there's some magic formula they can follow to make them a success in life easily. there ain't. for pretty much everyone it takes fucktons of hard work and most importantly intelligence.
[00:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard -- and I'll add, the harsh lessons that come with fucking up once or twice along the way.
[00:06:52] <Ethanol-fueled> or Ten or Twenty times
[00:08:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got an iq which puts me at like the smartest person i'm likely to meet in any given day but there's still someone out there just as smart for every few thousand people and we have hundreds of millions.
[00:09:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> and if you self-select into a group of smart people the odds are a shitload better that you're nothing worth talking about.
[00:10:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i can either be like the best damned plumber in ages or a mediocre code monkey.
[00:11:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Super Mario was a plumber and he got to bone the princess.
[00:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. and he prolly made more than me too cause plumbers rake in the cash.
[00:12:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, especially during emergency calls.
[00:12:01] <chromas> he got paid in coins and shrooms
[00:12:05] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha chromas
[00:12:34] <SirFinkus> shit, I wish I could get paid in shrooms
[00:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody wants to stick their hand down in shit to pull the hand towel their kid stuffed down the toilet out.
[00:12:41] <SirFinkus> shitake of course
[00:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> so plumbers make the big bucks.
[00:12:55] <chromas> also, wasn't she banging Bowser?
[00:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly luigi.
[00:13:22] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah
[00:13:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Luigi was taller, and you know what that means...
[00:14:09] <SirFinkus> there was also that game where you played as luigi and he'd go around humping furniture
[00:14:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Which one was that, Finkus? One of the later ones?
[00:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, i mostly gave up on SMB games after N64
[00:14:49] <SirFinkus> Luigi's Mansion, for Gamecube I think
[00:15:13] <chromas> there was also the '2' based on duki duki or whatever, where they stuffed the princess with vegetables
[00:15:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Doki Doki Panic
[00:15:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> made her a veggie-farter?
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[00:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin vegans. they need to be legally required to wear buttplugs in public.
[00:17:18] <Alberto> There is no such thing as vegans
[00:17:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Alberto, are they considered "scum" then?
[00:18:03] <Alberto> crazy people
[00:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you saying they're my imagination getting back at me for making it think up all those naked people as a teenager?
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[00:18:43] <chromas> people who love meat so much the variable overflowed in their head
[00:19:10] <SirFinkus> meat++
[00:19:10] <Bender> karma - meat: 6
[00:19:27] <Ethanol-fueled> meat++
[00:19:27] <Bender> karma - meat: 7
[00:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, think it's beer and chili tonight.
[00:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> meat++
[00:19:36] <Bender> karma - meat: 8
[00:19:39] <meisterister> meisterister.affinityForMeat=127
[00:19:40] <chromas> meat++
[00:19:40] <Bender> karma - meat: 9
[00:19:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Dinner of champions.
[00:20:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I haven't had a drink all week since Sunday.
[00:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna throw some cheese n some of my home grown jalapenos in it
[00:20:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, gotta have those
[00:20:38] <chromas> meat—because grass doesn't shit on cows
[00:20:54] <chromas> peppers++
[00:20:54] <Bender> karma - peppers: 1
[00:21:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Peppers rock.
[00:21:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> peppers++
[00:21:06] <Bender> karma - peppers: 2
[00:21:24] <Alberto> chromas, we all love/need meat
[00:21:29] <Alberto> meat++
[00:21:29] <Bender> karma - meat: 10
[00:21:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> preppers++ # they have all the fun toys
[00:21:29] <Bender> karma - preppers: 1
[00:21:39] <SirFinkus> I was going to pick up a 6 pack of Oatis, but I'm too lazy
[00:21:49] <Alberto> meat++
[00:21:49] <Bender> karma - meat: 11
[00:21:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Gonna wait until tomorrow night to drink.
[00:21:55] <Alberto> i have bacon
[00:22:00] <Alberto> so bacon party it is!
[00:22:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> guinness for me. excellent cold weather beer.
[00:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> laters taters. gonna go open a can of dinner.
[00:22:39] <Alberto> wait
[00:22:41] <SirFinkus> guinness is gross
[00:22:46] <SirFinkus> barely a stout
[00:22:48] <Alberto> Heineken
[00:22:51] <Alberto> or Quilmes
[00:22:52] <Alberto> :P
[00:22:57] * Alberto loves Quilmes
[00:23:19] <meisterister> potatoes++
[00:23:20] <Bender> karma - potatoes: 1
[00:23:34] <Alberto> meisterister--
[00:23:34] <Bender> karma - meisterister: -1
[00:23:39] <Alberto> meat++
[00:23:39] <Bender> karma - meat: 12
[00:23:46] <Ethanol-fueled> beating_meat++
[00:23:46] <Bender> karma - beating_meat: 1
[00:24:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, my calibration's finished (shitty filters on this one -- sho' got the pick of the litter this time). Time to go back and pretend to work.
[00:24:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Catch Y'all on Friday or Saturday.
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[00:53:38] <SpallsHurgenson> this article infuriates me https://soylentnews.org . How can I get a proper slashdot-esque experience if we have editors who actually do their jobs?!?!? :)
[00:53:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by buswolley (848)
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[01:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson yeah, they need a good talking to about that nonsense. they're only supposed to do things like bring us the Alzheimers cock
[02:01:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coffee Hawking Robots - http://sylnt.us - coffee++
[02:03:48] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:03:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9896
[02:03:49] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:03:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9895
[02:11:53] <Konomi> "Linux DevOps Administrator" what a job title lol
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[03:04:16] <SpallsHurgenson> interesting comment or link!
[03:04:24] <SpallsHurgenson> snarky response!
[03:04:30] <SpallsHurgenson> amusing short anecdote!
[03:05:25] <chromas> anecdote of one-up-snmanship
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[03:05:51] <SpallsHurgenson> request for change of topic of conversation
[03:07:03] <SpallsHurgenson> <long pause when nobody speaks>
[03:07:04] <chromas> increment of karma variable related to recent happening and/or new topic
[03:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:07:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Da Vinci's Notebook - Title of the Song - YouTube
[03:07:50] <chromas> trying out Qupzilla web browser. It's more Opera-like than Opera now
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[03:08:56] <SpallsHurgenson> even though I'm not a fan of Opera, I hope it catches on; we need more competition in the browser market
[03:09:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, you mean now that firefox is becoming chrome?
[03:09:26] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah
[03:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no argument
[03:09:58] <SpallsHurgenson> it's basically Chrome and IE these days.
[03:10:14] <chromas> sad panda
[03:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> also ran to a barely maintained palemoon
[03:11:22] <chromas> No, Opera is also chrome
[03:11:26] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, shame about Palemoon. But between its tiny market AND its increasing incompatibility with Firefox addons I don't think it's gonna make the splash we were all hoping it would
[03:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[03:13:02] <chromas> there's leechcraft—the systemd of web browsers
[03:14:06] <SpallsHurgenson> Qupzilla has adblock and flashblock built in... but no noscript :(
[03:14:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no good then
[03:14:41] <chromas> it does have greasemonkey though
[03:14:45] <SpallsHurgenson> no anti-tracking 'ware either. It does ahve gerasemonkey
[03:14:53] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, chromas beat me to it
[03:15:24] <chromas> the aur has a version with extra plugins. I'd rather have a package with just the extra plugins
[03:18:50] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, no https-everywhere either. for a browser doubtlessly aimed at a more technical audience its missing some of the more important addons :)
[03:19:22] * juggs glances around nervously
[03:19:34] <SpallsHurgenson> (they are important to me, therefore they must be important to everybody :)
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[03:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, juggs
[03:31:02] <juggs> evening, TMB - thanks for the chat earlier - useful info :)
[03:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
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[03:37:06] * TheMightyBuzzard has Def Leppard on the brain for some reason
[03:38:31] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly, there's no cure for that
[03:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> however, a brief treatment of Bieber will destroy enough braincells to get a good night's sleep
[03:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[03:40:21] <Konomi> or have nightmares...
[03:41:29] <juggs> I see now why Neon isn't on the wiki servers list or my wiki-fu is failing me yet again
[03:42:03] * SpallsHurgenson starts TMB on his first treatment "Baby, baby, baby oooh / Like baby, baby, baby nooo / Like baby, baby, baby oooh / I thought you'd always be mine"
[03:42:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:42:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03Backstreet Boys ft. Weird Al Yankovic - Which BackStreet Boy Is Gay? - YouTube
[03:46:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> better, brain's moved on to weird al now
[03:47:18] <SpallsHurgenson> this more serious than I thought! Quick, two CCs of N'Sync, stat!
[03:47:24] <SpallsHurgenson> "Bye Bye Don't wanna be a fool for you / Just another player in your game for two / You may hate me but it ain't no lie, / Baby, bye, bye, bye... Bye Bye"
[03:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i can live with weird al on the brain.
[03:49:10] <SpallsHurgenson> don't make me break out the Menudo!
[03:50:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:50:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03"Weird Al" Yankovic - Dare To Be Stupid - YouTube
[03:50:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, it's been a while since i watched the transformers movie
[03:53:47] <SpallsHurgenson> "You got the touch / You got the power / After all is said and done / You've never walked, you've never run / You're a winner"
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[04:01:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Node.js forked - http://sylnt.us - fork-you-too
[04:01:43] <chromas> 2014 is the Year of the Fork()s
[04:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> salad or lobster?
[04:04:44] <chromas> pickle
[04:06:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got nothing. think it's time for bed.
[04:07:10] <juggs> sleep well
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[04:52:20] <Ethanol-fueled> man, there's nothing worse than grabbing an IPA only to have it be 4.5% alcohol.
[04:52:36] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm furious. It was from a trusted brand, and called "IPA."
[04:53:06] <juggs> sounds about typical for a traditional IPA
[04:53:42] <Ethanol-fueled> That probably makes me ignorant, then, but I was raised on better.
[04:54:30] * Ethanol-fueled pounds head with fist
[04:54:39] <Ethanol-fueled> stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid idiot!
[04:54:56] <Ethanol-fueled> For not checking the goddamn packaging!
[04:55:27] <Ethanol-fueled> It's enough to drive a man to drink, Juggs.
[04:56:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Why, o' lord, why? Why do you test me?
[04:56:44] <JamesNZ> It's to improve your character, my child.
[04:57:00] <Ethanol-fueled> James, if being bitter and angry is an "improvement of character"
[04:57:05] <juggs> right, duvet time for me, don't burn the place down
[04:57:20] <JamesNZ> :D
[04:57:21] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, I'm too depressed to be offensive.
[04:57:25] * SpallsHurgenson sheepishly hides the matches behind his back
[04:57:40] <Ethanol-fueled> It is for a beer, James, but not for a man.
[04:57:44] * chromas eggs Ethanol-fueled on
[04:58:13] <Ethanol-fueled> No, a paltry 4.5% will take the wind out of a man's sails. That's less than Budweiser or Coors.
[04:58:52] <Ethanol-fueled> My testicles are shrinking as we speak and I reluctantly drink this urinous swill.
[05:02:53] <SirFinkus> yeah, 4.5 is pretty low for an IPA
[05:03:37] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[05:03:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9894
[05:03:37] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[05:03:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9893
[05:03:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, that is a colossal disappointment. It's like when you made the mistake of buying that dumb Nintendo game because it had a rad cover wtih artwork that had nothing to do with the game.
[05:04:16] <SirFinkus> My favorite is like 10%, can't drink a lot of those though
[05:04:40] <SirFinkus> http://www.beeradvocate.com
[05:04:42] <NetCraft> ^ 03Sierra Nevada Hoptimum Imperial IPA | Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. | Chico, CA | BeerAdvocate
[05:04:44] <SirFinkus> 10.4%
[05:05:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Can never go wrong wtih Sierra Nevada.
[05:05:50] <SirFinkus> yeah, their Torpedo is one of my rotating daily drivers
[05:06:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Torpedo rocks. And it's more inexpensive than other beers of the class.
[05:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> they're selling it in 4x16oz packs of cans now.
[05:06:59] <SirFinkus> ahh, haven't seen those
[05:07:09] <SirFinkus> maybe they haven't hit washington yet
[05:07:33] * Ethanol-fueled digs the Bigfoot
[05:07:34] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.sierranevada.com
[05:07:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bigfoot Barleywine Style Ale | www.sierranevada.com
[05:08:24] <SirFinkus> I'll have to see if I can find that sometime
[05:08:27] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't go wrong with SIerra Nevada.
[05:08:57] <Ethanol-fueled> They wouldn't label anything below 6 or 7 as anything but "lager," "pilsner," or "stout"
[05:09:10] <SirFinkus> their stout is a little meh
[05:10:39] <SirFinkus> Oatis is one of my other daily drivers
[05:12:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Noice, haven't seen that here yet.
[05:12:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Got too many talented locals to be lettin' in outsiders.
[05:12:26] <SirFinkus> yeah, I think it's only in oregon and western washington
[05:12:40] <SirFinkus> I couldn't even find it in spokane
[05:13:13] <SirFinkus> most of ninkasi's other stuff is pretty overpriced, their IPA is decent though
[05:16:33] <Ethanol-fueled> my rule of thumb is that it should be around eleven bucks for a six-pack, or only on special occasions 7 dollars a bottle
[05:17:27] <SirFinkus> shit, that's expensive, an expensive six pack here is out the door for 11
[05:17:32] <SirFinkus> oatis is like 9
[05:18:20] <Ethanol-fueled> That's around Sierra Nevada here.
[05:18:46] <SirFinkus> ouch, we have the highest alcohol taxes in the country too
[05:19:05] <SirFinkus> although it hurts more for the hard stuff
[05:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, we can get a fifth of Smirnoff for like 8-something here
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[05:20:30] <SirFinkus> shit, that's easily $20 here, it's retarded
[05:20:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I live in an urban area near San Diego State, so everywhere around there prices on everything are jacked up because rich kids
[05:21:03] <SirFinkus> the legal pot is retarded too, absolute cheapest you can get it legit is 17 a gram
[05:21:19] <Ethanol-fueled> and even where it starts to get shitty all the Chaldeans in the liquor stores know they can get the same prices for good beers
[05:21:54] <Ethanol-fueled> 17 a gram, shit, California weed street value was 20 a gram like 5 years ago
[05:22:11] <Ethanol-fueled> And the cost of living is way less in Oregon from what I understand.
[05:22:12] <SirFinkus> ouch, street here is $10 for mid-grade
[05:22:56] <SirFinkus> I live in hippyville though
[05:22:56] <Ethanol-fueled> we did $15 grams for mid-grade in LA around 5 years ago, now I get hooked up by friends.
[05:24:15] <SirFinkus> I wonder what the Colorado prices are
[05:24:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Why go to colorado when you can go to Washington?
[05:24:57] <Ethanol-fueled> or live in Washington, for that matter
[05:25:20] <Ethanol-fueled> seems that there are a lot more right-wing anti-pot folks in colorado.
[05:25:28] <SirFinkus> yeah, I don't plan on leaving anytime soon, just the market has had more time to settle
[05:26:04] <SirFinkus> so I was wondering when/if WA legal is going to go down anytime soon
[05:26:55] <Ethanol-fueled> What do you mean, didn't Washington legalize recreational use?
[05:27:16] <SirFinkus> yeah, but Colorado did first
[05:27:42] <SirFinkus> so I was comparing the markets, I figure if I look at Colorado, I could get an idea of how prices might move in Washington eventually
[05:28:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Washington should embrace Marijuana-tourism
[05:29:11] <Ethanol-fueled> They have a lot of nice wilderness, probably more intimate resorts, not as "big-box" as Colorado
[05:29:26] <SirFinkus> Yeah, shit, just checked the prices and I could buy an eighth for the same price as a gram here
[05:30:00] <SirFinkus> Colorado is more centrally located, so they have that I guess
[05:30:08] <Ethanol-fueled> you mean a gram in WA would get you the same as an eighth in CO?
[05:31:05] <SirFinkus> A gram here averages around $25 legal, in Colorado, looks like you can get an eighth for around $25
[05:31:46] <Ethanol-fueled> But what good is that if you can't freely fly it anywhere else?
[05:32:17] <SirFinkus> hang out in Denver I guess, we have the same situation here
[05:32:54] <SirFinkus> it isn't like it's hard to find pot anywhere, I suspect the tourists would just be in it for the novelty
[05:34:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Unless you know somebody in the area, finding pot can be awkward. You're depending on some long-haired freak to approach you for pot, and it doesn't always happen that easile.
[05:35:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Which means you have to ask around, often in public...and that's too "low" for some people to go.
[05:35:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Or, worse, you have to ask a person if you can drag on their joint rather than sell you a sack.
[05:36:00] <SirFinkus> lol
[05:36:36] <SirFinkus> we actually briefly had a bar where you could smoke, but the buzz-kills shut that shit down pretty quickly
[05:36:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I know this feeling well because before I found out I had an old friend within walking distance, I had to get weed from 2 exes that hated me.
[05:37:23] <SirFinkus> I think there's still a loophole though, just have a parking lot somewhere with a covered (outdoor) area with seating and heaters
[05:37:24] <Ethanol-fueled> One "quit", the other would sell or not sell depending on how much of an asshole she thought I was that day.
[05:37:31] <SirFinkus> rent out spaces for food trucks
[05:37:34] <SirFinkus> you'd make a killing
[05:38:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Here in San Diego the well-supported Nazi attornies general are shutting down dispensaries left and right.
[05:39:22] <SirFinkus> of course, some people just seem to make it their goal in life to ruin other people having fun
[05:39:45] <Ethanol-fueled> The explanation may just be that simple.
[05:40:10] <Ethanol-fueled> "I never got to have fun as a kid living under authoritarian parents, so this kid won't either"
[05:40:23] <SirFinkus> my grandmother is one of these people, she's a blast to be around
[05:40:27] <SirFinkus> so I know the attitude
[05:41:18] <SirFinkus> she's fucking livid about the legalization, it's rather hilarious how futile her anger is
[05:41:30] <SirFinkus> impotent rage can be hilarious
[05:42:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds like the bitch gotta die, and soon.
[05:43:01] <SirFinkus> she's ok in very small doses, just the Holidays are about right
[05:44:58] <Ethanol-fueled> How would she feel if you brought home a black girlfriend or boyfriend?
[05:44:58] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[05:46:41] <SirFinkus> I don't think she'd be openly hostile, just passive aggressive as fuck
[05:47:10] <SirFinkus> she'd care more about stuff like tattoos
[05:49:12] <SirFinkus> I got her good last time though. One of her classic rants is "this is a christian country, if you don't like it, leave", I turned that around when the legalization vote passed and got a shitty christmas present
[05:49:43] <Ethanol-fueled> FInkus - is there money at stake?
[05:50:04] <SirFinkus> what do you mean?
[05:50:17] <Ethanol-fueled> That's a terrible question to ask, but sometimes it's the only reason worth putting up with familial assholes.
[05:50:34] <Ethanol-fueled> by that I mean, are you dealing with it because you are to receive some kind of inheritance?
[05:50:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Trust? etc.
[05:50:56] <SirFinkus> oh, like inheritance? Not much really. If there was, I'd be pretty far down the list anyway
[05:51:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Then what's the point?
[05:52:08] <SirFinkus> I only have to deal with her on holidays, it wouldn't be worth the shitstorm
[05:52:39] <SirFinkus> My Dad likes her, and I like my Dad, so I'm civil
[05:53:04] <Ethanol-fueled> So he gets the money, and then gives it to you.
[05:53:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Bwahahahah
[05:53:35] <SirFinkus> there isn't "the money" though, she's actually pretty poor
[05:53:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Dang, that sucks.
[05:54:02] <SirFinkus> she was a teacher, but she got fired just before she could retire
[05:54:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, that's tragic.
[05:55:25] <SirFinkus> I didn't go into it with her, but I'm pretty certain she must have said something
[05:56:39] <SirFinkus> teachers don't just "get fired"
[05:57:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Nope. I know this because my dad and three of my aunts on both sides of the family are teachers.
[05:57:53] <Ethanol-fueled> You have to really, really, really fuck up. Like, hit a student.
[05:58:15] * SirFinkus shrugs
[05:58:18] <SirFinkus> who know?
[05:58:32] <SirFinkus> knows even
[05:58:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Knowing students nowadays, they deserve to be hit though.
[05:59:14] <SirFinkus> lots of people deserve to be hit
[06:01:51] <Ethanol-fueled> my dad chewed the pricipal out in his own office, and all he got was a referral to an anger-managment class he never even went to.
[06:02:14] <SirFinkus> lol
[06:02:14] <ciri> hehehe
[06:02:21] <SirFinkus> shut up ciri, nobody likes you
[06:02:32] <SirFinkus> funny thing, my dad is a teacher too
[06:04:06] <SirFinkus> they're rolling out the common core stuff now, I've seen the homework, it's as bad as you've probably heard
[06:06:34] <Ethanol-fueled> That's depressing.
[06:07:05] <Ethanol-fueled> It makes me want to bail to Germany or Scandinavia and knock up an ugly fat lady to raise a family there.
[06:07:54] <SirFinkus> no guns or free speech
[06:08:08] <SirFinkus> oh wait, you live in Cali
[06:09:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I think I'd be well-suited to a moderate non-extremist militia somewhere in the Pacific Northwest US.
[06:09:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd work honest labor to build structures and plant gardens.
[06:10:50] <SirFinkus> Don't know of any, I know there are some white nationalists trying to start something called "cascadia" or something
[06:11:36] <Ethanol-fueled> wow, that sounds scary.
[06:11:59] <Ethanol-fueled> all those angry skinheads clomping around looking all pissed-off.
[06:12:34] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:12:34] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 133
[06:12:49] <Ethanol-fueled> It'd be like a perpetual bar-scene from star wars I. or was it III. or IV?
[06:13:01] <SirFinkus> http://northwestfront.org
[06:13:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Butler Plan: The Homeland « Northwest Front
[06:13:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Han solo would walk in there to Greedo saying, "You're a colored person, aren't you?"
[06:13:22] <SirFinkus> naw, too many different aliens and shit in that
[06:13:56] <SirFinkus> I wasn't thinking of cascadia, that's the hippy version
[06:14:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Han has White privilige, it's how he was on the winning side with Luke and Leia, two other White people.
[06:14:42] <SirFinkus> "In the case of Vancouver, B.C., they have already succeeded in transforming this once White city into a Chinese ant heap."
[06:14:44] <SirFinkus> lol
[06:24:42] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAH, White homeland
[06:25:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, shit, if it worked properly, I'd live in it.
[06:25:23] <SirFinkus> I think it's firmly in the "never gonna happen" realm
[06:25:39] <Ethanol-fueled> No, there would be violent government crackdowns if it got serious.
[06:26:37] <SirFinkus> which is pretty bullshit, I wouldn't really have a problem with them as long as they were non-violent
[06:26:43] <Ethanol-fueled> There's a lot of race-baiting going on now in the Media.
[06:27:02] <SirFinkus> if a bunch of white guys want to live in the woods, who am I to tell them no?
[06:27:10] <SirFinkus> gee, ya think?
[06:27:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, guys, somebody else colored was just killed by a young White policeman! You're not gonna just sit there and take it, are you?
[06:28:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, I'm tired and gonna bail.
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[06:31:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - We Are Living in the Surveillance Society Says Assange - http://sylnt.us - room-101
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[06:35:20] <chromas> from the no-shit-sherlock dept
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[07:02:54] <chromas> http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net
[07:02:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Eagle Mode - Video Capture
[07:27:55] <JamesNZ> slime-mode++
[07:28:00] <JamesNZ> slime++
[07:28:00] <Bender> karma - slime: 1
[07:39:04] <Alberto> Devuan unstable
[07:39:05] <Alberto> http://packages.devuan.org
[07:39:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Index of /devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-baseconf/
[07:39:09] <Alberto> first package
[07:39:09] <Alberto> :D
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[07:48:37] <chromas> progress++
[07:48:37] <Bender> karma - progress: 2
[07:48:43] <chromas> progress_quest++
[07:48:44] <Bender> karma - progress_quest: 1
[08:34:00] <crutchy> "The only thing worse than owning US dollars today is owning a promise to paid US in ten years or thirty years"
[08:34:26] <crutchy> s/promise to paid/promise to be paid"
[08:34:26] <sedctl> crotchy, you bloody moron, get the syntax straight or get off this channel!!
[08:34:26] * sedctl peppers crotchy with /s
[08:34:31] <crutchy> lol
[08:34:38] <crutchy> sedctl++
[08:34:38] <Bender> karma - sedctl: -1
[08:34:38] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[08:34:38] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[08:34:43] <crutchy> ¿
[08:37:39] <chromas> yeah, why'd it do two taunts?
[08:40:15] <crutchy> oh
[08:40:22] <crutchy> i said sedctl and so did bender
[08:40:22] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[08:40:41] <crutchy> maybe it just needs to ignore bender or summin
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[08:42:36] <chromas> maybe it needs a [:,] or something too
[08:42:58] <chromas> is it wrong that I modified the script and didn't publish it?
[08:45:59] <crutchy> now you will be ground into soylent
[08:46:16] <crutchy> and will receive no waffles
[08:46:52] <chromas> :(
[08:47:07] <chromas> I need waffles
[08:47:14] <crutchy> poor FoobarBazbot will be living on the street as a result of your dereliction of toecheesedom
[08:47:36] <chromas> I bet he still gets waffles, though
[08:49:31] <chromas> the gawks script randomly says stuff on the terminal
[08:49:35] <chromas> the last thing is form ef earlier
[08:49:46] <chromas> Yeah: shit, just checked the prices and I could buy an eighth for the same price as a gram here
[08:49:46] <chromas> Well: shit, if it worked properly, I'd live in it.
[08:50:00] <chromas> must be the colons
[08:50:04] <chromas> test: test
[08:50:06] <chromas> :(
[08:50:14] <chromas> it's taunting me
[09:01:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA to Launch Orion Vehicle at 1200GMT on Friday - http://sylnt.us - winter-hunt
[09:01:46] <chromas> the previous launch was actually scrubbed when they found out Soylent didn't have a post about it
[09:02:04] <chromas> ooh, I should go get first post on that
[09:02:08] <crutchy> ++coffee
[09:02:08] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 134
[09:02:28] <crutchy> lol yeah post that
[09:02:28] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[09:02:51] <crutchy> ~comment chromas is a butt
[09:02:52] <exec> Last feed message posted by Bender not found.
[09:02:59] <crutchy> aww :p
[10:10:45] <juggs> ~g'day everyone
[10:10:46] * exec fanatically poops a toilet bowl of $insert_beverage_here for everyone
[10:11:09] <chromas> woohoo! I get to eval() my own beverage
[10:11:29] <chromas> ~g'day mighty juggs
[10:11:30] * exec suspiciously pours a wine flute of toilet water for mighty juggs
[10:11:41] <juggs> mm - how refreshing!
[10:12:20] <juggs> tea++ #the 1st cup of the day is the best
[10:12:20] <Bender> karma - tea: 282
[10:12:33] <chromas> so it's all downhill from there
[10:13:34] <juggs> uch - thanks for putting it like that :(
[10:13:52] <chromas> the tea, not your day ;)
[10:14:33] * chromas looks for other browsers; most have fewer features than even chrome
[10:14:58] <juggs> what features do you want?
[10:15:13] <chromas> noscript
[10:15:29] <juggs> Reminds me I need to decruft my firefox profile - latest update borked all video playback
[10:15:29] <chromas> qupzilla doesn't have that, otherwise it's looking pretty great
[10:15:42] <juggs> palemoon perhaps?
[10:15:49] <chromas> I've been using it
[10:16:09] <crutchy> chromas, try epiphany
[10:16:10] <chromas> but it annoys me every time it crashes or I close it and it has no idea I had any tabs open
[10:16:25] <juggs> seems snappier to me than FF - but then I've not done a proper evaluation on that
[10:16:29] <juggs> never had it crash :/
[10:16:30] <chromas> in my experience, firefox has never had decent session saving
[10:16:47] <juggs> it is a bit hit and miss
[10:17:29] <chromas> qupzilla does have built-in greasemonkey and adblock support though
[10:17:42] <chromas> I wonder if there's a greasemonkey script to selectively disable scripting
[10:17:43] <juggs> I found the most successful strategy is not to close it, just shutdown the system - seems to save session every time being killed that way
[10:18:44] <chromas> that's true. when it does save the session, it'll say it crashed (even when it didn't) and offer to restore a random selection of the tabs, plus sometimes tabs from a few months ago
[10:19:48] <juggs> hmm - not seen that behaviour here.
[10:20:46] <chromas> crutchy: is the fullscreen thing you saw on wikipedia an overlay or a huuuuuge bar at the top? that's what I just got
[10:21:06] <juggs> is that the begathon thing I read about?
[10:21:11] <crutchy> yeah
[10:21:58] <crutchy> adblock edge custom filter for it: ##div#centralNotice
[10:22:07] <Konomi> chromas: uses session manager
[10:22:21] <Konomi> https://addons.mozilla.org
[10:22:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Session Manager :: Add-ons for Firefox
[10:22:27] <Konomi> you will never ever ever lose a session with it
[10:22:37] <juggs> noscript makes it disappear for me :D
[10:22:44] <crutchy> that too
[10:22:52] <crutchy> but i like js when using github
[10:22:56] <crutchy> :/
[10:23:08] <chromas> I did use the one in treestyle tabs but it did the same. I'll try that 'un
[10:23:27] <chromas> opera++ #for best and oldest session management
[10:23:27] <Bender> karma - opera: 1
[10:23:32] <chromas> opera-- # for being chrome nwo
[10:23:32] <Bender> karma - opera: 0
[10:24:49] <crutchy> i'm still using iceweasel 31.2.0
[10:24:52] <juggs> opera's making a comeback isn't it - with some giant version increment jump (to catch up with the rest I guess)
[10:24:56] <crutchy> dunno what its up to now
[10:25:06] <chromas> juggs: yeah, it's got bookmarks now
[10:26:02] <chromas> and they upgraded from appearance-changing skins to themes that just set a background image
[10:27:00] <juggs> I might give it a whirl if it makes its way to my distro repos - showing 12.16 right now.
[10:27:21] <chromas> it might be under a different name. I just installed it a bit ago
[10:27:29] <chromas> might be under opera-developer or opera-beta or something
[10:28:22] <juggs> meh, I could just add the opera repo to source, but I cba - no rush, got other shat to do really
[10:28:58] * crutchy cranks up aqua - barbie girl :D
[10:29:15] <chromas> it does finally have more than five extensions, including multiple adblocks and ghostery and stuff
[10:30:52] * chromas gives crutchy ATC's Around the World cover
[10:31:48] <crutchy> ooh i think i have that too
[10:32:44] <chromas> ++pandora for showing me music that was apparently popular in my lifetime yet I'd never heard of it
[10:32:44] <NetCraft> Karma - pandora: 1
[10:33:09] * crutchy inserts penis into snapfacetwitblr
[10:33:54] <chromas> that is what those services are for
[10:34:04] <chromas> ef should stop by tumblr
[10:34:13] <crutchy> hehe i think i confused poor ol gry
[10:34:47] <chromas> lolctl
[10:36:48] <crutchy> even with my not so subtle hint they might not get it :/
[10:37:40] <crutchy> they might think bra is an obscure shell or something
[10:38:42] <chromas> cool story, bra
[10:38:58] <chromas> :)
[10:39:14] * crutchy is trying to boot strap his bra's undo list
[11:07:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:07:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9894
[11:08:14] <juggs> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[11:08:15] * exec abnormally offers a used franger of boogers to TheMightyBuzzard
[11:13:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> go coffee go
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[11:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything interesting happening today?
[11:24:35] <juggs> no idea yet, still in power on phase
[11:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, same here. think i got what i need to write for today figured out though
[11:28:57] <juggs> oh, looks like nasa is going to attempt to get orion of the deck again today
[11:30:26] <Konomi> was that the one that exploded?
[11:31:20] <chromas> it's the one we didn't post about a couple days ago
[11:31:27] <chromas> or one days ago. or some time
[11:31:45] <Alberto> So
[11:31:58] <Alberto> systemd ditches all syslog apps too
[11:32:13] <Alberto> How Debian developers can be SO IDIOTICS
[11:32:15] <ciri> doing great here
[11:32:19] <Alberto> i expected that from Ubuntu
[11:32:27] <Alberto> but Debian...
[11:32:28] <Alberto> bleh
[11:33:13] <chromas> Alberto: can still forward
[11:33:37] <chromas> oh, TheMightyBuzzard: someone's taken on another systemd subsystem—logind
[11:33:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[11:33:57] <chromas> so that's exciting huh? <elbow jab, elbow jab>
[11:34:18] <chromas> forking systemd subsystems to be their own things
[11:34:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, prolly good for uselessd
[11:34:59] <chromas> So now we'll have uselessd, LoginKit and uh…shit, I forgot the other one
[11:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean it'll prolly get rolled in to uselessd
[11:35:28] <chromas> lol
[11:35:29] <ciri> hahaha
[11:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> as an optional
[11:35:47] <chromas> I don't think he wants it
[11:35:52] <chromas> to be part
[11:35:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> like it shoulda been to begin with
[11:36:09] <chromas> oh, eudev's the other I was thinking of
[11:36:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:37:02] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: the uselessd guy is replacing the dbus interface with a virtual filesystem, ueslessfs
[11:37:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i didn't dig on being able to pull the latest release of most any package i'd move back to slackware for my desktop. i kinda miss it anyway.
[11:37:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, i don mind dbus. i never use it for things i write anyway.
[11:38:20] <chromas> I think he and his friends or whatever you'd call them have been tinkering with 9p and stuff
[11:38:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'kinda like qt in that. as long as it don't get in my way, wtf do i care about it?
[11:38:32] <chromas> the everything's a file concept
[11:38:35] <Konomi> why is it starting to sound like all the anti systemd crowd is just trying to make remake systemd now
[11:39:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[11:39:09] <chromas> Konomi: the uselessd guy at least was doing it just to see if he could
[11:39:30] <chromas> he doesn't think systemd is bad, just encroaching
[11:39:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> same reason the anti-GG folks started doxxing. people are bloody stupid assholes.
[11:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i just tied GG to systemd. flamebait for the whole family, baby.
[11:40:56] <Konomi> it's always the loud obnoxious parts of the community you hear about first
[11:41:00] <chromas> better mention the aca and beta while you're at it
[11:41:31] <chromas> obama created systemd; systemd created ebola
[11:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm. well the aca running folks already have our doxx
[11:41:53] <Konomi> aca?
[11:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm more wondering when the NSA is going to start doxxing its enemies
[11:42:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> obamacare
[11:42:16] <Konomi> I'm losing track of all the 3 letter shortenings at this point
[11:42:31] <Konomi> um the nsa already does dox
[11:42:34] <Konomi> that's the whole point of it
[11:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, nobody really calls it the ACA except the mainstream press
[11:42:38] <chromas> it's what obamacare used to be before support for it switched from republicans to democrats
[11:42:39] <Konomi> they just don't release them ;p
[11:43:17] <Konomi> yeah there was some news report that said "you watch soon as republicans realise more people like obamacare they'll call it something else"
[11:43:24] <Konomi> guessing that'd be aca now
[11:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, republicans still don't like it cause the country still hates it by the polls
[11:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's never had popular support
[11:46:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> only had republican support while the dems were proposing worse.
[11:46:54] <Konomi> wewll I can see why tbh it's basically forced consumerism
[11:47:09] <Konomi> nothing like the actual socialised health care we have here
[11:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's an unholy mess that nobody was ever really in favor of truth be known. dems only grabbed it cause they couldn't get single payer passed.
[11:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> reps only pushed it before that cause they didn't wanna be seen as the No party
[11:48:25] <Konomi> yeah pretty sure the vested interests will gut anything even slightly progressive for health care there...
[11:48:47] <chromas> It Came From Taxachusetts (rated R)
[11:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> us != a progressive country.
[11:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> quite conservative by the numbers.
[11:49:18] <Konomi> au might not be soon too ;p
[11:49:40] <Konomi> thought I expect these conservative pricks to get booted out next election
[11:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be exceedingly capitalistic. now you mostly have a choice between chrony capitalistic or socialistic
[11:51:34] <chromas> one choice
[11:51:42] <chromas> chronycapitalistic socialodocious
[11:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> with 60-80% of us giving a big FU to socialism, depending on the specific issue
[11:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, very little difference really. either the state decides who gets wealthy or the elected officials argue over who gets wealthy.
[11:54:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> the non-system-gamers get screwed right up the keister under either one, rich or poor.
[11:54:58] <Konomi> imeplement soylent plan
[11:55:02] <Konomi> eat them all
[11:56:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> cook em all maybe. politicians are too slimy to wanna eat unless you like stuff like squid already.
[12:01:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cybersecurity Bill Gets New Life in Senate - http://sylnt.us - series-of-tubes
[12:11:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh joy. just what we need. more government involvement in private affairs.
[12:20:20] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[12:20:51] <chromas> is that really your chin?
[12:21:01] <chromas> With a beard that macho, who knows what's under there
[12:21:24] <juggs> lots of wildlife
[12:21:53] <chromas> probably some fooshes
[12:21:56] <chromas> and a regex or two
[12:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely my car keys too
[12:24:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly a small tribe of pygmies
[12:37:09] <juggs> ~weather
[12:37:12] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 44°F / 7°C, partly cloudy, humidity 100% - Friday partly cloudy (32°F-43°F / 0°C-6°C), Saturday clear (35°F-39°F / 2°C-4°C), Sunday chance of showers (34°F-48°F / 1°C-9°C), Monday partly cloudy (30°F-42°F / -1°C-6°C) - source: Google
[12:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like here cept slightly cooler
[12:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[12:38:37] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 55°F / 13°C, rain, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 100% - Friday chance of rain (46°F-70°F / 8°C-21°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (39°F-54°F / 4°C-12°C), Sunday fog (34°F-54°F / 1°C-12°C), Monday mostly cloudy (41°F-59°F / 5°C-15°C) - source: Google
[12:39:16] <juggs> yah - fairly typical december weather really ~shrug~
[12:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well damn. already got that bit of code written. that was too quick. now i gotta find something else to do.
[12:45:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.techdirt.com
[12:45:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Shocking: Sony Learned No Password Lessons After The 2011 PSN Hack | Techdirt
[12:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i may be done with moderation work.
[12:48:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, found something to do
[12:49:19] <juggs> is it ever really done? moderation seems to be one thing you could rework forever, making it ever more complex :D
[12:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. what i set out to do is done now though.
[12:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think.
[12:51:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't feel like testing it yet though
[12:52:51] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: switch the karma to 64-bit floats
[12:53:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> could, wouldn't be difficult
[12:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy to change max karma as well
[12:53:41] <chromas> then make it so there's 'no limit' but it goes up in ever smaller increments
[12:53:51] <chromas> same with modding comments
[12:54:00] <chromas> so it takes many mods to get to 5
[12:54:07] <chromas> 4.974974974974
[12:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it should never get to the top score
[12:54:36] <juggs> there will always be a better comment
[12:55:06] <chromas> ooh!!!!! STACK RANK THE COMMENTS!!!11capslock
[12:55:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> like achilles and the tortoise
[12:56:12] <chromas> then whoever comes out at the bottom loses—looses their account and has to go live on the street with beta
[12:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> could write a script to scramble one random user's password every day
[12:58:56] <chromas> you must also write a script to watch when they try to login
[12:59:21] <chromas> so you can see how many times they retry; maybe plot a graph of the buildup of frustration
[12:59:57] <chromas> botctl could watch it and show stats in the secret spai channel
[13:00:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, botctl doesn't get any fancy super powers over the live server
[13:00:37] <chromas> doesn't need to
[13:00:51] <chromas> it just needs to hit a server-side script
[13:00:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, if i'm actually done with moderation i need to polish the api up some for release.
[13:01:16] * chromas begins changing "api, api"
[13:01:43] <juggs> coming soon to an app store near you - The SoylentNews App
[13:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's got most everything an AC needs cept poll access.
[13:02:04] <chromas> that's okay; nobody wants to vote on that poll anymore
[13:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, yeah. probably mostly get used for bots but still.
[13:03:00] <chromas> if you make the site look shitty on mobile then someone'll make an application for it
[13:03:17] <juggs> Be interesting to see if there's even the remotest interest in a phone app. Perhaps we could run a poll on the question
[13:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for it. you got front page monkeying with access yet?
[13:05:00] <juggs> I've no idea, I think I have editor level access
[13:05:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:05:55] <juggs> I'll see in a little while, I can always ask for MOAR if I can't do it :)
[13:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno how to set a poll myself anyways
[13:06:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i danged sure know how to bump ya up to uber-admin though
[13:07:02] <juggs> sounds dangerous
[13:07:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[13:08:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't even have editor powah on live cause i haven't given it to myself
[13:09:52] <chromas> If there were a SoylentNews api, which of these things would you be interested in making? [ ] mobile application [ ] bots [ ] nothing, you insensitive dirt piece [ ] new web front-end [ ] CowboyZeal [9] 27
[13:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh, see what ya get for letting the world see your vm? some douche trying to hack me.
[13:10:13] <chromas> put it on port 0
[13:12:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, there's how to put up a new poll
[13:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, practice over here till you get it how you want it: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:13:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Dev.SN Poll
[13:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme know if you can't access that
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[13:22:40] <juggs> oooh - the pink is.... very pink! :)
[13:23:44] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I can access it, but see no options for editing or adding a new poll
[13:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> you logged in on it?
[13:27:04] <juggs> yup yup - had to passwd recover, but I'm logged in now
[13:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't see the admin bar up top?
[13:31:23] <juggs> nope. I have that on live but not on dev. Must've had my privs changed on live later than the last database refresh to dev
[13:31:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, dev is old
[13:32:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's your uid and i'll fix that?
[13:32:36] <juggs> 63
[13:33:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, should be good now
[13:35:35] <juggs> newp - no admin bar.
[13:36:55] <chromas> Do you need scripts turned on for it?
[13:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke, your seclev is now ONE MILLION
[13:37:09] <juggs> eep
[13:37:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, prolly, yeah
[13:37:46] <chromas> I'll take a -1
[13:38:03] <chromas> Less than no securities
[13:38:36] <juggs> newp - still no admin bar :_( Cleared cache, tried different browser... no administereo
[13:39:19] <chromas> Did you try turning it off and on again?
[13:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> on dev.soylentnews.org, yes?
[13:44:06] <juggs> yup
[13:44:14] <juggs> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:44:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[13:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> bouncing the server see if that fixes it
[13:46:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> better?
[13:47:06] <juggs> nod - that's got uit
[13:47:08] <juggs> it
[13:47:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool beans
[13:48:01] <juggs> and yup - have poll edit access too - thanks!
[13:50:22] <juggs> that vt100 theme is great :)
[13:54:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yeah it amused me
[13:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> think there's still some ugliness bugs in it but i don't feel like chasing em down. let the users or bytram do that.
[13:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, i think moderation is almost done. just need to test tweaks to who gets points when.
[13:57:08] <chromas> I thought terminals were supposed to be ugly :)
[13:57:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well they're not sposed to have non-terminal-themed stuff in them
[13:57:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++ # in moderation for moderation
[13:57:40] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 122
[14:01:17] <chromas> all_mobile_browsers-- for #this page does not support zooming
[14:01:17] <Bender> karma - all_mobile_browsers: -1
[14:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, you're the decider now... whatcha think about giving everyone cept ac five points a day for the duration of the new moderation experiment?
[14:04:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what i'm leaning towards with tweaks as necessary as we go.
[14:04:54] <juggs> makes sense to me - we need as much feedback as possible. What's the criteria for dishing out points after the experiment, or is that TBD?
[14:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> well right now it's a complicated system, during the experiment criteria would basically be anyone whose account is a month old and isn't the AC account.
[14:07:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> essentially everyone gets points.
[14:08:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> curious to see how everyone having a limited few points affects scores
[14:08:31] <juggs> ok - run with that. We'll need to announce it as a trial period and that it will be tweaked based on feedback etc. But yeah, seems sane to me.
[14:09:30] <juggs> Yep, we're not really going to know how it works out in reality until it's up n running.
[14:09:37] <juggs> Will be interesting to see
[14:10:43] <juggs> Right, I need to run out and forage before the friday afternoon traffic nightmare starts.
[14:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, bout to code up that change, call it done, work on a post about it, and let it stew for a day or two see if i find any more needs fixed.
[14:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> luck in the hunt
[14:12:35] <chromas> No post. Sneak it in and see if anyone notices
[14:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha
[14:15:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering giving ACs mod points based on ip address
[14:15:54] <chromas> Surprise updates. Also put an animated gif clippit in the corner
[14:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> did implement a method for allowing new tags without showing them in the allowed tags area
[14:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> could pretty easily slip a new one in
[14:21:05] <chromas> How about a <💩> tag
[14:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea what to do with that
[14:24:34] <chromas> Or a <poo> tag that resolves to 💩
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[14:30:31] <chromas> BitchX had a release last month :O
[14:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Blackmoore
[14:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy monkey
[14:33:36] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:34:31] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:34:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9895
[14:37:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:37:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9896
[14:44:04] <Blackmoore> wish i could do live updates for the launch today.
[14:44:11] <Blackmoore> but i'm at work.
[14:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ems the breaks
[14:45:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm kickin out teh code as usual
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[15:01:31] <Blackmoore> .. id attempt some urban crap about "dope code" but i am just too damn rural to get it right
[15:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> same here. if i were any more rural i'd have to run tcp over carrier pigeon protocol
[15:03:44] <chromas> In the city it's udp over lead
[15:04:02] <chromas> Multicast
[15:04:03] <Blackmoore> hehe.. i was sorely tempted to set up a network over barbed wire.
[15:06:10] <Leebert> I has a bit of sad about the launch...
[15:06:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> it get canned again?
[15:06:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been busy with code
[15:06:42] <Leebert> hopping a train to florida today... If it were delayed I might have been able to catch it.
[15:06:47] <Leebert> Nope, it launched.
[15:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, bummer
[15:07:23] <Blackmoore> well i'm glad it did. sorry i missed it
[15:08:17] <Leebert> I really have to get back on that whole launch thing. Been asleep at the switch for a while.
[15:08:44] <Leebert> But it just wasn't feasible to take time off this week.
[15:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i don't much care about launches. i care more about landings and acquiring nifty data.
[15:14:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> eggsellent... my evil plan is complete.
[15:14:56] <Leebert> I actually was in the neighborhood for a shuttle landing once. Pretty darn awesome.
[15:15:16] <Leebert> I never got around to weaseling myself access to the shuttle landing facility for a landing. I regret that.
[15:15:40] <Leebert> the double sonic boom was teh awesome
[15:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> meant like comet/moon/mars/etc... landings. earth landings i can see a plane do any time i like by going up to the airport.
[15:16:06] <Leebert> Fair enough. :)
[15:16:32] <Leebert> But to be fair, you can't see explosions like Antares just anywere! :)
[15:17:17] <paulej72> I was in Orlando during a Shuttle landing, heard two pops and wondered what they were for a few seconds ( I was in swimming pool at the time). Then I remembered the landing and dual soinc booms the Shuttle makes as it comes in.
[15:22:52] <Blackmoore> #Orion's now in position for separation from its service module & #DeltaIVHeavy second stage. http://www.nasa.gov pic.twitter.com/AFYpcKpa8u
[15:22:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03 ( /multimedia/nasatv/index.html )
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[16:51:05] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.princevault.com
[16:51:24] <Ethanol-fueled> This is doctor Finkelstein, a Jew who practices medicine without a license.
[16:51:38] <Ethanol-fueled> He is rumored to be a heavy cocaine user, hence his wearing sunglasses indoors.
[16:51:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Be on the lookout.
[16:51:57] <ciri> ok Ethanol-fueled
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[16:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://9gag.com
[16:53:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Merry Christmas from the Dark Side - 9GAG
[17:14:35] <juggs> Ha - ciri got it right that time :D
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[18:41:00] <SirFinkus> aww man, I missed the launch
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[18:57:02] <juggs> And the splash down
[18:57:39] <SirFinkus> well, not a bad start in any case
[19:04:35] <SirFinkus> I think this whole thing is a good move by NASA, should get the public more excited, and maybe more funding
[19:05:15] <SirFinkus> Sending yet another probe to Mars may yield neat science, but it isn't really all the exciting anymore
[19:05:26] <SirFinkus> except to nerds of course
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[19:15:34] <Blackmoore> I'm so glad it went as well as it did.
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[20:01:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MSFT Hikes Support Charges by 92 Percent - http://sylnt.us - bang-for-your-buck
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[20:32:55] <Blackmoore> more like more buck for a bang.
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[22:05:22] <crutchy> lol http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:22] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[22:05:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Tork (3914)
[22:08:40] <chromas> Was that NCommander in disguise?
[22:09:52] <crutchy> dunno. he could sockpuppet as anyone i'm guessing cos he has godmode access to the db
[22:10:03] <crutchy> not sure why he would though
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[22:18:01] <crutchy> procrastination++ # i decided to try the N-O-D-E foreground and background colors in xchat
[22:18:01] <Bender> karma - procrastination: 1
[22:18:47] <crutchy> rain-- # cos i gotta go out in it in a couple of hours :/
[22:18:47] <Bender> karma - rain: 1
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[22:34:17] <Leebert> The "certified secure sites" story makes me think that Soylent's inaugural April Fools joke should be to get a McAfee SECURE certification.
[22:36:37] <crutchy> i cant even remember what happened on april 1st this year. can't have been very memorable
[22:37:10] <crutchy> prolly just a dodgy april 1st tfa
[22:40:28] <SirFinkus> it was pretty lame, bacon news
[22:40:43] <SirFinkus> of course the site hadn't been running that long at that point
[22:41:14] <paulej72> it was our first major update, hidden by bacon news network
[22:41:34] <Leebert> oh, right, forgot about that.
[22:41:41] <Leebert> so, first REAL april fools joke
[22:44:00] <chromas> Next year, NCommander was hired by redhat and slash is being absorbed...
[22:44:15] <Leebert> Argh, I missed a chance on the solar panels story to take a jab at the brits by talking about "net metreing"
[22:44:25] <paulej72> no slash is built into systemd
[22:44:42] <crutchy> sn servers prolly already have systemd on them
[22:44:52] <paulej72> hell no
[22:45:12] <crutchy> newbuntu
[22:45:36] <chromas> Switching to CentOs
[22:45:40] <JamesNZ> Ewbuntu.
[22:45:43] <paulej72> Ubuntu <= 14_04 and one Centos 6 server
[22:46:30] <crutchy> pretty soon even routers will have systemd
[22:46:35] <paulej72> centos 7 is systemd
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[22:47:28] <paulej72> pretty soon someone will need to wirte an init system to run systemd
[22:48:42] <Leebert> then we can port systemd to systemd, and kill it using a captain kirk-style logic bomb.
[22:48:45] <Leebert> BRILLIANT!
[22:49:05] <crutchy> hehe. april 1st joke next year => a placeholder page with "SN tried to update to releases of Spewbuntu and CentralOS with systemd, but systemd ate our babies so there will be no more SN."
[22:50:12] <paulej72> 24 hrs of “Please be patient as we upgrade slash to include systemd”
[22:51:10] <crutchy> paulej72, s/include systemd/depend on systemd/
[22:51:10] <sedctl> <crutchy> <paulej72> 24 hrs of “Please be patient as we upgrade slash to depend on systemd”
[22:51:22] <paulej72> lol
[22:55:37] <elf> hi, can anyone remember the last staff meeting date? I was going to read the chat logs for it but then realised there are quite a few to check!
[22:56:35] <crutchy> prolly on the wiki somewhere
[22:57:11] <crutchy> there's this one: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[22:57:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Staff Meeting 21 August 2014
[22:57:28] <paulej72> elf a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
[22:57:51] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[22:57:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Board of Directors Meeting - September 30 2014
[22:58:06] <crutchy> ^ not really a 'staff' meeting but
[22:58:23] <elf> thanks :)
[22:58:26] <crutchy> ~staff meeting
[22:58:30] <exec> 03********** 05SOYLENTNEWS BOARD MEETING03 **********
[22:58:31] <exec> 03Time: Wednesday October 29th at 1:15am UTC (Tuesday October 28th at 9:15pm EDT) Place: irc.sylnt.us:6667/6697#staff (Webchat) Chair: To Be Determined
[22:58:39] <crutchy> lol
[22:58:42] <crutchy> oky doky
[22:58:59] <paulej72> it can still happen crutchy
[22:59:10] <paulej72> we can recon it in
[22:59:28] <paulej72> s/recon/retcon/
[22:59:28] <sedctl> <paulej72> we can retcon it in
[23:00:56] <crutchy> that was from http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:00:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Issues to Be Raised at the Next Board Meeting
[23:01:45] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:01:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9895
[23:01:46] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:01:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9894
[23:02:06] <paulej72> !whoup coffee
[23:02:06] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: TheMightyBuzzard: 741, crutchy: 739, Blackmoore: 224, Bytram: 86, chromas: 83, crutchy_: 26, mrcoolbp: 19, mattie_p: 16, MrBluze: 15, arti: 15, paulej72: 14, mechanicjay: 13, AndyTheAbsurd: 13, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, Ethanol-fueled: 10, Alberto: 9, exec: 8, silverly: 6, Bytram|away: 5, idetuxs: 4, monopoly: 4, rand: 3, keplr: 3, matt_: 3, - 2 more
[23:02:16] <paulej72> !more
[23:02:17] <Bender> juggs: 3, crutchy__: 3, Blackmoore_: 3, mattiep: 2, TheMightyBuzzard|Book: 2, systemd: 2, Blackmoore|afk: 2, Bytram|afk: 2, SpallsHurgenson: 2, ar: 2, prospectacle: 2, SoyCow7650: 1, Blkackmoore: 1, chimp: 1, netctl: 1, everdred: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Gone: 1, San-Diego-Super-Chargers: 1, xlefay: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|AFK: 1, blackmoore|afk: 1, crutchy_fone: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Laptop: - 1 more
[23:02:34] <paulej72> !more
[23:02:34] <Bender> 1, john: 1, Bald-headed-John-Plooker: 1, SedBot2: 1, NetCraft: 1, botctl: 1, unixpickle: 1, crutchy|zzz: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Fishing: 1, \: 1, Konomi: 1, TheMightyBuzzard|Out: 1, SedBot9000: 1, crutchety: 1, mrcool|livingthedream: 1
[23:02:56] <paulej72> ????
[23:02:57] <mrcoolbp> Ping of death ^^
[23:03:17] <paulej72> sure sure, but how does that add up to 9894
[23:03:27] <JamesNZ> Cheating ;)
[23:03:27] <paulej72> !whodown coffee
[23:03:27] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -606, JamesNZ: -484, SpallsHurgenson: -38, swiss: -37, geotti: -14, TheMightyBuzzard: -12, TheMightyTest: -11, Anti-Coffeeman: -8, crutchy: -7, aqu4: -3, Subsentient: -3, NCommander: -2, SirFinkus: -2, prospectacle: -2, chromas: -1, chimp: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, Dickcheese-Smegma: -1, juggs: -1, unixpickle: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, Azrael: -1
[23:03:33] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:03:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9893
[23:03:34] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:03:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9892
[23:04:34] <elf> is there a specific channel the boardmeetings take place in? I couldn't see the logs from the wiki in the staff channel
[23:05:08] <paulej72> most were in #staff
[23:05:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you edit the score file and bounce bender
[23:06:04] <paulej72> most of them started at 22:00 UTC and finished on the next day.
[23:06:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> easier than having to spam coffee++ in the channel
[23:06:17] <Leebert> help me! I'vve been subsumed by TV Tropes
[23:06:25] <elf> ah wait the logs are in a diff time zone, I just checked next day and all good!
[23:06:32] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: yes but did you not give the score file a name for the extra points?
[23:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it doesn't need correct math
[23:07:59] <paulej72> the file was edited for ## and bacon was given revolution: 100420
[23:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[23:08:49] <mrcoolbp> one guess who that was
[23:09:57] -!- idetuxs [idetuxs!~idetuxs@181.164.iuu.pi] has joined #Soylent
[23:10:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> good timing on the ping-o-death btw. i would have napped through dinner
[23:11:29] <mrcoolbp> juggs, so do we need to pay the linode account early?
[23:11:36] <paulej72> ping-o-death is why i have the sound truned off on my lappy
[23:12:55] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: yeah, but I like to know when someone actually pings me
[23:13:12] * mrcoolbp hacks around with his client to try to disable sounds for Bender
[23:13:33] <paulej72> /ignore Bender :)
[23:14:28] <Blackmoore> throws Leebert a floating harness
[23:14:32] <mrcoolbp> maybe someone can write me a regext that does it
[23:14:40] <mrcoolbp> er, regex
[23:15:32] <paulej72> regret
[23:16:53] <mrcoolbp> regret not knowing regex = (
[23:17:46] <juggs> ~weather
[23:17:47] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 41°F / 5°C, clear, humidity 100% - Friday clear (32°F-44°F / 0°C-7°C), Saturday clear (36°F-41°F / 2°C-5°C), Sunday chance of rain (36°F-48°F / 2°C-9°C), Monday partly cloudy (29°F-42°F / -2°C-6°C) - source: Google
[23:18:01] <mrcoolbp> ~weather
[23:18:02] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 42°F / 6°C, overcast, humidity 60% - Friday mostly cloudy (37°F-43°F / 3°C-6°C), Saturday rain (36°F-54°F / 2°C-12°C), Sunday partly cloudy (25°F-43°F / -4°C-6°C), Monday cloudy (45°F-39°F / 7°C-4°C) - source: Google
[23:18:12] <Blackmoore> Have a good weekedn folk - i'm out.
[23:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, see yas
[23:18:22] <mrcoolbp> later Blackmoore
[23:18:31] <juggs> damn well not 5C out here in the sticks - just had to deice the car :(
[23:18:33] -!- Blackmoore has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[23:18:44] <paulej72> ~weather
[23:18:45] <exec> Weather for Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 39°F / 4°C, light rain, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 93% - Friday rain (39°F-48°F / 4°C-9°C), Saturday rain (34°F-54°F / 1°C-12°C), Sunday partly cloudy (25°F-45°F / -4°C-7°C), Monday cloudy (36°F-41°F / 2°C-5°C) - source: Google
[23:19:58] <crutchy> mrcoolbp... can disable alerts pretty easily in (he)xchat
[23:20:17] <juggs> mrcoolbp, we'll certainly be wanting to pay something early onto the linode account. How much depends if I can convince myself whether we need an accountant or not
[23:20:20] <mrcoolbp> I want to disable for only bender, I guess /ignore is easiest
[23:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's mirc-ing it
[23:20:35] <crutchy> ah
[23:20:50] <crutchy> in xchat there's a 'nick names not to highlight' setting
[23:20:57] <crutchy> i've got most of the bots in there
[23:21:03] <mrcoolbp> juggs: we will have a better idea after we get QuickBooks setup right
[23:21:14] <crutchy> so don't have to ignore them completely but i don't get pinged by them
[23:21:41] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: that's sweet, but I'm too lazy to setup another IRC client. thanks tho
[23:22:02] <juggs> mrcoolbp, for sure. Have we any credit balances sat with bitpay or zazzle?
[23:22:17] <mrcoolbp> only a few, most of it is paypal
[23:22:31] <juggs> we have a cash balance in paypal?
[23:22:45] <paulej72> are we trying not to have income on the books?
[23:22:58] <mrcoolbp> I tend to withdraw constantly, but we end up with a balance everytime someone buys a sub = )
[23:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, basically, yeah, so we don't have to pay taxes on it.
[23:23:28] <juggs> paulej72, we're trying not to have a cash balance on hand come 31st Dec (financial year end) as it would count as profit and attract tax
[23:23:35] <crutchy> ++coffee
[23:23:35] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 135
[23:24:18] * mrcoolbp withdraws ~$200 into the BOA account
[23:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[23:24:30] <paulej72> can’t we declare any time period as our financial year, or is this in the bylaws
[23:24:43] <mrcoolbp> bylaws
[23:25:02] <mrcoolbp> I imagine we could ammend them
[23:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm, i wouldn't screw with the tax man.
[23:25:36] <juggs> doesn't really matter when we declare - the cash on hand will bite us at whatever date
[23:26:20] <crutchy> or it will inflate away... $2 out of every $100 or so every year
[23:26:20] <paulej72> i like juggs plan then to prepay our hosting fees.
[23:26:21] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, agreed - screwing with the tax men of any flavour always ends badly
[23:26:34] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: are we paying for oxygen now?
[23:26:44] <mrcoolbp> I don't think so
[23:26:57] <crutchy> we're just paying
[23:27:17] <mrcoolbp> nah, it's free, I breathe that stuff whenever I feel like it
[23:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, was my thinking too. hosting is our #1 priority, even before taxes.
[23:27:24] <juggs> do we have access to oxygen if we need to avail ourselves of its services?
[23:27:32] <mrcoolbp> Not sure, we gotta ask NC
[23:27:37] <mrcoolbp> it went down at some point
[23:27:40] <crutchy> we need buttpay... the honest way to fuck taxpayers
[23:27:45] <paulej72> right now yes, but I do not know when the bill is due next
[23:27:48] <mrcoolbp> oh
[23:28:11] <mrcoolbp> I don't think we've every payed for that with SN money, I can check the account tho
[23:28:41] <juggs> Yah check that, we probably owe NC some $$ for that
[23:28:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> must go hunt up stomach fodder
[23:29:00] <crutchy> ~define-add SN money, better than monopoly money cos its edible
[23:29:00] <exec> definition for term "SN money" set to "better than monopoly money cos its edible"
[23:29:09] <paulej72> The last time it came up NCommander was going to set you up an account after he finished his trip (this was on his trip from AK to the lower 48)
[23:29:26] <juggs> me?
[23:29:47] -!- elf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[23:29:59] <crutchy> its the new subscriber perk... free credit cards
[23:30:28] <crutchy> now with a low low interest rate of 47%!
[23:30:45] <paulej72> NCommander was going to setup mrcoolbp
[23:31:28] <mrcoolbp> I recall that, I guess we'll need to pester him some more
[23:31:52] <juggs> OK - as long as we have the means to pay for it and the means to access the actual box to grab the backups should the SHTF - all will be good
[23:32:46] <mrcoolbp> I think I seem to remember it on a longer-than-one-month billing cycle, but I could be wrong
[23:33:19] <crutchy> break out #soylentnews@freenode in case of SHTF
[23:33:25] <paulej72> the billing cycle was when i cheched the server was down and pested NCommander to pay the bill
[23:33:41] <juggs> ok, something to keep in mind as a possible expense that may need accounting for
[23:34:29] <juggs> damn - I ~still~ haven't done the announcey things... I keep sidetracking myself :)
[23:36:28] <crutchy> announcey things?
[23:36:44] -!- Tachyon [Tachyon!~Tachyon@xuco.me] has joined #Soylent
[23:36:57] <crutchy> does bender have a reminder plugin?
[23:36:59] * juggs whistles nonchalantly
[23:37:46] <paulej72> not activated, but there might be one available
[23:38:29] <juggs> I'm starting to think there's nothing Bender can't do
[23:38:43] <crutchy> i could whip up a dodgy one, but no guarantee that its always online so prolly no point. bender prolly best
[23:38:45] <paulej72> its python baby
[23:38:57] <chromas> Bender is the systemd of bots
[23:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[23:39:09] <paulej72> surly you jest
[23:39:10] <chromas> Notice how there's no documentation
[23:39:28] <mrcoolbp> don't call me "surly"
[23:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> python ain't difficult but it is absolutely as annoying as systemd to have to remember whitespace matters
[23:39:33] <paulej72> you just need to know how to find it in the internet archive
[23:39:40] <crutchy> documentations is for *censored*
[23:40:00] <juggs> many have died trying to document Bender, their virtual corpses litter the darker corners of carbon
[23:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, one of these days i should read the slashcode documentation
[23:40:45] <juggs> you are the slashcode living document
[23:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo RTFM
[23:40:47] <Bender> todo item 4 added
[23:41:36] <paulej72> https://web.archive.org
[23:41:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Welcome to JSONBOT — JSONBOT v0.84.4 RELEASE documentation
[23:42:28] <paulej72> https://web.archive.org
[23:42:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03REMIND — JSONBOT v0.7 BETA2 documentation
[23:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, didn't set anything out for dinner so grilled cheeses it is tonight.
[23:43:06] <paulej72> grill it on a tortilla so it becomes a quesadilla
[23:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yank grilled cheese or mexican grilled cheese, same same really
[23:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no meat handy to put on it.
[23:44:10] <paulej72> tortilla has room for more cheese :)
[23:45:10] <paulej72> https://web.archive.org
[23:45:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03URLINFO — JSONBOT v0.7 BETA2 documentation
[23:45:38] * TheMightyBuzzard puts on his OMGWTFBBQ apron and heads to do the cooking thing
[23:47:06] * JamesNZ watches behind from his shield
[23:47:50] <paulej72> https://web.archive.org
[23:47:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03WIKIPEDIA — JSONBOT v0.7 BETA2 documentation
[23:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, fook it. ima go eat out n get a christmas tree.
[23:48:08] <paulej72> https://web.archive.org
[23:48:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03WEATHER — JSONBOT v0.7 BETA2 documentation
[23:48:58] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $2,800.16 to $3005.81
[23:49:15] <JamesNZ> \o/
[23:49:22] * JamesNZ breaks out the champagne
[23:49:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> champagne after march 27. tax day.
[23:50:18] <mrcoolbp> Good News is, we've already covered server hosting costs until at least May, even if no one else subscribes. On the other hand, we can't afford a lawyer or pay back founders yet
[23:50:45] <JamesNZ> What do we need a lawyer for?
[23:50:55] <crutchy> getting f**ked
[23:50:56] <mrcoolbp> currently nothing, but you never know
[23:50:57] <crutchy> :p
[23:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> for when we get sued for starters
[23:51:01] <chromas> in case somebody insults scientology or the jews
[23:51:17] <crutchy> we e-f to protect us from jews
[23:51:17] <JamesNZ> That's been done a million times already :P
[23:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully we're still small enough nobody's noticed
[23:51:44] <crutchy> and romans. we need protection from the romans!
[23:51:45] <chromas> JamesNZ: then don't you think we're overdue?
[23:52:08] <JamesNZ> chromas: I don't think we're big enough for anyone to care (as TMB said).
[23:52:26] <JamesNZ> And honestly, they'd have better luck suing Youtube.
[23:52:32] <paulej72> !sex
[23:52:32] * Bender Veel te koud voor sex. paulej72
[23:52:37] <chromas> youtube has money
[23:52:39] <JamesNZ> And honestly, they'd have better luck suing youtube.
[23:52:42] <chromas> to fight back
[23:52:59] <JamesNZ> Yeah, but they have way more stuff to sue about.
[23:53:02] <mrcoolbp> yeah, but we have no money to sue *for*
[23:53:05] <JamesNZ> *Way* more.
[23:53:23] <JamesNZ> I doubt that'll stop anyone :)
[23:53:37] <chromas> just your house and tmb's fooshes and awesome beard
[23:53:39] <mrcoolbp> they couldn't pay a lawyer for 15 minutes even if they took every cent we had = )
[23:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, which means they could shut our doors utterly rather than just cost us money
[23:53:59] <mrcoolbp> well, wouldn't take much to reopen them
[23:54:12] <chromas> SoylentHydra
[23:54:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> true but it would have to be a different company
[23:54:27] <JamesNZ> chromas: Meh, we could just sell all TheMightyBuzzard's coffee :D
[23:54:35] <crutchy> if SN had incorporated in the great nation of Nauru we woulddn't have to worry about lawyers or taxes
[23:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> f that, sell pictures of JamesNZ molesting sheeps
[23:55:04] <chromas> JamesNZ: it's not coffee anymore; it's golden tea
[23:55:10] <JamesNZ> Lulz.
[23:55:25] <chromas> I thought that was the Hobbit movie
[23:55:45] <JamesNZ> No, that's with rabbits.
[23:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hobbits molested sheeps? man i'm glad i stopped watching halfway through the first one
[23:56:34] <crutchy> tmb, could be worse... there could be a kids movie with interspecies mating between a donkey and a dragon
[23:56:36] <JamesNZ> s/sheeps/sheep/
[23:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> kiwis: sheep fuckers, aussies: roo fuckers, yanks: just fuckers
[23:56:58] <juggs> mrcoolbp, need to go a little light on that months of hosting covered until we fully decide whether we need shafting by an accountant or not to file this year's return.
[23:57:04] <JamesNZ> Careful crutchy, someone might do just that (remember Shrek).
[23:57:13] * chromas looks around for some justs
[23:57:24] <crutchy> oh gawd imagine if they made a second shrek movie
[23:57:36] <chromas> or a first one
[23:57:40] <crutchy> or third, or fourth even
[23:57:40] <JamesNZ> No, I meant the "Shrek is love, Shrek is life" video.
[23:58:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, off to find a tree and eat of the mexican foods
[23:58:09] <mrcoolbp> juggs: the more I learned about it, the less confidence I had in my ability to get the books right. I mean I understand it but there's so much to screw up. I took the position under the impression that a CPA would look at it before we did the deed.
[23:58:40] <crutchy> mrcoolbp, can SN 'reincorporate' in a less complicated country?
[23:58:56] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: like pirate island?
[23:59:13] <chromas> crutchy: you go start another company then initiate a hostile takeover
[23:59:14] <paulej72> All I know about accounting is that accountants call everything backasswards to keep the peons out of there domain
[23:59:28] <JamesNZ> ~define peon
[23:59:31] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3peon: Someone with the lowest social standing, such that commoners may pee on them with impunity. One social level below serfs, untouchables, and freshmen.
[23:59:32] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: that's the least confusing part of it unfortunately
[23:59:39] <crutchy> lol