#Soylent | Logs for 2015-08-18

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[00:26:37] <takyon> check
[00:28:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> check
[00:29:18] * Deucalion checks... shit! who stole my feet!
[00:29:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> you stole them from yourself
[00:29:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> you're the best thief EVAR.
[00:30:09] <BadCoderFinger> Better yet: The shoes are still there.
[00:30:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, obviously. Deucalion would have *noticed* if somebody had taken his shoes.
[00:30:54] * takyon steals Nike's unreleased shoes
[00:31:34] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:31:35] <systemd> ^ 03US government tweaks internet handover date: 1 November 2016 • The Register
[00:31:45] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[00:31:45] <systemd> ^ 03Anti-privacy unkillable super-cookies spreading around the world – study • The Register
[00:32:10] * Deucalion is conflicted. should that be taken as a compliment for being the best, or an insult - being accused of thievery! Logically conflicted now also - can one steal from oneself? *fzzzzt* KERNEL PANIC
[00:32:42] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[00:32:43] <systemd> ^ 03Heroin pilot program partners law enforcement with harm prevention | US news | The Guardian
[00:33:31] <takyon> http://www.democracynow.org
[00:33:32] <systemd> ^ 03Chelsea Manning Faces Solitary Confinement for Having Vanity Fair’s Caitlyn Jenner Issue in Her Cell | Democracy Now!
[00:35:01] <Deucalion> Question on the Chelsea story would be - is solitary standard practice for detainees found to have "contraband" in their cells? If it is - then what is the story other than "Chelsea Manning" <click here> ?
[00:35:46] <takyon> dunno
[00:36:14] <takyon> it's said that the military intentionally rides manning hard as a punitive/torture measure rather than suicide prevention/etc.
[00:36:25] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[00:36:25] <systemd> ^ 03For The First Time, Women Will Graduate From Army's Rigorous Ranger School : The Two-Way : NPR
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[00:37:45] <BadCoderFinger> And the feet return. What have you done with the shoes?
[00:37:58] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[00:37:59] <systemd> ^ 03Canada PM Harper calls general election for 19 October - BBC News
[00:38:09] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[00:38:09] <systemd> ^ 03Bangkok bomb: Attack aimed to kill foreigners - Thai minister - BBC News
[00:38:31] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[00:38:32] <systemd> ^ 03Drunk airBaltic crew included co-pilot at seven times legal alcohol limit | World news | The Guardian
[00:38:51] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[00:38:51] <systemd> ^ 03EPA to propose first methane cuts as part of Obama climate efforts - MarketWatch
[00:43:59] cmn32480|beach is now known as cmn32480
[00:46:12] <Deucalion> takyon, "it's said that the military intentionally rides manning hard...." - need citations for that kinda claim. Every source I read seems to have a heavy bias one way or another on that particular individual.
[00:46:49] <Deucalion> StolenFeet will blame the cat BadCoderFinger
[00:48:24] <cmn32480> heya kids
[00:48:28] <cmn32480> greings from the beach!
[00:48:53] <cmn32480> s/greings/greetings
[00:48:55] <cmn32480> s/greings/greetings/
[00:49:14] <cmn32480> meh...
[00:49:30] <Deucalion> sedbot is in absentia
[00:49:46] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[00:49:48] <systemd> ^ 03Google’s modular Ara phone delayed - BBC News
[00:49:57] <cmn32480> that'd explain it
[00:50:02] <Deucalion> what are you doing on a beach? Waiting for a wave or been made homeless cmn32480 ?
[00:50:02] <cmn32480> hows everybody>
[00:50:12] <cmn32480> gathering sun
[00:50:18] <cmn32480> for experimental purposes
[00:50:31] <cmn32480> and seeing how long before my kids become prunes from the ocean water
[00:50:35] * Deucalion wires PV panels to cmn32480
[00:50:53] <Deucalion> which ocean?
[00:51:09] <cmn32480> Atlantic
[00:51:15] <takyon> going to update amazon article
[00:51:23] <Deucalion> they'll be chilly prunes then!
[00:51:40] <cmn32480> we are at the beach just north of Hilton Head Island in South Carolina
[00:52:19] * cmn32480 laughs at the pv panels... it rained most of the day
[00:54:16] <takyon> we need hydroelectric pv panels
[00:54:32] * takyon patents internally
[00:54:41] <cmn32480> the kids don't care about the rain. the ocean is warm... we even saw a water spout today
[00:55:19] <Deucalion> It's rained most of the month this side of the Atlantic too... still some mild storms out at sea to drive some swell / surf onto the beaches and the prunelets won't care about persistent rain if they have a body-board to ride the endless rollercoaster. They'll come back when they are either too cold or too hingry.
[00:55:27] <Deucalion> hungry*
[00:55:49] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[00:55:51] <systemd> ^ 03DNA-testing dog poo: Spanish city on the scent of owners who don't pick up | World news | The Guardian
[00:55:56] <takyon> get any water spout photos
[00:57:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stephen Hawking’s Speech System Open-Sourced by Intel - http://sylnt.us - helping-people-is-a-good-thing
[00:57:59] <cmn32480> my wife got a bunch. so did my sister, but we ahven't reviewed them yet
[00:59:41] <takyon> http://www.vice.com
[00:59:41] <systemd> ^ 03What Mexican Criminals Think About Donald Trump | VICE | United States
[01:00:30] <cmn32480> Deucalion my kids don't even wnat the body boards to ride the roller coaster... if I let them, they stay riding the waves on their feet all day
[01:01:26] <cmn32480> at 3, 5, and 6, they are jsut happy to be able to play in the water and have actual (very small) waves to beat them up
[01:01:56] <cmn32480> it does the soul good to watch the kids having fun and ride the waves with them
[01:02:35] <cmn32480> crap... 20 subs in the queue... we must be slacking on getting stuff out!
[01:02:49] <Deucalion> cmn32480, ahh - for a minute there I though you meant your kids could surf rollers on just their feet, which gave my a humorous mental image of people with very big feet.
[01:03:51] <cmn32480> lol... no... they just like jumping in the waves and letting them toss them toward shore... it is a day frought with screams, giggles and laughter
[01:03:52] <Deucalion> cmn32480, you holidaying with you sister's family too?
[01:04:01] <cmn32480> and my parents as well
[01:04:05] <Deucalion> Nice
[01:04:06] <cmn32480> not in the same house
[01:04:36] <cmn32480> like I said... good for the soul
[01:04:53] <cmn32480> and the girls in bikinis don't hurt the soul either
[01:06:27] <Deucalion> It's always good to get the family together. Particularly if the youngster cousins can just muck about, cause mayhem etc. while everyone else has a catchup.
[01:08:44] <StolenFeet> oh, IRC. I forgot I was here.
[01:08:52] <StolenFeet> oh, fakenick. I forgot I wasn't me
[01:08:55] StolenFeet is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[01:09:33] <takyon> I forgot who you are
[01:09:54] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm the sexy one of this channel
[01:10:27] <cmn32480> ummmmm.. NO
[01:10:44] <takyon> pics
[01:11:38] <cmn32480> yeah Deucalion nothing formal planned, meet at the beach or the pool, if one set or another of us wants to go do something else, we can, and nobody gets bent
[01:11:42] <cmn32480> really low key.
[01:13:03] * SpallsHurgenson checks the bank account, sees its not as low as feared, and goes shopping!
[01:20:00] <Deucalion> cmn32480, sounds great, reminds me of my of some of my own childhood holidays - happy times. And yup, families, being what they are you can't all be in each other's space ~all~ the time, but the opportunity to stay connected should be treasured. When the shit hits the fan, family will be there when all else is washed away. You're setting a fine example for your prunes.
[01:21:37] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you already have 3 shipping containers of electronic recyclables that you claim *could be* useful out on your lawn... do you need to buy more?
[01:22:49] <Deucalion> I seem to remember some study about close proximity to cat faeces over prolonged periods can lead to mental disorder...
[01:26:05] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I'm buying more shipping containers :)
[01:28:34] <takyon> http://www.science20.com
[01:28:35] <systemd> ^ 03The Cat And Mouse Nature Of The Parasite Behind Toxoplasmosis
[01:30:29] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:30:30] <systemd> ^ 03Captain, dark energy sensor readings show dwarf galaxies orbiting the Milky Way • The Register
[01:30:31] <Deucalion> Ahh - another correlation != causation thing. One of the joys of having completely socialised medical services they do de-fluff articles like this: http://www.nhs.uk
[01:30:31] <systemd> ^ 03Does owning a cat put your family at risk of schizophrenia? - Health News - NHS Choices
[01:31:35] <Deucalion> Shame my gov't is merrily privatising it away. :(
[01:32:26] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:32:27] <systemd> ^ 03Woman who sued pro-Putin Russian 'troll factory' gets one rouble in damages | World news | The Guardian
[01:58:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York Times: Amazon is a "Bruising Workplace" - http://sylnt.us - ex-employee
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[02:14:57] <BadCoderFinger> You know, if you work for Amazon, just take the $5000 quitting bonus and find another job.
[02:17:44] <takyon> forgot about the quitting bonus
[02:17:51] <takyon> does that apply to the warehouse employees
[02:17:59] <takyon> they seem to be part of a subsidiary
[02:18:10] <BadCoderFinger> Probably not.
[02:18:19] <BadCoderFinger> Indentured servitude is alive and well.
[02:18:45] <takyon> Lab126
[02:19:40] <Deucalion> You now what you need in the US - zero hour contracts - they're great.
[02:19:45] <Deucalion> know*
[02:21:15] * Deucalion hovers off to bed
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[02:38:40] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:38:41] <systemd> ^ 03Another root hole in OS X. We know it, you know it, the bad people know it – and no patch exists • The Register
[02:38:59] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[02:39:01] <systemd> ^ 03Queensland police minister to be investigated by ethics committee | Australia news | The Guardian
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[02:54:41] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[02:54:41] <systemd> ^✓ 03Queensland police minister to be investigated by ethics committee | Australia news | The Guardian
[02:55:44] <crutchy> http://www.news.com.au
[02:55:44] <systemd> ^ 03Samsung Galaxy Note 5 undercuts Apple iPhone, on sale August 18
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[03:29:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 200 Academics Citicize APA Research Saying Violent Games Are a "Risk Factor" - http://sylnt.us - get-the-BFG2000
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[03:59:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 200 Academics Criticize APA Research Saying Violent Games Are a "Risk Factor" - http://sylnt.us - get-the-BFG2000
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[05:00:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Next Android Now Has a Name: Marshmallow - http://sylnt.us - next-up-nutterbutter
[06:27:50] <chromas> from the let-devices-get-it-installed-before-releasing-another-version dept
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[07:01:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robot Weapons: What’s the Harm? - http://sylnt.us - skynet-is-beginning
[07:41:37] <Gravis> how interesting. despite being relevant and modded "underrated", my comment was once again modded "offtopic": https://soylentnews.org
[07:41:37] <systemd> ^* 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:0, Offtopic)
[07:42:30] <Gravis> perhaps someone with multiple accounts?
[07:47:30] <crutchy> Gravis, that happens dude. tis why most of the time i just comment as AC
[07:48:07] <Gravis> pff... commenting as AC is just yelling at people and running away
[07:48:25] <crutchy> i think the mod system uses ipid's, so i assume it would be tricky to mod using multiple accounts unless you go through proxies
[07:48:30] <crutchy> but i dunno never tried it
[07:48:37] <crutchy> i rarely bother modding
[07:49:26] <crutchy> ^ tmb, paulej72
[08:33:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Toshiba Brings Through-Silicon Vias to NAND Flash - http://sylnt.us - 256k-should-be-enough-for-anybody
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[08:54:51] <Gravis> crutchy: let me guess, this is one of yours? "Fuck you, I'm buying a Windows tablet. You know what IE has? Developer Tools. And let me tell you, the standard layout touch keyboard is perfectly fine for coding. Fuck your intentionally crippled mobile bullshit OS, and fuck Google."
[08:56:12] <crutchy> nah not me
[08:56:21] <crutchy> i haven't commented on SN for over a week
[08:57:24] <crutchy> i also don't code on touchy anything
[08:57:48] <crutchy> also don't give a shit about google (don't love em or hate em)
[08:58:12] <crutchy> and i haven't used IE since.... erm
[08:58:24] <Gravis> AC's need to be identifiable from each other... so that they can be blocked.
[08:58:53] <crutchy> you know what AC stands for right?
[08:59:30] <crutchy> if you getting trolled by AC's prolly better to set your prefs to browse at 0+
[08:59:34] <crutchy> derp
[08:59:35] <crutchy> 1+
[08:59:57] <Gravis> a·non·y·mous
[08:59:57] <Gravis> əˈnänəməs/Submit
[08:59:57] <Gravis> adjective
[08:59:57] <Gravis> (of a person) not identified by name; of unknown name.
[09:00:24] <crutchy> err... yeah something like that
[09:01:08] <Gravis> let them post as AC but i would like to be able to tell one AC from another
[09:03:04] <Gravis> why should posting as AC be a way to circumvent consequence?
[09:05:02] <Gravis> crutchy: do you think the purpose of posting as an AC is to enable trolling?
[09:15:36] <crutchy> yeah pretty much
[09:15:45] <crutchy> what else would it be useful for?
[09:16:37] <crutchy> if there was no opportunity to post without consequence, SN would be dead in the water
[09:18:09] <crutchy> well i use it for trolling anyways. other people might have their own reasons
[09:32:45] <Gravis> crutchy: you are a parasite. SN does not need parasites.
[09:34:58] <crutchy> hehe ;p
[09:35:12] <crutchy> nice to know i'm appreciated
[09:35:14] * JamesNZ leeches Gravis's internetz, leeches are cool right?
[09:36:30] <Gravis> JamesNZ: i have no problem with sharing... but if you start poisoning the internet, that's when i have a problem.
[09:37:55] <JamesNZ> I'm pretty sure I carry a few viruses, but you have to be tolerant of me anyway m'kay.
[09:52:35] <crutchy> socialists are seldom tolerant :p
[09:57:49] <crutchy> ;socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[09:57:49] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard, you're a socialist!
[10:03:13] * SirFinkus just discovered the periodic videos youtube channel
[10:03:32] <SirFinkus> there goes my night (morning?)
[10:03:49] <JamesNZ> Both, I'll bet :P
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[10:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[10:12:54] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[10:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:13:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1578
[10:16:05] <crutchy> coffee++ # on my last one for the day :(
[10:16:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1579
[10:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> first one here
[10:18:19] * TheMightyBuzzard checks the fishing weather
[10:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet, looks like the rain is all going east of me
[10:20:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[10:20:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5817, owned by AlwaysNever
[10:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[10:22:28] <crutchy> fucket. ima make another. my last one went cold
[10:22:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> go fer it
[10:25:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, think i'll get on some api work tomorrow since it's sposed to rain
[10:26:06] <crutchy> my bot's still dead
[10:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> broke it with the merge?
[10:26:36] <crutchy> nah just trying to get it to work on my lappy so i can tinker
[10:26:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[10:26:53] <crutchy> stupid connection problem
[10:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[10:29:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[10:29:29] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) utf8mb4 upgrade 2) add an api call to return a list of nexuses 3) add a nexus field to the api stories list call 4) add an api option to pull only a single nexus 5) filtering for the api cause damn 6) find out wtf is going on with memcache 7) look into daily email digests
[10:32:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, wonder how you get a list of nexuses
[10:34:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spanish Woman Fined for Posting Photo of Illegally Parked Police Car - http://sylnt.us - next-time-send-it-to-the-chief
[10:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, enough looking at the api for now. there's fish needs catching.
[10:53:16] <crutchy> gunna try building a new vm methinks
[10:56:28] <crutchy> fuck looking for an old netinst iso
[10:56:28] <ciri> You're so dense that light bends around you.
[10:56:44] <SirFinkus> I don't get it...
[10:57:51] <crutchy> ooh. debian 8 is stable now
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[12:25:55] <Bytram> !uid
[12:25:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5817, owned by AlwaysNever
[12:26:05] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:26:45] <crutchy> g'day mr Bytram sir
[12:26:47] <ciri> :D crutchy
[12:26:51] <Bytram> hmmm, looks like exec has gone missing
[12:27:01] <crutchy> yeah it does that
[12:27:02] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day!
[12:27:07] <Bytram> crutchy: lemme try
[12:27:43] <Bytram> urg. "/invite exec" brought no joy...
[12:27:47] <Bytram> must be a dead parrot
[12:28:07] <crutchy> server is off
[12:28:19] <crutchy> i'm spinning up a new vbox on my lappy atm
[12:28:34] <crutchy> old one took a dump on its network settings or summin
[12:28:39] <crutchy> i dunno
[12:28:57] <Bytram> ouch. good luck!
[12:29:04] <Bytram> what do use for a VM?
[12:29:13] <crutchy> virtualbox
[12:29:37] <crutchy> desktop still works, but its more fun tinkering with my lappy on the couch :)
[12:29:46] <Bytram> is that from Oracle?
[12:29:51] <crutchy> yeah
[12:29:55] <Bytram> blegh.
[12:30:20] <crutchy> heh. they suck as a company, but virtualbox is pretty sweet
[12:30:53] <Bytram> I've now got this lappy which is running Win 7 Pro and am thinking of running it in a VM....
[12:31:27] <Bytram> I tested the IBM VM operating system back in the early 80's, so I'm familiar with the *concepts*, but have no hands-on experience using VMs on a PC.
[12:31:45] <Bytram> most important to me atm are two things:
[12:32:22] <Bytram> 1.) Don't set things up so that I am stuck, later, should the metal-level OS go sideways (what oracle is famous for doing -- see mysql)
[12:32:43] <Bytram> 2.) Make it so I can go back to metal should I so choose to do so, later
[12:33:14] <Bytram> underlying all this is a desire for simple and effective backup/restore
[12:33:46] <Bytram> having just spent the better part of a month getting programs installed and configured, I'd rather not have to go through THAT again.
[12:33:55] <crutchy> nowadays 2) is usually the other way around
[12:34:04] <crutchy> few people want a bare metal OS anymore
[12:34:11] <Bytram> I can back up my *data* easily enough, but that's nowhere near enough to recreate my entire environment.
[12:34:43] <crutchy> virtual machines are fairly ubiquitous nowadays
[12:34:43] <Bytram> true that, but if the hosting OS do something I take issue with, I want to have some alternative
[12:36:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Postdoc Designs Computational Tool, Nets Tenfold Increase in Number of Sequenced Virus Genomes - http://sylnt.us - hidden-in-plain-sight
[12:36:24] <crutchy> if you feel like sticking your toes in the water, vbox is prolly a good hypervisor for beginners
[12:36:32] <crutchy> maybe try ubuntu or something as a guest
[12:36:52] <Bytram> that was another thought of mine...
[12:37:14] <Bytram> maybe have, say, ubuntu as the base and run windows in a VM?
[12:37:22] <crutchy> or that
[12:37:37] <crutchy> i run mine in a win7 host cos win7 came on my lappy
[12:37:43] <Bytram> or, have a base OS, and run each OS in its own VM; so I'd have a VM for windows, and a VM for Ubuntu, and ....
[12:37:45] <crutchy> no other reason rly :p
[12:38:13] <Bytram> but would I use for my hypervisor?
[12:38:14] <crutchy> virtualbox isn't like xen. it isn't a host on its own so need a host OS
[12:38:26] <Bytram> good point, thanks!
[12:38:30] <crutchy> vbox is just the hypervisor
[12:39:55] <Bytram> now I'm confused... so virtualbox does not run on the bare metal?
[12:40:22] <crutchy> it does, but its a hosted hypervisor
[12:40:34] <crutchy> https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:40:39] <crutchy> type 2 on the wiki page
[12:40:50] <crutchy> xen is type 1
[12:41:23] <crutchy> i just installed virtualbox like any other program on my windows 7 lappy
[12:42:32] <Bytram> hold on... am editing a story atm; back in a few minutes
[12:52:39] <Bytram> !uid
[12:52:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5817, owned by AlwaysNever
[12:52:43] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:52:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1580
[12:52:56] <Bytram> well, at least THOSE are still working!
[12:53:03] <Bytram> !weather boston
[12:53:10] <Bytram> ^weather boston
[12:53:11] <geotti_away> [Boston, Massachusetts] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 28.1*C but feels like 30*C. Humidity: 66%.
[12:53:22] <Bytram> ^weather portland, me
[12:53:45] <Bytram> ^weather Presque Isle, Maine
[12:54:03] <Bytram> ^weather
[12:54:11] <Bytram> :/
[12:54:52] * Bytram clicks crutchy's wiki link
[12:59:35] <crutchy> installing packages for vm. getting there :p
[12:59:45] <Bytram> good luck!
[13:00:04] <crutchy> maybe i should make an exec-vm available for download :p
[13:00:49] <Bytram> and to launch it, you'd use a command like: exec exec? =)
[13:00:56] <crutchy> lol
[13:01:26] <crutchy> i'd just put the php command in /etc/rc.local
[13:01:33] <crutchy> ooh actually maybe not
[13:01:38] <crutchy> don't want it running as root
[13:02:14] <crutchy> actually can run a command as a different user with su i think
[13:02:40] <crutchy> meh i'll just make a launcher on the desktop
[13:02:46] <Bytram> KISS?
[13:02:54] <crutchy> yup
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[13:08:44] <Bytram> http://www.securityfocus.com
[13:10:36] <crutchy> never used foreign keys in mysql before
[13:15:04] <crutchy> 'retrieving file 949 of 1106'
[13:15:26] <crutchy> you know what they say about a watched pot
[13:15:30] <crutchy> :/
[13:17:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's why I do stuff I'm not planning on watching inside a tmux instance
[13:17:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can just disconnect and come back to it later
[13:18:04] <crutchy> i'm installing debian
[13:18:09] <crutchy> <Bytram> now I'm confused... so virtualbox does not run on the bare metal?
[13:18:09] <crutchy> <crutchy> it does, but its a hosted hypervisor
[13:18:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's hard to do inside tmux
[13:18:28] <crutchy> ^ actually Bytram you're right; virtualbox doesn't run on bare metal
[13:18:40] <crutchy> heh
[13:18:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's slow on Windows :(
[13:18:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> much better on Linux
[13:19:07] <crutchy> what's slow on windows?
[13:19:12] <crutchy> tmux?
[13:19:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> VirtualBox
[13:19:18] <crutchy> ah
[13:19:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> at least in my experience
[13:19:27] <crutchy> i don't use it heavily
[13:19:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have Linux inside VirtualBox on Windows at work
[13:19:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> and Windows inside VirtualBox on Linux at home
[13:19:46] <crutchy> usually only run one vm on my lappy at a time
[13:20:03] <crutchy> i run 3 or 4 headless at a time on a debian host at work
[13:20:14] <crutchy> they seem to run pretty nice
[13:20:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> The "Windows inside Linux" setup seems to have a lot fewer performance issues.
[13:20:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> I have a Linux-on-VirtualBox-on-Linux setup as well, but that's a server image for running TinyTinyRSS.
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[14:13:11] <crutchy> Bytram, finally got my new vm up. took a bit to get guest additions working cos i had to update virtualbox
[14:13:31] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:13:51] <Bytram> prereqs can be timeconsuming.
[14:18:14] <Bytram> hmmm, do you know of a windows command (Win 7 Pro) that will tell me whether or not I am running as an Admin?
[14:25:28] <crutchy> not sure off top of my head
[14:25:38] <crutchy> apart from checking in the users control panel applet
[14:25:46] <crutchy> usually indicates there
[14:26:20] <crutchy> installing php and mysql atm :/
[14:26:54] <crutchy> gotta make an export of exec's mysql too
[14:28:49] <crutchy> not gunna finish this tonight methinks :(
[14:28:57] <crutchy> installing git now
[14:30:27] <crutchy> and gawk and screen and...
[14:31:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> tmux > screen
[14:31:57] <Bytram> crutchy: kthnx; gtg... biab
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[18:03:45] <Gravis> NCommander: i would settle for being able to mod a comment "overrated" that hasn't been previous modded
[18:03:58] <Gravis> NCommander: in the mean time i have to mod them something like flamebait
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[20:04:14] <Subsentient> Ever been so lazy that your desktop is playing music, but you're on your bed, so you use your laptop to ssh in and killall plugin-container to stop pandora?
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[21:51:50] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[22:05:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 12345
[22:05:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> oh dammit, exec isn't here.
[22:16:35] <cmn32480> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... no exec.... aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:16:43] <cmn32480> !weather 21015
[22:16:53] <cmn32480> ;weather 21015
[22:16:53] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 60s. Tomorrow: Isolated thunderstorms in the morning, then skies turning partly cloudy late. High 87F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
[22:17:03] <cmn32480> andytheabsurd ^^
[22:22:42] <takyon> The weather today is hot, wet, and flashy.
[22:25:45] <crutchy> ooh flashy!?
[22:26:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> that sound like good (or at least entertaining) qualities in a woman, but not so much in the weather.
[22:26:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/that/those/
[22:27:08] <crutchy> AndyTheAbsurd, agreed
[22:28:32] <takyon> AndyTheComedian
[22:29:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> no, I just steal jokes.
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[23:32:02] <takyon> oh finally
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[23:41:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I feel different.
[23:44:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Patent Awarded For Space Elavator - http://sylnt.us - believe-when-we-see-it
[23:44:51] <SpallsHurgenson> everything seems to be moving faster.
[23:49:34] <chromas> birthday?
[23:50:25] <SpallsHurgenson> who... who said that? it whizzed by in a blur!
[23:52:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Look ma, I can watch hi-def videos on the internet without buffering!
[23:53:06] * SpallsHurgenson wipes away a tear, "I've made it, I've finally made it!"
[23:56:39] <SpallsHurgenson> but boy howdy, consumer cable internet speeds really fluctuate. One moment I'm getting 100mbs, the next its down to 15. Slow as my DSL was, I loved it for its consistency