#Soylent | Logs for 2016-09-17
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[00:04:40] <Cmn32480_phone> thanks soycow4122
[00:04:47] <Cmn32480_phone> Will look into it
[00:05:08] <Cmn32480_phone> ~gday crutchy
[00:05:10] * exec diarrhetically stuffs some stock footage of Gravis Ultrasound into crutchy
[00:06:22] <crutchy> ahoy!
[00:06:33] <crutchy> lol
[00:07:02] <crutchy> ~macro ~buzzkill * privmsg .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[00:07:04] <exec> 02 *** macro with trigger "~buzzkill" and PRIVMSG command template ".kick TheMightyBuzzard" saved
[00:18:58] <Cmn32480_phone> you the bestest crutchy
[00:19:21] <crutchy> of course it wont actually do anything :p
[00:19:51] <crutchy> i guess it could be used as a counter to ~blame
[00:20:04] <crutchy> give Bytram some ammo to fire back :p
[00:20:57] <Cmn32480_phone> ~buzzkill
[00:20:58] <exec> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[00:21:04] <Cmn32480_phone> tee hee
[00:21:08] <Cmn32480_phone> I love it
[00:21:16] <Cmn32480_phone> but I been drinking
[00:22:55] <crutchy> friday_night++
[00:22:55] <Bender> karma - friday_night: 2
[00:23:09] <crutchy> ~time Cmn32480
[00:23:11] <exec> Friday, 16 September 2016 @ 8:23 pm GMT-4 - Baltimore, MD, USA
[00:23:20] <crutchy> ~time
[00:23:21] <exec> Saturday, 17 September 2016 @ 10:23 am AEST - Melbourne VIC
[00:23:39] <crutchy> i'm still on my first coffee of this relaxing saturday morning
[00:23:51] <crutchy> playing some civ5
[00:31:59] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[00:33:53] <Cmn32480_phone> I'm on my second whiskey of the night
[00:34:30] <Cmn32480_phone> soon to be third
[00:34:46] <Cmn32480_phone> bytram watch this
[00:34:55] <Cmn32480_phone> ~buzzkill
[00:34:56] <exec> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[00:35:52] <Bytram> Cmn32480_phone: ROFLMAO!!!!
[00:36:10] <crutchy> i should really clean up exec's source code. so much crap :|
[00:36:21] <Cmn32480_phone> it doesn't actually work.... but hilarious nonetheless
[00:36:50] <crutchy> yeah would be a bit risky putting a shell exec bot in charge of this place methinks
[00:36:57] <Cmn32480_phone> crutchy - that's a fine goal... Should be done around 2020?
[00:37:08] <crutchy> maybe 2025
[00:37:16] <crutchy> can't be too unrealistically optimistic
[00:38:14] <Bytram> ~time format=%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S
[00:38:16] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 17 September 2016, 12:38 am
[00:38:29] <Cmn32480_phone> good plan
[00:38:40] <Bytram> ^^^ idea for setting a user's preference on how they want date/time displayed
[00:38:52] <Bytram> cf: strftime()
[00:39:45] <Bytram> Cmn32480_phone: I'm curious... are you using an app on your phone, or just using the web interface to access IRC?
[00:40:03] <Cmn32480_phone> app on phone
[00:40:11] <Cmn32480_phone> andchat
[00:40:24] <Bytram> mind if I ask what app?
[00:40:30] <Cmn32480_phone> Am on wifi at the house
[00:40:35] <Bytram> oh, 'andchat' is the name of the app?
[00:43:55] <Bytram> break time...
[00:43:56] <Bytram> biab
[00:44:06] <Cmn32480_phone> correct
[00:44:21] * crutchy is working on a ~time-prefs alias
[00:46:58] <Cmn32480_phone> crutchy - are s'mores a completely American thing?
[00:48:28] <crutchy> dunno. i never seen them here. well, not by the name of s'mores anyway
[00:48:36] <crutchy> what are they?
[00:50:21] <Cmn32480_phone> Graham cracker, marshmallow and a bit of chocolate
[00:50:47] <Cmn32480_phone> marshmallow roasted over fire
[00:51:12] <Cmn32480_phone> an ooey gooey mess
[00:51:34] <crutchy> hmm yeah fired marshmallows are pretty good
[00:51:38] <Cmn32480_phone> moonshine++
[00:51:38] <Bender> karma - moonshine: 1
[00:52:12] <crutchy> i have a tub of ben & jerries karamel sutra in the freezer
[00:52:14] <crutchy> so yummy
[00:52:42] <crutchy> shit. coffee mug is empty :|
[00:52:48] <crutchy> some bastard drank it all
[00:52:56] <Cmn32480_phone> not the same... try them aometime... we have made them.by roasting the marshmallows on the grill too
[00:53:18] <Cmn32480_phone> check for a hole in the bottom
[00:53:20] <crutchy> i'd probably have to order them online
[00:53:48] <crutchy> they probably are at some stores, but i live in a regional city
[00:53:53] <Cmn32480_phone> marshmallows? chocolate? or graham crackers?
[00:54:12] <crutchy> oh you don't actually buy them as s'mores?
[00:54:29] <Cmn32480_phone> No the fun is making them
[00:54:34] <crutchy> ah
[00:54:42] <Cmn32480_phone> roasting the marshmallows erc
[00:54:45] <Cmn32480_phone> e t c
[00:55:00] <crutchy> the ingredients would be gone before the final assembly knowing my kids
[00:55:24] <Cmn32480_phone> but they'd love it
[00:55:53] <crutchy> yup
[00:56:29] <Cmn32480_phone> something new and different
[00:56:52] <Cmn32480_phone> us damn Americans corrupting the innocent aussie children
[00:57:55] <crutchy> could be worse. i've seen youtube vids of what russian kids get up to
[00:58:15] <crutchy> i'll take american inflence over that anyday :p
[00:58:27] <crutchy> s/le/lue/
[00:58:27] <sedctl> <crutchy> i'll take american influence over that anyday :p
[01:00:09] <Cmn32480_phone> :-)
[01:00:44] <Cmn32480_phone> we just rot their teeth... Russians rot their liver?
[01:02:43] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[01:02:45] <dogbox> ^ 03Crazy Russian Kids Climb Old Soviet Tower - YouTube
[01:15:40] <Cmn32480_phone> pics to follow later
[01:16:00] <crutchy> ~update-exec-file scripts/time.php
[01:16:01] <exec> attempting to download https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[01:16:01] <exec> successfully saved downloaded content to "/home/chris/Downloads/Exec/exec-irc-bot-master/scripts/time.php"
[01:16:06] <crutchy> ~update-exec-file scripts/time_lib.php
[01:16:10] <exec> attempting to download https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[01:16:10] <exec> successfully saved downloaded content to "/home/chris/Downloads/Exec/exec-irc-bot-master/scripts/time_lib.php"
[01:16:16] <crutchy> ~rehash
[01:16:21] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (164 aliases)
[01:16:33] <crutchy> ~time-prefs
[01:16:34] <exec> syntax: ~time-prefs pref value
[01:16:35] <exec> format => format string per http://php.net
[01:16:53] <crutchy> ~time-prefs format U
[01:16:54] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:16:56] <crutchy> ~time
[01:16:58] <exec> Saturday, 17 September 2016 @ 11:16 am AEST - Melbourne VIC
[01:17:05] <crutchy> derp
[01:17:08] <crutchy> ~time-prefs format c
[01:17:09] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:17:11] <crutchy> derp
[01:17:14] <crutchy> ~time
[01:17:15] <exec> Saturday, 17 September 2016 @ 11:17 am AEST - Melbourne VIC
[01:17:38] <crutchy> hmm
[01:17:43] <crutchy> ~update-exec-file scripts/time.php
[01:17:44] <exec> attempting to download https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[01:17:45] <exec> successfully saved downloaded content to "/home/chris/Downloads/Exec/exec-irc-bot-master/scripts/time.php"
[01:17:47] <Cmn32480_phone> ~time
[01:17:50] <exec> syntax: ~time location
[01:17:50] <exec> time data courtesy of Google
[01:17:53] <crutchy> ~update-exec-file scripts/time_lib.php
[01:17:57] <exec> attempting to download https://raw.githubusercontent.com
[01:17:59] <exec> successfully saved downloaded content to "/home/chris/Downloads/Exec/exec-irc-bot-master/scripts/time_lib.php"
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[01:18:03] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:18:04] <dogbox> ^ 03Green Jello - House Me Teenage Rave - YouTube
[01:18:11] <crutchy> wonder if it can't write the settings file
[01:18:23] <crutchy> aye focker!
[01:18:28] <crutchy> ~time-prefs format c
[01:18:29] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:18:33] <crutchy> ~time
[01:18:34] <exec> Saturday, 17 September 2016 @ 11:18 am AEST - Melbourne VIC
[01:18:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Aye, bastard!
[01:19:08] <crutchy> ~weather-prefs color 0
[01:19:09] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:19:11] <crutchy> ~weather-prefs color 4
[01:19:13] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:19:17] <crutchy> ~weather
[01:19:18] <exec> 4Melbourne VIC - currently 16°C, mostly sunny, wind N at 35 km/h, humidity 68% - Saturday mostly sunny (11°C:19°C), Sunday showers (7°C:12°C), Monday mostly cloudy (9°C:16°C), Tuesday rain (8°C:18°C)
[01:19:22] <crutchy> hmm. that works
[01:19:28] <Ethanol-fueled> ~weather el centro, ca
[01:19:30] <exec> 10El Centro, CA, USA - currently 99°F / 37°C, sunny, wind SE at 5 mph, humidity 11% - Friday clear (68°F:100°F / 20°C:38°C), Saturday sunny (72°F:105°F / 22°C:41°C), Sunday sunny (77°F:107°F / 25°C:42°C), Monday mostly cloudy (75°F:102°F / 24°C:39°C)
[01:19:54] <Ethanol-fueled> it will overnight cool down to freezing...just watch.
[01:20:20] <Cmn32480_phone> ~weather
[01:20:21] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[01:22:25] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:24:13] <Bytram> ~weather riyadh
[01:24:15] <exec> 10Riyadh Saudi Arabia - currently 84°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind S at 0 mph, humidity 20% - Saturday sunny (81°F:108°F), Sunday sunny (78°F:109°F), Monday sunny (76°F:105°F), Tuesday sunny (77°F:103°F)
[01:24:21] <Bytram> ~weather new delhi
[01:24:22] <exec> 10New Delhi, Delhi, India - currently 81°F, fog, wind S at 0 mph, humidity 84% - Saturday sunny (77°F:97°F), Sunday sunny (77°F:96°F), Monday sunny (78°F:96°F), Tuesday sunny (79°F:97°F)
[01:24:39] <Bytram> ~weather south pole
[01:24:40] <exec> south pole temp: -66 °F
[01:25:18] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:25:19] <dogbox> ^ 03Green Jelly (live) - Misadventures of Shitman - 10-09-08 - YouTube
[01:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[01:26:50] <Cmn32480_phone> ~weather cmn32480
[01:26:52] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 71°F / 22°C, cloudy, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 58% - Friday partly cloudy (65°F:76°F / 18°C:24°C), Saturday mostly sunny (72°F:82°F / 22°C:28°C), Sunday partly cloudy (73°F:85°F / 23°C:29°C), Monday scattered thunderstorms (70°F:83°F / 21°C:28°C)
[01:27:13] <Cmn32480_phone> great night for s'mores and a good stiff drink around the fire
[01:30:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, I'm two months' away from a stiff drink by the fire.
[01:31:11] <Ethanol-fueled> 'Tis painful.
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[01:36:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Wins Massive Contract to Help Power the California Grid - http://sylnt.us - tesla-unplugged
[01:52:24] <swiss> ^ can't wait for that, should mean fewer power outages
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[02:06:52] <SoyCow4122> http://www.cnbc.com
[02:06:52] <dogbox> ^ 03Trump camp denies report that he would consider Peter Thiel for Supreme Court
[02:06:53] <SoyCow4122> http://money.cnn.com
[02:06:54] <dogbox> ^ 03Peter Thiel denies he's talking to Donald Trump about Supreme Court job - Sep. 15, 2016
[02:08:05] <SoyCow4122> NCommander: They have both denied it. Why is this still pending?
[02:11:22] * Bytram suspects something along the lines of: considering that the PATRIOT ACT was not about protecting patriots (as one of many examples), could it be that when a politician says one thing, they often mean the opposite?
[02:13:27] <crutchy> i'm pretty sure the naming of US legislation usually has no bearing on its actual purpose
[02:13:44] <crutchy> they just give them nice sounding names to appease the masses
[02:13:52] <crutchy> (that they are sure won't read them)
[02:14:44] <SoyCow4122> Bytram: so, publishing every stupid rumour about a politician these days? Abandoning all pretense of nerdy topic matter?
[02:15:21] <Bytram> the story already mentioned that there is doubt as to the veractiy of the claims, and I have added the links you provided to the story.
[02:15:28] <Bytram> and, if you read the
[02:15:48] <Bytram> founding docs for this site, there is no claim that it is to be exclusively 'nerdy'
[02:16:34] <SoyCow4122> right, I wouldn't want it exculsively nerdy (not one of those extremists) but this is getting out of hand -- 5 non-nerd per week is probably ideal
[02:16:34] <Bytram> I'm tired and I've not had a full night's sleep in over two weeks... am gonna call it a night.
[02:17:06] <Bytram> well, you'll have to find someone else to deal with it. just before you posted your last comment, I posted:
[02:17:08] <Bytram> I'm tired and I've not had a full night's sleep in over two weeks... am gonna call it a night.
[02:17:14] <crutchy> wtf is a non-nerd article anyway?
[02:17:23] <crutchy> aren't nerds allowed to be interested in politics?
[02:17:27] <Bytram> probably something about sex.
[02:17:29] <Bytram> =)
[02:17:30] <crutchy> lol
[02:17:47] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[02:17:51] <SoyCow4122> crutchy: not science, tech, or similar
[02:18:04] <crutchy> seems pretty vague to me
[02:18:17] <SoyCow4122> sure, life can be vague
[02:18:30] <crutchy> so why try to pigionhole it?
[02:18:37] <Bytram|away> SoyCow4122: I'll be looking at the story queue tomorrow AM, please feel free to submit some 'nerdy' stories -- donot get me wrong, I like nerdy stories, too!
[02:18:41] <crutchy> embrace the vague!
[02:18:51] <Bytram|away> ~gnight all
[02:18:53] * exec accidentally violates a pair of used panties full of dianetics with all
[02:19:00] <crutchy> ~g'night Bytram|away sir o/
[02:19:02] * exec ceremoniously embiggens an assfull of prizes, prizes, pr'zises! with Bytram|away
[02:20:02] <crutchy> SoyCow4122, if you join #rss-bot there's a bunch of rss feeds that spew out links to common nerdy story sites. feel free to submit away
[02:20:20] <crutchy> tbh i'm kinda over hearing about iphones and climate change
[02:24:45] <Cmn32480_phone> We all are.... but I can't edit from my phone....
[02:25:06] <Cmn32480_phone> if exec ever get working on the wiki again
[02:25:22] <Cmn32480_phone> we can sub from.arthur
[02:26:12] <crutchy> i had a bit more of a tinker last night. decided to start again from scratch and just focus on a really simple proof script to work out the kinks in the basic token authentication stuff that seems to be giving me the shits the most
[02:26:45] <crutchy> i'll hop into it again in a little while
[02:34:48] <Cmn32480_phone> swell. yer a good man Charlie brown
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[03:26:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Google Tax' Already Being Avoided, Says Australian Tax Office - http://sylnt.us - accountants-legally-accounting
[03:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> too much caffeine. gonna be up a lil while yet
[03:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for some brewster's millions
[03:48:49] <crutchy> ~buzzkill
[03:48:50] <exec> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[03:49:02] <crutchy> ~socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[03:49:04] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[03:49:07] <crutchy> :p
[03:49:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist crutchy
[03:49:08] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[03:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ever seen brewster's millions, crutchy?
[03:54:11] <crutchy> nop
[03:55:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> knowing what i do of your politics, i'd say you would love it.
[03:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g brewster's millions
[03:56:05] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org's_Millions_(1985_film) - "Brewster's Millions is a 1985 comedy film starring Richard Pryor and John Candy based on the 1902 novel of the same name by George Barr McCutcheon."
[05:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Donald Trump Wants Peter Thiel on the Supreme Court - http://sylnt.us - open-up-libel-laws
[06:47:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solar Sinter: Using Solar and Sand for 3D Printing on Site - http://sylnt.us - glassy-eyed
[07:49:21] <chromas> http://arstechnica.com
[07:49:21] <dogbox> ^ 03Russia bans Pornhub, YouPorn—tells citizens to “meet someone in real life” | Ars Technica
[07:49:29] <chromas> In Russia, monkey spank you
[08:25:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mystery of Colourful Giant Plants of the Subantarctic Solved - http://sylnt.us - turning-over-a-new-leaf
[08:56:56] <SirFinkus> I've been promoted!
[08:57:09] <SirFinkus> I'm running the mixing board tomorrow
[08:58:05] <chromas> Those are fun
[09:04:34] <SirFinkus> they are
[09:04:42] <SirFinkus> only fucked up once, but a minor fuck up
[09:11:20] <crutchy> ~g'day SirFinkus
[09:11:22] * exec whole-heartedly farts a massive fart a crust of money at SirFinkus
[09:11:33] <crutchy> oook
[09:11:35] <chromas> fart a crust?
[09:11:39] <crutchy> fiik
[09:11:41] <crutchy> lol
[09:11:41] <chromas> needs hyphens
[09:11:53] <chromas> like hide-a-bed
[09:12:04] <crutchy> i dunno how the script works
[09:14:49] <SirFinkus> what do you want crutchy
[09:15:10] * SirFinkus turns crutchy down in the mix
[09:15:30] * chromas presses crutchy's solo button
[09:20:24] <crutchy> ♪ i'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt, and my butt smells... and, i like to kiss my own butt ♪
[09:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> well shit. one of my upstream providers is down. can't get to huge chunks of the net.
[09:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> including here, except by phone.
[09:54:50] <SirFinkus> you're up late TheMightyBuzzard
[09:54:51] <SirFinkus> or early
[09:55:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> an hour early. couldn't sleep.
[09:56:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paypal Wants to Become Your Daily Money Habit - http://sylnt.us - hand-it-over
[09:59:43] <SirFinkus> ahh
[10:00:14] <SirFinkus> tomorrow is gonna suck
[10:00:23] <SirFinkus> not going to even get home unti llike 4 am
[10:02:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch, that's 7h past my bedtime
[10:08:24] <SirFinkus> and then I have to get up at 8 am the following day
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[10:29:26] <SirFinkus> http://www.msnbc.com is this real life
[10:29:27] <dogbox> ^ 03Trump employs symbols of America's racist fringe | MSNBC
[10:30:43] <SirFinkus> tears in my eyes
[10:34:52] <chromas> lol racis
[10:35:21] <SirFinkus> the media just simply doesn't understand lulz
[10:35:54] <chromas> makes it so much funnier
[10:35:56] <chromas> pep on tv
[10:35:58] <chromas> pepe
[10:38:19] <chromas> almost choked on my toast
[10:38:32] <chromas> thanks a lot, photo of trump kissing pepe doll
[11:37:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Census Bureau Releases Disturbingly Rosy Household Income Report - http://sylnt.us - where's-my-trickle-down?
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[12:48:27] * NCommander broke the 4k mark
[12:59:14] <chromas> You could turn it into a book
[13:00:09] <chromas> SoylentNews Presents Hacking DOS, an NCommander novel
[13:00:21] <chromas> or Tyler Perry's Meet the Soylents
[13:00:25] <NCommander> chromas, I doubt there is much market for it unfortunately
[13:00:33] * NCommander really wish he could get a job doing retro stuff
[13:04:48] <pinchy> making dos programs?
[13:06:04] <NCommander> pinchy, doing retro computing stuff.
[13:06:19] <NCommander> pinchy, I'm very good at these type of specialist work, but I very rarely get a chance to do any of it.
[13:08:32] <pinchy> i take it doing web programming would be a death sentence for you?
[13:09:03] <NCommander> pinchy, I can do it, I did most of it for SN back at golive, and a ton since (such as the Apache 1.3 -> 2 port). I suck at website design though.
[13:09:41] <chromas> you could port SN to perl 6
[13:09:57] <chromas> and nosql cloudscale
[13:12:02] <NCommander> chromas, fuck perl 6
[13:12:07] <NCommander> chromas, and postgresql for life
[13:12:36] <chromas> Well I'll triple your pay if you port to postgresql then
[13:17:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - VR's 2D Surprise, and Virtual Reality at the Tokyo Game Show - http://sylnt.us - augmented-unreality
[13:19:30] <NCommander> chromas, 3*0 = 0
[13:19:30] <NCommander> :/
[13:19:41] <chromas> Ssshhh
[13:20:05] <chromas> Okay, make that 6*
[13:21:27] * chromas tacks on a couple zeros
[13:35:03] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[13:35:37] <Bytram> funny you are talking about web site design -- I'm looking at a 6-page web site developed with MS Office. :P
[13:35:59] * chromas weeps for humanity
[13:37:57] <Bytram> make that 8 pages -- and all formatting is done with <font> and <elementname style="foo"> techniques
[13:38:13] <Bytram> oh, and a nice dollup of <center> tags, too.
[13:39:08] <Bytram> did I mention it uses windows-1252 charset, and is MS's flavor of XML?
[13:40:02] <chromas> Seems like WordPerfect would be ideal for web pages since it's already tag-style markup
[13:40:53] <Bytram> chromas: you have a point
[13:41:04] * chromas presses alt-F3 to reveal codes
[13:41:18] * Bytram learned HTML before there *was* html -- used a 'word processor' that was SGML-based
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[13:51:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Good Morning.
[13:51:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Chingon Gueys
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[13:55:47] * Bytram gets error dialog: msvcr100.dll is missing from your system. bah.
[13:58:03] * Bytram finds: http://www.microsoft.com
[13:58:04] <dogbox> ^ 03Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update from Official Microsoft Download Center ( http://www.microsoft.com )
[13:58:11] * TheMightyBuzzard cheers the return of the internet
[14:00:00] * Bytram begins a ping flood of buzz's IP addr just to say Hi!
[14:01:00] * Bytram already HAS msvcr71.dll, msvcr110.dll, AND msvcr120.dll
[14:04:31] * Bytram figures what's another couple of files... downloads both x86 and x64 variants
[14:13:42] * NCommander needs an editor :)
[14:13:54] <NCommander> Bytram, I broke the 4k word mark.
[14:14:23] <Bytram> so, is that 8KB or 16KB? ;)
[14:14:38] * Bytram is unsure how large an int NC is using.
[14:14:41] <NCommander> Bytram, depends on the architecture word size
[14:14:43] * NCommander ducks
[14:14:50] * Bytram quacks
[14:16:48] <Bytram> NCommander I'd noticed you were working on a novel... wanted to wait 'til I was sure you'd finished with your writing
[14:17:01] <NCommander> Bytram, novel probably the right way to put this
[14:18:25] <Bytram> idea: split it into two (or more) parts and release separately? /me has not yet looked at said novel
[14:18:43] <crutchy> ~g'day NCommander
[14:18:45] * exec irresponsibly passes a hashtable of shame to NCommander
[14:18:48] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram
[14:18:50] * exec slowly hallucinates a gallon of Subsentient's salty neckbeard with Bytram
[14:18:54] <crutchy> o.O
[14:19:03] <Bytram> urg.
[14:19:03] <NCommander> Bytram, feel free to look at it and see if its dividable. Most of the word count is due to code though
[14:19:32] <Bytram> oh. ok. /me dons protective gear and flashlight (does not want to be eaten by a grue)
[14:19:48] <Bytram> s/flashlight/torch/
[14:19:48] <sedctl> <Bytram> oh. ok. /me dons protective gear and torch (does not want to be eaten by a grue)
[14:21:32] <NCommander> We could probably split it on the section between interrupt handling and FreeDOS installation
[14:22:51] * Bytram notes NCommander found a way to upload and link to images in a story
[14:23:01] <NCommander> Bytram, that's been a thing for the last year
[14:23:18] <NCommander> Got implemented with rehash
[14:23:25] <NCommander> Or more specifically, got fixed with rehash
[14:23:33] * Bytram recalls trying it long long ago and came up empty -- umm, was prolly before rehash, IIRC
[14:25:08] <Bytram> nc "And with that, 73 de NCommander!" ?? /me no understand
[14:25:33] <NCommander> Bytram, 73 is ham speak: http://ham.stackexchange.com
[14:25:34] <dogbox> ^ 03jargon - Why do hams often conclude messages with "73"? - Amateur Radio Stack Exchange
[14:25:44] <Bytram> clicky
[14:25:46] <NCommander> Bytram, seemed appropiate since I was asking for community help with ham stuff
[14:26:33] <Bytram> I wonder if there are any maker spaces and/or ham 'rallies' in your area?
[14:26:57] <NCommander> Bytram, the ham community in NYC seems non-existant. Not hugely surprising because this is radio hell due to all the steel in buildings
[14:27:15] <Bytram> Doh! makes sense
[14:27:38] * Bytram clicks preview on story and stands back from kbd
[14:28:57] * Bytram adds link to http://www.signalharbor.com around the signoff.
[14:28:58] <dogbox> ^ 03On the Origin of "73"
[14:30:18] * Bytram takes a short break; biab
[14:32:11] <NCommander> Bytram, thanks
[14:32:19] <NCommander> Yeah, I had a fair bit of fun writing this
[14:33:06] <takyon> that's funny, I had a fair bit of fun writing on this: https://soylentnews.org
[14:33:07] <dogbox> ^ 03SN article: VR's 2D Surprise, and Virtual Reality at the Tokyo Game Show 04(7 comments)
[14:33:28] <takyon> that feel when the memes become true
[14:34:02] <NCommander> takyon, maybe I can convince some of the other editors to run their own topics of interest
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[14:34:22] <takyon> you mean original content?
[14:34:30] <takyon> like the series you are doing>
[14:35:29] <takyon> one thing I did want to see was the Book Club type thing
[14:35:35] * Bytram has ben seriously toying with the idea of doing a series on privacy
[14:35:39] <takyon> I'm not sure what happened to that
[14:35:58] <takyon> hey, Bytram, as long as you don't put the words "Business Intelligence" in your article
[14:36:10] <Bytram> not a problem!
[14:36:12] <NCommander> takyon, better than military intelligence
[14:36:13] * NCommander ducks
[14:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, you should do a wiki article on how to include and link to an image. i don't think anyone else knows how except possibly pj.
[14:36:24] <Bytram> ^^
[14:36:30] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ... you upload the file in rehash, and then <img src=*link*>?
[14:36:32] * takyon launches a precision drone at NCommander
[14:37:01] <takyon> I thought we never wanted to use the image functionality ever?
[14:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i mean i could do it ghetto and scp the file but i've never gotten it to work from dev the few times i've poked it with a stick.
[14:37:42] <Bytram> NCommander: TheMightyBuzzard: would appreciate it if one (or both) of you could take a look at this (I've answered to the best of my ability, but I need someone who understands it better to reply) https://soylentnews.org
[14:37:43] <dogbox> ^ 03SN comment by [02martyb (76)] (02Score:2)
[14:37:44] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, might be a problem with the database. Blobs are stored in SQL
[14:37:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger
[14:38:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll figure it out one of these days i spose
[14:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that it especially matters. not an editor.
[14:38:49] <NCommander> Bytram, I'm deferring that to TheMightyBuzzard
[14:38:50] * NCommander runs
[14:38:53] <NCommander> I hate dealing with time zones
[14:38:57] * Bytram trips NCommander
[14:39:01] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, BTW, where's that site update you promised
[14:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> be coming one of these years
[14:39:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still got some debugging to do on comments but the code is written at least
[14:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> couple fencepost errors to chase down then it should be done. i'll hop on it prolly wednesday of next week after i get all relocated and resituated in OK
[14:41:22] <Bytram> NCommander: an idea... how much would an SDR dongle cost?
[14:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> was about to throw my vm and ssh privkey onto a usb key so i could monkey with it from any computer that can run virtualbox
[14:42:56] <NCommander> Bytram, 20-30 dollars. I have never worked with SDR though
[14:43:12] <NCommander> Bytram, for one that can do broadcast, I think they are more expensive, most of the HF ones start at like $200
[14:44:27] <Bytram> ahhh, didn't think of that. k.
[14:44:44] <Bytram> NCommander: PM
[14:44:51] <NCommander> Bytram, ?
[14:44:57] * NCommander hasn't gotten a PM
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[14:55:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Strange Brews: Making Beer with Boston River Water - http://sylnt.us - I'll-drink-to-that
[15:08:03] <NCommander> So drinking that beer makes you into a red socks fan who thought the Big Dig was a well managed project?
[15:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, got my privkey n vm all socked away in an encrypted archive on a thumb drive. here's hoping the TSA don't ask for the pw cause it's not gonna happen.
[15:34:26] <mecctro> just bring some bottled boston river water, and unleash it on them if they ask for pw.
[15:34:34] <mecctro> coffee++
[15:34:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2870
[15:35:23] * NCommander feels oddly drained
[15:35:34] <NCommander> Curious how many more articles I'm going to write
[15:35:46] <NCommander> Then might move onto something much more weirder. OS/2 maybe
[15:36:08] <mecctro> OS/2 is weird?
[15:36:14] <mecctro> well, I guess now maybe
[15:36:44] <NCommander> mecctro, well, OS/2 is basically the operating system that was meant to make the 80286/80386 work at full power, and uses things like hardware task switching
[15:37:06] <NCommander> (part of the reason its a nightmare to virtualize. It's the only production OS that I'm aware of that actually uses the Intel ring security features)
[15:37:49] <mecctro> There are a lot of issues with attempting to virtualive it, or any of the OS/DIGITS
[15:37:50] <mecctro> lol
[15:37:53] <NCommander> mecctro, the other idea I had was to dig out classic Mac OS and write some extensions, but that's a little obsecure even for me. I don't even know where I could possibly track down the 68k version of MPW or CodeWarrior
[15:38:44] <NCommander> mecctro, anything that does something odd in protected mode like multiple GDT segments, or using LDT tends to break most virtualization stuff. VirtualBox is probably running the pack right now, I've heard OS/2 1.x will actually work since it supported emulated 286 LOADALL
[15:38:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, could always do something for a VAX
[15:39:16] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, hardware quicksort and hardware calculate CRC
[15:39:22] <NCommander> God that architecture fucking weird
[15:39:54] <NCommander> quite a few people tried to port Linux to it and failed miserably
[15:40:04] <NCommander> Doesn't help that GCC's support for VAX at best is 'spotty'
[15:40:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> even better, plenty of quirks to lengthen the novel
[15:40:32] <mecctro> lol
[15:41:09] <mecctro> I had never heard about VAX before coming here, so I have no-idea.
[15:41:35] <mecctro> just never run into it "in the wild"
[15:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't since my bbs days. almost ended up buying one back around 2k though for kicks.
[15:43:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the trivia note, openvms is working on an x86 release
[15:44:01] <mecctro> well, that would might give me the oomph to fiddle.
[15:44:11] <mecctro> maybe*
[15:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, s'what i was thinking
[15:44:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> load up a vm and write a bot that runs from it
[15:45:22] <mecctro> I'd be interested to dig-in, having never played with it, but a lil bot port would probably be funny.
[15:47:37] <mecctro> so there roadmap is aiming for 2018 for x86
[15:47:39] <Bytram> I dunno about the VAX, but DEC's MACRO11 assembler was a joy to behold -- consistent instruction set / operand nomenclature.
[15:47:41] <mecctro> their*
[15:49:08] <Bytram> the operator, e.g., "ADD" was *always* "ADD", if the operands referenced different kinds of things, well, the OPERAND's reference clearly pointed out what kind of operand it was.
[15:49:32] <mecctro> nice
[15:49:51] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I heard about that. Maybe I should shoot them an resume
[15:49:56] <NCommander> Won't mind getting into OS development
[15:50:13] <Bytram> let's just say that IBM's 360 principles of operation reference was a *pain* after seeing MACRO-ll
[15:51:31] <mecctro> NCommander: I don't see how it could hurt, worst case OpenVMS implodes.
[15:53:03] <mecctro> (financially)
[15:54:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, actually sounds fun
[16:15:37] * NCommander just ate a bunch of hummus and chips
[16:15:39] <NCommander> mmm
[16:36:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lauri Love to be Extradited to the U.S. - http://sylnt.us - on-extraditing-Love
[17:08:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, just gotta take the cast net out my tackle backpack and put the stuff that's gonna get checked with it in, pack up the clothes n toiletries i'm taking, and i should be good to go.
[17:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet zombie jebus, they got me going all the way to charlotte nc then back to tn for the return trip
[17:11:48] <mecctro> gonna have a lovely time!
[17:13:39] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[17:14:32] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: have a safe trip -- hope your arms don't get too tired with the extended journey. ;)
[17:14:44] <Bytram|away> gtg -- laters all!
[17:14:56] <mecctro> peace Bytrame
[17:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.reuters.com
[17:20:06] <dogbox> ^ 03Race tightens in projected U.S. Electoral College vote: Reuters/Ipsos| Reuters
[17:25:08] <mecctro> I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton took PA (at least in my local area, a lot of typical Clinton rhetoric)
[17:26:19] <mecctro> Local news has all but outright smeared Trump here, especially for his visit.
[17:26:38] <cmn32480> `chuck
[17:26:38] <argute> Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
[17:26:47] * NCommander might try writing an application for the Apple Lisa ...
[17:26:52] <NCommander> Talk about your obsecure hardware platforms
[17:27:44] <mecctro> sounds vaguely familiar NCommander... I'm certainly no Apple buff, though.
[17:27:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't that the first computer sold with a mouse?
[17:27:57] <NCommander> mecctro, the Lisa was basically a proto-Mac
[17:28:02] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I believe so
[17:28:06] <mecctro> ah, ok
[17:28:17] <NCommander> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:28:18] <dogbox> ^ 03Wiki: Apple Lisa
[17:28:19] <cmn32480> and they sold about 7 of them I think
[17:29:14] <mecctro> horrendous
[17:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> well xerox made them with mice before but they weren't exactly home use computers
[17:29:50] * cmn32480 thinks that NCOmmander is either expanding his horizons or a glutton for punishment...
[17:30:14] <NCommander> cmn32480, I made SN out of a pile of 7 year old abandon perl
[17:30:16] <mecctro> I vote for expanding horizons of punishment.
[17:30:17] <NCommander> What do you think :P
[17:30:30] <cmn32480> glutton for punishment
[17:30:34] <NCommander> */tongue in cheek*
[17:31:32] <mecctro> that might be a little less obscure, to be fair lol
[17:32:15] <cmn32480> I'm pretty sure, that some of the things you do violate the 8th Amendment
[17:32:23] <NCommander> mecctro, to put it in context, lisa supports Pascal, Basic, and COBOL as development environments
[17:32:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we should go evolutionary for one of the next updates. maybe port everything to fastcgi
[17:32:39] <cmn32480> you know... the one about cruel and unusual punishments
[17:32:59] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I'd like that. We could get off the Apache upgrade train and go to nginx
[17:33:02] <cmn32480> make that bitch run on Windows!
[17:33:11] <NCommander> cmn32480, probably doable with cygwin ;.;
[17:33:24] <mecctro> where there's a will...
[17:33:27] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, honestly, I'm wondering how hard it would be to make rehash accept markdown for articles
[17:33:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, and really we could make it largely webserver variety independent since a LOT of them run fastcgi
[17:33:54] <mecctro> indeed
[17:34:12] <cmn32480> mecctro - where tehre is a will there is usually a dead guy
[17:34:31] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, rehash would suck considerably less for long comments and articles if we had markdown ... and maybe syntax highlighting :)
[17:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, not terribly really but i dislike markdown as a general rule. it screws with stuff i meant to look like i wrote.
[17:34:40] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, well add it as a choice
[17:34:50] <mecctro> cmd32480: a guy equipped with body armor, dead in a term tomb...
[17:35:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, that is highly doable. think there's already a lib for markdown even.
[17:35:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> looked into it like a year n change ago but didn't think to make it its own mode.
[17:35:50] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I may be tempted to add this: https://github.com
[17:35:51] <dogbox> ^ 03GitHub - google/code-prettify: Automatically exported from code.google.com/p/google-code-prettify
[17:36:04] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, should degrade nicely to stock HTML in case !JS blocked
[17:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake NCommander
[17:36:18] * MrPlow smakes NCommander upside the head with a halfbrick
[17:36:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> we just now getting rid of the last of the user-side js and you wanna add new?
[17:36:55] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, we have optional user-side JS :P. Improved commenting anyone
[17:37:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but that's going poof since we redid it in css
[17:37:31] <NCommander> Purely in CSS?
[17:37:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> purely. we are ninjas.
[17:37:40] <NCommander> Won't that break people with non-stock stylesheets
[17:37:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> shouldn't, no.
[17:38:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it might look like butt but it should function.
[17:39:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it's live on dev right now if you wanna take a gander
[17:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[17:39:36] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, huh, I wonder if SN will let me do syntax highlighting in an article
[17:39:37] <dogbox> ^ 03A Pressing Question: Why Did You Lurk? - Dev.SN
[17:39:39] * NCommander found a nifty tool
[17:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it doesn't, it should.
[17:40:29] <NCommander> well I damned
[17:40:32] <NCommander> It kinda worked
[17:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just a db setting you can tweak though. i just never bothered to figure out the syntax.
[17:40:39] <NCommander> Linebreaks got fucked up
[17:40:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> tweakable
[17:43:00] <NCommander> Got it work
[17:43:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoov
[17:45:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, whatcha think about adding a textbox what lets users store their own custom CSS to be included for them on all SN pages?
[17:45:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> custom mini-theming sort of thing
[17:46:43] <NCommander> As long as we don't accidently cause a XSS
[17:46:44] <mecctro> I replace all the CSS on the site now, so it would help me, but not sure who else would find it useful...
[17:46:56] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, ugh, this online hilighter has some issues
[17:47:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, it would need to be thoroughly bytram'd
[17:47:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mecctro, could lead to custom css sharing too
[17:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> though most folks just stick with the red cause they're AC
[17:48:24] <mecctro> There's certainly niftyness afoot, but XSS would scare the daylights out of me.
[17:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> even if it did allow js, i'm coming up blank as to how it could be used against anyone besides yourself unless you socially engineered them to use your malware as their user.css
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[17:50:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> which you can frankly do now. you just have to get them using greasemonkey or the like as well.
[17:51:27] <NCommander> Rehash is putting spashes in shitty places
[17:51:30] <NCommander> *spaces
[17:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, it shouldn't allow any scripting in it at all. which it wouldn't come to think of it since we'll be running CSP by then.
[17:52:21] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, any idea how to make the editor less stupid w.r.t putting random spaces in (not that <pre> ever worked well)
[17:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, yeurg, that's the js area of evilness. i try to avoid it if at all possible.
[17:53:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> but the spaces are prolly added in the perl so it shouldn't be all that difficult. would start tracing it down in admin.pl but it's prolly in.... Environment.pm
[17:55:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke. bout time to go shopping for groceries i'm not going to be here to eat. see you lot after while.
[17:56:43] <NCommander> hrm
[18:00:53] * NCommander isn't going to bother with trying to syntax hilight
[18:01:08] <mecctro> alright buzz, catch ya around.
[18:06:23] <mecctro> I have no idea how rehash works... any gotchas before blindly trying to waddle my way through master branch?
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[18:17:00] * mecctro waddles away
[18:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> mecctro, it's generally best to start at the top-level script, find the sub you're wanting to change, and open whatever file it's in for further chasing or editing.
[18:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> grep -rIHn 'sub foo' /home/dingus/rehash/ ftw
[18:29:01] * TheMightyBuzzard scoots out grocery shopping after having made his list
[18:29:25] <mecctro> I'll keep it in mind buzz, good luck with the shopping.
[18:30:01] <cmn32480> !woopShipyard Pumpkinhead Ale in stores!
[18:30:08] <cmn32480> !woop
[18:30:08] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[18:32:02] <mecctro> sounds good, love me some pumpkin ale
[18:33:17] <mecctro> is it good compared to other pumpking beers?
[18:33:34] <mecctro> pumpkin*
[18:36:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New ISO Standard Explains how to Kind-of Ignore Standards - http://sylnt.us - standard-meta-standard
[20:01:26] * mecctro should have looked at INSTALL, dur
[20:08:55] <pinchy> emerge pumpkin beer
[20:35:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 6.6 Million Plaintext Passwords Exposed as Site Gets Hacked to the Bone - http://sylnt.us - pass-the-salt
[20:55:07] <pinchy> http://indie88.com
[20:55:08] <dogbox> ^ 03The Filthy Aftermath of Music Festivals | Indie88
[21:02:09] <chromas> Dirty hippies
[21:02:40] <chromas> Cleanup crews should collect the tents and resell them at the next fest
[21:05:56] <mecctro> it is pretty gross
[21:12:52] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[21:17:10] <boru> That's a disgrace.
[21:19:07] <Bytram> there's a long, storied tradition of such a mess -- witness what happened at 'Woodstock'
[21:19:16] * Bytram goes to make dinner
[21:19:25] <chromas> He killed Snoopy?
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[21:19:48] <boru> Yeah, indeed.
[21:20:11] <SoyCow4698> gotta question
[21:21:13] <SoyCow4698> a
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[21:24:19] <mecctro> mhm?
[21:25:19] * mecctro shrugs
[21:26:16] <boru> Must've gone on a quest to seek the answers.
[21:28:54] <mecctro> sounds tolkien-esque
[21:29:43] <boru> Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
[21:30:21] <mecctro> except those gray ones.
[21:33:11] <mecctro> http://www.foxnews.com
[21:33:12] <dogbox> ^ 03Stop the insanity! High school football fans told to stop chanting USA, USA | Fox News
[21:34:26] <chromas> xenophobic racis drumpf supporters, they are!
[21:45:34] <pinchy> good, maybe they will stop attending and stop the sport altogether
[21:46:57] <pinchy> http://i.4cdn.org
[21:47:15] <mecctro> lol
[21:49:10] <pinchy> i wanna be an ALT-righter when I grow up
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