#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-08
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[00:00:07] <juggs> :D
[00:00:47] <paulej72> sun sucks donkey balls
[00:01:10] <paulej72> svn damn autocorrect
[00:01:13] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[00:01:14] <dogpipe> ^ 03Rick (@RickandMorty) performs Rap God by @Eminem - YouTube
[00:02:37] <juggs> Not many results in yet, but exit polls are suggesting a notable swing towards the Conservative party (but still not an overall majority), Labour somewhat gutted by much of Scotland voting for the Scottish National Party and the Liberal Democrats (junior party in the previous coalition) losing most of their seats.
[00:03:52] <juggs> Full results won't be in for another 6 hours or so. Don't plan staying up for that :)
[00:04:33] <paulej72> this is the issue. the average voter things all politicians suck except the ones that represent them
[00:05:11] <arti> :D
[00:11:34] <juggs> So - looks like we are going to end up with another Tory term, probably short of ~10 seats for overall majority. Will be interesting to see if they try to from another coalition or will govern with a slight minority and rely on per bill other party support to get stuff through.
[00:25:03] <BadCoderFinger> paulej72, That's true enough, made worse by the fact that none of them represent anyone. The job seems to attract narcissists bent on padding their wallets. Any voter delusional enough to think they are being represented deserves what they get.
[00:25:37] <BadCoderFinger> Ok, that's not really true. The voter doesn't deserve that.
[00:30:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GOG Galaxy Enters Open Beta - http://sylnt.us - games-games-gimme-games
[00:37:19] <juggs> It possibly is true in a first past the post system.
[00:39:08] <juggs> Got to love a radio station that still plays Men Without Hats - Safety Dance :D Local Radio ftw!
[01:18:14] -!- Subsentient [Subsentient!~WhiteRat@172.56.xz.pto] has joined #Soylent
[01:19:37] * arti loads up more peanutbutter covered carrots and celery and leaves the offerings in front of the great rat
[01:24:10] * juggs scatters some grated cheese around
[01:28:51] <juggs> Douglas Alexander (Shadow Foreign Secretary) lost seat to a 20 y/o SNP candidate (Mhairi Black) - Labour are not having a good time today in the land of the Scots.
[01:29:45] <juggs> 26.9% swing from Labour to SNP.
[02:00:13] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:00:14] <dogpipe> ^ 03With FTC suit looming, ATT backs off on throttling 'unlimited' data plans • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:01:35] <Bytram> well, that was a bit of a delay!
[02:02:17] <Bytram> let's try another: http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[02:02:19] <dogpipe> ^ 03'Fracture' prints, not fingerprints, help solve child abuse cases -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[02:02:20] <Bytram> ~uid
[02:02:22] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5241, owned by Empyrean
[02:06:23] <juggs> hola Bytram o/ how goes it?
[02:06:37] <juggs> ~time Bytram
[02:06:39] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 8 May 2015, 2:06 am
[02:06:54] <Bytram> had a day off and tried to take things easy
[02:07:05] <Bytram> but had to do a little testing, nonetheless =)
[02:07:24] <Bytram> found a wierd variation on the UTF-8 char testing...
[02:07:57] <juggs> I'm not sure if your are committed or should be committed for your own good - but thank you for your thoroughness :)
[02:07:58] <Bytram> paste in 0x0001..0x07ff into a story, submit it, and then push to main page, gets borked on main page but looks find in the editor screens
[02:08:51] <Bytram> then, tryied submitting another story, with just a little text, opened submissions queue, previewed story, and ONLY THEN did I paste in the UTF-8 chars; all looks okay.
[02:09:06] <Bytram> that should help a bunch in isolating where the problem is happening.
[02:09:10] <Bytram> =)
[02:09:52] <juggs> Sounds like something for TMB or paulej72 - sounds like a problem differing in the display logic between the pages rather than a DB issue.
[02:10:44] <Bytram> nod nod; tmb saw the first one and will look at it later, I did the later test to help with the bug isolation.
[02:10:52] <Bytram> I see elections are finished(?) in your neck of the woods and are now waiting on the results?
[02:11:08] <Bytram> wishing you well whatever the outcome.
[02:11:46] <Bytram> looks like mrcoolbp is busy making some changes in the wiki (/join #wiki)
[02:12:01] * mrcoolbp is doin' stuff
[02:12:25] <juggs> Yeh - some counts in so far. As expected Scotland is massively swinging from Labour to SNP. Looks like another Tory term with a slim minority. They may not need a coalition.
[02:12:40] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++ # stuffer doer extrodinaire!
[02:12:40] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 58
[02:12:51] <juggs> mrcoolbp, any news on the CPA front?
[02:13:14] <juggs> mrcoolbp++ too much energy
[02:13:14] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 59
[02:13:31] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++ # /me likes round numbers
[02:13:31] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 60
[02:13:38] <Bytram> =)
[02:13:58] <mrcoolbp> juggs: not yet. My mother is moving accross the country and I took my last opportunity to see her for a while on my last day off, pestering the CPA did not happen as she stayed much longer then I anticipated
[02:13:59] <juggs> 5 dozen :) I like "dozen"
[02:14:13] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I do have tomorrow off though, it's at the top of my priorities
[02:14:50] <Bytram> juggs++ # for keeping an eye on everything with a calm and gentle way of encouraging us to be our best
[02:14:50] <Bender> karma - juggs: 74
[02:14:53] <juggs> mrcoolbp, family first - that should not need to be said.
[02:15:09] <Bytram> juggs++ # see what I mean?
[02:15:09] <Bender> karma - juggs: 75
[02:15:46] <juggs> Bytram, I wouldn't survive in the US - I'm and effin Socialist!!!1
[02:15:52] <juggs> an*
[02:15:55] <Bytram> yeah, so what?
[02:16:11] * Bytram noticed the story queue needs another item or two to make it until morning in the eastern US
[02:16:19] * Bytram goes to push out a story or two
[02:16:32] * mrcoolbp is trying to clean up the Staff Policy doc
[02:16:43] * chromas notes that the eastern US doesn't count ;)
[02:17:47] * Bytram looks at his hands and figures that he can count at least up to 10
[02:18:19] * juggs notes we need some experienced wiki curators. Discoverability is not good. Search seems hit and miss even when you know what you're looking for.
[02:19:05] <mrcoolbp> "Discoverability" ?
[02:19:07] <mythterj> Progress resupply ship expected to re-enter within 5 minutes .....
[02:19:08] * Bytram agrees with juggs that it can be difficult to find things on the wiki, and the more we put in there, the harder it will be to clean up, later
[02:19:15] <mythterj> http://www.satflare.com
[02:19:17] <dogpipe> ^ 03PROGRESS-M 27M - NORAD 40619 - 3D Online Satellite Tracking
[02:19:23] <Bytram> mythterj: well, that's progress!
[02:19:41] <mrcoolbp> juggs: yeah, I'm like the only one that organizes that thing, and I'm terrible at that part, but I'm okay with the formatting etc.
[02:22:58] * Bytram would like to do the equivalent of dir/s/b on the entire wiki to see what is out there
[02:23:12] <mrcoolbp> hmm, a lot of ToS, Copywrite, Privacy stuff seems out of place in the staff policy doc...
[02:23:13] * Bytram with date/time stamps and file sizes included.
[02:23:39] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: yeah, that's a holding place atm and THAT IS THE ONLY COPY of those drafts
[02:23:41] <juggs> mrcoolbp, "Discoverability" - yeh bad choice of word. Think of it as hitting the wiki home page as a new comer and then looking for a particular piece of information using search or following links. There's a lot that is not easily discoverable. You kinda have to know what is there in order to search for it. Wiki curation is a specific skill.
[02:23:59] <mrcoolbp> agreed
[02:24:04] <chromas> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:24:05] <dogpipe> ^ 03Wiki: All pages
[02:24:26] <mrcoolbp> I've tried to link to the most "useful" stuff on the main page of the wiki
[02:24:32] <Bytram> hrrrm, /me is almost afraid to load that page... how big is it?
[02:24:44] <mrcoolbp> but a lot of the meat is buried behind 6 or so levels of links
[02:24:55] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: you got that right!
[02:26:16] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I'm in no way suggesting you are responsible. Just suggesting that having dedicated wiki curators is a good thing, Much like librarians.
[02:26:20] * Bytram just pushed out a story. Goes out around 08:40 UTC ==> 04:30 EDT
[02:26:29] -!- Subsentient has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[02:26:31] <mrcoolbp> juggs: aye, I need the help
[02:26:32] <Bytram> looks like I need to find another story to get us to daybreak
[02:26:47] <mrcoolbp> juggs: no one really active in our wiki team
[02:26:48] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: it takes a wise man to know what he does not know
[02:27:20] <Bytram> maybe we shold look for wiki wonka and the chocolate factory?
[02:28:59] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I'd push out a wiki curation help needed post, but given the result from the "developer's needed" post that we had a raft of responses to but no devs brought onboard, I'm kinda wary of doing that.
[02:29:30] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'd say it's non-essential, most of the wiki is for staff documentation
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[02:30:28] <mrcoolbp> okay well I made the first part of the policy doc much easier to read, but the 2nd half of it turns into a long ToS/copywrite thing
[02:30:36] * Bytram donated some <P> tags to a Hugh Pickens story
[02:31:19] <mrcoolbp> bytram: the Privacy Policy discussion might benefit from the information in the 2nd half of that doc, I move that we split it off
[02:31:46] <Bytram> sorry, split what off from what?
[02:31:48] <mrcoolbp> kinda like: Staff Policy, SN user-facing policies
[02:32:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Out-of-Control Russian Spacecraft Set to Burn Up on Friday - http://sylnt.us - duck-and-cover
[02:32:12] * Bytram ponders
[02:33:24] <juggs> ~sigh~ local radio presenters giving election candidates a hard time for not being in the counting hall all night while bits of paper are counted. Who in their right mind would not go off for a few hours kip while the papers were being counted?
[02:33:39] * Bytram clicks to push out a story and can now give full attention to wiki Question
[02:34:05] <Bytram> anyone who thinks some of the counters might not be in their right mind?
[02:34:31] <mrcoolbp> I just spent an hour on that doc, I doubt there's any more I can add or refine this evening
[02:34:54] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: do you have a linky to the policy doc? I don't have one handy
[02:35:14] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:35:14] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03Wiki: SoylentNews Policy Document
[02:35:25] <mrcoolbp> have fun = )
[02:35:54] <Bytram> will do!
[02:35:56] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[02:35:57] <dogpipe> ^ 03Viagra to prevent transmission of the malaria parasite? -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[02:37:55] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: I concur with your assessment, feel free to move the "Privacy, Copyright, Disclaimers, Terms of Use, and DMCA" section someplace else.
[02:38:06] <mrcoolbp> bytram: reload
[02:38:10] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: though I would really appreciate your telling me where it went!
[02:38:23] <mrcoolbp> oh okay
[02:38:27] <mrcoolbp> sec
[02:38:35] <Bytram> times up =)
[02:39:37] * juggs whacks Bytram
[02:39:48] * Bytram just grins
[02:40:04] <Bytram> taking a quick break; back in a few minutes
[02:45:08] <Bytram> back
[02:45:23] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:45:24] <dogpipe> ^ 03Wiki: StaffPolicy
[02:45:33] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:45:33] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03Wiki: SoylentNews Policy Document
[02:45:44] * Bytram opens in browser
[02:46:28] <Bytram> mrcoolbp++ # nicely done!
[02:46:28] <Bender> karma - mrcoolbp: 61
[02:46:29] * mrcoolbp removes his note about splitting the pages
[02:46:32] * mrcoolbp winks
[02:46:49] * Bytram ignores thought of splitting hairs
[02:47:17] * Bytram *is* hungry, though, and considers splitting hares ;)
[02:48:11] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: the staff policy doc points to "user-facing policy" which does not exist? http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:48:23] <mrcoolbp> reload = )
[02:48:33] <Bytram> MAN you're quick!
[02:48:33] <mrcoolbp> just caught that
[02:48:41] <mrcoolbp> = )
[02:49:06] <Bytram> better!
[02:49:08] <mrcoolbp> still a lot of work to be done mostly on the user-facing section
[02:49:29] <mrcoolbp> I'm not sure if it's to verbose, or not enough = /
[02:50:04] <Bytram> An observation based on experience, whenever I perform an action, the result should confirm the action. IOW, a link to "user-facing policy" should bring me to doc with that as its title.
[02:50:52] <Bytram> so it would be good to either change the title of the destination doc, or change the link text which points to it.
[02:50:58] <mrcoolbp> aye
[02:51:24] <Bytram> hmm, an aye for an aye?
[02:51:25] <mrcoolbp> I'm not sure what the SN Policy Document should be called yet
[02:51:28] <mrcoolbp> lol
[02:51:29] <ciri> hehehe
[02:51:31] -!- Subsentient [Subsentient!~WhiteRat@172.56.xz.pto] has joined #Soylent
[02:51:39] <mrcoolbp> hey Subsentient
[02:51:40] <Bytram> Subsentient: g'day, matey!
[02:52:10] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: /me ponders what to call it, too.
[02:52:25] * Subsentient gurgles
[02:52:35] <mrcoolbp> bytram: we should look to organizations we admire in these matters maybe?
[02:52:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:53:02] * Subsentient is still in that damn motel
[02:53:09] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: I'm just a guy at a computer, i know some stuff, but this is legal shit, yaknow?
[02:53:16] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: still?
[02:53:34] <juggs> Bytram, how many times in your QA career have you heard "~sigh~ you're right, let me fix that"?
[02:53:37] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: how about: "SoylentNews Site Policy Document"
[02:53:53] <mrcoolbp> del: "document" and you have a deal
[02:54:00] <Bytram> juggs: not as many as I'd like
[02:54:08] <mrcoolbp> rofl
[02:54:09] <ciri> :D
[02:54:37] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: how about "SoylentNews Site Policy"
[02:54:59] <juggs> sadly underrated occupation.
[02:55:55] <Bytram> I look at it this way: My job is to point out shortcomings and implications. If they 'get it' and fix it right off, great! If not, I'll tell them again (maybe they didn't understand). If I feel strongly about something, I'll mention it again. After that, they know about it and they've made their decision. The rest is on them. And, on occasion, I find I'm mistaken, and I can accept that, too
[02:57:13] <Bytram> juggs: QA and Test often require skills above and beyond what the dev's need - I need to know it at least as well as they do, AND be mindful of all the possible implcations and interactions.
[02:57:39] * mrcoolbp thinks the "document" part is un-necessary
[02:58:21] <Bytram> They are just trying to find even a single path to accomplish the functionality; I stop at every conditional, look both ways, and wonder what could go wrong, here.
[02:58:31] * Bytram concurs with mrcoolbp
[02:58:35] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: yeah we seem to be able to scrape enough to stay another week at the motel but no idea after that
[02:58:49] * mrcoolbp works on that
[02:58:51] <Bytram> Subsentient: are you in the US?
[02:59:01] <Subsentient> Yes.
[02:59:04] <juggs> Interesting perspective Bytram. I tend to go nuclear when I think people are not listening rather than walk away.
[02:59:47] <juggs> Subsentient, kickstart Epoch.
[02:59:49] <Bytram> many cities have programs to help the homeless, and even more so, to help people from becoming homeless... check with your 'welfare' (or whatever it's called; Public Assistance) and see if they can help.
[03:00:21] <Bytram> also, churches and the like might be able to help, too.
[03:00:46] * Bytram many years ago availed himself of those
[03:01:21] <Bytram> when I got resituated, I was able to pay them back, and then some.
[03:02:26] <Bytram> juggs: The truth will win out -- I aim to win the war, not the battle. After a while, I earn their trust and they start paying *close* attention when I bring something up because they have been bit enough times exactly as I projected.
[03:03:15] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: what state?
[03:03:16] <Bytram> problem is, QA/Test is perceived as an expense that is to be minimized, rather than as an asset which minimizes costs down the road.
[03:03:29] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Arizona
[03:03:38] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: that's far from me = (
[03:03:51] <Bytram> from the sounds of things, I would *love* to work at SpaceX -- it seems from the outside, at least, that they are big on doing things the *right* way!
[03:04:07] <Bytram> Subsentient: and from me, too.
[03:04:18] <mrcoolbp> indeed Bytram: they are doing some awesome stuff
[03:04:34] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: hang in there, let us know if there
[03:04:39] <mrcoolbp> is anything we can do
[03:04:52] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Fat wad of cash?
[03:05:01] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: not likely
[03:05:01] <Bytram> the best thing he cold do for our industry is to write up a whitepaper on how QA/Test has a positive impact on their bottom line.
[03:05:36] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: page was moved to: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[03:05:44] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: all links to that page should be updated
[03:06:04] <mrcoolbp> but it still needs some work = )
[03:06:04] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: I'll settle for a bagel and half a roll of cottonelle toilet paper.
[03:06:17] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: I can swing that
[03:06:24] <Subsentient> hehe
[03:06:30] * mrcoolbp was serious
[03:06:34] * Subsentient is kidding, he's not *that* broke
[03:06:52] <juggs> As a non-US person, I picture Arizona as full of cactus, cattle skulls and very hot.
[03:07:01] * Subsentient doesn't have enough to pay ANY apartment's rent until next month
[03:07:03] <mrcoolbp> juggs: that sounds right
[03:07:18] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: it's much better! I wonder about the last section, though, "Site Control and Security" doesn't quite seem to have the right fit with the rest of the document
[03:07:18] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: are you working on an income-stream?
[03:07:30] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: lemme look
[03:07:46] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Despite my work on Epoch and whatnot, I'm legally disabled from the OCD. I get $700 a month.
[03:07:53] <mrcoolbp> bytram: I think some of that belongs in the staff policy section maybe
[03:08:00] <Bytram> agreed
[03:08:07] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: epoch?
[03:08:20] <juggs> linux init system
[03:08:38] <mrcoolbp> bytram: i'm not doing any more edting tonight, I'm completley burnt after a 12 hour day at work etc.
[03:08:51] <Bytram> {{{{ mrcoolbp }}}}
[03:08:54] <mrcoolbp> bytram: make notes for me later if possible (later = tomorrow)
[03:09:03] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: How DARE you call yourself one of my worshipers without knowing of my great works!
[03:09:04] <mrcoolbp> bytram: thanks, I'm good though!
[03:09:10] * Bytram is pretty well wiped, as well.
[03:09:15] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
[03:09:20] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: I don't remember doing that but, uh, sorry?
[03:09:24] * mrcoolbp looks
[03:09:41] * Bytram is gonna try one more test on dev and then call it a night.
[03:09:42] * Subsentient notes that Epoch's documentation is the only thing available until he gets his real servers out of storag
[03:10:01] * juggs is sad
[03:10:08] <Bytram> Subsentient: is it not hosted on Github or something like that?
[03:10:18] <Subsentient> Bytram: that too
[03:10:22] <mrcoolbp> subsentient: oh that's cool, fuck systemd?
[03:10:28] <Subsentient> https://github.com
[03:10:30] * mrcoolbp is not a linux user
[03:10:30] <Subsentient> oops
[03:10:34] <Bytram> Subsentient: that's good to hear!
[03:10:35] <Subsentient> https://github.com **
[03:10:49] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Yeah pretty much
[03:10:54] <mrcoolbp> yay
[03:11:01] * mrcoolbp knows stuff about linux
[03:11:03] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[03:11:05] <Subsentient> juggs:
[03:11:11] <juggs> ?
[03:11:14] <mrcoolbp> heh
[03:12:02] <Subsentient> juggs: Phoenix is extremely hot.
[03:12:08] <mrcoolbp> juggs: it's a cartoon by Mike Judge (creator of Beavis and Butthead, and pretty funny/smart guy for making stupid animation stuff)
[03:12:23] <mrcoolbp> juggs: and it was relavent to the Arizona discussion
[03:12:35] <Subsentient> Phoenix is the capital of Arizona
[03:12:58] <Subsentient> Fitting name, considering Phoenix's are birds caught on fire.
[03:13:40] <Bytram> and that rose from the ashes
[03:13:47] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: I know basically nothing about linux, but based on all the hate for systemd, I'm curious if you have contacted any of the bigger distros regarding epoch
[03:13:49] <Subsentient> and then catches fire again
[03:13:57] <juggs> I have an old school friend that is existing in Phoenix doing bug extermination.
[03:14:21] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'm guession you mean RL bugs and not software = )
[03:14:35] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: yeah Gentoo and a couple others already support Epoch. I think even Arch has packages, not sure what for, considering they are systemd and all.
[03:14:56] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: that's pretty cool man
[03:14:59] <juggs> yah - creepy - crawlies ... those guys that tent a house an poison it.
[03:15:05] * Subsentient is running on an Epoch based system right now
[03:15:16] <mrcoolbp> obvi
[03:15:18] <mrcoolbp> = )
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[03:15:47] <mrcoolbp> I'm going to have to retire for the night soon
[03:16:06] <mrcoolbp> not much more productive stuff I can do around here tonight
[03:16:08] * juggs retires sooner, just for sanity's sake
[03:16:14] * mrcoolbp checks the submissions real quick
[03:16:52] <mrcoolbp> oh theres a few more dollars floating around in cyberspace, guess I can update the meter
[03:19:53] <mrcoolbp> juggs: we are just over $1K from our goal, under 30% with almost 2 months to go
[03:20:45] <Subsentient> BTW I'm looking for a very small ARM Linux distro with an included compiler toolchain. 300MB for extracted root FS is too heavy.
[03:21:17] <Subsentient> I was trying ttylinux's beaglebone distro but my phone's 3.4 kernel is too old to run that userland.
[03:21:17] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: have you submitted a story about epoch to mainpage?
[03:21:29] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Actually multiple times, all of them accepted
[03:21:30] <Bytram> Subsentient: Have you tried puppy linux? or DSL: Damn Small Linux?
[03:21:54] <mrcoolbp> subsentient: my apologies then, like I said, I'm a linux n00b
[03:21:54] * Bytram has no personal exp with them
[03:22:15] <Subsentient> Bytram: those are for x86. I mean ARM.
[03:22:26] <Bytram> oh. :(
[03:25:01] <Subsentient> I only have a 2GB SD card or I'd just use Fedora for ARM.
[03:25:12] * Subsentient likes Fedora, other than the systemd BS
[03:25:48] <mrcoolbp> okay, I'm becoming useless to you lot, so gonna say "g'night" to Subsentient, juggs, Bytram, cromas, mytherj, and anyone else that's still around
[03:25:53] <Bytram> will the phone (I assume) accept a larger card?
[03:26:15] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: g'night, buddy! Sleep well! (and fast! =)
[03:26:21] <chromas> night mrbp
[03:26:32] <mrcoolbp> you too bros and bro-ettes
[03:26:52] <Bytram> would barbie's pal be bro-ken?
[03:27:25] <chromas> yeah; 'cause he's been married
[03:27:32] <chromas> that's why there's nothing down there
[03:27:44] <Bytram> lol!
[03:27:49] <Subsentient> Bytram: yes but I'm too broke to waste the $20 on a bigger card
[03:27:50] <Bytram> and with that,
[03:28:27] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: lastly: I'm going to link to the new Site Policy page from your main article
[03:28:50] <Bytram> Subsentient: I thought as much, but wanted to make sure it was not a technical limitation... is it an SD card, or micoSD?
[03:28:57] <Bytram> s/mic/micr/
[03:28:58] <sedctl> <Bytram> Subsentient: I thought as much, but wanted to make sure it was not a technical limitation... is it an SD card, or microSD?
[03:29:03] <Subsentient> microsd
[03:29:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:30:06] <Bytram> maybe an acquaintance has an unused phone that they'd give you and you could get the microSD card from it?
[03:30:34] * Bytram got an android phone from a friend of a friend for free
[03:31:21] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $3,179 to $3,231
[03:31:29] <Bytram> nice!
[03:31:38] <mrcoolbp> = )
[03:31:43] * Bytram has an early day tomorrow; gonna call it a night.
[03:31:54] * mrcoolbp gets sucked into a nexus
[03:31:55] <Bytram> g'night all; have a good one (or more)!
[03:32:01] <mrcoolbp> g'night
[03:32:25] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: that sounds like the title of a Sci-Fi Story or a very bad bar joke
[03:32:49] <mrcoolbp> o_0
[03:33:26] <Bytram> Subsentient: wish there was something I could do to help you out... will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Let me know if check out what services your city offers and how that works out for you.
[03:33:36] <Bytram> ok, gtg. g'night all!
[04:03:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Semi-Autonomous Truck Approved in Nevada - http://sylnt.us - killer-robot-trucks
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[07:19:17] <crutchy> ++coffee
[07:19:17] <dogpipe> Karma - coffee: 262
[07:19:17] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:19:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1356
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[09:42:25] <SirFinkus> whoever is in charge of this sort of thing "Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page)" on the page you get when you post, shouldn't that have a bit about the spam mod? I thought those got deleted outright if there were enough of them.
[09:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, nothing special about spam except the big karma hit.
[09:52:21] <SirFinkus> oh, nevermind then
[09:52:32] * SirFinkus is a stupe
[09:52:38] * SirFinkus should rtfm
[09:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> well and getting banned from moderating for abusing it
[09:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima dick off today. boot winders and whoop some baddies
[09:55:09] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[09:59:19] <SirFinkus> have fun
[11:08:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 25 Percent of Cars Cause 90 Percent of Air Pollution - http://sylnt.us - commons-sense
[11:36:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> Submissions queue down in single digits again. Guess I'd better submit some stuff...
[11:38:12] <crutchy> ~queue
[11:38:17] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 8 - http://sylnt.us
[11:40:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~queue
[11:40:30] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 9 - http://sylnt.us
[11:50:11] <crutchy> ~last channel=# message=Gasseous
[11:50:29] <exec> 03[2015-05-08 01:46:1] # <exec> ciri: epoch is sisters Gasseous services manager
[11:51:56] <CoolHand> thansk for the submit AndyTheAbsurd
[11:52:06] <CoolHand> we need to build up for the w/e..
[11:52:27] <CoolHand> and thanks for the 2nd submission too :)
[11:52:31] <crutchy> there's something building up in my anal passage
[11:52:46] <CoolHand> lolz crutchy
[11:53:24] <CoolHand> crutchy: what do you think it might be? a wad of cash? shuriken?
[11:54:07] <crutchy> probably my gasseous services manager
[11:55:06] <crutchy> must be about bed time on a friday night after a shitty long week of work :p
[11:55:37] <CoolHand> hah!
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[13:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> from the pew-pew-pew dept
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[13:11:35] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[13:15:49] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: good afternoon to you, carbouy still bubbling?
[13:15:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> like a boss
[13:16:14] <janrinok> good, did you get any fishing in yesterday?
[13:16:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly will for another 7-14 days.
[13:16:41] <janrinok> sounds like things are looking good for you
[13:17:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, well, i practiced anyway. got a 5-6lb catfish all the way in to the shore then it snapped my line.
[13:23:30] <janrinok> them damned catfish - that's just not playing the game
[13:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, bout to restring my reel with either 15 or 20lb line i think.
[13:26:11] <janrinok> ... or a length of rope ;)
[13:38:32] <SirFinkus> just use dynamite
[13:38:54] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus, a foolproof suggestion as ever :)
[13:38:54] <ciri> hi there janrinok
[13:39:25] <SirFinkus> don't mess with success
[13:40:08] <SirFinkus> oh look, it's ciri
[13:40:31] <SirFinkus> what a privilege to be in ciri's presence!
[13:40:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> an idea with merit but being as the game wardens have an office within rock-throwing distance of the lake i fish, not a workable one.
[13:40:56] <janrinok> he's blocked on my system - don't need him, don't hear him
[13:44:24] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[13:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> 750ml wine bottles come in cases of 12 but it takes 25 bottles for a 5gal carboy of hooch.
[13:46:17] <SirFinkus> today is a good day booze wise for me, because hoptimum is finally available in my area
[13:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> congrats
[13:47:15] <SirFinkus> expect more [] vs <> errors and typos in the near future
[13:52:15] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> may put some wee bit of regex in to un-fuck them later
[13:58:39] <SirFinkus> well, the formatting guide doesn't say that works anyway, so my brain/fingers were the only thing fucked
[13:58:48] <SirFinkus> I've seen a few other people do it though
[14:04:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> could put some javascript in to detect it being done and mock the luser...
[14:10:18] <SirFinkus> a good <user> didn't RTFM would be kind of funny
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[19:35:29] <CoolHand> so, PC-BSD release a new version of Lumina desktop.. http://www.phoronix.com
[19:35:30] <dogpipe> ^ 03PC-BSD Works Out Big Improvements For Its Lumina Desktop - Phoronix
[19:36:08] <CoolHand> I happen to personally know the package maintainer/port for Arch Linux.. Maybe I should do that first "weekly look at OSS software" on this...
[19:36:22] <CoolHand> *package maintainer/porter
[20:28:21] <arti> for lumia?
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[21:16:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Death to C - http://sylnt.us - off-with-its-head
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[21:27:38] <cmn32480> I f**king hate computers
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[22:32:04] <Landon> it's friiida
[22:32:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Aw hell yeah.
[22:33:46] <Ethanol-fueled> The production floor at work is like a ghost town.
[22:33:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Crickets everywhere.
[22:34:01] <Ethanol-fueled> *crosses fingers* lay-offs! lay-offs!
[22:36:59] * Ethanol-fueled goes off to mod up some anti-groupthink devils' advocates.
[22:43:04] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha @ the submission queue
[22:45:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, one submitted article in it, at least. What a macabre sense of humor!
[22:46:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Almost as bad a troll article as the "C is dead" one just posted.
[22:48:53] <chromas> ooh and a pro-systemd article
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[23:20:03] <crutchy> ~queue
[23:20:06] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 12 - http://sylnt.us
[23:21:12] <Ethanol-fueled> sup fellas.
[23:21:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Feelin good, buzzed, and it's raining here.
[23:21:30] <Ethanol-fueled> ~weather
[23:21:32] <exec> 03San Diego, CA, USA - currently 62°F / 17°C, cloudy, wind SW at 7 mph, humidity 63% - Friday scattered showers (58°F-61°F / 14°C-16°C), Saturday partly cloudy (57°F-65°F / 14°C-18°C), Sunday partly cloudy (59°F-68°F / 15°C-20°C), Monday mostly sunny (59°F-69°F / 15°C-21°C)
[23:25:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Feels good man
[23:29:25] <crutchy> http://www.bostonglobe.com
[23:29:26] <dogpipe> ^ 03Harvard class cooks up the ultimate BBQ smoker - Metro - The Boston Globe
[23:29:35] <crutchy> hehe. engineering is awesome :p
[23:32:36] <Ethanol-fueled> > Brisket
[23:32:41] <Ethanol-fueled> A jew cut of meat.
[23:33:07] <chromas> it's soft, so it doesn't irritate their delicate gums
[23:33:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Control theory with solutions of second-order differential equations or get the fuck off.
[23:33:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Bonus points for those involving heat.
[23:35:56] <crutchy> pfft. matlab eats de's for breakfast. nobody solves them manually any more
[23:37:02] <Ethanol-fueled> The point I was trying to make was, I wanted to see a more technical description of the barbecue problem.
[23:37:13] <crutchy> ah
[23:37:30] <crutchy> prolly will have to wait for the paper i guess
[23:38:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, that's what I was asking for.
[23:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> And what greater challenge than brisket? Compared to the other meat cuts it's a long-term relationship.
[23:39:11] <crutchy> though if its an undergrad thesis it will prolly be pretty shit
[23:40:26] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the morons have to be offered an opportunity. "Okay, I don't know differential equations, but I can solve a delicious combination of Calc II and statistics"
[23:41:03] * Ethanol-fueled is glad he can be a moron openly to graduate
[23:41:57] <crutchy> ugrad theses are all about fooling your supervisor into giving you a good grade
[23:42:31] * Ethanol-fueled recoils in horror.
[23:42:36] <Ethanol-fueled> undergrad thesis?
[23:42:47] <crutchy> oops did i admit that out loud?
[23:45:11] * Ethanol-fueled suspects his "undergrad thesis" is going to be LaDarius operating from a directed graph with crude semantic rules
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[23:48:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Well fuckit.
[23:50:36] <chromas> crude semetic rules
[23:51:05] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a good point, chromas. what are good semitic programming rules?
[23:51:14] * chromas kills a bird, rubs another bird in its blood, then sprinkles it on himself
[23:51:44] <Ethanol-fueled> #ifnef jew
[23:51:49] <Ethanol-fueled> #define jew
[23:52:24] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[23:52:25] <dogpipe> ^ 03David Cameron Basks in Victory, While New Tests Await on Scotland, Europe - WSJ
[23:52:29] <chromas> See you do that and they'll think it's a real human. They'll get the Heebie jeebies
[23:53:01] <crutchy> how the fuck did scottish national party come third when both lib dems and ukip beat them in votes? wtf?!
[23:53:40] <chromas> Makes sense. If 1 and 2 beat them, then it has to be at least 3
[23:53:48] <crutchy> and i get the feeling wsj really doesn't like conservatives much lol
[23:54:02] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, status quo again huh?
[23:54:28] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas - ENJOY THAT MULTICULTURALISM.
[23:54:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahahahahahahaahh!
[23:54:53] <crutchy> conservatives and labour came 1st and 2nd. apparently the party with 12.64% of votes doesn't deserve as many seats as a party with 4.74% of votes
[23:55:36] <crutchy> ukip will keep shitting all over the rest of british politics, cos britains hate europe
[23:57:30] <Ethanol-fueled> GO UKIP!
[23:58:01] * crutchy likes watching nigel verbally ass rape the crooks in euro parliament :D
[23:58:02] <Ethanol-fueled> If only America had their equivalent of UKIP.
[23:58:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Rand Paul is the closest viable equivalent to Nigel Farage. \
[23:58:54] <Ethanol-fueled> But of course American politics will give it up to some establishment stooge.
[23:59:12] <crutchy> i think so too. he needs to learn how to verbally ass rape congress like nigel
[23:59:24] <crutchy> image nigel in congress lol
[23:59:27] <Ethanol-fueled> We just like our gimmicks. First it was a black man, then it will be a woman.