#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-17

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[00:00:01] <crutchy> capitalism was around long before 'capital markets'
[00:00:26] <n1> indeed
[00:00:41] <SirFinkus> speaking of capitalism, I just made a purchase!
[00:01:02] <crutchy> omg you are engaging in capitalism! police! arrest this infidel! terrrrrist!!!!
[00:01:18] <SirFinkus> http://www.amazon.com
[00:01:20] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Amazon.com: AKG Q 701 Quincy Jones Signature Reference-Class Premium Headphones - Black: Electronics
[00:01:39] <crutchy> noice
[00:01:51] * SirFinkus hopes they are as good as the reviews imply
[00:02:04] <n1> thats some fancy headphoens
[00:02:06] <crutchy> dunno if i could justify $200 for a pair of headphones, but they prolly decent
[00:02:06] <n1> headphones
[00:02:07] <SirFinkus> my grado 60is are on their last legs
[00:02:32] <crutchy> ~convert 200 usd aud
[00:02:33] <exec> 03200 USD = 248.8400 AUD
[00:02:40] <SirFinkus> I love them, but I've taken out the soldering iron, the heat gun, and the hot glue gun far too many times
[00:02:59] <n1> it's nice how amazon.co.uk wants £268 for them
[00:03:15] <SirFinkus> the k701s are nearly the same thing and cheaper in europe
[00:03:15] <crutchy> ~covert 200 usd bp
[00:03:27] <n1> ~convert 268 gbp usd
[00:03:28] <exec> 03268 GBP = 421.4032 USD
[00:03:31] <SirFinkus> or so I've heard
[00:03:32] <crutchy> oh
[00:03:40] <crutchy> wow
[00:03:43] <SirFinkus> try akg k701
[00:04:08] <n1> not on amazon.co.uk heh
[00:04:09] <n1> "This product is not currently offered by Amazon.co.uk because a customer recently told us that the item he or she received was not as described."
[00:04:33] <n1> but yeah, they're about elsewhere cheaper
[00:04:33] <SirFinkus> oh shit, countnerfiets!
[00:04:37] <SirFinkus> more capitalism!
[00:04:48] <n1> juno.co.uk is selling them for 144 which seems fair in comparison
[00:05:02] <crutchy> just cos everything is made in china doesn't mean that chinese stuff isn't fake!
[00:05:03] <n1> retail price supposedly of 330
[00:05:10] * SirFinkus is listening to Stoned Jesus — Stormy Monday, from the album Seven Thunders Roar
[00:05:13] <SirFinkus> on my grados
[00:05:21] <SirFinkus> yeah, but these are like watches
[00:05:24] <SirFinkus> and other things
[00:05:34] <SirFinkus> absurd msrp, but always available cheaper
[00:05:36] <n1> i just need a bose soundlink, i dont care if other people dont like listening to my music :D
[00:05:54] <crutchy> bose is for chicks
[00:05:57] <SirFinkus> bose is overpriced
[00:06:07] <n1> i would normally agree
[00:06:12] <SirFinkus> decent sound quality usually, but you can get better for cheaper
[00:06:14] <n1> but i was really impressed by the soundlink
[00:06:28] <n1> it's the only bose thing i really care for
[00:06:30] <crutchy> actually they make decent bass from a small enclosure, but that's a chick thing too :p
[00:06:43] <n1> although i wouldn't be sad if i got a bose stereo system in an audi.
[00:06:51] <crutchy> real men require a separate room just for their subwoofers :D
[00:06:55] <n1> well yeah
[00:06:59] <n1> but thats not practical on the road
[00:07:00] <n1> or at work
[00:07:17] <SirFinkus> Isn't that what the trunk is for?
[00:07:22] <SirFinkus> get a tesla, it has a frunk too
[00:07:26] <SirFinkus> for stereo
[00:07:27] <n1> yeah well, you havn't seen my trunk
[00:07:46] <n1> underneath the cable, power tool boxes and regular tool boxes and other shit
[00:07:47] <crutchy> i saw a video of the audi bose system. its like a 10,000 dollar extra or summin
[00:07:50] <n1> there's a spare wheel somewhere
[00:07:55] <crutchy> little speakers that pop up out of the dash
[00:08:03] * SirFinkus thinks it might be a good thing he hasn't seen n1's trunk
[00:08:06] <n1> not all of them are
[00:08:41] <crutchy> SirFinkus, n1 could be a chick for all we know. this is the internets
[00:08:44] <SirFinkus> I'd never do serious audio over bluetooth though
[00:08:51] <crutchy> actually this is the internets. course he's a guy
[00:09:02] <SirFinkus> his name is nick
[00:09:06] <crutchy> chicks don't use the internets
[00:09:07] <SirFinkus> so I'd wager "no"
[00:09:10] <n1> aww, i was hoping for an opportunity to shake my booty :(
[00:09:21] <crutchy> they only use facebook, which isn't the internets
[00:09:33] <SirFinkus> I was under the impression we chased off the token female
[00:09:44] <crutchy> she's still about
[00:09:53] <crutchy> ~last nick =konomi channel =
[00:09:58] <SirFinkus> oh shit
[00:10:00] * SirFinkus runs
[00:10:05] <SirFinkus> eww, a girl
[00:10:07] <exec> 03[2015-05-16 07:35:0] #boxedfox <FluffyCatBot> Google
[00:10:16] <crutchy> derp. that's her bot
[00:10:29] <chromas> ~last nick=konomi! channel=
[00:10:35] <crutchy> ah
[00:10:36] <exec> 03[2015-05-15 06:31:1] #boxedfox <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[00:10:41] <crutchy> chromas++ # saves the day
[00:10:41] <Bender> karma - chromas: 107
[00:11:40] <crutchy> fek. cosurgi is hammering out the code
[00:12:04] <n1> gewg is not happy that e-f submitted that bathhouse story in his name.
[00:12:14] <crutchy> lol
[00:12:15] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[00:12:38] <crutchy> you're supposed to say 'now that IS funny!' ciri
[00:13:21] <crutchy> must admit the story attribution on SN is a bit squiff
[00:13:35] <n1> now what would be good
[00:13:42] <n1> if that gewg submission is also from e-f
[00:13:50] <crutchy> one of my submissions was ad-libbed by an editor in a way that i would never have said
[00:14:03] <n1> how do you mean
[00:14:04] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[00:14:10] <n1> stfu ciri
[00:14:15] <n1> oh how i've missed that
[00:14:36] <crutchy> it was ages ago. no biggie, but the comments were all about the ad libbed part instead of the content that i actually submitted
[00:15:00] <crutchy> cos it was attributed to be, the comments were directed at me, even though the ad lib wasn't mine
[00:15:04] <crutchy> *to me
[00:15:21] <n1> ok, i understand
[00:15:35] <n1> i would assume that wasnt the intention
[00:15:43] <crutchy> i didn't really care
[00:15:54] <crutchy> but attribution can be a minefield
[00:15:56] <n1> dont go out of our way to change anything, especially the context but i can see why it could be frustrating
[00:16:14] <crutchy> i tend to submit anon now
[00:16:31] <n1> we reserve the right to change the submissions in any way we see fit, but we really dont want to
[00:16:33] <n1> i certainly dont
[00:16:33] <crutchy> nuthin against you guys. more the idiot commenters :p
[00:17:02] <n1> i'm bracing for tomorrow, got a few stories to come up and i'll have dropped the ball on a couple of them no doubt
[00:17:14] <crutchy> 'dropped the ball'?
[00:17:32] <n1> fucked up, changed something wrong
[00:17:38] <n1> put up a dupe
[00:18:04] <crutchy> oh. wouldn't worry too much. if that sort of crap is the peak of concern there's not much to be concerned about :p
[00:18:33] <crutchy> we have a few grammar nazis though eh :p
[00:18:35] <n1> oh yeah i know, but after being gone for a while, i just expect on my return to be greeted with a "well this story doesnt belong here"
[00:18:39] <n1> "who edited this pile of shit?"
[00:18:43] <crutchy> lol
[00:19:06] <n1> wow, it will be actually 2 months to the day since the last story i edited
[00:19:35] <crutchy> sometimes i reply to those sorts of comments with something like "well i don't see you putting up your hand to do better"
[00:19:49] <crutchy> sometimes in not so nicer language
[00:19:54] <n1> if i wasn't an editor, i'd probably do that too sometimes
[00:21:08] <crutchy> http://www.nytimes.com
[00:21:10] <Manbearpig> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[00:21:10] <n1> i'm sure everyones been missing their installments of 'n1's Editorial Transparency'
[00:21:17] <crutchy> derp
[00:21:20] <crutchy> ~title http://www.nytimes.com
[00:21:28] <exec> 13Log In - The New York Times [ 03https://myaccount.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2015%2F05%2F17%2Fus%2Fprojectile-problem-goes-beyond-amtrak-train-and-philadelphia.html%3F_r%3D5&REFUSE_COOKIE_ERROR=SHOW_ERROR ]
[00:21:33] <crutchy> feck
[00:21:43] <crutchy> nyt--
[00:21:43] <Bender> karma - nyt: -1
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[00:22:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking awesoem song.
[00:22:03] <n1> back from the bathhouse so soon?
[00:22:03] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[00:22:05] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Nintendo - Lifeforce - Stage 2 - YouTube
[00:22:17] <n1> you must learn to edge it
[00:22:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[00:22:41] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[00:23:12] <crutchy> they call him 'hoover' and not cos he looks like j. edgar
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[00:29:10] <crutchy> "Is it possible for an Engine to be hacked? Could the projectile have been to distract the engineer as the hacker increased the speed of the train. Far fetched I know, but a good plot line"
[00:29:27] <n1> ...
[00:29:42] <n1> 'a good plot line'?
[00:29:46] <SirFinkus> I actually remember reading about something like that on a plane
[00:30:18] <n1> if someone is going to the effort of using a 'projectile' they might as well just use one
[00:30:34] <n1> rather than use it as a 'diversion'
[00:30:37] <crutchy> its a comment on the story i linked
[00:30:52] <n1> and in my opinion, it's a stupid comment :p
[00:30:55] <crutchy> the only comment that isn't full of the usual drivel you see in nyt comments
[00:30:56] <SirFinkus> http://nymag.com
[00:30:58] <Manbearpig> ^ 03How Crazy Am I to Think I Know Where MH370 Is? -- NYMag
[00:30:59] <SirFinkus> kind of a fun read
[00:31:12] <n1> dont think ive ever really read nyt comments section
[00:31:17] <crutchy> hacking of trains is intriguing at least
[00:31:23] <SirFinkus> they guy proposes that they broke into the E/E bay
[00:31:28] <SirFinkus> and controlled the plane from there
[00:31:33] <SirFinkus> which is theoretically possible
[00:32:03] <n1> there's a case for hijacking and hacking, but the projectile just seems like a waste of time if you're doing that
[00:32:06] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:32:08] <Manbearpig> ^ 03777 E/E Bay - YouTube
[00:32:09] <SirFinkus> neat video
[00:32:14] <crutchy> someone could sneak a radio/gsm controller into any electronically controlled device and take control of it i guess
[00:32:48] <crutchy> n1, yeah i dunno about the projectile thing. i was more interested in the hacking angle
[00:33:07] <n1> mhm
[00:33:11] <SirFinkus> good part starts 1 minute in
[00:33:36] <crutchy> the projectile thing was initially interesting, but when i read the article (after linking it unfortunately :p) i was disappointed
[00:33:49] <crutchy> we have to link an article to find out what's in it :D
[00:33:55] <n1> oh indeed
[00:34:05] <n1> and if we all read the articles properly
[00:34:11] <n1> they'd go out of business, because we'd stop reading the shit
[00:34:16] <crutchy> lol true that
[00:34:52] <n1> SirFinkus, intresting vid so far
[00:34:55] <SirFinkus> hmm, just had a thought
[00:34:56] <crutchy> oh woops. actually the comment was from a wsj article (similar)
[00:35:21] <SirFinkus> I may betray a massive lapse in physics knowledge here, but w/e
[00:35:30] <SirFinkus> how to planes discharge static electricity?
[00:35:32] <ciri> don't ask me!
[00:35:44] <SirFinkus> I'd imagine they'd build up quite a bit
[00:35:59] <crutchy> the little sticks on the trailing edges
[00:36:27] <crutchy> http://www.flyingfear.net
[00:36:37] <SirFinkus> ahh, so that's what those are for
[00:36:59] <crutchy> but aircraft are certified to survive direct lightning strikes too
[00:37:11] <crutchy> (i've been involved in that directly)
[00:37:15] <n1> well, learned something today
[00:37:16] <SirFinkus> but the fact that it's actually a problem means my question wasn't completely retarded
[00:37:19] <n1> so thanks for that crutchy
[00:37:20] <SirFinkus> yay
[00:37:26] <crutchy> fuel tank certification is a bitch
[00:37:27] <SirFinkus> yeah, I knew about the lightning thing
[00:37:40] <n1> dont know how many planes ive been on, and how many times ive looked at those damn things
[00:37:48] <n1> and now i know!
[00:37:52] <SirFinkus> but that's a different problem, since I'd imagine that's discharged when it hits the ground
[00:38:18] <SirFinkus> all the strikes I've seen on youtube continue to the ground
[00:39:08] * SirFinkus wonders if the charge could be somehow accumulated on the sticks, then discharged at a later time in one burst
[00:39:30] <SirFinkus> imagine: a plane that could shoot lightning!
[00:39:41] <SirFinkus> although I'm sure the amount of energy required would be absurd
[00:39:47] <SirFinkus> but a man can dream
[00:39:58] <crutchy> there's different components. been a while since i worked on that sort of stuff. lightning is more about ground planes and prevention of burn through and shielding of electronics
[00:40:22] <SirFinkus> could be an interesting sci-fi concept though, just make it IN SPACE
[00:40:30] <crutchy> apparently lightning has two strikes
[00:40:40] <crutchy> can't remember what they call the second
[00:40:43] <SirFinkus> ships fly through gas clouds to charge their weapons
[00:40:52] <crutchy> that's old hat
[00:40:57] <SirFinkus> oh is it?
[00:41:43] <SirFinkus> although I suppose the energy requirements for "flying through gas clouds" would make the amount of energy you'd gain from it trivial
[00:42:11] <crutchy> there's designs for using ion drives in satellites with tethers that drag through the ionosphere
[00:42:21] <crutchy> for charging
[00:42:38] <SirFinkus> it'd be kind of a fun game concept though
[00:42:49] <SirFinkus> an additional tactical element for space fighting
[00:42:50] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[00:42:51] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Wiki: Electrodynamic tether
[00:43:04] <crutchy> hmm ok maybe don't even need the ion drive
[00:43:10] <crutchy> the tether *is* the ion drive
[00:43:21] <SirFinkus> I wish a space game or movie would do sound correctly
[00:43:31] <SirFinkus> no sound in space, but that could be awesome
[00:43:38] <crutchy> 2001: space odyssee is the only movie i ever seen that did
[00:43:40] <SirFinkus> imagine a space shooter
[00:43:45] <crutchy> *odyseey
[00:43:48] <crutchy> feck
[00:43:52] <SirFinkus> all you hear is your craft
[00:44:04] <SirFinkus> machinery, the hissing of air
[00:44:20] <SirFinkus> sexy sounds like high speed pneumatics, and capacitors charging
[00:44:24] <crutchy> "mwahahahaha! bitches... i gots me a stealth spaceship!"
[00:44:38] <crutchy> "can't hear me for miles"
[00:44:39] <SirFinkus> the sound of your gun firing, which should make a terrific clang
[00:44:57] <SirFinkus> the only time you hear and explosion or the enemies shots are when they hit your ship
[00:45:06] <SirFinkus> imagine how pants shitting that would be
[00:45:28] <crutchy> assuming you were waering pants of course
[00:45:29] <SirFinkus> the sound of air escaping your ship as it becomes damaged
[00:45:37] <crutchy> we don't do pants here
[00:45:46] <crutchy> we don't accept their kind
[00:45:57] <SirFinkus> no, I'm saying you'd shit pants
[00:46:10] <crutchy> we even have separate bathrooms for pants
[00:47:06] <crutchy> us normal soylentils use the bathhouse
[00:47:08] <SirFinkus> it could be super powerful though
[00:47:51] <SirFinkus> an example of realistic sound adding a lot to gameplay is Arma
[00:48:17] <SirFinkus> there are two sounds when a gun fires: the gunpowder and the sonic boom by the round
[00:48:32] <SirFinkus> usually, the powder exploding is the only sound you hear
[00:48:36] <SirFinkus> unless you're being shot at
[00:48:51] <SirFinkus> then you'll hear a "crack" noise, followed by the sound of the firing
[00:49:26] <n1> arma ftw
[00:49:35] <SirFinkus> it adds a lot to the gameplay because when you start hearing the "cracks" you know you're in deep shit
[00:49:38] <crutchy> the j. edgar hoover bathhouse
[00:50:31] <SirFinkus> arma is the only game I know of that does it
[00:50:44] <n1> arma is about the only game i play now
[00:51:09] <n1> and i havn't been interested in that kind of game for a while
[00:51:30] <SirFinkus> arma really is the only game of its type
[00:51:33] <n1> i was talking to a friend about it, and said that it's not like battlefield or call of duty, and he said
[00:51:37] <n1> "it sounds like it is"
[00:51:40] <n1> i wanted to slap him.
[00:52:13] <n1> there's nothing like a 5k hike before getting an airstrike dropped on you
[00:52:33] <SirFinkus> I can't think of another game where you call in an air strike, and then some other person replies that he can do it and lights up the enemy 5 minutes later
[00:53:06] <n1> are you playing arma2 or 3?
[00:53:23] <SirFinkus> nothing like walking in the woods thinking all is peaceful then out of nowhere CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK
[00:53:42] <SirFinkus> 2, although I don't have a computer that can run it properly right now
[00:54:03] <n1> i only picked up 3 last week, it was on steam sale for £18
[00:54:09] <n1> but holy fuck, it runs so much better than arma2
[00:54:27] <n1> it's more stable on my laptop than arma2 is by quite a margin
[00:54:29] <SirFinkus> once I get some cash I'm going to build a computer for it specifically
[00:54:51] <n1> but they seem to have totally gone away from 'real' weapons and vehicles
[00:55:48] <SirFinkus> I'm not super peeved about that, since they seem to function similarly to the real things
[00:55:56] <SirFinkus> and seem realistic
[00:56:06] <n1> it's not a deal breaker, but it feels less complete
[00:56:24] <n1> and the dlc's for 3, which i dont have should have been part of the game
[00:56:29] <SirFinkus> I really wish arma 2 had more old weapons
[00:56:41] <n1> and are not as wortwhile as the PMC/ACR etc dlc's
[00:56:54] <SirFinkus> and better modeling for bolt action rifles
[00:57:16] <SirFinkus> like, an animation
[00:57:25] <SirFinkus> doesn't even need to be a good animation
[00:57:55] <SirFinkus> doesn't even need to show me working the bolt, the bolt can move on its own
[00:58:08] <n1> havn't really thought much about that
[00:58:17] <n1> games too stressful to be worried about that sort of stuff :p
[00:58:39] <SirFinkus> well, it sucks for bolt actions because you can't tell when it's ready to shoot again
[00:58:51] <SirFinkus> the lee enfield was also painfully slow
[00:59:03] <SirFinkus> in real life, it's MUCH faster
[00:59:04] <n1> only time i used a lee enfield was on dayz
[00:59:18] <n1> which was how i got introduced to arma anyways
[01:00:10] <n1> do you use the editor at all?
[01:00:57] <SirFinkus> a little bit
[01:02:05] <n1> i'd be up for playing a scenario you'd made if you have any to share
[01:02:14] <SirFinkus> naw, they were all pretty stupid shit
[01:02:26] <n1> thats the best kind lol
[01:02:27] <SirFinkus> I don't have a comp that can run the game now
[01:02:41] <n1> i liked spawning fighter jets for headon collisions
[01:02:46] <n1> it looks pretty
[01:03:25] <SirFinkus> I'll remember you when I get a computer together, we should definitely play sometime
[01:03:39] <SirFinkus> multiplayer is a lot more fun
[01:03:42] <n1> for sure, that would be cool
[01:04:16] <n1> i have a couple of friends i play it with
[01:04:40] <n1> i havnt actually played it online, except dayz
[01:04:48] <n1> play on lan though when i can
[01:05:10] <n1> i'd be up for online if it wasnt just jumping on a random server
[01:06:00] <n1> playing it on a laptop sucks though, xbox controller and keyboard, without a real mouse.
[01:06:34] <SirFinkus> some fuck just flew a drone in my backyard, hovered it for a second, and flew it off
[01:06:41] * SirFinkus wishes he had a shotgun
[01:07:07] <n1> some random jackass, not a .gov one?
[01:07:20] <SirFinkus> if it's a raid, It's been a pleasure serving with you all
[01:07:50] <n1> for a second there i thought you said servicing and we'd gone back to the bathhouse...
[01:08:12] <SirFinkus> when I go out in a blaze of glory, I hope soylentnews is mentioned
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[01:08:56] <n1> we told you not to...
[01:09:07] <n1> g'day SpallsHurgenson
[01:09:23] <SpallsHurgenson> g'afternoon n1
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[01:17:21] <paulej72> n1 long time no see
[01:23:15] <SirFinkus> oh, I'm plugging soylentnews to the wang guy
[01:23:24] <SirFinkus> gotta get those users!
[01:24:32] <SpallsHurgenson> wang guy? are we talking gay porn here or something else?
[01:25:10] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[01:25:11] <Manbearpig> ^ 03SN comment by [02Ethanol-fueled (2792)] (02Score:2, Funny)
[01:29:51] <n1> hey paulej72, it has been a while
[01:30:08] <n1> how have you been?
[01:30:08] <ciri> how how brown cow
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[01:51:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Suggitfuckers
[01:53:03] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH
[01:53:32] <SirFinkus> hey Ethanol-fueled
[01:53:50] <Ethanol-fueled> sup fink
[01:54:49] <SirFinkus> want to see a sculpture of the virgin marry that looks like a marital aid I found in my grandma's house?
[01:54:57] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah
[01:55:01] <Ethanol-fueled> mothafucka
[01:55:15] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:55:37] <chromas> Does it vibrate?
[01:56:14] <SirFinkus> you need the attachment (optional $14.99 upgrade)
[01:56:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck the angry nintendo nres
[01:56:36] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:56:37] <Manbearpig> ^ 03The Twinz - Round and Round - YouTube
[02:02:50] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:02:51] <Manbearpig> ^ 03How much is that doggy in the window ? - YouTube
[02:02:59] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHA
[02:03:43] <Ethanol-fueled> That movie has a CHICKENFUCKER in it.
[02:03:57] <Ethanol-fueled> RHUEEEEEGHHHHHHT!
[02:04:52] <SirFinkus> I watched that movie with my mom
[02:04:58] <SirFinkus> she didn't like it for some reason
[02:05:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, you Washingtonians are that sick and twisted.
[02:05:16] <crutchy> oops. i googled virgina
[02:05:32] <crutchy> meant 'virginia'
[02:05:57] <SirFinkus> I also watched Hentai Kamen with her
[02:06:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, did you rub her fuzzsnuzz?
[02:06:31] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:06:31] <Manbearpig> ^✓ 03Flairs - Truckers Delight (Official music video) - YouTube
[02:06:38] <SirFinkus> nope
[02:06:49] <Ethanol-fueled> She probably slapped you.
[02:07:09] <Ethanol-fueled> And shrieked as if you were some inebriate pervert slimedevil.
[02:08:13] <SirFinkus> no, in the case of pink flamingos I just claimed it was art
[02:08:37] <crutchy> this is kinda ironic for some reason: http://upload.wikimedia.org
[02:09:17] <crutchy> since virgina is now tyrant heartland
[02:09:37] <SirFinkus> well, the saying itself is ironic
[02:09:40] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck off crutchy.
[02:09:46] <SirFinkus> even disregarding the state
[02:09:51] <Ethanol-fueled> You don't know shit about AMerican scum.
[02:10:18] <crutchy> hehe
[02:10:18] <SirFinkus> since God is a tyrant by most definitions
[02:10:43] * chromas dashes babies' heads against a stone
[02:10:47] <chromas> God told me to
[02:10:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, those who acknowledge God's dominance are submissives.
[02:11:30] <crutchy> i also think thomas jefferson is often misquoted when he said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
[02:11:45] <crutchy> i think he meant tyrants as in the bad guys
[02:11:57] <crutchy> not that good guys must engage in tyranny
[02:12:07] <crutchy> he meant blood spilled on both sides
[02:12:10] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, perhaps you are a weenie.
[02:12:11] <SirFinkus> I've never heard it misused in that way
[02:12:12] <crutchy> (as in battle)
[02:12:13] <chromas> was there some other way to read it?
[02:12:53] <crutchy> timothy mcveigh used it in the wrong context
[02:13:02] <chromas> ~define timothy mcveigh
[02:13:04] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03timothy mcveigh: 1. The man who carried out the oklahoma state federal building bombings on April 19,1995 claiming 168 lives. 2. A person who is not that stable and has a huge amount of weapons and explosives and who...
[02:13:19] <chromas> Oh yeah that's a shock
[02:13:22] <crutchy> its often misused to equate tyranny with patriotism
[02:13:39] <SirFinkus> by who?
[02:13:49] <crutchy> prolly mostly republicans
[02:13:56] <crutchy> anarchists
[02:14:05] <crutchy> even libs
[02:14:17] <crutchy> most times its quoted is in the wrong context
[02:14:31] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK LIBERALS.
[02:14:41] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCKING NANCYBOYS.
[02:14:46] <chromas> "I think it was a like a mix between Lion King and Michael Jackson hanging his child out the window"
[02:14:56] <SirFinkus> typically, I've heard it used to justify violent action against those who violate civil liberties
[02:15:06] <crutchy> yeah
[02:15:13] <SirFinkus> or as a justification for the second amendment
[02:15:22] <crutchy> but as an excuse for violence
[02:15:41] <SirFinkus> violence is sometimes required
[02:15:49] <crutchy> also, the other thing that libs fuck up on is confusing militia and the army
[02:15:50] <SirFinkus> although generally, violent revolution doesn't work out
[02:15:57] <crutchy> yeah but not random violence
[02:16:35] <crutchy> they think 'regulated militia' implies government regulation
[02:16:46] <SirFinkus> the militia thing is usually an intentional fuck up
[02:17:01] <crutchy> prolly
[02:17:25] <crutchy> i was surprised how many militias there are in the US
[02:17:27] <SirFinkus> just like how the commerce clause is used to justify anything
[02:18:12] <crutchy> kinda not surprising that the DHS is buying up all that ammo and cops have amraps
[02:18:20] <crutchy> they are scared out of their wits
[02:18:27] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:18:28] <Manbearpig> ^ 03The Toxic Avenger 1984 mexican restaurant fight scene - YouTube
[02:19:05] <SirFinkus> I think that's more for economic reasons, we have tons of shit left because we're always at war
[02:19:55] <crutchy> i don't think so. mraps like the cops have are different to the things the army uses
[02:20:25] <crutchy> hmm. maybe they are
[02:20:37] <SirFinkus> it's hilarious, because mraps are designed to resist ieds
[02:20:39] * crutchy thought the army ones were a lot heavier
[02:20:44] <crutchy> yeah
[02:20:53] <SirFinkus> it's ridiculous for police to have them
[02:21:16] <crutchy> that's why i thought they were different. the army ones have huge heavy plate in the bottom
[02:21:23] <SirFinkus> when's the last time the police got ied'd?
[02:21:49] <SirFinkus> all the police stuff like that is military surplus
[02:21:55] <crutchy> i guess if the government keeps going pearshaped it might be the only way the populous has of fighting back (same as in afghanistan)
[02:22:00] <SirFinkus> they get them super cheap or free from the military
[02:22:09] <SirFinkus> as long as they can justify it to the feds
[02:22:30] <SirFinkus> hence the increase in "raids" for minor shit
[02:22:31] <juggs> They're military surplus aren't they? So either they get sold to the police, sold to private individuals or scrapped. Perhaps the answer is for the military no to keep buying more stuff than they need :)
[02:22:36] <crutchy> IED's are the only thing that scared the crap outta soldiers in mid-east
[02:22:47] <SirFinkus> somebody is making shittons of money off of all this
[02:23:03] <crutchy> ron paul calls it the military industrial complex
[02:23:18] <crutchy> though it extends to more than just military contractors
[02:23:38] <crutchy> even the fed wants the US gov to keep spending way beyond its means
[02:23:39] <SirFinkus> basically, the cops will roll up in a mrap to serve a search warrant on a non-violent drug offender just to justify more toys
[02:24:25] <SirFinkus> locally, the Seattle police department has drones for some reason
[02:24:58] <chromas> Gotta protect you from those hipster terrorists
[02:24:59] <SirFinkus> why the fuck a police department would need drones is beyond me
[02:25:09] <crutchy> eventually the police/military might find that places like texas are covered in IED's
[02:25:39] <crutchy> esp if they keep up the spook tactics
[02:25:56] <SirFinkus> you underestimate the amount of discontent required for that sort of thing
[02:26:11] <crutchy> paranoid rednecks with shittons of guns and explosives are a dangerous mix
[02:26:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck you you fucking weenies
[02:26:25] <Ethanol-fueled> You take up arms against the establishment\
[02:27:08] <SirFinkus> well, I haven't taken up arms
[02:27:08] <crutchy> it'll either happen by false flag or by some stupid accident (something like waco)
[02:27:12] <SirFinkus> I'm too much of a pussy
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[02:27:36] <Ethanol-fueled> BULLDHIT.
[02:27:49] <SirFinkus> lol waco
[02:27:49] <ciri> now that is funny
[02:27:52] <SirFinkus> nobody gives a shit
[02:28:12] <crutchy> someone did enough to blow up a federal building in oklahoma city :p
[02:28:27] <SirFinkus> that's one person
[02:28:33] <Ethanol-fueled> A false flag.
[02:28:47] <Ethanol-fueled> like every "terrorist" attack since then.
[02:28:48] <SirFinkus> pretty much "nobody"
[02:28:56] <crutchy> texas is full of crazies that hate the feds
[02:29:07] <Ethanol-fueled> bullshit, Texas are bootlickers.
[02:29:22] <Ethanol-fueled> They love control, specially FED control.
[02:29:39] <SirFinkus> "hate the feds" is lip service
[02:29:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Their cops will beat you like Rodney King and their population will support them for it.
[02:30:18] <crutchy> they keep voting tea party reps, so i doubt it
[02:30:54] <SirFinkus> I'll believe that when texas votes for a 3rd party instead of a republican
[02:31:01] <SirFinkus> for president
[02:31:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I am wasted.
[02:31:15] * SirFinkus is working on it
[02:31:20] <SirFinkus> #3
[02:32:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I am going to walk to the liquor store.
[02:32:28] <Ethanol-fueled> for MORE BOOZE
[02:34:35] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, s/walk/stagger/
[02:34:39] <SirFinkus> what could possibly go wrong?
[02:35:31] <juggs> he'll probably stagger into a bar along the way and wake up in a ditch at some point tomorrow :)
[02:35:47] <crutchy> i think oklohoma city was at least 2 people too (that we know of)
[02:36:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, are you familiar with Sea-Bird electronics?
[02:36:27] <crutchy> ~define sea-bird electronics
[02:36:39] <exec> sea-bird electronics: unable to find definition
[02:36:46] <crutchy> doh
[02:36:53] <Ethanol-fueled> jhttp://www.seabird.com
[02:37:01] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.seabird.com
[02:37:03] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Sea-Bird Electronics | Advancing the Science of Ocean Measurement
[02:37:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to play a game with you bastids when I get laid off this coming Friday.
[02:37:35] <crutchy> oh is that related to Argo?
[02:37:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to show you a photograph of me wearing a jacket with my company logo.
[02:38:13] <SirFinkus> nope ef
[02:38:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Here. If anybody here guesses the company within thirty seconds of the posting, more money will be put into the SN war chest.
[02:38:54] <crutchy> Honeywell?
[02:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> IF not, then SN is confirmed for know-nothings.
[02:39:09] <Ethanol-fueled> no crutchy. Not even close.
[02:39:15] <SirFinkus> TI
[02:39:30] <crutchy> you made something for a yacht owned by some rich dude
[02:39:48] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, we made a sensor for Oracle White and Oracle Black.
[02:40:08] <crutchy> yeah i was just trying to think of oracle's evil empiror
[02:41:17] <crutchy> Ruckus?
[02:41:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Can't wait for the game, it should be fun!
[02:41:53] <Ethanol-fueled> It will happen when I get laid off (next Friday) and when many others are present here.
[02:42:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I will post a pic of my company's logo. If the company is identified within 30 seconds of it, given that many others are here to identify it, then SN will get more money in their coffers.
[02:43:23] <Ethanol-fueled> If not, then an opportunity will be squandered because a so-called site for nerds failed to identify a big nerd corporation.
[02:44:08] <SirFinkus> our motto is "soylent news is people" though
[02:44:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus...that's why somebody should identify it.
[02:45:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I may even post a journal entry a couple days beforehand inviting others to guess.
[02:45:26] <SirFinkus> you may be stymied by google image search
[02:45:33] <SirFinkus> it's pretty good
[02:46:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, I'm already steps ahead of you. Google search will muddy up your efforts.
[02:46:14] <SirFinkus> hmm, interesting
[02:46:22] <Ethanol-fueled> This is designed such that you must immediately know the logo or fail.
[02:46:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I know some folks from SLASHDOT already know the logo...do any of YOU?
[02:46:58] <crutchy> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[02:47:04] <crutchy> ^this logo
[02:47:13] <crutchy> ?
[02:47:20] <Ethanol-fueled> not even close, crutchy.
[02:47:38] <Ethanol-fueled> You all will know this coming Friday.
[02:48:06] <crutchy> its not something like lockheed martin i hope
[02:48:10] <Ethanol-fueled> SOmebody here names the company, SN gets a donation.
[02:48:53] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, not Lockheed-Martin. But if I say what we were involved in, I'll blow our cover and we won't be playing the game.
[02:49:26] <Ethanol-fueled> I may give that as a hint if people are sucking at the guessing game.
[02:51:16] <crutchy> i'll prolly be in bed or at work anyway
[02:51:26] <Ethanol-fueled> I expect to hear confirmation of my impending layoff sometime next week. When I get it, the game will begin.
[02:51:55] <juggs> It can only be Wang
[02:52:31] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, there will be a catch.
[02:53:24] <Ethanol-fueled> the person who provides the correct answer will be required to provide proof that they didn't cheat, getting their answer via my IP logins from work
[02:53:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Given that I've posted here from work many times, I'd be damn surprised if you all didn't know by now.
[02:54:32] <SirFinkus> how would one provide proof of that kind of thing?
[02:57:05] <crutchy> Chassis Plans?
[02:57:38] <crutchy> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[02:57:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Not even close, crutchy.
[03:00:00] <crutchy> Hitachi Data Systems, Pulse~Link :p
[03:00:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, considering that I posted here from my work IP, I'd better call off the game.
[03:01:14] <chromas> We don't get your real IP
[03:01:17] <crutchy> only ones who can tell your ip here are irc staff
[03:01:23] * chromas is checking the backlog
[03:01:29] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, exactly.
[03:01:32] <Ethanol-fueled> HHAAHHHAA
[03:01:38] <chromas> we get stupid shit like Ethanol-fooled!~8232c801@130.50.hqs.i
[03:01:48] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that's all you need.
[03:01:54] <crutchy> xlefay set up a default cloaking system thingy
[03:02:02] <crutchy> oh. the hqs thing?
[03:02:24] <Ethanol-fueled> yup.
[03:02:41] <juggs> rDNS will catch you out like taht :D
[03:03:06] <chromas> yeah but it's not a real domain
[03:03:49] <juggs> want me to deactivate your cloak to prove a point chromas?
[03:04:11] <chromas> I know if shows my domain, but hqs.i isn't one
[03:04:14] <crutchy> mine said aussiebb, which is about right
[03:04:39] * crutchy is searching for hqs san diego
[03:05:05] <crutchy> google has gone downhill
[03:05:10] <juggs> yeah, the default masking is kinda variable in how good it is
[03:05:26] <chromas> it also had some numbers .xq.m
[03:05:43] <SirFinkus> really though, you should give them credit if they found out the company based on your host in the logs Ethanol-fueled
[03:05:50] <SirFinkus> that's a pretty nerdy thing to do
[03:05:56] <crutchy> its not bae systems? i guess the logo would give it away
[03:06:03] <SirFinkus> now that you mentioned it maybe not
[03:06:10] <chromas> plus if we do then it's still in under 30 seconds from showing the logo :D
[03:06:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, but nobody has yet, and if they did I wouldn't care now. So I'm waiting...
[03:06:21] <SirFinkus> but if someone thought of that and grepped the logs
[03:06:46] <Ethanol-fueled> I wanted to make it into a game but those who know already know, so there's no sport in it.
[03:06:47] <SirFinkus> well, I'm lazy
[03:07:06] <SirFinkus> and don't have local logs going back that far
[03:07:23] <crutchy> unless its an aerospace company i'm prolly not gunna guess a logo anyway
[03:07:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, it kinda is.
[03:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> But you don't have the logo yet. All you have is 130.50.hqs.i
[03:08:36] <SirFinkus> lol 3rd google result
[03:08:36] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[03:08:38] <SirFinkus> http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com
[03:08:39] <Manbearpig> ^ 03New York Statutory Rape Laws | Criminal Law
[03:08:41] <chromas> jiggles and pj could probably get it, pass go and collect $200
[03:09:02] * crutchy googles avionics companies in san diego
[03:09:09] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, for all I care they could have gotten it already. But what would that accomplish?
[03:09:16] <juggs> Probably doesn't help that I deleted a whole raft of charybdis and atheme logs just prior to the latest server move. Charybdis stuffs its logs in its own dir, which kinda annoyed me, so I nuked them :D
[03:09:27] <crutchy> i can remember things like bendix-king, honeywell, indigo one, etc
[03:09:34] <chromas> Well, it's still before 30 seconds from when you would have posted the picture :)
[03:09:36] <Ethanol-fueled> go ahead, crutchy.
[03:10:00] <crutchy> indigo one is indigosat now i guess
[03:10:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I've already given you all plenty of hints. Maritime sensory electronics. Having made a sensor for Oracle Black and Oracle White
[03:11:35] <Ethanol-fueled> There's no doubt on my mind that jiggles and any dev could have figured it out already. But even if they went through the detective work to do so, the stakes are pretty low :)
[03:12:04] <chromas> Still amusing for a bit though
[03:12:23] <SirFinkus> I'm not really all that technical anyway, so I'd be unlikely to know it
[03:12:29] <juggs> I'm not sure I'm feeling the motivation... what's the motivation?
[03:12:31] * SirFinkus just likes following tech news
[03:13:25] * crutchy goes back to googling virgina
[03:13:51] <Ethanol-fueled> ah well...perhaps I'll come back next week.
[03:14:14] <crutchy> would be interesting to find out still
[03:14:27] <crutchy> my google foo sucks
[03:14:47] * crutchy is just curious about whether he would recognise the logo
[03:15:00] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's the fun of the game.
[03:15:24] * chromas looks foe all EF's pics ever posted
[03:15:39] <Ethanol-fueled> chassis plans? Where the fuck did that come from? Thrall us with your acumen...
[03:15:44] <chromas> The first one was Natalie Jar Jar Binks on Portnam's character
[03:15:54] <chromas> shit, that editing
[03:16:19] <SirFinkus> I think I'm the only one that's posted pictures of his Wang (reference manual)
[03:16:20] <crutchy> there was a lot of suppliers of parts for the aircraft company i used to work for, but i dunno if your company would have been in there
[03:16:58] <crutchy> !grab SirFinkus
[03:16:58] <Bender> Added quote 521
[03:17:11] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, it's possible. But if you're going by my IP you're gonna think I'm slingin aircraft parts, and you're 180 degrees wrong.
[03:17:35] <Ethanol-fueled> What I did has nothing to do with the IP I was showin' you guys
[03:17:38] <crutchy> i dunno your ip. just going by your aerospace reference
[03:17:58] <SirFinkus> giggalo it is
[03:19:10] <crutchy> ooh can i get a recommendation? i wanna be a giggalo too
[03:19:36] <crutchy> wait. why would anyone wanna be laid off from being a giggolo?
[03:19:43] <crutchy> lol 'laid off'
[03:19:43] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[03:20:11] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the short answer is that I burnt myself out for the corporation.
[03:20:37] <crutchy> getting paid to fuck fat chicks would be awesome
[03:20:42] <Ethanol-fueled> I worked super-hard for them, but now I'm ready to relax and not work for a living.
[03:20:59] * crutchy wishes he could do that
[03:20:59] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I don't need to be paid to do that.
[03:21:14] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, you haz PM
[03:21:44] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, you haz pong
[03:22:03] <chromas> Ooh, I found your song links. There's something you can work on after retirement
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[03:23:03] <crutchy> You could start up Ethanol-Fueled Industries Ltd
[03:23:14] <crutchy> a porn producer
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[03:41:58] * juggs bows out of company logo recognition comp by dint of being a nosey bastard and poking the logs with some whois goodness. We really ought to be tighter on or log retention :)
[03:42:28] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs figured it out through detective work,
[03:42:41] <chromas> pay up
[03:42:46] <Ethanol-fueled> nope.
[03:42:48] <juggs> And I ain't sharing.
[03:43:37] <Ethanol-fueled> The reason why is because I posted from work IPs without obfuscation
[03:43:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Startup Beams the Web’s Most Important Content from Space, Free - http://sylnt.us - wrapped-in-a-comfy-warm-blanket
[03:44:27] <Ethanol-fueled> that crutchy knew at once that my work postings were .hqs.i gave him the ability to...
[03:44:32] <Ethanol-fueled> ...BE ABLIMEY SACKSUCK
[03:45:22] * Ethanol-fueled goes to the liquor store for more booze
[03:45:55] <juggs> Hmm, I'm not sure detective comes into it... there was a large amount of guesswork even with an IP to hand. Interesting trail though - read some shit about an industry I knew nothing about. :)
[03:47:00] * chromas only got to HUD and got distracted
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[03:48:17] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, the were recently in the news for creating a 50 calibre bullet that could seek around walls and attack its target.
[03:49:14] <juggs> I'm cool with that. If we really must go to war, let's at least make the weapons accurate and minimise the collateral damage.
[03:49:18] <Ethanol-fueled> they were not the primary contractor but were in charge of the imaging system.
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[03:54:07] <juggs> I think I saw that on YT - not the seeking round corners, but a 50 cal round with in flight course correction using a laser dot kept on the target if I remember correctly. Think it was touted as a "smart bullet". Not sure how much relevance sniping has in today's theatres of combat though.
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[04:12:01] <Ethanol-fueled> HAhahahaahahha!
[04:12:28] * juggs brings out the comfy chair
[04:13:13] <Ethanol-fueled> The life of a retard must be pretty awesome.
[04:14:26] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, remember last night? Man, watching those videos about Nazi Germany really does that to me, man!
[04:15:04] <juggs> Does what to you?
[04:15:41] <Ethanol-fueled> makes me wanna goose-step and schlausenshlooten.
[04:16:45] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:16:46] <Manbearpig> ^✓ 03Panzer rollen in Afrika vor (English Subtitle) - YouTube
[04:17:12] <juggs> What the hell is up with MediaWiki formatting with its '''[[ ]]''' structure. What we need is more quote marks and square brackets.
[04:19:09] <chromas> you don't like [[wikilinks]]?
[04:23:15] <juggs> I don't use it enough to become familiar, so every edit once or twice a year involves a learning curve. I know, that's just me being crusty :)
[04:25:13] <SirFinkus> does soylent news have a wiki page yet?
[04:25:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[04:26:23] <Ethanol-fueled> An unreadable one.
[04:28:19] <juggs> Got a link? I'm not getting anything searching wikipedia directly and the google just returns soylent wiki results
[04:29:07] * Ethanol-fueled watches awesome war vids of Nazi Germany
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[04:40:14] <juggs> Well that additional fuel didn't last long :/
[05:32:32] * juggs kicks MediaWiki in the nuts
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[05:46:24] * juggs flips upsidedown
[05:47:29] <crutchy> wtf
[05:47:45] <crutchy> oh maybe its my lappy that i just opened :p
[05:49:03] <juggs> Is it Sunday night for you crutchy?
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[05:49:28] <crutchy> ~time
[05:49:30] <exec> Sunday, 17 May 2015 @ 3:49 pm GMT+10 - Melbourne VIC
[05:49:37] <crutchy> not quite
[05:49:44] <crutchy> kids are playing skylanders
[05:51:00] <crutchy> if i could be bothered i would do some irciv coding, but i might just go play something on my lappy on the couch
[05:52:53] <crutchy_> coffee++
[05:52:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1374
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[05:54:43] <juggs> I'm done with wiki edits, it's too annoying. I swear a sadist invented that markdown. Sure ''' means bold and putting a - at the start of a line should invoke a quote like box. Things are not right when you spend longer twatting around with the display tags that the content. ~grr~
[06:01:13] <juggs> wow - that came over angry, I apologise.
[06:09:20] <crutchy> i just use normal html
[06:09:57] <crutchy> i made my own wiki for work, with db and sql tags that hook into the company access databases :p
[06:15:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Email Server Allegedly Compromised by Swedish Hacker - http://sylnt.us - keepin-it-old-skool
[06:16:01] <juggs> Yeh the few and far between times I negotiate SN's wiki, I kinda fall foul of what looks like a WYSIWYG interface is not that at all, it needs liberal sprinklings of <p></p> and some magic sauce that only wiki people know to get stuff to display right. I may be a curmudgeon.
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[07:08:34] <crutchy> ;battlestations
[07:08:34] <MrPlow> Bytram takyon mechanicjay|away Azrael stderr NCommander arti n1 TheMightyBuzzard cmn32480|sleeping CoolHand paulej72 Landon stdhell Imogen cosurgi juggs mrcoolbp
[07:08:38] <crutchy> oops
[07:09:05] * crutchy hides under the nearest rock
[07:10:15] <chromas> ;torpedo
[07:10:53] <exec> eergh! you sunk my battleship!
[07:26:21] <crutchy> http://www.nydailynews.com
[07:26:21] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Expert told Feds he hacked into plane's controls: FBI - NY Daily News
[07:27:11] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[07:27:12] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Can Google Outsell Amazon and eBay? - WSJ
[07:28:09] <crutchy> http://time.com
[07:28:11] <Manbearpig> ^ 03'World of Warcraft': Blizzard Entertainment Bans More Than 100,000
[07:29:02] <crutchy> http://www.cnet.com
[07:29:03] <Manbearpig> ^ 03This robot can crack your combination lock in less than 30 seconds - CNET
[08:17:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When the Father of One Twin is Not the Father of the Other - http://sylnt.us - well,-this-is-awkward
[09:36:37] <crutchy> ~last nick=tama channel=# message=sedbot
[09:36:56] <exec> 03[2015-05-17 09:28:2] # <tama> sedbot is a 53-line dork script
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[10:49:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jury Specifies Death for Boston Marathon Bomber - http://sylnt.us - problem-solving
[11:24:09] * SirFinkus had a dream last night that there were 50(!) story submissions
[12:20:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Define Pop Music Revolutions - http://sylnt.us - nevermind-the-bollocks
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[12:47:45] <crutchy> ~queue
[12:47:48] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 5 - http://sylnt.us
[12:48:06] <crutchy> SirFinkus, 5 down, only 45 to go :p
[12:48:45] <crutchy> ~g'night all
[12:48:46] * exec covertly hurls a bathtub of $insert_beverage_here at all
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[14:52:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study: African Americans on an African Diet and Africans on an American Diet - http://sylnt.us - !soul-food
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[15:34:47] * n1 shakes the submissions tin and coughs
[17:24:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EU Carriers Plan to Block Adverts, Demand Money from Google - http://sylnt.us - corporate-warfare
[19:15:53] <arti> good day gents
[19:19:30] <n1> g'day arti
[19:19:30] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! n1
[19:19:38] <n1> stfuciricunt
[19:19:45] <arti> how's it going
[19:20:15] * arti is attempting ssl cert installation on aws load balancer
[19:20:38] <arti> i'm mucking up something and their cli fail messages must be meditated on
[19:20:40] <n1> it's going, was supposed to be working on some stuff today, but my hosting provider is being lazy in upgrading my account
[19:20:44] <n1> so excuse for me to be lazy too
[19:20:53] <arti> dude, got a game recommendation fory ou
[19:21:03] <arti> it's a 4x game
[19:21:11] <arti> dungeon of the endless
[19:21:21] <arti> it's rogue + tower defence + rts
[19:21:25] * n1 goes have a look-see
[19:22:01] <n1> i do like me some rts and tower defence :D
[19:22:27] <arti> they've got a multiplayer mode in it, i haven't explored. just recently started getting into it (the company makes several 4x games, different varities)
[19:22:37] <arti> all in the same universe, it features dust (kinda like spice)
[19:23:23] <arti> you're in a ship that's under attack and you manage to escape with another (you pick characters to start with, there are others you can unlock as you play the game, featuring different stats)
[19:24:13] <arti> and you crash planetside and are in a dungeon, to which there are 9 levels, and you must escape them. the objective is to carry your ship crystal out of the level before you're overrun
[19:24:40] <arti> got my ass handed to me several games in a row before i realized you will get overrun no matter what your defences are
[19:25:04] <arti> "any time now they'll die down..."
[19:25:33] <arti> they've got a few other games though, a tile based rts that looks like civ, and another spaceship combat one
[19:26:02] <n1> so it's a hoard/wave kind of thing, as far as you will always be overrun?
[19:27:51] <arti> yes, so the way it works is you explore room by room (unlocking doors == turn)
[19:28:06] <n1> on the game subject, for a random bit of casual fun gaming, i have been enjoying besiege
[19:28:08] <arti> you can power rooms with dust, powered rooms won't potentially spawn enemies
[19:28:38] <arti> powered rooms let you build defenses and major modules (food, technology, industry, .... something else)
[19:28:55] <n1> it looks pretty cool
[19:29:04] <arti> if you keep your higher wit characters with the right abilities near the modules they produce more (you have your other ones explore)
[19:29:23] <arti> but several have abilities that work together better when teamed up. you can pause the game and issue commands too
[19:29:47] * NCommander upgrades neon
[19:30:16] <arti> the end goal is to build a powered path to the elevator exit, build some defenses (choke points etc) and then station your team along the route and sprint to the end with as many or all of your team as possible
[19:30:55] <arti> to mix it up there are merchants, artifacts, self powered rooms
[19:30:58] <arti> brb gotta jump someone's car
[19:36:23] <n1> looks to be something i'd enjoy, will pick it up at some point, when/if it goes on a sale, as i'm not likely to play it any time soon
[19:49:12] <NCommander> Our subscription count is looking good
[19:50:44] <n1> whats the number now?
[19:56:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop - http://sylnt.us - zero-gravity-thunderbuckets
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[20:07:47] <NCommander> n1, was looking at the total
[20:07:57] * NCommander notes rehash now properly recovers automatically if the database server is MIA
[20:08:12] <n1> what is the total?
[20:10:16] <NCommander> n1, $3,269
[20:10:46] <NCommander> actually, its $40 dollars higher in reality, we've gotten two more subs since then
[20:10:51] <n1> i thought you were talking about # of subscribers
[20:10:58] <n1> how many people get the little gold star
[20:10:59] <ciri> not sure
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[20:11:21] <NCommander> n1, really not sure because we get people who subscribe multiple times
[20:12:18] <n1> well 3269/20 as an estimate of 163
[20:12:38] <n1> which is pretty good i think
[20:13:37] <arti> :D
[20:13:54] <arti> cool, you guys should keep up the campaigns like the wiki foundation
[20:13:56] <arti> just keep going
[20:14:26] <n1> and use the face of jimmy wales are part of the nagger
[20:14:35] <arti> do a shot at the top with "our founder" and you can throw up some hilarious stats about how many erasers are saved
[20:14:36] <n1> because people will feel at home and familiar with that...
[20:14:54] <arti> Wimmy Jales.
[20:15:06] <n1> James Scotland
[20:15:07] * NCommander continues doing backend work
[20:15:18] <arti> so... squats?
[20:15:21] <n1> have fun, NCommander
[20:18:10] <NCommander> n1, arti: mostly getting us ready to deploy rehash, and put hydrogen back in service
[20:20:49] <arti> rehash == similar config feature where you can reload stuff?
[20:23:55] <chromas> The new name for the slash fork
[20:24:44] <NCommander> We decided to rename it with the port to mod_perl 2
[20:24:53] <NCommander> That was a *massive* overhaul
[20:24:57] <arti> oh, got'cha
[20:25:10] <arti> kudos on the deploy :D
[20:25:18] <NCommander> arti, not quite ready for deployment yet
[20:25:19] * arti has been tinkering with AWS
[20:25:30] <arti> the deployment options are pretty robust
[20:25:34] <n1> arti, whats aws like?
[20:25:37] <NCommander> arti, we still need to fix some last lingering bugs, but we stomped out all the unicode ones that cropped up from upgrading from Perl 5.12 -> 5.20
[20:25:51] <arti> rad! do you use any code sniffers?
[20:25:58] <NCommander> arti, we call it Bytram
[20:26:00] <arti> n1: aws is extremely robust
[20:26:22] <NCommander> arti, n1: we also are going from standard MySQL to MySQL Cluster
[20:26:25] <arti> i still prefer VPS personally, but for throwing up something and having it scale, no brainer.
[20:26:32] <NCommander> so there's going to be an extended downtime as we import the database.
[20:27:17] <arti> make a spiffy down page and you'll be set
[20:27:41] <arti> one you can play tetris or something on, when is the downtime planned?
[20:28:07] <NCommander> arti, paulej72 wants to get the search bugs stomped out first
[20:28:15] <NCommander> But I'm getting us ready to proof of concept this stuff
[20:28:56] <arti> search bugs? like search search?
[20:29:35] <NCommander> arti, SN's search engine
[20:29:40] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:41] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Search SoylentNews
[20:29:44] * arti scopes it out
[20:29:55] <arti> "In Space Everyone Can Hear You Poop"
[20:29:56] <arti> hahahaha
[20:30:35] <arti> is there a way to make a custom page?
[20:31:10] <arti> if someone wanted to sprinkle in lots of stuff, kinda like custom google pages?
[20:32:06] <arti> n1: if you have the itch to scope out AWS, you can do so free of charge for a year, requires a CC and a mobile phone. plenty to fool around on, they've got close to 40 products
[20:32:58] <arti> hmm, guess i could try hacking it with greasemonkey
[20:33:01] <n1> oh great, now i dont have an excuse to put it off...
[20:33:14] <arti> after the free year it's pay as you go
[20:33:27] * arti is easing into java
[20:33:39] <arti> totally different from what i'm used to
[20:34:07] <n1> in what way
[20:35:41] <arti> using connectors for database stuff, myeclipse (kinda nice, no plugin hell), the whole jdk shiz
[20:36:09] * NCommander notes he wishes rehash/slashcode was coded in Java vs. perl
[20:36:16] <arti> java is extremely capable
[20:36:29] <arti> there's libraries for everything
[20:36:47] <NCommander> ./srv/soylentnews.org is setup on helium
[20:36:48] <NCommander> yay
[20:37:10] <arti> the main reason i'm entertaining it, besides work, is how it can scale. plus i've been meaning to add this feather to my cap for awhile
[20:37:40] <arti> i'm also pleased rust made it to 1.0
[20:37:41] <arti> :D
[20:38:12] <arti> the sub 1.0 releases had lots of churn (naturally)
[20:38:21] <arti> so it'll be nice to have something stable
[20:38:29] * arti likes compiled stuff
[20:38:49] <arti> i'm so used to interpreted languages
[20:39:33] <arti> NCommander and team, awesome work. nice seeing progress and features.
[20:39:57] <arti> seems we've reached critical mass
[20:42:32] <arti> running on tomcat vs apache is new too
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[20:42:52] <arti> servlets and mapping
[20:43:15] <NCommander> rust really doesn't interest me :(
[20:43:38] <chromas> You're just not hip enough anymore
[20:44:27] <arti> origin of hip
[20:44:58] <arti> NCommander: perl doesn't really interest me
[20:45:29] <arti> plenty of stuff out there
[20:46:14] <arti> you know that's a really strange language? powershell
[20:47:57] <arti> you also know a buttload of languages
[20:48:02] <arti> so i'm sure there's overlap
[20:48:13] * arti isn't much of a C++ guy
[20:53:42] <NCommander> arti, I've done large scael powershell programs
[20:53:45] <NCommander> The designed is fucked up
[20:54:16] <arti> what did they do?
[20:55:18] <arti> they seemed to have gone for readability, instead of switches (like does -z operate the same)
[20:55:35] <arti> i get that it works with objects instead of text
[20:56:13] <arti> bummer is piping out those objects to a file, the encoding is not ansi which was fun when dealing with certs.
[20:58:35] <NCommander> arti, the pipeline
[20:58:54] <NCommander> arti, if you call a function, and don't handle the return value from something, THAT value gets returned automatically to the calling function
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[21:26:23] <NCommander> sudo: ldap_sasl_bind_s(): Confidentiality required
[21:26:23] <NCommander> httpd: bad user name slash
[21:26:27] * NCommander hates ldap
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[21:57:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Grooveshark Site Taken Down, Another One Pops Up - http://sylnt.us - whack-a-mole
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[22:07:18] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:07:18] <Manbearpig> Karma - coffee: 268
[22:07:18] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:07:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1375
[22:08:29] <crutchy> http://abcnews.go.com
[22:08:30] <Manbearpig> ^ 03'Terrible Day,' as Iraq Says City of Ramadi Falls to ISIS - ABC News
[22:08:46] * crutchy wonders how the pentagon is gunna spin that
[22:09:47] <crutchy> first comment: "ISIS will build statues of George W Bush thanking him for what he created."
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[22:11:48] <NCommander> Oh to fucking hell with this
[22:12:05] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, paulej72, Bytram: I'm fucking sick of fixing LDAP every time anythign changes. I'm replacing it with Hesoid
[22:12:31] <crutchy> NCommander, dos 6.22 ftw!
[22:12:50] <crutchy> linux. pfft. it'll never catch on :p
[22:13:05] <crutchy> 512 kb is enough for anybody
[22:13:30] <NCommander> crutchy, you jest, but not long ago, I have to decode a massive file blob in 2048 bytes of register storage.
[22:13:31] <chromas> Hey now it went all the way to 1024
[22:14:29] <crutchy> ew registers. they're like... little cages with monkeys in them right?
[22:15:53] <crutchy> http://www.usatoday.com
[22:15:54] <Manbearpig> ^ 03Officials look into whether hacker really took over plane
[22:17:15] <crutchy> it will be a cold day in hell when aviation regulations can keep up with hackers
[22:18:15] <crutchy> and unfortunately from my experience aircraft companies don't aim any higher than aviation regulations
[22:18:34] <crutchy> the minimum bar of safety is the only bar of safety
[22:22:13] <chromas> They don't need no regulation. Capitalism will take care of it ;)
[22:22:33] <crutchy> i doubt it could be any worse
[22:23:09] <crutchy> if the FAA was closed down i doubt Boeing would stop putting seat belts in aircraft
[22:24:31] <crutchy> the problem is people have gotten so used to government intervention in anything they're starting to think the world would end if it were removed
[22:26:18] <crutchy> but i doubt capitalism would be much better, at least for many years and plenty of deaths. but eventually the safety bar may be raised higher than regulation could keep up with if companies like Boeing had to take responsibility for the safety of their aircraft instead of governments taking the can
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[22:32:28] <n1> im actually amazed that that story went public
[22:32:35] <n1> unless there's going to be a very bad other side to that coin
[22:32:59] <n1> 'security researchers cant be trusted, you must now register your interests with the federal government'
[22:33:03] <n1> kind of bad side
[22:33:36] <n1> anything you do without explicit clearance from the .gov will leave security researchers open to prosecution
[22:42:20] <NCommander> Landon, ping?
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