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[00:21:44] <SpallsHurgenson> My voice is my passport. Verify Me.
[00:32:10] <Landon> bzzzzt
[00:32:14] <Landon> /kick SpallsHurgenson
[00:32:37] <SpallsHurgenson> <chuckle>
[00:40:59] * SpallsHurgenson works at creating his very own Gwent deck of cards
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[00:52:31] <arti> greetings alberto
[00:55:37] <bet0x> hi arti
[00:55:39] <bet0x> how are you!
[00:55:45] <bet0x> o/ all!
[00:55:55] <arti> scoping out this page: https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:55:59] <exec> └─ 13Automatic summarization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[00:56:20] <bet0x> i'm with Subsentient updating a old piece of software and reading this https://kore.io
[00:56:21] <bet0x> :D
[00:57:58] <arti> "Kore is an easy to use web application framework for writing scalable web APIs in C."
[00:59:45] <arti> cool
[01:00:36] <bet0x> seems nice
[01:00:41] <bet0x> but i prefer KISS from Subsentient
[01:01:00] <chromas> !grab bet0x
[01:01:00] <Bender> Added quote 542
[01:01:00] <arti> kiss is another framework?
[01:01:22] <bet0x> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:01:25] <exec> └─ 13KISS principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[01:01:38] <arti> i'm aware of that but you said KISS from Subsentient
[01:01:49] <bet0x> =D
[01:02:14] <bet0x> his kiss principle
[01:02:30] <bet0x> at least i can read his code, i saw some "kiss principle" code wich was plain crap
[01:02:31] <bet0x> :P
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[01:03:13] <arti> well, i'm glad you've taken it to heart
[01:03:33] * SpallsHurgenson sings, "God gave rock'n'roll to you, gave rock'n'roll to you , gave rock'n'roll to everyone"
[01:03:57] <bet0x> crutchyz0r
[01:04:07] <bet0x> crutchy, exec didn't work yesterday
[01:04:12] <bet0x> exec, report!
[01:04:15] <crutchy_> how the hell are there westerners still stupid enough to go holidaying in jihad central?
[01:04:38] <bet0x> crutchy_, hahahahaha
[01:04:49] <crutchy_> as much as tunisia was nasty, what the fuck else did they really expect?
[01:05:14] <crutchy_> some people just have rocks in their heads
[01:05:15] <arti> i read about the guy who took 3 bullets
[01:05:31] <arti> crutchy, i bet the prices were super reasonable
[01:05:58] <bet0x> crutchy_, there is a lot of australians joining isis
[01:06:09] <crutchy_> "hmm lets go on a holiday. where shall we go? oh i know lets go to a place that has just recently undergone a violent revolution"
[01:06:49] <crutchy_> there are plenty of dumb shit aussies too. such as the ones occupying our parliament
[01:07:27] <chromas> And our irc
[01:07:34] <chromas> Oops
[01:07:46] <crutchy_> yeah those are the worse :p
[01:07:47] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe they were on a holy pilgrimage to see the boyhood of Luke Skywalker
[01:08:11] <crutchy_> at least that would make some ounce of sense
[01:09:57] <crutchy_> that fire in taiwan looked pretty horrible
[01:10:07] <crutchy_> dust explosions are scary
[01:10:46] <arti> did you see the video?
[01:10:58] <crutchy_> yeah
[01:11:24] * crutchy_ wonders how long it will take for youtube to remove it
[01:11:53] <crutchy_> hasnt appeared in google news yet
[01:12:17] <crutchy_> all the top stories are about tuurists
[01:12:35] <SpallsHurgenson> its not really news until it affects a 'Merkin
[01:13:10] <crutchy_> or an oilfield in bumfuckistan
[01:13:43] <arti> nah our news is about flags and fabulous atm
[01:14:03] <arti> monsanto and tpp be like "look over there!"
[01:14:37] * SpallsHurgenson looks
[01:14:56] * crutchy_ looks too
[01:15:09] <crutchy_> damn earth is in the way
[01:15:47] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, let me get my Q36 Immodium Space Modulator and we'll fix that...
[01:17:17] <crutchy_> immodium is a bowl treatment in australia
[01:17:36] <Bytram> crutchy: s/bowl/bowel/
[01:17:39] <SpallsHurgenson> does the treatment involve an earth-shattering kaboom?
[01:18:01] <crutchy_> Bytram, that's bowlist! :D
[01:18:22] <crutchy_> dunno. i never had anything nasty enough to need immodium
[01:19:07] <crutchy_> hmm apparently the drug only has one 'm'
[01:20:28] * crutchy_ watched robocop last night, but was disgusted that it wasn't the original
[01:20:58] <crutchy_> hollywood just cant leave the classics alone can they
[01:20:58] <arti> did it have dick shooting in it?
[01:21:32] <crutchy_> it didn't. or maybe they saved it for the directors cut
[01:21:53] * crutchy_ misses 80's female hairdos
[01:22:41] * crutchy_ remembers when slap bands were the shit
[01:23:08] <arti> did they outlaw them there too?
[01:23:17] <arti> them thar!
[01:24:01] <SpallsHurgenson> that was the 90s!
[01:24:02] <crutchy_> hut deggedy theys just gowt left beehaand
[01:24:14] <crutchy_> was late 80's here
[01:24:24] <crutchy_> i was in primary skewel
[01:25:26] <SpallsHurgenson> me too... man, those first twelve years of kindygarten were great, weren't they? :)
[01:27:04] <crutchy_> i remember wanting to finish school so bad. now i wish i could go back to school (well, uni)
[01:27:18] * crutchy_ wants to do some moar study
[01:27:25] <crutchy_> maybe CS or summin
[01:27:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't remember school in the '80s all that well
[01:28:56] <crutchy_> i dont remember much of school, except little bits. i remember there was an apple tree on the way to school that me and a bunch of other kids from the court where i lived used to stop at when we were walking home. used to climb to the top and eat apples
[01:30:12] <arti> had a pear tree on my home route
[01:30:14] <crutchy_> i still see that tree when i go for a drive around there (my parents still live in the same town)
[01:30:17] <arti> many pears were had
[01:31:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bitmap All the Things - http://sylnt.us - all-your-bits-Я-belong-to-us
[01:31:50] * crutchy_ has been thinking a bit lately about what i might do if/when the global economy takes the next big shit all over itself
[01:32:04] <crutchy_> if it really takes a dive like some are predicting
[01:32:34] <crutchy_> massive job loss, food shortages, failure of infrastructure, all that
[01:33:10] <crutchy_> i'll prolly go live on my parents farm and help them grow food. they have a natural fresh water spring
[01:33:30] <crutchy_> away from majority of people
[01:33:31] <chromas> Damn robots, terkin' er jerbz
[01:34:06] <crutchy_> if it happens, i think it will be more related to the value of currency. people wont work if what they're being paid doesn't buy anything
[01:35:25] <crutchy_> most currencies are fiat, including australia's
[01:35:37] <arti> we'll switch to funny pictures
[01:35:47] <SpallsHurgenson> Fiat is Italy's currency :)
[01:35:56] <crutchy_> everything would go back to bartering goods
[01:36:23] <crutchy_> hopefully it doesn't get to that, but lately i'm a bit pessimistic about world affairs :/
[01:36:47] * crutchy_ blames rupert murdoch
[01:37:05] <crutchy_> its all the news' fault
[01:37:14] * chromas also blames the aussies
[01:37:36] <crutchy_> yeah those guys are real bastards
[01:38:17] <chromas> Rupert Murdoch, Ken Ham and Mick Dundee. The unholy trinity
[01:38:30] <crutchy_> ken ham?
[01:39:04] <crutchy_> haha. at least all our whack jobs move to america
[01:39:15] <crutchy_> never heard of ken ham before just now
[01:39:48] cmn32480|afk is now known as cmn32480
[01:41:35] <crutchy_> http://tvnz.co.nz
[01:41:36] <exec> └─ 13Sandstorm and earthquake strike Egypt on the same day - World News | TVNZ
[01:42:28] <crutchy_> ermagerd! it must be that bible thingy that the jehova's witnesses predicted!
[01:42:58] <SpallsHurgenson> are there any locusts?
[01:43:00] <arti> It's just a method of cleaning
[01:43:06] <arti> sandblasting and shaking
[01:43:34] <crutchy_> bah. they just need some good ol' fashioned acid rain
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[01:49:16] <crutchy_> http://news.google.com.au
[01:49:18] <exec> └─ 13Redirect Notice - 03http://www.google.com.au/url?sr=1&ct2=us/1_0_s_0_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNGl0hYnJuQ59UsraFv1HVoilJpBpA&cid=52778885692391&url
[01:49:26] <crutchy_> woopsies
[01:49:30] <crutchy_> fucking google
[01:49:58] * crutchy_ really needs to build in those meta redirect thingys
[01:58:45] <SpallsHurgenson> there's an addon for firefox that strips out the google-crap from search-results, leaving you with just the plain URL. Highly recommended :)
[02:07:50] <cmn32480> I knew who the first guy to die in Jurassic World was gonna be.
[02:07:56] <cmn32480> he had a red shirt on.
[02:08:03] <paulej72> lol
[02:08:36] <cmn32480> makes perfect sense when you think about it
[02:08:48] <arti> because star trek?
[02:09:45] <cmn32480> duh? arti
[02:11:54] <arti> oh i forgot you're a legend in your own mind.
[02:12:16] <arti> time to up your thorazine dose.
[02:12:52] <cmn32480> I am.
[02:13:01] <cmn32480> thankfully, my kids think so too
[02:13:24] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Thorazine?"
[02:13:27] <cmn32480> and that is what is really important
[02:14:30] * crutchy_ doesn't remember who died in jurassic world first
[02:14:46] <crutchy_> took forever to get going though
[02:15:01] <crutchy_> was it the raptor handler guy?
[02:15:11] <arti> it was the lousy security guard
[02:15:12] <cmn32480> Owen, the fat security guy, and a guy in coveralls with a red shirt go into the paddock
[02:16:04] <cmn32480> red shirt was first to die
[02:16:06] <cmn32480> shocker
[02:16:28] * crutchy_ thought the hamster balls would have been stronger than they turned out to be. the glass wasn't even filmed to prevent shattering
[02:17:14] <cmn32480> if the glass wasn't filmed, how did they get it on the screen?
[02:17:36] <arti> meh it was left wide open for another
[02:18:00] <cmn32480> of course.
[02:18:06] <crutchy_> i don't know... eeeeeeeheeheeheeew eeeeeeeeeeeheeeheeeheeeeew. i'm running. i'm running eeeeeeeeiiii
[02:18:13] <arti> in the first movie the trex was chasing them in a jeep
[02:18:14] <cmn32480> why leave a known money making franchise with no way to make another
[02:18:45] <cmn32480> I think the homage they paid to the original move was well done
[02:18:48] <cmn32480> the gates
[02:18:54] <cmn32480> the original jeeps
[02:18:56] <crutchy_> now they just need alien vs jurassic park
[02:19:01] <arti> it's the original island...
[02:19:19] <cmn32480> the banner that flutters down at the end of the first movie
[02:19:43] <cmn32480> yes, but they coudl have said it was leveled byt the military and they had to start over
[02:20:00] <arti> private pyle plays the military guy
[02:20:10] <cmn32480> yup
[02:20:22] <cmn32480> vincent dinofrio... also from some law and order
[02:20:26] <cmn32480> spin off
[02:20:28] * crutchy_ 's heart beats faster imagining ripley tearing out the tongue of a velociraptor with her bare hands
[02:20:37] <arti> ripley was such a great strong woman character
[02:20:58] <arti> i read somewhere they screwed with her in the loader
[02:21:09] <arti> it was a guy in a suit, she was strapped to the front, kinda like a baby harness
[02:21:13] <arti> cmn will be familiar with these
[02:21:48] <crutchy_> oh man how do i get to ride in a baby harness. walking is for chumps
[02:21:53] <arti> they inflated a bladder so it would poke her in the rear, and she'd mistakenly think it was the guy in the suit
[02:22:31] <crutchy_> i like the hishe vid for aliens
[02:22:42] <crutchy_> "it's mostly dead now... mostly"
[02:22:44] <cmn32480> I never heard that arti
[02:22:46] <arti> it's all about the child leash
[02:23:49] <crutchy_> that suit guy sounds lucky. who wouldn't want the job of poking ripley in the rear?
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[02:24:26] <cmn32480> at the time, sigourney weaver was quite the piece
[02:24:36] <paulej72> the guy who gets his dick chomped off by an alien in the nest sceen
[02:25:10] <crutchy_> there's a guy that gets his dick chomped off by an alien?!
[02:25:19] <crutchy_> why do i not remember this?
[02:25:45] <SpallsHurgenson> why is that something you would WANT to remember?
[02:26:09] <arti> because those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, or something
[02:26:14] <crutchy_> same reason why robocop shooting a guy in the dick is awesome
[02:26:33] <arti> paul_verhoeven
[02:26:35] <paulej72> no they never filmed it becuse no one wanted his dick chomped off
[02:26:35] <arti> paul_verhoeven++
[02:26:35] <Bender> karma - paul_verhoeven: 1
[02:26:47] <crutchy_> the more dicks get destroyed, the higher the pussy-to-dick ratio of the world
[02:27:11] <cmn32480> this world has plenty of dicks
[02:27:16] <cmn32480> and a lot of assholes too
[02:27:25] <crutchy_> yeah. too many dicks
[02:28:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I sense a Team America quote incoming...
[02:29:04] <arti> absolutely no mention of cunts?
[02:29:24] <crutchy_> though now that gay marriage is constitutional (not that the constitution means much nowadays anyway) hopefully there will be many more dicks fucking assholes, leaving more vacant pussies
[02:29:26] <arti> http://tvtropes.org
[02:29:29] <exec> └─ 13Aliens / Trivia - TV Tropes
[02:29:49] <arti> i'm curious how gay divorse court will work
[02:30:01] <paulej72> nope, those pussies are all into cunts
[02:30:02] <arti> when there is a domestic dispute, will both males be thrown in jail?
[02:30:21] <crutchy_> they'll just be shot
[02:30:23] <crutchy_> on site
[02:30:28] <paulej72> arti: only the butch
[02:31:05] <cmn32480> arti - they were doing it before gay marraige was 100% legal
[02:31:09] <crutchy_> wont be long now and SWAT will be called to every domestic and the entire house will be leveled with all occupants still inside
[02:31:23] <cmn32480> there is no change to the ratio
[02:31:48] <cmn32480> and in all honesty, I don't care if gay marriage is legal.
[02:31:55] <crutchy_> same here
[02:32:00] <cmn32480> they deserve to be as unhappy as the rest of us
[02:32:11] * arti is more focused on Gay Divorse court tv
[02:32:27] <crutchy_> government has no business fucking with marriage at all
[02:32:34] <crutchy_> marriage is a religious thing
[02:32:37] <arti> pffft
[02:32:38] <cmn32480> my problem is that the Supreme Court just legislated from the bench, as judges have made a pretty rotten habit of doing for the last few decades
[02:33:12] <arti> so in a nutshell they're doing #defines :D
[02:34:00] <crutchy_> cmn32480, i think they're just interpreting laws that have already been passed. you have to pass a bill to find out what's in it
[02:34:05] <arti> lol
[02:34:12] <arti> "what's the program do?" "run it!"
[02:34:13] <cmn32480> yes and no
[02:34:31] <arti> ---^ quantum state.
[02:34:56] <crutchy_> a lot of people argue that the constitution doesn't give congress the authority to prevent gay marriage
[02:34:56] <cmn32480> they took what shoudl be a states rights issue, and created law that makes this legal when there is no federal law to interpret, as I understand thing
[02:34:57] <cmn32480> s
[02:35:24] <cmn32480> precisely cruthcy_
[02:35:46] <arti> fabulous.
[02:35:58] <crutchy_> totally
[02:36:21] <paulej72> no the 14 admendment clearly gives them the power to make marrage equal.
[02:36:39] <crutchy_> <tama> my ass is brown
[02:36:42] <crutchy_> lol
[02:36:56] <cmn32480> excellent. so my CCW is now legal in all 50 states as well.
[02:37:11] <crutchy_> ccw?
[02:37:15] <paulej72> counter clock wise
[02:37:21] <cmn32480> Conceal and Carry Weapon
[02:37:37] <crutchy_> ah. aussies don't know much about such things
[02:37:47] <paulej72> I figured that out just as you posted
[02:38:17] <cmn32480> right
[02:38:32] <cmn32480> you all voted a few years back to turn in all your guns if I remember correctly
[02:39:16] <arti> something that was kind of alarming about that was the homicide rate spiked after that
[02:39:39] <paulej72> I hate to be them Aussies when they piss of the US, no guns to fight with
[02:40:10] <cmn32480> forget pissing off the US... I'd be more worried about China
[02:40:15] <crutchy_> we're already a province of china
[02:40:22] <paulej72> ^^^^
[02:40:26] * arti pokes crutchy for more coal
[02:40:28] <cmn32480> same here
[02:40:39] <crutchy_> if anyone fucks with australia, the chinese will fuck them up just to protect their resources
[02:40:58] <paulej72> not if they approve the fight
[02:41:13] <crutchy_> if china attacks australia, we're fucked
[02:41:23] <arti> you're part of five eyes
[02:41:26] <arti> bro network
[02:41:34] <paulej72> CHINA: Hey US, Austrialia is being a prick, can you do somehting about it
[02:42:03] <arti> how would china get over to you? make a giant bridge like ants?
[02:42:22] <cmn32480> they'd use their really big junk
[02:42:24] <paulej72> cargo containers full of troops
[02:42:28] <arti> lol
[02:42:30] <crutchy_> fortunately australia isn't likely to ever do anything to piss either china or the US off enough for them to bother attacking. our politicians are spineless chickenhawks
[02:42:40] <arti> speaking of shipping, it's crazy how cheap it is
[02:43:13] <crutchy_> and also fortunately for us, attacking our mainland would be a huge exercise in wasted effort on the part of the attackers
[02:43:34] <cmn32480> what, you mean that big empty part in the middle?
[02:43:43] <crutchy_> you could nuke melbourne and sydney, but that's a long way off "taking the country"
[02:43:46] <paulej72> So I needed a battery replaced in my watch so I got to Macy's where it was purchsed. They say they send watches out for replacement and it takes 4 to 6 weeks
[02:44:08] <arti> sure it wasn't just the dude being lazy in the back?
[02:44:28] <paulej72> walked acoss the mall to the watch store and they did it in 10 minutes
[02:44:37] <arti> be funny if they said 4-6 minutes
[02:44:43] <cmn32480> depending on the brand... most watch store will do it for a VERY small fee + the cost of the battery
[02:44:44] <arti> "i'd time you but..."
[02:45:39] <cmn32480> rebooting the firewall remotely is always a good idea, right?
[02:45:40] <paulej72> more than just the cost of the battery as I requested the servide to maintain the water resitance
[02:46:11] <crutchy_> china prolly already has a tunnel between china and australia, under the south china sea
[02:46:24] <paulej72> cmn32480: as long as you got terminal connection that is not connected via the router
[02:46:31] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[02:46:33] <exec> └─ 13The Little Mermaid - Under the Sea - YouTube
[02:46:35] <cmn32480> it leads to that big empty spapce in the middle
[02:46:44] <crutchy_> that
[02:46:50] <crutchy_> s the part they care about
[02:46:51] <cmn32480> nah... why woudl I do that paulej72?
[02:47:02] <cmn32480> all the mineral wealth?
[02:47:13] <crutchy_> the uranium mines are in the middle
[02:47:26] <cmn32480> ahhhh I knew it was somethign
[02:48:19] <cmn32480> lord how I have tried to get redundant connections... they didn't wanna shell out the $250,000 in construction costs
[02:48:39] <crutchy_> "Of the world's proven estimated uranium reserves (5,404,000 tonnes), 31% are held in Australia (1,673,000 tonnes), ahead of the second largest, Kazakhstan (12.1% or 651,800 tonnes)"
[02:48:50] <paulej72> even a dial up line would be enough
[02:49:05] <cmn32480> yeah... I was thinking about that just now....
[02:49:13] <crutchy_> when nuking the entire would 10,000 times over just isn't enough
[02:49:27] <arti> "secure wipe"
[02:49:56] <cmn32480> hmmm... cna the Aussie's do that from orbit?
[02:50:13] <paulej72> Rambo has these explosive tipped arrows that are making some gigantic ass explosions
[02:50:30] <paulej72> no but China can
[02:50:37] <cmn32480> true
[02:50:42] <arti> China can!
[02:51:06] <cmn32480> I was still stuck on the gigantic ass explosions... visions of an overflowing sewage plant
[02:51:17] <crutchy_> we only have a pissy little nuclear installation at lucas heights
[02:51:59] <paulej72> well he just used on a Vietnameese Officer and he went all over the place
[02:52:02] <crutchy_> though i wouldn't be surprised if somewhere out in bumfuck west there is some sort of underground bunker full of nukes
[02:52:30] <cmn32480> i woudln't bet against that being the case crutchy_
[02:52:51] <paulej72> Now he is wrassling a Russian in a helecopter
[02:52:53] <crutchy_> australia is the perfect hiding place. full of underground mines in inhospitable places surrounded by thousands of miles of nothing
[02:53:34] <arti> http://www.mirror.co.uk
[02:53:36] <exec> └─ 13Maserati 'written off' after tin of paint splashes over plush interior when driver swerved to avoid dog - Mirror Online
[02:54:00] <arti> etcoplasm
[02:54:06] <cmn32480> I've been slimed!
[02:54:36] <paulej72> where are the picts
[02:54:49] <paulej72> picts or it didn't happen
[02:55:41] <paulej72> Don't worry the insruance company will make a killing on that car at the auction
[02:55:45] * cmn32480 wonders how long his firewall takes to come back up....
[02:56:12] <paulej72> cmn32480: its up it just will not let you in anymore
[02:56:20] <cmn32480> certainly possible
[02:56:30] <paulej72> been there done that.
[02:57:57] <cmn32480> oh site
[02:58:00] <paulej72> I once set the inittab file incorrectly on all of the nodes of beowulf cluster, rebooted the maches to broken hell. Had to manually connect to each one to fix. luckily it was only 40 nodes
[02:58:04] <cmn32480> *shit
[02:58:15] <cmn32480> WARNING: THIS DEVICE HAS BOOTED FROM THE BACKUP JUNOS IMAGE
[02:58:31] <paulej72> ok shit indeed
[02:59:05] <cmn32480> I just said all seven words you can't say on TV
[02:59:37] <cmn32480> now I have to remember my junos command line
[03:00:04] <cmn32480> I suppose a reload to see if it was a fluke isn't a bad idea.... nor a particularly good one.
[03:02:00] <cmn32480> bingo... at least I caan look at the config
[03:03:16] <crutchy_> cmn32480, your router isn't a cisco by any chance?
[03:03:22] <cmn32480> Juniper
[03:03:24] <crutchy_> the NSA has prolly taken over it
[03:03:45] <cmn32480> hopefully they will fix it so I don't ahve to
[03:04:17] <crutchy_> congratulations. your router has now joined the fight against turrism! they'll send you your badge of freedum in the mail
[03:05:46] <cmn32480> WOO HOOO!
[03:05:51] <cmn32480> an new merit badge!
[03:06:38] <Popeidol> if you let the NSA into your house, they become invested in your network staying up
[03:06:42] <Popeidol> it's a fair trade really
[03:07:42] <SpallsHurgenson> kitty is grunt-snoring
[03:07:43] <Popeidol> I'd probably let that happen if it meant never calling my ISP again
[03:07:48] <cmn32480> <houston - we have a problem>
[03:07:54] <cmn32480> me too
[03:08:48] * crutchy_ is watching a tinkerbelle movie
[03:09:06] <crutchy_> being a dad is awesome
[03:09:24] <cmn32480> best thign in the world crutchy_ :-)
[03:09:28] <paulej72> someone forgot to store the firewall config into the startup config?
[03:09:38] <cmn32480> nope... did that
[03:09:43] <cmn32480> ALWAYS do that
[03:09:50] <cmn32480> after I got bit the first time.....
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[03:11:41] <cmn32480> crutchy_ - yo are watching that with one or more of your kids, right?
[03:11:44] <paulej72> power cycled a switch once that had multiple ports grouped to the main switch, it did not work anymore. That is when the guy that set it up and I found out about sotoring to startup config
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[03:12:17] <paulej72> Ramob III is on now
[03:12:29] <cmn32480> First Blood: Part II
[03:12:41] <paulej72> Just finished.
[03:12:47] <cmn32480> I am a fountain of useless knowledge
[03:12:53] <cmn32480> some of it is even correct!
[03:12:55] <crutchy_> cmn32480, just throw it out the window and chuck an iptables script on an old pentium 2
[03:13:12] <cmn32480> if I was at the office, I might do just that
[03:13:21] <cmn32480> IPCop was a great little firewall
[03:13:25] <paulej72> yep. iptables runs my nats
[03:14:12] <cmn32480> I din't even know if it stille xists as an Open Source project or not
[03:14:49] <cmn32480> apparently it does stille xit
[03:14:57] <crutchy_> never tried that one. i tend to just use a little shell script
[03:15:12] <cmn32480> I was replaced by one of those once
[03:15:15] <crutchy_> there are some good howtos on the web
[03:15:44] <crutchy_> did you make the mistake of TQMing yourself out of a jerb?
[03:15:49] <cmn32480> last time I looked, shell scripts don't handle VPN's
[03:16:06] <cmn32480> yup automated myself into obsolescence
[03:16:24] <crutchy_> oh hehe i assumed ipcop was an iptables frontend or somthing
[03:16:33] <crutchy_> like shorewall and such n such
[03:17:23] <cmn32480> nope it is a "Secure linux disto that is designed to work as a firewall
[03:17:44] <cmn32480> on the upside, a reboot broguhgt me back to the correct version fo firmware
[03:17:59] * cmn32480 makes a note to upgrade the backup firmware to the correct version
[03:19:41] <crutchy_> engineering is being increasingly automated. hopefully there will always be a need for a little bit of human judgement
[03:19:50] <crutchy_> otherwise ima gunna be jerbless too
[03:20:54] <cmn32480> f**king windows
[03:21:34] <cmn32480> didn't save the default gateway on the exchange server. grrrrrrrrr
[03:21:41] <cmn32480> all this over that
[03:21:55] * crutchy_ shudders at the very mention of exchange
[03:22:10] * cmn32480 knocks on wood
[03:22:15] <crutchy_> didn't microsoft kill that yet?
[03:22:21] <cmn32480> my exchagne 2010 server has been rock solid
[03:22:39] <cmn32480> I spend about 30 min a month on it. adn that is to create/delete users
[03:23:49] <cmn32480> yay... email is flowing again
[03:23:56] <cmn32480> and the TS gateway is up
[03:24:04] <cmn32480> that mean I can go to bed
[03:24:10] * cmn32480 does the happy dance
[03:24:53] <cmn32480> I'm done.
[03:24:59] <cmn32480> Y'all ahve a good night
[03:25:12] <paulej72> night cmn32480
[03:25:15] <cmn32480> or a good morning, if you are crutchy_
[03:25:33] <cmn32480> night paulej72
[03:25:42] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|away
[03:26:25] * SpallsHurgenson mutters something disparaging about nipple hair
[03:26:58] <paulej72> women with nipple hair are freaks
[03:27:16] <paulej72> or Indian
[03:33:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Shows That Experiences, Not Things, Will Make You Happier - http://sylnt.us - what-is-happiness
[03:34:03] <SpallsHurgenson> what if I want to experience having more things?
[03:34:54] <paulej72> ━╤デ╦︻(▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿)
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[04:38:05] <crutchy_> .flip
[04:38:11] <crutchy_> :L
[04:41:24] <JamesNZ> paulej72: You scared him away, you big bully!
[04:41:58] <crutchy_> paulej72 scares me too
[04:42:17] <crutchy_> its the beard
[04:42:48] <JamesNZ> Be brave crutchy_.
[04:55:53] <crutchy_> if those pesky yanks put one foot on this island, the 101st dropbearborne will be there to meet them
[04:56:07] <arti> just launch dingo eggs at them
[04:56:32] <crutchy_> and babies
[04:57:13] <crutchy_> or dingos with babies
[04:57:22] <crutchy_> or dingoes with baby lasers
[04:59:41] <JamesNZ> Laser-roos?
[05:00:16] <crutchy_> i'm more of a delphi guy
[05:02:05] <crutchy_> https://www.youtube.com
[05:02:08] <exec> └─ 13Why you don't harass the Queen's Guard - YouTube
[05:02:09] <crutchy_> hehe
[05:25:52] <JamesNZ> "Well, that tourist was caught...off guard.." :P
[05:29:15] <arti> what a tool
[05:34:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Chief Wants to Watch, as Well as Listen and Read - http://sylnt.us - government-overreach-at-its-finest
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[07:20:59] <K_Benzoate> Anyone read about this, more than 1300 people have died in Pakistan from a heatwave.
[07:21:57] <K_Benzoate> Since weather is natural and most of them died because they were old, isn't that just natural causes?
[07:24:46] <chromas> It was an act of Allah. Insurance won't cover it
[07:30:09] <K_Benzoate> All is according to allah's will, including global warming.
[07:31:53] <crutchy_> its probably the new world order collaborating with the nazis on the darkside of the moon to reverse the earths magnetic poles
[07:32:11] <K_Benzoate> Or fossil fuels
[07:32:26] <crutchy_> nonbeliever!!!
[07:32:58] <K_Benzoate> I am absolutely haram
[07:33:41] <chromas> Or the harem
[07:33:50] * chromas peeks in
[07:36:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Open Source Project Grows and Prunes Trees into Furniture - http://sylnt.us - knot-bad!
[07:41:18] <crutchy_> 8008135++
[07:41:18] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 23
[08:10:42] <K_Benzoate> No harem, celibate for around six years
[08:13:04] <arti> didn't a bunch die in india too?
[08:13:14] <arti> france awhile back too
[08:13:27] <K_Benzoate> It's just old people and sick kids.
[08:13:47] <K_Benzoate> People close to dying anyway
[08:15:15] <K_Benzoate> We're all going to die one day. Might be a bit of bad weather that puts us over the edge.
[08:16:52] <arti> lol
[08:16:59] <arti> http://img.fark.net
[08:17:15] <arti> "Someone Tweeted"
[08:20:31] <crutchy_> on its own, being celibate is easy. the real challenge is being celibate with a bunch of naked hot chicks around with tits and ass hanging out all over the place and begging you for a fuck
[08:23:37] <K_Benzoate> Nah, that was easy too. I went to college
[08:24:46] <crutchy_> if only i did liberal arts at uni. the chicks in those courses prolly put out more than chicks in engineering
[08:24:56] <crutchy_> the whole 2 of them :/
[08:25:50] <K_Benzoate> I did robotics club in highschool and biology in uni. The girls there were very rare, but very slutty
[08:26:46] <crutchy_> what made it even worse is that they stuck the aero geeks way out in our own little campus in the middle of a boeing factory
[08:27:06] <crutchy_> (in port melbourne)
[08:29:37] <K_Benzoate> Boeing factory in Oz?
[08:31:18] <crutchy_> yup
[08:52:56] <crutchy_> used to be able to hear the autoclave while i was in lectures
[08:56:57] <crutchy_> holy crap. its changed a bit
[08:56:59] <crutchy_> https://www.google.com.au!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5oni2dgw489ZePemV2Y2jQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
[08:57:01] <exec> └─ 13Google Maps
[08:57:13] <arti> http://imgur.com
[08:57:15] <exec> └─ 13Jesus and the dinosaurs - GIF on Imgur
[08:57:35] <crutchy_> the big 787 shed used to be an old red brick building that housed the RMIT dept of aerospace engineering
[08:58:06] <crutchy_> there was a laneway that went into the complex
[08:58:35] <crutchy_> our one and only lecture theatre was upstairs inside the boeing shed on the right
[09:00:04] <arti> pretty cool
[09:02:07] <crutchy_> lots of stuff has changed in melbourne since i went to uni
[09:02:14] <crutchy_> hard to keep up
[09:04:29] <crutchy_> same everywhere i guess
[09:37:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Capture Google Login on Desktop to Break Into Android - http://sylnt.us - the-only-way-to-be-secure-is-not-to-network
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[09:39:09] <FatPhil> There should be a checkbox on a post to select "this is a sarcastic joke post", such that if someone later tries to moderate it, only Flamebait, Troll, Funny, and Insightful are permitted moderation options.
[09:39:35] <FatPhil> and Touche
[09:39:58] <iJeejah> Can everyone see this?
[09:41:18] <iJeejah> Can anyone?
[09:42:10] <FatPhil> yes
[09:42:29] <FatPhil> or no
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[09:47:07] <crutchy_> g'day iJeejah
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[11:39:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Dakota: The New "Silicon Valley" of Drones - http://sylnt.us - good-use-for-bad-lands
[11:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;weather
[11:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;reload
[11:53:04] <MrPlow> Reloaded
[11:53:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;weather
[11:53:06] <MrPlow> Today: Sunshine to start, then a few afternoon clouds. High near 85F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Partial cloudiness early, with scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. A few storms may be severe. High 88F. Winds WSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[11:53:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, not bad
[11:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:53:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1467
[12:13:10] <FatPhil> ;weather tallinn
[12:13:10] <MrPlow> Syntax: ;weather City, ST or ;weather zip code
[12:13:32] <FatPhil> tallinn is a city, you idiot bot
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[12:30:53] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v janrinok] by Imogen
[12:31:58] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:33:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, needs a state as well
[12:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[12:34:40] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: hi to you - a good fishing day here, how about where you are?
[12:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> really looking that way
[12:35:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm kind of slacking just now though. may head out in a bit.
[12:35:32] <janrinok> just take it easy - it's one of those days...
[12:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> may put it off and just go tomorrow morning instead of monkeying with rehash
[12:36:21] <janrinok> there, that's the first decision of the day made, it gets easier as the day goes on now :)
[12:36:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> since apache 2.4 appears to be a no-go still, it's looking like i'll be able to finish the dev vm and have it useful.
[12:36:51] <janrinok> you didn't really delete all of your hard work did you?
[12:36:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh heck no
[12:37:14] <janrinok> it was just a comment that I read on here then :
[12:37:16] <janrinok> :)
[12:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> was just a bit of hyperbole
[12:45:49] <crutchy_> ~weather tallinn
[12:45:50] <exec> 03Tallinn, Estonia - currently 17°C, mostly sunny, wind NW at 11 km/h, humidity 63% - Sunday clear (10°C-18°C), Monday mostly sunny (12°C-22°C), Tuesday showers (11°C-19°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (11°C-18°C)
[12:46:25] <crutchy_> where the hell is estonia?
[12:47:07] <crutchy_> ~weather tallinn, usa
[12:47:09] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[12:51:30] <janrinok> crutchy_: I am surprised at you. Tallinn is the capital of Estonia, a former soviet republic on the Baltic Coast.
[12:52:03] <crutchy_> russia hasn't annexed it yet so its not newsworthy :p
[12:52:48] <crutchy_> europe is full of pokey little countries that i dont know the names of
[12:53:28] <janrinok> :)
[12:54:05] <crutchy_> i have heard of lithuania, which i'm guessing is nearby
[12:55:30] <crutchy_> ~time crutchy
[12:55:32] <exec> Sunday, 28 June 2015 @ 10:55 pm GMT+10 - Melbourne VIC
[12:55:54] <crutchy_> better get some shuteye. gotta work tomorrow
[12:55:57] <crutchy_> cyas
[12:59:07] <janrinok> cheers crutchy_
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[13:02:25] <cmn32480|away> ~weather manheim, PA
[13:02:27] <exec> 03Manheim, PA, USA - currently 64°F / 18°C, cloudy, wind SW at 3 mph, humidity 84% - Sunday cloudy (55°F-73°F / 13°C-23°C), Monday mostly sunny (62°F-80°F / 17°C-27°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (66°F-85°F / 19°C-29°C), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (63°F-83°F / 17°C-28°C)
[13:02:37] <janrinok> hi cmn32480|away
[13:02:43] <cmn32480|away> hey janrinok
[13:02:45] <janrinok> or should that be cmn32480|away !!
[13:02:49] <cmn32480|away> just stopped in for a quick weather
[13:03:01] <janrinok> we've got plenty of weather - help yourself
[13:03:06] <cmn32480|away> heading out the door to the rennaissance Faire in PO
[13:03:14] <cmn32480|away> we had it last night too
[13:03:17] <janrinok> have a good one!
[13:03:25] <cmn32480|away> currently the wettest june on record and 2 more days to go
[13:03:53] <janrinok> we are in the middle of a heat wave - have some of our sunshine and I'll take some of your rain for my garden
[13:05:01] <cmn32480|away> even trade
[13:05:07] <cmn32480|away> but you have to take the humidity too
[13:05:12] <janrinok> done!
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[13:06:44] <janrinok> hi marco_trunks
[13:06:55] <marco_trunks> hi janrinok
[13:07:02] <janrinok> how's your day going?
[13:07:25] <marco_trunks> ok
[13:07:58] <marco_trunks> just looking for free/libre gaming news, other than that i havent done anything
[13:08:30] <janrinok> well, not much news on the site that fits that bill, but if you find some then we could sure use the sub :)
[13:09:00] <marco_trunks> well i didnt mean on soylent news
[13:09:05] <marco_trunks> ive been looking on the web in general
[13:09:15] <janrinok> I hoped not - otherwise you would be disappointed
[13:09:18] <marco_trunks> lol
[13:09:21] <cmn32480|away> [gotta run
[13:09:27] <cmn32480|away> have a good day janrinok !!
[13:09:31] <janrinok> cheers cmn32480|away have a good one too
[13:09:35] <cmn32480|away> we will
[13:09:41] <janrinok> best wishes to your family
[13:09:48] <cmn32480|away> I'll igve you all the juicy details wtomorrow
[13:09:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, that wouldn't be a bad nexus
[13:10:00] <janrinok> we are ahead of you TheMightyBuzzard
[13:10:10] <cmn32480|away> my family? that'd be a HORRIBLE nexus
[13:10:35] <cmn32480|away> like 5 visitors a week
[13:10:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> no way. it's like all the drama and it's not OUR problem.
[13:10:46] <janrinok> already looking at collecting stories like this - plenty on rss-bot but no-one seems to take them up
[13:11:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we need some hardcore gamers that wanna sub regular
[13:11:33] <cmn32480|away> ah yes... 3 yera old had bathroom accident. news at 11
[13:11:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> was it a funny bathroom accident?
[13:11:56] <janrinok> aren't they all?
[13:12:06] <cmn32480|away> nope. crying... pee on the floor... mad wife
[13:12:11] <cmn32480|away> not funny at all
[13:12:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if they're not happening to me, yeah.
[13:12:19] <janrinok> exactly
[13:12:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480|away, sounds pretty hilarious really.
[13:12:25] <cmn32480|away> thatnks guys
[13:12:28] <cmn32480|away> you'r swell
[13:12:32] * janrinok and cmn32480|away doesn't think it worth a nexus of its own
[13:12:43] <cmn32480|away> ok gotta run
[13:12:47] <cmn32480|away> wife is calling
[13:12:54] <cmn32480|away> bye themightybuzzard !!
[13:12:54] <janrinok> take a mop
[13:13:02] <cmn32480|away> heh
[13:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i got a perfectly good story about a friend's dad who just ALMOST made it to the toilet in mcdonalds. it exploded as he was pulling his pants down and he ended up shating the wall behind him.
[13:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> so he grabbed some tp and cleaned himself up and escaped, feeling somewhat bad for, the kid headed in with a mop
[13:15:39] <janrinok> I bet that cleared the restaraunt pretty quickly
[13:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly not but man i would not have wanted to be the kid with the mop
[13:16:31] <janrinok> yeah, just wasn't his day I suppose
[13:17:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> so far, knock on wood, i've always managed to at least be aimed at the bowl if i didn't quite manage to put butt to seat. had a few near misses though.
[13:18:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> think today me and the roomie are gonna take his kids out swimming in a lake. should be fun and sunburns for all.
[13:18:47] <janrinok> for me, not in public, but more than a few close calls at home. Once got caught short in the middle of nowhere when hiking with a few friends. Nobody to see for miles around. Squatted down and then another group of hikers walked past - where the hell did they come from?
[13:21:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh!
[13:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of gaming, thinking i may open my everquest emulator server up to the community sometime soon.
[13:26:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> really need to put more ram in it first though. can only run 6 or so zones on it at once right now.
[13:39:14] <janrinok> it sounds like a good idea - but, to be honest, you could be talking in Swahili for all that it means to me
[13:43:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> emulator for https://www.everquest.com
[13:44:03] <exec> └─ 13EverQuest - Home
[13:44:07] <janrinok> looking
[13:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically just a private-ish server
[13:44:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> only issue is my server doesn't really have enough ram right now to host more than half a dozen zones at once
[13:45:13] <janrinok> I'm going to have to try gaming some time - I haven't done so so far, but enough people do play so there must be something in it
[13:46:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a good way to get rid of any spare time you have lying around
[13:46:45] <janrinok> ah, that'll be why I haven't tried it so far then
[13:49:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> the up side is i been tweaking the server enough that you can kill an hour and actually make some noticeable progress
[13:49:41] <janrinok> is it text only?
[13:50:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> bloody thing started out where you'd spend months n months just getting to 50th level. can be done in a day or two now.
[13:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the finest 3d graphics 1999 had to offer.
[13:50:29] <janrinok> lol
[13:51:19] <janrinok> might have a computer that can cope with it then :) Plenty of 64bit 8 GB machines here, but none with any gaming graphics capability
[13:51:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'll play fine on an intel card
[13:52:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> even runs passably in wine
[13:52:09] <janrinok> is it OS-agnostic?
[13:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, winders only but like i said
[13:52:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i play it in wine myself, so i know it works.
[13:52:42] <janrinok> that limits me to 1 installed machine, but 3 VMs
[13:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically if your graphics are newer than 1999 era, they should play it. runs fine on linux if you can type wine eqgame.exe patchme but i have no idea about freebsd or the like
[13:54:38] <janrinok> that's OK, I'm mainly linux - 1 x win7 and 1 x PC-BSD, but 8 linux
[13:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. prolly run best on the win7 box but if you don't mind 30fps or so it can be done on linux as well.
[13:57:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> best bit is, the scripting can be, and largely is, done in perl.
[13:58:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> so rigging up funkyness is easy for me
[13:59:10] <janrinok> I haven't used perl in a long time - and I hesitate to use it again after so long with python
[13:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, that's server-side stuff and a worry for the admin, which are me.
[14:00:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> just means i can do up quests or other functionality easily
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[14:11:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is the Universe Ringing Like a Crystal Glass? - http://sylnt.us - Betteridge-says... Cheers!
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[18:53:56] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[18:53:59] <exec> └─ 13John Ozila - Funky Boogie - YouTube
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[20:37:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Sup.
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[21:44:33] <Ethanol-fueled> soup fellas.
[21:44:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Tuna fish is really good.
[21:45:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Throw some mayo and some salt and pepper, maybe a dash of Tobasco, and it's a meal fit for a king.
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[22:12:46] <takyon> zip
[22:16:53] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:16:53] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:16:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1468
[22:17:32] <crutchy> oops. my lappy must've woken up when i unplugged the mouse
[22:18:53] <crutchy> monday_morning--
[22:18:53] <Bender> karma - monday_morning: -1
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[22:21:23] <crutchy> http://money.cnn.com
[22:21:26] <exec> └─ 13SpaceX's failed mission: What we know - Jun. 28, 2015
[22:21:44] <crutchy> elon musk: "it's my birthday and i'll cry if i want to"
[22:23:37] <crutchy> looks like the ruskies are gunna have to save the day again. obama/pentagon/nato/etc not gunna like that
[22:24:07] <takyon> aint that some shit
[22:24:27] <takyon> we gave you one job musk
[22:24:39] <takyon> luckily they are still contracted for like 10 more launches
[22:25:01] <crutchy> yeah, after 10 more failures they'll surely work out the kinks :p
[22:26:05] <crutchy> i like spacex, but unfortunately everything in america costs 100 times more than in russia so spacex will never be able to compete with the russians
[22:26:24] <crutchy> russia also has decades more experience than spacex
[22:26:35] <crutchy> hopefully they find their feet
[22:26:53] <crutchy> if musk can't get it to work probably nobody can
[22:27:41] <takyon> wtf
[22:27:47] <takyon> spacex competes with everybody on price
[22:28:06] <crutchy> except russia
[22:28:37] <takyon> how much do they charge
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[22:29:08] <crutchy> not talking about price. i'm talking about cost
[22:29:37] <crutchy> cost of labour for example is much much lower in russia than the USA
[22:29:50] <crutchy> cost of materials
[22:29:57] <crutchy> cost of energy
[22:30:31] <crutchy> its a different playing field really, but in western markets spacex is likely the forerunner
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[22:32:11] <crutchy> chinese will also likely develop a similar program to russia, so that will also put pressure on musk. spacex will probably rely on rorting the taxpayer for a few more years to stay afloat
[22:32:37] <crutchy> no worse than boeing or lockheed martin though
[22:33:00] <crutchy> bugger. gotta go to workipoos
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