#Soylent | Logs for 2015-11-11
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[00:08:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vizio Smart TVs Spying on You - http://sylnt.us - watching-big-brother-watching-you
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[01:35:47] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.techspot.com
[01:35:47] <pants> ^ 03This guy meticulously built an entire PC out of cardboard - TechSpot
[01:39:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Carbon Nanotubes in a Race Against Time to Replace Silicon - http://sylnt.us - all-nanotubes-all-the-time
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[02:05:21] * SpallsHurgenson suspects everyone here is playing fallout 4, hence the silence :)
[02:06:31] * pants hugs SpallsHurgenson
[02:06:55] <pants> s/s//2
[02:06:55] <sedctl> <pants> hugs SpallHurgenson
[02:07:14] <pants> :(
[02:07:15] <JamesNZ> Wot is fallout 4, precious?
[02:07:32] <SpallsHurgenson> post-nuclear Skyrim
[02:07:57] <JamesNZ> Wot is Skyrim, precious?
[02:08:27] <SpallsHurgenson> medieval Fallout 4 :)
[02:08:50] <SpallsHurgenson> (c'mon, you knew that was coming)
[02:09:14] <JamesNZ> :P
[02:14:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I am showing an unprecedented display of willpower by not waiting for the GOTY edition instead of buying it immediately :)
[02:15:08] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps this indicates that I am finally growing up? :) :)
[02:15:11] <JamesNZ> GOTY?
[02:15:23] <JamesNZ> Growing up means wearing pants!
[02:15:50] <SpallsHurgenson> nevah!!!!!
[02:16:05] <JamesNZ> 'tis inevitable.
[02:16:42] <SpallsHurgenson> man, you're as bad as the cops, always insisting I wear pants
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[02:17:33] <JamesNZ> Plot twist: I am a cop O_o
[02:19:51] * pants --> SpallsHurgenson
[02:19:56] <SpallsHurgenson> but aren't we all cops, in our own special way? :)
[02:20:48] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't know what that means either
[02:21:32] <JamesNZ> You're not the only one :P
[02:22:44] <SpallsHurgenson> hush you; marvel in my expressions of wisdom
[02:24:46] <JamesNZ> I can't when you're not wearing pants.
[02:25:59] cmn32480|workin is now known as cmn32480
[02:31:25] <cmn32480> that'd be all the time JamesNZ
[02:31:41] <cmn32480> it's like knowing when I am in a hotel.... almost always
[02:33:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought you were in a plane. Get thee hence to a plane, cmn32480
[02:33:27] <cmn32480> 8pm tomorrow
[02:33:37] <cmn32480> I promised my wife that I'd be on it
[02:37:15] * SpallsHurgenson swallows a sophomoric response
[02:37:42] <cmn32480> it is IRC... sophomoric responses are the norm...
[02:37:54] <cmn32480> regurgitate your sophomoric response
[02:38:21] <cmn32480> i am intrigued
[02:38:34] <SpallsHurgenson> it was something about being on your wife shortly thereafter :)
[02:38:52] <cmn32480> if all goes well, that is the plan
[02:42:49] * cmn32480 rings the submission bell
[02:43:40] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, she makes you wear a bell? Kinky! :)
[02:43:55] <cmn32480> only for when submissions come in
[02:44:03] <cmn32480> hasn't been ringing much lately
[02:51:45] <SpallsHurgenson> well, you are married :)
[02:53:29] <cmn32480> no.. the submission bell I meant.. nimnob
[02:54:25] <SpallsHurgenson> right, the one you wear on your gimp suit :)
[02:56:49] <SpallsHurgenson> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
[02:57:03] <cmn32480> what I wear on my gimp suit is nonne of yhour buiness
[02:57:16] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab cmn32480
[02:57:16] <Bender> Added quote 588
[02:57:35] <cmn32480> lol
[02:57:53] <cmn32480> !quote 587
[02:57:53] <Bender> Quote 587 - <crutchy> cos the one he has isn't big enough
[02:58:01] <cmn32480> !quote 586
[02:58:01] <Bender> Quote 586 - <crutchy> she could grab my pen-like thing
[02:58:08] <cmn32480> !quote 585
[02:58:08] <Bender> Quote 585 - <SirFinkus> I'm going to be so ruthless in my extermination they're going to make disney movies about me
[02:58:22] <cmn32480> !quote 584
[02:58:22] <Bender> Quote 584 - <Subsentient> I bet his hair is dyed with dog diarrhea
[02:58:30] <cmn32480> !quote 583
[02:58:30] <Bender> Quote 583 - <takyon> dang, missed Ethanol-fueled
[02:58:36] <cmn32480> !quote 582
[02:58:36] <Bender> Quote 582 - <BadCoderFinger> The bot only picks on you because it secretly likes you.
[02:58:43] <cmn32480> !quote 581
[02:58:43] <Bender> Quote 581 - <exec> cmn32480: Now. I. Understand. This. Thing. You. Humans. Call. Love.
[02:58:51] <cmn32480> !quote 580
[02:58:51] <Bender> Quote 580 - <MrTea> I pity da fool who tries to pants me!
[02:59:00] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I remember those!
[02:59:11] <cmn32480> I'd imagine so
[02:59:27] <SpallsHurgenson> that "MrTea" sure was a handsome and witty devil
[02:59:30] <cmn32480> quotes are often hilarious when taken out of context
[02:59:44] <cmn32480> cheap knockofff of MrCoffee
[02:59:52] <cmn32480> !quote 579
[02:59:52] <Bender> Quote 579 - <sedctl> <chromas> That means we have to combine their names— SpallsFinkuson
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[03:00:04] <cmn32480> !quote 578
[03:00:04] <Bender> Quote 578 - <chromas> s/s/ll/3
[03:00:08] <cmn32480> !quote 577
[03:00:08] <Bender> Quote 577 - <SirFinkus> I only drink alcohol as a humanitarian thing
[03:00:31] * cmn32480 wishes there was a place to read the whole quote library
[03:01:37] <SpallsHurgenson> there is: #soylent. Keep going :)
[03:01:47] <cmn32480> !quote 576
[03:01:47] <Bender> Quote 576 - <exec> 03[2015-10-24 01:08:2] #Soylent <Bytram> settled on: sucks?\s*dicks?\s*for.*(fun|profit)
[03:01:50] <SpallsHurgenson> only 576 to go :)
[03:01:57] <cmn32480> !quote 575
[03:01:57] <Bender> Quote 575 - <chromas> it's because he had a huge clock
[03:02:03] <cmn32480> !quote 574
[03:02:03] <Bender> Quote 574 - <SirFinkus> PETROL ABORIGINAL FOR BEER
[03:02:07] <cmn32480> !quote 573
[03:02:08] <Bender> Quote 573 - <Gravis> that one is a real gem. -_-
[03:02:12] <cmn32480> !quote 572
[03:02:12] <Bender> Quote 572 - <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson: winner of the first annual #soylent wet t-shirt contest
[03:02:37] <cmn32480> !quote 571
[03:02:37] <Bender> Quote 571 - <SpallsHurgenson> any loss of nudies is a loss for the whole world!
[03:02:45] <cmn32480> !quote 570
[03:02:45] <Bender> Quote 570 - <crutchy> got lost in youtube snatch videos, and i don't mean vaginas
[03:02:56] <cmn32480> !quote 569
[03:02:56] <Bender> Quote 569 - <crutchy> my house is my dungeon, and my wife is the dungeon master :p
[03:03:04] <cmn32480> !quote 568
[03:03:04] <Bender> Quote 568 - <crutchy> never tried ramen
[03:03:08] <cmn32480> !quote 567
[03:03:08] <Bender> Quote 567 - <SirFinkus> it goes out the same consistency it goes in, but the spicyness is concentrated
[03:03:44] <cmn32480> !quote 566
[03:03:44] <Bender> Quote 566 - <TheMightyBuzzard> great, now i got soapy n naked cmn32480 on the brain
[03:03:58] * SpallsHurgenson stands by his words immortalized in quite 571
[03:04:10] <cmn32480> SpallsHurgenson is correct
[03:04:17] <cmn32480> !quote 565
[03:04:17] <Bender> Quote 565 - <Deucalion> The scariest person to come across is the one that claims they never fucked up. Pathological liar or so unaware if themselves they are a liability to all around.
[03:04:29] <cmn32480> !quote 564
[03:04:29] <Bender> Quote 564 - <TheMightyBuzzard> really wish i hadn't dated that stripper just cause she played columbia on stage though. i could have done without that particular mistake.
[03:04:42] <cmn32480> !quote 563
[03:04:42] <Bender> Quote 563 - <crutchy> god invented the ceiling fan for fucking
[03:04:50] <cmn32480> !quote 562
[03:04:50] <Bender> Quote 562 - <SirFinkus> surprised nobody grabbed that
[03:04:57] <cmn32480> !quote 561
[03:04:57] <Bender> Quote 561 - <takyon> I name SpallsHurgenson the Dank Pastafarian Papa
[03:05:04] <cmn32480> !quote 560
[03:05:05] <Bender> Quote 560 - <SirFinkus> JUST SHOW ME THE RUBBER COCKS ALREADY
[03:05:10] <Deucalion> I hereby Kinght thee SirPingALot cmn32480
[03:05:25] <SpallsHurgenson> must remember quote 560
[03:05:40] <cmn32480> sorry Deucalion. We were simply reading from the archive
[03:06:08] <SpallsHurgenson> we'll be done soon; only 559 to go :)
[03:06:26] <chromas> We need a way to access the quotes db from the web. then we can make a bot to access it
[03:06:48] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes chromas
[03:07:01] <cmn32480> or perhaps just log it ot a text file?
[03:07:02] <SpallsHurgenson> protect it with robots.txt :)
[03:07:04] <chromas> You can never be too abstract
[03:07:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no no no. you need it served up through a web api the bot can access it through
[03:07:35] <chromas> should be easy enough; it's stored in a json file
[03:07:37] <cmn32480> apparently I have angered the Gods
[03:08:19] * cmn32480 quietly goes back to his editing
[03:08:26] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what gods are for
[03:09:16] <SpallsHurgenson> besides, if they weren't all riled up, nobody would even remember they were there.
[03:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, wonder where the quote db is
[03:09:47] <cmn32480> true... but we dont' want the buzzard all riled up and scaring all the fish
[03:10:11] <cmn32480> check inside benders' front hatch
[03:10:12] * Deucalion wishes TMB luck.... we'll see him in 6 months time covered in Bender guts
[03:10:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Fast food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/hr - http://sylnt.us - rise-of-the-proletariat
[03:10:41] <cmn32480> or perhaps in his shoes. when I lose somthing it always ends up in my shoes
[03:10:55] <Deucalion> night all...
[03:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 1
[03:10:56] <Bender> Quote 1 - <NCommander> DarkMorph, because whenever I have to touch hashref's I want to stab my eyes out
[03:11:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 0
[03:11:09] <Bender> Quote 0 - <MrBluze> dumb question i know
[03:11:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, found it
[03:11:16] <cmn32480> night Deucalion we shall try not to ping thee any longer
[03:11:42] <chromas> we'll ping you in your dreams
[03:12:37] <SirFinkus> I see my quotes are quite popular grab targets
[03:12:56] <cmn32480> !quote 560
[03:12:56] <Bender> Quote 560 - <SirFinkus> JUST SHOW ME THE RUBBER COCKS ALREADY
[03:13:20] <SirFinkus> that one was in context believe it or not
[03:13:26] <chromas> You expose yourself to our grabs
[03:13:43] <SirFinkus> are you saying I was asking for it?
[03:14:03] <cmn32480> yes. THat is precisely what he is saying, you harlot
[03:14:10] <SirFinkus> THIS is what I was typing TELL me I deserve it
[03:14:19] <chromas> "Blaming the victim! Blaming the victim!"
[03:14:35] * SirFinkus organizes a soylent slutwalk
[03:14:42] <cmn32480> the buzzard is also a frequently quoted individual
[03:15:01] <cmn32480> can the rest of us just shame you?
[03:16:20] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB only gets quoted so much 'cause he talks so much :)
[03:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://staff.soylentnews.org
[03:16:50] <chromas> is that a copy or a symlink?
[03:16:55] <cmn32480> did we stop that from being googleable?
[03:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> copy. won't stay updated
[03:17:06] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, a security exception :)
[03:17:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> security? this place is bloody logged and the logs are on google.
[03:17:53] <cmn32480> touchee
[03:18:05] <SpallsHurgenson> needs quote numbers so they can be referenced in the channel :)
[03:18:06] <chromas> #find site:logs.sylnt.us rubber cock
[03:18:09] <SpallsHurgenson> you know, like
[03:18:14] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 560
[03:18:14] <Bender> Quote 560 - <SirFinkus> JUST SHOW ME THE RUBBER COCKS ALREADY
[03:18:30] <SirFinkus> well?
[03:18:32] <SirFinkus> where are they?
[03:18:34] <cmn32480> Her is an oldie but goodieL
[03:18:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[03:18:37] <cmn32480> "<poutine> my ballsack could program a better website than SN",
[03:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #find "JUST SHOW ME THE RUBBER COCKS ALREADY"
[03:18:58] <chromas> I wonder what his ballsac's up to right about now
[03:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid bot
[03:19:09] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab chromas
[03:19:09] <Bender> Added quote 589
[03:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #find damnit
[03:19:25] <MrPlow> http://english.stackexchange.com
[03:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #find sirfinkus
[03:19:44] <chromas> #find double dammit
[03:19:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no love
[03:19:48] <MrPlow> https://profiles.google.com
[03:19:48] <MrPlow> http://www.urbandictionary.com
[03:20:02] <chromas> is that a google lucky search?
[03:20:06] <SirFinkus> I'm trying to remember the context of that
[03:20:37] <cmn32480> apparently that quote fits just about any context we want!
[03:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, maybe the logs aren't indexed
[03:20:56] <cmn32480> but likely it was in a discussion with EF regarding his extenders
[03:20:58] <cmn32480> prolly
[03:21:24] <SirFinkus> no, I remember it was a news story with a video
[03:21:30] <SirFinkus> but with no rubber cocks
[03:21:48] <SirFinkus> even though rubber cocks were implied in the news story
[03:21:52] <SirFinkus> which is why I clicked it
[03:22:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> no robots.txt though. guess i could just tell google to index it.
[03:22:23] <SirFinkus> do eet
[03:22:24] <SpallsHurgenson> and if there's one thing we've learned tonight, it's that rubber cocks are very important to SirFinkus
[03:22:45] <SirFinkus> I have an academic interest SpallsHurgenson
[03:23:19] <chromas> [2015-09-09 20:53:2] #Soylent <SirFinkus> http://www.bloomberg.com
[03:23:19] <chromas> [2015-09-09 20:53:3] #Soylent <Schwifty> ^ 03Toy Vey: The Rabbi Selling Kosher Vibrators - Bloomberg Business
[03:23:19] <chromas> [2015-09-09 20:53:3] #Soylent <SirFinkus> no money shot
[03:23:19] <chromas> [2015-09-09 20:53:3] #Soylent <SirFinkus> JUST SHOW ME THE RUBBER COCKS ALREADY
[03:23:19] <chromas> [2015-09-09 21:42:5] #Soylent <chromas> !grab SirFinkus
[03:23:19] <pants> ^✓ 03Toy Vey: The Rabbi Selling Kosher Vibrators - Bloomberg Business
[03:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they are
[03:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.google.com
[03:23:29] <pants> ^ 03site:logs.sylnt.us - Google Search
[03:23:38] <SirFinkus> ahh, see? it was in context
[03:23:57] <SirFinkus> weird, I tried that and it didn't work
[03:27:27] <chromas> well there's a MrPlow function. search the logs and return a link to the appropriate one
[03:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo that thing that chromas said
[03:27:57] <Bender> todo item 6 added
[03:28:11] <chromas> [paging dr crutchy]
[03:29:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://twitter.com
[03:29:44] <pants> ^ 03Sen. Jeff Sessions on Twitter: "Photo of 5,554pg TPP on Sessions’ desk. B/C of Fast-Track, it can’t be filibustered, amended or given a treaty vote. https://t.co"
[03:30:56] <chromas> to treaty should be longer than twelve volumes
[03:31:01] <chromas> s/t/n/
[03:31:01] <sedctl> <chromas> no treaty should be longer than twelve volumes
[03:33:24] <SpallsHurgenson> MSRT has scanned 18 million files so far on my computer...
[03:34:02] <cmn32480> is that the one that encrypts them and asks for a ransom to get them back?
[03:34:37] <SpallsHurgenson> no, its Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool.
[03:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> does it remove windows?
[03:34:53] <cmn32480> ninja'd
[03:34:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I decided on a whim to start it this morning and let it scan ALL files :)
[03:35:01] <cmn32480> I was going to ask if it was a linux installer
[03:35:09] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[03:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'm going back to reading my book. yall have fun reading the quotes without pinging everyone.
[03:36:40] <cmn32480> that's hardly fun
[03:36:47] <cmn32480> more fun to ping everybody
[03:37:01] <JamesNZ> I can't have fun at all without pinging you TheMightyBuzzard, why such a spoilsport? :P
[03:37:02] * cmn32480 is going to keep editing.... <BOOOOOOOO!>
[03:37:15] <SpallsHurgenson> you were on quote 559, cmn32480 :)
[03:37:17] <cmn32480> give him bedbugs JamesNZ
[03:37:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, all part of my evil, fascist plan
[03:37:32] <cmn32480> the problem is that the list TMB put out isn't numbered
[03:37:33] <JamesNZ> Yer a genius cmn32480!
[03:37:47] <cmn32480> and I can't coutn that high
[03:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> starts at zero at the top
[03:37:51] * JamesNZ carries out his plan with fiendish delight
[03:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> script something up really quick and number em, chromas
[03:38:16] <JamesNZ> ♪ Started from the bottom now we here ♪♪
[03:39:37] <cmn32480> zoinks... I'm close to publishing my 750'th story on the site
[03:40:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Fast Food Workers Strike Nationwide for $15/Hr - http://sylnt.us - rise-of-the-proletariat
[03:53:17] <chromas> maybe we'll see some McRobots now
[03:53:40] <cmn32480> highly likely
[03:53:56] <cmn32480> a lot of FF restaurants are replcing their counter people wiht kioks for ordering
[03:55:30] <cmn32480> ok the queue is good to 8pm Eastern tomorrow.
[03:55:35] <cmn32480> [I'm exhausted.
[03:55:43] <cmn32480> good night my fine feathered friends
[03:56:01] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:56:15] <Bytram> cmn32480: hi... and .... g'night
[03:56:17] <chromas> g'noight
[03:56:22] <SpallsHurgenson> but I don't have feathers!
[03:56:40] <cmn32480> or pants...
[03:56:48] <cmn32480> but we still like you anyway SpallsHurgenson
[03:57:03] <chromas> you have no pants! we can all see you're feathered down there
[03:57:07] <cmn32480> bytram - queue is good to 8pm tomottow
[03:57:23] <Bytram> I just saw... have started 2nding them.
[03:57:28] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[03:57:28] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 27
[03:57:30] <Bytram> teamwork++
[03:57:30] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 16
[03:57:36] <Bytram> uid++
[03:57:36] <Bender> karma - uid: 1
[03:57:39] <Bytram> =)
[03:57:42] <Bytram> !uid
[03:57:42] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5945, owned by tuna
[03:57:54] <NCommander> What is with people poking quote 1
[03:58:03] * NCommander is summoned whenever THAT happens
[03:58:56] <Bytram> NCommander: don't look at me, even thought I tend to break things, or so I'm [repeatedly] told! =)
[04:00:43] <cmn32480> you shoudln't be so quoteable NCommander
[04:01:18] <Bytram> !grab cmn32480
[04:01:18] <Bender> Added quote 590
[04:01:20] <chromas> the #staff db is full of NCommander
[04:01:31] <Bytram> something deliciously recursive about that one
[04:01:44] <cmn32480> lol
[04:05:21] <NCommander> Its a precaution in case I ever am rendered non-functional. The staff can hook the quotes database up to a RNG, and the boss shall live on.
[04:05:58] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't that the basic plot of warhammer 40K?
[04:06:20] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|away
[04:07:10] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, I'm fairly sure I won't light the warp if you plug my corpse into a lighthouse.
[04:07:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm glad SOMEBODY got the reference
[04:09:21] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, though I'm honored that you think of me of the Emperor of Man himself ;)
[04:09:31] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[04:10:25] * Bytram wonders if that emperor is wearing any clothes, or at least some pants. =)
[04:10:34] <SpallsHurgenson> well, soylentnews does remind me a lot of the imperium of man; it shares its creedo of "Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean" :)
[04:11:54] <NCommander> Bytram, bath robe :P
[04:11:59] <Bytram> LOL!
[04:12:08] <NCommander> One does not code in Perl while wearing pants. It's impure.
[04:12:53] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: that heretic reference reminded me, for some reason, of "The Scarlet Letter" -- PBS did a special on it many years ago and the actress who played Hester Pryne had the most amazing eyes I'd evr seen
[04:12:57] <cmn32480|away> !grab NCommander
[04:12:58] <Bender> Added quote 591
[04:13:17] <Bytram> cmn32480|away: you is supposed to be sleeping
[04:13:23] <cmn32480|away> zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[04:13:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't think its the pants that make it impure; it's Perl itself.
[04:13:27] <Bytram> think what kind of dreams you're gonna have, now!
[04:13:42] <cmn32480|away> nightmares dreaming of Perl
[04:14:05] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: don't throw Perls before wine?
[04:15:31] <NCommander> Actually, I primarily am coding in Ada these days :)
[04:15:55] <Bytram> named after Ada Lovelace?
[04:16:06] <NCommander> Bytram, its a programming language
[04:16:18] <Bytram> yes, I am aware
[04:16:45] <Bytram> jsut trying to remember if I properly remembered who Ada was named after
[04:17:41] <chromas> looks like a wordier Pascal
[04:18:05] <Bytram> ISTR she 'programmed' one of Charles Babbage's machines.
[04:18:31] <Bytram> I've not programmed in it, but based on what I've read about it, that would make a lot of sense
[04:19:04] <Bytram> pascal was very strict about types which allowed the compiler to catch a great number of errors well before code could even ge executed.
[04:19:10] <Bytram> s/ge /get /
[04:19:10] <sedctl> <Bytram> pascal was very strict about types which allowed the compiler to catch a great number of errors well before code could even get executed.
[04:20:07] <chromas> pascal++
[04:20:07] <Bender> karma - pascal: 58
[04:20:39] <chromas> yeah, even pointers are typed
[04:22:21] * NCommander notes its a very opinated language, but quite enjoyable once you get into it
[04:22:30] * Bytram once worked on a large Pascal program which was designed to facilitate data extraction and exchange between very different database engines... think early 1980s... and it was all programmed in pascal.
[04:22:31] <NCommander> Though I have a friend who hates it and thinks Modula-3 should rule the world
[04:22:49] <NCommander> Once you get out of C-based languages, you really learn how fucked up C is
[04:23:06] <Bytram> I read up on Modula-2 and it seemed to have some good ideas, but I sensed it suffered a bit from second-system-itis
[04:23:44] <chromas> Bender: grab NCommander
[04:23:44] <Bender> Added quote 592
[04:24:01] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently the new terminator movie is available on dvd now... and here I just used up all my willpower not buying fallout 4... <whimper>
[04:24:03] <Bytram> well, won't entirely disagree. If you are talking about C 9and not C++), then I think it's not THAT bad... kind of anscale assembler
[04:24:16] <chromas> second-system-itis; is that the one where you put everything you thought up making the first thing into the second?
[04:24:17] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't want to add another crappy movie to his library
[04:24:26] <Bytram> chromas: bingo!
[04:24:32] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, War. War never changes, but men do, on the paths they walk.
[04:25:03] * Bytram is watching transmissions on http://eyes.nasa.gov
[04:25:03] <pants> ^✓ 03DSN Now
[04:25:18] <Bytram> (need to enable scripts from nasa.gov)
[04:25:22] <NCommander> Bytram, except C assumes a flat memory model causing lots of problems with non-standard architectures. You should remember what near and far pointers wher elike. As for C++, Read the FQA then get back to me
[04:25:33] <NCommander> Bytram, http://yosefk.com
[04:25:34] <pants> ^ 03C++ Frequently Questioned Answers
[04:26:03] <Bytram> Ihave somehow managed to keep far away from c++ so far
[04:26:16] <Bytram> agrreed on memory model assumption
[04:26:42] <NCommander> Bytram, the horrorifying thing? When Intel went and designed IA-64, they brought them *back*
[04:26:49] <NCommander> Itanium doesn't have an absolute addressing mode ...
[04:26:53] <Bytram> WHAT?
[04:27:00] <Bytram> ppbbbbt!
[04:27:14] <Bytram> sense no makes!
[04:27:14] <NCommander> Bytram, the compiler hides that fact, since with 129-bit registers, you can fudge it
[04:27:30] <NCommander> (that's not a typo, they are 129-bit)
[04:27:33] <chromas> they just wanted "segfault" to stop being a misnomer
[04:27:46] <Bytram> those are pretty strange lengths for registers
[04:27:52] <NCommander> chromas, you can cause a bus error on amd64 by turning on alignment faults
[04:28:01] <NCommander> Bytram, 128-bits for data, and a special NaT bit
[04:28:02] <NCommander> (not a thing)
[04:28:16] <NCommander> And the original 8087 (FPU for 8080) was 80-bit
[04:28:22] <Bytram> sound slike the making of a 'Who's on first skit' for programmers.
[04:28:54] <Bytram> NAaTurally!
[04:29:01] <NCommander> Bytram, IA64 was more special. The processor executed three opcodes on every cycle. Always three. You have certain templates you had to match to make a valid program.
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[04:29:28] <NCommander> Most compilers couldn't handle parallelizing like that, so you got code that was instruction; nop; nop
[04:29:31] <Bytram> ouch. and if you only needed to do ONE thing, one of those patters had two other no-ops?
[04:29:37] <NCommander> Bytram, bingo.
[04:30:02] <Bytram> and, what, *three*? why not four? three is not even even!
[04:30:06] <NCommander> The programming model is beyond bizarre.
[04:30:13] <NCommander> There are multiple stacks enforced by the processor
[04:30:17] <NCommander> But only a single stack pointer
[04:30:29] <NCommander> The stack grows in *both* directions
[04:30:45] <Bytram> what kind of majik did they expect the compiler writers to come up with? unicorn farts?
[04:31:05] * Bytram brains splods
[04:31:08] <NCommander> Bytram, uh huh. Some programming languages parallize very well. i.e. Fortran does
[04:31:13] <Bytram> nod ond
[04:31:18] <NCommander> But C? Well, unless you've solved the halting problem
[04:31:47] <Bytram> not yet, but don't stop me now!
[04:31:50] <Bytram> ;)
[04:32:01] <NCommander> Well, to put this in perspective
[04:32:09] <NCommander> Before IA64, processors were classified as RISC, or CISC
[04:32:15] <NCommander> After IA64, we got RISC, CISC, and VLIW
[04:32:34] <Bytram> VLIW was a thing back in the early 80's
[04:32:44] <Bytram> or, at least I heard of them back then
[04:33:17] * Bytram wishes that DEC's alpha had had a better reception
[04:34:01] <Bytram> DEC's MACRO-11 assembler was blissfully symmetric -- relfecting the underlying hardware
[04:34:18] <Bytram> ISTR that the vax assembler was similarly symmetric
[04:34:26] <NCommander> Bytram, blame Compaq who believed IA-64 was the future
[04:34:36] <Bytram> for shame
[04:34:54] <Bytram> and they were the ones who first pried away the IBM claws from the BIOS
[04:35:06] <Bytram> clean room implementation
[04:35:20] <NCommander> Well to be fair, IBM tried real hard to make PC architecture suck less. The PS/2 is proof of that
[04:35:28] <Bytram> ISTR compaq was also the first to produce a commercial 386 box
[04:35:30] <NCommander> But IBM's marketing department sucked
[04:35:52] <Bytram> PS/2 was just a try at putting the genie back in the bottle with yet another proprietary system
[04:36:11] <Bytram> some concepts were great, but...
[04:36:45] <Bytram> lose the config(?) disk for an add-on board and, well, nice paperweight you have there
[04:37:20] <Bytram> a bit of an overstatement, but not by too much
[04:40:06] * Bytram reminisces about programming in 6502 assembler and then IBM BAL/370
[04:49:04] * Bytram finishes 2nd-editing stories in the queue...
[04:49:18] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[04:49:32] <Bytram|away> time for bed... g'night everyone!
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[04:53:56] <brainacid> Gravis
[04:54:09] <brainacid> evening all
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[10:16:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Happened to Passenger Hovercraft? - http://sylnt.us - big-old-air-bag
[10:56:21] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:56:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1856
[10:58:53] <alexbst> tea++
[10:58:54] <Bender> karma - tea: 508
[11:02:13] <alexbst> morning--
[11:02:13] <Bender> karma - morning: -2
[11:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:04:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1857
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[11:27:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i don't wanna write up the db changes today.
[11:47:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Different Kind of Wearable Technology: MIT's LineFORM - http://sylnt.us - can't-we-go-back-to-stone-tablets?
[12:29:48] <Bytram|away> ~submit http://www.wired.com
[12:29:57] <Bytram|away> coffee++
[12:29:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1858
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[12:30:03] <Bytram> !uid
[12:30:03] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5945, owned by tuna
[12:30:11] <Bytram> looks fishy
[12:30:18] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[12:39:18] <crutchy> that's a terrible submission Bytram :p
[12:39:21] * crutchy hides
[12:40:03] <Bytram> crutchy: if you get this, then you did not hide very well. =)
[12:42:10] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[12:42:11] <pants> ^ 03Eight-carat diamond smashed in the name of science
[12:44:24] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[12:44:25] <pants> ^ 03New derivation of pi links quantum physics and pure math ( http://phys.org )
[12:50:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:50:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1859
[12:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[12:50:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: mornin'
[12:50:58] <Bytram> ugh. thanks for the hello... just noticed the time and I am supposedd to be at work in an hour.
[12:51:11] * Bytram should prolly get cleaned up and started on his day.
[12:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[12:52:43] <Bytram> yar
[12:53:10] <Bytram> is my 6th day in a row -- am not feeling much lurv to put in another day.
[12:53:13] <Bytram> but...
[12:53:46] <Bytram> that's okay, i have thursday off and they are doing construction on my street -- water will be turned off from 8am-4pm. :P
[12:54:00] <Bytram> whadaya gonna do, yanno?
[12:54:19] <Bytram> let me finish upo with this story I'm editting
[12:54:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> power will or internet or what?
[12:54:47] <Bytram> water
[12:55:25] <Bytram> so, I need to get up early on my day off in order to get in a shower and shave, and then fill a couple large pots with water for any needs during the rest of the day.
[12:55:49] <Bytram> done with story
[12:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[12:56:11] <Bytram> and, of course, I had plans to catch up on my laundry on thursday!
[12:57:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, whatcha think on this? https://soylentnews.org
[12:57:19] <pants> ^ 03SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: Shadow Bans Not Banny Enough For Reddit
[12:59:21] <Bytram> I can see where you are coming from...
[13:00:08] <Bytram> my take on it is that the *government* is restricted in its ability to suppress media ...
[13:01:14] <Bytram> also, your comment about operations on this site... well-meaning and I off-the-top-of-my-heaed concur, but I don't think this is the best way to promulgate *site* policy.
[13:02:26] <Bytram> now, if your comment were more along the lines of "I can assure you that *I* will not ban anyone on the site except for..." then i'd have no difficulty with that.
[13:02:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^
[13:02:44] <Bytram> okay, gtg, will check back in before I leave for day.
[13:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not site policy, just my personal line in the sand
[13:03:48] <Bytram> Yes, I sensed that, but the way it was written could give the impression that it was site policy. I was just advocationg for a clarification in the wording, that's all.
[13:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, i'll edit some then
[13:04:12] <Bytram> on these kinds of issues, precision and accuracy are tantamount, in my book
[13:04:29] <Bytram> much obliged! glad you could understand where I was coming from.
[13:05:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: This being veteran's day in the USA; I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your service to my country. THANK-YOU!!!
[13:05:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> welcome
[13:06:00] <Bytram> ok, gtg... biab
[13:07:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i dunno how to edit the text of the sub without promoting it to publish
[13:18:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Results from MAVEN Mission Published - http://sylnt.us - but-still-no-life
[13:18:24] <Bytram> I think you can edit the text and then hit the *upper* update button. If that doesn't work, then just add a note to the text and uncheck the Display checkbox
[13:43:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> just put it in as an ed note
[13:48:23] <Bytram> other option is to just resubmit. =)
[13:48:29] <Bytram> and then delete the original
[13:49:12] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[13:49:33] <Bytram|away> gtg, have a great day everyone!
[14:48:02] <chromas> There's more than one update button?
[14:54:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a very ugly UI. i feel for the eds.
[14:58:19] <chromas> Multiple submit buttons. How many bosses does it have?
[14:58:32] * chromas submits a tps report
[15:12:24] * AndyTheAbsurd eats chromas's tps report
[15:13:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> did you know TPS reports are a real thing? https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:13:14] <pants> ^ 03Wiki: TPS report
[15:13:58] <chromas> Good thing I hadn't put the new cover on it; those things are toxic
[15:14:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> doesn't matter; I'm actually a robot from the future, so I'm immune to things that would be "toxic" to humans.
[15:15:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> my tps report would have about 300 entries per day, flipping back and forth between "fucked around on the internet" and actual work.
[15:17:37] * chromas suspects Bytram has mucho experience with those
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[16:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, just thinking the phrase happy little tree makes me relax and smile
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[20:14:21] <SirFinkus> I think I might have to watch the prequels again
[20:16:32] <chromas> I—I don't understand that combination of words in that order
[20:17:02] <SirFinkus> I just have to shit on them again
[20:17:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Oh, I thought you were talking about re-watching Mad Max, The Road Warrior, and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome before watching Mad Max: Fury Road.
[20:17:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> because that's the only way I can think of where that sentence makes sense.
[20:17:46] <SirFinkus> no, the other prequels
[20:18:11] <SirFinkus> I'm starting with this again https://www.youtube.com
[20:18:11] <pants> ^ 03Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (Part 1 of 7) - YouTube
[20:18:44] <chromas> whew, that's okay then
[20:19:09] * chromas bakes some pizza rolls
[20:19:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> Apparently there's something called "Episode I: The Phantom Edit" floating around out there that *vastly* improves Ep I. I've never managed to snag a copy of it, though.
[20:19:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> ....bakes? You don't just pop frozen Totino's Pizza Rolls on a plate and microwave them?
[20:19:55] <SirFinkus> it's just a can of lighter fluid and match
[20:20:01] <SirFinkus> only way to improve it
[20:21:05] <chromas> Jar Jar Unchained
[20:23:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Let a Grandmaster of Memory Teach You Something You Will Never Forget - http://sylnt.us - I-forgot-what-I-was-going-to-write
[20:33:58] <SirFinkus> they're better in the oven
[20:55:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> jar jar is far less annoying in spanish. at least if you can't speak it.
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[21:15:34] <SoyGuest40864> TheMightyBuzzard , can you post a link to your submission? Its text isn't a linky now that it's been accepted and I want to read it now.
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[21:16:13] * Ethanol-foored kicks feet, throws spoon *wanna read it now. NOW!*
[21:18:42] <Ethanol-foored> Nevermind. TheMightyGoogle did it for me.
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[21:25:42] * SirFinkus is listening to Albert Collins — Honey. Hush! (Talking Woman Blues), from the album Ice Pickin'
[21:25:47] <SirFinkus> this music isn't very progressive
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[22:15:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, excellent. must have.
[22:16:09] <SirFinkus> Albert Collins is pretty great
[22:19:07] <SirFinkus> http://lyrics.wikia.com!_(Talking_Woman_Blues)
[22:19:08] <pants> ^ 03Albert Collins:Honey Hush! (Talking Woman Blues) Lyrics - LyricWikia - song lyrics, music lyrics - Wikia
[22:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube albert collins talkin woman
[22:19:41] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[22:22:59] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com another great one
[22:23:00] <pants> ^ 03Albert Collins: I Ain't Drunk - YouTube
[22:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more tea. tryin to get a second nap on.
[22:24:47] <SirFinkus> seems counterproductive
[22:31:03] <nick> had a nap today, it was pretty great
[22:31:20] <SirFinkus> meant the tea part
[22:32:27] <nick> depends on the tea i'd guess
[22:35:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the idea is to keep from taking another nap.
[22:35:56] <SirFinkus> ahh
[22:36:13] <SirFinkus> apparently fallout 4 recognizes if you name your character boobies
[22:36:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?!
[22:36:50] <nick> SirFinkus: did you get fallout4?
[22:36:55] <SirFinkus> nope
[22:37:12] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[22:37:13] <pants> ^ 03Fallout 4 Codworth says boobies - YouTube
[22:37:47] <nick> i want someone here to have played it, want some opinions
[22:38:05] <nick> i was going to buy it earlier, but steam reviews made me ...
[22:38:21] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't, I got burned on skyrim and oblivion
[22:38:42] <SirFinkus> might get it when it's on sale
[22:38:59] <SirFinkus> just for "boobies"
[22:39:10] <nick> i got skyrim recently, whilst waiting for fo4, didnt play much of it though, i'm not one for magic and such
[22:39:28] <SirFinkus> I'd at least wait for mods, the UI is a mess
[22:39:33] <nick> steam reviews are basically saying rpg gameplay is mostly gone
[22:40:09] <SirFinkus> I saw some people streaming it, it's about as deep as borderlands in that respect
[22:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> playing the wrong rpgs then. try sword coast legends if you dig on group tactical rpgs
[22:40:19] <SirFinkus> so not very
[22:41:14] <nick> i'm not huge on rpg's but i've put more time into fo3 and nv than any other games in the last few years
[22:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i think the TES line peaked at morrowind
[22:42:07] <nick> i enjoyed the speech options, being able to take different approaches to things, going through lots of the game avoiding conflict if i wanted to
[22:42:33] <SirFinkus> yeah, Morrowind was the best easily
[22:42:41] <nick> i played the one before skyrim and as i mentioned, skyrim
[22:42:53] <nick> neither i enjoyed
[22:43:06] <SirFinkus> not to start *that* fight again, but the decline in quality seems to correlate with the focus on consoles
[22:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> true nuff
[22:43:30] <SirFinkus> oblivion was trash
[22:43:44] <SirFinkus> skyrim was a bit better
[22:44:04] <nick> the modern console generations and the gameplay style is quite different in the current generation from what i see
[22:44:09] <nick> games are trying to avoid any learning curve
[22:44:14] <SirFinkus> level scaling ruined the tes series
[22:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hoping the steam box will get us more linux games though. even of low quality that means i can get more people off windows.
[22:44:43] <SirFinkus> no risk/reward game, no sense of exploration or advancement
[22:45:26] <nick> it's part of the attempt at going full cinematic, lots of impressive 'sequences' in action and fps games
[22:46:22] <nick> but it means less actual interaction with the game and the world to be able to get the set pieces to work right
[22:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> really it's moving more and more towards the japanese playable novels. railroad you right along a fixed storyline with minimal player interaction.
[22:47:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> that or death match FPS.
[22:47:11] <SirFinkus> naw, not really
[22:47:12] <nick> pretty much yeah
[22:47:21] <SirFinkus> it's more like too much freedom
[22:47:29] <SirFinkus> they want the player to be able to do anything at level one
[22:47:35] <SirFinkus> which ruins the games
[22:47:55] <SirFinkus> In morrowind, if you wandered into the wrong place you'd get your shit pushed in
[22:47:56] <nick> lack of progression
[22:48:26] <nick> thats what i think they're using the cinematic sequences to replace
[22:48:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. been giving openmw a try lately. it's almost passable.
[22:48:39] <SirFinkus> new release any day now
[22:48:58] <SirFinkus> they're tossing together a rc for 0.37 right now
[22:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> .37, i heard.
[22:49:22] <SirFinkus> I'm waiting on that
[22:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> also heard most of the linux games are on sale on steam right now.
[22:59:21] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes the eds
[23:00:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> either there's a conspiracy against me or i have really bad luck. my stories always seem to come out when i'm gonna be asleep.
[23:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably Bytram's fault.
[23:13:03] <SirFinkus> "What you NEEEEEEEEEED with a woman? She'll neEEEVER do anything she says"
[23:26:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Using Sound Waves to Move Data - http://sylnt.us - what-about-an-echo
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