#Soylent | Logs for 2016-11-29
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[00:36:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - http://sylnt.us - see-what-they-did-there?
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[01:35:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> boru: Haven't had time/inclination, plus 27.0.0 had tons of problems, so waiting for that shit to quiet down. Also: 27.0.0 removed JetPack support, so a lot of extension broke.
[01:54:17] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[02:16:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alzheimer's Disease Proteins Linked to Vision Loss Among Older People - http://sylnt.us - we-can-see-clearly-now
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[03:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, bedtime!
[03:17:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:17:07] * exec faithfully flicks cream of butt butter at TheMightyBuzzard
[03:17:09] <cmn32480> #fite TheMightyBuzzard
[03:17:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:18:39] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
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[03:46:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - http://sylnt.us - getting-their-measure
[03:54:04] <cmn32480> ~last nick=Khyber
[03:54:07] <exec> 03[2016-11-28 09:19:0] #Soylent <KhyberLEDson> That ain't right
[03:54:15] <chromas> teehee
[03:54:24] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[03:54:24] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a vibrating buttplug
[03:54:25] <chromas> ~last nick=Khyber!
[03:54:28] <exec> 03[2014-03-13 21:56:40] #Soylent <Khyber> BBC has already covered me and one company using my technology
[03:55:26] <chromas> ~random nick=Khyber\|*!
[03:55:29] <exec> 03[2014-03-05 23:20:59] #Soylent <Khyber> fairly huge porch
[04:00:32] * Subsentient sprays chunky vomit all over the floor, ceiling, and walls
[04:02:11] <chromas> ~count channel= nick=Subsentient message=vomit type=action
[04:02:16] <exec> 0393
[04:02:27] <Subsentient> yup
[04:02:35] <chromas> need to vomit to the next power of two
[04:02:54] <jasassin> h0t water burn baby
[04:02:55] <Subsentient> :^3
[04:03:16] <chromas> hot cross buns
[04:03:24] <charon> wow, i got a troll mod
[04:03:28] <jasassin> hahha
[04:03:33] <jasassin> hahhahaha
[04:03:39] <charon> was it you, tough guy?
[04:03:42] <jasassin> no
[04:03:45] <jasassin> i swear to god
[04:03:49] <jasassin> it was not me
[04:03:51] <jasassin> i swear
[04:04:09] <jasassin> if it were me i'd tell you to fuck yourself
[04:04:21] <jasassin> but since you asked, no and fuck yourself anyway
[04:07:19] <jasassin> reality is nothing but an aquired taste
[04:07:59] <jasassin> you start out crying
[04:08:11] <jasassin> then you get mad
[04:08:17] <jasassin> then you get used to it
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[05:18:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alleged San Francisco Muni ‘Hacker’ Demanded $73,000 Ransom - http://sylnt.us - all-your-fare-are-belong-to-us
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[06:41:32] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 21°C/70°F, 5:41 pm AEDT, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[06:58:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Find Biggest Exposed Fault On Earth - http://sylnt.us - don't-blame-me-it's-not-my-fault
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[08:07:10] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 16°C/61°F, 5:07 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:26:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - http://sylnt.us - I've-got-my-infrared-eye-on-you
[08:26:26] <boru> AndyTheAbsurd; duly noted. I haven't pulled from top of tree, yet, but I'll probably hold off updating, in that case.
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[08:31:17] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:31 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:47:24] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:47 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:55:09] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:55 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
[09:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - http://sylnt.us - just-the-bookkeeper-is-no-longer-a-defense
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[10:09:59] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 18°C/64°F, 9:09 pm AEDT, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
[10:31:21] <u00> echo chamber much?
[10:36:01] <janrinok> u00, ?
[10:37:31] <u00> was funny reading about the javascript bashing. wish i could join in and smash on it too
[10:38:21] <crutchy> i'm coding js right now. as much as i bash it like everyone else, i still use it and need it
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[11:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:16:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3054
[11:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, got two old laptop hdds. going to install linux distros without systemd on them until i'm satisfied with one then going to mount my encrypted /home and start migrating system-wide stuff from old / over to new /
[11:53:35] <boru> Boo Linux
[11:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> will add it to the list.
[11:55:00] * boru chuckles.
[11:55:05] <boru> I was boo'ing Linux.
[11:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> or were you boo-ing Linux instead of suggesting the hardened gentoo distro?
[11:55:13] <boru> I was!
[11:55:15] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[11:55:30] <boru> I wasn't familiar with the distro.
[11:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think they named the distro that just to confuse people
[11:55:42] <boru> It seems like there's a new linux distro every week...
[11:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly is. i know we got at least one or two being created by folks in here.
[11:56:31] <boru> An entire fractalous, fragmented ecosystem all with their own idiosyncrasies and security vulnerabilities.
[11:57:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. can't wrap free men up in nice little gardens.
[11:58:35] <boru> I'm not convinced that forking linux distros is the best way to do it, though.
[11:58:55] <boru> Especially since most of them get abandoned/half maintained weeks/months later.
[11:59:05] <boru> It seems like the development effort could be better spent.
[11:59:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. the only issue is people fail to publicize their revolutionary new distro.
[11:59:51] <boru> Since most of them are just an existing distro with a new package manager, because their silly patch got rejected upstream.
[12:00:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> if people want it and know about it, you will get devs.
[12:00:20] <boru> There often is nothing revolutionary, however.
[12:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. a new theme on top of ubuntu is not a distro.
[12:01:17] <boru> Nor a package manager, imho, since you could just run that on whatever you're forking.
[12:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> now writing your own init system and package manager puts you firmly into the distro category.
[12:01:34] <boru> Init system, maybe, package manager, no, imho.
[12:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> either one alone wouldn't do it but together they're a fairly significant amount of change.
[12:03:13] <boru> So is a new window manager.
[12:03:19] <boru> They're just userland programs.
[12:03:24] <chromas> plus putting files into other directories
[12:03:42] <chromas> /srv/http ? /opt/http ! yay, I'm a distro mamker
[12:03:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting files into other directories is not distro-worthy. it is smake-worthy.
[12:03:53] * boru chuckles.
[12:04:21] <chromas> but I'll have none of that /var/www nonsense
[12:04:28] <boru> Ubunbu Pregnant Pagonia Change Directory Remix
[12:06:20] <boru> In fairness, the LFH standard is worthless, since most of it is optional. "Put stuff here. Maybe. Or not. It doesn't exist!"
[12:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay. first up i think we'll go with... Calculate Linux since it gives you the option of using binary packages or pulling from gentoo's portage tree and utterly lacks systemd
[12:06:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - http://sylnt.us - lost-my-keys
[12:07:07] * chromas creates systemd linux which only uses systemd products
[12:07:12] <boru> Just install BSD and be done with it!
[12:07:22] <chromas> he want graphics
[12:07:37] <boru> Are the two mutually exclusive?
[12:07:54] <chromas> yes
[12:07:58] * boru balks
[12:08:15] <boru> Right, I am going to go and make tea before I bludgeon my manager to death.
[12:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, i haven't touched a BSD install in 20 years because of shit hardware support. i want any damn piece of kit you can think of to work six months after it's released.
[12:08:42] <boru> BSD was very, very different 20 years ago.
[12:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but if i plug a cat's tail in on linux it will be all like sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
[12:10:46] <boru> I tend to buy pretty bleeding edge hw, and I think I've run into a hw support problem perhaps twice on FreeBSD. I've run into it much more on Linux, in fact.
[12:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i occasionally use some chincy, oddball hardware and i wanna know it's supported.
[12:11:06] <boru> ANd that's running Gentoo, since it supports all manner of weird targets that I own.
[12:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> so yer saying if i stuck it on an old laptop it would find and support all the hardware on it?
[12:12:13] <boru> Which? FreeBSD?
[12:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:12:29] <boru> Using GENERIC, probably, yeah.
[12:12:56] <boru> I don't usually use GENERIC because I hate bloaty kernels, and compile with only the stuff I use.
[12:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> will try that later then once i get my desktop back up and happy.
[12:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i used to do that when i was a wee nipper
[12:13:25] <boru> Well, you could boot a live system and see if it finds everything to your satisfaction in dmesg.
[12:13:46] <boru> (Saving you actually installing it, of course)
[12:13:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> then i realized you are ALWAYS going to want to add some oddball piece of kit to an install at some point or other.
[12:14:28] <boru> Well, unlike Linux, you needn't be so granular when selecting modules.
[12:14:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> only exception being occasionally you will have a server that just sits and does its job quietly where management can't see it.
[12:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho. it's smoke time then reboot this beastie into whatever usb stick i grab. yack at yall later.
[12:17:44] <boru> Dead on, man. Catch you later.
[12:24:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.tampabay.com
[12:24:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOOK AT HIS TINY SAXOPHONE.
[12:24:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Oddly enough, this is not a euphimism.)
[12:25:47] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:48] * exec defiantly gives birth to a tower of coke for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:49] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:25:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3055
[12:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:27:06] * exec ceremoniously offers a crust of maple syrup to cmn32480
[12:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> back later. it's new distro time.
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[12:29:06] <boru> Archetypical Aeroplane?
[12:31:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> should go backwards, just to fuck with people
[12:31:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can't think of adjectives that start with Z though
[12:31:57] <boru> Zoological Zebra?
[12:32:22] <boru> Tautological/redundant, I know.
[12:32:50] <chromas> Zany Zebra
[12:33:06] <boru> That does actually sound like a n00buntu release.
[12:33:48] <boru> I am certain I could write a script to do this.
[12:35:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> Zany Zebu, just because almost no one knows WTF a zebu is.
[12:36:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or name the distro releases after musical instruments - Zany Zither.
[12:37:49] <chromas> Small Saxophone
[12:37:55] <boru> Zionist Zebu Free Palestine Remix.
[12:38:39] <boru> Instruments are harder, I think.
[12:39:00] <boru> Flora and fauna are many.
[12:40:11] <boru> Quasidimensional Quinticlave. That solves 'Q', at least.
[12:43:33] <chromas> Quasi Queerkin
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[13:13:25] <cmn32480> there is actually a website that provides a list of adjectives starting with different letters
[13:13:46] <cmn32480> http://adjectivesstarting.com
[13:13:48] <exec> └─ 13AdjectivesStarting.com - A list of Adjectives by their starting letter
[13:13:56] <cmn32480> http://adjectivesstarting.com
[13:13:57] <exec> └─ 13Adjectives that Start with Z
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[13:14:25] <boru> Where's the fun in that?
[13:14:25] <cmn32480> Zaftig Zebu
[13:14:26] <cmn32480> zaftig: (of a female body) healthily plump and vigorous
[13:14:59] <boru> That sounds like it has German origin. Some derivation of 'juicy' perhaps?
[13:17:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> From Yiddish, and German before that, according to a quick Google search for "zaftig etymology"
[13:17:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.etymonline.com
[13:17:39] <exec> └─ 13Online Etymology Dictionary
[13:17:55] <boru> I'm currently learning German, but good guess!
[13:19:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I took German in high school. I didn't learn that much of it (US high school, so what do you expect?) and I graduated 20 years ago, so I only remember a bit of it.
[13:20:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> But I know the difference between "du haßt" and "du hast".
[13:21:13] <boru> To sufficiently get by in any country, all you need are to be able to ask for a pint at the pub, and to chat up the birds.
[13:42:28] * cmn32480 runs for the custoemr site
[13:44:31] <FatPhil> anyone know a quick way of getting wsj.com to give you the whole story rather than just a teaser
[13:48:07] <boru> I had a look, but I get a TLS error (no cipher overlap); technical incompetence + paywall == get news elsewhere.
[13:51:24] <Bytram|away> boru: I would argue that after you learn how to ask for a pint at the pub, you should know how to ask for where is the loo. ;)
[13:51:41] <Bytram|away> only got a minute, can't chat as am on my way to work
[13:51:55] <boru> Unnecessary. That only requires observation.
[13:52:00] <Bytram|away> lol
[13:52:07] <boru> Watch where other people get up and go to.
[13:52:16] <Bytram|away> AndyTheAbsurd: what's the difference between "du haßt" and "du hast"?
[13:52:19] <boru> Monkey see, monkey do.
[13:52:23] <Bytram|away> nod nod
[13:52:24] <FatPhil> Bytram|away: we're male, pretty much everywhere is the loo
[13:52:31] <Bytram|away> lol
[13:52:51] * boru shall watch where he walks when in close proximity to FatPhil...
[13:53:19] <Bytram|away> ich habe, du hast, er habt, wir haben, ihr habt, sie haben... nicht wahr?
[13:53:40] <FatPhil> I am notorious for my ability to last a long time before needing to go, so I'll be watching everyone else and have the best corpus of information to draw my conclusions from.
[13:53:58] <boru> So you're some sort of toilet oracle?
[13:54:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram|away: "du haßt" which can also be spelled "du hasst" is "you hate" in English. "du hast" is "you have". Thus the lyrics to Rammstein's "Du Hast" are ambiguous. "Du hasst mich" would be "You hate me" but "Du hast mich gefragt" is "You asked me".
[13:55:02] <Bytram|away> ich habe nuhr drei jahhren in unsere art Gymnasium gestudiert, aber ich oft mit Deutshe volk sprechen am arbiet
[13:55:07] <Bytram|away> viel dank!
[13:55:19] <FatPhil> boru: I'm also blessed with absolutely no short term memory, so my corpus may be filled by noise eventually.
[13:55:21] <Bytram|away> ok, gtg. laters!
[13:55:33] <boru> Aye, I've got to run for a bit, as well.
[13:55:35] * boru &
[14:05:33] <chromas> fg
[14:05:48] <chromas> "There are no suitable jobs"
[14:06:27] <chromas> oh no, his job process died in the background
[14:15:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Macintosh Endgame - http://sylnt.us - year-of-the-linux-desktop
[15:00:35] * TheMightyBuzzard sneaks in on his laptop while his new desktop install updates
[15:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite chromas
[15:00:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:00:43] <MrPlow> #fite chromas's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[15:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[15:00:53] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a limp carrot
[15:00:57] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[15:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> as long as i can do SOME violence to him
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[15:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite chromas
[15:58:11] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:59:37] <MrPlow> #fite chromas falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
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