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[01:02:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Helium Deposit Discovered - http://sylnt.us - lots-of-squeeky-voices
[01:03:22] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:03:22] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[01:04:19] <takyon> so I'm putting the mead into the carboy tomorrow
[01:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> been a week already?
[01:05:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> time it does fly
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[01:05:52] <takyon> yeah. i added the last of the extra sugar today
[01:05:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool
[01:06:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna be some stout mead but that's the best kind imo
[01:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, i'm flippin tired. still got an hour before bedtime though.
[01:08:47] <takyon> how easy is the siphoning process
[01:08:57] <takyon> guess I'll test the thing out on a glass of water or something
[01:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have a stiff plastic rod to put on the end of your siphon hose?
[01:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/rod/tube/
[01:09:24] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> you have a stiff plastic tube to put on the end of your siphon hose?
[01:09:45] <takyon> yeah, 5ft worth i think
[01:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, that may be a bit much. you only need one as tall as the carboy
[01:10:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> but you can do it with just the hose if necessary
[01:10:58] <takyon> i can cut it, or have some hanging out of the top
[01:11:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> does help if you have someone else around to lend a hand.
[01:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> the night before you rack it off, tilt the bucket by sticking a book or something under one side of it so all the dead yeast settles down into one corner. makes it a little easier.
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[01:12:48] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[01:12:50] <Timmeh> ^ 03Western Digital Rolls Out 256 GB SanDisk microSDXC Memory Cards
[01:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> and have it sitting on the kitchen table or something high so you can siphon easy and don't have to move it and stir up yeast.
[01:13:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> same deal with the carboy when you go to bottle it.
[01:13:44] <takyon> yeah I'll do that shortly then, and add the bleach to the carboy so it can sit overnight
[01:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> only a very tiny bit. like a tablespoon. fill the rest with water n rinse the hell out of it after.
[01:14:47] <takyon> your mail says half a cup
[01:15:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you let it sit and get funky later you might use as much as that to clean it up again, yeah. but this is a new carboy.
[01:15:26] <takyon> k
[01:15:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> no skunky yeast n bacteria in it to really need cleaned.
[01:16:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, make sure and clean your siphon hoses right after ya use em. they're near impossible to clean if you let that stuff get skunky.
[01:17:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of bleach water in the sink n let em soak for half an hour should do it.
[01:17:23] <takyon> i'm imagining an aquarium
[01:17:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd do a bang up job, yeah.
[01:18:09] <takyon> I don't have one. I'm imagining the scum build up on aquariums and tubes
[01:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, yeah it can get that bad if you let em dry with that yeast n booze in them
[01:18:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuzzy even
[01:20:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> technically the stuff's drinkable now but it'll taste better after it finishes n clears
[01:21:29] <takyon> gotta kill them yeast (eventually)
[01:21:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they won't hurt ya to drink but they ain't tasty.
[01:22:10] <Bytram> ~join #folding
[01:22:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> 404
[01:23:07] <Bytram> well, *exec* may be 4040, but *x* did follow instructions =)
[01:23:15] <Bytram> s/0,/0/
[01:23:15] <sedctl> <Bytram> well, *exec* may be 4040 but *x* did follow instructions =)
[01:23:21] <Bytram> s/4040/404/
[01:23:21] <sedctl> <Bytram> well, *exec* may be 404, but *x* did follow instructions =)
[01:23:32] * Bytram needs a new keyboard or new fingers...
[01:23:40] * Bytram or both.
[01:23:47] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[01:23:49] <x> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 74°F, cloudy, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 77% - Tuesday cloudy (66°F:79°F), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (65°F:80°F), Thursday mostly sunny (65°F:84°F), Friday scattered thunderstorms (67°F:82°F)
[01:23:56] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[01:23:58] <x> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 67°F, cloudy, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 86% - Tuesday showers (61°F:71°F), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (59°F:74°F), Thursday mostly sunny (58°F:79°F), Friday scattered thunderstorms (60°F:76°F)
[01:24:02] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[01:24:03] <x> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 67°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind S at 5 mph, humidity 87% - Tuesday showers (61°F:73°F), Wednesday thunderstorm (57°F:74°F), Thursday partly cloudy (53°F:78°F), Friday mostly sunny (59°F:82°F)
[01:25:31] <Bytram> ~invite exec
[01:26:00] <Bytram> but, unfortunately, x dos not understand the '~folding-rank' command
[01:26:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly a macro
[01:27:06] <Bytram> could well be, how that bot does what it does is a total mystery to me
[01:27:51] <Bytram> I've got enough on my plate getting up to speed on perl, DBs, and templates, I'm not gonna add PHP and whatever things have been coded in it, at least at this point.
[01:29:09] <Bytram> Wow! If I'm reading this right, our team is going to pass IBM within a few days: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[01:29:09] <Timmeh> ^✓ 03Team Overtakes - EXTREME Overclocking Folding @ Home Stats
[01:29:43] <Bytram> and, by july 4th, we'll be in the 5xx's -- wowo!
[01:30:35] <Bytram> oh, and we'll pass EDS, too. I am very much impressed.
[01:31:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: meant ot ask, how was the fooshin today? any luck?
[01:31:31] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[01:31:31] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[01:35:17] <Bytram> https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.my
[01:35:23] <Timmeh> ^ 03Project Zero: How to Compromise the Enterprise Endpoint
[01:35:53] <Bytram> ^^^ Wormable remote code execution flaws discovered in Symantec/Norton antivirus
[01:39:50] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:39:51] <Timmeh> ^ 03Western Digital launches high-speed, high-capacity miniSD cards - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:48:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, plenty but it was all bad
[01:49:04] <Bytram> If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all....
[01:49:17] * Bytram channels the 1970's and Hee-Haw
[01:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think the boy child just ain't meant to catch fish or something
[01:49:56] <Bytram> take a man to catch a fish? or somethin'?
[01:50:05] <SirFinkus> god damn shitty movies are great
[01:50:17] <Bytram> SirFinkus: whacha watchin'?
[01:50:21] <SirFinkus> predators
[01:50:32] <Deucalion> sup soiledpants?
[01:50:37] <SirFinkus> "Wait! who are you?"
[01:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> watchin preacher myself
[01:50:44] <SirFinkus> "I'm the one that got away"
[01:50:49] * Bytram saw alien & aliens but never saw any of the predator movies
[01:51:09] <SirFinkus> they're schlock, but entertaining
[01:51:19] <SirFinkus> I think the first one was better because it was shittier
[01:51:22] <Bytram> IOW, good summertime fare
[01:51:35] * Bytram watched "T.A.G. The Assassin Game" today
[01:51:35] * Deucalion wipes the tear of self-pity from SirFinkus eye
[01:51:55] <SirFinkus> the prisoner guy here is so over the top
[01:52:13] <SirFinkus> when he "gets home" he's gonna "rape some bitches"
[01:52:14] * Bytram waves at Deucalion and invites him to pull up a comfy chair for a while
[01:52:28] <SirFinkus> then morpheus showed up
[01:52:37] <SirFinkus> and is being all mysterious and shit
[01:52:42] * Bytram reaches over and adjusts the A/C
[01:53:04] <Bytram> humidity--
[01:53:04] <Bender> karma - humidity: -1
[01:53:09] <SirFinkus> he's apparently a badass, but he's looking a little fat
[01:53:17] <SirFinkus> and not particularly muscular
[01:53:23] <Bytram> who is 'he' ?
[01:53:33] <SirFinkus> morpheus
[01:53:40] <SirFinkus> lawrence fishburn
[01:53:46] <Bytram> ahhh. k.
[01:53:50] <SirFinkus> I don't care what his movie name is
[01:54:04] <Bytram> nor do i
[01:54:07] <Bytram> for a bit, i thought you were talking about the matrix
[01:55:01] <SirFinkus> he's out of breathe too
[01:55:33] * Deucalion notifies Bytram, if I find a comfy chair at this point I'll be asleep in a picosecond. I appreciate the offer, but I'm just fine right here perched on a sharpened larch sapling for a seat, beating myself with barb wire whilst mainlining taurine.
[01:55:37] * Deucalion twistches
[01:56:11] <Deucalion> things are good..
[01:56:40] <Bytram> Deucalion: what a gift for a turn of phrase you have my good man
[01:57:33] <Bytram> glad to hear things are good... sometimes I get so caught up on what *isn't*, that I lose sight of all that *is*
[01:57:40] <SirFinkus> is the comfy chair part of the EU or not?
[01:57:53] <SirFinkus> does it allow immigrants in?
[01:57:56] <Bytram> only the seat, the arms have voted to brexit
[01:58:32] * Bytram has no idea where thelegs went off to
[01:58:57] <Deucalion> Bytram, you often mention that turn of phrase thing. Unfortunately my verbosity expands exponentially with my inability to communicate effectively. Just more words.
[01:59:12] <Bytram> curious...
[01:59:32] <SirFinkus> I hope this convict guy really is a dirtbag, and doesn't have a redemption moment
[01:59:36] <Bytram> my verbosity tends to increase with amount of sleep
[02:00:29] <Bytram> I just don't have the energy to come up with eloquent phrasings or disarming expressions -- when I'm tired, it's "Just hte facts, Ma,am"
[02:02:01] <Deucalion> What makes me chuckle is the campaigners for a 2nd referendum..... didn't get the answer they like... let's have another one. Talk about a slap in the chops... there goes democracy.... sometimes you lose. But to be fair - it was the first opportunity to vote for ~anything~ in the UK that may actually make some kind of difference to any shit.
[02:02:37] <SirFinkus> yeah, that's lame
[02:02:45] <Deucalion> Sucks... some people voted Leave as a protest vote and are now surprised that we Leave.... who would think... voting means something xD
[02:03:36] <SirFinkus> YOU IN MY HOUSE NOW SUCKA
[02:03:39] <SirFinkus> this is great
[02:03:41] <Bytram> what amazes me, from this side of the pond, that something so gravely affecting the country could be decided by a simple majority vote and not 2/3 or 3/4
[02:04:04] <Deucalion> Exactly Bytram....
[02:04:41] <SirFinkus> that hasn't stopped US congress...
[02:04:58] <Bytram> is that an EU 'thing' or was that decided, ummm, 'in-house' (UK, England, Britain)
[02:05:32] <Bytram> SirFinkus: well, these days, the senate is pretty much a 60%+ vote required or a fillibuster just keeps things from moving along
[02:06:28] <Deucalion> I have no time for Farage and his heckling, but his EU Parliament speech today was possibly the funniest thing I have heard in a long time.... "... well, you're not laughing now" - met by the cries of thousands of EUcrats dying on a very hot fire.
[02:06:55] * SirFinkus just wants to watch the world burn at this point
[02:07:25] <Deucalion> Bytram, the UK In/Out voite was purely UK voters
[02:07:26] * Bytram would prefer a better vantage point
[02:07:35] <julian> There's a good liberal argument that could have been made to leave the EU, but by not making it they let The Right take the momentum. That won't be good for your future governments
[02:08:12] <Bytram> ok, so, for this 'dumb murican' -- England, scotland, who all voted to leave?
[02:08:26] <julian> Scotland was entirely remain
[02:08:30] <SirFinkus> scotland wanted to remain overwhelmingly
[02:08:40] <Bytram> okay, but from the vote, does that mean they get the boot, too
[02:08:41] <Bytram> ?
[02:09:02] <julian> They're part of the UK, so they go where the UK goes, and the UK voted to leave.
[02:09:15] <SirFinkus> they're a bunch of drunks anyway, so who cares
[02:09:38] <Deucalion> julian, now we have Brexit, Farage and UKIP have no platform to stand on - their sole reason to be was exit the EU. That's done. SO no-one will vote UKIP again - and they are the only even vaguely far right / nationalist party around here.
[02:09:38] <julian> They've produced some of the finest minds of the Western world, in fact
[02:09:45] <Bytram> and to make sure I have this straight, that's pretty much every across the channel from France, right? England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland... did I miss any?
[02:10:22] <Bytram> julian: yep! a LOT of the early work in computers was out of Edinburough (sp?)
[02:10:27] <SirFinkus> and the finest whiskeys
[02:11:37] <SirFinkus> "who's your daddy now mother trucker!"
[02:11:51] <SirFinkus> did I mention I'm watching it on tv?
[02:11:58] <SirFinkus> so hilarious overdubs
[02:11:59] <julian> Bytram: Wouldn't surprise me, but I was thinking about philosophy
[02:12:12] <Bytram> nyeah, that too.
[02:12:24] <SirFinkus> literally 30 seconds later, the predator rips out his spine
[02:12:34] <SirFinkus> but can't let the kiddies hear fuck
[02:13:07] <Deucalion> Bytram, it's a little complicated. Scotland largely voted to remain. But as part of the UK, for now they have to ride along. They could have another Scottish referendum to divorce from the UK, if that was a success, they would then have to apply for their own membership into the EU again. Also to be conflated with the divorce of the English and Scottish money markets.
[02:13:25] <Bytram> don't look easy.
[02:13:41] <Deucalion> It is very messy.
[02:13:49] <julian> Deucalion: I hope so. From here it looks a lot like what we have with Trump. Right wing has some legitimate concerns that aren't being addressed so they get voted in on those but end up bringing a lot of terrible policies along with it
[02:14:07] <Bytram> I'd heard the reports that the Scots were much not pleased, but that got me all confused again as to who all was going and staying.
[02:14:18] <SirFinkus> oh damn, the yakuza guy is going to samurai battle a predator
[02:14:30] <SirFinkus> because shitty movie
[02:14:44] <SirFinkus> I'm sorry
[02:14:49] <SirFinkus> "crappy" movie
[02:14:55] <Bytram> SirFinkus: seeing as I've not seen the movie before, you you please take it easy on the spoilers?
[02:15:03] <SirFinkus> nope
[02:15:12] <Bytram> kick SirFinkus
[02:15:14] <SirFinkus> shocked they didn't use wacky asian music for this
[02:15:48] <SirFinkus> damn, not even when killed the predator
[02:16:04] * Bytram is reminded of the saying: "It is easier to put slippers on one's feet than it is to carpet the world."
[02:16:19] <SirFinkus> but artsy windblown tall grass death scene
[02:16:40] <julian> I have a Windows 10 laptop sitting idle for about an hour and I have task manager open. Nothing is running, but it's been at 30% CPU usage for about 20 minutes. I wonder what it's doing
[02:16:45] <Bytram> SirFinkus: sorry, just had to put you on ignore for the next hour or so.
[02:17:03] <Bytram> julian: gathering feedback and telemetry?
[02:17:19] <Deucalion> Bytram, I'm more one for the status quo, but in reality where was the status quo getting us? Disillusionment, voter apathy, necrosis of democracy in a two party state..... it's uncomfortable in the short term, but things needed shaking up in hindsight.
[02:17:40] <Deucalion> A very short hindsight
[02:17:43] <Bytram> if you have not checked it out before, I cannot too highly recommend Process Explorer for finding out what is doing what on your windows box
[02:17:53] <SirFinkus> oh good, now I can talk shit about bytram without him reading
[02:18:14] <Bytram> follow the slippery slope, or jump off the train?
[02:19:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> rob the train and escape on your horse
[02:19:29] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[02:19:29] <Deucalion> Bytram, just googly Sysinternals ......unfortunately MS bought it a while back but windows wranglers from the 90s still use the toolset :D
[02:19:30] <julian> There's no disk IO but somehow it's been receiving a steady 8kbps of data from somewhere
[02:19:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: lol
[02:19:35] <Timmeh> ^ 03Play Store malware roots phones, installs an app every two minutes • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:20:01] <Bytram> julian: pull the net connection?
[02:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it is Windows, so it really shouldn't be connected to any kind of network.
[02:20:38] <SirFinkus> you're running windows 10
[02:20:43] <SirFinkus> it just... does this stuff
[02:21:01] <Deucalion> invest in a good firewall
[02:21:01] * TheMightyBuzzard scoots off to bed
[02:21:14] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[02:21:15] * x insatiably drops a wine flute of Debian on TheMightyBuzzard
[02:21:17] <julian> there's a pfsense router between it and the internet
[02:21:17] <SirFinkus> trust them :^)
[02:21:34] <SirFinkus> it's an operating system that tricks users into installing it
[02:21:41] <Deucalion> julian, with what policies? Allow All OUT?
[02:21:44] <Bytram> can you tee of the packets into, say, wireshark on the router?
[02:22:01] <julian> Modulo the privacy concerns, which you get with all versions of Windows anyway, it's a good OS
[02:22:46] <julian> And I need Windows for some things, unfortunately
[02:23:00] <Bytram> well, weren't any to be worried about in dos, windows 3.1, windows for workgroup, or even NT, so far as I know... but as time has gone on, they have gotten a bit more voracious in their appetite
[02:24:01] <julian> If I needed to use a version of Windows THAT old I'd use a VM
[02:24:23] <Deucalion> Just the telemetry "debacle" that no-one seems to be able to qualify or quantify as it gets sent encrypted. Probably nothing to worry about, but in the absence of information about what is being collected, paranoid types assume the worst. Not that the majority of users or MS care.
[02:24:54] <Bytram> what I meant was... there *WAS* a time when one did not need to worry about telemetry.. as time passes, it can no longer be ignored
[02:25:01] <julian> I'm assuming the NSA is cc'd on everything MS gets, which is probably everything the machine does or sees
[02:25:24] * Bytram just assumes that NSA NSLed MS and can decrypt everything MS sends
[02:25:44] <Bytram> time to make some dinner; biab
[02:25:46] <Bytram> afk
[02:26:42] <Deucalion> Oh christ.... yes, yes, there is an individual at the NSA and the FBI poring over your every missive... or perhaps maybe not.
[02:27:38] <julian> Deucalion: that wouldn't be necessary. Just store everything in case you ever need to go back and trace someone/something
[02:27:53] <SirFinkus> pretty much how they use it now
[02:28:17] <SirFinkus> but I'm worried they're just feeding this into some machine learning thing that's going to fuck me later
[02:28:23] <julian> This computer had this file with this checksum at this time, ad infinitum
[02:29:05] <julian> *hash
[02:29:40] <SirFinkus> my latest windows complaint is the c++ redistributable DUMPING RANDOM FUCKING FILES IN THE ROOT DIRECTORY JESUS CHRIST
[02:30:05] <julian> Don
[02:30:25] <julian> In C:\?
[02:30:37] <SirFinkus> worse
[02:30:52] <SirFinkus> on one of my externals I happened to have plugged in
[02:31:00] <Deucalion> julian, I missed the /s off. Certainly any fibre routed out of any of the 5eyes nations are being filtered for trigger patterns, but that will be on the fly, no-one has enough, fast enough storage to capture it all infinitum. Will be interesting to see if the UK passes Theresa's snoopy bill.
[02:31:02] <julian> The laptop has gone almost totally idle now
[02:31:17] <SirFinkus> and really should be none of its business when updates and installers are concerned
[02:31:39] <julian> Deucalion: in the USA it all goes to a datacenter in Utah. It's the size of a small city
[02:31:56] <julian> in terms of power/bandwidth consumption
[02:32:13] <Deucalion> Heard about that... is it even built yet?
[02:32:25] <SirFinkus> I'd imagine all emails, and pretty much all text communication (like irc) is stored now
[02:32:28] <julian> They had a lot of troubles bringing it online, but I think it's working now
[02:32:41] <SirFinkus> or that's the goal anyway
[02:33:22] <julian> Storage is so cheap now and text is so easy to compress, the entire IRC network on the open Internet is probably there
[02:33:30] <Deucalion> I'd love them to store and hold #Soylent... given Loggie already does that and publishes it in the clear :D
[02:33:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Judge Dismisses Movie Piracy Case, IP-Address Doesn't Prove Anything - http://sylnt.us - what's-the-catch?
[02:33:48] <julian> This account also logs everything :p
[02:33:51] <SirFinkus> irc, skype, fucking steam chat
[02:34:09] <SirFinkus> I have a pretty large trannies folder
[02:34:10] <julian> Steam is probably harder, I think it's encrypted at least
[02:34:26] <Deucalion> julian, can you tell me what you understand by "the entire IRC network on the open Internet"
[02:34:37] <SirFinkus> encryption is removed here :^)
[02:34:59] <julian> Deucalion: I mean by that something like every IRC channel you could join from your machine with an internet connection
[02:36:32] <Deucalion> julian, you do get that IRC is not one homogenous network right? It's just a protocol.
[02:39:10] <Deucalion> Freenode or EFNet or DALnet are not magically somehow connected to SN's IRC server to see what is going on here.... for example.
[02:39:20] <SirFinkus> oh man, pixels now
[02:39:32] <julian> Yes, I mean the preponderance of IRC servers taken as a whole
[02:40:33] <SirFinkus> hasn'T even started yet, the "happy madison" thing already pissed me off
[02:40:37] <SirFinkus> this is gonna be great
[02:40:55] <Deucalion> Should you choose to connect to any IRC network without choosing TLS (for what its worth) then yes much like POP3 or SMTP back in the day, that hits the wire in plain text for all to sniff up. SO don;t do that.
[02:41:37] <SirFinkus> really, just assume anything on irc is public
[02:41:48] <SirFinkus> because it just takes one cunt logging the channel and it all is
[02:42:38] <Deucalion> Not a cunt... just the reality. But people don;t like reality.
[02:43:42] <Bytram> "Reality is for those people who cannot handle science fiction."
[02:44:37] <SirFinkus> oh god, this movie
[02:44:59] <Deucalion> Godamnit SirFinkus, you made me say the "c" word in a public forum... I shall never be a world leader now.
[02:45:24] <SirFinkus> it's such an obvious nostalgic cash grab
[02:45:35] <SirFinkus> embrace it
[02:45:36] * Bytram calls dibs on Deucalion'a volcano lair
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[02:46:04] <julian> If NSA/GCHQ has everything you've done online there's probably worse than that
[02:46:07] <SirFinkus> like, they couldn't even get original arcade cabinets
[02:46:21] <SirFinkus> all the gameplay was greenscreened in
[02:46:59] <cmn32480> somebody could have dropped an email that exec disappeared...
[02:47:12] <SirFinkus> they fucked it
[02:47:32] <SirFinkus> the pixel effects aren't like, old school crt pixels
[02:47:34] * cmn32480 does not look forward to cleaning THAT out of exec's case
[02:47:35] <Deucalion> Bytram, I never did hit submit on that KickStarter volcano island thing.
[02:47:37] <SirFinkus> they didn'T even get that right
[02:48:15] <Bytram> Curses! Foiled again!
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[03:03:20] * Deucalion joins SirFinkus, pulls up a chair and puts another world on the fire.
[03:03:56] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's not bad
[03:06:58] <SirFinkus> read "On The Beach" for the proper outlook
[03:14:39] <Deucalion> Nevil Shute?
[03:21:05] <Deucalion> Funny how nothing changes for decades, everyone moans about nothing changing, then something changes, everyone moans because something changed. If the default action of "everyone" is "moan" regardless the direction of the wind. I see no reason not to tear it down and start again with the hope it may be better... nothing to lose and everything to gain.
[03:31:54] <SirFinkus> yes Deucalion
[03:32:33] <SirFinkus> the movie is fine too
[03:32:37] <SirFinkus> the old one
[03:33:22] <Bytram> I'm having a bit of a brain fart... what replaced the BIOS on a PC? Was it UEFI?
[03:33:37] <SirFinkus> yes
[03:33:42] <Bytram> thansk
[03:35:33] <Bytram> okay, that should do it for a while -- story queue is in good shape into tomorrow evening.
[03:35:48] <Bytram|away> ncie chatting with all of ya
[03:35:56] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
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[03:36:01] <Subsentient> Bytram|away: UEFI is shit
[03:36:11] <Bytram|away> agreed.
[03:36:18] <Bytram|away> K.I.S.S.
[03:36:23] <Subsentient> I miss the old BIOS/MBR days
[03:37:16] <Bytram|away> I understand the desire to step away from what was originally 16-bit real-mode code to handle today's 64-bit protected mode OS's, but... geesh!
[03:37:25] <Bytram|away> hexedit FTW
[03:37:34] <Bytram|away> !uid
[03:37:34] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6274, owned by snmygos
[03:37:46] <Subsentient> Bytram|away: I could have come up with something better by squatting over a paper plate
[03:37:59] * Bytram|away looks around for the brain bleach
[03:38:18] <Bytram|away> and on THAT fine [brown] note... g'night, all!
[03:38:24] <Subsentient> Bytram|away: Too late, no escape from the deliciousness. Your "chocolate" milkshake will be there soon
[04:22:24] <SirFinkus> now on to paul blart mall cop 2
[04:22:37] <SirFinkus> I'm worried though, because I haven't seen the first
[04:22:47] <SirFinkus> I hope I don't miss out on all the lore
[04:25:34] <SirFinkus> oh man
[04:25:49] <SirFinkus> this is already worse? than pixels
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[09:49:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[09:49:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2703
[09:50:04] <boru> whiskey++
[09:50:04] <Bender> karma - whiskey: 10
[09:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed but i need the coffee for a few hours first.
[09:51:54] <boru> It's one of those days, today.
[09:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> understandable. and it's always 5:00 somewhere
[09:54:00] <boru> Whiskey'o'clock can't come soon enough.
[09:54:20] <boru> Unless some sort of catastrophic event consumes management in a great conflagration.
[09:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe it will now, god willing
[09:57:16] <boru> I'll settle for kinetic bombardment from orbit.
[10:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> might as well use nukes. it's the kicked up dust that's going to kill everything anyway and nukes are cheaper.
[10:03:07] <boru> It's all of those anti-missile systems that are the problem. Why not have both, and use the Fractional Orbit Bombardment System designed by the Russians during the Cold War?
[10:04:10] <boru> Hydrogen bombs on an orbital weapons platform. Cuts the launch-to-strike time in half.
[10:04:55] <boru> Requires a fraction of fuel for attitude adjusters, assuming the control surfaces are sufficient when entering the atmosphere.
[10:05:24] <boru> Let gravity (and nuclear physics) do the rest!
[10:06:23] <boru> Boru Brand Management-management Systems™
[10:06:56] <boru> Make Project Thor a reality!
[10:07:14] <boru> *some sort of banal jingle*
[10:12:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas fine, just don't automate it or you'll end up creating skynet
[10:14:13] <boru> Right at this moment, Skynet seems like a favourable alternative.
[10:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, at least people would quit trying to take my guns
[10:15:59] <boru> Where's that?
[10:16:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[10:16:22] <boru> Where are you that they're trying to take your guns?
[10:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> US.
[10:16:55] <boru> Ah, that old chestnut.
[10:17:04] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[10:17:18] <boru> I think the car analogy applies pretty well to that one.
[10:17:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> gun control's end goal is complete removal of guns. it doesn't take much of listening to proponents to figure this out.
[10:17:57] <boru> You have people who don't own any firearms calling for their ban. However, if you moved to ban cars, they'd be up in arms, pardon the pun, because "hey, wait, that affects me!"
[10:18:04] <boru> Yeah, agreed.
[10:18:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[10:18:27] <boru> Disarming the populace is the first step towards tyrrany, and all that.
[10:18:42] <boru> Err, tyranny, rather.
[10:18:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why every household should be required to own a machine gun. like in switzerland.
[10:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure there'd be some initial darwinism happening but once that sorted itself out you'd have much less crime.
[10:20:28] <boru> Heh. I think that, by and large, many gun owners are not represented in the US, by this anti-gun crowd. Rifles and shotguns have been putting food on my family's table for generations. These cityfolk have blinkers on. They see urban gun-related crime, and nothing else. And no amount of gun control is going to fix the latter.
[10:21:17] <boru> I posit that a small amount of gun crime committed is with legally acquired or legally held firearms.
[10:21:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't matter. it's no larger a percentage than with baseball bats.
[10:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> or cars or a gerzillion other things.
[10:22:40] <boru> Aye, that's a part of my point.
[10:22:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's like 1000x more likely for a firearm to prevent a crime than to kill anyone.
[10:22:54] <boru> Gun control does nothing to stop crimes committed with illegally procured firearms.
[10:23:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be no legal/illegal distinction except for felons
[10:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i am certainly not going to register any of my weapons or ask permission to buy them.
[10:24:34] <boru> I commend you.
[10:25:00] <boru> Anyway, I reckon we're on the same page.
[10:25:09] * boru absconds for lunch.
[10:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like i been tellin Deucalion... they're still allowed to own longbows in the UK, they should hold a rebellion with them.
[10:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> aright, since nobody's awake and i don't have time to get any serious amount of work done today ima play an hour of vidya before i get started on my day
[11:00:12] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:00:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2704
[11:00:20] * crutchy took the day off work tomorrow
[11:00:52] <crutchy> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[11:00:54] * exec crutchyly runs the Installshield Wizard to set up a dogbox of cromulence for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:01:31] <crutchy> apparently the far left whackos in the US are even more terrified that trumpo might become potus after the brexit thingy
[11:01:51] <crutchy> the whole world is suddenly becoming more interesting :p
[11:02:37] <crutchy> ...from the relative safety of this little mining colony on the other side of the planet
[11:10:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> in the US, both the far left and the far right consist entirely of whackos and pretty much ignorable.
[11:11:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> however, our "moderate right" behaves like the rest of the world's "far right".
[11:17:20] <crutchy> ron paul was your moderate right. he probably worked on more legislation with the democrats than anyone else in the republican party
[11:17:50] <crutchy> even hillary clinton seems far right compared to ron paul :/
[11:18:53] <crutchy> the only thing he was really conservative about was fiscal policy
[11:22:49] <crutchy> ~join #dev
[11:25:54] <cmn32480> ~gday crutchy
[11:25:56] * exec disturbingly shoves a byte of activex plugins in crutchy
[11:26:10] <crutchy> ~g'day cmn32480 o/
[11:26:12] * exec insensitively pisses a thingy of a fart machine on cmn32480
[11:26:22] <crutchy> how you been mate?
[11:26:38] <cmn32480> busy as hell
[11:26:44] <cmn32480> at Cub Scout camp this week
[11:26:47] <crutchy> ah
[11:26:49] <cmn32480> at least it is Day Camp
[11:26:55] <crutchy> dib dib dib dob dob dob
[11:27:07] * crutchy did cubs and scouts :)
[11:27:15] <cmn32480> how 'bout you? things been good?
[11:27:22] <crutchy> pretty busy at work
[11:27:52] <crutchy> wifey's back issue means home life isn't very active :|
[11:28:02] <cmn32480> ahhh
[11:28:05] <crutchy> we're ok though
[11:28:08] <cmn32480> at leat you get a rest
[11:28:19] <crutchy> yeah i don't mind that
[11:28:30] * cmn32480 wonders what a break is like
[11:28:53] <cmn32480> I gotta run
[11:28:59] <crutchy> getting out of bed for work has been reeeeeaallly hard lately
[11:29:01] <crutchy> damn cold
[11:29:08] <crutchy> oky doky. haf fun o/
[11:29:08] <cmn32480> we gotta re-set up again this mornign since there were storms last night
[11:29:17] <crutchy> oh bugger
[11:29:28] <crutchy> hope everyone ok
[11:29:39] <cmn32480> we pull all our stuff down, tarp it, and reset in the morning
[11:29:47] <cmn32480> should be dry
[11:29:59] <cmn32480> but more importantly, the canopies won't gget busted up
[11:30:19] <cmn32480> since they aren't mine, I don't wish to have to replace them
[11:31:06] <cmn32480> ~gnight crutchy
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[11:31:10] <cmn32480> gotta run
[11:33:19] <crutchy> ~gnight cmn32480
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[12:53:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, our moderate right is firmly on the left by world standards. Europe is not "the rest of the world".
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[13:02:17] <crutchy> yeah europe is very left-wing
[13:03:46] <crutchy> there's also a vast difference between social conservatism and economic conservatism, and america seems to lack the latter
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[13:18:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you ain't just whistling dixie
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[15:24:38] <Gravis> "You Want My Password or a Dead Patient?" <-- the obvious answer is "yes" ;)
[15:25:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i don't really want either.
[15:28:27] <n1> in the US, what is the difference between a town and a city?
[15:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing really. cities are generally larger but it's not an official distinction.
[15:35:23] <n1> thats kind of what i concluded
[15:36:30] <n1> "Lake Buena Vista is a city in Orange County, Florida, United States. It is mostly known for being the mailing address for Walt Disney World [...] The permanent residential population of Lake Buena Vista was 10 at the 2010 census"
[15:40:59] <Bytram|away> n1: my understanding is that it is a reference to the form of government that runs it. A city generally has a mayor and or manager, whereas a town is generally run by a town meeting.
[15:42:15] <n1> that makes sense, lake buena vista has a mayor
[15:42:48] <n1> and 4 council members, for those '10 residents'.
[16:12:29] <Runaway1956> #submit http://www.foxnews.com
[16:12:30] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[16:12:55] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[16:15:03] * n1 applause
[16:27:56] <Bytram|away> gtg; have a great day everyone!
[16:28:00] <Bytram|away> ~gnight #Soylent
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[16:28:10] <Bytram|away> lol
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[17:45:57] <Runaway1956> Damn Windows all the hell and back. It won't tell me why it keeps rebooting. I just installed Microsoft's debugging tools, to get a handle on things.
[17:46:08] <Runaway1956> Hopefully get a handle on things, anyway.
[17:46:56] <Runaway1956> What makes this so discouraging is, I had the wife on Ubuntu for about three years. Then, she decided to go back to freaking WINDOWS!!!
[18:06:25] <chromas> Put linux back on but change it to a windows theme
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[18:18:32] <Runaway1956> I don't think I could get away with that Chromas - she knows to much to play that game with
[18:19:07] <Runaway1956> Have I ever mentioned that she has built her last three computers? Ordered the parts, assembled them, installed the OS, all of it.
[18:19:49] <Runaway1956> Actually, she orders bundled kits from Newegg - which mostly aren't bad.
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[20:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i'll be damned. we may have a full beg-o-meter right from the start for the second half of the year.
[20:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh nevermind, i was reading that wrong. we still po.
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