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[00:00:25] <sea> and then each of the mini-jokes is wrapped up in this big olympic metaphor that I can't figure out. I'm not sure what the points mean..and this tumblr special olympics section on the side, drawn crudely..I don't get it, but it's obviously meant to be funny
[00:01:36] <sea> I'll give it another 15 minutes worth of thought, then say it just went over my head and give up
[00:02:57] <arti> lol oppression olympics
[00:03:05] <sea> :/
[00:03:15] <sea> Damnit! Arti gets it but not me
[00:03:58] <arti> are you esl?
[00:04:28] * sea thinks a/s/l with the a swapped for e.. hmm
[00:04:35] <arti> native english speaker?
[00:04:43] <sea> Oh, yeah I speak english natively
[00:04:50] <arti> wonderful
[00:05:12] <arti> minority incidents generate more response
[00:05:29] <arti> sorta like mass shootings are up but overall gun deaths are down
[00:05:49] <arti> also, gun deaths make you more dead than other kinds of dead.
[00:06:48] <sea> Okay, so how does this relate to the olympics?
[00:07:18] <sea> So for instance, I see that disabled people come in 9th
[00:07:38] <sea> ..and women come in 7th. Is this because there are more women than disabled people?
[00:08:50] <sea> no, wait, you're saying that women have a higher place in the olympics here because their oppression stuff is /less/ common than disabled people oppression
[00:09:27] <sea> but then why are black people at the top? This makes no sense
[00:09:40] <chromas> Women are more oppressed than disabled people
[00:09:47] <chromas> Disabled women are even more oppressed
[00:10:05] <sea> Whaaat? but disabled people are clearly more oppressed than women
[00:10:57] <chromas> Disabled black transracial vegan Muslim transgendered women are even more oppressed
[00:11:18] <sea> :S I'm so confused
[00:11:22] <sea> I give up
[00:11:25] <sea> I'm gonna go make dinner
[00:13:16] <chromas> It doesn't have to make sense. Just understand that anyone farther down the chain is oppressing you
[00:13:32] <arti> sorry, making more popcorn
[00:13:37] <arti> -more
[00:13:58] <chromas> If you disagree, then you're just internalizing your misogyny, racism, trans-ism, sexism
[00:14:22] <sea> Nope, don't even try to explain it anymore. This oppression stuff is too complicated for me
[00:15:16] <arti> sea, it's an extremely objective chart
[00:15:55] <chromas> Then you, sir (or ma'am (or otherkin)) just may be a normal adult human being
[00:16:14] <sea> I'm going to stick to simple graduate mathematics, thank you very much.
[00:16:14] <arti> apache attack helicopter
[00:16:18] <arti> get it right
[00:16:25] <sea> The kinda stuff that doesn't make me go HUH? so often as this chart.
[00:16:42] <sea> Also, I can't decide whether I want chicken or fish for dinner
[00:16:47] <sea> Somebody pick for me
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[00:18:34] <chromas> $coin chicken fish
[00:18:34] * aqu4 flips a Mexican peso on "chicken fish"
[00:18:35] <aqu4> I got tails.
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[00:19:09] <chromas> Well there ya go. Fish have tails; chickens only have tail feathers
[00:19:09] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:19:21] <chromas> Hey BadCoderFinger
[00:23:50] <BadCoderFinger> Hey chromas, how are you?
[00:25:38] <chromas> Not bad. How's the finger?
[00:25:53] <BadCoderFinger> Itching to code, heh.
[00:26:28] <BadCoderFinger> It will be coding, as soon as I get shelled in to work.
[00:27:41] <takyon> yada
[00:27:47] <arti> nice
[00:27:54] <arti> coding up some 'sploits?
[00:28:22] <BadCoderFinger> Nah, nothing fun, just some socket code.
[00:28:29] <arti> C?
[00:28:39] <BadCoderFinger> Cpp
[00:28:48] <arti> filthy casual
[00:29:17] <takyon> what, no C#
[00:29:26] <arti> it's got sharp edges
[00:29:33] <chromas> When will C** be a thing?
[00:29:34] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. It cuts the screen.
[00:29:40] <cmn32480> wear gloves when hadnling
[00:30:13] <takyon> what, no C++16
[00:31:15] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. I guess they can't stop screwing around with the language.
[00:31:54] <BadCoderFinger> C++NoCompilerCanPossiblyKeepUpWithOurChanges
[00:32:42] <arti> that sucks
[00:32:58] <arti> it's also nice, besides the syntax that it's keeping up
[00:34:50] * chromas invents ++C, which is C that's improved before you receive it instead of after
[00:35:30] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:36:39] <BadCoderFinger> At least I can use vim. Everybody at work loves visual studio.
[00:37:29] <chromas> If it doesn't need a splash screen to let you know it's about to start loading, it can't be that useful
[00:38:46] <BadCoderFinger> If they could get the editor into the splash screen, it might save some time.
[00:39:07] <chromas> Remember when web browsers had splash screens?
[00:40:01] <chromas> We need Forest Gump for computers. "Hey old people, remember this? And this? And this?"
[00:43:51] <BadCoderFinger> That's a thought, replacing the splash screen with an arbitrary image...
[00:44:29] <chromas> Giv vim a splash screen, load emacs into it
[00:44:50] <BadCoderFinger> Funny you say that, there's a video of neovim running emacs inside it.
[00:47:34] <arti> visual studio is a beast to start up
[00:48:18] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, and it's not any better once it starts.
[01:00:51] <sea> C++16? Oooh.
[01:01:29] <BadCoderFinger> C++OhGodISleptLateWhatIsTheRevisionNumberNow
[01:01:51] <sea> I like all the new sea plus pluses
[01:01:59] <sea> They always add cool new stuff.
[01:02:02] <sea> Useful new features.
[01:02:41] <BadCoderFinger> All the bloat they can suck up from boost.
[01:03:08] <sea> The fact that C++ is one of the few languages which supports multithreading in the standard is a big deal.
[01:03:27] <arti> o.o
[01:04:02] <BadCoderFinger> sea: Well, now. Sort of.
[01:04:15] <arti> "few"
[01:04:21] <sea> It's got std::thread and std::mutex, and all that.
[01:04:28] <BadCoderFinger> I like OpenMP, but I prefer pthreads for more fine-grained thread control.
[01:04:51] <arti> are you using sea lion btw?
[01:07:23] <sea> Every time someone suggests I learn "language X", I ask them: Does the standard include complex numbers, threads, sets, lists, vectors, maps, multimaps, and can it do networking?
[01:07:52] <sea> Haskell doesn't do complex numbers. Lisp doesn't do networking. Erlang doesn't do sets or maps. and so on. That question eliminates almost all languages but C++
[01:08:35] <sea> Haskell CAN do complex numbers but it needs an external library and that fucking type-checker throws errors if I so much as try to coerce an integer to a complex.
[01:09:16] <arti> everything has warts
[01:09:30] <sea> Yes, but C++ as the /least/ warts.
[01:09:34] <arti> hahaha
[01:10:19] <chromas> Std:: isn't part of the language; it's just the standard lib
[01:10:23] <sea> It does everything in the standard. I've even got a symbolic algebra library that's just a simple header that I can #include. I wouldn't be surprised if C++16 included fast fourier transforms. Seriously.
[01:10:24] <BadCoderFinger> Erlang doesn't do X (where X == anything useful to programmers)
[01:10:46] <sea> Actually that'd be my killer feature. I should request that.
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[01:13:28] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
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[01:13:52] <BadCoderFinger> Dangit, I did not expect that to happen.
[01:13:58] <arti> he must have the addon that crashes his client when you type his name
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[01:14:11] <arti> either that or he's hanging with the cool kids now and can't be seen greeting you
[01:14:19] <BadCoderFinger> I get that a lot.
[01:14:23] <arti> [ hidden ircing intensifies ]
[01:14:59] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe his splash screen just hadn't finished loading.
[01:16:05] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm....
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[01:16:57] <SpallsHurgenson> my client didn't send a quit message :(
[01:17:13] <arti> Client Quit.
[01:17:18] <arti> it was very terse.
[01:17:19] <BadCoderFinger> Guess it's making a statement about pants.
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[01:17:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Concrete for Mars Shelters Made from Martian Materials - http://sylnt.us - Martian-Yurts?
[01:17:45] <arti> Awww Yurts
[01:17:52] <takyon> hmm
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[01:18:30] <SpallsHurgenson> you mean all these months I've been saying something funny when I leave the channel and nobody's seen my jokes?!?!?
[01:18:31] <BadCoderFinger> Client gives up the sodding ghost, heads to the pub for a pint of misery.
[01:19:37] <arti> *slavery
[01:19:42] <takyon> I don't remember. So it's either a client problem or a joke problem
[01:20:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I blame Microsoft
[01:20:06] <arti> probably a joke problem.
[01:20:10] <arti> microsoft__
[01:20:12] <arti> microsoft--
[01:20:12] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -22
[01:20:14] <arti> :D
[01:21:36] <chromas> ~random nick=SpallsHurgenson type=quit
[01:21:41] <exec> 03[2015-07-11 03:23:2] #Soylent <SpallsHurgenson> Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[01:21:49] <arti> that's a good joke.
[01:21:53] <arti> spalls++
[01:21:53] <Bender> karma - spalls: 2
[01:23:56] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of Microsoft... http://arstechnica.com
[01:23:57] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03IDC: PC sales drop to levels not seen since 2007 | Ars Technica
[01:24:24] <sea> Bah, PC sales drop because people are buying raspberry pis and stuff like that
[01:24:26] <arti> muh phone
[01:24:29] <SpallsHurgenson> in 2007, MS was pushing Vista. Sales plummeted. In 2015, MS pushes Win10. Sales plummet. connection?
[01:24:44] <arti> windows10 is good, it's a higher number.
[01:24:58] <sea> but 95 is higher than 10, and 2000 is higher than 95
[01:25:00] <arti> higher numbers are always better, look at the firefox version numbers along with chrome
[01:25:13] <sea> and -1 is higher than all of them combined!
[01:25:16] <arti> the numbers roll over.
[01:25:21] <arti> just like gpus.
[01:25:36] <arti> add in some letters to be sure too, C++ 17 LXI
[01:25:46] <arti> that's a luxury standard right there.
[01:25:55] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: It's windows. Sales aren't tied to anything real. People are buying fewer and fewer PCs, they want phones and tablets. The only thing floating MS is the corporate market.
[01:26:06] <sea> Cloud EnterPrise Edition RC1 Build 93913 Codename: "Banana Fudge Sundae Ice Cream Drama Queen"
[01:26:15] * arti golf claps
[01:26:20] <SpallsHurgenson> stop using facts while I'm bashing windows10!
[01:26:23] <arti> that should do the trick.
[01:26:29] <sea> arti: We'll make a fortune selling that.
[01:26:46] <sea> That's the version number of this rock I found. I'm selling it for $1000.00
[01:27:03] * SpallsHurgenson spreads a rumor that the next major update for win10 will use systemd :)
[01:27:03] <arti> tell people it's an unpolished crystal
[01:27:18] <arti> syndromed already exists in windaz
[01:27:31] <arti> svchost ninja
[01:27:55] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, what's the numerical value of "vista" anyway?
[01:28:03] <arti> 7.1?
[01:28:10] <arti> 6.1
[01:28:14] <sea> It's 6 and a bit
[01:28:16] <BadCoderFinger> -50
[01:28:22] <arti> 6.1-50^2
[01:28:27] <cmn32480> ~weather
[01:28:29] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 27°F / -3°C, mostly cloudy, wind SW at 2 mph, humidity 36% - Wednesday mostly cloudy (24°F:28°F / -4°C:-2°C), Thursday sunny (34°F:48°F / 1°C:9°C), Friday mostly cloudy (39°F:50°F / 4°C:10°C), Saturday partly cloudy (31°F:47°F / -1°C:8°C)
[01:28:35] <sea> Ooh!
[01:28:40] * SpallsHurgenson needs something that can convert from base36
[01:28:41] <sea> I'm gonna freak someone out with that
[01:28:44] <sea> ~weather Seattle
[01:28:46] <exec> 10Seattle, WA, USA - currently 43°F / 6°C, cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 86% - Wednesday scattered showers (38°F:44°F / 3°C:7°C), Thursday partly cloudy (39°F:46°F / 4°C:8°C), Friday rain (41°F:47°F / 5°C:8°C), Saturday rain (43°F:49°F / 6°C:9°C)
[01:29:06] <cmn32480> imagine that... rain in the forecast for Seattle...
[01:29:12] <sea> Okay, now I'll pretend to be psychic and tell this person what temperature it is outside.
[01:29:12] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: I think zsh can do it with the 36# prefix.
[01:29:41] <arti> freezing rain
[01:29:41] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, in base36 VISTA is equal to 52945246 in decimal :)
[01:30:27] <SpallsHurgenson> (at least, so says some random site on the internet I'm too lazy to double-check its accuracy :)
[01:30:50] <takyon> what is base 36 for
[01:31:30] <SpallsHurgenson> its like Area51, but for bigfoot instead of aliens
[01:31:39] <arti> it comes after base 35
[01:31:47] <sea> I'm an expert on aliens, and martians in particular.
[01:31:52] <BadCoderFinger> takyon: Storing very large numbers, like public keys, in an ASCII format.
[01:31:56] <arti> i would imagine so, so close to canada
[01:31:56] <takyon> you should embrace base 60
[01:31:59] <sea> I'm actually the head of a podcast on aliens among us.
[01:32:08] <arti> "not saying it's aliens..."
[01:32:12] <sea> BUT IT WAS MARTIANS
[01:32:20] <arti> damn green bastids
[01:32:27] <sea> Actually the martians are purple.
[01:32:32] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I forgot to pick up the dvd for The Martian today
[01:32:36] <arti> just depends on the light.
[01:32:59] <takyon> well if it's storage you want, I think there are 64 easily usable characters
[01:33:13] <arti> did you know that martians favorite chocolate bar is a mars bar?
[01:33:19] <sea> That is SO false.
[01:33:42] <takyon> no martians favorite chocolate bar is Pay Day
[01:33:49] <takyon> because they are all miners on contract
[01:33:52] <sea> We have evidence strongly suggesting that it's Oh Henry
[01:34:21] <BadCoderFinger> It's more like 3 Musketeers, since there are no peanuts on Mars.
[01:34:45] <takyon> no it's Milky Way, because Mars is just a pit stop to the galaxy!
[01:35:08] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:35:22] * arti yawns in return
[01:35:35] * BadCoderFinger barely avoids yawning.
[01:35:44] * cmn32480 winks
[01:35:46] * BadCoderFinger has a beer instead.
[01:35:55] * cmn32480 blinks
[01:36:02] <takyon> BadCoderFinger
[01:36:11] * sea opens wide to yawn and...bites a donut..
[01:36:19] <sea> mm...donuts..
[01:36:22] <takyon> if you want to store things in ASCII, why not use uppercase, lowercase, numerals, and two symbols for a total of 64 characters
[01:37:03] <sea> Do you get more symbols if you do it in two different fonts? ;)
[01:37:03] <chromas> What if your storage/transport is case insensitive?
[01:37:05] <BadCoderFinger> takyon: That would work, but the tools I work with export and import base 36, so that's what I use most often.
[01:37:22] <BadCoderFinger> sea: Use emacs, that way you can use many fonts.
[01:37:28] <arti> chromas: like non-PC?
[01:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea++
[01:37:52] <Bender> karma - tea: 525
[01:38:07] <chromas> exactly. windowphobes
[01:38:11] <SpallsHurgenson> poor ö gets the shaft again
[01:38:13] <arti> speaking of drinks, where is coffee
[01:38:19] <arti> coffee++
[01:38:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2077
[01:38:26] <arti> neat.
[01:38:44] <cmn32480> arti - it's that brown stuff in the pit from this morning. but that isn't important right now
[01:38:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, ain't that the year of the big war in the fallout series?
[01:38:54] <SpallsHurgenson> surely you're not serious
[01:39:03] <arti> yex.
[01:39:16] <arti> beware the synths
[01:39:50] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley.
[01:39:50] <sea> BadCoderFinger: Base36 only gives you about a 55% improvement in data size over Base10. You might as well just eat the extra filesize and go base10. It makes it easier to fiddle with the data using other programs.
[01:39:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind the synths. it's the rads that bug me.
[01:40:03] * chromas playth the thynthethither
[01:40:08] <arti> now kith
[01:40:10] <BadCoderFinger> sea: You don't have to convince me, heh.
[01:40:17] * SirFinkus is beginning to question whether "culture" is a thing that actually exists, and that can be studied
[01:40:23] <SpallsHurgenson> nobody discuss fallout. I'm trying to hold out on buying fo4 until the goty is available, and I have weak willpower
[01:40:32] <SirFinkus> I'm deep down the rabbit hole now
[01:40:34] <arti> ask the zentradi
[01:40:43] <sea> BadCoderFinger: What you should do is make a simple translation program that you can pipe your data into immediately after it's produced
[01:40:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, console or pc?
[01:41:03] <takyon> knowing Bethesda, there GOTY include DLC+expansions...... so you'll be waiting a long time
[01:41:11] <SirFinkus> still using the book an lectures as a source
[01:41:31] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB: if my previous purchase history is anything to go by... both :)
[01:41:47] <chromas> some DLC+expansions. Then later, a new GotY
[01:42:01] <arti> some D.
[01:42:06] * sea thinks GotY, then thinks DatY, then hmms..
[01:42:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> go ahead n hold out then. mods will reportedly be available for console sometime this year.
[01:42:19] <BadCoderFinger> sea: True enough, if it was an issue. Both read base36 though, so that works for now.
[01:42:20] <arti> that should be fun
[01:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> so you can run around nekkid instead of wearin pants
[01:42:27] <arti> "why is my console running out of ram?"
[01:42:28] <takyon> nude mods
[01:42:28] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I don't PLAY it on console. I just buy it for them :)
[01:42:34] <takyon> total conversions
[01:43:07] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.fudzilla.com
[01:43:08] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Employer allowed to read your private emails
[01:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i done got the good nudie mods for pc. prolly load them up this weekend.
[01:43:09] <cmn32480> buzzard... we can all do that in real life... jsut that nobody wansts to see it!
[01:43:37] <BadCoderFinger> cmn32480: That does not explain Spalls' webcam.
[01:43:43] <sea> Bah, you're doing it wrong. Almost everybody wants to see, they just pretend they don't.
[01:43:47] <takyon> BadCoderFinger: link
[01:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, around here you ain't wrong. haven't seen more than half a dozen women worth seeing without pants in the whole state.
[01:44:05] <cmn32480> seee??????
[01:44:07] <cmn32480> told you
[01:44:14] <BadCoderFinger> takyon: Heh! It's not like his password is hard to guess: PantslessOnTheInternet
[01:44:18] <cmn32480> and I absolutely don't wanna see you w/o pants
[01:44:22] <takyon> where do you live, Alaska?
[01:44:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> TN
[01:44:32] <takyon> oh
[01:44:32] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arxiv.org (Stephen Hawking figures out black holes or something.)
[01:44:35] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03[1601.00921] Soft Hair on Black Holes
[01:44:43] <sea> lol, soft hair on black holes
[01:44:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> back in oklahoma, plenty of chicks what made wrangler jeans look goooood
[01:44:49] <takyon> The Register's article was pretty good
[01:44:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> here, not so much.
[01:45:04] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:45:05] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Stephen Hawking reckons he's cracked the black hole paradox • The Register
[01:45:22] <takyon> I wouldn't want to be the one to submit that
[01:45:26] <arti> he calls it the Compton Complex
[01:45:42] <takyon> I'm guessing P666 will submit a blockquote form of that story
[01:45:47] <arti> *blackquote
[01:45:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #blackuweather
[01:45:59] <MrPlow> T'day: How da fuck am I know dat shit? T'marra: Shit bright, get yo shades. Shit be aight. Dey a lil breeze.
[01:45:59] <takyon> u wot m8
[01:45:59] <cmn32480> #blackuweather
[01:45:59] <MrPlow> Yo ass ain get no wetha, bitch.
[01:46:10] <arti> hahaha
[01:46:14] <arti> EF
[01:46:16] <cmn32480> #blackuweather baltimore
[01:46:16] <MrPlow> Yo ass ain get no wetha, bitch.
[01:46:20] <cmn32480> #blackuweather baltimore, MD
[01:46:20] <MrPlow> T'day: How da fuck am I know dat shit? T'marra: Shit bright, get yo shades. It fuck'n cold! Dey a lil breeze.
[01:46:24] <arti> wait, thas chromie
[01:46:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.fudzilla.com
[01:46:25] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Intel claims most don’t need a GPU
[01:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> it parses evening weather poorly
[01:46:49] <arti> lives up to its name "poor parser"
[01:46:49] <takyon> this is the first time i've seen this
[01:47:02] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.computerworld.com
[01:47:02] <cmn32480> I'll agree with "It fuck'n cold!"
[01:47:03] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Compliance does not equal security | Computerworld
[01:47:10] <takyon> I would believe Intel if they would fucking release their motherfucking GT4 Skylake graphics chips
[01:47:10] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[01:47:15] * SpallsHurgenson hopes one of those links earns him a cookie
[01:47:29] <takyon> *GT4e
[01:47:38] <takyon> includes eDRAM
[01:47:48] * cmn32480 tosses SpallsHurgenson half a cookie for not submitting the links
[01:48:13] * sea dives in slow motion towards the cookie
[01:48:16] <arti> submit the links, to allah.
[01:48:19] * sea screams SEA IS FOR COOKIE
[01:48:24] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, it's not my fault. I'm ~submit-intolerant. I got a note from my doctor and everything
[01:48:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, now i remember what i wanted to fix tomorrow
[01:48:35] <arti> TMB: eugenics?
[01:49:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't wanna be fixed.
[01:49:10] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls' cats?
[01:49:22] <arti> catsballs
[01:49:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, nah, i submitted a pull request a while back that won't install correctly when we go to do the upgrade. meant to fix it but never did.
[01:50:10] <takyon> this Saranac 32oz Pumpkin Ale jug is so convenient
[01:50:17] <arti> oh i see, kudos on 'membering
[01:50:35] <takyon> fix this:
[01:50:35] <takyon> https://github.com
[01:50:36] <arti> sarlacc 320z Pit of Doom Jug
[01:50:36] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Implement user/submissions page · Issue #165 · SoylentNews/rehash · GitHub
[01:50:40] <takyon> I need the vanity
[01:51:02] <arti> sounds like a good name for a linux distro
[01:51:05] <cmn32480> fix the statistics
[01:51:16] <cmn32480> tmb ^^^^
[01:51:22] <takyon> did we file a bug about the statistics?
[01:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw statistics
[01:51:34] <cmn32480> it'll help takyons vanity
[01:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> site functionality > admin perks
[01:51:45] <arti> just do dirty things to his Wii Mi
[01:51:47] <takyon> T needs his T
[01:51:56] <takyon> (Takyon needs his posting Testosterone)
[01:52:05] <arti> is that a new name for karma?
[01:52:09] <arti> T points.
[01:52:12] <takyon> yeah
[01:52:20] <cmn32480> TP?
[01:52:20] <takyon> when you hit 50 karma you ascend to a new realm
[01:52:31] <arti> "Locker Room"
[01:52:50] <cmn32480> when you hit 50 karma you get TP and are allowed to take a dump again
[01:52:52] <arti> with boss Sandusuki
[01:53:01] <takyon> I have karma leaking out of every orifice
[01:53:06] * TheMightyBuzzard is the great cornholio
[01:53:12] <arti> takyon++
[01:53:12] <Bender> karma - takyon: 16
[01:53:15] <takyon> I submit another 10 stories, get another 30 unusable karma
[01:53:16] <arti> filthy, i love it
[01:53:23] * cmn32480 hands TMB TP for his bunghole
[01:53:42] <arti> try condensing the karma into mana, and eqipping those prior to the next battle, er post.
[01:53:59] <takyon> files feature request: implement karma shop
[01:54:27] <takyon> -20 karma to get 5 more mod points
[01:54:32] * cmn32480 files feature request: karma donations to the underprivileged
[01:54:44] * chromas expends 40 karma to upgrade sword
[01:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, we don't do penis extensions here.
[01:55:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> see your physician
[01:55:16] <takyon> you can go in your preferences and give the latest X% of new SoylentNews users extra modifiers. then you can mod those people up
[01:57:17] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:57:18] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Plasma Jet Romania: HVOF thermal spray - YouTube
[01:57:32] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - chomas will need to talk to Ethanol-Fueled
[01:57:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, we ain't had a new site meme in a while
[01:57:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: at least put a socket in it so I can have a trans-bastard sword
[01:58:05] <chromas> or site name. it should change a lot
[01:58:18] <arti> trans-bastard swort
[01:58:20] <arti> d
[01:58:22] <arti> meh
[01:58:32] <arti> dental_fricatives--
[01:58:32] <Bender> karma - dental_fricatives: -1
[01:58:35] <takyon> I don't remember our old memes
[01:58:36] <BadCoderFinger> arti: Your beer level is showing.
[01:58:39] * TheMightyBuzzard chucks chromas a 21mm, 3/8" drive socket
[01:58:40] <takyon> wht ar e you talking about
[01:58:47] <arti> i'm tired and doing too much at once
[01:58:59] <cmn32480> takyon - I heart moose wang
[01:58:59] <takyon> I'm the one who's drinking
[01:59:08] <BadCoderFinger> arti: In that case, it's beer deficiency.
[01:59:16] <takyon> Ethanol-Fueled is a living meme
[01:59:17] * cmn32480 is too lazy to look up the stupid UTF characters
[01:59:18] <arti> a beer or two and i'd crash out
[01:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> 💩
[01:59:34] * exec chucks a nasty sloppy dogshit at aqu4
[01:59:48] <arti> full stomach + beer + slightly tired = heavy eyelids
[01:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'truth
[01:59:59] <BadCoderFinger> TheMightyBuzzard: That's both the coolest and the worst thing I've seen in a long time.
[02:00:03] <arti> almost went to sleep during the sherlock event for the same reason
[02:00:10] <takyon> what sherlock event
[02:00:14] <arti> first 30 minutes was hard after eating pizza until i hated myself
[02:00:14] <cmn32480> crutchy' sfault
[02:00:30] <chromas> no 💩, sherlock
[02:00:30] <takyon> those are 90 minutes long, right? pretty easy to fall asleep
[02:00:34] <arti> uh new episode.
[02:00:45] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[02:00:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> new one tonight?
[02:00:54] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Bytram!
[02:00:56] <arti> was a fanthomevent
[02:00:59] <arti> fathom*
[02:01:03] <cmn32480> 💩exec
[02:01:07] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: bone chewer!
[02:01:08] <takyon> you saw it in a theater?
[02:01:11] <arti> yeah
[02:01:15] <takyon> wowzors
[02:01:22] <arti> picked it up for a date night
[02:01:25] <takyon> I remember seeing that advertised
[02:01:26] <arti> cool crowd.
[02:01:32] <arti> would do it again
[02:01:50] <arti> most movie going crowds are borderline obnoxious, or overtly so
[02:01:59] <arti> this was a quiet, nearly sold out crowd
[02:02:34] <takyon> hmm
[02:02:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, try theaters in the south. too many people will just flat beat your ass for talking through or having your phone on during a movie.
[02:02:47] <arti> best experience i've had in a long time. typically there's someone on their phone or translating dialog, or gorging on stuff
[02:03:12] <arti> i really wish theatres enforced that crap around here
[02:03:30] <takyon> there's only one chain I can remember that enforces anything
[02:03:31] * SpallsHurgenson pulls out his pocket-comp, scans the local datanet then transmits the information packet to the local core system. I love living in the future.
[02:03:36] <takyon> alamo drafthouse I think it's called
[02:03:38] <arti> yes
[02:03:42] <arti> they don't have any around here
[02:03:44] <arti> i'd love that
[02:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't here, people willing to perform wanton violence do.
[02:04:00] <arti> it's just lack of consideration. worst experience recently was a group of kids during creed.
[02:04:10] <BadCoderFinger> There's on in Texas that will throw you out if your phone goes off during the movie.
[02:04:15] <takyon> idk if TN can be extrapolated to the whole south
[02:04:17] <arti> up and down and loud talking.
[02:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, long movie but everyone was quiet when i went to see it.
[02:04:23] <cmn32480> so in general, people are inconsiderate assholes?
[02:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, works in OK as well
[02:04:39] <BadCoderFinger> cmn32480: Yeah, it's called "USA."
[02:04:47] <arti> heh
[02:04:54] <cmn32480> not sure I have a good argument for that
[02:05:04] <sea> cmn32480: That's because there isn't one. It is true.
[02:05:04] <arti> no other assholes exist apparently
[02:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> threat of bodily harm does wonders for people's politeness
[02:05:12] <arti> look at Iraq!
[02:05:13] <takyon> tfw you almost break your laptop with your beer glass
[02:05:18] <BadCoderFinger> And I was born in the USA, so naturally I'm an asshole. At least I'm considerate, though.
[02:05:29] <arti> takyon, put coal in your pants so you can clench out diamonds
[02:05:35] <cmn32480> BBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:05:52] <sea> Someone's invoking Bruce Almighty..
[02:06:00] <cmn32480> "an armed society is a polite society"
[02:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> no bruce. season's over. gotta wait until next year for more Ash vs Evil Dead
[02:06:12] <cmn32480> Springsteen!
[02:06:22] <cmn32480> He was Born in the USA.
[02:06:28] <SpallsHurgenson> an unarmed society is a society that has problems pulling up their trousers
[02:06:32] * takyon slow claps
[02:07:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I still can't decide if I really loved or really hated Ash vs Evil Dead
[02:07:23] <arti> shop smart
[02:07:25] <cmn32480> it was Bruce Campbell... what wasn't to love?
[02:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it was exactly what you'd expect from sam rami and bruce campbell
[02:07:51] <cmn32480> an obvious attempt to not take themselves seriously?
[02:07:54] <SpallsHurgenson> but I still maintain that the show would have been ever so much better with a 1-hour runtime instead of 30 minutes
[02:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was quite possibly the best first season of any show i've ever seen.
[02:08:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> barring firefly
[02:08:14] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:08:14] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Investor to ATT – give us a peek at your NSA data dealings • The Register
[02:08:16] <SpallsHurgenson> b-b-b-but... Firefly!
[02:08:21] <SpallsHurgenson> ninjad :(
[02:08:29] <takyon> Firefly doesn't count because it was only 1 season
[02:08:42] <takyon> first season was also the WORST SEASON
[02:08:55] <arti> heh
[02:08:56] <takyon> ahahahahahhahah
[02:09:03] <cmn32480> logic++
[02:09:03] <Bender> karma - logic: 2
[02:09:20] <chromas> which is the fastest sorting algorithm for a list of one?
[02:09:21] <arti> with a mighty two, logic!
[02:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but i mean most shows suuuuck the first season cause the actors all gotta learn their roles. bruce went in nailing that shit.
[02:09:31] <arti> chromas: feminism
[02:09:46] <SpallsHurgenson> thats because evil dead, evil dead 1 and army of darkness were season 0 :)
[02:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, printf
[02:09:54] <takyon> I just rewatched Buffy the vampire slayer first season. I forgot how good it was
[02:10:08] * chromas prefers to print wtihout formatting
[02:10:14] <arti> did you get a trampstamp tattoo?
[02:10:17] <chromas> [and spellchecking]
[02:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they still didn't know their roles like they did in say season 4
[02:10:20] <arti> like Buffy Forever
[02:10:27] <takyon> no
[02:10:43] <arti> consider it on your belly, it's the best place for a tattoo
[02:10:47] <cmn32480> and SMG was hot through the whole ting
[02:10:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> xander though, he was good from the start.
[02:11:10] <cmn32480> didn't he just get arrested?
[02:11:10] <sea> Willow is hot.
[02:11:13] <sea> Evil willow is hot.
[02:11:16] <cmn32480> amen to that sea
[02:11:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, just got out of rehab though
[02:11:23] <arti> when you become weak and your food intake increases, if your choice was a face it'll look like kuato
[02:11:25] <takyon> dang
[02:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> sea++
[02:11:28] <Bender> karma - sea: 2
[02:11:35] <takyon> ocean++
[02:11:35] <Bender> karma - ocean: 1
[02:11:37] <sea> Wewt. I have 2 points
[02:11:40] <cmn32480> http://dlisted.com
[02:11:41] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Dlisted | Xander From Buffy Got Arrested Again
[02:11:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> vamp willow or evil witchy willow either
[02:11:53] <arti> the points can be redeemed for beatings/coffee beans
[02:11:53] <cmn32480> from October
[02:12:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, looks like he's already done his court ordered rehab then
[02:12:17] <sea> sweeeeet
[02:12:21] <takyon> he's not aged well
[02:12:25] <arti> i'm thinking warwick davis
[02:12:34] <arti> + wig
[02:12:37] <sea> So..how do I request a beating? Do I get to pick who does it?
[02:12:41] <SpallsHurgenson> nyub nyub
[02:12:57] <cmn32480> on google images.. he has like 5 different mug shots
[02:13:12] <arti> david bowie's mugshot was pretty good
[02:13:23] <takyon> could make a portfolio out of his mugshots
[02:13:30] <takyon> or whatever those things actors use are called
[02:13:45] <BadCoderFinger> sea: SpallsHurgenson handles all the beatings. You'll want to close your eyes due to the pantlessness.
[02:13:49] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:13:51] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03No escape: Microsoft injects 'Get Windows 10' nagware into biz PCs • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:13:52] <arti> takyon: sex tapes
[02:14:08] <takyon> heh
[02:14:09] <Bytram> GravyCheeseFries: thanks for the dereferencing
[02:14:17] <sea> SpallsHurgenson: Okay, I'd like to request you beat takyon, please.
[02:14:22] * sea hands over 2 points.
[02:14:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake takyon
[02:14:29] * MrPlow smakes takyon upside the head with Santa's big, fat sack
[02:14:31] <takyon> beat me, I'll enjoy it
[02:14:37] <takyon> yeah gimme da sack
[02:14:56] * arti shakes head
[02:15:20] * SpallsHurgenson crushes takyon like a bug
[02:15:24] <takyon> I think my BAC has surpassed IRC's legal limits
[02:15:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd a waffle iron
[02:15:26] <MrPlow> added: a waffle iron
[02:15:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, you've a ways to go before you pass EF's record though
[02:16:10] <takyon> record on IRC or real life
[02:16:11] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, my inner ear is itching. somebody get me a fondue fork!
[02:16:18] <arti> pfft, EF has you beat
[02:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> just on irc will do
[02:16:35] <takyon> if you want me to black out on IRC, I will do it
[02:16:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> no need to give yourself alcohol poisoning
[02:17:01] <takyon> nah I think I will though
[02:17:03] <arti> black out, popular hashtag from the 1960s
[02:17:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, kids home. boredom defeated.
[02:17:45] * arti resists
[02:17:54] <BadCoderFinger> Kids? Add candy and wiffle bats. Endless entertainment!
[02:18:15] <arti> kids, protohumans.
[02:18:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of em's proper adhd. worse than me when i was his age.
[02:18:30] <arti> nice, just run it out of 'em
[02:18:44] * arti prepares some more coffee icecream
[02:18:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> this idea has merit and has been used
[02:18:49] <takyon> force them to meditate
[02:18:50] <arti> i'll have the snacks done soon
[02:18:57] <arti> lol
[02:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> boy, go run around the front yard twenty times. (half acre of front yard)
[02:19:17] <arti> quiet and still, like the cat is when they're home
[02:19:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, he has to do that before he gets to play minecraft
[02:19:48] <SpallsHurgenson> kitteh?
[02:19:53] <chromas> I gave kids some candy once. Now I have to wear an electronic anklet
[02:20:10] <arti> you should play some oingo boingo next time
[02:20:14] <sea> Heh, I got away with locking a kid in the cupboard for a day.
[02:20:22] <sea> I fed him through a slot.
[02:20:23] <arti> was it a midget?
[02:20:31] <sea> It was my cousin.
[02:20:34] <SpallsHurgenson> kid-friendly, mother-approved
[02:20:42] <arti> you can make coming out of the cupboard jokes now
[02:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube dead man's party
[02:20:44] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:21:02] <arti> where be the title
[02:21:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[02:21:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> title bots ain't my prollem
[02:21:26] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes chromas
[02:21:34] <cmn32480> ~title on
[02:21:34] * arti eyes TMB eying chromas
[02:21:35] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[02:21:36] <GravyCheeseFries> no titles for bot output
[02:21:41] <arti> http://lemonparty.com
[02:21:42] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03lemonparty.com ( http://ww12.lemonparty.com )
[02:21:43] <exec> └─ 13lemonparty.com - lemonparty Resources and Information. [04lemonparty.com - lemonparty Resources and Information.]
[02:21:45] <exec> └─ 13lemonparty.com
[02:21:49] <arti> maximum titles
[02:22:04] <takyon> like hell i'm gonna click that
[02:22:06] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[02:22:08] <exec> └─ 13Oingo Boingo - It's a Dead Man's Party - YouTube
[02:22:08] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Oingo Boingo - It's a Dead Man's Party - YouTube
[02:22:09] <takyon> ... less than once
[02:22:29] <cmn32480> ~title off
[02:22:31] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[02:22:35] <BadCoderFinger> Ugh, gnome-terminal inhales bovine reproductive organs. Copy and paste with the X buffer doesn't work, and the Alt key is ignored. Why are there still gnome devs?
[02:22:48] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[02:22:55] * GravyCheeseFries suggests meatspin.com
[02:23:41] <chromas> BadCoderFinger: why don't you like their sensible defaults? why do you hate humanity?
[02:24:13] <arti> sensible defaults, according to whom
[02:24:21] <chromas> gnome devs
[02:24:24] <arti> nazis
[02:24:31] <takyon> I'm going to make my CES submission tomorrow
[02:24:35] * arti sets mode +herrenvolk
[02:24:45] <arti> takyon, what about?
[02:24:49] <takyon> I'm not really sure when it ended, but I know I don't care about another motherboard or keyboard news item
[02:24:53] <takyon> hang on arti
[02:25:24] <chromas> arti: gnazis
[02:25:30] * arti claps
[02:25:39] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org the five things at the bottom of this article, and maybe a couple more things
[02:25:40] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03SN journal CES 2016 Dumping Ground 04(0 comments)
[02:25:50] <takyon> *journal
[02:25:51] <arti> codenan approves
[02:26:18] <arti> i completely failed context
[02:28:11] * SpallsHurgenson slouches back into the comfy chair and tries not to fall asleep... but chair so commmmfffyyyy...
[02:28:57] <sea> Whoa
[02:29:07] <sea> Why would you link lemonparty here!? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
[02:29:47] <arti> just testing stuff
[02:29:54] <chromas> you don't like lemons?
[02:30:00] <arti> nah, he hates parties
[02:30:11] <sea> I hate all parties. If you have a party, I will drop a nuke on it.
[02:30:28] * sea threatens nuclear annihilation.
[02:30:35] <arti> okay ronnie
[02:30:38] <BadCoderFinger> chromas: First I'll need any evidence that the nonsense offered by gnome has any alignment with humanity...
[02:30:48] <arti> proof that they're aliens
[02:30:55] * SpallsHurgenson one-ups sea and threatens disco
[02:31:15] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[02:31:37] <sea> LOL, this movie, though
[02:31:51] <BadCoderFinger> "Have you stopped beating the gnome devs?" "No, because 1) I haven't met any yet, and 2) I'm not tired."
[02:32:10] <sea> A guy gets a report card that has all F's on it, and a bright red all-caps "DUMBASS" stamped on it. The girl comes along and points at the A in DUMBASS, and says: "At least you got one A!", and he's like "Yeah, I did!"
[02:33:00] <chromas> "dumbass"
[02:33:03] <chromas> red_foreman++
[02:33:03] <Bender> karma - red_foreman: 1
[02:33:25] * Bytram once had a comp sci prof who graded in Hexadecimal; score on an exam went from 0 to F
[02:33:35] <arti> clarence+boddicker++
[02:33:39] <arti> clarence_boddicker++
[02:33:39] <Bender> karma - clarence_boddicker: 1
[02:34:10] <BadCoderFinger> Bytram: Did you score many 10s?
[02:34:48] <Bytram> Only grades were from the set: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
[02:34:51] <chromas> that would be an overflow and he'd get a 0
[02:34:53] <Bytram> no '10' in that
[02:35:03] <BadCoderFinger> to clarify: 10d
[02:35:08] <Bytram> he also offered a chance for extra credit...
[02:35:16] <sea> Ooh I love extra credit stuff!
[02:35:39] * sea was really, really good at getting extra credit
[02:35:54] -!- SpallsHurgenson has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
[02:36:07] <Bytram> 10 questions on an exam; true / false; if you were absolutely certain you knew all the answers, you could choose all of the wrong answers, and he'd give you a score of 150 instead of 100...
[02:36:12] <arti> you get extra credit for working on the SN codebase
[02:36:13] <BadCoderFinger> Extra credit killed Spalls!
[02:36:19] <arti> at least 30 karma.
[02:36:36] <Bytram> but, if you were incorrect in your assessment, and actually got one of those questions right... your score was only 10.
[02:36:54] * Bytram never tried taking him up on that one!
[02:37:19] <arti> hmm, this might be a good resource to do some programming trivia
[02:37:34] * arti files this away in his todo pile
[02:38:10] <sea> lol ten true/false questions? haha. Pathetic. My exam had only a single question on it: "Classify all possible behaviors of the iterated function ..."
[02:38:25] <sea> You either got it right, and passed, or you got it wrong, and failed.
[02:38:34] <arti> just one question then.
[02:39:06] <arti> 1) Do you think you're smarter than a bullet?
[02:39:09] <sea> We also had one month to answer the question and we could use whatever means we could think of to solve it.
[02:39:13] * arti needs to watch that movie again
[02:39:26] <sea> Collaboration was encouraged.
[02:39:30] <arti> ugh
[02:39:37] <arti> collaboration in college sucked
[02:39:53] <arti> daria_volleyball.gif
[02:40:43] <BadCoderFinger> Collaboration in college == One fails, we all fail!
[02:41:03] <arti> means someone is always doing more
[02:41:20] <sea> No this is optional collaboration. The professor literally sent us home with the questions and said: "It's a free for all. Do what you want. If you bring back the right answer, you pass, otherwise, you fail."
[02:41:35] <Bytram> that is NASTY!
[02:41:40] <Bytram> sea: how'd you fare?
[02:42:26] <arti> answer: oppression olympics
[02:42:33] <sea> I passed, but when I worked on the question, it turned out to be so horrifically difficult that it took me most of that month to actually solve it. I actually had to go to the library and learn another branch of maths just to find a method of attack that would work
[02:42:55] <Bytram> impressive!
[02:43:02] <Bytram> were thelectures of any help?
[02:43:40] <sea> No. We asked for help lots of times but all he did was smile and say: "What, the whole internet and library at your disposal and you STILL want can't do it without help? You call yourselves smart?"
[02:43:52] <sea> or something to that effect
[02:43:57] <sea> No hints, nothing.
[02:44:01] <sea> Figure it out yourselves or fail.
[02:44:05] <chromas> that's why they're professors instead of teachers
[02:44:27] <Bytram> so, he starts the first class with the problem, and that's all he did?
[02:45:03] <sea> There was a twist, btw. Once someone got the solution other students could copy it. When it finally came time to hand in the answers, he conducted an interview with each student and asked them to explain the solution to him.
[02:45:15] <sea> If you didn't understand it yourself, you failed.
[02:46:06] <sea> There was a student riot after that and that particular professor couldn't teach first year math classes anymore, but since he /is/, in fact, the best math professor of all, he's still allowed to teach 2nd year and above maths courses because he's just so damn good.
[02:46:38] <Bytram> so were there any lectures or anything?
[02:46:44] <sea> Of course there were lectures.
[02:47:08] <Bytram> so, he DID cover the material, but just wouldn't answer 'The Question' or give any hints?
[02:47:08] <sea> This was something that was given to us very early in the course, and we were made well aware that we had a full month to solve it on our own time. The lectures went on as normal in the meantime.
[02:47:15] <sea> Bytram: No, the material was NOT covered.
[02:47:37] <sea> Bytram: It was totally new stuff. His reasoning is that as university students, we need to learn how to figure things out that /weren't handed to us on a silver platter/.
[02:48:03] <Bytram> oh, I understand that, but HIS job is to help impart that knowledge, right?
[02:48:37] <Bytram> well, on a positive note, it does seem like he wanted you to learn the material instead of just memorize it to 'get a grade'
[02:48:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The 'Hidden' Cost of Using ZFS for Your Home NAS - http://sylnt.us - just-use-jbod
[02:48:43] <sea> He explained how it was done once we were done.
[02:49:03] <Bytram> kind of 'Port Mortem', then
[02:49:19] <chromas> what was the student riot about?
[02:49:27] <sea> "His courses are too hard"
[02:49:33] <sea> "His pass rate is too low"
[02:49:38] <sea> (Pass rate: 8%)
[02:49:41] <chromas> "it's not your job to teach us! your job is to provide a safe space!"
[02:49:43] <Bytram> they handed in the right answer because they just copied other's papers (allowed) but didn't understand it.
[02:49:45] <sea> Or 13%, about that area.
[02:50:25] <Bytram> I wonder how much of it you still remember?
[02:50:47] <sea> lol, I think I remember almost all of it.
[02:51:55] <Bytram> mission accomplished, then. Still think that was a pretty nasty way of going about it, though.
[02:52:48] <sea> Well, there are other lecturers teaching the same maths courses so if you didn't trust yourself to pass his course, you just waited until another one came around and did theirs instead.
[02:52:50] <arti> safe spaces brand ovens
[02:53:06] <sea> We also had this philosophy professor that was very similar.
[02:54:07] <sea> He basically didn't care at all whether you cheated or not on any test. The final exam was a little slip of paper with 3 difficult philosophical questions, we were to answer any 2 of them. Every student got a different 3 questions.
[02:54:41] <Bytram> one of my comp sci courses used a pascal compiler that the prof had translated to work on our OS... it had bugs and the compiler would sometimes *crash* on valid syntax. Would have to rework the code to get around the compiler bugs, all the while trying to learn the language.
[02:54:41] <sea> It was worth 100% of the grade.
[02:55:18] <arti> nice
[02:55:25] <arti> one does not simply code pascal.
[02:55:35] <Bytram> and what was his philosophy of doing that?
[02:55:43] <arti> if you copy paste code it would break.
[02:55:47] <arti> you had to do it his way or fail
[02:56:16] <chromas> Did you get to modify the compiler source to fix it?
[02:56:43] <Bytram> one of the exercises was to construct a doubly-linked circular list, each of whose nodes was, in itself a doubly-linked circular list.
[02:56:45] <chromas> that was the secret to winning the class
[02:56:47] <Bytram> chromas: nope.
[02:57:07] <chromas> a magic roundabout buffer?
[02:57:52] <Bytram> oh, and one had to be able to insert / delete entries into either the inner or outer loops, and handle creation of new lists, and deletion of last entry in a node list, too.
[02:58:00] <Bytram> chromas: pretty much.
[03:03:55] <sea> Bytram: You could have done that much more easily by mapping a large 2-dimensional rectangle into 1 dimension, and just using a single list instead of all that complicated mess.
[03:04:00] <takyon> kbkbkbj
[03:04:14] <sea> Bytram: You'd have finished the code in 5 minutes flat.
[03:04:58] * Bytram can't type quite that fast, and the whole point of the exercise was to demonstrate that one understood doubly-linked circular lists
[03:05:26] <Bytram> this was a senior level dara structures class that I took as a freshman
[03:05:30] <Bytram> s/dara/data/
[03:05:31] <sedctl> <Bytram> this was a senior level data structures class that I took as a freshman
[03:05:52] <Bytram> umm, correction, first semester sophomore
[03:06:08] <sea> OH MY GOD
[03:06:12] <sea> I ran out of lemonade
[03:06:14] <sea> FUCK
[03:06:29] <sea> My life is over
[03:06:52] <Bytram> when life takes away your lemonade, go find some lemons. or soemthing like that
[03:07:22] <Bytram> maybe you could substitute melons for the lemons; they ARE spelled similarly
[03:07:29] <cmn32480> when life gives you lemons
[03:07:35] <cmn32480> find a friend with vodka
[03:07:39] <Bytram> respell it as solemn
[03:07:39] <cmn32480> and have a party
[03:08:04] <SirFinkus> aw damn, somebody has already registered prolefeed.org
[03:10:14] <takyon> rly
[03:10:56] <Bytram> looks to just be parked, atm. I accidentally clicked on it and it got launched in my browser.
[03:11:07] <Bytram> http://prolefeed.org
[03:11:08] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Find the best domain names to register
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[03:11:53] <chromas> from the parked dept
[03:17:31] * Bytram just realized the super duper lottery thingee was tonight -- wonder when they will announce if there was a winner (or have they done so already)
[03:17:55] <sea> The money will vanish into that person's bank account, and will never emerge ever again.
[03:18:17] <Bytram> http://www.powerball.com
[03:18:18] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Powerball - Home
[03:18:19] <sea> It won't ever go to a charity. It won't ever be invested unless the bank does it for them, and so on, and so on. It'll be completely and utterly wasted.
[03:18:48] <Bytram> Current Estimated Jackpot: $1.5 Billion; $930 million Cash Value
[03:18:55] <chromas> The great thing about money is it can be wasted over and over again
[03:19:51] <Bytram> afk, break
[03:27:09] <cmn32480> the government is proof of that
[03:30:09] <takyon> if there's no winner tonight I might pay the poor tax for sunday's
[03:30:27] <takyon> that's all lottery is, a tax on the poor
[03:32:39] <Bytram> does anyone recall what the prior estimated jackpot was?
[03:32:59] <cmn32480> 1.5Billion if you take the annuity
[03:33:16] <cmn32480> or do you mean from Wednesday?
[03:33:17] <Bytram> that's the CURRENT estimated jackpot, I was wondering about the *PRIOR* one
[03:33:31] <cmn32480> 850-900million
[03:33:36] <cmn32480> a pittance
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[03:34:08] <Bytram> so, if there is no winner in this drawing, that suggests the new estimated jackpot would be about $2billion?!!?
[03:34:56] <Bytram> http://etymonline.com
[03:34:57] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Online Etymology Dictionary
[03:35:36] <takyon> yeah
[03:35:39] <takyon> probably
[03:37:57] <Bytram> so, if the winner buys the ticket in a state that collects income tax, there's a good chance the state stands to gain pretty nicely, too. Say, 5% income tax, on $930 million (current jackpot's actual cash value) suggests nearly $50 million being added to the states coffers.
[03:39:37] <chromas> The lottery's great
[03:39:53] <chromas> "A portion of lottery profit goes to help schools and stuff"
[03:39:54] <sea> Am I allowed to buy a ticket even if I don't live in the USA?
[03:40:00] <sea> Can I send money to someone to buy a ticket for me?
[03:40:06] <chromas> "Don't get addicted to the lottery"
[03:40:12] <chromas> ads next to each other on tv
[03:40:32] <chromas> sea: sure, just send me $25
[03:40:42] <Bytram> or, from another perspective: if you can reasonably do so and a non-income-tax state is nearby, it might be worth a drive...
[03:41:04] <chromas> Bytram: but they'll get you on the sales tax :D
[03:41:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> TN is a non-income-tax state =P
[03:41:20] <sea> chromas: Christ, a ticket costs $25?!?
[03:41:20] <takyon> yeah there was a story about chinese nationals buying Powerball tickets for tonight
[03:41:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna check tomorrow to see if i ever gotta work again. sn coding aside.
[03:41:44] <takyon> they bought them through a dealer, paid about $4 per ticket, and the dealer gets 10% of the winnings
[03:41:48] <chromas> sea: shipping & 'handling'
[03:41:48] * Bytram thinks where's no sales tax on lottery tickets (at least that he knows of)
[03:41:51] <takyon> a few hundred tickets were sold
[03:42:20] <Bytram> wouldn't the 'dealer' have to register with the state or something like that?
[03:43:17] <takyon> let me just find the damn articel
[03:43:22] <takyon> you
[03:44:02] <takyon> http://www.nbcnews.com
[03:44:03] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Powerball Craze Hits China (But There's a Catch) - NBC News
[03:44:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing wrong with the lottery being a tax on the poor because, and this is important, it's a *voluntary* tax. you know, unlike every other tax.
[03:44:34] <Bytram> okay, it's been a long day and I really need to get some shut eye.
[03:44:44] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[03:44:57] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: good luck on the drawing!
[03:45:28] * Bytram|away figures it might not end up being such good luck for any fish in the vacinity
[03:45:36] <Bytram|away> ;)
[03:45:44] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytram|away
[03:45:46] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
[03:45:46] * exec allegedly passes a wine flute of coffee++ to Bytram|away
[03:45:46] <sea> Hey, don't threaten fish!
[03:45:54] * sea protects the beloved fish.
[03:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> too cold this week to bank fish and my trailer hitch doesn't come in till next week.
[03:46:14] <Bytram|away> *I* am not threatening them; I just have a very strong idea of what TMB would be doing, if he won the lottery.
[03:46:16] <cmn32480> the buzzard eats your beloved fish
[03:46:30] * TheMightyBuzzard om nom noms
[03:47:03] * TheMightyBuzzard loves the fishes because they're so delicious
[03:47:05] <Bytram|away> lol
[03:47:43] <Bytram|away> laters
[03:47:57] <takyon> it's not unvoluntary because the poor have been made stupid by chronic malnutrition
[03:48:01] <takyon> it's the system, man
[03:48:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the poor were stupid to begin with. that's why they're poor.
[03:49:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean if you got the choice between being poor and not poor and you pick poor, you're pretty damned thick.
[03:49:09] * sea is a poor mathematician.
[03:49:34] <takyon> poor people have lower IQs because of malnutrition and bad parenting
[03:49:48] <takyon> the poverty perpetuates poverty on average
[03:50:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't need iq, need craftiness; wisdom.
[03:50:15] <sea> I challenge that. I think it's the other way around, seriously.
[03:50:33] <sea> I think that poverty makes you smarter, on average.
[03:51:26] <sea> My argument is that people who are poor see education as their way out, and they /value it/. People who have money often spend all of their time playing videogames and in mindless entertainment. People who are poor have to resort to the old fashioned kinds: Books, and studying to get that scholarship which they need so severely.
[03:51:42] <takyon> that's a bunch of crap
[03:51:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> the thing is, rich people know how to be rich. they can impart this information to their children. poor people, by definition, do not know how to be rich and so cannot impart this wisdom. their children have to puzzle it out for themselves.
[03:52:03] <takyon> poor people are likely to have bad upbringing, bad environment, bad peers, bad nutrition
[03:52:15] <takyon> and it doesn't improve
[03:52:25] <sea> It's the truth, however. Poor people don't play the videogames they don't have, and they don't watch the TV they can't afford. They don't waste their time away on the internet they don't have access to, but they do enjoy the countless books that they can get for free second-hand.
[03:52:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> sea, the average poverty-level household has two televisions in the US.
[03:53:02] <sea> Yes, but the USA is a world hotspot for low IQ.
[03:53:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we get by just fine on that.
[03:53:22] <sea> The USA isn't included in this situation because nothing works normally there. Everywhere else, this poverty-makes-you-smarter situation seems to happen exactly as I've said it.
[03:53:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> necessity is the mother of invention?
[03:54:19] <takyon> we USians are god's chosen people so why wouldn't we talk about the situation in USA
[03:55:03] <sea> Basically, rich people don't /need/ to learn crap or use their brains, and their pastimes are mindless, the kind that money buys. In contrast, poor people /need/ to learn and obtain scholarships, and need to learn to get good jobs. Likewise, their time isn't wasted as much on the mindless entertainment they can't afford.
[03:55:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> god schmod. we're shatner's chosen people. he's canadian and lives here instead because awesome calls to awesome.
[03:55:28] <sea> So the causes are obvious.
[03:55:42] <takyon> that's a naive as shit theory sea
[03:55:58] <takyon> sure, poor people might be a little hardier from poverty, but money gives you incredible advantages
[03:56:00] <takyon> from birth
[03:56:16] <sea> and yet, takyon, the top students at my university are all poor. They got there by scholarship. The rich students, on the other hand, all dropped out.
[03:56:19] <takyon> because if you fuck up the nutrition and education from 0-10 years of age, that has a lifelong effect
[03:56:29] <takyon> COOL ANECDATA BRO
[03:56:40] <sea> takyon: That has been the case for over a decade.
[03:57:27] <takyon> and if our metric is that rich people stay rich and poor people stay poor, remember that capital gains tax is very low
[03:57:40] <takyon> so wealth perpetuates easily even if the people involved are stupid
[03:57:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, pay it and then say that
[03:58:01] <takyon> it's less than income tax
[03:58:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well hell yes it is
[03:58:29] <arti> just keep taxing it
[03:58:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> it damned well better be since you're having to pay tax on the money twice.
[03:58:34] <arti> totally haven't paid taxes on it
[03:59:50] <arti> powerball time
[03:59:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll check tomorrow
[04:00:17] <sea> Time for bed.
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[04:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com
[04:00:41] <takyon> see y'all later
[04:00:42] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Harvard prof. takes down gender wage gap myth | Washington Examiner
[04:01:06] <takyon> what is it, birth leave
[04:01:12] <takyon> maternity leave
[04:01:19] <cmn32480> yes
[04:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, i'll read it tomorrow
[04:01:29] <takyon> /reading
[04:01:39] <takyon> >>>>>>
[04:01:43] <takyon> i'm gone
[04:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i expect it's mostly due to women not putting their job first
[04:05:22] <cmn32480> imagine that.. powerballs website is DOA
[04:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, slashdotted themselves
[04:06:08] <arti> just saw this on powerball
[04:06:09] <arti> https://twitter.com
[04:06:10] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Ben (@BenAskel) | Twitter
[04:06:11] <arti> twitter
[04:06:24] <arti> 08-27-34-04-19. Powerball is 1
[04:06:26] <arti> 0
[04:06:33] <arti> https://twitter.com
[04:06:34] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03ABC News on Twitter: "JUST IN: The winning #Powerball numbers are 08-27-34-04-19. Powerball is 10: https://t.co https://t.co"
[04:06:44] <cmn32480> head of the list o sites a i generally refuse to vist
[04:06:53] <arti> it turned up in the google results
[04:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i wasn't gonna check till tomorrow. guess i'm still po
[04:06:59] <arti> their sites hosed and so is youtube
[04:07:33] <cmn32480> me too buzzard
[04:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, fishin's cheap.
[04:08:20] <chromas> youtube works for me
[04:09:43] <cmn32480> and with that.. I am off to bed.
[04:09:49] <cmn32480> ~gnight #soylent
[04:09:51] * exec accidentally poops a spoon of red cordial for #soylent
[04:09:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> bedtime. see you lot a couple hours before sunup
[04:14:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube chris janson buy me a boat
[04:14:58] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
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[04:15:45] <Cmn32480_phone> And we have a puking kid!
[04:15:52] <Cmn32480_phone> Damnit
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[04:34:39] <Deucalion> As long as its head doesn't spin around while puking you'll probably be ok :P
[04:47:13] <Alberto> TheMightyButtzzard, i missed you a lot
[04:47:47] <Alberto> :>
[04:53:46] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:54:14] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[04:55:04] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:55:10] <Deucalion> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:55:29] <Deucalion> hmm... is it rate limited?
[04:55:30] <takyon> lol
[04:55:32] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:55:37] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:55:39] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:56:07] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:56:11] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:56:15] <Deucalion> :(
[04:56:26] <takyon> this is soem shit
[04:56:38] <takyon> too lazy to submit normally
[04:56:39] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[04:56:45] <takyon> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:57:13] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission
[04:57:18] <chromas> #submit soylentnews.org
[04:57:18] <MrPlow> Syntax: #submit someurl
[04:57:28] <chromas> #submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:57:29] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[04:58:00] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[04:58:09] <takyon> #submit http://www.npr.org
[04:58:10] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[04:58:29] <Deucalion> so many bots, so much overlap :D
[04:58:41] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[05:00:07] <Deucalion> I note some long serving journos from ElReg (e.g. Kelly Fiveash) have jumped ship to Ars..
[05:01:49] <takyon> hmm
[05:02:44] <takyon> #submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[05:02:45] <MrPlow> Submitting. Be patient, there's a mandatory delay
[05:03:15] <MrPlow> Story submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[05:03:20] <takyon> the first paragraph of this article blew my mind
[05:03:33] <takyon> unbelievable
[05:04:40] <Deucalion> Guy kept wibbling on about PRISM when it would be more relevant to wibble on about TEMPORA.... ~shrug~ it's a whitewash... the bill will be passed regardless.
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[09:08:17] <chromas> Shell out the dollaz to upgrade
[09:54:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Groups and Experts Urge Governments to Avoid Crypto Backdoors; France may Require them - http://sylnt.us - just-use-the-doorbell
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[11:25:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - National Academy of Medicine Commission: Future Pandemics Could Kill Millions, Cost Trillions - http://sylnt.us - give-it-a-'shot'
[11:29:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:29:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2078
[11:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> scheduled personal downtime. time to redo the thermal grease on my cpu. getting too much heat to encode video with all six cores at once.
[12:27:54] <cmn32480> coffee++ #once it is done brewing
[12:27:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2079
[12:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> rock, much happier cpu temps under load
[12:28:21] <cmn32480> excellent
[12:28:30] <cmn32480> get fixin' shit!
[12:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> arcticsilver5++
[12:28:32] <Bender> karma - arcticsilver5: 1
[12:29:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing a burn-in right now to get the gook all seated well.
[12:29:17] <cmn32480> amen. that is a lesson I learned years ago
[12:29:31] <cmn32480> six cores worth of porn?
[12:29:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, reencoding some 1080p video to /dev/null
[12:29:55] <nick> howdy, tmb and cmn
[12:30:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> happy lunchtime, nick
[12:30:11] <cmn32480> mornign nick
[12:31:22] <nick> sausage roll for lunch
[12:31:32] <nick> glad the morning is over
[12:32:40] <cmn32480> so, if I read that right, nick likes the sausage?
[12:33:39] <nick> i might like a sausage, but that doesn't mean i like the sausage
[12:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab nick
[12:33:46] <Bender> Added quote 648
[12:34:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> for posterity's sake
[12:34:24] <nick> heh
[12:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk
[12:34:48] <cmn32480> lol
[12:35:07] * cmn32480 with the pass to TheMightyBuzzard.... and SCORE!
[12:35:33] <nick> how goes the morning for cmn32480 ?
[12:35:42] <cmn32480> it's ok... I had a half a kielbasa on a fork the other day, walked into one of my technicians offices and took a huge bite.
[12:35:51] <cmn32480> he go vapor lock
[12:35:59] <cmn32480> no0 coffee yet
[12:36:16] <cmn32480> 3 potential software vendors
[12:36:43] <cmn32480> onyl one of which is willing to do a webex so that I can actaully SEE the software, yet they all want me to part with my money
[12:36:48] <nick> your company shopping for new software?
[12:37:06] <cmn32480> I'm looking for somethign for our access controls system
[12:37:41] <cmn32480> I have 9 HID Edge Solo readers that are managed individually, and I'm looking for a package that will allow me to manage them from a central console
[12:39:18] <nick> i've only used kantech for anything of that size, but that's not saying it's a good offering
[12:39:29] <nick> it has done everything necessary
[12:40:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! take that cornhole!
[12:40:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mangohabanerohotwings++
[12:40:03] <Bender> karma - mangohabanerohotwings: 1
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[12:40:34] <cmn32480> all i need to do is be abel to have accurate time based controls and get some reports out of it for who opened what door when. nothing complex
[12:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, write a 30 line perl script to do it for you.
[12:41:35] <nick> when you say nothing complex, you deserve that as a suggestion
[12:41:49] <cmn32480> if management needs to get into it, it has to have a GUI.
[12:42:14] <cmn32480> they look at me funny when I tell them to do stuff from the command line.
[12:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> management never needs to be actually managing anything. have it output to a webpage.
[12:42:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hell, if HID has their API documented, a Perl script isn't a bad idea
[12:42:48] <cmn32480> I'm not sure that HID has their API's documented and available to the public
[12:43:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean you don't see us letting mrcoolbp or Deucalion run around doing stuff to servers, do ya?
[12:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> they answer emails and make decisions, as is their lot in life.
[12:43:56] <cmn32480> hahaha
[12:44:02] <cmn32480> mine as well
[12:45:04] <cmn32480> it is a case of time is money. one of the packages that I'm looking at has what looks to be an idiot resistant GUI, does what I need (and a little more) and is <$1000
[12:45:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> NOOOOOOO! Alan Rickman died!
[12:45:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> By Grabthar's hammer, he shall be avenged!
[12:46:25] <cmn32480> nooooooo
[12:46:39] <cmn32480> Christmas just won't be the same without watching him fall off Nakatomi Tower!
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[12:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but he was badass in everything he ever played in.
[12:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are very few actors i can watch and say "damn, he's good" about
[12:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> he was hands down the best of the few too
[12:50:12] <cmn32480> he was very good at his craft
[12:51:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> he was the only actually good acting in any of the harry potter movies plus played an epic sherrif of nottingham
[12:52:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh. this sucks almost as bad as Nimoy dying.
[12:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll go have a smoke and bitch some more.
[12:54:01] <CoolHand> galaxy quest...
[12:56:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deep Neural Networks Trained on Images Help Decide Who is Hot - http://sylnt.us - in-the-eyes-of-the-beholder
[13:12:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> no billion dollars. no more hans gruber. this is going to be a suck day even if we are firing up the smoker after the roomie drops the kids off at school.
[13:15:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima say screw productivity today and play fallout 4 on the pc.
[13:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nudemods++
[13:15:12] <Bender> karma - nudemods: 1
[13:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, gonna let the thermal compound burn in for another hour or two.
[13:22:45] <cmn32480> Hermione was kida good in the alter HP movies
[13:22:59] <cmn32480> I mean if she'd kept her mouth shut
[13:23:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[13:23:41] <cmn32480> she certainly went from awkward to hot over the course of the franchise
[13:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plus she's legal now and you can find beaver shots
[13:24:46] <cmn32480> BONUS!
[13:24:58] <cmn32480> I had no idea she had a big flat tail
[13:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube baby got back
[13:25:15] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:25:37] * cmn32480 thinks he might regret clicking the link
[13:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if you hate sir mix-a-lot
[13:26:27] <cmn32480> and it's youtube so it can't be THAT bad
[13:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, butt rocket aside
[13:27:11] <cmn32480> true
[13:39:40] <cmn32480> <sigh> I hate watching vendors to make sure they don't try anythign hinky
[13:40:08] <cmn32480> at least it is a VM that will get trashed as soon as my testing is done.
[13:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, s'why i preferred working on one instead of directly on dev
[13:41:29] <cmn32480> this guy just downloaded a .net fromework from FileHippo
[13:41:52] <cmn32480> WTF???
[13:43:27] <cmn32480> snapshot is DEFINETLY getting restored when we are done
[13:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, gonna head over to winders and start getting fallout 4 set up and modded
[13:55:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall don't break too much whilst i'm lookin at nekkid pixels
[14:11:41] <cmn32480> we will
[14:13:40] <cmn32480> or at least we'll try, unless Bytram shows up... then it be a guarantee
[14:27:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lego Changes Bulk Ordering Policy Following Ai Weiwei Controversy - http://sylnt.us - lego-my-eggo
[14:59:19] <chromas> lego my weiwei
[15:57:21] <mrcoolbp> can confirm, letting me "do stuff to the servers" would be a catastrophically bad decision
[15:58:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> we should give you some toy servers of your own to play with
[15:58:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> (that's what local VMs are for)
[16:29:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Are Phone Numbers Doomed to Die? - http://sylnt.us - no-more-wrong-numbers
[17:01:51] <cmn32480> people drive me nuts
[17:02:07] <cmn32480> I asked for opinions on somethign 8 weeks ago.
[17:02:15] <cmn32480> nobody said shit
[17:02:30] <cmn32480> now that the decision is made, people are bitching about it
[17:11:36] <cmn32480> !uid
[17:11:37] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6032, owned by jaypro
[17:28:01] <cmn32480> Really??? fr0sty piss? buncha savages in this town.
[17:28:09] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[17:28:10] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Offtopic)
[17:39:06] <Gravis> finally! the datacenter is getting a good kick in the ass: https://www.techpowerup.com
[17:39:06] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03AMD Announces Opteron A1100 Series 64-bit ARM Processors for the Datacenter | techPowerUp
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[18:00:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Turntables and Vinyl at CES 2016 - http://sylnt.us - c'mon-baby-play-my-vinyl
[18:01:42] <swiss> i need a good turntable
[18:06:16] <Gravis> lulz: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com(1).gif
[18:06:50] <Gravis> full vid: https://www.youtube.com
[18:06:52] <GravyCheeseFries> ^ 03Corgi on a Carousel - YouTube
[19:31:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New DARPA Chip Could Give US a Boost in Electronic Warfare - http://sylnt.us - soon-to-be-followed-by-better-jammers
[21:02:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Seagate Announces its First Helium-Filled Hard Drives for Datacenters - http://sylnt.us - lightweights-in-storage
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[22:38:17] <arti> cmn32480: damn your decisions and lack of consideratoin!
[22:38:30] * arti sighs
[22:38:35] <arti> that's your fault, too.
[22:42:57] <nick> everyone can share the blame
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[23:03:09] <cmn32480> i know arti
[23:03:12] <cmn32480> all my fault
[23:03:19] <arti> let the record state!
[23:03:28] <arti> the heretic amids all fault
[23:03:31] <cmn32480> ask my wife... she'll tell you
[23:03:32] <arti> admits.
[23:03:34] <arti> haha
[23:03:40] <arti> cmn32480++
[23:03:40] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 36
[23:04:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rand Corporation: National Security Implications of Virtual Currency - http://sylnt.us - high-density-cash-cache
[23:04:15] <cmn32480> what I shoudl have done, was dictate from the mountain and said fuck what everybody else wants
[23:04:34] <arti> crom would agree with this method, and laugh from his mountain.
[23:04:35] <cmn32480> but I tried to take what my people wanted into consideration... and it obviously didn't help
[23:05:39] <cmn32480> it pisses me off that I put out a bunch of options, and epeople wait until we are getting ready to move into the space to start having a shit fit about it
[23:05:52] <cmn32480> I hate babysitting adults
[23:07:52] * arti was just fanning the flames
[23:08:09] <arti> you gave them choices, and made one. perhaps it can be reassessed in the future
[23:08:32] * arti shares peanut m&ms
[23:08:36] <arti> these won't judge you
[23:09:57] <cmn32480> arti is allowed to fan the flames. /me needs to vent before he punishes the aduuts-acting-like-kids
[23:10:44] <cmn32480> by sending them to work with no ice cream
[23:11:25] <arti> for greater effect try substituting decaf instead
[23:11:44] <cmn32480> do I get to have my own pot of high-test?
[23:12:34] * arti advocates a personal coffee machine
[23:12:41] <arti> or coffee.sh in your user directory
[23:13:06] <cmn32480> lol
[23:14:19] <cmn32480> i gotta take my oldest to indoor soccer
[23:14:26] <cmn32480> back in a while.
[23:14:33] <arti> alright, enjoy.
[23:14:47] <arti> don't forget to set mode +defensive when routing there