#Soylent | Logs for 2015-11-20
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[00:17:04] <chromas> ooh, does the dept field support emojis?
[00:17:35] <chromas> From the ðŸ˜ðŸš‘ dept
[00:21:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes
[00:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i tested it several times with posts from the 💩dept.
[00:26:36] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:27:20] <Bytram> drat! After setting up HexChat on my new box, I seem to have lost the setting that gave me extended UTF-8 chars. :(
[00:27:31] * Bytram looks at font settings
[00:28:01] * Bytram notes his main font was set to Consolas 10
[00:28:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, you got a new computer?!
[00:28:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> one that could run a vm if we had a vm to run?
[00:29:13] * Bytram sets font to be: Unifont CSUR Medium 12
[00:29:23] <Bytram> nod nod
[00:29:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoos!
[00:29:34] <Bytram> got it back around independence day.
[00:29:53] <Bytram> man, what an UGLY font! and I still don't see the chars
[00:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> !? and you ain't been deving? slacker!
[00:30:02] <Bytram> rom the 💩dept.
[00:30:08] <Bytram> yep, still don't see it.
[00:30:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> unifont CSUR upper
[00:30:21] <chromas> does gtk not do font substitution? /me spanks gtk--
[00:30:26] <Bytram> I been deving! Why did you think I've been asking you all those git questions?
[00:30:36] * Bytram tries again
[00:30:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, apparently not
[00:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe it does and Bytram just broke something
[00:31:01] <chromas> maybe gtk3 does. is anything besides guhnome using it yet
[00:31:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, some stuffs
[00:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a lot
[00:31:39] <Bytram> hmm, now it displays the Pile-of-Poo, but, blech on the proportional font.
[00:31:41] <chromas> if it does then you should be able to use any font and it'll just find another one for characters that aren't supported by your choice
[00:32:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's not a proportional font, it's a fixed width one.
[00:32:16] <chromas> blech on the fixed-width font ;)
[00:32:21] <SirFinkus> man, albert collins is the king of mutes
[00:32:27] <SirFinkus> I think he's my favorite guitarist now
[00:32:38] <Bytram> current setting is: Unifont Upper CSUR Medium 12
[00:32:41] * chromas is using ITC Benguiat
[00:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> try noto if you want a variable width font
[00:34:01] <Bytram> My Unifont font choices are: Unifont; Unifont CSUR; Unifont Upper; Unifont Upper CSUR
[00:34:54] <Bytram> yeah, I remember having it be a fixed-width font before. And ISTR I had had Unifont Upper CSUR as my prev font.
[00:34:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not unifont, noto
[00:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> variable width font from google with almost as many glyphs as unifont
[00:35:26] <Bytram> I'm aware.
[00:35:57] <Bytram> it's not so much that it is proportional, it's that it's San Serif.
[00:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[00:36:51] <Bytram> Huh? that was interesting!
[00:37:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, you find a hamster in your sock?
[00:38:10] <Bytram> Nah, I had a typo and it appeared to me that I had posted somehting here with a different nick
[00:38:28] <Bytram> I was trying to do something like: /me says stuff
[00:38:45] <Bytram> and, instead did: /m esays stuff
[00:39:04] <Bytram> and I saw: >esays< stuff
[00:39:11] <chromas> is /m a shortcut for /msg ?
[00:39:18] <Bytram> where '>esays<' appeared in the 'name' column
[00:39:26] <Bytram> that's what I was wondering
[00:40:20] <chromas> try /help -i for "full list of commands what what they do"
[00:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> urg
[00:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> twelve tacos
[00:40:42] <chromas> tacos++
[00:40:42] <chromas> ++tacos
[00:40:42] <Bender> karma - tacos: 10
[00:40:42] <NetCraft> Karma - tacos: 1
[00:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> tacos++
[00:40:47] <Bender> karma - tacos: 11
[00:41:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> tacocat++
[00:41:04] <Bender> karma - tacocat: 1
[00:41:14] <chromas> #find tacocat
[00:41:14] <MrPlow> http://www.tacocatdotcom.com
[00:41:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> tacocat == palindrome
[00:41:36] <Bytram> tacocat ==> gododog
[00:41:46] <chromas> there's no taco in the logo, but two pizzas. surely there was room for a taco in there
[00:42:04] <chromas> if those can even be called pizzas
[00:42:11] * Bytram is gonna try 'Lucida Sans Unicode'
[00:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> also taco is what my cat, rocko, gets called often
[00:43:09] <Bytram> that font was better to look at, but lacked P.f.P.
[00:43:21] <chromas> taco's modern life
[00:43:26] <Bytram> s/.f./.o./
[00:43:26] <sedctl> <Bytram> that.o.nt was better to look at, but lacked P.f.P.
[00:43:40] <Bytram> that font was better to look at, but lacked P.o.P.
[00:43:46] <Bytram> back to consolas for now
[00:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy. ima grab a coke and a smoke and lay down until i can move again
[00:44:09] <chromas> your regex-fu has become weak, Bytram-san
[00:44:56] <Bytram> regedx-fu is fine; powers of observation and typing ability severely downgraded after working 7 days straight
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[00:58:42] <Ethanol-fueled> They say that there are some terrorists in L.A. who will attack soon...
[00:58:49] <Ethanol-fueled> to that I say...GOOD.
[01:00:25] <Ethanol-fueled> As long as they keep it in L.A.
[01:01:15] <Ethanol-fueled> IF they could wipe out L.A. and the surrounding suburbs that would be great.
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[01:09:10] <SirFinkus> Ethanol-Fueled has been listening to too much Ænima lately I think
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[01:19:16] <Bytram|away> time to call it a night.
[01:19:21] <Bytram|away> have a good night, everyone!
[01:19:49] <SirFinkus> night Bytram|away
[01:20:50] <SpallsHurgenson> sleepy time already?
[01:30:37] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.computerworld.com right hand doesn't know what left hand is doing
[01:30:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03Feds fund encryption apps that could cloak terrorists | Computerworld
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[01:33:08] * SpallsHurgenson finishes Baldurs Gate and casts about for something to do
[01:33:38] <cmn32480> #submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[01:33:40] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[01:34:10] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[01:34:16] <cmn32480> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[01:34:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Uranus might be full of surprises - The Washington Post ( https://www.washingtonpost.com )
[01:34:22] <SpallsHurgenson> odd, my proctologist said the same thing
[01:34:30] <cmn32480> let the jokes begin
[01:34:58] <cmn32480> why was your proctologist talking about my anus?
[01:36:51] <SpallsHurgenson> you can't get him to stop talking about Uranus.
[01:38:27] <cmn32480> I can't wait until I flesh that out adn it goes live on the site
[01:38:41] <cmn32480> the comment thread ought to be one big bucket os ass jokes
[01:39:24] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, what bot are you on about being on drugs? Bender is currently the #rss-bot which I know causes issues (and I will get around to changing). Regurgitator was the original #rss-bot but also lurks in here to provide Eggdrop logs for pisg stat pages http://stats.sylnt.us Just noticed Diego (PieSpy) did not recover after the last reboot... shows how much anyone looks at those stick charts :D
[01:39:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03#soylent @ irc.soylentnews.org stats by juggs
[01:40:41] <SpallsHurgenson> there is no TMB here, only Zuul!
[01:41:38] <Deucalion> He'll get it on scrollback you mad fridge dwelling despot!
[01:43:53] <SpallsHurgenson> even though I started it, it took me a long time to get the fridge-dwelling despot reference :)
[01:46:48] <Deucalion> :D Never underestimate the Stay Puft marshmallow monster!
[01:47:15] <Deucalion> Ye gads - now I have a Ghostbusters ear worm
[01:47:28] <Deucalion> who ya gonna call..... AAARGH!!
[01:48:26] <takyon> it's GMO time
[01:49:00] <SpallsHurgenson> genetically modified organism time?
[01:49:28] <Deucalion> Hmm... I commented out Diego from starting automagically for some reason... wish I could recall why :/
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[01:51:27] <Deucalion> ~g'day diego
[01:51:34] <Deucalion> boo no exec
[01:51:56] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[01:51:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03Genetically Modified Salmon Is Safe To Eat, FDA Says : The Salt : NPR
[01:52:59] <Deucalion> Genetically modified to be disease resistant when raised in the over populated salmon farms?
[01:53:35] <takyon> no
[01:53:38] <takyon> grow twice as fast
[01:54:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Refuses to Give Up On Google+ - http://sylnt.us - why-won't-this-just-die
[01:55:17] <Deucalion> grow twice as fast, have half the taste and nutritional value no doubt. :(
[01:57:40] <Deucalion> diego back up and churning out stick chart images no-one looks at again! http://stats.sylnt.us Yay for diego... or something :D
[01:57:40] <NetCraft> ^✓ 03SoylentNews - PieSpy Relationship Map - #soylent
[01:59:32] * Deucalion wonders if SpallsHurgenson has run off to find a torrent of the original Ghostbusters movie... I re-watched it a year or so back, it's still funny in a kind of kitsch and "of it's era" way :D
[02:02:59] * SpallsHurgenson has it on dvd, thank-you-very-much
[02:05:25] <Deucalion> not betamax??? sheesh
[02:11:19] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, what did you make of The Long Dark? I picked it up recently and put a few hours in...
[02:12:28] <SpallsHurgenson> was that the early-access survival-in-a-winter-wilderness game?
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[02:13:35] * SpallsHurgenson visits the store page to check... yup
[02:14:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I played it months and months ago... it was too feature-incomplete for me. If you like the hard survival aspects, I guess its okay, but I'm waiting for story mode :)
[02:14:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I need a reason to drag my virtual carcass into the blinding and freezing weather :)
[02:16:28] <chromas> to get away from the evil Pantscellor
[02:17:28] <SpallsHurgenson> there's no such thing! That's just a story they tell to scare free-wanderers like myself! :)
[02:17:59] <SirFinkus> well, I can cast recall 52% of the time, so I guess I can venture further out in the wilderness now
[02:18:17] <chromas> wlel it turns out that's just the first monster. Later you must fight Dr Pantaloon
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[02:28:15] * SpallsHurgenson curses loudly for a completely unrelated reason
[02:28:36] <SirFinkus> disturbing ingredients: "beef" "pork"
[02:28:57] <cmn32480> what no chicken?
[02:28:59] <SirFinkus> just non-specific meat
[02:29:24] <SirFinkus> whenever I see that, I just assume it's the asshole
[02:29:40] <cmn32480> ahhh... the stuff left over after scrapple
[02:30:14] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, uranus is scrapple?
[02:30:27] <SirFinkus> well, mine is the best cut
[02:30:38] <cmn32480> that is why it is full of surprises
[02:30:52] <cmn32480> kinda like when I drink milk, but that makes the surprise come out!@
[02:31:09] <SirFinkus> I always have loose stools, so it's tender like veal
[02:31:19] <SirFinkus> and massaged like kobe beef
[02:31:28] <SirFinkus> fed only the finest grains
[02:31:42] <cmn32480> try tightening the screws that hold the legs on. that shoudl make your stools firmer
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[02:36:37] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, yes the survival in winter game. It seems complete-ish now. I'm playing on newb level to grasp the mechanics... nearly died a few times lost in blizzards and fog but once I got a feel for the map I recovered OK and now have a base camp with fishing nearby, a place to snare bunnies and firewood sources at hand. The first 14 or so game days are awful as you try to establish yourself and get the lie of the land, after that.... thi
[02:36:38] <Deucalion> ngs are not so tough.
[02:36:42] * SpallsHurgenson mutters naughty words in reference to certain people who are lucky not to be present
[02:37:19] <JamesNZ> Language!
[02:38:42] <SirFinkus> they aren't lucky, if they heard the words they'd have the benefit of knowing what you thought about them
[02:38:50] <cmn32480> yes... our common language barrier... we know.
[02:40:19] <Deucalion> Always carry a bedroll, some food and some water - if a storm rolls in... get in the bed roll and kip rather than aimlessly wander the woods (you'll freeze). I swear the 1st 14 days were all blizzards and fog, lost in the woods... now (day 21) the weather has lightened up, I have a base camp and have crafted all manner of animal derived clothing that helps enormously with chill protection :D
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[02:42:39] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, warning - it is a slow burner though. I reckon on about 1 real hour to one game day at this point. So play an hour a day and it becomes an alter-ego :D
[02:43:04] <SpallsHurgenson> survival-games aren't really my thing. I like stories :)
[02:46:18] <Deucalion> Apparently story mode is on its way - appears in the menu even. I'm rather liking being free to roam and explore at my own pace right now. I like stories on the one hand but on the other I hate how it puts the gameplay on rails. ~shrug~ Hope they keep both Story and Sandbox options - will suit us all :D
[02:47:08] <SpallsHurgenson> if there's gonna be some force torturing the players for fun, I want to be that force (that's why I'm the DM :)
[02:53:26] <Deucalion> wut?
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[02:58:53] <SpallsHurgenson> roll a 21 on a d20 or your character dies!!!! muahahahahaha!
[02:59:06] <Deucalion> Your enemy is the cold and lack of food.... in newb mode it pays to watch the wolves hunt down deer then chase off the wolf and harvest the deer corpse.... in proper mode the wolf would attack you so you would need a rifle to kill the wolf... and the rifle sucks - it's about as accurate at aiming as me after 27bazillion beers would be... get used to sight in, line up, shoot, miss .. repeat
[03:15:35] * SpallsHurgenson dons a nuclear-powered climate-controlled battle-suit and rains computer-directed plasma-fire on the wolf from 3.7 miles away
[03:21:02] <SpallsHurgenson> jest like me granpappy used t' do!
[03:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The End of Antibiotics - http://sylnt.us - ruh-roh
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[03:38:53] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, another reason to panic!
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[03:53:27] <cmn32480> and I'm spent!
[03:53:34] <cmn32480> good night one and all.
[03:53:56] <chromas> sounds dirty
[03:54:06] <cmn32480> it was meant that way
[03:54:07] <chromas> typical man, going to sleep right after
[03:54:11] <SpallsHurgenson> innuendo? in this channel?
[03:54:16] <cmn32480> now get your mind out of the gutter chromas
[03:54:43] <cmn32480> never happened SpallsHurgenson
[03:54:49] <cmn32480> if it did I musta missed itr
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[03:55:08] <cmn32480> ah crap... there goes the neighborhood
[03:56:31] * cmn32480 was thinking of trying to get a copy of exec running
[03:56:32] <SpallsHurgenson> you have a thing against dirty kiwis cmn32480? :)
[03:56:48] <cmn32480> nope... just ones with bedbugs.
[03:57:03] <cmn32480> right JamesNZ?
[03:58:41] <chromas> http://www.nbcnews.com
[03:58:41] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03Anonymous and ISIS Trade Barbs, Threats as Cyber War Escalates - NBC News
[03:58:49] <chromas> cyberwar!
[03:59:01] <cmn32480> plausibly better than a shooting war
[03:59:19] <cmn32480> if that gets subbed there are at least 2 other sin the queue that can get merged with ti
[03:59:35] <chromas> #submit http://www.nbcnews.com
[03:59:36] <MrPlow> 500 Can't connect to www.nbcnews.com:80 (Bad hostname)
[03:59:38] <chromas> whew
[03:59:39] <chromas> aw
[03:59:51] <chromas> #submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[04:00:11] <cmn32480> a bug>
[04:00:16] <cmn32480> #reload
[04:00:21] <MrPlow> 500 read timeout
[04:00:28] <chromas> bot's probably on a smoke break too
[04:00:40] <cmn32480> which kind is the question
[04:01:00] <chromas> #submit https://www.nbcnews.com:443
[04:01:20] <chromas> oh well. I tried
[04:01:30] <MrPlow> 500 read timeout
[04:01:54] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[04:01:55] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03SN Submission by tt0049366: EBay Scammer Steals Identity of Special Agent Investigating Him
[04:01:59] <cmn32480> that is hilarious
[04:02:29] <cmn32480> #submit http://www.nbcnews.com
[04:02:29] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[04:02:43] <cmn32480> obviously it likes me better....
[04:02:59] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[04:03:49] <chromas> #socialist MrPlow
[04:03:49] <MrPlow> MrPlow, you're a socialist!
[04:05:13] <cmn32480> ok
[04:05:14] <cmn32480> time for bed
[04:05:23] <cmn32480> #socialist chromas
[04:05:23] <MrPlow> chromas, you're a socialist!
[04:05:35] <chromas> night sir
[04:05:56] <cmn32480> pleasant dreams everybody!
[04:06:09] <chromas> ooh, with a little regex, we could use MrPlow to call each other all sorts of isms
[04:07:21] <chromas> #socialist DrPantaloons
[04:07:21] <MrPlow> DrPantaloons, you're a socialist!
[04:08:03] <chromas> s/\#.*(ist) /terror\1/
[04:08:03] <sedctl> <chromas> terroristDrPantaloons
[04:08:24] * chromas decrements his regex skill by 1
[04:09:05] <chromas> s/( ).*( )/fame/4
[04:15:58] <chromas> hehe
[04:16:10] <chromas> s💩e💩a💩*
[04:16:13] <chromas> s💩e💩a💩
[04:16:14] <sedctl> <chromas> s💩a💩a💩*
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[04:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[04:27:19] <chromas> that "ultimate hacking keyboard" needs a numpad
[04:27:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Indeed.
[04:27:42] <chromas> from the sn queue: https://www.crowdsupply.com
[04:27:43] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03Ultimate Hacking Keyboard | Crowd Supply
[04:27:54] <Ethanol-fueled> ANd split ergonomic keyboards have ALWAYS sucked.
[04:28:29] <Ethanol-fueled> and what's up with those 80's era Alphanumeric LCDs on the top left segment? Why 3?
[04:28:52] <Ethanol-fueled> "A Goy and his sheckels are soon parted" -- Jewish proverb
[04:29:50] <chromas> goys shouldn't have sheckels anyhow. sheckels are for YHWH's Chosen
[04:30:04] <Deucalion> I can't abide a keyboard without a numpad.....
[04:30:06] <chromas> goyim
[04:30:13] <Ethanol-fueled> You'd think somebody could fit one of those thumbnail-size arduinos and an LCD innit.
[04:30:39] <Ethanol-fueled> I can't either, Deucalion. All my numeric entries are done with a numpad
[04:30:53] <chromas> holy shit I just noticed no real F-keys either
[04:31:01] <chromas> fn_based_fkeys--
[04:31:01] <Bender> karma - fn_based_fkeys: -1
[04:31:47] <Ethanol-fueled> See, guys...this is a classic textbook case of nerds inventing things.
[04:31:55] <chromas> this is a rehearsal. everyone remember your comments for when it gets posted
[04:32:24] <Ethanol-fueled> It's like that time Homer Simpson designed that car.
[04:32:31] <chromas> I'd think a real nerd would've put in at least 36 F-keys
[04:32:34] <Deucalion> Oh my - we're on the Semitic thing again.... I'm off to bed.. sleep is underrated.
[04:33:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, that's all the anti-semitism I'm going to be doing here tonight.
[04:33:58] <Ethanol-fueled> it literally looks like somebody jigsawed a generic $5 keyboard and super-glued a phone cord to it.
[04:34:20] <Ethanol-fueled> The bar for raising 200K is pretty low these days...so if you are looking for funding ideas...
[04:34:50] <chromas> we could raise funds to implement Homer's car
[04:35:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll give you an idea. I was going to save it to make money on it, but I'm lazy, so merry christmas.
[04:35:57] <Ethanol-fueled> a handheld wireless mouse shaped like an egg, with a trackball for the thumb, buttons for the forefingers, and a laser-pointer for presentations.
[04:36:12] <chromas> Raise $10,000 to fund rewriting soylent code; swap it out for pipecode and abscond with the dollars
[04:36:21] <richardboegli> Ethanol-fueled: and chromas: I've actually pre-ordered the keyboard
[04:36:24] <richardboegli> cannot wait
[04:36:41] <richardboegli> its exactly what I've been waiting for....
[04:36:52] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, pipecode is pretty.
[04:37:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'
[04:37:09] <richardboegli> they've just added the ability to have a touchpad / nub etc...
[04:37:20] * SpallsHurgenson mutters about missing files, incorrectly named files and duplicate files...
[04:37:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd give SN 5/10 for prettiness, pipedot 8/10...but I don't visit SN for the pretty.
[04:38:07] <chromas> pipedot is the G+ to SN's facebook
[04:38:16] <chromas> it's better but it doesn't haz the users
[04:38:19] <richardboegli> chromas: lol
[04:38:29] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, and the stories are too aspie-specific.
[04:38:38] <chromas> much like G+
[04:38:39] <richardboegli> techincally better doesn't always win
[04:38:40] <Ethanol-fueled> politics = arguments = more users.
[04:39:02] <richardboegli> plan9 anyone....
[04:39:08] <chromas> they should add a numpad module to that keyboard
[04:39:23] <richardboegli> chromas: it's open hardware, so someone will come up with it
[04:39:41] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, I wouldn't buy or even fund that monstrosity even if it had a pocket-pussy attached to it.
[04:40:33] <richardboegli> lol
[04:40:46] <Ethanol-fueled> "repairable". Well, shit, my 5-dollar china-made special is "repairable"
[04:40:54] <richardboegli> Ethanol-fueled: have you considered inventing a keyboard, you might be onto something with that idea
[04:41:00] <chromas> well what about a pocket pussy with a keyboard attached?
[04:41:03] <richardboegli> might be able to raise a $1B :P
[04:41:59] <Ethanol-fueled> richardbogeli, what would make sense is a keyboard with the usual functions plus extra functions, with a wireless connection to a pocket pussy mounted to a bracket which would be easily installed under any desk.
[04:42:40] <richardboegli> Ethanol-fueled: LOL
[04:42:46] <richardboegli> I think you are onto something there
[04:42:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Press a hotkey, and the pockey pussy goes into "pee mode", and you can urinate into the pockey pussy while light suction siphones your urine into a large 5-gallon receptable.
[04:42:58] <richardboegli> just need a prototype and kickstart it!
[04:43:13] <Ethanol-fueled> With a fridge nearby, you could be at your desk for days, maybe even weeks with the upgrade package, and all without leaving.
[04:43:36] <richardboegli> I'm glad I am part of the soylet community
[04:43:39] <Ethanol-fueled> For those hardcore EVE raids
[04:43:50] <richardboegli> this is hilarious :D
[04:43:55] <Ethanol-fueled> or whatever they're called nowadays.
[04:43:57] <richardboegli> nice meeting you Ethanol-fueled and chromas
[04:45:08] <Ethanol-fueled> the chair would have to be like a porta-potty though, for feces. Shit, it's always those damn feces that are the problem.
[04:45:19] <chromas> http://9front.org
[04:45:20] <DrPantaloons> ^ 039FRONT.ORG THE PLAN FELL OFF
[04:45:43] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: think more nerdy
[04:45:49] <richardboegli> hehe
[04:46:30] <chromas> the chair has a small receptacle with a removeable module. when it's full, I just swap it for a new one I got from amazon and mail the old one back for recycling
[04:46:46] <chromas> kids in china can deal with it
[04:46:49] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that would mean that the user has to get up from their seat.
[04:46:59] <chromas> not if it's got motorized eject
[04:47:08] <chromas> like those old floppy drives
[04:47:08] <richardboegli> hot swappable
[04:47:13] <Ethanol-fueled> They could swap out their crap-receptacle and all their ships and golds are lost in the raid.
[04:48:21] <richardboegli> i'd like to continue this conversation, but I have to go
[04:48:23] <Ethanol-fueled> That is a good point...however, a compromise is possible -- they could reacharound back and and the swapping of the receptable could be handled automatically or manually.
[04:48:36] <richardboegli> bbl
[04:48:57] <Ethanol-fueled> A smart nerd would do it while their on-screen character is swapping out the magazine.
[04:49:06] <Ethanol-fueled> *Click-click* *click-click*
[04:49:10] <chromas> a magazine of receptacles, so I feel like I'm a cool dude playing with guns
[04:49:31] * chromas cocks his chair
[04:49:53] <Ethanol-fueled> It's gotta be a metallic "click" though...maybe put a metallic lever or wheel in it...
[04:50:22] <Ethanol-fueled> because plastic clicks aren't nearly as cool-sounding.
[04:50:30] <Ethanol-fueled> and not the same tactile response, either.
[04:56:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mysterious Communication Connections by Top 500 Android Apps Have No Effect On User Experience - http://sylnt.us - stop-spying-on-me
[05:04:09] * SirFinkus 's ears perk up at "reacharound"
[05:06:18] <JamesNZ> Indeed cmn32480 ;)
[05:21:53] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn = semen
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[05:56:44] <swiss> man, EF really kickstarts the channel
[05:57:41] <SpallsHurgenson> some people have apparently never learned not to feed the troll
[05:58:25] <swiss> i mean, he's not the bad kind of troll
[05:58:40] <swiss> i've rarely felt that he insulted me, or attacked me
[05:59:06] <swiss> more the kind of person that just argues against anything said
[05:59:23] <swiss> and says things so incredibly crazy that you feel wrong NOT responding
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[06:00:37] <SpallsHurgenson> hence, troll
[06:04:47] <swiss> but not the negative kind
[06:04:50] <swiss> i enjoy him
[06:09:20] <SpallsHurgenson> may I recommend bashing your head with a heavy mallet instead? :)
[06:09:37] <SpallsHurgenson> same effect, slightly less disruptive :)
[06:18:34] <JamesNZ> EF is harmless; weird, but harmless.
[06:18:55] <SpallsHurgenson> all trolls are harmless
[06:19:19] <JamesNZ> I take you don't like him? :P
[06:19:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I ignore trolls in general
[06:20:34] * JamesNZ trolls SpallsHurgenson mercilessly
[06:20:36] <SpallsHurgenson> some make the list quicker than others :)
[06:21:31] * SpallsHurgenson definitely doesn't see JamesNZ attempting to troll
[06:22:18] <JamesNZ> Good trolls bide their time.
[06:22:29] <JamesNZ> Waiting for just the right moment to infuriate.
[06:23:01] <SpallsHurgenson> definitely; I can APPRECIATE a good troll. ethanal-fuels is not a good troll; he's lazy and obvious.
[06:23:14] <SpallsHurgenson> a good troll actually makes you think :)
[06:23:37] <JamesNZ> Recent troll: https://www.youtube.com
[06:23:37] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03Cassidy Boon is the biggest TROLL ever - YouTube
[06:27:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - YouTube to Legally Protect Certain Clearly Fair Use Videos from Bogus DMCA Takedowns - http://sylnt.us - taking-down-takedowns
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[06:53:32] <crutchy_> g'day #soysauce
[06:54:05] <crutchy_> i concur that takeaway here can be fkin ripoff
[06:54:16] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy_
[06:54:25] <JamesNZ> ~g'day crutchy_
[06:54:37] * JamesNZ taps foot impatiently
[06:54:38] <crutchy_> 404 butt not found
[06:55:26] <crutchy_> i'll wake it up in a bit when i gets mah dinner and get home
[06:55:55] <crutchy_> currently in the process of being price-raped
[06:56:05] <JamesNZ> Oh dear :P
[06:56:23] * crutchy_ orders an extra side of lube
[06:56:59] <SirFinkus> god, I hate it when people don't put file download size info next to the download link
[06:58:54] <crutchy_> prolly not an issue if the file is named "400TB_LED-powered-DDoS.exe"
[06:59:52] <crutchy_> coffee++
[06:59:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1890
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[07:16:56] * crutchy is eating an american chicken burger
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[07:19:23] <crutchy> the don is starting to show his true stripes: http://www.cbsnews.com
[07:19:24] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03Election 2016: Donald Trump is not ruling out using databases to track Muslims - CBS News
[07:19:44] <crutchy> donald neocon trump
[07:20:22] <crutchy> had to happen eventually
[07:20:48] <crutchy> donald republocrat trump
[07:27:46] <chromas> what makes a chicken burger american?
[07:28:12] <chromas> is it american-style or is it like 50 wings and a pound of bacon?
[07:29:55] <crutchy> ~g kfc zinger stacker
[07:29:57] <exec> [google] https://kfc.com.au
[07:31:07] <crutchy> $13 for a meal with that thing
[07:31:31] <crutchy> ~convert 13 aud usd
[07:31:32] <exec> 0313 AUD = 9.3548 USD
[07:32:20] <chromas> I want a burger now
[07:32:45] <crutchy> ciri: send burger to chromas
[07:34:16] <chromas> poor ci<tab>
[07:35:27] <crutchy> ~say <#> ciri: chromas wants to eat a furburger
[07:45:57] <chromas> https://soylentnews.org
[07:45:58] <DrPantaloons> ^ 03SN Submission by HughPickens.com: The War on Campus Sexual Assault Goes Digital
[07:46:03] <chromas> from the social-justice dept
[07:47:14] * chromas puts on a fedora and holds up an "I need feminism because" sign
[07:48:53] * SirFinkus gets popcorn
[07:53:20] * JamesNZ dips into the popcorn
[07:57:28] * SirFinkus had a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bucket
[07:59:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Making the Censors Watch Paint Dry - http://sylnt.us - as-a-backdrop-to-passersby
[08:56:57] <chromas> from the fast-forward dept
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[09:30:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meet Lenny, the Bot that Tricks and Tortures Telemarketers - http://sylnt.us - turing-test-contestant?
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[11:01:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JWST Primary Mirror Starting To Come Together - http://sylnt.us - coming-into-focus
[11:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, nevermind, thought Regurgitator was still supposed to be regurgitating
[11:17:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:17:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1891
[11:49:59] <Popeidol> did somebody say REGURGITATOR?
[11:50:18] <Popeidol> https://www.youtube.com
[11:50:18] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Regurgitator - Polyester Girl - YouTube
[12:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Popeidol, gracias. that was just what my brain needed to get going this morning.
[12:18:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... it'd be much better to have one cache reader object than to create a new connection every time we need to make a request.
[12:32:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FDA Approves a GMO Animal for Human Consumption for the First Time - http://sylnt.us - something-fishy-here
[12:40:23] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:40:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1892
[12:41:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:41:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1893
[12:41:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, cmn32480
[12:41:55] <cmn32480> how goes buzzard?
[12:42:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, movin right along on memory caching
[12:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> not "top form" moving right along but definite motion
[12:42:53] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[12:42:54] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Movin' Right Along - HQ - The Muppet Movie - YouTube
[12:44:18] <cmn32480> hmmmm kermiot p[lays banjo left handed
[12:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, he's sinister
[12:44:56] <cmn32480> like pau mccartneyt
[12:45:03] <cmn32480> nad I think Jimi Hendrix
[12:50:51] * TheMightyBuzzard debates
[12:52:43] <cmn32480> done fishing for the day already?
[12:52:48] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:56:31] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:56:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1894
[12:56:42] <Bytram> WindowsRebootRequired--
[12:56:42] <Bender> karma - windowsrebootrequired: -1
[12:56:46] <Bytram> !uid
[12:56:46] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5956, owned by alkaline2tough
[12:56:56] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:56:58] <exec> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 57°F, cloudy, wind NW at 5 mph, humidity 94% - Friday scattered showers (36°F:58°F), Saturday partly cloudy (40°F:48°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (34°F:54°F), Monday partly cloudy (31°F:42°F)
[12:57:05] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:57:07] <exec> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 54°F, light rain showers, wind S at 13 mph, humidity 94% - Friday rain (31°F:55°F), Saturday partly cloudy (35°F:49°F), Sunday partly cloudy (29°F:51°F), Monday partly cloudy (26°F:43°F)
[12:57:15] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:57:17] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 43°F, light rain showers, wind SE at 13 mph, humidity 91% - Friday rain (29°F:47°F), Saturday mostly sunny (30°F:40°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (28°F:42°F), Monday partly cloudy (23°F:34°F)
[12:57:30] <Bytram> rebooting... biab
[13:03:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, no fooshin today. still slightly sick and it's fookin cold out there and we needa go grocery shoppin this AM
[13:03:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[13:03:43] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy skies. High around 60F. Winds E at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Showers in the morning, then partly cloudy in the afternoon. Morning high of 53F with temps falling to near 40. Winds WNW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[13:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, all better
[13:22:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> the hell is going on with dev?
[13:25:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, someone been fucking with mysql looks like
[13:25:58] <cmn32480> prolly bytram
[13:31:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> what the bloody hell. someone uninstalled mysqld on dev
[13:31:59] <Bytram> cmn32480: though I *do* have a reputation to uphold, this time is wasn't me
[13:32:32] <cmn32480> uh huh... so you say.... buzzard.. check the logs
[13:32:44] <Bytram> cmn32480: prolly round and brown
[13:33:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i am checking the logs. i'm also seeing that mysqld is not installed on dev.
[13:33:58] <Bytram> bery?
[13:35:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> lithium
[13:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, no looks like it's installed in opt
[13:36:30] <Bytram> is that different from the other servers?
[13:36:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh
[13:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally we had been using the default mysql but mysql-cluster runs from /opt
[13:37:39] <Bytram> ahhh. thanks!
[13:37:59] <Bytram> kinda makes sense, when I think about it.
[13:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> somehow a library required by mysql-cluster got uninstalled from lithium
[13:43:39] <chromas> Maybe it's in /opt as well ;)
[13:48:47] <chromas> #submit http://betanews.com
[13:48:47] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[13:48:56] <Bytram> ~g NAND
[13:48:58] <exec> [google] https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:49:17] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:29] <takyon> the story nobody needs
[13:51:36] <takyon> although I was thinking of submitting this:
[13:51:46] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[13:51:47] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Volvo Partners With Microsoft To Bring HoloLens To Automotive Design And Showcasing
[14:03:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Redphone and TextSecure are now Signal - http://sylnt.us - tried-to-search-on-'Signal'-but-got-lots-of-noise || Radisson Hotel in Bamako, Mali Attacked; Gunmen Took 150+ Hostage - http://sylnt.us
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[14:04:31] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[14:05:42] <chromas> "Out of desperation, Sharp begs its own workers to buy Sharp products"
[14:05:46] <takyon> did the submit command always put your name in the queue?
[14:05:47] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[14:05:54] <chromas> "To ensure it doesn’t put too much pressure on its lower-paid workers, the company has even created a list recommending how much each employee should spend according to their position and income."
[14:06:02] <takyon> I thought it just said "exec" or something, but that one says chromas
[14:06:23] <Bytram|away> takyon: TheMightyBuzzard now has a #submit or somesuch that DOES include the nick
[14:06:25] <chromas> I used MrPlow, which does add the name
[14:06:43] <Bytram|away> I gtg; rebooting system for updates; back in a while.
[14:06:44] <takyon> what is Sharp, is that a company that makes flat screen displays and TVs?
[14:06:53] <chromas> Yeah
[14:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[14:07:00] <chromas> Electronics
[14:07:57] <takyon> "Sharp has at times also been the most popular mobile phone brand in the Japanese market, but is currently third biggest."
[14:08:05] <takyon> don't tell me they make android phones!
[14:08:48] <takyon> yup they do
[14:09:20] <takyon> Sharp SH-02F: Release on January 2014, 13M pixels CMOS camera, 4.52 inches 1080x1920 IGZO FHD (487 ppi), MSM8974 2.2GHz (Quad-core), 2GB RAM, 16GB ROM, Max 64GB microSDXC, Android 4.2.2
[14:09:40] <chromas> Japanese companies generally make everything you can possibly think of
[14:10:56] <chromas> #submit http://www.nbcnews.com
[14:10:56] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[14:11:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> greek sex = butt sex. greek yogurt = yogurt up the butt?
[14:11:26] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[14:11:57] <chromas> why do you think it's thicker?
[14:12:46] <takyon> yogurt submitted
[14:13:04] <takyon> yoghurt
[14:14:16] <chromas> submitted? so that's the surprise in Uranus
[14:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay. done playing with caching for the now. got a grocery list to make and more coffee to drink before shopping time.
[14:14:54] <takyon> there are many surprises in uranus
[14:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab takyon
[14:15:02] <Bender> Added quote 600
[14:15:05] <chromas> #submit http://www.eweek.com
[14:15:06] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[14:15:36] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[14:17:18] <chromas> oh that's pretty short
[14:17:36] <chromas> I guess grabbing a couple paragraphs would be hard because html sucks
[14:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes indeed. specially figuring out how to do it while sick.
[14:18:12] <chromas> Some sites have a <div class="article"> or something but someone should invent...a standard
[14:18:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[14:18:41] <takyon> you know why
[14:18:50] <takyon> I just checked the source on the eweek article
[14:18:55] <chromas> Now I feel bad for using #submit. Guess I shouldn't've checked the output
[14:19:01] <takyon> the byline or w/e is in the first <p></p>
[14:19:17] <takyon> the rest of the <p> elements are used as spacers between the "paragraph" text
[14:19:21] <takyon> it's bizarre
[14:19:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't snarf the first paragraph, i snarf the og:description
[14:20:06] <takyon> ok
[14:20:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause, really, there's no way in hell to tell what the first paragraph in the article actually is.
[14:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> first <p> could be something over in a side bar or down at the bottom. you just never know cause there is no standard.
[14:21:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:23:04] <takyon> jan man made it work with Arthur, but i'm pretty sure that's because he used a limited number of sources
[14:26:17] <chromas> I'm not sure how much work it would be, but it could collect the <div>s and see which one has the most <p>s, or strip the tags from the div contents and see which one has the most non-tag content
[14:27:38] * chromas takes a turn making a submit script
[14:29:59] <takyon> it's not a good idea unless you come up with a brilliant algorithm along those lines
[14:30:36] <takyon> I did a fancy thing where I check all the words in an article (but actually all visible text) to determine an appropriate tag for a story
[14:31:16] <takyon> that alone was a little hard (requiring fine tuning), and dumb. determining article text is next level
[14:36:21] <takyon> mod up: https://soylentnews.org
[14:36:22] <Telemarketron> ^ 03SN comment by [02kadal (4731)] (02Score:2)
[14:37:14] <takyon> we should have give a bot 5 a day mod capability
[14:37:17] <takyon> that would be funny
[14:39:49] <takyon> have it reply to the modded post saying who in IRC ordered it to mod up the post
[14:39:56] <takyon> or down
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[14:44:12] <takyon> http://www.hpcwire.com
[14:44:13] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Aeon Computing to Enhance LANL's Supercomputing Capabilities
[15:03:07] <Bytram|away> http://feeds.wired.com
[15:03:08] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Coinbase Just Debuted the First Bitcoin Debit Card in the US | WIRED ( http://www.wired.com )
[15:08:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOL wrong
[15:08:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, maybe if it actually rides over debit rails
[15:08:43] <Bytram|away> [citation needed]
[15:08:52] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[15:09:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> But I've personally seen at least three that ride on the credit rails
[15:09:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: https://www.shiftpayments.com
[15:09:23] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Shift Card
[15:09:36] <Bytram> annnnd, that's what this is about.
[15:09:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> I talked to Meg Nakamura, the founder of Shift Payments, last year.
[15:09:48] <Bytram> https://blog.coinbase.com
[15:09:49] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Introducing the Shift Card
[15:09:53] <Bytram> =)
[15:10:10] <Bytram> they are now rolling it out in 24 US states
[15:11:22] <Bytram> https://support.coinbase.com
[15:11:23] <Telemarketron> ^ 03Coinbase | What is the Shift Card?
[15:11:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> And the work that Shift did is based off work that my former boss did at Marqeta which let you spend BitCoin over Discover's network.
[15:11:59] <Bytram> nice!
[15:12:18] <Bytram> hey, would you like to submit the story? Sounds like you could add some nice perspective on the story!
[15:12:34] * Bytram has never used bitcoin
[15:13:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> I haven't either, but I've talked to a lot of people that are strong believers in it
[15:13:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> Frankly, their arguments sound like bullshit to me.
[15:15:17] <Bytram> I can see different sides of it, and there is much that I see that is advantageous about it, but I tend to be very conservative when it comes to money-related things -- far from an early adopter.
[15:15:52] <Bytram> of course, linking a bitcoin wallet to a VISA debit card might have some effect on your anonymity?
[15:16:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> I see it as people who object to fiat currency going to the one thing that is actually WORSE for value exchange than fiat currency.
[15:17:11] <Bytram> I can see that.
[15:17:12] <Bytram> http://sylnt.us
[15:17:13] <Telemarketron> ^ 03StevenBlack/hosts · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[15:17:29] <Bytram> hmmm, that didn't help much -- saw the link in #rss-bot
[15:17:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Extending and consolidating hosts files from a variety of sources like adaway.org, mvps.org, malwaredomains.com, someonewhocares.org, yoyo.org, and potentially others. "
[15:17:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Does that help?
[15:18:04] <Bytram> yep! thanks!
[15:18:21] <Bytram> I've been doing something similar on my own for many years
[15:18:42] <Bytram> MVPS, SpyBot, YoYo, and what I've seen mentioned in various news stories
[15:18:58] * Bytram goes to take a look
[15:19:19] <chromas> ...APK
[15:19:30] <Bytram> 31313 records
[15:19:32] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:21:24] <Bytram> i wonder how many entries are in the linked hosts file?
[15:21:27] * Bytram doewnloads
[15:22:09] <Bytram> well, his is certainly larger than mine.
[15:22:20] <cmn32480> !grab bytram
[15:22:20] <Bender> Added quote 601
[15:22:29] <Bytram> Ouch!
[15:22:34] <cmn32480> :-)
[15:22:52] <cmn32480> it was too easy!
[15:22:57] * Bytram has GOT to learn to use fewer pronouns on IRC!
[15:23:00] <cmn32480> !quote 601
[15:23:00] <Bender> Quote 601 - <bytram> well, his is certainly larger than mine.
[15:23:09] <Bytram> yeah. Soon as I saw the grab, I knew it.
[15:23:12] <Bytram> j
[15:23:19] <Bytram> that was close
[15:24:18] <Bytram> This is insane over 6MB in his hosts file and still downloading!
[15:24:49] <Bytram> wc hosts: 122379 404835 6574134 hosts
[15:25:12] <Bytram> oh, that was an HTML file.
[15:25:17] <Bytram> ?!!?
[15:26:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> forgot to click on the "RAW" link on github?
[15:27:19] <Bytram> I hovered on the entry for 'hosts' on https://github.com and...
[15:27:20] <Telemarketron> ^* 03StevenBlack/hosts · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[15:27:31] <Bytram> then got the URL it linked to, and did a wget of it.
[15:27:40] <Bytram> silly me to think that it was the actual hosts file. :/
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[15:29:53] <Ethanol-fueled> dropping a FOOTLONG BROWN SNAKE on your momma's chest.
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[15:31:39] <Bytram> okay, there are actually only 28133 entries
[15:33:09] <Bytram> with 23 entries repeated multiple times
[15:34:10] Telemarketron is now known as APK_McHOSTS
[15:34:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Forest Fires: Scientists Find Surprising Way to See Religious Effects From Space - http://sylnt.us - Give-me-a-break!-Oh-wait...
[15:35:50] <alexbst> heh
[15:36:48] <chromas> http://start64.com
[15:36:50] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-Bit
[15:39:58] <Bytram> giving a total of 28070 unique entries
[15:41:34] <Bytram> hmmm, I see both APK and StephenBlack hosts files use '0.0.0.0' instead of '127.0.0.1' -- is there a performance difference?
[15:43:34] <chromas> Supposedly
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[15:44:02] <Bytram> http://start64.com
[15:44:04] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 Officially Introduced with 64-Bit Kryo CPU, Adreno 530 GPU
[15:44:04] <chromas> Though the Internet says 0.0.0.0 only works on Windows
[15:44:46] <Bytram> guess I will stick with 127.0.0.1
[15:47:28] <Bytram> there is a bare entry for 'xq1.net' at line 29191 in https://github.com
[15:47:35] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03hosts/hosts at master · StevenBlack/hosts · GitHub
[15:47:53] <Bytram> but it appears in two other places as '0.0.0.0 xq1.net'
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[15:54:01] * Bytram also found an entry in the StevenBlack hosts file for advertiseireland.com which lacks an IP addr; line 29239
[15:54:38] <Bytram> but line 27989 DOES include an IP addr of 0.0.0.0
[16:07:11] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[16:07:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> Larry Wall clearly didn't intelligently design Perl, he just let it evolve.
[16:08:51] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: absolutely no argument from me on that one!
[16:08:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> $; $. $+ $/ $\ $" $` <-- All Perl special variables.
[16:09:08] <Bytram> or, at least from a user's perspective, it sure seems that way
[16:09:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:09:37] <Bytram> (Perl program) - (Line Noise) == 0
[16:09:37] <chromas> No $$ ?
[16:09:48] <Bytram> no workee no payee?
[16:09:50] <Bytram> =)
[16:10:24] <chromas> Maybe Perl 6 has $💩
[16:11:17] <chromas> I think the comment about 0.0.0.0 not working on Linux must be wrong
[16:12:07] <Bytram> how so?
[16:13:45] <chromas> It's not mentioned here: https://github.com
[16:13:45] <APK_McHOSTS> ^* 03StevenBlack/hosts · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[16:15:02] <chromas> I read it in the hosts Wikipedia talk page but I guess sometimes wp doesn't know all :)
[16:16:55] <Bytram> I don't have a network-connected linux box available, but it should be easy enough to test with one; just add an entry like: 0.0.0.0 google.com and see what happens.
[16:17:11] <chromas> uhhh, oh yeah
[16:17:14] <Bytram> do the same with 127.0.0.1 google.com
[16:17:16] <Bytram> =)
[16:17:39] * chromas peels off the dunce hat
[16:17:45] <chromas> testing++
[16:17:45] <Bender> karma - testing: 8
[16:17:49] <Bytram> LOL!
[16:18:01] <Bytram> teamwork++
[16:18:01] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 17
[16:18:24] * Bytram leans forward in anticipation of the hosts file test results
[16:19:11] <chromas> hm, do I need to restart the network or something?
[16:19:36] <chromas> oh. It blocked in firefox, but not when using the host command
[16:19:37] <Bytram> I dunno; on windows I've seen changes take effect immediately
[16:19:53] <Bytram> try pinging?
[16:20:39] <chromas> they both seem to work
[16:21:31] <Bytram> you mean they both seem to NOT work, the same way?
[16:21:35] <Bytram> ;)
[16:21:55] * Bytram removes pedantic hat
[16:22:22] <chromas> :D
[16:22:45] <chromas> They're both instant as far as I can tell. My hosts files're otherwise empty though
[16:23:07] <Bytram> ah, that 'splains it
[16:23:32] <chromas> well, to borrow your hat, I do have the default loopback entries for ipv4 and ipv6
[16:23:33] <Bytram> there is a potential issue in windows I read about LONG ago; has to do with DNS cacheing
[16:23:48] <Bytram> chromas: lol
[16:24:28] <Bytram> steve Gibson (Spinright author) was the one who brought it to my attention -- I wonder if it is still a valid issue?
[16:24:31] <chromas> I think the benefit of 0.0.0.0 over 127.0.0.1 is it won't hit your server if you're running one
[16:24:47] <chromas> been awhile since I read him
[16:24:56] <Bytram> fails a syntax check, as opposed failing a lookup?
[16:28:51] <chromas> Could be. Or it just points to nothing. Not sure
[16:29:28] <Bytram> same here. I've read a bunch of conflicting stuff on the 'net. Have yet to see a clear consensus.
[16:31:05] <Bytram> http://serverfault.com
[16:31:06] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03What's the difference between ip address 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.1? - Server Fault
[16:31:13] <Bytram> http://stackoverflow.com
[16:31:13] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03ip - What is the difference between 0.0.0.0, 127.0.0.1 and localhost? - Stack Overflow
[16:31:19] <Bytram> http://www.dslreports.com
[16:31:20] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03hosts: 127.0.0.1 vs. 0.0.0.0 - Security | DSLReports Forums
[16:31:28] <Bytram> http://www.howtogeek.com
[16:32:03] * Bytram starts clicking the harvested links
[16:32:49] <Bytram> http://serverfault.com
[16:32:51] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Is there an "official" name to the 0.0.0.0 IP address? - Server Fault
[16:37:34] <Bytram> http://it.slashdot.org
[16:37:36] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Anatomy of an Attempted Malware Scam - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
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[16:40:35] <Bytram> hhhmmmmmm
[16:40:35] <Bytram> http://www.mvps.org
[16:40:37] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03How To: MVPS Hosts File FAQ ( http://winhelp2002.mvps.org )
[16:41:17] <Bytram> Myth: there is no known documentation that proves a different prefix is faster than "127.0.0.1" ... yes "0.0.0.0" is a valid alternative for users that are running a Web Server. Over the years some people try to prove that (example - 255.255.255.255) one prefix if faster ... but they fail to see the big picture ... most major security products have the ability to scan the HOSTS file and they accept the prefix "127.0.0.1". What happens
[16:41:17] <Bytram> when one of these products has a fit when it encounters an unknown prefix? It's safer to stay with the "industry standard" of 127.0.0.1
[16:42:12] <chromas> Why are products scanning my hosts file?
[16:42:16] * chromas uninstalls them right away
[16:43:15] <chromas> I wonder if a forwarding dns server would be faster
[16:43:50] <Bytram> here's something I'd kinda forgotten...
[16:44:33] <Bytram> 0.0.0.0 is a convenience for entry of an IP Addr; one could just use '0', instead, as that is the resolved decimal address for that 4-octet address
[16:47:31] <Bytram> and, if I did my math right, 127.0.0.1 is equivalent to EF000000, which works out to decimal: 4009754624
[16:47:47] <chromas> oh yeah, didn't we used to be able to put the ip addresses in decimal form in browsers?
[16:47:56] <Bytram> still can!
[16:48:18] <chromas> 7F000000
[16:48:27] <Bytram> those are all just conveniences for representing a 64-bit number
[16:48:32] <chromas> I get a search result
[16:48:38] <chromas> maybe if I disable that
[16:48:53] <Bytram> umm, wait. 32-bit number
[16:50:04] <Bytram> strange. tried: ping 4009754624 and windows came back with "Pinging 239.0.0.0 with 32 bytes of data:" ...
[16:50:06] <chromas> We should switch to signed ints for ipv6 so it'll get adopted faster by artists and stuff
[16:50:08] <Bytram> ?
[16:50:12] <chromas> because they can use the negative space
[16:51:07] <chromas> try 2130706432
[16:51:23] <Bytram> curiouser and curiouser... ping 0xEF000000 comes back with the same thing! Pinging 239.0.0.0 ...
[16:52:00] <chromas> oh, 2130772225
[16:52:05] <chromas> I forgot the 1s
[16:52:17] <Bytram> this might [help] explain it:
[16:52:19] <Bytram> set /a x=0xEF000000
[16:52:21] <Bytram> produces:
[16:52:31] <Bytram> -285212672
[16:52:50] * chromas wonders if the entire 127 block is localhost
[16:53:19] <Bytram> I'm sure it's somewhere in an RFC
[16:53:28] <chromas> and if so, does that mean I could run everything on the same port, just with 127.0.0.1, 127.0.0.2, et cetera?
[16:54:02] <chromas> ping -c1 2130706433
[16:54:09] <chromas> PING 2130772225 (127.1.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[16:54:09] <chromas> 64 bytes from 127.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.033 ms
[16:54:16] <Bytram> RFC 67661, I think
[16:54:20] <Bytram> RFC 6761, I think
[16:54:38] <Bytram> see, also: RFC 3330
[16:54:53] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:54:54] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Wiki: localhost
[16:56:04] <chromas> https://searx.me
[16:56:06] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03about - searx
[16:56:12] <chromas> (offtopic)
[16:56:37] <Bytram> https://tools.ietf.org
[16:56:38] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03RFC 6761 - Special-Use Domain Names ( rfc6761.html )
[16:56:45] <Bytram> https://tools.ietf.org
[16:56:46] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03RFC 3330 - Special-Use IPv4 Addresses ( rfc3330.html )
[16:57:50] <Bytram> 127.0.0.0/8 - This block is assigned for use as the Internet host
[16:57:50] <Bytram> loopback address. A datagram sent by a higher level protocol to an
[16:57:50] <Bytram> address anywhere within this block should loop back inside the host.
[16:57:50] <Bytram> This is ordinarily implemented using only 127.0.0.1/32 for loopback,
[16:57:50] <Bytram> but no addresses within this block should ever appear on any network
[16:57:51] <Bytram> anywhere [RFC1700, page 5].
[16:58:06] <Bytram> and...
[16:58:07] <Bytram> 0.0.0.0/8 - Addresses in this block refer to source hosts on "this"
[16:58:08] <Bytram> network. Address 0.0.0.0/32 may be used as a source address for this
[16:58:08] <Bytram> host on this network; other addresses within 0.0.0.0/8 may be used to
[16:58:08] <Bytram> refer to specified hosts on this network [RFC1700, page 4].
[16:58:12] * chromas notices that all the new tabs in firefox are missing their labels
[16:58:30] * Bytram uses Pale Moon, instead
[16:58:49] <chromas> I think mine's got aids or something
[17:00:39] <Bytram> so, from what I have gleaned, so far, 127.0.0.1 is a *specific* IP loopback address; in certain cases 0.0.0.0 functions similarly, but is, in reality, a different entity in practice.
[17:01:10] <chromas> yeah it seems like 0.0.0.0 is kind of a black hole
[17:01:50] <chromas> except with servers, where using it binds your socket to all interfaces
[17:02:12] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[17:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> groceries accomplished
[17:02:23] <Bytram> bingo!
[17:02:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> breakfast pie accomplished as well
[17:02:32] <Bytram> ok, need a break. biab
[17:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive - http://sylnt.us - stomach-bugging-you?
[17:07:10] <Bytram> back
[17:08:12] <Bytram> btw, I noticed a minor mistake in my prior conversions... 127.0.0.1 is 0xEF000001 not 0xEF0000 :P
[17:09:05] <Bytram> ugh 127.0.0.1 == 0xEF000001 not 0xEF000000
[17:18:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, wtf are you doing now, Bytram?
[17:19:53] <Bytram> well, it all started with seeing a link in #rss-bot: "https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts/blob/master/hosts"
[17:19:53] <APK_McHOSTS> ^* 03hosts/hosts at master · StevenBlack/hosts · GitHub
[17:20:10] <Bytram> and, well, things just took on a life of its own after that
[17:20:24] <Bytram> which is better in a hosts file? 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1
[17:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't muck about with your hosts file
[17:20:42] <Bytram> apparently, that discussion is almost as interesting as vim vs emacs
[17:20:50] * Bytram smakes TheMightyBuzzard
[17:21:11] <cmn32480> oooo he smaked you!
[17:21:18] <Bytram> my hosts file is only 937KB in size
[17:21:19] <cmn32480> good think he didn't smack you too!
[17:21:23] <Bytram> lol
[17:21:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it proper if you're going to null the hosts. set entries for them in a local dns server.
[17:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> adding hosts to your hosts file slows lookups down.
[17:22:04] <Bytram> and, where would I find one of those?
[17:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, adding a lot of hosts to it does
[17:22:35] <Bytram> it just means that the local hosts server would have to look it up, just the same, right?
[17:22:40] <cmn32480> tftpd bytram
[17:22:56] <Bytram> on windows?
[17:23:04] <cmn32480> dunno if it'll do what you want though.
[17:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> reading from a text file is disk io. slow. reading from a network connection is much faster.
[17:23:10] <cmn32480> yup
[17:23:24] <Bytram> have you seen my network connection?
[17:23:27] <Bytram> ;)
[17:23:31] <cmn32480> tethered blackberry
[17:23:41] <cmn32480> 10k on a good day
[17:23:57] <Bytram> I avg 30-40 KB/sec; peak at about 90-100 KB/sec
[17:24:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> regardless, it's the wrong way to null route something.
[17:24:28] <cmn32480> somebody 2nd the Uranus story? I don't wanna be the only one with my name on it
[17:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:24:52] <Bytram> I am NOT gonna go near that story... nice try.
[17:24:52] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Wiki: Comparison of DNS server software
[17:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could but i'm not gonna. you lot don't want me editing.
[17:27:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> [Ed. note: Suck it, Trebek] on every article once I start down that road.
[17:29:15] <Bytram> so, are you saying you are a smart Alex? =)
[17:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, have a look at dnsmasq
[17:29:44] * Bytram DDG's dnsmasq
[17:30:20] <Bytram> http://www.thekelleys.org.uk
[17:30:20] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Dnsmasq - network services for small networks.
[17:31:23] <Bytram> Looks like windows is not supported:
[17:31:23] <Bytram> Supported platforms include Linux (with glibc and uclibc), Android, *BSD, and Mac OS X. Dnsmasq is included in most Linux distributions and the ports systems of FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. Dnsmasq provides full IPv6 support.
[17:31:38] <Bytram> =(
[17:32:09] * Bytram closes a gazillion tabs
[17:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> put it on your phone then
[17:34:18] <Bytram> phone is not a supported platform, either... /me wishes he had a phone that was just: *nux with an attached radio circuit for talk/data
[17:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> you using an iphone or something?
[17:38:41] <Bytram> come the new year, I should be in a position where I can get/afford high-speed internet... ATM my choice is TimeWarner or DSL.
[17:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch
[17:44:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[17:44:31] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: ISIS Operation Security Guide Gives Insight Into Group's Cybersecurity Practices
[17:44:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: yep.
[17:45:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of isis in the queue
[17:46:01] * Bytram notices had he lived elsewhere, he could sign up for gigabit for as little as $69.95/mo: http://www.gwi.net
[17:46:02] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03FASTfiber: Gigabit Internet via Fiber to the Home
[17:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just need to move to a town with google fiber
[17:47:28] <Bytram> as much as I would like the speed, I would prefer to NOT have google watching my every net connection.
[17:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas what god created vpns for
[17:49:17] * Bytram looks some more and finds he could get 20/1 Mbps for $49.95 + fees/month... http://www.gwi.net
[17:49:17] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Residential High speed Internet in Maine
[17:49:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> not bad. almost as good as what i got
[17:50:07] * Bytram could prolly through a rock and hit the telco facility from the front door of his apartment building
[17:50:12] <Bytram> s/through/throw/
[17:50:12] <sedctl> <Bytram> could prolly throw a rock and hit the telco facility from the front door of his apartment building
[17:50:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what do you have (for an internet connection)?
[17:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> 25/1
[17:51:07] <Bytram> expensive?
[17:51:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, $50/mo or so
[17:51:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:51:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no fees, just the price.
[17:52:13] <Bytram> so, do you mean you only pay $50 or so per month, or is that the price before all the fees?
[17:53:02] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[17:53:03] <exec> 10Melbourne VIC - currently 52°F, cloudy, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 88% - Saturday partly cloudy (52°F:63°F), Sunday partly cloudy (53°F:71°F), Monday partly cloudy (51°F:71°F), Tuesday sunny (56°F:81°F)
[17:53:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> only pay that. there are no fees
[17:53:12] <Bytram> NICE!
[17:53:46] <Bytram> there is talk of my current city bringing in gigabit for municipal purposes, and I'm another stone's throw from a school and a fire station.
[17:53:56] * Bytram wishes they would get moving on it!
[17:54:27] <Bytram> okay, time to get myself some food... back in a bit.
[17:59:45] <cmn32480> !quote 601
[17:59:45] <Bender> Quote 601 - <bytram> well, his is certainly larger than mine.
[18:03:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> !quote 543
[18:03:35] <Bender> Quote 543 - <juggs> Well if you would wear pants there would be less dangling particles Spalls.
[18:03:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> !quote 69
[18:03:57] <Bender> Quote 69 - <crutchy> i shall call him slashy and he will be mine... and he will be my slashy... here little slashy... DORY! THAT'S A PERL TURD! if you touch it you'll never get it off you!
[18:22:27] <cmn32480> i just had a guy ask me what it meant to print duplex and have the paper flip on the long side or the short side
[18:30:19] <swiss> what
[18:34:06] <cmn32480> I stared at him
[18:34:56] <cmn32480> took a piece of paper and ran my finger down one side and said "long side", ran my finger down the perpendicular side and said "short side"
[18:37:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Weather Modification Industry - http://sylnt.us - let-it-rain-or-not
[18:39:45] <swiss> lolol
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[20:08:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Western Digital, SanDisk, and the NAND Market - http://sylnt.us - flashing-the-future
[21:02:19] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:02:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1895
[21:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[21:02:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1896
[21:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
[21:03:05] <crutchy> g'day
[21:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> how's life on earth's butt?
[21:03:25] <crutchy> can't complian
[21:03:34] <crutchy> can't spell either apparenttly
[21:03:47] <crutchy> or type
[21:03:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> complain about your spelling then! problem solved.
[21:04:24] <crutchy> how's freedum command treatin ya?
[21:04:57] <crutchy> has there been a new alamo yet?
[21:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout to have a house fulla kids. just enjoying the quiet till then.
[21:05:09] <crutchy> ooh nasty
[21:05:19] <crutchy> i'd take the alamo over that anyday :p
[21:05:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well only two of em really but they fill up all available space like an egg fart
[21:05:59] <crutchy> ew
[21:06:17] <crutchy> true, but ew
[21:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> think me n the masculine child gonna work on some minecraft modding this week
[21:07:10] * crutchy donated some carbon dioxide to the rainforests just then
[21:07:39] <crutchy> ~say <#> tama, minecraft is a masculine game
[21:08:05] <crutchy> lol @ APK_McHOSTS
[21:08:15] <crutchy> chromas++
[21:08:15] <Bender> karma - chromas: 129
[21:09:44] <crutchy> first coffee of the day is always the best. if only there were a way to make first coffee last all day
[21:10:18] * crutchy needs to code some shit
[21:10:22] <cmn32480> crutchy - if you can't spell you are qualified to be an editor on this site
[21:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, very large cup
[21:10:53] <crutchy> hah. i'd infect the site with stupid if i were an editor
[21:11:21] <crutchy> tmb, with in-built heating element
[21:11:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Yeti makes one hell of a vacuum insulated cup. Comes in 10/20/30oz but you kinda gotta pay out the nose for it.
[21:11:46] <crutchy> hmm.. i think they exist already. they're called breasts
[21:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[21:12:36] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 29
[21:13:05] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[21:13:05] <APK_McHOSTS> ^✓ 03Euphoric Trance 11 - YouTube
[21:13:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though, their 30oz cup will keep iced tea not only cold overnight but cold enough that nearly all of the ice is still in it.
[21:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it keeps coffee hot just as long
[21:14:36] <crutchy> i remember trying one of those little usb cup warmers. it was shit, but at least i didn't pay for it
[21:15:08] * crutchy assumes there are probably less shit ones available that run on mains power
[21:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, you'd have to burn your usb out on your motherboard to get real heat at 3.5V
[21:16:23] <crutchy> they should make a computer with an external processor that has a max speed option called "coffee-warmer"
[21:16:33] <crutchy> stick your cuppa on the cpu
[21:16:48] <nick> kickstarter
[21:16:50] <crutchy> (c) patent pending etc
[21:17:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, water cooler with hoses over to where you put your cup and a copper water block
[21:18:06] <crutchy> could be the ultimate steampunk setup
[21:18:16] <nick> yes
[21:18:21] <nick> that would be cool
[21:18:27] <crutchy> use copper piping and an old school heat exchanger
[21:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> car radiator
[21:18:41] * crutchy has a feeling this may have already been done somewhere
[21:18:58] <crutchy> ~g water cooled pc steampunk
[21:19:00] <exec> [google] www.wired.com/2007/09/watercooled-ste/
[21:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're fucking doomed. i'm glad i'll be old and not give a shit by the time these fuckers are in office. http://www.pewresearch.org
[21:19:43] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 0340% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities | Pew Research Center
[21:20:39] * crutchy saw the some stadium of the future thing at the bottom of the wired page and suddenly wondered why stadiums aren't built into the ground instead of building up at huge expense and complexity
[21:21:21] <crutchy> i guess they tried it with ancient amphitheaters
[21:21:37] <crutchy> maybe the unions wanted more work
[21:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause moving tons of dirt and stone is harder than moving a quarter of that amount of stone.
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[21:22:55] <nick> the size of modern stadiums also, what you're digging into that deep
[21:23:11] <nick> flooding and drainage could be a concern maybe?
[21:23:12] <crutchy> maybe
[21:23:33] <crutchy> though digging holes is easy. yeah drainage could be an issue (unless you build on a hill)
[21:24:20] <crutchy> if you took the mass of steel and concrete in modern stadiums it would be interesting to compare to what might be required for an in-ground stadium
[21:24:41] <crutchy> not sure there would be much of a saving by building up top, mass-wise
[21:24:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> still need the concrete. otherwise it's a mud pit in the rain.
[21:25:32] <crutchy> hah. might make for awesome way to get to your seat :p
[21:25:58] <crutchy> 'thankyou sir. please slide down to seat 44A'
[21:26:40] <SirFinkus> I think drainage would be an issue
[21:26:47] <crutchy> prolly would still need deep foundations too
[21:27:18] <crutchy> though if the ancients could do it, it must be possible
[21:27:37] <crutchy> or the aliems
[21:28:54] <nick> The Wall Stadium (also nicknamed "The Laptop") is an underground stadium, currently under construction in Doha, Qatar.
[21:29:58] <nick> "An architect has come up with a concept for an underwater tennis complex in Dubai"
[21:30:20] <crutchy> wow. dubai is crazy
[21:30:21] <nick> bit more extravagant
[21:30:40] <crutchy> one day that city is gunna be a rusting wasteland
[21:30:45] <nick> doesnt seem like either project has moved quickly
[21:30:55] <nick> The Wall Stadium was supposed to be complete in 2010
[21:34:00] <SirFinkus> you know what humanity should really focus on?
[21:34:07] <crutchy> pants?
[21:34:19] <SirFinkus> making GODDAMN PIZZA ROLLS that don't burst when you put them in the oven
[21:34:35] <SirFinkus> I've managed it a few times, but it's like a 30 second window
[21:35:09] <crutchy> maybe we should focus on pizza ovens that cook pizza rolls that don't burst
[21:35:40] <crutchy> like on back to the future
[21:35:49] <crutchy> now there's a pizza oven
[21:36:17] <crutchy> zero'th_world_problems++
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[21:38:32] <crutchy> aye focker!
[21:38:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Test
[21:38:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Goddammit.
[21:38:43] <Ethanol-fueled> sup crutch./
[21:38:58] <Ethanol-fueled> uh...in unrelated news, I have to leave suddenly.
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[21:39:21] <crutchy> ~say <#> tama, when you gotta go you gotta go
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[21:40:13] <Concerned_Citizen> Hey everybody! Hope you're having a nice day!
[21:40:36] <Concerned_Citizen> I'm new to the site and like it a lot...but there's a guy who is ruining the experience.
[21:40:42] <Concerned_Citizen> https://soylentnews.org
[21:40:43] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03SN article: Grow Your Protein at Home With an Insect Desktop Hive 04(53 comments)
[21:40:57] <Concerned_Citizen> In that discussion there is a racist using racial slurs and making me feel unpleasant.
[21:41:04] <Concerned_Citizen> Just thought you should know.
[21:41:22] <crutchy> oh well come over here please Concerned_Citizen, to our speshul 'shower room'
[21:41:38] <crutchy> don't mind the chimney sticking out of the top
[21:41:54] <crutchy> its just for decoration. ahuh :D
[21:41:56] <Concerned_Citizen> I hope to lurk more so I know exactly what that means. It's like a secret club!
[21:42:10] <Concerned_Citizen> Anyway I have to go bye!
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[21:42:27] <SirFinkus> wonder who that guy was
[21:42:49] <paulej72> bbldlauyha\
[21:42:52] <crutchy> got no idea. even the username and hostmask didn't offer any clues
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[21:43:33] <SirFinkus> but pizza rolls are pretty good
[21:43:34] <paulej72> my week is done
[21:43:48] <Ethanol-fueled> erg, sorry about that...neighbors getting loud again...so early in the day.
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[21:44:01] <crutchy> come over here please Ethanol-fueled, to our speshul 'shower room'
[21:44:04] * paulej72 spent the last 3 hours setting up Windows XP
[21:44:07] <crutchy> don't mind the chimney sticking out of the top
[21:44:12] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, does it involve gay secks?
[21:44:14] <crutchy> :p
[21:44:35] <crutchy> hmm. it does get pretty hot in there ;->
[21:44:40] <SirFinkus> can you cook pizza rolls in it?
[21:44:48] <Ethanol-fueled> mmmmm, pizza rolls.
[21:45:00] <Ethanol-fueled> bbr...
[21:45:02] <Ethanol-fueled> brb...
[21:45:05] <paulej72> yes smoked pizza rolls
[21:45:07] <crutchy> paulej72 is getting back to the future already
[21:45:25] <crutchy> windows xp is the future
[21:45:31] Ethanol-fueled is now known as ethanol-fueled|NUT
[21:46:07] <paulej72> I have a old x-ray film scanner that has software that is only certified with XP. The current computer is 10+ years old and needs replaced.
[21:46:07] * SirFinkus goes back to morrowind
[21:46:40] * crutchy goes back to civ5
[21:47:50] <cmn32480> paulej72 - If you are running a Windows box (however unliekly that might be) you can also use XP-Mode
[21:47:51] ethanol-fueled|NUT is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[21:48:01] <paulej72> Dell Optiplex GX260 being replaced by an Optiplex 960 (13 year old machine replaced by a 6 year old)
[21:48:12] <paulej72> cmn32480: driver :(
[21:48:21] <Ethanol-fueled> guys, if I'm applying for a job that requires MATLAB, and I don't know MATLAB but I do know Maple, am I lying if I said I knew MATLAB?
[21:48:32] <paulej72> yes
[21:48:34] <cmn32480> hardware card?
[21:48:44] <Ethanol-fueled> all computer algebra systems are the same, right?
[21:48:44] <paulej72> no SCSI interface
[21:49:01] <Ethanol-fueled> just different syntax
[21:49:10] <cmn32480> you can set the card to passthrough to the VM and the native OS will never see it
[21:49:20] <paulej72> but I really would rather run it on bear metal thn VM
[21:49:23] <cmn32480> I do it with my SAS card for my tape drive at work
[21:49:41] <cmn32480> so you are scouting for a newish PC that will run XP?
[21:49:55] <paulej72> less shit to go wrong. I don;t have to keep two OSs on the machine running
[21:50:20] <cmn32480> fair 'nuff
[21:50:24] <paulej72> fun part is getting a fresh install of XP sp3 updated so that windows update works
[21:50:39] <cmn32480> I got a disk for that someplace....
[21:50:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, I hate writing resumes drunk.
[21:51:01] <cmn32480> well.. XP SP3 that I had slipstream a shitton of updates into
[21:51:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd rather be drinking.
[21:51:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I was just fine drinking at the beach until I got called for that damn job opportunity.
[21:51:29] <paulej72> what is amazing is that a fresh install of XP sp3 and Win 7 sp1 need about the same amount of updates to be fully patched
[21:51:41] <Ethanol-fueled> True, pauley...true.
[21:51:52] <Ethanol-fueled> so what's with the XP? legacy software?
[21:51:55] <paulej72> 171 for XPsp3
[21:51:58] <takyon> hi
[21:52:09] <paulej72> high
[21:52:28] <cmn32480> low
[21:52:35] <takyon> I think I have more than 200 beers available to drink
[21:52:55] <takyon> and it's all free
[21:52:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Noice.
[21:53:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Lucky bastid. I just have my only friend here, Gallo Cabernet Sauvignon
[21:53:24] <paulej72> 200+ beers on the wall, 200+ beers on the wall,
[21:54:20] <Ethanol-fueled> And having to write a resume with a heavy buzz...goddammit.
[21:54:29] <paulej72> one thing is nice running XP on a quad core processor with 4GB of ram is really fast
[21:55:39] <takyon> check out my journal
[21:55:45] <takyon> posting black friday stuff in it
[21:56:08] <takyon> I was looking at the $99 Chromebook but I'm not sure I want a shitty Celeron even at that price
[21:56:36] <Ethanol-fueled> takyon, I felt an overwhelming urge to troll that journal.
[21:56:38] <paulej72> noone wants a hsitty cleron
[21:56:55] <takyon> yeah but there was so much other bait today, ethanol-fueled
[21:57:00] <paulej72> and chrome os is EOL
[21:57:05] <takyon> not true
[21:57:08] <takyon> dat's rumor
[21:57:32] <takyon> were you going to post anti-consumerist whining, EF?
[21:59:34] <takyon> on the ChromeOS thing, it looks like they will try to merge it with Android... but years down the road, and considering how disposable of an OS it is (cloud storage/web app model) you can just throw Linux on it when it's time for it to die. So there is no downside to the death of ChromeOS even if it does happen.
[22:00:17] <Ethanol-fueled> no, takyon....come on, you know me better than that. I was going to encourage stampedes and mass-violence associated with Black Friday.
[22:00:38] <paulej72> I want my White Friday deals
[22:00:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Motherfuckers ditching their families thanksgiving night to wait for hours in a Wal-Mart line.
[22:01:10] <Ethanol-fueled> having knife-fights over $20 savings for a 40" TV
[22:01:12] <Ethanol-fueled> etc, etc.
[22:01:40] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, they call it "Black Friday" because of the people waiting in the lines and starting all the fights.
[22:01:48] <nick> thanks for exporting that bit of american culture to the uk in recent years
[22:01:51] <takyon> that's not even trolling
[22:02:10] <takyon> encouraging death on black friday is practically supporting sustainable living
[22:02:30] <nick> heh
[22:03:55] <paulej72> Shithead studensts at Princeton were complaining that they don't like that Wodrow Wilison is a preoment firugre in the Univerisy's history since he was a racist that broght segregation to the Federal goverment. They want hsi name stripped from buildings and other shit. At the same time the Afircan American students want their own metting place so they can self segregate. seems ver hipocritical
[22:04:08] <cmn32480> ~g'night gentlemen. Maybe see ya later
[22:04:10] * exec fanatically flings a bucket of Soylent Green at gentlemen.
[22:04:43] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[22:04:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yum.
[22:04:44] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Princeton considers dropping Woodrow Wilson name after protests - BBC News
[22:04:50] <takyon> I opened the article but didn't read it yet
[22:05:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, isn't Princeton your turf? Are they embracing insanity like all the other universities?
[22:05:11] <paulej72> yep
[22:05:21] <paulej72> for both
[22:05:25] <Ethanol-fueled> ivy league = Jew-dominated. Figures.
[22:05:43] <takyon> #WilsonPresidencyMatters
[22:06:22] * Ethanol-fueled attended Woodrow Wilson Junior High School
[22:06:38] <takyon> ahahah
[22:06:49] <Ethanol-fueled> The wilson warriors...with a native american chief as their mascot.
[22:07:00] <takyon> the school formerly known as Woodrow Wilson Junior High School
[22:07:20] <Ethanol-fueled> might as well be the Wilson Weenies.
[22:07:20] <takyon> your school will be renamed...
[22:07:32] <Ethanol-fueled> It had such a bad gang problem that they implemented uniforms...
[22:07:43] <takyon> The Mike Brown Middle School. The new mascot will be rainbows
[22:07:46] <Ethanol-fueled> a fucking 8TH GRADER was shot and killed when I attended.
[22:07:56] <Ethanol-fueled> (not on school grounds though)
[22:07:57] <paulej72> Woody was the Dean of the Grad School, then President of Princeton, then Governer of NJ then Prisident of the US. A giant department is named after him. WW School for Public Polican and Internationa Affairs
[22:08:19] <Ethanol-fueled> holy shit pauley, how are they just gonna gut all that out of Princeton?
[22:08:32] <takyon> he is definitely a big deal wrt international affairs
[22:08:37] <paulej72> Hell if I know.
[22:09:03] <takyon> let's be honest here
[22:09:10] <takyon> there was never a President Woodrow Wilson
[22:09:17] <takyon> all your memories of him are obsolete
[22:09:34] <takyon> report for scrubbing
[22:10:06] <paulej72> Their was no Natzi party in Germany either
[22:10:48] <Ethanol-fueled> correct.
[22:10:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Disappear it all down the memory hole.
[22:11:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Ban words to narrow the range of thought.
[22:11:16] <paulej72> these kids think they are entitled to everything.
[22:11:37] <Ethanol-fueled> and I thought my university was liberal...fuck....what you are experiencing is madness!
[22:11:57] <paulej72> they whine that their work load is too high and they take 1 less class per sememster than most normal college students
[22:12:36] <Ethanol-fueled> I've known immigrant students who survived 19-unit loads back when that was allowed.
[22:12:53] <Ethanol-fueled> junior college, but still.
[22:13:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, I read an article about an ivy-league student (Black of course) who blamed her slow progress on being triggered by learning about too many white civilizations or something like that.
[22:14:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm a shit student, but at least I admit it and don't blame it on "oppression" or "rape culture" or some shit.
[22:15:16] * Ethanol-fueled faps to this picture: https://pbs.twimg.com
[22:15:58] <Ethanol-fueled> furthermore, I called out the bullshit in our mandatory "white privilige class"
[22:16:56] <Ethanol-fueled> I was the only person to say, professionally and eloquently, that political correctness is not only bullshit but oppressive - and that those who utilize it are being every bit as oppressive as the forces they claim to be fightin against.
[22:17:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I have a feeling that the university, like many in the US now, is receiving a lot of Chink money.
[22:17:24] <nick> people should be free to show themselves for the idiots they are
[22:17:36] * Ethanol-fueled racist_and_proud
[22:17:38] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed.
[22:17:53] Ethanol-fueled is now known as racist_and_proud
[22:17:55] <racist_and_proud> agreed.
[22:18:12] racist_and_proud is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[22:18:47] <paulej72> I am not racist, but I hate that poeple are being racist when they claim that they are just potesting racism
[22:19:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not racist either.
[22:21:03] <takyon> one sec
[22:21:22] <paulej72> This campus seemed to me to be relitively race issue free until students jumped on the SJW bandwagon to protest precieved reacism
[22:22:03] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[22:22:04] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03SN comment by [02takyon (881)] (02Score:2)
[22:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> http://imgur.com
[22:25:21] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[22:25:29] <Ethanol-fueled> More proof that ethanol-fueled isn't a racist.
[22:25:52] <paulej72> did you do her?
[22:26:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, that's gross. That class were all underage refugees.
[22:27:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Some machine-gun toting warlord probably did in her home country, though.
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[22:29:18] <paulej72> http://www.vox.com
[22:29:19] <APK_McHOSTS> ^ 03Woodrow Wilson was extremely racist — even by the standards of his time - Vox
[22:30:07] <Ethanol-fueled> everybody was, and still is, racist.
[22:30:27] <JamesNZ> !socialist Ethanol-fueled
[22:30:32] <Ethanol-fueled> The problem is, to use an example, the problem of the gays.
[22:30:42] * JamesNZ casts around for the bots
[22:31:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Gays are gays. But when society tells them that they should be something they're not, it results in problems.
[22:32:19] <Ethanol-fueled> When society tells women that they should not crave dick, and that any man primally agressive is evil, and a rapist, and that rape is bad, then the SJW suffers cognitive disonnance instead of giving in to healthy urgers.
[22:32:26] <Ethanol-fueled> urges^
[22:33:05] <Ethanol-fueled> There were some things on TV I liked as a kid...Mr. Ed, Get Smart, Looney Tunes.
[22:33:29] <Ethanol-fueled> But then there was the crap....Reagan-era crap...that made me hate and fear TV even in single-digit age.
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[22:39:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Huh. Bushn***** guy from the protein discussion was relentlessly modded down. Kinda offensive, but had some good points.
[22:39:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Knew about food, too.
[22:40:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A New Test of General Relativity - http://sylnt.us - relatively-harmless
[22:40:21] <Ethanol-fueled> If that fella weren't such a coward I would have posted myself asking that person to create a login. But I was busy drinking at the beach from 7am to 1pm Pacific time.
[22:42:44] <takyon> he was "asking for it"
[22:42:50] <takyon> he was commenting provactively
[22:42:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, and he got it.
[22:43:08] <takyon> brutal rape was the result
[22:44:44] <Ethanol-fueled> a comment title of "Fuck You" does not endear a person to anybody else, especially when there is a discussion-troll who repeatedly references the most offensive portions of the post when making other posts.
[22:48:11] <Ethanol-fueled> But man, as much as that person was an asshole, they were right.
[22:49:04] <Ethanol-fueled> You ever go to a sushi place so fine that they bring the live creature out of the tank, carve it up for you, and let you eat it while that creature watches?
[22:50:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Or have whole fish made my a Mexican woman. The reason why I said that was because a lot of other people and places know how to make whole fish...but only a Mexican woman will broil it in butter.
[22:51:14] <Ethanol-fueled> It's easy to have a love-hate relationship with Mexican women -- they're temperamental, bipolar, with eating disorders, and insane in a very calculated manner...but that cooking! And that cleaning!
[22:53:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Should you make the mistake of tie-ing with a Mexican woman, you will gain at least 20 pounds overnight.
[22:54:33] <Ethanol-fueled> You will become a <i>pinche cerdo</i>
[22:59:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I must go good night, gentlement.
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[23:27:14] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[23:27:14] <Bender> karma - fedora: 59
[23:27:15] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[23:27:15] <Bender> karma - fedora: 60
[23:33:55] <everdred> yarmulke++
[23:33:55] <Bender> karma - yarmulke: 1
[23:42:06] <alexbst> women++
[23:42:06] <Bender> karma - women: 1