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[02:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> 'SUp.
[02:10:54] <crutchy> aye focker!
[02:15:04] <Ethanol-fueled> crutch-dawg.
[02:15:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Ready for WWIII?
[02:15:59] <crutchy> felt like ww3 yesterday
[02:16:07] <crutchy> and day before :/
[02:16:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, let me ask a more interesting question - if you were drafted for the war effort, against China and Russia, would you comply or resist?
[02:16:19] <crutchy> resist
[02:16:24] <crutchy> fuck war
[02:16:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, same here.
[02:16:43] <Ethanol-fueled> March the fucking politicians in front of tanks.
[02:16:47] <crutchy> yup
[02:17:10] <crutchy> i like what russia is doing in syria
[02:17:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, Putin has some major balls on him.
[02:17:44] <crutchy> when i read about them bombing the oil tankers on their way to turkey i thought that was awesome
[02:17:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck yeah, he's playing the long game of chess.
[02:18:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Playing the West's hypocracy against it.
[02:18:22] <crutchy> fuck knows what china is doing. they are the masters of the long game
[02:18:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Making them look like fools.
[02:18:48] <Ethanol-fueled> I think their territorial expansion in the South China Sea is about resources more than it is military might.
[02:18:56] <crutchy> yeah i think so too
[02:19:07] <crutchy> and they're buying up africa
[02:19:19] <Ethanol-fueled> They can play passive-aggressive with their domination of rare-earth metals.
[02:19:20] <cmn32480> ~weather
[02:19:21] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 38°F / 3°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 0 mph, humidity 61% - Sunday partly cloudy (35°F:46°F / 2°C:8°C), Monday cloudy (49°F:54°F / 9°C:12°C), Tuesday scattered showers (48°F:60°F / 9°C:16°C), Wednesday rain (63°F:67°F / 17°C:19°C)
[02:19:31] <Ethanol-fueled> sup cmn
[02:19:33] <crutchy> ooh that's chilly
[02:19:43] <cmn32480> could be worse
[02:19:45] <Ethanol-fueled> ~weather
[02:19:46] <exec> 10San Diego, CA, USA - currently 59°F / 15°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 51% - Sunday partly cloudy (47°F:60°F / 8°C:16°C), Monday mostly sunny (56°F:64°F / 13°C:18°C), Tuesday showers (57°F:64°F / 14°C:18°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (54°F:63°F / 12°C:17°C)
[02:19:47] <cmn32480> same old
[02:19:53] <crutchy> do you have snow?
[02:19:59] <cmn32480> my son is pulling clothes for tomorrow and asked what the weather is to be like
[02:20:02] <cmn32480> not yet
[02:20:11] <crutchy> a white christmas is something we only ever see on movies here
[02:20:31] <chromas> It's the same for us with Australians
[02:20:53] <crutchy> das racist man!
[02:20:57] <crutchy> :D
[02:21:47] <Ethanol-fueled> "white christmas" to my kin means snorting cocaine in the evening after having escaped the family obligation
[02:22:03] <crutchy> lol
[02:22:26] <crutchy> #whitechristmaslivesmatter
[02:22:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Here in San Diego we always have a large gang of idiots who shit up the highways to drive an hour into the mountains and play in the snow.
[02:22:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Ranger love 'em because they can *** them with land-access permit fees.
[02:23:22] <Ethanol-fueled> It's like Black Friday except that it gets a sizeable chunk of morons out of town.
[02:23:37] <crutchy> good for the bruthas?
[02:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> bruthas don't like snow, like they don't like water and snakes.
[02:24:15] <crutchy> i mean for them to do their xmas 'shopping' while the yuppys are out of town :p
[02:24:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, but they do all their Christmas shopping at Wal-Mart so it's a win-win for the rest of us.
[02:25:13] <crutchy> so whats going on lately to cause ww3?
[02:25:21] <crutchy> i'm prolly a bit behind the times
[02:25:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Syria, basically.
[02:25:47] <Ethanol-fueled> It will escalate.
[02:25:53] <crutchy> i heard that putin's got his missile defense going, which has basically locked out US air power
[02:26:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't believe that hype.
[02:26:25] <Ethanol-fueled> None of that technology is battle-tested.
[02:26:35] <crutchy> yeah i only read it on the bullshit news sites
[02:27:04] <crutchy> though i wouldn't doubt the missiles themselves. one thing russia is good at is making shit to kill people
[02:27:20] <crutchy> not sure about 'locking US air power out' though
[02:27:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah...and they're pretty determined weirdo killers too. Stabbing people with umbrellas loaded with ricin pellets
[02:27:35] <crutchy> lol
[02:27:41] <crutchy> havent heard that one
[02:28:00] <Ethanol-fueled> https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:28:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Georgi Markov
[02:28:23] <Ethanol-fueled> It's no fucking joke, Crutch-dawg.
[02:29:09] <crutchy> haha holy shit. those damn kgb guys eh
[02:29:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Litvenekno
[02:29:16] <crutchy> now one of them is running the country
[02:29:48] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, to be fair, he was totally cool with us until we started our needless provokation scheme across the Middle-East and otherwise.
[02:29:50] <crutchy> i definitely wouldn't be joining a war against the ruskies with a kgb guy in office
[02:30:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Russia and the USA should be bros. There's no reason why we need to squabble like this.
[02:30:10] <crutchy> true
[02:30:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus, they wrote some damn good literature.
[02:30:37] <crutchy> if trade ties were strengthened there would be less likelihood of war
[02:30:52] <crutchy> trade has been all but cut off though
[02:31:02] <crutchy> so the warmongers get airtime
[02:31:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Trumps slogan "make america great again" strongly implies that America is not great.
[02:32:08] <Ethanol-fueled> even a tacit admission like that would have been unheard of even a decade ago.
[02:32:08] <crutchy> hmm. its looked better from the outside before :/
[02:32:42] <crutchy> i like normal americans though. i realize its just your political class fucking everything up
[02:32:56] <Ethanol-fueled> I think that's true for almost every nation.
[02:33:00] <crutchy> yeah
[02:33:02] <cmn32480> EF - I think he just called us normal
[02:33:07] <cmn32480> GET HIM!
[02:33:09] <crutchy> oh shit
[02:33:23] <crutchy> american exceptionalism ftw! god bless murca!
[02:33:26] * Ethanol-fueled waterboards Crutchy
[02:33:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Off to the re-education camp with you, kangaroo-fucker!
[02:34:17] <crutchy> lol i wouldn't be surprised if my own government stooped to that eventually
[02:34:41] <crutchy> esp when i tell the military drafters to fuck off
[02:35:12] <crutchy> i'd rather rot in an aussie prison than a russian one
[02:36:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Agreed there.
[02:36:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Dostoevsky was subject to a mock-execution after being jailed for his subversive ideas.
[02:36:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Lotta interesting reading there.
[02:37:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Being lead to the gallows with a hood, having the rope tightened around your neck, hearing the crowd muttering and the executioner giving the order to drop the trapdoor,
[02:37:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Then, "Nah, just kidding bro. But don't piss us off again. Hahahah!"
[02:37:45] <crutchy> lol
[02:38:23] <crutchy> i dont think it would matter what you guys did in gitmo, most people would still prefer to be oppressed by america than russia anyday
[02:38:39] <crutchy> russians are just fkin scary fukkers
[02:38:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that's probably true.
[02:38:55] <Ethanol-fueled> All Slavs are like that. They're just cold sons of bitches.
[02:39:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Their wimmin too.
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[02:39:32] <Ethanol-fueled> They literally flirt by blowing cigarette smoke in a woman's face. That's a legit way to flirt.
[02:40:23] <Ethanol-fueled> https://upload.wikimedia.org
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[02:42:07] <chromas> Why isn't the cat in a hat?
[02:42:09] <crutchy> guess it explains why putin's so popular
[02:42:12] <crutchy> lol
[02:42:30] <crutchy> they grab their pussy by the scruff
[02:42:41] <Ethanol-fueled> We're making Putin popular because our leadership is incompetent
[02:42:56] <chromas> i Russia, dick hold pussy
[02:43:04] <chromas> n
[02:43:12] <Ethanol-fueled> haha, that pic are Serbs though, not Russkies.
[02:43:29] <chromas> whatever. all you Whities look a like to me
[02:43:45] <crutchy> i doubt there is an american equivalent of putin
[02:43:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Kinda worse in a lot of ways, I don't remember hearing anything about Russian rape camps or anything like it since they streamrolled Germany in WWII.
[02:44:04] <chromas> crutchy: what about trump?
[02:44:09] <SpallsHurgenson> today I learned that when all you have is bananas, everything looks like a monkey.
[02:44:09] <chromas> do anything to make a buck
[02:44:16] <SpallsHurgenson> noisy, dirty, poop-flinging monkeys
[02:44:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I think we all can relate.
[02:44:23] <crutchy> trump is kinda embarrassing, even for US allies
[02:44:29] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, trump has no background in security services and intelligence.
[02:44:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't think Trump is embarassing. He's a clown, sure. But he's proving a point.
[02:45:12] <crutchy> he's embarrassing insofar as he seems to be the best you got :/
[02:45:22] <chromas> sure, you just swap murder and military for buyouts and capitalism :)
[02:45:23] <SpallsHurgenson> well, things also look a lot like banana splits. but mostly monkeys.
[02:45:33] <crutchy> though i kinda still like rand paul better
[02:45:41] <crutchy> he's a bit more... erm... presidential?
[02:45:55] <Ethanol-fueled> SpallsHurgenson, I heard that German coprophiles preferred to feed their women bananas to stimulate their...you know.
[02:45:55] <crutchy> trump might make a good advisor or summin
[02:46:15] * chromas gives SpallsHurgenson 🙈🙉🙊🍌💩
[02:46:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Hitler and Goering would frequent those clubs where the women ate bannannas before every show.
[02:46:29] * SpallsHurgenson locks the door against all the monkeys...
[02:47:05] <SpallsHurgenson> ... especially the ones writing shakespeare.
[02:47:55] <Ethanol-fueled> That sounds like racist historical revisionism, Spalls.
[02:48:11] <Ethanol-fueled> What are you trying to say about ***** ****** anyway?
[02:49:20] <crutchy> hunter2?
[02:51:06] * SpallsHurgenson sits in the corner and gibbers, "Monkeys monkeys monkeys..."
[02:51:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Being a zoo monkey would be a pretty awesome life.
[02:51:41] <chromas> "it's okay; I'm taking it back!"
[02:51:51] <chromas> "My grandma used to call me a porchmonkey because I used to sit on the porch and look at the neighbors"
[02:52:05] <crutchy> #poolivesmatter
[02:52:27] <chromas> crutchy: s/m/sp/
[02:52:27] <sedctl> <chromas> <crutchy> #poolivesspatter
[02:52:46] <crutchy> do people still do dubstep xmas lights?
[02:53:07] <chromas> I've noticed a lot of projectors this year
[02:53:13] <crutchy> we dont do outside lights
[02:53:13] <SpallsHurgenson> gads, something worse than monkeys
[02:53:25] <chromas> Projecting colored dots or text silhouettes onto people's houses
[02:53:29] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, are you some kind of mooslim?
[02:53:49] <crutchy> nah. lights just arent as popular as they used to be
[02:53:56] * Ethanol-fueled considers vandalizing nativity scenes with satanic imagery
[02:53:56] <crutchy> waste of money
[02:54:34] <crutchy> people with big light shows either old pedos or people with self esteem issues or summin'
[02:54:40] <crutchy> nah just kiddin
[02:54:42] <crutchy> fiik
[02:55:08] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[02:55:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Imgur overloaded. Send kittens
[02:55:25] <crutchy> yeah i got that earlier
[02:55:38] <chromas> heh, I didn't, only the bot did
[02:55:43] <crutchy> ah
[02:55:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I did one of those with my sister as Mary and a 40 of Mickeys as baby jesus.
[02:55:45] <chromas> picture related to topic
[02:56:19] <crutchy> lol "He died nine times for our sins."
[02:57:24] <chromas> Ya know, YHWH didn't get affirmative consent before impregnating Mary
[02:57:57] <crutchy> ermagerd! femminazis unite! :D
[02:58:03] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.imgur.com
[02:58:14] <Ethanol-fueled> My sister with Baby Jesus during Christmas ^
[02:58:29] <crutchy> lol
[02:58:33] <chromas> needs moar halo
[02:58:41] <crutchy> cod > halo
[02:58:46] <chromas> is that the sparkle brush in gimp?
[02:58:46] <Ethanol-fueled> babby's first GIMP project
[02:58:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah chromas.
[02:58:58] <crutchy> cs:go > cod
[02:59:07] <crutchy> not that i ever played any of them :p
[02:59:33] <chromas> ah, the sarkeesian philosophy
[03:00:38] <Ethanol-fueled> needs more MULTICULTURALISM.
[03:00:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Transgender characters.
[03:01:03] <crutchy> apparently cs:go is full of russians
[03:05:13] <chromas> Does dickshooting the bad guys count?
[03:05:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[03:05:29] <chromas> "Oh, look, eunuchs! I know this!"
[03:11:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Just finished up babby's first Linux command-line class.
[03:11:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Shell can do fucking anything.
[03:12:03] <cmn32480> ~define asshat
[03:12:03] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03asshat: One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. Asshat
[03:12:04] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, hell yeah
[03:12:19] <crutchy> pity konomi's not here anymore. she's a shell god
[03:12:23] <crutchy> or err. goddess
[03:12:45] <chromas> ~define system32
[03:12:46] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03system32: Delete it, it will be fun
[03:13:00] <crutchy> cmn32480++
[03:13:00] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 32
[03:13:43] <cmn32480> we was right. soon as I gave exec an unfiltered DNS server, it seems to go back to kosher
[03:13:51] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a shame Konomi left because of lil' ol' me. There are things in this world far more offensice than Vaginal Jesus smash hit "Slave Runaway Rodney Beat Down"
[03:14:17] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: victim blaming, bro
[03:14:34] <chromas> Why should I have to use /ignore?
[03:15:00] <chromas> from the irc-is-hard dept
[03:17:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Gotta algorithms class coming up.
[03:17:35] <Ethanol-fueled> At least they're doing it with C++.
[03:18:16] <Ethanol-fueled> People say the majority of software job interview questions are about what you learn in that class.
[03:18:44] * chromas gives Ethanol-fueled fizzbuzz
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[03:19:05] <Ethanol-fueled> apparantly many people can't even do fizzbuzz.
[03:19:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Glassdoor is pretty cool because they have interview questions listed.
[03:19:43] <Ethanol-fueled> There was one with my former employer that was fundamental but still pretty cool -
[03:19:59] <Gravis> chromas: a kick in the head would be more helpful for him
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[03:20:31] <crutchy> yay Gravis is back :)
[03:20:31] <chromas> if they can't fizzbuzz, the interviewer should bring in 'the guys' so they can have a laugh fest
[03:20:34] <Ethanol-fueled> "you're doing embedded programming. You write a section of code that exits when a certain value in a register is read, but even though the correct value is in the register, the code doesn't exit. What's the problem?"
[03:20:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Any of you eggheads know without googling?
[03:21:18] <chromas> the register's not being read :D
[03:21:23] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i did an interview for a delphi job once. they didn't ask me any questions about delphi. it was just an idiot test
[03:21:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, but why?
[03:21:34] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, nice crutchy
[03:21:52] <crutchy> thankfully i dodn't need the job that bad
[03:21:55] <crutchy> *didnt
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[03:22:05] <Ethanol-fueled> the register's not being read because the compiler optimized it away.
[03:22:20] <crutchy> compilers can be nasty like that
[03:22:29] <Ethanol-fueled> so when you're dealing with variables which could be changed oudside the program, you declare them volatile
[03:22:31] <crutchy> delphi does it all the time
[03:22:38] <Ethanol-fueled> or whatever the keyword for that is in your language.
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[03:25:35] <Ethanol-fueled> those fucking bastards have a lot of internship positions but for only 15 bucks an hour and Master's / Ph.D preferred.
[03:28:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DDR4 Memory Prices Declined 40% in 6 Months - http://sylnt.us - less-than-$5000-for-a-terabyte-of-RAM
[03:29:10] <Ethanol-fueled> So who the hell would accept that? A 30 year old Armenian Ph.D student (beacuse in their culture it is acceptable to live with parents until married) taking 15 bucks an hour to do unit tests all day?
[03:33:53] <cmn32480> I hope somebody actually runs thisL
[03:33:56] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[03:33:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN Submission by cmn32480: Ask Soylent: What Are Your ISP Horror Stories?
[03:35:15] <Ethanol-fueled> What are they going to say though? That they once received a cease-and-decist letter from their ISP for torrenting?
[03:35:56] <Ethanol-fueled> The worst thing that happened to me was the service dropping out during finals or some shit.
[03:41:44] <cmn32480> bytram++
[03:41:44] <Bender> karma - bytram: 68
[03:42:00] <cmn32480> dunno eth. guess we will find out
[03:42:19] <cmn32480> I'm guess it'll be a lot of people grousing about shitty service.
[03:42:29] <cmn32480> stories of it taking 90 days to run a line
[03:42:37] <cmn32480> general misery sharing
[03:43:15] * SpallsHurgenson grumbles about the high price of 100mbit, phone and cable... $45 a month is obscene!
[03:49:57] <SpallsHurgenson> and don't get me started on how sometimes I only get 85mbits down...
[03:51:26] <crutchy> ~weather
[03:51:27] <exec> 12Traralgon VIC - currently 19°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 29 km/h, humidity 52% - Monday mostly cloudy (9°C:21°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (13°C:26°C), Wednesday scattered showers (13°C:27°C), Thursday sunny (16°C:33°C)
[03:51:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Americans get the short-end of the shit-stick compared to much of the world.
[03:51:34] <crutchy> 19?
[03:51:39] <crutchy> feels like 30 :/
[03:52:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Fug, we will have some rain but not until Tuesday.
[03:52:27] <crutchy> yeah... cos my 10mbps kicks your internets arse!
[03:52:32] <crutchy> lol
[03:53:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I pay the cheapest rate for shit-tier internet. 40-45 bucks a month for 600K download rate
[03:53:33] <crutchy> i think i pay about 40 or so
[03:53:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuckers are always calling me trying to sell me upgrades, I tell them to fuck off and leave a note saying that if I want more shit I'll ask for it.
[03:53:40] <crutchy> or 60 cant remember
[03:54:00] <SpallsHurgenson> they had the gall to upgrade me to free hbo too, the bastards :-/
[03:54:12] <crutchy> i get a fair bit of download for here though. not unlimited, but 250 gb is a fair bit
[03:54:23] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, fukkers!
[03:54:31] <crutchy> sue the pants off them :p
[03:54:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I've never hit the cap. THough since my provider just lost a lawsuit, now's the time.
[03:56:17] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, the 10mbit up is ridiculously low, and - probably just to confuse me - it's actually 15mb up when I measure it. Is there no end to their despicableness?
[03:57:41] <crutchy> you should definitely use that to spam their servers!
[03:57:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Er, that wasn't 600K, that was 6MBPS
[03:58:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I got like 1MBPS upload
[03:58:45] <cmn32480> I'm on 25/25, I think
[03:58:58] <cmn32480> the office is 100/20
[03:59:10] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, my upload is about 1 as well
[03:59:27] <SpallsHurgenson> their techs are polite and helpful too. I think they do that just to be insulting
[03:59:28] * cmn32480 needs to remember to give exec priority on all traffic tomorrow
[03:59:42] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, do they rub their nipples?
[03:59:43] <Ethanol-fueled> why is that, cmn?
[03:59:51] * Ethanol-fueled rubs his nipples
[04:00:05] * cmn32480 rubs Ethanol-fueled's nipples
[04:00:09] <crutchy> only the best tech support rub their nipples :D
[04:00:17] <cmn32480> why not? we wante xec to be lickety split fast
[04:00:18] <SpallsHurgenson> for an added fee, theyll rub mine :)
[04:00:22] <crutchy> s/tech/sales/
[04:00:22] <sedctl> <crutchy> only the best sales support rub their nipples :D
[04:00:45] <crutchy> cmn32480, you might create a monster!
[04:00:50] <cmn32480> 'course his response time might have somethign to do with the celeron w/ 2GB of RAM
[04:00:59] <cmn32480> the bigeinnings of skynet
[04:01:11] <crutchy> that's more than what i give it
[04:01:22] <cmn32480> it was the shitties box I hahandy
[04:01:38] <SpallsHurgenson> just make sure to teach it to play Tic Tac Toe in case it starts going all wobbly
[04:01:49] <crutchy> i'm on a vbox with 1gb of ram
[04:01:50] <cmn32480> I was considering doing a PtoV and putting him on REAL hardware
[04:02:16] <crutchy> with direct access to arpanet?
[04:02:18] <cmn32480> nah SpallsHurgenson, the only winnign move there is not to play
[04:02:48] <crutchy> as soon as exec gains access to arpa, we're all fukked
[04:02:52] <cmn32480> I got server hprsepower coming out my ass atm
[04:03:13] <SpallsHurgenson> does this "real hardware" include a ten-ton armored mobile chassis and gattling guns?
[04:03:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Sheeit, my deskie doesn't even have hardware virtualization support.
[04:03:22] * crutchy offers cmn32480 some buttplugs for his horses
[04:03:25] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a refurb Dell box
[04:03:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell++
[04:03:29] <Bender> karma - dell: -3
[04:03:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell++
[04:03:35] <Bender> karma - dell: -2
[04:03:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell++
[04:03:37] <Bender> karma - dell: -1
[04:03:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell++
[04:03:39] <Bender> karma - dell: 0
[04:03:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Dell++
[04:03:42] <Bender> karma - dell: 1
[04:03:46] <crutchy> dell++ # even though it pains me to do so :(
[04:03:46] <Bender> karma - dell: 2
[04:03:55] <crutchy> only for servers though
[04:03:55] * Ethanol-fueled doesn't understand the Dell hate
[04:03:59] <cmn32480> he could do really well w/ 8GB and a quad core CPU
[04:04:04] <crutchy> alienware--
[04:04:04] <Bender> karma - alienware: -2
[04:04:06] <cmn32480> we'd have the weather at the speed of the internets!
[04:04:12] <cmn32480> dell++
[04:04:12] <Bender> karma - dell: 3
[04:04:13] <crutchy> lol
[04:04:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Gonna have to upgrade or get another deskie soon so I can do Android development
[04:04:30] <crutchy> dell's consumer boxes are shit
[04:04:42] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I get refurbished enterprise boxes
[04:04:46] <SpallsHurgenson> HP++ #just to confuse people
[04:04:46] <Bender> karma - hp: 1
[04:05:00] <cmn32480> each of the blades in my chasis has 128GB of RAM, and a pad of 6-core (I think) CPU's
[04:05:06] <cmn32480> and there is room to spare
[04:05:14] <SpallsHurgenson> HP++ #cause they own Packard Bell!
[04:05:14] <Bender> karma - hp: 2
[04:05:27] <Ethanol-fueled> My deskie is an Optiplex GX620
[04:05:36] <cmn32480> HP++ #'cuz Carly Fiorina!
[04:05:36] <Bender> karma - hp: 3
[04:05:39] <crutchy> microsoft++ # cos ribbons!
[04:05:40] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -21
[04:05:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I stole an aftermarket Nvidia graphics card that lasted a year or two and burned out.
[04:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> so now I'm back to the onboard graphics chip.
[04:06:16] <SpallsHurgenson> HP++ #cause lightweight plastic printers are so much easier to shift than those bulky metal ones that lasted forever :)
[04:06:16] <Bender> karma - hp: 4
[04:06:30] <cmn32480> http://outlet.dell.com
[04:06:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03Object moved ( http://www.dell.com )
[04:06:41] <crutchy> i pilfered a dell workstation for a hypervisor at work. the graphics is awesome but wasted cos it mostly runs headless vboxen
[04:06:54] * SirFinkus buys everyone a round of drinks
[04:06:58] <SirFinkus> THE CUNT IS OUT OF MY LIFE
[04:07:02] <cmn32480> you can get new gear, at pretty decent proces, but you gott awatch what you get
[04:07:21] <cmn32480> divorce get finalized?
[04:07:40] <chromas> SirFinkus: did she leave or keel over?
[04:07:44] <SirFinkus> no, grandma is moving
[04:07:49] <crutchy> no he put his rubbish out for collection :p
[04:07:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, good.
[04:07:56] <SirFinkus> the former unfortunately
[04:08:15] <Ethanol-fueled> If she moves then there's little or no obligation to visit them.
[04:08:33] * crutchy has been roped into family shit on boxing day
[04:08:51] <cmn32480> Ethanol-fueled - Al so look at places like US Micro. They do refurb gear at decent prices. I got a couple i5 laptops w/ 8gb for <$300
[04:08:55] * crutchy was already roped into family shit on xmas day (with in-laws)
[04:09:07] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn, thanks. I'll check it out.
[04:09:34] <crutchy> apparently dell do better deals if you talk to them direct
[04:09:44] <crutchy> so the nerds at work say anyway
[04:09:50] <Ethanol-fueled> I did my last one through newegg and it arrived dented as fuck and likely with Chinest-installed backdoors.
[04:09:51] <cmn32480> http://www.usmicrocorpretail.com
[04:09:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03US Micro - Computers, Laptops, Servers and more from Dell, Cisco, HP and other brands.
[04:10:07] <Ethanol-fueled> My next box is gonna be a Dell though. I know that.
[04:10:18] <crutchy> my box is in bed atm
[04:10:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I still have a 2003-era Dell laptop running strong, can run Compiz-fusion and all that shit.
[04:10:33] <cmn32480> dell gives better pricing if you buy enough to have an actual account rep
[04:10:52] <crutchy> compiz-confusion
[04:10:59] <cmn32480> crutchy - mine is downstaris
[04:11:05] * SirFinkus slinks back to monitor fantastic internet drama
[04:11:07] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn, I'm not a large corporation. I don't get the luxury of native english speakers for MY Dell tech support ;)
[04:11:17] <cmn32480> adn my typing is far more rubbishy than usual tonight
[04:11:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Congrats, Fink.
[04:11:29] <crutchy> the office here is full of alienware boxes :<
[04:11:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Alienware?! Bahahahah!
[04:11:45] <Ethanol-fueled> *Retch* Hipster shit.
[04:11:52] <crutchy> the IT guy got a hardon for it i think
[04:11:57] <cmn32480> we are all on latitudes
[04:11:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Word on the street is that they're not even good.
[04:12:06] <SirFinkus> wouldn't call it hipster, it's worse
[04:12:11] <SirFinkus> caters to "gamers"
[04:12:13] <crutchy> thankfully i scored the dimensions before that crap came in
[04:12:22] <SirFinkus> owned by dell I believe
[04:12:26] <cmn32480> they are
[04:12:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Retch.
[04:12:50] <crutchy> that's why i only upkarma'd dell for their servers :p
[04:13:08] <crutchy> alienware can diaf
[04:13:10] <cmn32480> since I get to do the buying, we are all on Latitude laptops and OptiPlex Desktops/Towers
[04:13:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I used to build my own systems, with mixed results.
[04:13:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Now I buy refurbished Dells. Cheap and much more reliable. I've never been burned by Dells.
[04:13:54] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i'm still using a home-built dual-core amd system at home for a desktop. works awesome :)
[04:14:03] <cmn32480> gents, it is time for me to get some rest
[04:14:10] <Ethanol-fueled> later cmn
[04:14:12] <cmn32480> ~gnight gentlemen!
[04:14:13] <crutchy> ~g'night cmn32480
[04:14:14] * exec cohesively slides a used franger of coffee++ to gentlemen!
[04:14:17] * exec clumsily throws a cold can of pancakes at cmn32480
[04:14:38] * crutchy runs off with the pancakes
[04:14:44] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|away
[04:14:51] <Ethanol-fueled> mmmm, lancakes.
[04:14:56] <Ethanol-fueled> pancakes even.
[04:15:02] <cmn32480|away> crutchy - you bastard! I'm hungry!
[04:15:13] <Ethanol-fueled> coated with unsalted butter and Maple tree blood.
[04:15:13] <crutchy> hehe
[04:15:20] <cmn32480|away> night
[04:15:34] <crutchy> night mate o/
[04:15:45] <Ethanol-fueled> stacked three high with a side of bacon, maybe some toast, and some coffee and orange juice.
[04:15:59] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i watched a doco on maple syrup production. fkin awesome
[04:16:04] <Ethanol-fueled> you sausage fags can bite it. Bacon for life!
[04:16:18] <crutchy> bacon++
[04:16:18] <Bender> karma - bacon: 303
[04:16:23] <crutchy> coffee++
[04:16:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1993
[04:16:30] <crutchy> ooh '93 eh
[04:16:34] <chromas> maple bacon coffee?
[04:16:36] <Ethanol-fueled> bacon++
[04:16:36] <Bender> karma - bacon: 304
[04:16:39] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[04:16:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1994
[04:16:57] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: hi
[04:17:04] <crutchy> '94 was the year i started high school
[04:17:23] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup subsentient
[04:17:35] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, so we're the same age.
[04:17:55] * Subsentient was old when your universe was young
[04:18:15] <crutchy> i was born in march '82
[04:18:24] <crutchy> i dont even know how old that makes me
[04:18:28] * Ethanol-fueled is older than critchy
[04:18:35] <crutchy> thirty something i guess
[04:18:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Thirty is the new twenty
[04:18:58] <Subsentient> I lost count at around 37 vigincentillion years.
[04:19:38] <crutchy> Subsentient, s/ig/ag/
[04:19:38] <sedctl> <crutchy> <Subsentient> I lost count at around 37 vagincentillion years.
[04:19:53] <crutchy> someone had to :p
[04:20:06] <Subsentient> lol
[04:21:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Would have been nice to have been born earlier, to better appreciate G.I. Joes, and to have that good coke in high school.
[04:21:46] <Ethanol-fueled> *snerk*
[04:22:09] <Ethanol-fueled> '80's toys were the fucking best. Transformers, G.I. Joes, Centurions,
[04:22:17] <Ethanol-fueled> RAMBO was a cartoon series
[04:22:19] <crutchy> !woop
[04:22:19] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[04:23:08] <Ethanol-fueled> and Enterprise chief-engineer Geordi La Forge was the host of an educational show
[04:23:09] <Ethanol-fueled> https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:23:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Reading Rainbow
[04:23:56] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, i grew up on voltron
[04:24:00] <crutchy> and lego
[04:24:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, we had that too.
[04:24:26] <crutchy> kids nowadays don't even know what lego is about anymore
[04:24:28] <Ethanol-fueled> legos were the primary driver of my intellectual development. Those and Calvin and Hobbes books.
[04:24:43] <crutchy> they just make the picture on the box and then want the next thing :/
[04:24:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. Pretty sad.
[04:25:13] <Ethanol-fueled> My friends and I, back then, would make huge lego projects and have cleanup parties.
[04:25:45] <crutchy> i was obsessed with lego as a kid. i never had anything fancy either
[04:25:58] <crutchy> but i used to win some lego comps in the local show
[04:26:08] <crutchy> good_ol_days++
[04:26:08] <Bender> karma - good_ol_days: 1
[04:26:08] <Ethanol-fueled> legos were expensive for what they were.
[04:26:21] <crutchy> i only had the basic stuff
[04:26:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I had a lot of friends who were into legos, and NES
[04:26:51] <crutchy> eventually i got to mix in some technic lego when i was old enough not to eat it
[04:26:57] <Ethanol-fueled> We LARPED before LARPing was even a thing
[04:27:08] <Ethanol-fueled> technics are cool.
[04:27:10] <crutchy> ~define LARP
[04:27:11] <exec> LARP: unable to find definition
[04:27:18] <Ethanol-fueled> live action role playing
[04:27:23] <crutchy> ah
[04:27:37] <chromas> but it sounds like something you'd do with a stick of butter
[04:27:48] <Ethanol-fueled> we would be characters from video games and play DND-style acting-outs of our favorite games.
[04:28:01] <crutchy> i used to play with matchbox cars outside, making tracks in the dirt too. kids dont seem to do that anymore either :(
[04:28:25] <Ethanol-fueled> oh yeah. We all had bikes, we jumped bikes, did WWF-style wresting on our front yards
[04:28:37] <chromas> Those are all terrible toys
[04:28:47] <chromas> You have fun with them but then grow up to raise kids that don't play with them :)
[04:28:51] <crutchy> now parenting is about protecting kids from the ebils of society
[04:28:59] <Ethanol-fueled> anytime we were playing outside, all the neighborhood kids would congregate and we would all shoot the shit.
[04:29:29] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, and that is a damn shame.
[04:29:45] <crutchy> and if you don't protect your kids from the ebils of society, you get accused of neglect and threatened with intervention
[04:29:58] <crutchy> (hasn't happened to me fortunately)
[04:31:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I am not a parent, but would not raise a kid in an environment where that kid could not be a kid.
[04:31:54] <crutchy> i think a lot of parents want to
[04:31:56] <Ethanol-fueled> I was of single-digit age and riding my bike miles across town.
[04:32:00] <crutchy> but its hard now
[04:32:15] <crutchy> laws and feminazis are everywhere
[04:32:22] <Ethanol-fueled> That is deliberate.
[04:32:30] <Ethanol-fueled> But nobody challenges that.
[04:32:55] <crutchy> when my daughter was born, i was shitscared of being in public with her alone out of fear of being accused of kidnapping or some shit
[04:33:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeesh.
[04:33:33] <crutchy> doesn't matter if you're innocent. you get a label like that and it never goes away
[04:34:04] <Ethanol-fueled> that's by design. Nowadays people are taught that there is always an enemy.
[04:34:22] <Ethanol-fueled> And encouraged to see even their harmless peers as enemies.
[04:34:26] <crutchy> not so bad now that she can talk
[04:34:41] <crutchy> though other women would prolly ignore her anyway :/
[04:35:16] <crutchy> i'm prolly just paranoid
[04:35:59] * Deucalion cowers in a corner for a while
[04:36:13] <crutchy> ~g'day juggs
[04:36:14] * exec brazenly poops a spoon of toilet water for juggs
[04:36:21] <crutchy> ew
[04:36:41] <Deucalion> ~g'day crutchy
[04:36:42] * exec unjustifiably blows a toilet bowl of bewb at crutchy
[04:36:57] <Ethanol-fueled> My family looks upon my sister and I nervously as if we are the only two who will continue the family bloodline.
[04:37:26] <Ethanol-fueled> My sister, Berkeley and CMU-eduated, believes that adoption is the only answer.
[04:37:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll gladly knock up a bitch and continue the family bloodline, but show me the money first! Hhahahaha, fuckers!
[04:38:06] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup juggs./
[04:38:10] <Ethanol-fueled> er, Deucalion.
[04:38:30] <crutchy> er yeah sorry mate
[04:38:36] <crutchy> old habits die hard
[04:38:44] <Ethanol-fueled> !grab crutchy
[04:38:44] <Bender> Added quote 633
[04:38:46] <Deucalion> Well logically, it makes sense that you can only extend your bloodline by breeding - and that is the reason to even live.
[04:39:29] <Deucalion> It is fraught with danger though
[04:39:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Deucalion, liberalism has instilled in my brilliant but misguided sister that there are already too many people in the world and that only the existing children should be taken care of.
[04:39:50] <crutchy> yeah. kids want stuff
[04:39:53] <crutchy> lol
[04:40:17] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, there is a TED talks that debunks the overpopulation myth
[04:40:25] <Ethanol-fueled> My attitude? Adopted kids are damaged goods, and suboptimal for the continuation of family genetics.
[04:40:34] <chromas> Another option is to peel off all the warning labels from things
[04:40:35] <crutchy> apparently population will peak at about 11 billion
[04:40:40] -!- SpallsHurgenson has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
[04:40:40] <crutchy> i guess that's still a lot
[04:40:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Not to mention they don't actually pass on genetics.
[04:41:01] <crutchy> chromas, including public toilets?
[04:41:04] <Ethanol-fueled> So it's all up to me.
[04:41:09] <chromas> crutchy: yes
[04:41:14] <chromas> also, peanutbutter bomb the world
[04:41:44] <crutchy> using rotten burrito missiles
[04:41:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Hehehehe
[04:42:00] <Ethanol-fueled> burritos_in_anything++
[04:42:00] <Bender> karma - burritos_in_anything: 1
[04:42:22] <Deucalion> EF - of course they are sub-optimal for continuation, you share no genes. I see no problem with a mix of adoption and self propagation though. Adopt one, breed one, bring them up as siblings and treat them fairly. Seems sane.
[04:42:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Hmm, that is an interesting idea.
[04:43:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I hear from a Catholic friend that you can get some fat stipends from adpoting too.
[04:43:46] <chromas> 200 wingwangs!
[04:43:53] <Deucalion> EF - would you be averse to a long term relationship with a woman that already had a kid?
[04:44:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd wait until the kid was at least 16 and probably 18.
[04:44:31] <chromas> that way you can have a relationship with the kid
[04:44:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahah chromas, no.
[04:45:13] <Ethanol-fueled> That way the kid knows why things are the way they are.
[04:46:08] <Ethanol-fueled> I have a lot of friends who had kids early.
[04:46:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I have a lot of friends who had kids later.
[04:46:24] <Deucalion> Yeh - AFAIUI there are financial and legal concerns that would put off anyone taking that position in the US. Heh - you lived with this woman for N years - carry the financial burden of the runaway dad of the previous sprog. Sounds like a minefield to me.
[04:47:25] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not fit for any commitment.
[04:47:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm racist and have learned too many of those lessons from seeing what happened to my friends.
[04:47:53] <Deucalion> Truth
[04:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I had a long discussion about this last night, with a Ph.D psychologist.
[04:48:54] <Deucalion> Ye gads - probably made things worse
[04:49:27] <Ethanol-fueled> There's being a dick and there's honesty. Honesty as opposed to being a dick makes things slightly less worse.
[04:50:01] <crutchy> chromas++
[04:50:01] <Bender> karma - chromas: 143
[04:50:21] <crutchy> i met my wife when our son was 9 months old
[04:50:38] <crutchy> i don't mind paying for everything he needs
[04:50:52] <crutchy> he's my boy
[04:51:02] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: yeah but you're only, waht, 98% racist?
[04:51:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Every kid should have a 2-parent household.
[04:51:11] <crutchy> well, except for drugs. he can buy them himself
[04:51:15] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, sounds about right.
[04:51:33] * chromas searches backlog; fails to find ef's percentages
[04:51:38] <Deucalion> Well there is a difference between speaking what you truly believe and deliberately being a dick. You can re-adjust your beliefs, but if you get off on being a dick deliberately despite your experience.... that's just malice.
[04:51:53] <Ethanol-fueled> One of my best friends had a father who wa sent to prison. His stepdad taught him how to fix cars.
[04:51:57] <crutchy> dammit. Deucalion has busted me
[04:52:09] * crutchy pretends not to be a troll for once
[04:52:29] <crutchy> aaaaaand fails
[04:52:35] <crutchy> can't help myself
[04:52:45] <crutchy> to troll or not to troll..... troll :D
[04:53:10] <Deucalion> You have to be world's gentlest troll crutchy.
[04:53:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh. I've seen plenty of sub-optimal family situations, including those of my own family, since I popped out the vagina.
[04:53:55] <crutchy> Deucalion, yeah i kinda suck at trolling
[04:53:55] <chromas> maybe we should get SirFinkus' grandma an internet connection >:D
[04:53:56] <Deucalion> EF has a vagina? Where did it pop out?
[04:54:15] <crutchy> though i think i troll a little better in ##programming on freenode
[04:54:26] * crutchy is surprised they haven't banned me there
[04:54:27] * Ethanol-fueled rapes SirFinkus' Grandma's catheter
[04:54:30] <crutchy> or in ##php
[04:55:35] <Deucalion> Why troll? It's just wasted energy.
[04:55:36] <chromas> maybe if coagen was there
[04:55:48] <Ethanol-fueled> trolling is never wasted energy.
[04:56:00] <Deucalion> Oh wait - for the lulz ~trollface~
[04:56:11] <Ethanol-fueled> trolling is a connection, a hustle.
[04:56:12] <crutchy> Deucalion, it can be very entertaining :)
[04:56:26] <Deucalion> Personally perhaps.
[04:56:33] <crutchy> better to troll in topics you know enough to make the other guy look like an idiot, ofc
[04:56:35] <Ethanol-fueled> trolling part of the human condition.
[04:56:54] <crutchy> but you start off acting like a dumarse
[04:57:07] <crutchy> let them feed their ego a bit :P
[04:57:39] <chromas> you know who was a good troll: MLK Jr
[04:57:58] <crutchy> APK
[04:58:03] * crutchy hides
[04:58:18] <Deucalion> So it is all about feeding your own ego by demonstrating your superlative knowledge having kited your mark into the position you wanted?
[04:58:19] <Ethanol-fueled> MichaelDavidCrawford
[04:58:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Ethanol-fueled
[04:59:03] <crutchy> the problem is we don't really have much trolling here
[04:59:14] <crutchy> everyone gets along too well
[04:59:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't think so.
[04:59:33] <crutchy> !rage-engage
[04:59:39] <Ethanol-fueled> We have runaway1956
[04:59:40] <Deucalion> You call that a problem - I say fuck you and your problems... take them elsewhere.
[04:59:46] <crutchy> lol
[04:59:46] <Ethanol-fueled> ME
[05:00:06] <Ethanol-fueled> The occasional anonymous coward.
[05:00:09] <crutchy> i had a good discussion with Gravis and SirFinkus yesterday
[05:00:14] <crutchy> i like those kinda discussions
[05:00:42] <crutchy> didn't erupt into a slag fest, but was still pretty lively
[05:01:36] <chromas> #slaglivesmatter
[05:01:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I can start a slag-fest if one is needed.
[05:02:09] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: how's it hangin?
[05:02:19] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, drunk.
[05:02:28] <Ethanol-fueled> You?
[05:02:31] <swiss> on a sunday night? You make all the choices i wish i could make
[05:02:55] <swiss> I'm doin good. I cleaned out most of the house this weekend... only have one or two more shelves to go through
[05:03:02] <Deucalion> I like frank discussions with genuine people, I have no time for mutual blowfests or inflated non-nonsensical ego parrying. No time for that, let's just get shit done.
[05:03:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, my employer did have a holiday shutdown for the first time in their history this year.
[05:03:07] <swiss> then all my shit will be in the place it should be
[05:03:17] <Ethanol-fueled> So I guess I should feel lucky.
[05:03:18] <swiss> ah, even better
[05:03:25] <swiss> Deucalion: blowfests feel good yo
[05:03:42] <swiss> if there's no shit that needs to get done, i'm all game for blowfests
[05:04:00] * Deucalion avoids swiss
[05:04:06] <swiss> hue
[05:04:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Bullshit is the enemy of good discourse.
[05:05:13] <Ethanol-fueled> As a method of translation between low-context and high-context cultures, sure.
[05:05:28] <Ethanol-fueled> But between ******, bring it on.
[05:07:32] * Deucalion notes the pure wisdom emanating hereabouts and thinks bed would be the better option. Low and High context cultures? Really? Perhaps Contrast... but even then... I have no idea what that is about.
[05:07:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Bed is a good option.
[05:08:01] <swiss> i have no idea what he meant by that, but good on him for understanding it!
[05:08:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Low and high context is essentially German vs. Chinese business culture.
[05:08:30] <crutchy> ooh that's a tough one
[05:08:49] <crutchy> though germans are at a disadvantage
[05:09:11] <Ethanol-fueled> not really. "context" in that context is essentially a measure of "wiggle room"
[05:09:30] <crutchy> the EU has pretty much choked german manufacturing out of wiggle room
[05:10:10] <crutchy> now they're just part of the keynesian subsidy mechanism
[05:10:53] <Ethanol-fueled> They're all about "multiculturalism"
[05:10:55] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHA
[05:11:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Their own government can kill them and they still won't do a goddamn thing about it.
[05:11:51] <Ethanol-fueled> "learned helplessness"
[05:12:12] <Ethanol-fueled> https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:12:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Learned helplessness
[05:13:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Good night, Europe. It was nice knowing you.
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[05:29:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Shows How Children Can Enjoy and Succeed in Math - http://sylnt.us - 2+2=4
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[07:55:44] <chromas> is he related to Kevin Trudeau?
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[08:23:53] <crutchy> kids++ # the best remote controls
[08:23:53] <Bender> karma - kids: 3
[08:32:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Darwin's Puddle" Shows How New Species Can Emerge Without Geographic Separation - http://sylnt.us - who-wins-the-award
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[08:55:55] <sea> Aloha soylenteers!
[08:55:59] <sea> I bring grapes!
[08:56:03] * sea passes grapes around
[09:08:12] <crutchy> ~g'day sea
[09:08:13] * exec fanatically poops a cheap plastic cup of $insert_beverage_here for sea
[09:08:19] <crutchy> long time no... sea :D
[09:08:36] <crutchy> #smake crutchy
[09:08:36] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head
[09:30:35] <chromas> I sea what you did there
[09:31:27] <crutchy> i juggs couldn't help muself
[09:31:51] <crutchy> #smake crutchy
[09:31:51] * MrPlow smakes crutchy upside the head
[09:32:03] <chromas> MrPlow needs more strings
[09:32:39] * NetCraft gives chromas five across the eyes
[09:33:09] * NetCraft infringes trademark
[09:34:26] <crutchy> lol
[10:17:12] <chromas> Here's a classic: https://www.youtube.com
[10:17:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bryan Fischer Compares Gay Marriage Ruling To 9/11, Slavery, Pearl Harbor, Sodom And Gomorrah - YouTube
[10:17:19] <chromas> ~rainbow jihadists
[10:17:19] <exec> 00,08j00,09i00,12h00,02a00,06d00,04i00,07s00,08t00,09s
[10:19:22] <crutchy> two big netsplits on freenode
[10:19:43] <crutchy> SN needs netsplits. otherwise how can we call ourselves a legitimate network :p
[10:21:30] <chromas> we just need Army-style ads
[10:21:34] <chromas> "A network of one"
[10:33:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Salt-Impregnated Asphalt De-Ices Itself - http://sylnt.us - winter-is-coming
[10:34:07] <crutchy> from the who-impregnated-what-now? dept.
[10:45:04] crutchy is now known as z
[10:51:36] <alexbst> http://lefsetz.com
[10:51:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lefsetz Letter » Blog Archive Entertainment Unicorns - Lefsetz Letter
[11:04:44] z is now known as crutchy
[11:14:25] <nick> day
[11:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:18:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1995
[11:19:44] <nick> vices++
[11:19:44] <Bender> karma - vices: 1
[11:21:51] <crutchy> no_workipoos++
[11:21:51] <Bender> karma - no_workipoos: 1
[11:22:20] <nick> off for the week, crutchy ?
[11:22:32] <crutchy> til 4th jan :D
[11:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[11:22:49] <nick> nice
[11:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, think i'll make Bender stop putting the dept on twitter
[11:24:27] <nick> i only discovered sunday evening it was the obligatory seasonal day for december on friday
[11:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit behind the times this year?
[11:26:25] <nick> never really keep up with the times, i just assumed it would be another full bullshit week on this renovation project
[11:26:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy surprise then
[11:26:50] <nick> yup
[11:27:07] <nick> i was quite happy to learn i wont have to go in friday
[11:27:15] <nick> now just have to work on trimming the rest of the week
[11:27:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> we did christmas early for scheduling reasons this year so i done got my loot
[11:28:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> cold weather fishing clothes. i'm calling it a good haul.
[11:28:39] <nick> nice, useful things
[11:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp. poor kids mostly got toys.
[11:29:13] <nick> i generally buy consumables for gifts
[11:29:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> stuff that gets used = good
[11:29:44] <nick> fancy booze, food, if not then it's books probably
[11:30:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[11:30:28] <MrPlow> Today: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 64F. Winds S at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 70%. Tomorrow: A mix of clouds and sun in the morning followed by cloudy skies during the afternoon. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 68F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph.
[11:30:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh
[11:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[11:30:39] <MrPlow> Today: Abundant sunshine. High 57F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. Tomorrow: Sun and a few passing clouds. High 67F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph.
[11:30:42] <nick> i have already been gifted a couple books, so i'm pretty content with that
[11:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm mostly on ebooks nowadays cept for coding books. easier to store.
[11:32:37] <nick> can't do the ebook thing, except for technical reference
[11:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, i been doing it off and on since the bbs days
[11:33:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> when ebooks was called text files
[11:33:59] <nick> books are about the only thing i buy that isn't immediately useful
[11:34:58] <nick> power and hand tools are always more enticing than anything else, but books are usually cheaper to acquire
[11:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> look into uncle john's bathroom readers. they're nearly immediately useful. same day anyway.
[11:35:02] <nick> as i buy mostly used books
[11:35:56] <chromas> used bathroom readers
[11:36:16] <nick> thanks for that...
[11:36:54] <nick> most i get are ex-library books, many have never been read it appears
[11:37:20] <nick> and they go on that way as they join the backlog of a hundred or so others
[11:38:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... think i may go fishing today. otherwise ima be wicked bored.
[11:40:05] <nick> sounds like a good deal
[11:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> stuck on the laptop as usual so coding anything serious is out.
[11:40:20] <nick> better than my plan of staring at my phone but also hoping it doesn't ring
[11:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that sounds a bit raw deal-ish
[11:43:31] <nick> could take a nap, but even more blah when the phone does ring then
[11:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's plenty of water in france, ain't there? you could go fishing as well.
[11:44:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> or is the phone a land line?
[11:45:42] <nick> not in france, but 'tis only a train ride away.
[11:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[11:46:13] <nick> phone is mobile, but logistics are more of an issue
[11:46:41] <nick> if the phone rings i'd have to go somewhere, and anywhere nice to go is further away from where i'd be called to
[11:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> this sounds like a problem that would be theirs rather than yours though
[11:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's right, was it juggs or janrinok who was in frenchieville? i never can remember.
[11:48:40] <nick> this is true to a point i guess, my own fault comes from trying to keep too many people happy
[11:48:56] <nick> janrinok is the one over there
[11:49:14] <nick> i'm the idiot who lives in london
[11:49:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'right. all you brits look alike to me.
[11:50:16] <nick> it's all close enough really, i travel a bit anyway
[11:50:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> they won't be any happier for you arriving 15m earlier really. they're still going to be crabby that something broke this close to the holidays.
[11:52:26] <nick> it's more new contracts i want to get moving before the holidays, but i can see if they have caught others by surprise too and stuff said last weeks falls apart this week
[11:52:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, times like this are what vidya games was made for. kill time enjoyably but with a handy pause button so you can drop them immediately.
[11:53:38] <nick> steam's streaming works quite well on linux actually
[11:54:18] <nick> tried it the other day, was quite impressed streaming arma2 over wifi to a linux laptop
[11:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't tried it yet. the gaming is slightly worse than winders as a general rule but technically playable,
[11:59:04] <nick> arma2 is only technically playable anyway, so it doesn't feel much different
[12:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no sunlight till about 7:30 here so i got time to kill drinking coffee and picking up some new crappie jigs
[12:04:42] <crutchy> ~define crappie jigs
[12:04:43] <exec> crappie jigs: unable to find definition
[12:04:47] <crutchy> :/
[12:04:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Unveils Fourth Generation 737, Turns Two Production Lines into Three - http://sylnt.us - up-up-and-away!
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[12:05:13] cmn32480\ is now known as cmn32480
[12:05:23] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480 o/
[12:05:24] * exec insatiably slides a bathtub of bewb to cmn32480
[12:05:34] <cmn32480> BEWB!!!!!!
[12:05:40] <crutchy> you lucky bastard
[12:05:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[12:05:43] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 53
[12:05:49] <cmn32480> bewbs++
[12:05:50] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 54
[12:05:52] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:05:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1996
[12:06:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, gotta keep em an even number or it's just weird
[12:06:25] <cmn32480> a third back bewb.... for grabbing when you hug
[12:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's what asses is for
[12:07:28] <cmn32480> fair 'nuff
[12:09:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, think ima breakfast then head out fishing tackle shopping. yall make sure not to drink bad eggnog.
[12:10:05] <crutchy> ~say <#> tama, TheMightyBuzzard is playing with his tackle
[12:29:28] <cmn32480> !grab crutchy
[12:29:29] <Bender> Added quote 634
[12:43:52] <chromas> ~wisdom-from-tama
[12:47:46] <cmn32480> I don't think that is an actual command
[12:51:39] <chromas> ~count channel=#$ message=tama:.*[is|are|\<.*\>]
[12:51:41] <exec> 036204
[12:53:01] <crutchy> .macro ~wisdom-from-tama * internal ~last channel=#$ limit=1 nick=tama out=message
[12:53:02] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger "~wisdom-from-tama" and INTERNAL command template "~last channel=#$ limit=1 nick=tama out=message" saved
[12:56:40] <chromas> #yt al yankovic hardware store
[12:56:47] <chromas> #youtube al yankovic hardware store
[12:56:47] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
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[13:30:00] <crutchy> boom
[13:33:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> #youtube Vytautus Mineral Water
[13:33:24] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:33:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> There are two ways of living:
[13:33:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> Giving a fuck
[13:33:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> Not giving a fuck
[13:33:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> Drink Vytautus, give a NEGATIVE FUCK
[13:34:13] <crutchy> or alternatively, there:
[13:34:21] <crutchy> *there's:
[13:34:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> <voice="Stephen Hawking>Giving a negative fuck may destroy the universe as we know it</voice>
[13:34:47] <crutchy> being optimistic, and getting disappointed when shit fucks up
[13:35:07] <crutchy> being a pessimist, and being pleasantly surprised when shit occasionally goes right
[13:35:21] <chromas> be optometristic
[13:35:24] <crutchy> lol
[13:36:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Parrots Observed Using Tools to Harvest Calcium - http://sylnt.us - not-just-for-monkeys-anymore
[13:36:50] <chromas> Tools are for the birds
[13:48:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> !uid
[13:48:44] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5999, owned by cybiko123
[13:49:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> *so* freaking close!
[13:50:52] <CoolHand> if only gewg would register... :)
[14:50:28] <paulej72> hola folks
[14:50:44] <paulej72> anything broken that needs my attention
[15:05:09] <cmn32480> my IIS server at the office...
[15:07:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Clickbait Works - http://sylnt.us - ooooo-lemme-see
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[16:21:00] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[16:21:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lindsey Graham Ends Presidential Bid : NPR
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[19:38:49] <cmn32480> ~weather
[19:38:50] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 54°F / 12°C, cloudy, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 49% - Monday cloudy (49°F:52°F / 9°C:11°C), Tuesday rain (51°F:61°F / 11°C:16°C), Wednesday rain (63°F:65°F / 17°C:18°C), Thursday thunderstorm (55°F:73°F / 13°C:23°C)
[19:48:41] <sea> Heh, I'm glad there's a post asking about ISP horror stories, now I can finally tell mine. I'll write it up in a bit, once I get breakfast
[19:50:04] <CoolHand> !uid
[19:50:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6000, owned by alliance1986
[19:50:18] <CoolHand> w00t! someone throw alliance1986 a party! :)
[19:55:45] <cmn32480> Go for it
[19:56:04] <cmn32480> it is absolutely a vent your frustration type post sea
[19:56:22] <cmn32480> ~woot
[19:56:30] <cmn32480> woot
[19:56:33] <cmn32480> !woot
[19:56:48] <cmn32480> it's one of these f'n bots
[19:56:56] <cmn32480> #woot
[19:57:06] <cmn32480> ~moo
[19:57:06] <exec> (__)
[19:57:07] <exec> (oo)
[19:57:07] <exec> /------\/
[19:57:07] <exec> / | ||
[19:57:08] <exec> * /\---/\
[19:57:08] <exec> ~~ ~~
[19:57:09] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[19:59:45] <swiss> ~moot
[19:59:54] <swiss> ~moo
[19:59:55] <exec> (__)
[19:59:55] <exec> (oo)
[19:59:55] <exec> /------\/
[19:59:55] <exec> / | ||
[19:59:57] <exec> * /\---/\
[19:59:58] <exec> ~~ ~~
[19:59:58] <exec> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
[20:00:05] <swiss> oh, doesn't do other cowsay things?
[20:00:06] <swiss> lame
[20:05:41] <cmn32480> ~gday swiss!
[20:05:42] * exec prematurely drops a coffee++ mug of skittles on swiss!
[20:06:43] <swiss> ha ha ha
[20:06:49] <swiss> i do own a coffee++ mug
[20:06:55] <swiss> i hope it wasn't mine!
[20:06:55] <cmn32480> me too
[20:07:14] <cmn32480> ~gday swiss!
[20:07:16] * exec fanatically slides a socket of splodge to swiss!
[20:07:21] <cmn32480> ther we go
[20:07:37] <swiss> gross
[20:07:48] <cmn32480> exec has a rather robust sense of humor
[20:08:57] <cmn32480> there are onbly 3 or four bots like him!
[20:11:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LifeLock Agrees to $100 Million Penalty - http://sylnt.us - that'll-hurt-the-bottom-line
[20:11:14] <chromas> ~cowsay mu
[20:11:49] <chromas> poor cows, locked up down in the basement
[20:15:27] <cmn32480> methinks cowsay no worky
[20:16:20] <chromas> ~deb cowsay
[20:16:21] <exec> configurable talking cow
[20:17:23] * chromas installs all the extras, like "sodomized cow" and "sodomized sheep"
[20:28:36] <cmn32480> taht'd be a packagae I need?
[20:29:31] <cmn32480> ~cowsay
[20:29:38] <cmn32480> ~cowsay mooo
[20:29:39] <exec> ______
[20:29:39] <exec> < mooo >
[20:29:40] <exec> ------
[20:29:40] <exec> \ ^__^
[20:29:40] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[20:29:41] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[20:29:42] <exec> ||----w |
[20:29:43] <exec> || ||
[20:29:52] <cmn32480> ~cowsay eat shit chromas
[20:29:54] <exec> __________________
[20:29:54] <exec> < eat shit chromas >
[20:29:55] <exec> ------------------
[20:29:56] <exec> \ ^__^
[20:29:58] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[20:29:58] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[20:29:59] <exec> ||----w |
[20:30:00] <exec> || ||
[20:30:24] <cmn32480> ~deb sodomized cow
[20:30:39] * cmn32480 calls shenanigans!
[20:30:59] <chromas> lol. it's probably installed already, or would be in an -extras package or something
[20:31:27] <cmn32480> unlikely
[20:31:40] <cmn32480> as I don't believe that I installed any "extras packages
[20:34:33] <chromas> ~cowsay -f satanic slashdot!
[20:34:54] <chromas> hm, thought it had a way to pass the switch
[20:43:10] <chromas> I wonder when it became trendy for websites to specify 200pt fonts for headlines, then set it to adult size with css
[20:48:25] <cmn32480> ~cowsay
[20:48:40] <cmn32480> dunno... have to RTFSC
[20:52:22] <cmn32480> right around the time of web2.0
[20:52:35] <cmn32480> to force people into browsers taht support CSS, I'd wager
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[21:16:11] * crutchy likes the bongsay
[21:17:40] <crutchy> ooh there's also a stegosaurus!
[21:17:43] <crutchy> cowsay -f stegosaurus
[21:18:20] <crutchy> cowsay -f bong is nice too though
[21:21:42] <cmn32480> I hate people
[21:21:56] <cmn32480> especially the ones who call me 5 times to ask the same question after I answered it already
[21:22:00] * chromas whistles nonchalantly
[21:23:34] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[21:23:34] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head
[21:27:03] <cmn32480> sorry the day has been rather frustrating
[21:27:27] <cmn32480> one of the kind of days where you just wanna reach through the phone and start slapping people
[21:27:53] <cmn32480> or better, wish that your phone had a specila button that made a boxing glove pop out fo the handset on their phone and punch them in the face
[21:40:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:40:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1997
[21:41:00] <crutchy> ah '97
[21:41:31] <crutchy> old enough to appreciate life, but young enough that 9/11 was still just another day
[21:42:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bees Aren't the Only or the Best Pollinators - http://sylnt.us - climate-change-deniers-errr-bee-import-deniers
[21:43:26] <cmn32480> i can only wish 9/11 was just another day...
[21:43:26] <crutchy> i'm a denier-denier
[21:43:52] <crutchy> yeah
[21:45:01] <cmn32480> I was in college at the time. Lotta friends who lived up that way... several of the girls had to be sedated.
[21:45:21] <cmn32480> they had family working in the Towers
[21:45:23] <crutchy> damn
[21:46:01] <cmn32480> that was a bad day
[21:46:46] <crutchy> a lot of people pick on the 'allah ackbar' things going on with isis, but i guess that's kinda what you hear in 9/11 videos (the english version of course)
[21:46:58] <crutchy> everyone is screaming 'oh my god'
[21:47:17] <crutchy> humans are horrible creatures
[21:53:04] <JamesNZ> "Oh my god" != "Praise god"
[21:55:39] <crutchy> dunno. they're used in a very similar way
[21:56:05] <JamesNZ> No, they aren't :P
[21:56:10] <crutchy> i guess in english they might not be the same
[21:56:58] <JamesNZ> One is an expression of shock/horror, the other of a kind of religious fervor.
[21:57:20] <crutchy> i'm just going off what i've seen in videos
[21:57:55] <crutchy> there are no doubt different interpretations
[22:00:34] <crutchy> i imagine when you live in a wartorn country, religion is probably one of the few bastions of hope
[22:00:48] <crutchy> in an otherwise shitty existence
[22:01:29] <crutchy> we're pretty lucky where we are that we haven't had to deal with that
[22:01:58] <JamesNZ> Yeah.
[22:25:18] <cmn32480> "I lleft you voicemail. Why didn't you get back to me?"
[22:25:48] <cmn32480> "Because I was busy putting out fires all day. If people like you woudl email me, I woudl deal with yoru issue instead of having to waste time talking to your stupid ass."
[22:26:41] * cmn32480 hates idiots
[22:27:09] <cmn32480> I need an internal IT ticketing system. then I can officially ignore duplicate tickets'
[22:27:40] <cmn32480> today has been a shitty day.
[22:27:59] <cmn32480> I think I shall go home and have an adult Arnold Palmer
[22:28:14] <cmn32480> And I apologize for venting all over this channel
[22:28:32] <chromas> it's okay; we weren't using it :)
[22:28:39] <cmn32480> thanks chromas
[22:29:00] <chromas> ~define arnold palmer
[22:29:01] <exec> arnold palmer: unable to find definition
[22:29:20] <cmn32480> ~define asshat
[22:29:21] <exec> asshat: unable to find definition
[22:29:25] <cmn32480> WTF????
[22:29:28] <chromas> oh noes!
[22:29:33] <cmn32480> I had that fixed yesterday
[22:29:35] <chromas> just to pile onto your day
[22:29:41] <crutchy> without asshat my life is ooooover!
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[22:30:13] <cmn32480> you saw it crutchy
[22:30:17] <cmn32480> it worked last night!
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[22:30:24] <crutchy> cmn32480, yeah
[22:30:27] <Ethanol-fueled> G'Day gentlemen.
[22:30:31] <crutchy> aye focker!
[22:30:33] * chromas gives Ethanol-fueled SASL
[22:30:39] <cmn32480> ~gday Ethanol-fueled!
[22:30:42] * exec clumsily drops a wine flute of vibrating rooster sammich on Ethanol-fueled!
[22:30:47] <crutchy> ooh
[22:30:58] * crutchy wants vibrating rooster sammich
[22:31:11] <Ethanol-fueled> chicken and wine, the honest meal of a rural Frenchman.
[22:31:28] <Ethanol-fueled> It's gonna be lasagna tonight, though.
[22:31:45] <crutchy> oh yum
[22:31:47] <swiss> i got my patent plaque
[22:31:55] <swiss> it looks much more legit than my actual patent is!
[22:32:03] <chromas> most things do
[22:32:10] <crutchy> ddid you patent plaque?
[22:32:16] <crutchy> sue those plaque makers!
[22:32:26] <swiss> hue
[22:32:28] * chromas scrubs swiss' walls with tartar remover
[22:32:30] <crutchy> and the dentists while yer at it
[22:32:33] <crutchy> lol
[22:33:01] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, what did you patent?
[22:33:07] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: malware anaylsis
[22:33:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[22:33:11] <swiss> analysis*
[22:33:14] <crutchy> cool
[22:33:24] <crutchy> for yourself or work?
[22:33:30] <swiss> it was meant to patent a specific setup, but the patent lawyers expanded it until it encompassed basically all malware analysis
[22:33:37] <swiss> its for work
[22:33:37] <crutchy> hahaha
[22:33:44] <Ethanol-fueled> haha swiss...and next you'll have a satelite office in East Texas?
[22:33:52] <crutchy> those pesky patent attorneys
[22:33:59] <crutchy> they know how dumb the uspto is
[22:34:01] <Ethanol-fueled> That's kind of bullshit that every company makes you sign one of those agreements.
[22:34:08] <swiss> i work for large financial
[22:34:29] <crutchy> most employers pwn what you create i think
[22:34:35] <Ethanol-fueled> You could possibly get around that by developing the idea and having a trusted associate file it under their name.
[22:34:40] <cmn32480> as a general rule that is correct
[22:34:40] <crutchy> if you're employee, you're not an inventor :p
[22:34:49] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, you can negotiate, but only if they need you that badly.
[22:34:55] <crutchy> yeah
[22:35:02] <swiss> crutchy: company is the applicant, i'm listed as inventor
[22:35:08] <crutchy> oh nice
[22:35:18] <crutchy> at least you get some recognition
[22:35:29] <Ethanol-fueled> The typical agreement around these parts is, "anything you develop while employed with us, whether developed in house for work or at home for personal reasons, 24-7, belongs to us"
[22:35:42] * crutchy applies resume boost to swiss
[22:35:48] <swiss> crutchy: basically, that's all it is
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[22:35:57] <swiss> until someone challenges it in court
[22:36:02] <swiss> and it gets overturned because it's BS
[22:36:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Patents look really good though. In some more advanced tech jobs, they are a requirement.
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[22:36:18] <crutchy> the us patent system is somethin else
[22:36:31] <crutchy> got nfi how it got as bad as it is actually
[22:36:34] <crutchy> seems a bit unreal
[22:36:36] <swiss> i'm pretty sure i could patent breathing with our patent lawyers
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[22:37:08] <cmn32480> ~gnight kids
[22:37:09] * exec allegedly tosses a bathtub of $insert_beverage_here to kids
[22:37:10] <cmn32480> back later
[22:37:22] <cmn32480> got a meeting with the HVAC guy so he can suck all the money out of my wallet
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[22:37:40] <cmn32480> wow... I dind't think it was that bad
[22:38:10] <cmn32480> crutchy - Congress. They f**k up everythgin they touch
[22:38:15] <cmn32480> gotta run!
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[22:39:09] <crutchy> bye cmn32480|away
[22:39:21] <crutchy> true about congress
[22:40:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the omnibus bill is apparently a total "fuck you" to the American people.
[22:40:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Revolution time.
[22:40:20] * Ethanol-fueled moves to Montana, starts a compound
[22:40:58] <Ethanol-fueled> The flag will be Ben Garrison's head surrounded by flames.
[22:41:37] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: it's extremists fucking up our country, on both sides of the party line
[22:42:16] <Ethanol-fueled> It's money in politics. Plain and simple.
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[22:42:29] <Ethanol-fueled> It's lack of accountability with the deep state
[22:42:44] <swiss> It's also the internet
[22:43:00] <swiss> everyone now feels that they have more support for their crazy ideas because the internet lets them have a voice
[22:43:02] <GGCrazy> yo
[22:43:02] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, in the sense that people would rather bitch on Facebook then be a part of meaningful change, yes.
[22:43:15] <swiss> so now, the crazy ideas are getting too much traction
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[22:43:22] <swiss> rather than being seen as "extremist"
[22:43:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Yes, echo chambers. Metal Gear Solid 2 was right.
[22:43:29] <Bruh> crutchy, yo
[22:43:38] <crutchy> lol g'day Bruh
[22:43:47] <swiss> we need a vote of no confidence, followed by an influx of moderates who understand compromise
[22:43:54] <Ethanol-fueled> "They stay in their little ponds, leaking whatever truth suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large"
[22:44:01] <crutchy> swiss, depends on the compromise
[22:44:05] <swiss> For example, lets take obamacare
[22:44:07] <Bruh> whats up
[22:44:27] <crutchy> i wouldn't compromise on constitutional matters
[22:44:35] <Bruh> true dat ^
[22:44:40] <swiss> whether or not you're in favor of obamacare, the republican/tea party chose to fully oppose the bill, rather than shape it to fit their needs as well as the democratic party's
[22:44:50] <swiss> because they took an extremist stance
[22:45:00] <crutchy> there does seem to be fuck all debate in congress lately
[22:45:26] <crutchy> everything's gotta be pushed through at a moment's notice
[22:45:33] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, I wouldn't be so quick to toss around the term "extremist" but you are correct about them being wrong because they are stubborn, rather than seek to compromise.
[22:45:35] <crutchy> with thousands of pages that nobody reads
[22:45:36] <swiss> so instead of having all of the minds of congress working together towards putting out the most effective bill, you have half the minds of congress trying to shut down a mediocre bill, while the other half try to protect it from being shut down
[22:45:48] <crutchy> true
[22:45:51] <crutchy> :(
[22:45:56] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, I agree that is a huge problem with our government.
[22:46:01] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i'll absolutely use extremist when it comes to open socialism (bernie) vs the tea party
[22:46:14] <crutchy> one extreme or the other
[22:46:19] <crutchy> very polarized
[22:46:26] <crutchy> the media doesn't help either
[22:46:35] <swiss> I'm not saying either party is wrong or right here. I'm saying both parties are eliminating the middle
[22:46:52] <crutchy> there are some middle ground areas
[22:47:01] <crutchy> rand paul is probably on the more moderate scale
[22:47:03] <swiss> there are, but they're fewer and fewer
[22:47:11] <crutchy> he's working with democrats on social issues
[22:47:20] <swiss> rand paul and trump are the two most moderate candidates in the GOP
[22:47:25] <crutchy> like the drug war
[22:47:36] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, you're free to do that, but I find that to be a slippery-slope kinda thing, like calling people angry at government "terrorists" or people who oppose countries' foreign policies as "racists"
[22:47:41] <swiss> the fact that Trump is a moderate compared to the other candidates should be a wake up call to the other candidates
[22:48:01] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i'm saying extremist as in "at the extreme end of their party's thinking"
[22:48:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The brits have begun using the term "nonviolent extremists" to demonize "people who don't agree with us"
[22:48:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Gotcha,
[22:49:07] <swiss> imo, Obama was a decent moderate, put into the presidency while the parties turned to being extremists
[22:49:27] <crutchy> obama has flip flopped a bit
[22:49:33] <swiss> and over another congress, could have been a good president
[22:49:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I agree with that, but he made the mistake Bush II made - dicking around in foreign affairs.
[22:50:08] <swiss> sort of. He was trying to play clean up, and let congress get away from him in the process
[22:50:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I do agree with a lot of what he did or tried to do.
[22:50:35] <crutchy> problem is obama prolly has nfi what's in the bills he signs into law either
[22:50:55] <swiss> whether or not he does, he probably feels powerless with the current political climate
[22:50:56] <crutchy> his advisors just say 'yeah sign that you bitch. you know its gunna be ok'
[22:50:57] <crutchy> lol
[22:50:59] <crutchy> :P
[22:51:20] <Ethanol-fueled> he might at this point be like, fuck it. His hair is grey, he's probably doped up like fuck on Xanax to cope with the stress
[22:51:21] <swiss> I think both parties betrayed their voters
[22:51:30] <swiss> especially the republican party with the tea party movement
[22:51:56] <Ethanol-fueled> It's hilarious how the Zerohedge commenters call him "Bath-house Barry"
[22:52:01] <crutchy> the tea party movement started with ron paul, and was an effort to get rid of the neocons that infected the party
[22:52:17] <crutchy> the tea party is probably closer to the original republican party
[22:52:30] <crutchy> they just seem extreme because neocons are not conservative at all
[22:52:44] <swiss> may have *started* closer to that, but it definitely prevented a lot of movement in congress
[22:52:49] <Ethanol-fueled> They say that the tea party started out honest and moderate but was co-opted by extremists, much like the Occupy-style movements were.
[22:52:58] <crutchy> yeah prolly that too
[22:52:59] <swiss> and had a "my way or the highway" approach, rather than a "Get the most we can out of this time"
[22:53:09] <Ethanol-fueled> many of whom are probably agents-provocateurs
[22:53:11] <crutchy> the debt issue is a big one
[22:53:20] <crutchy> its gunna end up rekkin you guys
[22:53:30] <crutchy> if you're not careful
[22:53:34] <swiss> I'm waiting for Trump to win, congress to get yelled at, congress to impeach Trump, and the entire government to get revamped as they realize how fucked up they've made it
[22:54:02] <crutchy> nah they'll never blame themselves
[22:54:25] <crutchy> nice to think that would be possible though
[22:54:26] <swiss> Sanders may be a good president in another climate, but I can't see him getting anything more through congress than Obama did
[22:54:33] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm ultra-cynical about the American political process. No matter who wins, it's gonna be the same old shit. The question is how much Americans can tolerate before they openly revolt, and how effective the mechanism to pacify and clamp down on them before they do, will be.
[22:54:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm thinkin' getting my degree and bailing to Iceland.
[22:54:52] <crutchy> lol
[22:54:57] <crutchy> iceland fukked up already
[22:55:06] <Ethanol-fueled> howso?
[22:55:11] <swiss> also, if Trump wins it'll spark a lot more big business people (non-career-politicians) to run for office
[22:55:16] <crutchy> read up about iceland's banking system
[22:55:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, Iceland did found NATO.
[22:55:28] <crutchy> can't remembeer the details, but they went broke for a bit
[22:55:46] <swiss> i've always got switzerland to bail to if things get too crazy here
[22:55:49] <Ethanol-fueled> They went broke because they punished the bankers who fucked up. They cut off their noses to spite their face, and I can respect that.
[22:56:06] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, take me with you. I'm white and can shoot machine guns.
[22:56:12] <crutchy> swiss, you might get even more jobs-for-the-boys programs in that case
[22:56:21] <swiss> I am wondering how california is going to fare under the next president
[22:56:29] <crutchy> businesspeople always look after their own first
[22:56:53] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, no matter who wins, california is going to get worse.
[22:56:54] <swiss> yeah, but at least we know their allegiance
[22:57:10] <swiss> it's not like the career politicians aren't in a business's pocket
[22:57:15] <crutchy> haha yeah
[22:57:18] <Ethanol-fueled> the floodgates for more H1-B's and other visas will decimate California's standard of living.
[22:57:24] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i liked the Governator
[22:57:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Property values and rents will skyrocket in the big cities.
[22:57:49] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, for all of his superficial actors' charm, he did have some good advisors and did us a lot of good.
[22:57:58] <swiss> he was part of the Kennedy family
[22:58:07] <swiss> his wife was a Kennedy
[22:58:08] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, you need aussie immigrant policy... shoot first don't bother asking questions :p
[22:58:18] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, crutchy.
[22:58:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck off, we're full.
[22:58:31] <swiss> governor moonbeam is too crazy for me
[22:58:38] <crutchy> tbh i don't mind immigrants
[22:58:59] <swiss> I'm not mad about immigrants in america, i'm mad about our shitty halfway stance on them
[22:59:09] <crutchy> immigration would be a non-issue if governments stopped with the easy handouts
[22:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't mind them either, when they're beneficial to the whole population rather than just corporate profits.
[22:59:34] <crutchy> immigrants work hard
[22:59:41] <crutchy> they're good people for the most part
[22:59:53] <swiss> immigration would be a non-issue if the government would say "Illegal is illegal, and here's the legal method"
[23:00:02] <crutchy> yeah that too
[23:00:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Especially coming from a farming community I always hear the same old shit -- Americans would never pick lettuce. Bullshit. They would be more than happy to pick lettuce or shovel shit for even barely livable wages.
[23:00:37] <Ethanol-fueled> They won't do it for seven bucks an hour, but they will be throwing themselves at your feet to do it for fifteen.
[23:00:38] <swiss> in california, you can get a license if you're an illegal immigrant
[23:00:42] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, probably in a farming community that is true, but in cities its different
[23:01:00] <Ethanol-fueled> bullshit, crutchy.
[23:01:01] <swiss> and, if you're arrested as an illegal immigrant in most california cities, we won't deport you when your sentence is up
[23:01:13] <crutchy> the minimum wage is stupid
[23:01:14] <swiss> that's BS in my opinion
[23:01:23] <crutchy> it just makes it harder for starters to get work
[23:01:28] <Ethanol-fueled> and since California doesn't adequately punish illegals, more and more enter hoping to get a piece of the gravy-train.
[23:01:40] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: it hurts them too
[23:01:45] <swiss> that's the point to really think about
[23:01:50] <crutchy> if there are people willing to pick fruit for $7/hr, then that is what its worth
[23:01:53] <swiss> the shitty middleground stance hurts EVERYONE
[23:02:13] <swiss> because illegals will NEVER be treated the same as citizens (that's why we don't make them citizens)
[23:02:16] <crutchy> the whole 'livable wage' is communist bullshit
[23:02:35] <swiss> crutchy: the "we need more than $10 minimum wage throughout the country" definitely is
[23:02:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I believe in a minimum wage. I also believe in protectionism.
[23:02:49] <swiss> you don't need more than $10/hr as a waitress in utah
[23:02:55] <crutchy> mimum wage only hurts the poor
[23:03:06] <crutchy> makes it harder for kids to climb the ladder
[23:03:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I believe in affordable housing.
[23:03:21] <Ethanol-fueled> But greedy people gonna greed and fuck things up for the rest of us.
[23:03:30] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: what do you do when more of the population wants to live in once place?\
[23:03:37] <swiss> more than you can fit into that area?
[23:03:42] <crutchy> many kids would be happy to work for free for a bit, just to get some skills and start working up the chain
[23:03:47] <crutchy> i know i was
[23:04:09] <crutchy> but minimum wage makes it illegal
[23:04:18] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, you put a stop to building new housing and strictly enforce building code, meaning, a maximum of x amount of people may live every y square feet.
[23:04:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course that's not gonna happen because greedy property developers have a lot of political clout.
[23:05:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Which is why we need more low-income housing in traditionally high-income areas.
[23:05:12] <crutchy> government guaranteed home loans drove your property prices through the roof
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[23:05:22] <Ethanol-fueled> The kingmakers will change their tune once it's in THEIR backyard.
[23:06:01] <crutchy> even in australia property prices are too high, but we have a low interest rate too
[23:06:16] <SirFinkus> you're in early Ethanol-fueled
[23:06:25] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: but then what happens when MORE PEOPLE want to live there?
[23:06:33] <swiss> what happens when low-income housing is FULL?
[23:06:37] <SirFinkus> the crazy guy with all the signs put up a bunch of flags, looks like the UN
[23:06:38] <crutchy> hmm yeah? weren't drinking last night
[23:06:41] <Ethanol-fueled> sup Fink. Yeah, vacation. Just went on a fat run and surf, trying to get an early bedtime.
[23:07:23] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, I forgot to mention that there should be a limit, where no more people are allowed to move.
[23:07:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Then they'd have to wait in a queue. All non-citizens, of course, would be expelled.
[23:07:49] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: how do determine who is allowed to live there then? And what do you tell the people who want to live there after its full?
[23:07:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Unless they used legal methods of seeking immigration.
[23:08:13] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, you say, "fuck off, we're full," and then put them in a queue.
[23:08:17] <crutchy> you gunna force people to live where they are? lol nazi much?
[23:08:30] <crutchy> what if people wanna get out of cities?
[23:08:39] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: then people will start renting out their housing that they already have for more than you're charging for rent
[23:08:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm talking only cities. There's plenty of rural area in California people can live.
[23:09:23] <crutchy> problem with using force is that even if it seems like its for a good cause, that force will be corrupted/bought/abused
[23:09:35] <swiss> thing is, unless you start making it cost more to live in the area, you'll have too many people trying to live in too little area
[23:09:35] <Ethanol-fueled> for that matter, everything is corrupt.
[23:09:46] <swiss> and then you'll have people saying they have the RIGHT to live in that area
[23:10:09] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, L.A. is expensive, and yet, they have way more than half a million illegals living there.
[23:10:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Probbaly at least double that.
[23:10:28] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, its full of democrats
[23:10:34] <chromie> we need Futurama-robot-style apartment buildings. Pack 'em into closets!
[23:10:40] <crutchy> lol
[23:10:42] <swiss> we have overfilled low income housing, that isn't following building code
[23:10:43] <crutchy> you mean japanese
[23:10:47] <Ethanol-fueled> chromie, don't give them ideas. they're doing it already.
[23:10:48] <swiss> also, we have a shit ton of homeless
[23:11:02] <Ethanol-fueled> They want the united states to have the population density of Tokyo and the quality of life of Delhi slums.
[23:11:15] <SirFinkus> I'll take Japan's awesome zoning laws though
[23:11:24] <Ethanol-fueled> How are they awesome, Fink?
[23:11:47] <SirFinkus> they just make more sense
[23:11:48] <SirFinkus> http://urbankchoze.blogspot.com
[23:12:18] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: basically, what i'm saying is that capitalism is what drives the housing costs. The reason for low income housing is to include a workforce for the low income jobs, rather than pay them high income wages
[23:12:24] <crutchy> ergh
[23:12:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[23:12:39] <SirFinkus> shared light commercial and residential
[23:12:40] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus++
[23:12:40] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 20
[23:12:45] <crutchy> yeah cos federal bureaucrats are awesome at deciding how cities should be
[23:13:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Tests Partially 3D-Printed Rocket Engine - http://sylnt.us - whip-us-up-a-rocketship
[23:13:32] <SirFinkus> basically each building type is assigned a nuisance level, and you can build the building in a zone if the nuisance level is low enough
[23:13:37] <Ethanol-fueled> One of the biggest gripes I have about San Diego is that the public transporation sucks.
[23:13:56] <swiss> you can thank Ford/GM/Tire company for LA and SD public transi
[23:14:06] <SirFinkus> http://1.bp.blogspot.com is kind of the tl:dr
[23:14:23] <crutchy> apparently google tried something, but i guess it flopped for $reason
[23:14:41] <Ethanol-fueled> L.A. is kinda bad too but you can get anywhere in roughly the same amount of time by proportion.
[23:15:04] <chromie> crutchy: good idea! turn containers into apartments and stack 'em
[23:15:09] <crutchy> public transport here is pretty shit too
[23:15:25] <crutchy> chromie, nah i think it was something to do with buses or something
[23:15:30] <Ethanol-fueled> San Diego south of Clairmont Mesa Boulevard is decent, but if you want to go past that, forget about it. It's an extra 3-4 hours out of your day to go what would be a half-hour drive.
[23:15:35] <crutchy> from (admittedly vague) memory
[23:15:59] <SirFinkus> seattle isn't bad, they're expanding the light rail too, which will be awesome
[23:16:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Because there's only like one way to get from South to North and vise-versa, and it's the coaster train.
[23:16:37] <Ethanol-fueled> that is changing, though, but won't be implemented for another couple years. And from what I've heard it's only gonna be one bus corridor along the 15 freeway.
[23:16:41] <SirFinkus> now if we could stop spending billions of dollars on that retarded alaska way viaduct tunnel...
[23:16:50] <crutchy> i think google tried to make a free bus service for its employees maybe?
[23:17:18] <SirFinkus> are they still doing that? I thought they stopped because of people bitching about "gentrification" and throwing rocks at them
[23:17:20] <crutchy> nobody used it or some shit. can't remember
[23:17:25] <crutchy> oh
[23:17:27] <crutchy> yeah maybe
[23:17:40] <SirFinkus> employees loved it, busses had wifi and everything
[23:18:00] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, and I fully support anti-gentrification efforts.
[23:18:04] <crutchy> i wouldn't have used it
[23:18:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, they are probably still doing it.
[23:18:30] <crutchy> kills the concept of flexitime
[23:18:36] <Ethanol-fueled> THe issue was that the Google busses used the public bus-stops but didn't have to pay some fee, than they started paying it.
[23:19:06] <SirFinkus> well, that's what the rock throwers said it was, but it seemed to be more about gentrification
[23:19:07] <crutchy> also, i hate waiting at bus stops :p
[23:19:16] <Ethanol-fueled> gentrification--
[23:19:16] <Bender> karma - gentrification: -1
[23:19:30] <Ethanol-fueled> crutch-dawg, are you drive-to-work scum like I am?
[23:19:41] <chromie> he's a roo-rider
[23:19:48] <chromie> pouches with wifi
[23:19:52] <Ethanol-fueled> and a roo-focker
[23:19:54] * Ethanol-fueled ducks
[23:20:10] <chromie> Ethanol-fueled: s/u/o/
[23:20:23] <SirFinkus> I'm not pro or anti gentrification
[23:20:43] <SirFinkus> it's like saying you're pro or anti demographics changes
[23:20:48] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm strictly anti. I will go to bars and talk shit to the owner if I hear Mumford and Sons on the jukebox.
[23:21:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll antagonize people in public if I think they're transplant hipsters.
[23:21:35] <SirFinkus> it isn't really a political issue
[23:21:58] <Ethanol-fueled> For example, when getting coffee, I'll tell the (amused staff who like me), "yeah, I'll just have some coffee, none of that hipster shit"
[23:22:14] <Ethanol-fueled> or "People in this neighborhood are rude assholes, aren't they?"
[23:22:25] <SirFinkus> I don't think "ban all hipsters" is a viable political platform when you're running for city council
[23:22:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Motherfuckers holding up 10-deep lines over the wrong kind of organic lettuce and shit.
[23:22:49] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, of course not. Because hipsters have money.
[23:22:55] <SirFinkus> just watch, Trump is going to say he wants to deport all hipsters any minute now
[23:23:00] <SirFinkus> and prove me wrong
[23:23:16] * Ethanol-fueled kneads dick
[23:23:27] <Ethanol-fueled> No, he won't, because hipsters bring in money,
[23:23:46] <SirFinkus> remember way back in 2008 at when people thought that trying to have a moon base was a wacky idea?
[23:23:48] <Ethanol-fueled> which is good, if they weren't such vapid assholes who damage unique pockets of real culture.
[23:23:54] <SirFinkus> forgot which candidate proposed it
[23:24:00] <SirFinkus> it was a democrat
[23:24:26] <SirFinkus> Newt Gingrich
[23:24:28] <Ethanol-fueled> That candidate was speaking ironically, and as a result of their charming joke, they secured the hipster vote.
[23:24:59] <SirFinkus> guess it was the newt, could have sworn it was a democrat
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[23:25:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit, a moon base would be awesome.
[23:26:15] <SirFinkus> absolutely
[23:26:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Bush II proposed it, probably as a joke, but still, a rad idea.
[23:26:49] <Ethanol-fueled> If we were investing in space travel rather than petty squabbles we would have the cred to consider ourselves "above the other animals."
[23:26:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Sadly, that isn't yet true.
[23:27:05] <SirFinkus> presidential candidates tend to dangle the "GO BACK IN SPACE" thing in their campaigns, but then sign laws that cut NASA's budget
[23:27:10] <SirFinkus> it's just lip service
[23:27:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't even think it's lip service...I just think it's a thinky-veiled Space-race reference.
[23:27:54] <SirFinkus> NASA has been doing a pretty good job with their limited resources, that Curiosity rover project is awesome
[23:27:59] <Ethanol-fueled> even though we need RUSSIAN boosters to send shit into space.
[23:28:56] <SirFinkus> we basically got to the point where we had the tech to nuke any point on earth from any other point on earth and stopped
[23:29:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds productive.
[23:29:39] <SirFinkus> the space program was a thin justification to develop guidance systems, rockets, and spy satellites
[23:29:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course.
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[23:32:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Very paranoid and animalistic.
[23:32:11] <Ethanol-fueled> "everything's a threat"
[23:32:28] <Ethanol-fueled> like a cowardly eye-eye sleeping on a tree branch.
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[23:38:09] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[23:38:10] <exec> 10Olympia, WA, USA - currently 37°F / 3°C, light rain showers, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 94% - Monday scattered showers (37°F:40°F / 3°C:4°C), Tuesday rain (37°F:43°F / 3°C:6°C), Wednesday thunderstorm (34°F:42°F / 1°C:6°C), Thursday cloudy (31°F:40°F / -1°C:4°C)
[23:38:26] <SirFinkus> yeah, ok
[23:38:30] <SirFinkus> fucking blizzard outside
[23:39:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[23:39:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Wish we could get a blizzard once in awhile.
[23:40:17] <nick> ...
[23:40:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Probably because I was a kid who was around a lot of snow. Lived in Flagstaff AZ and with family ties to Mid-upper Washington
[23:41:11] <SirFinkus> rarely get snow around here
[23:41:17] <SirFinkus> this shit isn't even sticking
[23:41:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Seems you get more rain in those parts.
[23:45:16] <SirFinkus> oh, just got back from the doctor. They left me alone in the room with a windows 7 machine with an admin account logged in and my medical records up
[23:45:28] <SirFinkus> inspires confidence in their data security
[23:45:40] <SirFinkus> which I had brought a usb key
[23:45:57] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, sweet. Did you pen-test?
[23:46:20] <SirFinkus> what's to test? they're pwned
[23:46:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, well, fuck 'em.
[23:46:42] <SirFinkus> I had 15 minutes, and they always knock before they come in
[23:46:51] <Ethanol-fueled> They're subject to HIPAA. That's just sloppy.
[23:47:48] <crutchy> install a keylogger. then you get existing and future records :D
[23:48:09] <chromas> 'upgrade' it to win10
[23:48:11] <crutchy> well only future with the keylogger. existing with the usb stick
[23:48:25] <SirFinkus> or I could have just used the password written on the stickynote stuck to the monitor
[23:48:29] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAAHAH
[23:48:46] <chromas> change the password :D
[23:48:56] <Ethanol-fueled> sheesh, at least keep it on a stickynote under the mat.
[23:49:13] <crutchy> user profiles are hard :p
[23:49:15] <chromas> or under a fake rock
[23:49:33] <Ethanol-fueled> disabling autoplay or USB ports or any active directory shit is hard.
[23:49:33] <crutchy> if its the only fake rock in the room nobody will know
[23:50:02] <Ethanol-fueled> locking a workstation is hard.
[23:50:03] <crutchy> security by obviouty
[23:50:20] <crutchy> 'nah nobody would be dumb enough to use hunter2 as a password'
[23:50:28] <SirFinkus> it's the "surely it wouldn't be that easy/obvious" strategy
[23:50:36] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: do you even know how many muscles it takes to hold Win and L at the same time?
[23:50:53] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that sounds like a lot.
[23:51:09] <crutchy> government keyboards don't allow simultaneous keypresses. that would be oppression of keyboards
[23:51:38] <crutchy> #keyboardlivesmatter
[23:51:54] <chromas> ~oppress crutchy
[23:52:15] <Ethanol-fueled> In a medical setting you're dealing with people who are M.D.s or Nurses. that's not trivial, both of those had to pass a lot of classes involving logic.
[23:52:40] <crutchy> especially the receptionist
[23:52:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I've noticed since Obamacare kicked in they care a lot less...though they just may have contempt for their patients, as a retail worker has with customers.
[23:53:12] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, that's true, crutchy.
[23:53:32] <Ethanol-fueled> That's the one I ask to print out all of my test results.
[23:53:59] <Ethanol-fueled> But to be fair a doctor has to give those the go-ahead to print out what I've asked for, where I'm at.
[23:54:15] <crutchy> you will swallow your oligarchy masquerading as socialism! and enjoy it!
[23:54:40] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I'm moving to Norway or Switzerland, or Iceland, when I graduate.
[23:54:58] <SirFinkus> Oligarchy needs to buy me dinner first
[23:55:14] <crutchy> fuck norway. i hate cold
[23:55:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The weather sucks, but at least we can have snowball fights and drinks near a fireplace.
[23:55:57] <crutchy> norway and sweden are also just a little to close to moscow for my liking
[23:56:03] <crutchy> *too
[23:56:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Pfffft, Russia want to cooperate and not fight.
[23:56:50] <SirFinkus> cock.li got raided
[23:56:53] <Ethanol-fueled> They're not the ones to be afraid of.
[23:56:59] <crutchy> they do, but when nato pushes, moscow is gunna steamroll
[23:57:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe NATO shouldn't push, then.
[23:57:15] <crutchy> true
[23:57:26] <crutchy> that would require sense on nato's part though :p
[23:57:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe NATO and the Russians, and AMerica, should all steamroll the real problem in the world:
[23:57:44] <Ethanol-fueled> The Middle East.
[23:57:46] <SirFinkus> http://arstechnica.com
[23:57:47] <systemd> ^ 03Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces | Ars Technica
[23:57:59] <crutchy> russia is working on that as we speak :D
[23:58:27] <crutchy> bomb first, ask err.... don't ask questions
[23:58:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Middle-Easterners have decent food, a rich cultural history...but not lately. It's time to take out the trash!
[23:58:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Godspeed, Putin!
[23:59:09] <swiss> honestly, the USSR really controlled the middle east well
[23:59:24] <swiss> if we weren't on shitty terms with the USSR... would it have been so bad to let them control the zones?
[23:59:31] <Ethanol-fueled> And their intervention created the Arab-Afghans.