#Soylent | Logs for 2016-09-22

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[00:17:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lobbying Results in FDA Approval for Controversial Drug - http://sylnt.us - false-sense-of-hope
[00:37:34] <chromas> from the they're-Addyi-again dept
[01:19:49] <cmn32480> blessings of all.. my kids were in bed by 8:30
[01:19:59] <cmn32480> shhhh... hear that?
[01:20:03] <cmn32480> me neither!
[01:24:45] <cmn32480> pumpkinhead_ale++
[01:24:45] <Bender> karma - pumpkinhead_ale: 1
[01:37:39] <SirFinkus> gross
[01:37:41] <SirFinkus> fuck you cmn32480
[01:37:44] <SirFinkus> you have terrible taste
[01:37:52] <cmn32480> only pumpkin beer I like
[01:38:02] <cmn32480> go fuck a dead bot
[01:38:20] <SirFinkus> already did
[01:38:23] <SirFinkus> a few actually
[01:38:30] <cmn32480> was it as good for the bot as it was for you?
[01:38:58] <chromas> it had no complaints
[01:38:59] <SirFinkus> I hope not
[01:39:18] * cmn32480 wonders if Sirfinkus used his teeny tiny digital penis
[01:39:53] <cmn32480> so anyway...
[01:40:02] <cmn32480> hows things SirFinkus?
[01:40:12] <SirFinkus> meh, you?
[01:40:15] <cmn32480> looks like you are kicking some wiki as
[01:40:17] <cmn32480> s
[01:40:22] <cmn32480> busy as shit
[01:40:29] <SirFinkus> lol not really
[01:40:36] <SirFinkus> I just do a few pages a day
[01:40:42] <cmn32480> work found out I couldn't travel and basically hit me w/ a clue by four
[01:41:05] <cmn32480> couple pages a day is WAY more love than the wiki has seen since launch
[01:41:13] <chromas> They just need to buy you a one-foot segway
[01:41:27] <cmn32480> I tried that...
[01:41:33] <cmn32480> owners wouldn't go for it
[01:41:52] <chromas> what about a walmart scooter?
[01:42:01] <cmn32480> a rascal?
[01:42:06] <SirFinkus> naw, the wiki got a lot of "love" at launch, which is half the problem
[01:42:10] <cmn32480> they bitched about the cost of getting it wher I'm going
[01:42:22] <SirFinkus> the awkward pawing of teenaged lovers
[01:42:36] <cmn32480> ROFL
[01:42:42] <cmn32480> so accurate as to be scary
[01:45:14] <SirFinkus> like, what the actual fuck is this?
[01:45:15] <SirFinkus> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[01:45:16] <MontyPascal> ^ 03Wiki: Banner Ads
[01:45:21] <SirFinkus> people were using it as a forum
[01:45:36] <SirFinkus> I mean, this is archived from the forums
[01:45:41] <SirFinkus> but there are other pages like this
[01:46:22] <cmn32480> we HAD a forum
[01:46:26] <cmn32480> at one point
[01:46:27] <SirFinkus> or random parts in other pages that will just have <someasshole>:<someshittysuggestion> and then discussion afterwords
[01:46:34] <SirFinkus> I checked and it's gone
[01:46:38] <SirFinkus> thank god
[01:46:40] <cmn32480> long long ago
[01:46:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smart Energy Revolution 'Could Help to Avoid UK Blackouts' - http://sylnt.us - powerful-story
[01:46:53] <cmn32480> the site klind of removes the need for it
[01:47:06] <SirFinkus> I recoiled in horror when I noticed the links to it
[01:47:13] <cmn32480> it was integral in the beginning for people to toss out ideas and have them be seen
[01:47:20] <SirFinkus> figuring it had been forgotten about and was full of guymen by now
[01:47:26] <cmn32480> whereas IRC the ideas drop into the ether
[01:47:40] <SirFinkus> which is odd, because I remember being here since damn near the beginning
[01:47:45] <cmn32480> it died shortly after or shortly before launch
[01:47:53] <SirFinkus> must have been very shortly
[01:48:32] <cmn32480> it was a quick out of the box implementation where a discussion thread could go up and people could throw a shitton of ideas at it
[01:48:48] <SirFinkus> then people just used the wiki for that
[01:48:50] * SirFinkus sighs
[01:49:20] <cmn32480> after the site went live, (but before I got on staff) there was a discussion about it, and the intent of the entire site was kinda like a forum, so it was shit canned
[01:49:57] <cmn32480> actually, what I think it was was people copy/pastaing from the forum to the wiki for idea preservation
[01:51:37] <cmn32480> the forum and IRC were where the site came to life..
[01:52:31] * cmn32480 intones in a John Cleese like voice
[01:52:45] <cmn32480> InN the beginning there was AltSlashdot
[01:53:40] <cmn32480> and from the ashes of perl code older than most of the project managers, sprang forth new life at the hands of NCommander
[01:54:25] <cmn32480> I do beleive that NC says it was his own fault... he spoke up when somebody asked if anybody had ever played with the source
[01:57:28] <cmn32480> it is really a rather heartwarming tale
[01:59:51] * SirFinkus warms his cockles
[02:00:12] <cmn32480> i thought the dead bots handled that for you
[02:01:12] <SirFinkus> they've cooled down by now
[02:01:16] <SirFinkus> you really need a fresh one
[02:02:54] <SirFinkus> fucking
[02:03:04] <SirFinkus> sites with webfonts and javascript dependencies
[02:03:13] <SirFinkus> that load so you can read the article
[02:03:33] <SirFinkus> but then load some other bullshit 30 seconds later
[02:03:34] <SirFinkus> and reflow the entire page
[02:03:35] <SirFinkus> fucking DIE
[02:03:36] <SirFinkus> DIE
[02:03:37] <SirFinkus> DIE
[02:04:21] <cmn32480> no argument here
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[02:06:33] <cmn32480> thank Primus... only one more section of the warehouse to figure out cables for
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[02:09:34] <SirFinkus> did someone say primus? https://www.youtube.com
[02:09:34] <MontyPascal> ^✓ 03Primus - Southbound Pachyderm - YouTube
[02:10:40] <cmn32480> it was actually a transformers reference... but that may be speddled primas
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[02:56:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Building a Wireless Micromachine - http://sylnt.us
[03:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Approach to Dynamically Tune how a Catalyst Operates - http://sylnt.us - like-a-video-card-drive
[05:07:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - To Catch A Mosquito - http://sylnt.us - a-splat-is-no-longer-enough
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[06:36:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Diamond Proves Useful Material for Growing Graphene - http://sylnt.us - I-was-wondering-what-to-do-with-them
[06:52:30] <FatPhil> coffee++
[06:52:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2878
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[08:16:13] * Deucalion has just cracked a cold beer at ~9am - that feels decadent even for me, but I have just got in from working all night so somehow it also feels OK #conflicted
[08:18:59] <mecctro> beer at 9am? sounds ackward
[08:19:05] <Deucalion> SirFinkus, I'm with you on that annoyance that is sites that keep reflowing the page as they slowly load shite in from all over the place. Kinda get halfway into reading the first paragraph of actual content... and blam, the page jumps around and you have to start scrolling down again to find your place. Had one the other day that was doing it 4 or 5 times on every page about 10 seconds apart..... I gave up *grrr*
[08:19:39] <Deucalion> eh - couple of cold ones then I'll be sleepy bye-bye most of the day
[08:20:06] <mecctro> Not a fan of JS (especially lib heavy) requiring pages.
[08:20:19] <mecctro> or jenky moving/sloshing/tossing themes
[08:20:47] <mecctro> I mean, I'm not even entirely sure what "reactive" themese are, they've been around since css! lol
[08:20:54] <mecctro> themes*
[08:21:12] <mecctro> can't imagine they would go well with beer at 9am either
[08:25:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Digital Photography: The Future of Small-Scale Manufacturing? - http://sylnt.us - for-some-values-of-small-scale
[08:27:56] <Deucalion> it's a nightcap as far as I'm concerned :P Just waiting for all the neighbours to stop clunking around on their way out to work then I'll hit the sack
[08:28:14] <chromas> and then you'll go to bed
[08:29:22] <Deucalion> *badum-tish* will you be here all week chromas? should I remember to tip the waitress too? :D
[08:29:46] <mecctro> lol
[08:29:54] <chromas> We don't do tip pooling so don't worry about her
[08:30:16] <mecctro> xD
[08:30:23] <chromas> or wait
[08:30:26] <chromas> do give her the tip
[08:30:35] <Deucalion> just the tip?
[08:30:55] <chromas> just the tip
[08:31:24] * Deucalion wonders if it can go down from here
[08:32:09] * Deucalion headdesks - course it can.. chromas is present and correct :P
[08:32:16] <chromas> If she really likes you
[08:33:55] <Deucalion> Welllll... how could she not? Perfect specimen that I am
[08:34:05] <Deucalion> specimen of what I'm not sure mind
[09:56:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Damage Suppressor" Gene Found in Tardigrades, Inserted into Human Cells - http://sylnt.us - Shields-up!
[10:09:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:09:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2879
[10:12:18] <Deucalion> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[10:12:19] * exec unjustifiably blows a tinfoil hat of tagnuts at TheMightyBuzzard
[10:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Deucalion
[10:13:10] * exec unnecessarily experiences a shoe of windows nt with Deucalion
[10:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather 74872
[10:13:19] <MrPlow> Today: Plenty of sunshine. High 91F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Tomorrow: Sunny, along with a few afternoon clouds. High 89F. Winds S at 10 to 15 mph.
[10:14:48] <Deucalion> mecctro's been up to something with his fork of rehash and was talking about it in #dev - beyond my ken, something to do with the install script by the look of it. I'm sure they'd appreciate a code savvy someone to respond in some way. That's not me :)
[10:15:20] <Deucalion> Annnndd... you're already there
[10:15:35] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard++ always the morning person
[10:15:35] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 259
[10:15:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm handy like that, even when i'm out of pocket
[10:15:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> amphetamines++
[10:15:49] <Bender> karma - amphetamines: 11
[10:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of out of pocket, i'm headed out fishing at the top of the next hour
[10:16:55] <Deucalion> On that note... I'm effin off to bed now the neighbours have all effed off to work and the place is quiet. Red Bull fuelled overnight working will be the death of me.
[10:17:17] <Deucalion> Good luck with the fooshes
[10:17:24] <Deucalion> and g'night
[10:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Deucalion
[10:18:03] * exec covertly heaps a snatched purse full of battery acid on Deucalion
[10:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> little overzealous there, exec
[10:18:55] <Deucalion> mebbe a tad. :)
[10:19:05] <Deucalion> Be well feathered one
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[11:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft to "Solve the Problem of Cancer" Within Ten Years - Scientists are Skeptical - http://sylnt.us - giving-BSOD-a-whole-new-meaning
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[12:17:14] <cmn32480> ~uid
[12:17:16] <exec> The current maximum UID is 6357, owned by polo
[12:17:20] <cmn32480> ~gdat TheMightyBuzzard
[12:17:42] <cmn32480> good luck fighting the scaly invaders
[12:17:47] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:17:52] * exec ceremoniously hallucinates a dumpster full of embiggening with TheMightyBuzzard
[13:15:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Simultaneous Radio Xmit/Receive, on the SAME Frequency - http://sylnt.us - stop-interrupting-me
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[13:59:39] <khallow> howdy
[14:23:55] <cmn32480> ~gday khallow
[14:23:57] * exec single-handedly queefs a +1 mace of windows me at khallow
[14:27:06] zz_janrinok is now known as janrinok
[14:27:18] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[14:27:20] * exec hurriedly hucks a shot of political correctness at cmn32480
[14:30:25] <cmn32480> ~gday janrinok
[14:30:27] * exec sneakily refactors a trunk of adhesive medical strips for janrinok
[14:30:39] <cmn32480> be careful today...
[14:30:45] <janrinok> because...?
[14:30:46] <cmn32480> Collhand is on a coffe spilling spree
[14:30:51] <janrinok> ah
[14:30:52] <cmn32480> he already ruined one keyboard
[14:30:55] * janrinok ducks
[14:31:02] <cmn32480> the results are in #editorial
[14:31:05] <janrinok> df;lj poidf; doiujp
[14:31:13] <cmn32480> it is certainly written in typo
[14:31:31] <janrinok> it looks like you typed it with a normal keyboard
[14:46:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brian Krebs' Blog Hit by 665 Gbps DDoS Attack - http://sylnt.us - whole-lot-of-nothing-going-on
[14:47:11] <cmn32480> I typed with a norlal keyboard... he required translateion
[14:47:52] <khallow> reminds me of the time a PC in a university lab was used to take down Hawaii for a little while
[14:48:18] <cmn32480> like the whole state?
[14:48:20] <khallow> someone apparently set up a warez site
[14:48:25] <khallow> like the whole state
[14:48:35] <khallow> it'd be back in 1998 or 1999
[14:48:41] <cmn32480> ~nelson Hawaii
[14:48:42] <exec> 03Hawaii: HA! HA!
[14:48:54] <khallow> and drama happened
[14:49:12] <khallow> apparently kicking the offender off was not good enough
[14:49:29] <cmn32480> police?
[14:49:32] <khallow> so the warez admin did a ping of death
[14:49:40] <cmn32480> DOH!
[14:49:42] <khallow> which happened to be a destination in hawaii
[14:50:08] <khallow> the pipe to Hawaii at the time wasn't big enough
[14:50:18] <khallow> hilarity ensued
[14:50:19] <cmn32480> probably still isn't
[14:50:40] <cmn32480> that's excellent
[14:50:58] <cmn32480> that's what happens when the whole sate is run on a 2MB DSL line
[14:51:42] <janrinok> sometimes I think that I am on the end of 665Gbps DDoS, but then I remember it's my crap connection
[14:52:06] <cmn32480> khyber's famous 400TB DDoS
[14:52:19] <cmn32480> he does that with his AC LED's
[14:52:35] <janrinok> I don't remember that one ...
[14:53:05] <janrinok> I recall him setting up his LEDs
[14:56:31] <cmn32480> he was a piece of work
[14:56:57] <cmn32480> the DDOS was after you went to bed at your customary 3:30pm Eastern
[14:57:28] <cmn32480> it was a late night (likely drunken) rant about how we were censoring him after he got really uppity on IRC and was quieted for a few mintues
[15:07:35] <khallow> "AC LED"?
[15:08:03] <cmn32480> yes khallow
[15:08:07] <cmn32480> you read that correctly
[15:08:21] <janrinok> yeah, two strings of LEDs, each biased in the opposite direction, with enough LEDs to drop the mains voltage
[15:08:33] <janrinok> that was the theory at least
[15:09:41] <khallow> On a scale of WFT to I don't even I'm... not quite sure what you're talking about
[15:09:55] <khallow> er WTF
[15:11:48] <janrinok> he must have gone through thousands of LEDs, each hand soldered, into chains of LEDs trying to do whatever it was he was trying to do ...
[15:13:05] <janrinok> I was going to say 'it kept him quiet' - but it didn't. He was a good laugh though
[15:13:21] <khallow> hmmm, so I guess your mental failwaves were disrupting his glorious device
[15:14:38] <janrinok> I recall him saying that he had done something wrong on one occasion when I think he was surrounded by a chain of smoking LEDs, but that is too long ago now to recall the details
[15:14:53] <cmn32480> it was a short snippet of time where you had an entire channel of people reading the screen and collectivly say "WTF???????"
[15:16:35] <khallow> I see google came to my rescue on that
[15:16:39] <khallow> what a guy
[15:18:50] <janrinok> he was certainly a great help to the LED manufacturers
[15:19:18] <janrinok> wherever he got his LEDs from, somebody, somewhere, was paying something for them ...
[15:19:44] <cmn32480> yeah... that was hilarious
[15:19:55] <cmn32480> it has been a running joke here for a couple years
[15:20:26] <janrinok> we need a few more oddballs like him around
[15:21:10] <janrinok> cmn32480, did khyber work in dev, sysadmin or was he just someone who appeared on here most evenings?
[15:21:18] <khallow> I could probably lure over Quantum Apostrophe with well placed stories about space travel and 3D printing
[15:21:37] <cmn32480> janrinok - you mean in RL?
[15:21:49] <janrinok> no, within SN
[15:21:57] <cmn32480> nope
[15:22:09] <cmn32480> he was never anythgin but comedy relief
[15:22:14] <janrinok> I'm at that age when everything is getting vague ...
[15:23:15] <khallow> particularly "that age" eh?
[15:23:24] <janrinok> yep :)
[15:23:32] <cmn32480> we figured this out yesterday... janrinok is 27
[15:23:40] <cmn32480> years older than dirt
[15:23:53] <janrinok> years older than even old dirt
[15:24:35] <khallow> the dirt probably went through a few cycles as rock
[15:25:00] <janrinok> I can remember being 27, I had just left Berlin to begin aircrew training
[15:25:23] <janrinok> back when Berlin was still in East Germany and divided by a wall
[15:25:50] <khallow> 27 was a long time ago for me
[15:25:53] <khallow> maybe
[15:26:25] <janrinok> I think that I have a son who is older than cmn32480
[15:26:26] <khallow> I was two years into my first feeble attempt at a PhD
[15:26:31] <khallow> it was not glorious
[15:26:40] <janrinok> they are the best attempts
[15:27:22] <khallow> I think my achievement of that time was to solidify my position as second place on the Foresight Exchange
[15:27:31] <khallow> play money betting market
[15:28:04] <khallow> www.ideosphere.com
[15:28:18] <khallow> it's almost as dead as a doornail
[15:28:24] <janrinok> see, you made a name for yourself!
[15:28:25] <khallow> supposedly someone is still trading on it
[15:28:43] <khallow> indeed
[15:28:53] <khallow> actually got a job out of it with HP
[15:29:17] <cmn32480> upi calling me a young 'un janrinok?
[15:29:17] <janrinok> can't be all bad then
[15:30:21] <janrinok> I wish that knowledge and wisdom came with age, all I've got is experience (but not always good experience)
[15:30:36] <khallow> yesterday night I kept seeing piles of elk
[15:30:55] <janrinok> you must stop smoking that stuff ....
[15:30:56] <khallow> all on the road going "What are you doing here?"
[15:31:08] <khallow> smoked elk isn't bad
[15:31:10] <cmn32480> cut down on the booze
[15:31:17] <mecctro> sounds like good ol's sexual repression to me.
[15:31:34] <khallow> probably, they're leaving rut
[15:31:50] <khallow> and decided that wandering on a dark road is a good idea
[15:32:19] <janrinok> I somehow think that cmn wasn't referring the elks' sexual repression ...
[15:32:36] <khallow> he's a mean person MEAN
[15:32:47] <janrinok> that's him to a T
[15:33:14] <janrinok> he has even stopped his children kicking his injured ankle - what kind of dad does that?
[15:33:18] <cmn32480> I dind't say ANYTHIGN about sexual repression
[15:33:28] <cmn32480> but mecctro makes a valid point
[15:33:39] <mecctro> I was going with the freidian angle
[15:34:01] <cmn32480> a fraudian angle... interesting...
[15:34:09] <cmn32480> will that help figure out the hypotenuse?
[15:34:11] <mecctro> I mean, cmon, a naked elk, in the middle of the middle of the night, in some alley?
[15:34:17] <mecctro> I think I know what I'm hearing
[15:34:27] <khallow> they do... you know...
[15:34:39] <khallow> looking kinda sexy with the lights out
[15:34:48] <mecctro> hair blowing in the wind
[15:34:50] <janrinok> I agree with you mecctro - but I wrongly blamed cmn32480 for that comment. All the rest of the nasty things I said about him are true though
[15:35:08] <khallow> two wrongs and all that
[15:35:26] <cmn32480> two wrongs don't make a right!
[15:35:44] <mecctro> #yt Elk scream
[15:35:45] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[15:35:59] <mecctro> coming from the alley
[15:36:01] <khallow> I disagree. I have the schematics for an assembly line that manufactures rights out of pairs of wrongs. Patent pending
[15:36:21] <janrinok> will you eventually open source it?
[15:37:54] <mecctro> call it rain-maker
[15:37:59] <cmn32480> khallow - will that assemnbly line make AC LED's too?
[15:39:04] <khallow> sure, with some fine tuning and erm, a little funding
[15:39:41] * cmn32480 whips out his SoylentNEws credit card adn watches it melt
[15:39:41] <mecctro> to the tune of five hundred, easy payments, of only $9.99?
[15:40:15] <mecctro> I think you may have a new sham-wow
[15:41:20] <cmn32480> khallow's assembly line is 50% more efficient than the reguilar way of making rights out of wrongs
[15:41:34] <cmn32480> it usually takes 3 lefts...
[15:41:54] <khallow> Hmmm, I may be able to tune it so that I can increase production of rights by 20%
[15:41:59] <mecctro> It's 4/3rds premium orange onlyish juice?
[15:42:15] <khallow> with real fruit added sometimes!
[15:42:20] <janrinok> yes, but it is also completely orange free - how cool is that?
[15:42:35] <mecctro> uses orange "extractives"
[15:42:38] <mecctro> ;)
[15:42:51] <khallow> I hate to say it, but elk bull may have the moves, the rack, and the squeal
[15:43:03] <khallow> but elk bull don't have the babes.
[15:43:06] <mecctro> Sounds like a typical teenager
[15:44:22] <khallow> it's all location location location
[15:44:31] <janrinok> coming up to pizza time here, will have to go shortly!
[15:45:14] <khallow> 9:48 collected the "babes present" achievement
[15:45:21] <cmn32480> home made pizza?
[15:45:36] <janrinok> no, today is the only day of the week that I don't do any cooking
[15:45:38] <cmn32480> khallow - that certainly wasn't in this channel
[15:45:53] <cmn32480> janrinok++
[15:45:54] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 41
[15:45:56] <cmn32480> good
[15:46:15] <cmn32480> S is obviously not cracking the whip hard enough
[15:46:30] <janrinok> not today, but she makes up for it every other day ;)
[15:46:47] * cmn32480 vaguely recalls sunday being the day of rest
[15:47:22] <khallow> cmn - elk bull is too busy to post in channel
[15:47:25] <janrinok> I rest, but I still cook
[15:48:08] <janrinok> get him a pizza, he can relax after he has done his manly duties with a cigarette and a slice
[15:48:41] <cmn32480> but no beer...
[15:48:45] <cmn32480> slave driver
[15:48:48] <FatPhil> ANyone a python guru, I'm trying to learn the language (so I can help a friend learn the language), and am hitting some confusing behaviour
[15:48:55] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[15:49:13] <mecctro> shots of vodka and bacon ;)
[15:49:13] <cmn32480> you just missed him
[15:49:14] <janrinok_afk> FatPhil, can I help, although I don't claim to be a guru but I do write Pyhton
[15:49:38] <cmn32480> but be careful.. his typos are killer
[15:49:39] <FatPhil> It's a simple question, focused on the question "are lists iterable?"
[15:49:49] <janrinok_afk> yep they are
[15:50:00] <janrinok_afk> for item in list should work
[15:50:22] <FatPhil> And you can create a tuple from an iterable thing?
[15:50:49] <janrinok_afk> yep - are you Python 2 or 3, or you asking in general?
[15:51:14] <FatPhil> Ah, I'm in 2.7 presently, but I should upgrade as I think he's learning 3
[15:51:24] <FatPhil> lol = map(range, range(1,5))
[15:51:36] <FatPhil> type(lol)
[15:51:45] <FatPhil> tuple(lol)
[15:51:53] <FatPhil> TypeError: 'list' object is not callable
[15:52:02] <janrinok_afk> I've got to dash, will you be on here in about an hours time?
[15:52:21] <FatPhil> I can check out any time, but I can never leave
[15:53:03] <janrinok_afk> I'll ping you later
[15:54:05] <FatPhil> cheers
[15:54:50] <FatPhil> In the meantime, I'll leave you with some unicode paedophilia: http://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com
[15:55:15] <FatPhil> Thanks, Unicode Consortium, the world really needed that.
[16:03:55] <khallow> night sorta
[16:04:04] <cmn32480> ~gnight khallow
[16:04:06] * exec theoretically passes a drawing of gold nuggets to khallow
[16:04:07] <mecctro> ~gnight khallow
[16:04:09] * exec accidentally rubs a snatched purse full of shitty wall on khallow
[16:04:10] <cmn32480> remember to dream of AC LED's
[16:04:28] <khallow> duplex
[16:04:33] -!- khallow has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[16:26:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Testing Cars and Roads that Talk to Each Other - http://sylnt.us - SIGINT
[16:52:30] -!- sea [sea!~sea@2600:3c03:e000:zyl:z::i] has joined #Soylent
[17:09:36] janrinok_afk is now known as janrinok
[17:09:40] <janrinok> FatPhil, ping
[17:11:40] <cmn32480> janrinok pong
[17:11:48] <janrinok> cmn32480, hi
[17:11:55] <cmn32480> how was your glutenous gluttenous pizza?
[17:12:16] <janrinok> brilliant - very hot and spicy, will probably burn twice!
[17:12:27] * cmn32480 is jealous
[17:42:29] <mechanicjay> I just got this crazy urge to build a SIM type game but like for the USS Enterprise.
[17:44:01] <janrinok> well, don't let us stop you.
[17:44:19] <mechanicjay> Well, I'm not a game dev, wouldn't even know where to start.
[17:44:44] <janrinok> lol, sounds like you might have a bit of an uphill battle ahead of you
[17:45:08] * mechanicjay hands janrinok "Understatement of the Day" award
[17:45:14] <janrinok> :)
[17:49:24] <mechanicjay> Like, I'm sure I could do it, I'd just need to take a couple years off work to figure it all out ;) Anyone want to be an Angel Investor?
[17:49:51] * chromas invests 10,000 internets
[17:50:00] <cmn32480> USS Enterprise the spaceship? or the Aircraft carrier?
[17:50:33] * janrinok offers 10,000 more
[17:53:32] <mechanicjay> SPACESHIP!
[17:54:38] <mechanicjay> alright, 20K internets! Anyone have the current internets->USD exchange rate handy? I can't seem to find it on google.
[17:55:23] <janrinok> I don't think it is very much - internets are very undervalued in my opinion
[17:57:57] <mechanicjay> hrmph
[17:59:01] <mechanicjay> I couldn't probably slap together a zork type game.
[17:59:45] <mechanicjay> Oh prototype, with all the right software interfaces, logic, AI etc. Need help on GUI stuff
[18:00:15] <mechanicjay> "You are standing on the Bridge of the USS Enterprise. There is a captains chair in front of you."
[18:01:03] * mechanicjay notes his concept is already muddles since this is no longer SIM type game in the style of SIMCity which is what he initially thought of
[18:01:10] * mechanicjay should get the hell back to work.
[18:02:52] <chromas> Do a TNG point 'n' click. Click a few things. 10 minutes of dialog. Click a few things. more dialog
[18:03:48] <boru> A B5 game would be far superior.
[18:06:41] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[18:06:58] <Bytram> boru: B5? You sunk my battleship!
[18:07:16] * Bytram waves at mechanicjay and cmn32480 and tries to catch up on backscroll
[18:07:29] <chromas> Don't read it
[18:07:35] <chromas> They're totally shittalking you
[18:07:43] <Bytram> ~blame
[18:07:45] * exec points at Bytram
[18:07:50] <Bytram> yeah, I know!
[18:07:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - USS Zumwalt Breaks Down During Sea Trials - http://sylnt.us - don't-be-so-sad
[18:07:52] <cmn32480> it's your own fault
[18:07:56] <mechanicjay> lulz
[18:08:05] <Bytram> nah, that's janrinok's gig!
[18:08:09] * Bytram waves at janrinok
[18:08:29] <cmn32480> mechanicjay - you are gonna need more tahn 20k internets for the licensing fee.
[18:08:53] <Bytram> one more and he'd have blackjack... that should be worth something!
[18:08:56] <Bytram> nograb
[18:09:09] <mecctro> I'll byte, as usual
[18:09:15] <Bytram> lol
[18:09:20] * mecctro screams HIT ME!
[18:09:29] <Bytram> #smake mecctro
[18:09:29] * MrPlow smakes mecctro upside the head with an ugly stick
[18:09:33] <Bytram> happy?
[18:09:49] * mecctro runs, muttering something about ninjas.
[18:10:11] <mecctro> That damn ace, I miss it everytime...
[18:10:12] <Bytram> teenage turtles, more likely
[18:10:53] <chromas> now that you mention it, there was talk of pizza earlier
[18:11:10] <mecctro> the end is nie
[18:11:19] <Bytram> pizza? now /me is hungry and realizes he skipped breakfast.
[18:11:29] <mecctro> coffee++
[18:11:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2880
[18:11:38] <chromas> make some breakfast pizza
[18:11:51] <mecctro> just live off coffee and hate, like me.
[18:11:52] <Bytram> mecctro: are you referring to the "Knights that say Ni!"?
[18:12:07] * Bytram would hate to live off just coffee
[18:12:18] <chromas> that's where the hate comes in
[18:12:32] <mecctro> hate doesn't have many calories or nutrients either, but it's a strong force.
[18:12:39] <chromas> part of a complete breakfast
[18:12:42] <Bytram> mecctro++ you got that right
[18:12:43] <Bender> karma - mecctro: 1
[18:12:47] <mecctro> you could say it's... THE force
[18:13:01] <mecctro> do you have the shwartz?
[18:13:02] <Bytram> mecctro++ and this is for your stellar work on the site's code!
[18:13:02] <Bender> karma - mecctro: 2
[18:13:18] <mecctro> ah, did you break that yet?
[18:13:36] <Bytram> nope, just observing from the sidelines... VERY impressive!
[18:13:43] <Bytram> really glad to have you aboard!
[18:13:57] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[18:13:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2881
[18:13:58] <mecctro> Glad to be a part of this low-hanging fruit-force
[18:14:17] <mechanicjay> mecctro++
[18:14:17] <Bender> karma - mecctro: 3
[18:14:26] <Bytram> so many choices on how to go with THAT one...
[18:14:33] <mecctro> ;')
[18:14:44] <Bytram> the puns, they rite themselves
[18:15:10] * janrinok waves back at Bytram
[18:15:28] <Bytram> janrinok: !!
[18:15:34] <janrinok> Bytram, !!
[18:15:37] * Bytram is never gonna catch up on scrollback at this rate!
[18:15:39] <Bytram> =)
[18:15:44] <Bytram> so good to 'see' you!
[18:15:54] <janrinok> I was busy posting in between your posts :)
[18:15:55] * mecctro watches the lines scroll-past like the sand-of-time.
[18:16:29] <Bytram> like the 'Days of our LIves'
[18:16:35] <Bytram> janrinok: yes, i noticved.
[18:16:47] <mecctro> These : are the days of our nies.
[18:16:52] <janrinok> you've been taking typing lessons from cmn32480
[18:17:10] <mecctro> 'school of qarty.
[18:17:18] * Bytram had a VERY full schdule the past few days, didn't have barainpower to chat and do stories at same time, just just pushed 'em out.
[18:17:25] <Bytram> *brainpower
[18:17:27] <Bytram> ;)
[18:17:41] <janrinok> The TAILS story is only in there as a quickie - I know it is only 30 minutes after the last story that I put out. That is intentional
[18:17:53] <janrinok> you've been posting like mad!
[18:17:58] <Bytram> how much leeway afterwards would you recommend?
[18:18:07] <Bytram> I'm not mad, I'm happy!
[18:18:14] <janrinok> :)
[18:18:38] <janrinok> you are rapidly closing the gap - you will pass me before the end of October without doubt
[18:19:01] <mecctro> Sounds mystical
[18:20:26] <Bytram> nah... soon the really Really REALLY busy season will be upon me.
[18:20:48] <Bytram> from mid-october until well into Jan, I'll barely have time to make sure my head is still attached.
[18:21:12] * Bytram just pushed out another story
[18:21:24] <janrinok> I'm sure you will still contribute much more that I can achieve
[18:21:26] <Bytram> janrinok: please take a look at the story timing and let me know if you see any issues
[18:22:09] <janrinok> I'm just moving some now :)
[18:22:25] <Bytram> pshhhaw... I'm much in the shadow of one who not only pushed out stories, but wrote a boatload of 'em when the queue ran dry.
[18:22:29] <Bytram> k
[18:22:43] <janrinok> I blame Arthur for that ...
[18:22:48] * Bytram wishes there were a way to *safely* manipulate just the story timings.
[18:23:02] * Bytram blames janrinok for Arthur
[18:23:05] <Bytram> ;)
[18:23:06] <cmn32480> get mecctro to write it
[18:23:19] <cmn32480> he can do it in Perl 6... just to piss off TMB
[18:23:23] <janrinok> can we afford him - that's a lot of internets
[18:23:41] <Bytram> problem is locking -- how to *safely* do it with others, potentially editing one (or more) of the stories at the same time.
[18:23:44] * cmn32480 has a bunch of internets stashed under his desk
[18:23:58] * Bytram sneaks over and takes one while cmn32480 is not looking
[18:24:13] * cmn32480 notes that he is now one short of a bunch
[18:24:16] <mecctro> lock-field in SQL?
[18:24:19] * Bytram is trying to cut down on his usage to avoid his bandwidth cap
[18:24:22] <mecctro> no race-condition?
[18:24:35] <mecctro> possibly
[18:25:03] <mecctro> I'll look at ACL, I have no idea how perms work (yet)
[18:25:07] <Bytram> I've been pondering it for a LONG time... nothing I can think of that would work short of locking out ALL other editors from doing anything, and not allowing rescheduling while any other story is "in the works"...
[18:25:08] <Bytram> but
[18:25:26] <Bytram> there is no way (that I am aware of) to know when other stories are 'in the works'
[18:25:28] <Bytram> :(
[18:25:36] <mecctro> Doesn't it send them to "tasks"
[18:25:42] <Bytram> for example, i could open a submission...
[18:26:04] <Bytram> look at it with the intent to post it to the site, and then decide not to run it. atm
[18:26:16] <Bytram> there is no need/mechanism to flzg that I am no longer in the story.
[18:26:21] <Bytram> I could as easily just
[18:26:26] <Bytram> close a browser tab
[18:26:37] <Bytram> which would leave any locks active indefinitely
[18:26:38] <Bytram> OR
[18:26:52] <Bytram> I could be reseearching a story and spend an hour tracking down other stories, so
[18:27:03] <Bytram> a timeout on that is not a safe solution, either.
[18:27:16] * Bytram is not sure of the internals... these are just my
[18:27:26] <Bytram> observations using the story editing tools we have
[18:28:33] <mecctro> I'm not sure either, but if you submit a feature request, someone might get around to it.
[18:28:44] <Bytram> OTOH, there is the technique of saving a time stamp of when the story is loaded by an editor for possible posting, and then
[18:29:13] <Bytram> if anything (big warning) changes underneath it subsequent to that time stamp and before hitting save, then forbid the save...
[18:29:21] <Bytram> and then it starts getting quite interesting in
[18:29:32] <Bytram> trying to decide how the UI should handle THAT.
[18:29:33] <Bytram> :/
[18:29:55] <janrinok> well, nothing catastrophic can happen. At worst, we get 2 stories that are due to go out in quick succession
[18:30:05] <Bytram> mecctro: true, that. but I prefer to submit such things with alittle more meat to guide them along a path that would be acceptable.
[18:30:14] <Bytram> janrinok: hmmm
[18:30:24] <Bytram> not sure about that
[18:30:33] <Bytram> I look at story queue,
[18:30:38] <mecctro> indeed, I'm just saying, before you forget about ;)
[18:30:40] <Bytram> grab a submission and start to work on it.
[18:30:41] <chromas> use the javascripts
[18:30:54] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[18:30:54] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a special snowflake
[18:30:56] <mecctro> chromas xD
[18:30:57] <Bytram> janrinok: for example, goes out and reshedules stories,
[18:31:16] <janrinok> we have already had 2 people editing the same story - it gets messy but the system lives. And putting out 2 stories at the same time also is possible without any adverse effects
[18:31:17] <chromas> onUnload should fire when a tab is closed
[18:31:36] <Bytram> janrinok: hmmm, good point
[18:31:42] <mecctro> and what if it doesn't fire?
[18:31:59] <Bytram> Smokey the Bear will finish the edits?
[18:32:00] <chromas> then the site goes down
[18:32:03] <mecctro> lol
[18:32:04] <chromas> permanently
[18:32:12] <cmn32480> nobody gets burned?
[18:32:14] <janrinok> it would be _nice_ if we could solve the problem, but I don't think that it is something that needs to be near the top unless we have nothing else to work on
[18:32:28] <Bytram> yep
[18:32:45] <cmn32480> you mean we have to be careful what we are doing????
[18:32:59] <cmn32480> that is just outright unacceptable
[18:33:08] * cmn32480 goes looing for a safe space
[18:33:26] <janrinok> it is annoying, but it is ultimately up to us to manage it. Although cmn has a valid point (even half in jest)
[18:33:27] <mecctro> looing?
[18:33:29] <mecctro> ;)
[18:33:36] <Bytram> one things that would save a lot of time and work, though, is at least having the site suggest a release time that is, say, SEP_TIME+/-7 minutes after the newest, display=ON scheduled story.
[18:33:53] <cmn32480> yes mecctro.. I peed in the safe space...
[18:34:05] <cmn32480> after all, the bathroom is about the only place my kids won't find me
[18:34:06] <Bytram> SEP_TIME being a site variable that sets a default story separation time
[18:34:07] <mecctro> that's deep
[18:34:13] <chromas> time gets a checkbox. if it's unchecked then it doesn't get updated when the story's saved so time changes by someone else don't get undone
[18:34:49] <janrinok> I'm late for my last cup of tea of the day - brb
[18:35:10] <Bytram> still leaves issue of me trying to schedule a story time, and then finding out htat things have changaed around since I last looked....
[18:35:27] <chromas> more javascript ;)
[18:35:29] <Bytram> suppose there could be a warning? and there would still be the rescheduling tool to fix it.
[18:35:30] <Bytram> hmm
[18:35:34] <cmn32480> he's late! He's late! for a very important date! can't even say "hellop goodbye" he's late! he's late! he's late!
[18:35:47] <chromas> it updates the time in your browser whenever someone else changes it
[18:36:01] * Bytram seeks sustenance...
[18:36:03] <Bytram> biab
[18:36:10] * chromas follows the white bunny into the playbot mansion
[18:36:19] <cmn32480> I thoguht we had gotten rid of most of the JS in favor of CSS? or is that only in the main site, not the back end?
[18:36:20] <Bytram> !grab chromas
[18:36:20] <Bender> Added quote 775
[18:36:29] * mecctro follows the purple bunny down the rabbot hole
[18:36:37] <Bytram> cmn32480: there is some JS in the editor interface, IIRC
[18:36:37] <cmn32480> can't grab actions Bytram
[18:36:43] <Bytram> k
[18:36:51] <Bytram> okay, food time!
[18:36:52] * cmn32480 can't remember.
[18:36:54] <Bytram> laters.
[18:37:17] <janrinok> and there are times when you want a story to go out NOW regardless of what is happening elsewhere - Breaking, Site Down Time etc
[18:37:25] <chromas> last I heard admin/editors still get javascript, but I haven't seen it so I should shaddup
[18:37:44] <janrinok> I didn't know what to do with it when I had it ...
[18:39:18] <cmn32480> so we need takyon to program a "Now" button into his extension?
[18:39:51] <janrinok> Another thought - if we are going to be doing work on the editing process, it would be nice to actually improve the editor itself with Find/Replace, automatic formatting of <p> and <blockquotes>, and other such things
[18:40:44] <janrinok> Put all of Takyons greasemonkey scripting into the editor itself.
[18:41:15] <janrinok> I must confess, I would hate to have to edit without takyon's additional tools
[18:41:15] <cmn32480> golly... that'd be swell!
[18:41:26] <cmn32480> ^^^^^^^ AMEN!!!!!
[18:41:35] * Bytram uses just the base site code -- no extra scripts
[18:41:41] <cmn32480> ~blame
[18:41:43] * exec points at Bytram
[18:41:46] <chromas> showoff
[18:41:52] <cmn32480> no one to blame but yerself for that
[18:41:55] <Bytram> someone has to make sure that the base code still works as it should
[18:42:02] <mecctro> ^
[18:42:15] <janrinok> I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that I wouldn't want to do it again
[18:43:17] <Bytram> janrinok: IIRC there *is* a way to say that a story should go out RIGHT NOW -- it's the "Fastforward" checkbox that appears just to the right of the "Release Time" field. I've not used it, personally, but htat is my understanding of what it is for.
[18:43:51] <janrinok> Yes I know - it works well
[18:43:58] <Bytram> k
[18:44:06] <cmn32480> oh
[18:44:11] <cmn32480> is that wahat that button is for?
[18:44:17] <janrinok> I had to use it in anger the other day when I found the queue had run dry and I wanted to get a story out quickly
[18:44:17] * cmn32480 always wondered
[18:44:26] <Bytram> try it on dev =)
[18:44:30] * cmn32480 shows himself to the corner
[18:44:44] * Bytram had never tried it and was not willing to try it on the live site.
[18:44:44] <janrinok> I need to update the wiki to explain that button
[18:44:48] <Bytram> nice to know it works
[18:44:54] <janrinok> I just like to gamble!
[18:45:10] <chromas> poor box. checked in anger
[18:45:12] <janrinok> It does what it says on the tin
[18:45:19] <chromas> Or you could just change the label ;)
[18:45:36] <mecctro> ^
[18:45:43] <Bytram> like 'Release this RIGHT NOW!"
[18:46:05] <janrinok> I think that Fast Forward is OK, but perhaps Release Now might be better
[18:46:21] <chromas> There could also be a tooltip
[18:46:34] <Bytram> tip toe through the tool tips
[18:46:38] <janrinok> my mouse never stays still long enough for tooltips to pop up
[18:47:44] <Bytram> ouch.
[18:47:49] * chromas steadies janrinok's pointer
[18:47:51] <Bytram> what a mangled sentence in the TAILS story.
[18:48:02] <janrinok> which one - there are only 2!
[18:48:12] <Bytram> the 1st sentence
[18:48:21] <chromas> nah, the meaning is just encrypted for security
[18:48:26] <Bytram> the new version... announces ??
[18:48:34] <Bytram> and "it's" should be "its"
[18:48:46] <janrinok> yeah - I'll revisit it
[18:48:57] <cmn32480> janrinok - tell SirFinkus
[18:49:05] <cmn32480> all our wiki are belong to him
[18:49:13] <Bytram> The newest version of TAILS (gblah blah) has been announced:
[18:49:25] <mecctro> It's pretty simply to append the label "Release Now (fastforward)" || "fastforward Release Now]"
[18:49:30] <mecctro> or what-have-you
[18:49:31] <Bytram> janrinok: I'm 2nding the story right now... I'll take care of it.
[18:49:40] <janrinok> k thanks Bytram
[18:49:44] <Bytram> np!
[18:49:50] <mecctro> simple*
[18:50:20] <janrinok> I deleted the wall of text that was there but had a rethink during my editing - I think I got bits of both ideas muxed ip
[18:50:37] <janrinok> muxed it - intentional!
[18:50:46] <janrinok> muxed ip - intentional!
[18:50:46] * Bytram is no stranger to word soup.
[18:51:07] <Bytram> doesn't he want to build spaceships? Elon Muxed?
[18:51:08] <janrinok> I've joined cmn32480's typing class
[18:51:22] <cmn32480> shoot.. when I gon vacation you can teach it janrinok
[18:51:40] <Bytram> we'll tutor each other, there's always more to learn!
[18:52:01] <cmn32480> he Muxed be rich or crazy!
[18:52:52] <Bytram> could be both
[18:54:55] <Bytram> janrinok: YIKES! I looked at the original submission... hoo boy!
[18:55:02] <Bytram> thanks so much for the winnowing!
[18:55:31] <janrinok> I'll try to add to the submission queue tomorrow am then we might be able to get a head start on weekend posting
[18:56:36] <Bytram> the fewer stories that are in the sub queue, the more incentive there is for other folks to submit stories...
[18:56:50] * Bytram is trying to push out a bunch of stories atm
[18:57:05] <janrinok> yes, until it hits late friday night - and you realise that you now have to write them as well as post them!
[18:57:06] <mecctro> those sweet sweet e-points
[18:58:20] <Bytram> well, my hopes are that *other* people on the site notice a low sub queue and choose to submit more stories
[18:58:24] <janrinok> Bytram, we can always go back to the practice of hiding stories in the 'Hold' queue - where others cannot se them
[18:58:42] * Bytram never remembers to look there :(
[18:59:18] <mecctro> I have no desire to write, stories.
[18:59:30] <mecctro> so I appreciate what you guys do
[18:59:32] <mecctro> ;)
[19:00:03] * Bytram was never much a fan of writing in school, but now finds he is getting much better at it with practice... still doesn't come easily and naturally, but is much better than how things used to be.
[19:00:11] <janrinok> cmn32480, are we still keeping the subs from polo that are in the HOLD queue?
[19:00:22] <Bytram> MARCO!
[19:00:28] <cmn32480> TMB fixed his wagon
[19:00:46] <janrinok> I know that, but does he still want them?
[19:00:58] <cmn32480> no need
[19:01:05] <janrinok> going, going ...
[19:01:09] <cmn32480> GONE!
[19:01:22] <Bytram> lunch time; biab
[19:01:25] <janrinok> gone
[19:01:35] <janrinok> bye Bytram - cu tomorrow
[19:01:39] <Bytram> janrinok: nice chatting w/ ya! give my best to S.
[19:01:52] <mecctro> ~gnight Bytrammed
[19:01:54] * exec homogeneously heaps a hugbox of dogfart on Bytrammed
[19:01:57] <janrinok> thanks will do - she needs the moral support at the moment
[19:02:07] <Bytram> {{{ S }}}
[19:02:16] <janrinok> that will certainly help :)
[19:02:16] <Bytram> {{{ janrinok }}}
[19:02:23] <janrinok> ditto
[19:02:34] <Bytram> do take care of yourself, too, yanno?
[19:02:49] <janrinok> I do my best
[19:03:19] <Bytram> I can tell. ;)
[19:03:38] <janrinok> off with you, and get off my lawn too
[19:03:54] * Bytram fires up his weed wacker
[19:04:04] <Bytram> 2nding completed.
[19:04:08] <mecctro> need to shred those weeds
[19:04:09] <janrinok> is that something sexual...?
[19:04:16] <Bytram> laters!
[19:04:23] <janrinok> I'm sure the weeds appreciate it
[19:04:51] <mecctro> gotta slap'em around a bit
[19:05:18] <janrinok> time for me to go - nearly beddie-byes time
[19:05:38] * mecctro cringes
[19:05:54] <janrinok> ~gnight mecctro
[19:05:56] * exec hideously hurls a bongload of manpages at mecctro
[19:06:01] <janrinok> ~gnight cmn32480
[19:06:03] * exec suspiciously launches a tinfoil hat of No Mas! toward cmn32480
[19:06:03] <mecctro> ~gnight janrinok
[19:06:05] * exec seductively vomits a zfs volume of male tears on janrinok
[19:06:25] <janrinok> ~gnight Bytram - who is probably away now
[19:06:27] * exec carefully farts a massive fart a stash of rainbows at Bytram
[19:06:39] <mecctro> farts a massive fart of fart on fart
[19:06:44] <janrinok> lol
[19:07:01] <mecctro> that's how I read it, eithe way peace bruv
[19:07:06] <mecctro> either*
[19:07:23] <cmn32480> ~gnight janrinok
[19:07:25] * exec unnecessarily embiggens an animated gif of medium salsa with janrinok
[19:14:49] * janrinok likes salsa
[19:15:23] janrinok is now known as zz_janrinok
[19:45:54] <FatPhil> jeebus, you're a great big bunch of gasbags
[19:46:02] <FatPhil> did I miss anything while I was in the pubs?
[19:48:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup
[19:48:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> you missed the strippers
[19:51:58] <FatPhil> there were some feminists in a bad mood at the pub, so I saw the stroppers instead.
[19:56:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cops Ahead: Keep Calm and Remain Silent - http://sylnt.us - keeping-an-eye-on-big-bro
[20:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> feminists. in da pub. you just broke the UK for me.
[20:04:07] <cmn32480> FatPhil - it was the coleslaw from lunch that made us all gas bags
[20:26:58] <SirFinkus> cmn32480?
[20:27:08] <cmn32480> SirFinkus?
[20:27:13] <SirFinkus> you highlighted me
[20:27:59] <cmn32480> when?
[20:28:04] <SirFinkus> today I guess
[20:28:20] <SirFinkus> oh, apparently it was about janrinok
[20:28:22] <cmn32480> was it a wiki thing?
[20:28:36] <SirFinkus> maybe?
[20:28:37] <cmn32480> yes
[20:28:45] <cmn32480> read the back scroll and find out
[20:28:56] <cmn32480> or, do a search in the window for your name
[20:28:56] <SirFinkus> you can't just tell me?
[20:29:03] <cmn32480> if I remembered, I would
[20:29:05] * SirFinkus is lazy
[20:29:11] * cmn32480 is forgetful
[20:29:19] * boru is very handsome.
[20:29:32] <FatPhil> ahh, someone mentioned pubs and UK - 23 hours and counting....
[20:29:48] <SirFinkus> oh
[20:30:02] <SirFinkus> he doesn't need my permission to make edits to the wiki...
[20:30:31] * cmn32480 shurgs
[20:32:23] * TheMightyBuzzard is batman
[20:33:02] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard: s/batman/napman/
[20:33:02] <sedctl> <cmn32480> <TheMightyBuzzard> is napman
[20:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, fine idea. i could probably squeeze another in before dinner
[20:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> or i could watch the first episode of the lethal weapon series
[20:47:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat, damon wayans is playing murtaugh
[20:47:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't seen him in anything in a coon's age
[21:06:04] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com there's a joke in here somewhere
[21:06:05] <MontyPascal> ^ 03Polish Pilot lands plane without its wheels - YouTube
[21:12:09] * cmn32480 heads for home
[21:12:13] <cmn32480> see you all maybe later
[21:16:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Star Trek Fan Films May Not be Dead After All - http://sylnt.us - livin-la-vida-trek-a?
[22:07:09] <FatPhil> ANyone else consider the output of this command a bit surprising: $ echo -e "York\tGuzzler\nYorkshire Heart\tLightheart\nYork\tYorkshire Terrier" | sort
[22:22:50] <mecctro> I can see without running it that it might be a pleasant treat for some, and not for others
[22:23:56] <mecctro> all the guzzling, that is.
[22:25:17] * chromas doesn't geddit
[22:25:23] <chromas> ~define york guzzler
[22:25:25] <exec> york guzzler: unable to find definition
[22:25:59] <mecctro> not sure about the york, just not much of a guzzler myself.
[22:28:26] <mechanicjay> I'm with chromas....don't get it.
[22:29:26] <mecctro> either way, I'm not terribly surprised by the output, but it is a lil nifty.
[22:29:43] <mecctro> Does sort work line-by-line?
[22:29:58] <mecctro> (trying to formulate an idea of what it did that)
[22:30:03] <mecctro> why* ut
[22:30:04] <mecctro> it*
[22:30:05] <mecctro> ffs
[22:30:14] <chromas> The -e makes it interpret the \t and \n
[22:30:16] <chromas> so yeah
[22:31:29] * chromas tries xfce again; mouse wheel rolling still counts as button click
[22:31:30] <mecctro> pretty straight-forward
[22:31:33] <chromas> new gnome 3 out
[22:31:49] * mecctro shrugs at more gnome updates
[22:31:55] <mecctro> anything decent?
[22:31:59] <chromas> Love it, mister!
[22:32:28] <mechanicjay> gave up gnome years ago
[22:32:57] <chromas> More wayland support. File Manager supports mass renaming
[22:33:07] <mecctro> welcome to 1984
[22:33:58] <mecctro> I mean, I guess that's ok, just nothing to blow-buckets over...
[22:34:04] <chromas> the official irc client has support for 'pasting' images through imgur plus nickserv support
[22:34:15] * mecctro lels
[22:36:09] <mecctro> Isn't there a hook for waylaynd that allows "program sharing" through http?
[22:37:14] <chromas> Not sure. I've tried wayland a couple times. It's getting better but still has issues. Drawing, or forgetting to draw, for example
[22:37:36] * chromas gives it a go again
[22:37:40] <mecctro> ages ago, can't remember exactly was involved, but you could, for example: "serve" any application running gtk through a web-server, then operate it from there.
[22:37:51] * chromas adopts a cockney accent
[22:38:07] <mecctro> libreoffice, in a web-page, for instance.
[22:38:42] <mecctro> gonna transport wayland to the designated time at the designated place?
[22:40:57] <mecctro> gonna put wayland in your trunk and drive it to a russian arms-dealer?
[22:41:36] <chromas> That's mean
[22:41:42] <chromas> Even the Russians don't deserve that
[22:43:14] <mecctro> Gonna get chinese-poison injected, do drugs, have sex in public, all while rumbling with multiple crime-organizations, all to chase-down and kill wayland?
[22:43:30] <mecctro> I give up
[22:43:40] <mecctro> "cockney accent"
[22:43:45] <mecctro> transport
[22:44:22] <mecctro> -er
[22:44:30] * mecctro blinks
[22:46:38] <chromas> Nope. Still trash
[22:46:58] <chromas> Could just be KDE's implementation though
[22:47:36] * chromas tries Weston
[22:49:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[22:49:43] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a flying butt pliers
[22:50:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would you try a half-baked UI?
[22:50:51] <chromas> Informed mockery
[22:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, thas fine then
[22:51:40] <chromas> To be fair, I s'pose that means I should be testing guhnome as well. But no.
[22:51:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only wm worth a shit stock anymore is lxde.
[22:52:10] <chromas> gtk3 and its client-drawn titlebars can eat a whole bag of dicks
[22:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> and as a de it kinda blows, which is why i have frankende
[22:56:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dutch Brothers in Court for Bitcoin Mining With Stolen Power - http://sylnt.us - we'll-get-you-for-something
[22:59:56] * chromas installs lxqt onto tmb's box while he's out
[23:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! rollback, bitch. it's a vm.
[23:10:46] <chromas> I deleted your snapshot
[23:11:16] <chromas> Your desktop is a vm? I guess that makes gaming easier
[23:11:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, the one of my regular booty call chick's boobs?
[23:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> gaming, schmaming. i'm on vacation-ish.
[23:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> pet-sitting for my folks while they're off on their first vacation in a couple decades.
[23:12:47] <chromas> Right. That's why you're not home to protect your box
[23:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> decided it was less painful to build a vm i can live with than to use their winders desktop or my chicklet-keys-having laptop
[23:13:17] * chromas logs into steam, spams SJW nonsense on all the message boards in tmb's name
[23:14:01] <chromas> If you'd left your desktop on then you could forward X
[23:14:29] <chromas> the ideal situation for home internet connections
[23:14:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did but i'm not gonna make the pr0n stream all the way to TN then back to OK
[23:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been making it do my torrenting for me cause my isp gives not a fuck about the mpaa
[23:28:31] -!- MDC [MDC!~32f6f293@40-386-887-782-hedgum.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #Soylent
[23:29:12] <MDC> Greetings, Earthlings.
[23:29:58] <MDC> nobody home?
[23:30:07] <mechanicjay> Greetings MDC-lings.
[23:30:14] <MDC> hey
[23:30:32] <MDC> I really should be working but I really don't want to.
[23:30:36] <mechanicjay> ditto
[23:30:50] <mechanicjay> I'm running out of time-wasty things to do before I give up for the day and go home
[23:31:06] <MDC> that's my problem too
[23:31:36] <mechanicjay> kernel update applied to laptop: check. OSX 10.12 update applied to work laptop: check Watching updated compile on the gentoo desktop: in process
[23:32:27] <MDC> GCC isn't working in MinGW. I may know how to fix it but I can't be bothered to do so.
[23:32:27] <mechanicjay> eh, I burned pretty hard on today on a bunch of stuff. Not feeling about fucking off for a bit.
[23:32:50] <mechanicjay> *not feeling bad
[23:32:59] <MDC> If I can fix mingw I can port my product to windows
[23:34:26] <MDC> Once I get started working I usually enjoy it but I am reluctant to start
[23:36:45] <mechanicjay> Yeah, sometimes it's just impossible to get into the zone.
[23:37:26] <MDC> I've had this problem in a bad way for fifteen years.
[23:37:34] <MDC> A good part of why I was homeless
[23:38:47] <mechanicjay> I have a natural ebb and flow of productivity that seems to run in about 2 week cycles. I'm terrified that someday the flow won't come back
[23:39:19] <MDC> have you read "Flow: The Psychology Of Optimal Experience"?
[23:39:25] <mechanicjay> I have not
[23:39:46] <MDC> The author is a research psychologist who studies human enjoyment
[23:40:12] <MDC> He says most people are happiest when they are working on a task that is well-suited to their abilities
[23:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, MDC
[23:40:30] <MDC> hi
[23:40:42] <mechanicjay> Yeah, that seems fairly obvious.
[23:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm the same way. it helps if i jump in on it before i'm awake enough to figure out reasons not to.
[23:42:34] <MDC> I feel the need to check my email. I have three different accounts. Once I've checked the third, maybe something came in at the first
[23:42:57] <MDC> But it is quite uncommon that a quick response is really important
[23:43:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i cheat. i wrote a conky script to check my mail and throw the counts up on the screen.
[23:43:40] <MDC> that's a good idea
[23:44:44] <mechanicjay> TMB, yeah if I can jump into something I left waiting from the day before before I get mired down in email/IRC/SN/etc it's a big help
[23:45:10] <MDC> I do a lot better if I start working from the start
[23:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i needa jump back into the comments code but there's so much fishing needs done
[23:45:49] <MDC> It helps a lot to start with something dead simple
[23:46:01] <MDC> Like creating an empty source file
[23:46:17] <MDC> once I have that its easy to write just one line of code
[23:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, can't do that. comments code is kinda insane. gotta go in feet first.
[23:48:43] <MDC> MSys wants me to mount c:\mingw on /mingw
[23:49:03] <MDC> when I do, gcc won't start up apparently because it loads the wrong bit size of a dll
[23:49:21] <MDC> The DLLs are in the bin directories
[23:49:29] <MDC> so maybe if I adjust my path...