#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-27

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[00:00:31] <Ethanol-fueled> If Jeb and/or Hillary get the nominations of their parties, I'm fleeing the country. Stick a fork in it, it's done.
[00:01:35] <takyon> American blacks are overwhelmingly Christian, have lower support for gay marriage, and other attributes that will cause friction with the Democratic party in the long run. For Republicans to gain hispanic support other than running a hispanic or spanish-speaking candidate, they need to deal with immigration, or have it dealt for them. Which doesn't seem implausible (even though it's failed time and time again)
[00:03:02] <takyon> GWB had pretty strong support from hispanic voters, and it can happen again. It will take work and luck to fold in new voters while keeping the base from revolting
[00:03:46] <takyon> having a poor or scandal-hit Democratic candidate can help. nobody is immune to scandal, even Hillary
[00:04:02] <Ethanol-fueled> ESPECIALLY Hillary.
[00:04:54] <takyon> she's doing well considering she had to fend off scandals while Sec. of State. Since everyone knew she would be running in 2016 since... 2008
[00:05:29] <takyon> missing emails have slid right off of her, Benghazi has done nothing, Clinton foundation foreign donors have slid right off
[00:05:55] <takyon> but there's more to come, particularly scandals that are fresh and not unearthed skeletons
[00:06:10] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, the stuff is ongoing.
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[00:07:23] <crutchy_> coffee++
[00:07:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1464
[00:07:39] <crutchy_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk
[00:07:41] <exec> └─ 13Now you can print your FACE on a latte: Coffee machine lets anyone create intricate foam art in just 10 seconds | Daily Mail Online
[00:07:46] <takyon> oh shit
[00:07:47] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[00:07:51] <exec> └─ 13One NY Escapee Killed by Border Patrol: SoylentNews Submission
[00:08:16] <takyon> >getting your breaking news from soylent submissions queue
[00:11:11] <crutchy_> apparently ISIS took Kobane yesterday?
[00:12:09] <takyon> I see attack/infiltration, not takeover
[00:12:13] <crutchy_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk
[00:12:15] <exec> └─ 13ISIS militants RE-ENTER Kobane as jihadis detonate suicide bomb | Daily Mail Online
[00:12:22] <crutchy_> yeah. seems a bit early to call
[00:12:33] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys think ISIS will take Syria?
[00:12:46] <takyon> no
[00:12:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope not.
[00:12:53] <crutchy_> i don't even know what ISIS really is
[00:12:55] <takyon> I think "take" is a strong word
[00:13:02] <Ethanol-fueled> you and me both, Crutchy.
[00:13:18] <takyon> their big advantage is being able to blend in with civilians to make air strikes infeasible
[00:13:47] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon, not to mention that nobody other than Assad's forces is seriously fighting them.
[00:14:00] <crutchy_> seems like not long ago they were the good guys that ol' hillary was sending weapons to fight the syrian army with
[00:14:24] <Ethanol-fueled> They had a photo op with McCain just like old Rummy did with Saddam Hussein
[00:14:28] <crutchy_> (or so the rumor mill says)
[00:14:31] <takyon> well we took forever to send anything over there
[00:14:36] <takyon> and didn't send much
[00:14:46] <Ethanol-fueled> The rumor mill also says that Americans are airdropping weapons into their rerritory.
[00:14:48] <takyon> Hillary was one of the ones pushing for an earlier intervention
[00:15:03] <takyon> that's why Hillary is now known as a neoconservative
[00:15:17] <crutchy_> if she had her way isis would have already taken syria
[00:15:26] <takyon> http://www.nytimes.com
[00:15:40] <takyon> Idk about that
[00:15:43] <Ethanol-fueled> if she had her way, the US would have directly removed Assad by force like they did Saddam's regime
[00:16:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course Hillary is a neocon.
[00:16:05] <crutchy_> rand paul is right; anything america does in the mid-east blows up in its face
[00:16:15] <takyon> there were "moderate rebels", but they had shit for arms and have been blown to pieces while people were mulling this
[00:17:03] <takyon> I think the lesson of Syria is that you go all-out, or don't go in at all. Don't go half-assed
[00:17:11] <crutchy_> like iraq?
[00:17:33] <takyon> you forgot the other choice
[00:17:45] <crutchy_> afghanistan?
[00:17:52] <crutchy_> vietnam?
[00:18:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I think the lesson is that you can't fight savages with conventional warfare, and you cannot trust paying other savages to fight enemy savages.
[00:18:25] <paulej72> we lost vietnam because we did not want to do WWIII with Russia
[00:18:26] <crutchy_> the only "all-out" is to nuke the entire site from orbit
[00:18:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Another lesson -- stop dicking around with everybody's affairs, embrace protectionism and populism.
[00:18:49] <takyon> we won't learn the lesson
[00:18:56] <takyon> drones are too easy
[00:19:02] <crutchy_> drones are dumb
[00:19:23] <Ethanol-fueled> drones are too easy when you're fighting tribal goat-fuckers.
[00:19:26] <crutchy_> and they can be taken out by anyone with russian missiles
[00:19:37] <takyon> drones is a broad term
[00:20:01] <takyon> they can be like smart missiles, or fighter planes without the fighter
[00:20:40] <crutchy_> missiles are usually treated as a different kettle of fish to drones
[00:20:44] <takyon> your killing precision is limited by the capabilities, intelligence, and how much you care about collateral damage
[00:22:28] <Ethanol-fueled> can't we just have a boxing match, like Rocky V?
[00:22:54] <Ethanol-fueled> er, rocky IV
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[00:23:36] <takyon> Syria is already great containment for Islamists
[00:23:49] <takyon> sure, there have been attacks here and there in the West, but most of the action is over there
[00:23:51] <crutchy_> i hope the world gets better, but i cant see it happening
[00:24:00] <crutchy_> ww3 is on its way :(
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[00:24:07] <Ethanol-fueled> "great containment for islamists" would be firing up the B-52's and carpet-bombing all controlled territory.
[00:24:18] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, you're gonna get overran by china.
[00:24:21] <takyon> 50 shades of great
[00:24:30] <crutchy_> meh. we're already overrun by china
[00:24:32] <Ethanol-fueled> they're gonna make man-made islands on your great barrier reef.
[00:24:50] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[00:24:50] <SpallsHurgenson> WW3 is a necessary to reaching Star Trek :)
[00:24:52] <exec> └─ 13New Volley In Trump Vs. Univision Fight : The Two-Way : NPR
[00:24:52] <crutchy_> i'm pretty sure china owns decent chunks of america too
[00:25:11] <takyon> China is probably going to have its own housing crisis
[00:25:22] <takyon> its GDP growth will drop a few % points
[00:25:40] <takyon> automation won't be great for China either
[00:25:44] <paulej72> China has a housing crisis
[00:25:48] <takyon> Foxconn is already eyeing them bots
[00:25:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, I'm okay with that. Living in a missile silo in Montana drinking beer and listening to music on a vintage jukebox, living in a proto-techno-commune in the wilderness.
[00:25:58] <crutchy_> prolly. seems like 6%+ annual growth year after year has to slow down eventually
[00:26:19] <takyon> well their GDP numbers are artificially boosted by unnecessary construction
[00:26:38] <crutchy_> australia will have a housing crisis soon. especially in sydney and melbourne. nobody can afford houses except for chinese millionaires
[00:26:43] <paulej72> building cities that noone wants to move into
[00:26:44] <SpallsHurgenson> lots of nice homes in Ordos :)
[00:27:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, that's pretty funny because they Chinese are scooping up American properties left and right.
[00:27:25] <crutchy_> paulej72, when the prices drop people will move in. prices are just unrealistically high. its not like china doesn't have the population to fill them all
[00:27:54] <crutchy_> china still gradually urbanizing
[00:28:07] <takyon> China has a lot of rural people who can't afford to move into the urban areas
[00:28:15] <takyon> and there's stuff like...(back in a minute)
[00:28:43] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[00:28:46] <exec> └─ 13Why four Chinese children, all siblings, committed suicide - MarketWatch
[00:29:54] <takyon> here's a link for everyone who claimed that Samsung was not disabling/blocking Windows Update in that story: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:29:57] <exec> └─ 13Samsung: We'll stop knackering Windows Update on your laptops • The Register
[00:30:46] <SpallsHurgenson> knackering windows update? talk about beating a dead horse...
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[00:32:33] <takyon> wow
[00:32:36] <takyon> track'd
[00:32:51] <takyon> do any of you non-editors use my extension?
[00:32:53] <Alberto> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:32:57] <exec> └─ 13D-Wave promises chip that could SEARCH THE WHOLE UNIVERSE • The Register
[00:33:00] <Alberto> This can be used for a normal computer?
[00:33:07] * SpallsHurgenson fired up his old 1999 Thinkpad today; 16 years old and still going strong
[00:33:07] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[00:33:07] <Alberto> or is just for cience and shit?
[00:33:09] <Alberto> o.O
[00:33:12] <exec> └─ 13Journal of takyon (881)
[00:33:13] <takyon> oh boy Alberto
[00:33:23] <takyon> the answer is no
[00:33:38] <Alberto> =/
[00:33:48] <Alberto> so no better bitcoin mining?
[00:33:50] <Alberto> :>
[00:33:51] <takyon> it's a quantum annealer, which can do less than a quantum computer
[00:33:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> can only run quantum algorithms with any speed
[00:34:31] <Alberto> means i can't google shit there then
[00:34:51] <takyon> if you want to get excited about a computer, take a look at Optalysys
[00:35:06] <takyon> http://optalysys.com
[00:35:11] <exec> └─ 13Optalysys – revolutionary optical processing technology
[00:35:39] * arti finishes watching an old episode of mr wizard
[00:35:41] <SpallsHurgenson> but can it run Crysis?
[00:35:50] <arti> i still haven't played that game
[00:35:51] <takyon> http://www.extremetech.com
[00:35:53] <exec> └─ 13By 2020, you could have an exascale speed-of-light optical computer on your desk | ExtremeTech
[00:36:15] <takyon> it's unclear whether you could run Linux/Windows/Crysis on Optalysys, or whether it will be a specialized coprocessor type of thing
[00:36:23] <arti> it will be used for twitbook and porn
[00:36:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I just want my holodeck.
[00:36:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't electrons move at the speed of light?
[00:36:57] <takyon> who needs a holodeck when you have Oculus Rift
[00:37:03] <takyon> not in silicon they don't
[00:37:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Optical computing will enable Libreoffice to start in under 30 seconds.
[00:38:11] <SpallsHurgenson> usually the electrons move fairly slowly. the electromagnetic wave on the other hand...
[00:38:24] <takyon> LibreOffice Writer took about 19 seconds to load on my machine
[00:38:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I forget... its like around half C usually, I think. Varies depending on the medium of course
[00:38:55] * SpallsHurgenson is old and doesn't remember things anymore. But I have a lovely lawn :)
[00:38:58] <JamesNZ> Takes 8-9 on mine.
[00:39:05] <takyon> I don't have an SSD
[00:39:15] <JamesNZ> Neither do I.
[00:39:23] <SpallsHurgenson> 6 seconds :)
[00:39:38] <SpallsHurgenson> (but I used it earlier today so it probably had stuff cached in mem :)
[00:39:52] <JamesNZ> Cheater!
[00:40:14] <SpallsHurgenson> if you like, I could try it on my old Atom-powered netbook :)
[00:40:18] <arti> spalls, the other half is java
[00:40:31] <SpallsHurgenson> but you'll have to wait until it finishes loading :)
[00:40:38] <takyon> spalls don't torture your computer like that
[00:40:42] <arti> once you load, you never stop.
[00:40:44] <takyon> (just keep it turned off)
[00:41:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: 2/3 the speed of light is what I remeber
[00:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> 37 seconds to the log
[00:41:53] <SpallsHurgenson> o
[00:42:13] <SpallsHurgenson> 67 second to the window
[00:42:32] <SpallsHurgenson> 79 seconds before I could actually start typing :
[00:42:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Corals are Already Adapting to Global Warming, Scientists Say - http://sylnt.us - now-if-everything-else-can-do-the-same
[00:44:07] * TheMightyBuzzard puts on shorts
[00:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> there, adapted.
[00:44:21] <crutchy_> you have offended SpallsHurgenson
[00:45:02] <SpallsHurgenson> it's just the first step; he will come the rest of the way in time :)
[00:45:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> not likely. i go outside to smoke.
[00:48:18] <Ethanol-fueled> sup buzzard
[00:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> chillin, drinkin
[00:49:16] <Ethanol-fueled> As life should be.
[00:49:21] <takyon> 4th of drink-ly in 1 week
[00:49:32] <Ethanol-fueled> America, fuck yeah.
[00:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> still got like a case n a half of elderberry wine n bout the same of hard cider
[00:49:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Hangover city, Buzzard.
[00:49:48] <takyon> what cider, buzzard
[00:49:54] <Ethanol-fueled> But the trip tastes good, at least.
[00:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> homemade, takyon
[00:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~15% abv
[00:50:10] * takyon respects
[00:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> 10lbs of sugar for five gallons instead of the usual 5lbs
[00:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> none of it survived the yeast though. it's all alcohol now.
[00:51:22] <takyon> clearly
[00:51:56] <takyon> I think I'll start looking for airlocks
[00:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i get mosta my stuff from northernbrewer.com
[00:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> uh oh, my glass is empty
[00:54:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Pessimist. It's not empty, it's just not filled :)
[00:55:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Time to reload.
[01:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, yet
[01:02:59] <SpallsHurgenson> that's the spirit!
[01:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[01:05:22] <paulej72> you killed EF with your image TheMightyBuzzard
[01:05:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> turnabout is fair play
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[01:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, i got a friend of mine bout to set up a rehash site for personal blogging.
[01:07:27] <paulej72> woo hoo
[01:07:32] <SpallsHurgenson> you're not a very good friend :)
[01:07:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, who do you think is going to end up doing all his tech support?
[01:08:07] <SpallsHurgenson> that just means you're not very smart either :)
[01:08:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[01:08:55] <SpallsHurgenson> just point 'im to blogger and walk away :)
[01:09:12] <SpallsHurgenson> (or whatever the favorite freebie is these days)
[01:09:18] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a pretty useful platform for anybody to interact with their followers.
[01:09:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I only the code wasn't so goddamn unreadable.
[01:09:58] <Ethanol-fueled> to mere mortals, at least.
[01:10:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> same way i feel every time i look at javascript
[01:13:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - One NY Escapee Killed by Border Patrol - http://sylnt.us - considered-armed-and-dangerous
[01:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. they should do that to anyone who tries to escape NY
[01:13:50] <paulej72> They made a movie about that
[01:14:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> they did, didn't they? i should watch that again.
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[01:15:45] <Ethanol-fueled> The L.A. one is also pretty good.
[01:15:57] <paulej72> NY is better
[01:16:07] <Ethanol-fueled> NY is better, because it was the original.
[01:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled> And Snake Plisskin is referenced in Metal Gear Solid 2.
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[01:22:49] <Marknmel> G'day. not sure if you folks were aware, but the "daily digest" has been somewhat wonky as of late.
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[01:24:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Marknmel, email digest you mean?
[01:24:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> was not aware.
[01:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo look into daily email digests
[01:25:24] <Bender> todo item 7 added
[01:26:42] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: helium is not setup to send email
[01:27:03] <paulej72> slashd is running on helium
[01:27:39] <paulej72> also not sure if it is setup rign on hydrogen since NCommander rebuilt it
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[01:28:02] <NCommander> yay, I broke it. Again
[01:28:03] <NCommander> -_-;
[01:28:14] <NCommander> paulej72, emails should be set out from helium.
[01:28:44] <paulej72> for slashd stuff, but not for new account creation
[01:28:51] <paulej72> and password resets
[01:31:30] <NCommander> paulej72, $!@#!$#$@#$@$%#$%
[01:31:46] <NCommander> paulej72, I forgot about that and didn't setup hydrogen's MTA. Let me fix that
[01:32:06] <paulej72> Is helium's setup.
[01:32:22] <paulej72> it should be the same as fluorine's
[01:32:43] <NCommander> paulej72, I don't have a stats email for yesterday
[01:32:44] <NCommander> shit
[01:32:45] <ciri> shit? where is it? so noone steps in it!!!
[01:32:49] <NCommander> .op
[01:32:49] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o NCommander] by Imogen
[01:32:51] <paulej72> should route to very
[01:32:55] -!- mode/#Soylent [+b *!*ciri@*.com] by NCommander
[01:32:55] -!- ciri was kicked from #Soylent by NCommander!~mcasadeva@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mcasadevall [ciri]
[01:33:04] <paulej72> should route to bery
[01:33:13] <SpallsHurgenson> NCommander++
[01:33:13] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 88
[01:33:48] <Ethanol-fueled> HAhahaha
[01:33:54] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander++
[01:33:54] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 89
[01:34:03] <JamesNZ> RIP ciri.
[01:34:08] <Ethanol-fueled> put a mode +b on that bitch while you at it.
[01:34:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, you did.
[01:34:58] <NCommander> paulej72, postfix setup on hydrogen
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[01:36:03] <NCommander> Jun 27 01:35:20 hydrogen postfix/smtp[29294]: 486B67A479: to=<mcasadevall@ubuntu.com>, relay=beryllium.li694-22[2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe6e:311b]:25, delay=0.67, delays=0.34/0.12/0.07/0.14, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host beryllium.li694-22[2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe6e:311b] said: 554 5.7.1 <mcasadevall@ubuntu.com>: Relay access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[01:36:04] <NCommander> Ugh
[01:36:33] <Marknmel> yes, the email daily digest.
[01:36:40] <NCommander> dear god
[01:36:43] * NCommander shivers
[01:36:50] <NCommander> the postfix setup on beryllium is horrorifying
[01:36:58] <NCommander> Marknmel, I'm working on it
[01:37:16] <paulej72> NCommander: I don't think postfix is installed on helium
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[01:37:51] <Marknmel> hey, thats cool. just wanted to let the good guys know :-) Thanks eh!
[01:38:23] <paulej72> notice that mechanicjay just quit just as we were having mail issues
[01:39:10] <Ethanol-fueled> mechanicjay quit?
[01:39:20] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm going to find the fortitude to torch and burn beryllium's MTA setup
[01:39:36] <paulej72> NCommander: I would not do that
[01:40:04] <paulej72> there are a bunch of interlinked stuff on there that will break
[01:41:07] <NCommander> paulej72, not tonight, but eventually. I shall burn the evil of systemd from the soylentnews servers
[01:41:42] <paulej72> I wanted to kill bery, but no one else wanted to
[01:42:05] <NCommander> paulej72, I wanted to kill bery too!
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[01:42:57] <paulej72> cmn32480: did comcrap fix your internet
[01:43:09] <cmn32480> all day sucked at the office
[01:43:18] <cmn32480> now I am at home on Fios
[01:43:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Analysts: Netflix Poised to Top American Networks’ Nielsen Ratings by 2016 - http://sylnt.us - cashstream
[01:43:32] <cmn32480> smooth sailing
[01:43:50] <paulej72> poor cmn32480 stuck on comcrap business internet at work
[01:44:13] <cmn32480> other options: T1 or dial up
[01:44:36] <cmn32480> neither of whcih are really viable
[01:45:26] <cmn32480> nobody but IRC was complaining
[01:45:37] <NCommander> Jun 27 01:44:40 beryllium postfix/qmgr[29696]: 2E5E741D7: from=<mcasadevall@helium.li694-22>, size=584, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[01:45:37] <NCommander> Jun 27 01:44:40 beryllium postfix/smtp[29705]: certificate verification failed for mx.canonical.com[91.189.94.145]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=DigiCert Inc/OU=www.digicert.com/CN=DigiCert Global Root CA
[01:45:37] <NCommander> Jun 27 01:44:41 beryllium postfix/smtp[29705]: 2E5E741D7: to=<mcasadevall@ubuntu.com>, relay=mx.canonical.com[91.189.94.145]:25, delay=0.96, delays=0.02/0/0.82/0.12, dsn=4.1.8, status=deferred (host mx.canonical.com[91.189.94.145] said: 450 4.1.8 <mcasadevall@helium.li694-22>: Sender address rejected: Domain not found (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[01:45:43] <NCommander> Omnious failure is onmious
[01:45:47] <paulej72> NCommander: are we running a different postfix setup from distro default on helium
[01:46:00] <NCommander> paulej72, there was no MTA installed on helium
[01:46:23] <NCommander> paulej72, mail is sending from helium and hydrogen ... kinda
[01:47:33] <paulej72> is there rewrites for fluorine on bery
[01:47:44] <NCommander> paulej72, doesn't appear so
[01:47:59] <Marknmel> Sounds like fun, until someone gets out the bat book....
[01:48:44] <NCommander> paulej72, the only change in the stock config is where audioguy set relayhost by hand, I don't think he knew to dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[01:49:49] * NCommander notes that at least I didn't have to debug sendmail.cf
[01:50:39] <paulej72> NCommander: main.cf on bery has the wrong restrictions fro hydrogen and helium as compated to flurine
[01:51:31] <NCommander> paulej72, I fixed it
[01:51:35] <paulej72> there are no restriction for flourine but there are incorrect ones on hydrogen and helium
[01:51:47] <NCommander> paulej72, I added hydrogen and helium to the relay hosts
[01:52:11] <NCommander> well, mynetworks line
[01:52:25] <paulej72> main.cf lines 279, 280 and 284
[01:52:53] <NCommander> paulej72, audioguy just noted all the IP configurations, the magic line that allows relaying is the mynetworks line above that
[01:53:15] <paulej72> ok
[01:54:06] <NCommander> paulej72, oh, BTW, that reminds me. I'm in NYC. Want to do $BEER?
[01:54:34] <SpallsHurgenson> woot, NYC.
[01:55:06] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, you're in the big apple now that I think about it, right?
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[01:55:45] <SpallsHurgenson> that depends on whether or not I get a beer out of it :)
[01:56:51] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, ... :P
[01:57:05] <cmn32480> it is a freaking generic mouse... why does it need special drivers?????????
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[01:57:09] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, theres beer, but its coors lite. *EVIL LAUGH*
[01:57:23] <arti> cmn32480 freebsd?
[01:57:26] <NCommander> Marknmel, the email issue should be fixed. We'll know for sure when the daily digest drops out of the pipe
[01:57:33] <cmn32480> arti - Windows 7
[01:57:40] <paulej72> cmn32480: its not a generic mouse, its a cheap device that emulates a mouse in some cases
[01:57:52] <arti> ---^
[01:57:54] <SpallsHurgenson> that's like saying, "There's water, but it's sand"
[01:58:06] <Marknmel> sweet, thanks for that! over and out!
[01:58:17] <cmn32480> it is one dell mouse replacing an older dell mouse
[01:58:25] <paulej72> some of the cheap mice do not work with the standard HID USB drivers
[01:58:27] <arti> dude! you're getting a dell!
[01:58:33] <cmn32480> I already have one
[01:58:39] <cmn32480> work paid
[01:58:54] <cmn32480> and I get to use it for whatever I want. Including editing a certain news aggregation site
[01:59:18] <NCommander> cmn32480, you edit Slashdot?
[01:59:20] * NCommander ducks
[01:59:23] <cmn32480> but they spent some cash for me at least
[01:59:25] <arti> http://www.ripten.com
[01:59:32] <paulej72> I never had issues with dell mice unless some other mouse dirver fuxked up the system first. The one was a cheap travel mouse that would casue strange drivers to be installed
[01:59:36] cmn32480 is now known as Timothy
[01:59:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell boxes rock. Don't knock the Dells.
[01:59:43] <Timothy> ncommander
[01:59:53] <Timothy> now that you know the secret....
[01:59:57] <arti> the buisness stuff at least
[02:00:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm generally okay with Dells (remembering that they are cheapo PCs) but OEM mice suck in general
[02:00:15] Timothy is now known as cmn32480
[02:00:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Or the refurbished ones purchased at extreme discouts.
[02:00:20] <NCommander> Timothy, this is like that reveal that Darth Vadar is Luke Skywalkers father
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[02:00:34] * arti watches the hand tumble down instead
[02:00:50] <paulej72> I like dells becuse we have onsite warranty repair and I can get 5 year warranties cheap
[02:00:51] cmn32480 is now known as samzenpus
[02:01:16] <samzenpus> we are all on the same side
[02:01:17] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, my last employer had a corporate Dell contract, but they disposed of the e-waste themselves.
[02:01:30] <samzenpus> join the dark side... adn we can rule that galaxy as father and son!
[02:01:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Got a fat dual-port graphics card from their e-waste. Slapped it in my dell box and it runs like a champ./
[02:02:06] <samzenpus> ncommander... i find your lack of faith..... disturbing
[02:02:07] <NCommander> samzenpus, return the Read More link, and denounce DICE, for it is the only way back to the LIGHT
[02:02:09] <Ethanol-fueled> samzenpus, I did join the dark side. that's probably why you guys banned me.
[02:02:26] <arti> i thought she was jewish?
[02:02:42] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you were knocked down to -25 IPID karma. Democracy banned you.
[02:02:44] <samzenpus> join the dark side.... we have cookies!
[02:03:05] <samzenpus> but no cake (sorry spallshurgenson)
[02:03:24] <NCommander> This would be epic timing for a real /. editor or allumi to show up
[02:03:29] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander, that must have been a recent policy or a manual administrative adjustment.
[02:03:40] samzenpus is now known as cmn32480
[02:03:42] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, remember we had to unban you by hand?
[02:03:44] <Ethanol-fueled> The real question is, why wasn't I banned much sooner than that?!
[02:03:45] <cmn32480> but it was funny :-)
[02:03:54] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, you failed to piss off the hive mind
[02:03:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, NCommander.
[02:03:59] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, try harder
[02:04:06] <cmn32480> god knows you tried hard enough ethanol-fueled
[02:04:22] <NCommander> I do have to wonder if any of the /. admins roam, occassionally becoming ACs
[02:04:44] <paulej72> NCommander: they probably have drop accounts
[02:04:57] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander, one of the possibilities about this place is that it is run by Slashdot admins(or ex-admins).
[02:04:59] <NCommander> paulej72, drop accounts?
[02:05:03] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[02:05:06] <exec> └─ 13Snoop Dogg - Drop It Like It's Hot ft. Pharrell Williams - YouTube
[02:05:07] <paulej72> like a drop gun
[02:05:10] <Alberto> Why my karma is on 0?
[02:05:12] <Alberto> i had 5
[02:05:15] <Alberto> now is 0
[02:05:16] <Alberto> o.O
[02:05:17] <paulej72> drop it when the heat is on
[02:05:28] <arti> alberto, inflation :(
[02:05:31] <NCommander> Alberto, Inflation
[02:05:33] <NCommander> Gah
[02:05:36] <Alberto> ¬¬
[02:05:36] <NCommander> arti stole my joke
[02:05:42] <arti> says the guy who says it later
[02:06:13] <NCommander> Karma is like the Greek economy. Horribly unstable and about to flatline :)
[02:06:41] * Alberto scanning SL for mySQL access to recover his Karma
[02:06:49] <arti> lol
[02:06:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, do what you must. Here I am at the mercy of the gods. But my mere mortal voice never compromised at the other place, and nor will it here.
[02:07:08] <cmn32480> is retiring a server 3 days before it's service contract runs out excellent timing or poor planning?
[02:07:17] <arti> yes.
[02:07:26] <cmn32480> Ethanol-Fueled - we wouldn't have you any other way.
[02:08:25] <NCommander> Alberto, good luck. Our database schema has broken minds.
[02:08:45] <cmn32480> THAT explains TMB....
[02:08:55] <arti> i thought it was more alberto's doings
[02:09:02] <Alberto> :D
[02:09:14] <NCommander> cmn32480, no, that was UTF-8 that broke the mighty buzzard
[02:09:21] <arti> !uid
[02:09:22] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5594, owned by Contra_Luddite
[02:09:28] <cmn32480> ahhhhhhhhhh.....
[02:09:42] <cmn32480> some of the nicks on thei place are hilarious
[02:10:13] <NCommander> !fudge
[02:10:18] <NCommander> ... aw
[02:10:44] <paulej72> !bier
[02:10:44] * Bender pak het gerust zelf, paulej72
[02:11:51] <NCommander> !selfdestruct
[02:13:30] <arti> i think imgur takes the cake
[02:13:36] <arti> just saw ToucherOfButts
[02:13:54] <arti> PissingINaShotglassSpinningOnRecordplayerStrappedTOaCheetasBack
[02:21:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds like a German noun.
[02:22:28] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, you mean fetrumpenschnattemhausselderrimmengungen
[02:23:26] <arti> lol
[02:24:19] <SpallsHurgenson> kitty is running around chasing a moth. Either that or someone spiked her kibble with crack
[02:25:57] <cmn32480> you put on the catnip cologne again spalls?
[02:27:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I actually have some catnip-scented spray :)
[02:27:40] <SpallsHurgenson> not that it has any effect on kitty, sadly.
[02:28:18] <cmn32480> laser pointers work pretty well though
[02:35:59] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, she is liking this bug :)
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[02:43:41] <crutchy_> !coffee
[02:44:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Love it, but it matters less when you don't need it to wake you up for something.
[02:44:54] <cmn32480> coffee++
[02:44:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1465
[02:45:22] <cmn32480> EF there is somethign to be said for the taste fo a good cup of coffee
[02:45:43] <cmn32480> even a half decent one.... not to mention the caffine
[02:47:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, it's a lot like a drink...the more character in its bitterness, the more it's gonna get you fucked up.
[02:48:00] <cmn32480> that is a pretty good characterization. I never thoguht of it htat way
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[02:58:19] <cmn32480> what's it called when you never die?
[02:58:28] <arti> mcdonalds
[02:58:44] <cmn32480> immortality
[02:58:48] <cmn32480> thanks arti
[02:59:00] <arti> welcome tim
[02:59:13] cmn32480 is now known as timothy
[02:59:18] <timothy> don't be mean
[02:59:22] <timothy> no reason
[02:59:23] <arti> you should roll with that, srsly
[02:59:52] <timothy> just stay logged in this way all weekend to screw with people?
[03:00:13] <SpallsHurgenson> There are some that call me... Tim
[03:00:58] timothy is now known as timzenskill
[03:01:44] timzenskill is now known as timothy
[03:01:51] <timothy> i don't know why there is all the hate...
[03:01:58] <timothy> all we did was make it better
[03:02:12] <timothy> allow you to share your favorite articles on social media
[03:02:24] <timothy> nobody actually used the read more button
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[03:03:03] <timothy> you guys seriously act like we peed in your cheerios
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[03:05:40] <timothy> what don't you get SpallsHurgenson
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[03:06:15] <SpallsHurgenson> your humor is too sophisticated and referential for my tiny little mind
[03:07:00] <timothy> I'm an editor SpallsHurgenson
[03:07:45] <SpallsHurgenson> you can't be an editor Spalls Hurgenson. I'm an editor SpallsHurgenson
[03:08:21] <timothy> how quickly you children forget your roots
[03:09:00] <SpallsHurgenson> are we talking about grassroots? I have a loverly lawn
[03:09:51] * JamesNZ is tempted to run across it, that's the second time SpallsHurgenson has mentioned how lovely it is
[03:10:08] <timothy> watch for landmines JamesNZ
[03:10:25] <timothy> or worse... bedbugs!
[03:10:42] <JamesNZ> timothy: Hmm, perhaps I'll let the bedbugs go first :D
[03:10:58] <timothy> good plan... let them trip the landmines
[03:11:15] * SpallsHurgenson remains confused
[03:11:36] * JamesNZ cackles evilly
[03:11:46] <timothy> SpallsHUrgenson - timothy is the head editor at /.
[03:12:02] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, THAT timothy
[03:12:11] <timothy> yeesh.....
[03:12:20] <timothy> the joke isn't fun after you ahve to explain it!
[03:12:26] <SpallsHurgenson> does he still work there? I don't really pay attention to the article submitters
[03:12:34] <SpallsHurgenson> (I'm just there for the comments :)
[03:12:56] <timothy> Are you here for the comments too? or just for IRC?
[03:13:43] <JamesNZ> Plot twist: he's here for both!
[03:13:55] <timothy> <thunderclap>
[03:14:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm the necessary noise required to maintain the noise-to-signal ratio of a an IRC channel :)
[03:14:21] <timothy> but i guess a thunderclap is better than getting the clap
[03:17:00] <SpallsHurgenson> what is your basis for comparison there; are you speaking from experience?
[03:17:54] <timothy> no... we'll call it an educated guess
[03:19:03] <SpallsHurgenson> it all sounds too pat.
[03:19:32] <timothy> if it is pat... that's just ambiguous
[03:19:54] <SpallsHurgenson> see, that's a reference I get!
[03:21:57] <timothy> ok. fair enough. I'll try to keep them strictly pop culture
[03:22:04] <timothy> just for you
[03:27:54] <SpallsHurgenson> tonight's random topic of discussion is:
[03:30:27] <SpallsHurgenson> hnhn. I was sort of hoping somebody would jump in there.
[03:31:59] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I guess it's up to me then, as usual
[03:33:57] <SpallsHurgenson> so, tonight's random topic of discussion will be...
[03:37:03] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... thought for sure it would work this time
[03:42:22] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, for realsies this time: tonight's random topic of discussion is...
[03:42:44] <SpallsHurgenson> why haven't any nations become "data havens" for real? they could make a ton of money
[03:42:56] <SpallsHurgenson> (hah, thought I didn't have a topic, didja?)
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[03:45:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mystery Excreta: Firm to Pay $2.2M Over Forced DNA Testing for Workers - http://sylnt.us - craptacular
[03:45:03] <arti> http://imgur.com
[03:45:03] <arti> hah
[03:45:06] <exec> └─ 13Ewww - GIF on Imgur
[03:46:27] <SpallsHurgenson> interesting rebuttal
[04:06:02] <SpallsHurgenson> but have you considered...
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[04:37:18] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[04:37:21] <exec> └─ 13Star Wars Wars: All 6 Films At Once (720p HD) - YouTube
[05:15:17] <chromas> exec: s/6/3/
[05:15:17] <sedctl> <chromas> <exec> └─ 13Star Wars Wars: All 3 Films At Once (720p HD) - YouTube
[05:16:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan Building Giant Battery Systems to Store Solar Power - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-lot-of-double-a's
[05:31:29] <crutchy_> japan has a massive underground water storage thingy too
[05:32:23] <crutchy_> http://www.water-technology.net
[05:32:27] <exec> └─ 13G-Cans Project, Kasukabe, Saitama, Greater Tokyo Area - Water Technology
[05:32:41] <crutchy_> maybe they just like storing things
[05:36:51] <crutchy_> /invite ciri
[05:36:54] <crutchy_> ciri++
[05:36:54] <Bender> karma - ciri: -9
[05:41:17] <JamesNZ> magit++
[05:41:17] <Bender> karma - magit: 3
[05:43:02] <arti> "How Releases are Formed"
[05:43:07] <arti> #colon
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[06:11:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
[06:11:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey, everybody!
[06:12:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Hows it hangin'?
[06:13:30] <chromas> Swingin' to the rhythm of the new world order
[06:13:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Pfft.
[06:14:12] * chromas dangles in the breeze
[06:20:10] <Ethanol-fueled> better start blocking these ivv4mcasts.
[06:21:55] <crutchy_> !grab chromas
[06:21:55] <Bender> Added quote 541
[06:22:03] <crutchy_> that's a nice quote
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[07:17:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flexible 'Skin-like' Colour Display Developed - http://sylnt.us - where'd-he-go
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[07:39:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Sup fellas.
[07:40:21] <SirFinkus> hey ef
[07:40:37] * SirFinkus just discovered sour beers
[07:41:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[07:41:39] <SirFinkus> vanderghinste or some shit
[07:41:44] <SirFinkus> best beer i've ever had
[07:43:35] <Ethanol-fueled> the nastier, the better.
[07:44:12] <SirFinkus> nothing nasty about it
[07:44:30] <SirFinkus> provided you like sour
[07:45:00] <Ethanol-fueled> "sour" is a phrase that attracts only beer snobs. It's perjorative in every other context.
[07:45:25] <SirFinkus> sourdough bread is pretty good
[07:45:38] <Ethanol-fueled> If you like sourdough.
[07:45:50] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm under DDos attack right now.
[07:45:54] <SirFinkus> sourdough kicks ass
[07:46:19] <Ethanol-fueled> It's allright. I prefer heavily seeded wheats.
[07:46:30] <SirFinkus> those are great too
[07:46:41] <SirFinkus> that daves killer bread shit is delicious
[07:48:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it is good.
[07:48:23] <SirFinkus> I use it to make bacon egg and cheese sandwiches
[07:50:18] * arti has seen it
[07:50:26] <SirFinkus> sourdough is more of a ham and swiss thing
[07:50:32] <Ethanol-fueled> get it. It's tasty.
[07:56:03] <SirFinkus> fuck, they don't have that sour at total wine
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[08:48:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lego Plans to Make Their Iconic Plastic Blocks … Without Plastic - http://sylnt.us - plastic-free-plastic....-what'll-they-think-of-next
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[08:52:48] <sneakyfox> SoylentNews is a great service. Thanks. But would you consider removing the "from the X-dept" from the Twitter feed? It really does become a nuisance when you see it over and over
[08:53:15] <arti> let the record state!
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[09:46:46] <Ethanol-fueled> There are big band-aids on my back, covering scabs.
[09:46:59] <Ethanol-fueled> I think they should be ripped off now.
[09:47:14] <Ethanol-fueled> AAAUUUUUUGH!
[09:48:33] <Ethanol-fueled> YUB NUB!
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[09:48:53] <JamesNZ> TMI.
[10:50:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Congress May Lower Beer Taxes, Sam Adams Could Cease to be "Craft Beer" - http://sylnt.us - the-other-brown-liquid-of-life
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[11:26:18] <crutchy_> ooh. i just realised i think exec can do per story comment feeds
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[12:24:32] * Bytram despises tracking URLs
[12:24:45] <Bytram> http://www.infowars.com
[12:24:48] <exec> └─ 13» Robot Bricklayer Can Build a Whole House in Two Days Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
[12:25:36] <Bytram> huh? there *was* a huge trail of other gibberish in the link when I first loaded that url!
[12:25:59] <Bytram> doh. wrong url!
[12:26:01] <Bytram> http://www.perthnow.com.au
[12:27:00] * Bytram thinks he confused exec
[12:27:06] <Bytram> crutchy: ^^^
[12:27:11] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:27:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1466
[12:27:12] <Bytram> ~uid
[12:27:15] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5596, owned by sneakyfox
[12:27:24] <Bytram> !uid
[12:27:24] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5596, owned by sneakyfox
[12:27:34] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:27:36] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 63°F, partly cloudy, wind SE at 2 mph, humidity 78% - Saturday mostly cloudy (59°F-70°F), Sunday heavy rain (57°F-65°F), Monday mostly cloudy (60°F-75°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (66°F-79°F)
[12:27:38] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:27:39] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 63°F, partly cloudy, wind N at 4 mph, humidity 70% - Saturday partly cloudy (55°F-69°F), Sunday heavy rain (52°F-59°F), Monday partly cloudy (56°F-74°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (60°F-75°F)
[12:27:41] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:27:43] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 50°F, fog, wind W at 0 mph, humidity 88% - Saturday mostly sunny (51°F-74°F), Sunday scattered showers (49°F-62°F), Monday showers (49°F-62°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (57°F-80°F)
[12:32:43] <Bytram> afk
[12:51:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Start a Time Bank - http://sylnt.us - immortality-here-i-come
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[13:32:22] <crutchy_> hi Bytram
[13:33:26] <crutchy_> not sure why some urls aren't picked up. my best guess is that there are some conditions that cause the script to die silently
[13:33:48] <janrinok> hi crutchy_
[13:33:55] <crutchy_> hi janrinok
[13:34:56] <janrinok> how's things?
[13:35:32] <crutchy_> got an annoying dry cough, but otherwise not too bad
[13:35:36] <crutchy_> yourself?
[13:36:14] <janrinok> I'm good - Bytram and I are just being silly on #editorial
[13:36:21] <crutchy_> ah
[13:36:38] * crutchy_ opens log
[13:38:55] * Bytram offers crutchy an axe
[13:39:50] <crutchy_> there are a few tweaks that could improve exec's title script. it follows location headers, but doesn't yet do http-equiv meta redirects
[13:40:26] <janrinok> if I knew what that meant - I would probably nod sagely
[13:40:28] <crutchy_> it handles tracking cookies, but i haven't done much testing so i'm not sure how well
[13:41:47] <Bytram> looks like I found you a nice test case, then!
[13:41:58] <Bytram> gtg, but will check back in
[13:41:58] <Bytram> afk
[13:42:40] <crutchy_> it also sorta does auto language translation :)
[13:42:54] <crutchy_> (well, as good as what google translate can 0526+263.5+
[13:44:32] <janrinok> I'm quite impressed by google translate - it makes something readable if not perfect
[13:45:18] <janrinok> well, more readable than those Japenese/English instruction guides that you used to get with appliances
[13:50:26] <Bytram> ugh.
[13:50:29] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[13:50:33] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | How often do you read a story's "from the something-something dept." line?
[13:50:40] <Bytram> I put up a new poll and it looks like it might be busted?
[13:50:59] <Bytram> I already voted; can someone else try and reproduce this bug?
[13:51:09] <janrinok> just looking
[13:51:16] <Bytram> nodnod
[13:51:34] <janrinok> works fine for me
[13:51:42] <Bytram> hrm
[13:51:56] <janrinok> ah, no, it didn't record my vote
[13:52:03] <Bytram> I had trouble writing the poll; text within double-quotes got deleted
[13:52:16] * Bytram goes to refresh results
[13:52:34] <janrinok> that might be the XSS filters that paulej72 and tmb were working on?
[13:52:41] <Bytram> could be
[13:52:52] <Bytram> Well, there were 2 votes, and now there are 3
[13:53:02] <Bytram> which choice did u vote for?
[13:53:05] <Bytram> I did the 50%
[13:53:18] <janrinok> It tells me that I have already voted, but hasn't increased the bar display to show my vote
[13:53:32] <Bytram> I see that the <10% and can't ignore anymore votes are also cast
[13:53:44] <Bytram> which on e did you vote for?
[13:53:44] <janrinok> only 3 votes displayed and registered - that was the same before I voted
[13:53:48] <janrinok> 90%
[13:53:50] <Bytram> interesting!
[13:54:19] <Bytram> wait a sec... I thought I could vote multiple times before!
[13:54:31] <janrinok> no - once you have voted that is it.
[13:54:40] <Bytram> k
[13:54:41] <janrinok> not sure about ACs though
[13:55:07] <Bytram> can ACs even SEE the poll?
[13:55:16] * Bytram tries to launch lynx
[13:55:17] <janrinok> don't know - I've never looked
[13:56:22] <Bytram> bah, my AV program is installing updates and bringing things to a crawl
[13:56:29] <janrinok> lol
[13:56:46] * janrinok recognises another Windows user
[13:56:59] <Bytram> yeh; liking it less and less these days.
[13:57:24] <Bytram> I've got a gazillion batch programs to convert, but it's seeming more and more worth the effort these days!
[13:57:46] <janrinok> I'm 95% linux but keep 1 machine with Win 7 because I can't get my GPS to update without having the .net framework installed!
[13:58:40] * Bytram reloads poll results
[13:58:54] * Bytram sees total vote count is 3
[13:59:11] * Bytram votes as an AC for 75%
[13:59:42] * Bytram sees message: "This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again."
[14:00:02] <Bytram> and... there's still only 3 votes
[14:00:15] <janrinok> yep - it am broked!
[14:00:27] <Bytram> that comment I linked to was submitted as an AC
[14:00:40] <Bytram> maybe only logged-in-users votes now work?
[14:00:53] <janrinok> I was logged in
[14:01:10] <janrinok> it didn't count mine but tells me that I have voted
[14:01:34] <janrinok> Is this the first poll since rehash?
[14:01:41] <Bytram> are you sure there was no error message?
[14:01:47] <janrinok> none that I saw
[14:01:49] <Bytram> try hiting 'back' in your browser
[14:01:59] <janrinok> that was pages away now!
[14:02:12] <Bytram> back back back
[14:02:21] * Bytram notes that sounds like a duck
[14:02:29] <janrinok> yeah - which tab? which screen? which computer?
[14:02:58] <Bytram> good question.
[14:03:08] <janrinok> it tells me I have voted - cannot vote again. Vote still not counted
[14:03:12] <Bytram> hmmm, I have an idea brb
[14:03:26] <Bytram> well, that's a bug.
[14:03:37] <Bytram> which choice did you vote for?
[14:03:41] <janrinok> 90%
[14:03:44] <Bytram> k
[14:03:59] <Bytram> I wonderr if it is related to having quoted text in the poll question?
[14:04:12] <janrinok> you mean - you broke it!
[14:04:59] <Bytram> how many times I gotta tell ya? I didn't *break* it -- it was already broke! I just found out *where*!!
[14:05:19] <janrinok> who typed the quoted text - I rest my case!
[14:05:42] <janrinok> the place for QA is on dev - you broke prod. I'm going to tell!
[14:05:43] <Bytram> I just caused the pre-existing bug to manifest! It was already there!
[14:06:29] <Bytram> interesting... there was only ONE double quote in the poll.
[14:06:55] * janrinok is sat at his computer laughing like the senile idiot he probably is!
[14:07:05] <Bytram> I just removed it and am previewing it now: how does this sound...
[14:07:05] <Bytram> How often do you read a story's: from the something-something dept.?
[14:07:16] <Bytram> ugh.
[14:07:30] <Bytram> How often do you read a story's dept. line?
[14:07:42] <Bytram> I like that better
[14:07:49] <janrinok> no, to be fair, it should accept the quotes, but I suspect it got borked by the XSS changes that were made
[14:07:56] <Bytram> understood
[14:08:16] <crutchy_> i read them in irc when bender spits them out, but i go straight for comments on the website
[14:08:18] <Bytram> I had "stuff" and on preview everything within the quotes as well as the quotes were removed.
[14:08:20] <janrinok> but, as those changes were more important than the poll, I can live with this bug
[14:08:52] <Bytram> so I tried using &quot; for each of them instead; looked find on preview, but then previewed again and the quoted-text and the quotes again disappeared
[14:09:07] * Bytram clicks update
[14:09:24] <Bytram> ummm, clicks 'save'
[14:10:55] <janrinok> haven't you got things to do in RL?
[14:11:32] <crutchy_> RL is overrated. too full of work and stress
[14:11:55] <crutchy_> family is the only thing left in RL
[14:16:02] <Bytram> I made another try at voting as an AC...
[14:16:12] <janrinok> and ?
[14:16:19] <Bytram> I had updated the poll question; and here's the new question and the error message:
[14:16:21] <Bytram> How often do you read a story's dept. line?
[14:16:21] <Bytram> This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.
[14:17:15] <janrinok> well I can get to the page, but of course cannot participate in the poll again
[14:18:42] <Bytram> okay, I used another nick and was able to vote, this time I voted for '75%'
[14:19:02] <janrinok> that registered OK
[14:19:04] <Bytram> and the vote total is now 4
[14:19:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:19:25] <janrinok> but the first 3 were, presumably, with the old title?
[14:19:31] <Bytram> current hypothesis: AC's cannot vote in poll.
[14:19:35] <Bytram> yes
[14:20:50] <janrinok> so that is unlikely to be the cause of the problem - or, at least, it wasn't for the first 3
[14:22:15] <Bytram> agreed
[14:22:28] <janrinok> the cisco story has 'Broken' - as in Breaking News
[14:22:52] <Bytram> mourning has broken ...
[14:23:02] <Bytram> with apologies to cat stevens
[14:23:29] <janrinok> I've forgotten what he changed his name to - achmed, mohammed, ishmail...?
[14:24:05] <janrinok> Yusuf Islam
[14:24:21] <Bytram> I'd forgotten about that!
[14:24:30] <janrinok> formerly Steven Demetre Georgiou
[14:24:38] <Bytram> I have a friend who dated him for a while!
[14:25:21] <Bytram> apparently was more interesting to be in a relationship with a performer than with that particular one; didn't last all that long, IIRC
[14:26:15] <janrinok> inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame in 2014 - didn't know that...
[14:26:29] <Bytram> Huh! The confirmation of my last vote was a little strange:
[14:26:44] <Bytram> "Your vote (5) has been registered."
[14:26:54] <Bytram> looks like we are missing a lookup there.
[14:27:38] <janrinok> I'm not speaking to Poll - because it's not speaking to me!
[14:28:32] <Bytram> Now THAT is strange!
[14:28:47] <Bytram> I just logged off of my Lynx session and thought, what the heck?
[14:28:55] <Bytram> tried to vote in the poll, and it worked!
[14:29:09] <Bytram> well, at least it said it did: "Your vote (8) has been registered."
[14:29:38] * Bytram reloads poll resultspage
[14:30:09] <Bytram> now there are 6 total votes
[14:33:19] <Bytram> well, at least it said it did: "Your vote (8) has been registered."
[14:33:33] <Bytram> hmmm, now to find out where Lynx keeps its cookies
[14:42:47] <Bytram> okay, cookie deleted... load lynxii again.
[14:42:51] <Bytram> votes
[14:42:57] <Bytram> submit vote
[14:43:09] <Bytram> "This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again."
[14:43:34] <Bytram> can't vote as an AC when I don't have a cookie set
[14:43:45] <janrinok> that makes sense
[14:44:38] * Bytram tries again, this time logging in without allowing a cookie
[14:45:09] <Bytram> login did not work
[14:45:49] * Bytram logs in allowing a cookie
[14:45:55] <janrinok> gtg - time to start preparing an evening meal
[14:46:10] janrinok is now known as janrinok|afk
[14:46:13] <Bytram> says I've already voted.
[14:46:17] <Bytram> yeah, same here
[14:46:19] <janrinok|afk> which you hve
[14:46:22] <Bytram> nice chatting with ya!
[14:46:29] <Bytram> specially the alliterative story!
[14:46:30] <janrinok|afk> and u - prob cu later
[14:46:34] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:46:44] <janrinok|afk> take care
[14:46:45] <Bytram> give my best to S
[14:46:50] <janrinok|afk> will do - thx
[14:46:57] <Bytram> ciao for now
[14:47:11] <janrinok|afk> S says 'hello' back!
[14:47:41] <Bytram> ahhh, just made my day!
[14:47:46] <janrinok|afk> :)
[14:47:48] <Bytram> laters!
[14:47:52] <janrinok|afk> laters
[14:53:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cisco Security Appliances Found to have Default SSH Keys - http://sylnt.us - "security"-appliance
[16:55:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hadrian the Robot Bricklayer Can Build a Whole House in Two Days - http://sylnt.us - how-about-a-nice-game-of-breakout?
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[18:26:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why is Google Opening a New Data Center in a Former Coal-Fired Power Plant? - http://sylnt.us - because-it's-cheaper?
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[19:26:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NIST Revises Key Computer Security Publication on Random Number Generation - http://sylnt.us - I've-been-waiting-5,9,1,2,1,8-days-for-this
[20:24:50] <arti> http://www.cnn.com
[20:24:52] <exec> └─ 13Over 225 injured in explosion at Taiwan water park - CNN.com - 03http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/27/asia/taiwan-water-park-explosion/index.html?sr=fb062715taiwanwaterparkexplosion1pStoryLink
[21:28:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Binary Blob Banished By Berated Browser's Better Build (Chromium) - http://sylnt.us - did-not-want
[21:29:35] <arti> excellent title
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[23:04:10] <arti> http://peepmyeats.com
[23:04:12] <exec> └─ 13Deep Fried Big Mac!  | peepmyeats
[23:12:58] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[23:13:00] <exec> └─ 13Crowd gets set on fire at Taiwanese water park concert - YouTube
[23:30:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Japanese Billionaire Plans to Invest $20 Billion in Indian Solar Power - http://sylnt.us - brilliant-idea
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