#Soylent | Logs for 2017-03-29
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[01:16:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Apartments in London are Smaller than Budget Hotel Rooms - http://sylnt.us - if-it-can-fit-a-bed,-it's-fine
[02:25:33] <Bytram> ~time x
[02:25:34] <exec> Wednesday, 29 March 2017 @ 2:25 am UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[02:45:33] <nick> http://finance.yahoo.com
[02:45:36] <exec> └─ 13Horizons ETFs to Launch First Marijuana ETF
[02:56:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humans Are 'Learning to Think As a Species' - http://sylnt.us - good-for-me
[03:17:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump is Weeks Away from Missing His Chance to Reform Work Visas - http://sylnt.us - hope-it's-on-morning-joe-that-week
[03:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humans are "Learning to Think as a Species" - http://sylnt.us - good-for-me
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[04:10:22] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 18°C/65°F, 1:10 am GMT-3, Wednesday, 29 March 2017
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[04:38:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee (nebula award candidate) - http://sylnt.us - book-review
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[06:25:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Last Call for the Phone Booth? - http://sylnt.us - no-one-carries-coins-anyway
[06:27:10] * chromas invents phone booths with card readers
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[08:05:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Death of Advertising - http://sylnt.us - good-riddance
[09:57:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Launches Company to Link Your Brain to a Computer - http://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong?
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[10:46:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Populism is the Result of Global Economic Failure - http://sylnt.us - no-one's-leaving-until-we-have-unanimous-agreement
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[11:16:01] <exec> welcome FatPhil: Tallinn, Estonia, 3°C/37°F, 2:16 pm GMT+3, Wednesday, 29 March 2017
[11:37:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dishwasher has Directory Traversal Bug - http://sylnt.us - let's-make-the-Internet-squeaky-clean
[11:38:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> "This allows access to arbitrary files on the dishwasher's Web server from unauthenticated users."
[11:38:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> What the fuck, why does a dishwasher need a web server?
[11:39:44] <boru> NFI, but I'm going to have a field day when this stuff is widespread. It's like the 90s all over again.
[11:39:55] <boru> Same mistakes.
[11:40:46] <boru> Also, what's the story with that Markov chain bot in your channel?
[11:41:04] <boru> It's just a firehose of nonsense.
[11:41:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> and it's reading /etc/shadow, which means that the web server process is running as root. It's like these people haven't heard of the Unix permissions model.
[11:41:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> eh? what Markov chain bot? and which channel?
[11:41:44] <boru> In the PM channel.
[11:43:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, that's not "my" channel; if it's anybody's, it's Moonchild's.
[11:44:39] <boru> Also, fwiw, the whole thing of permissions seems to be a common misunderstanding on Linux. Lots of people use Linux, not so many understand Linux.
[11:45:36] <boru> Other unix-likes don't hold your hand nearly as much, ergo, people do some background reading.
[11:47:49] * AndyTheAbsurd cut his Unix teeth on DEC Alphas and Sun SparcStations in the late 1990s so had to learn at least a little bit instead of having his hand held all the way
[11:47:50] <boru> I meant collective 'you', but that wasn't levelled at collective you, either, really. Moreso a comment on the unhingedness of some users.
[11:48:04] <boru> gg
[11:48:19] <boru> I wish more of the RISCs from the 90s surivived.
[11:49:44] <boru> I worked on some rad-hardened sparcs and mips thereafter, but that's more or less one of the few places you'd come across them; LEON, ERC32, Mongoose-V etc.
[12:06:12] <FatPhil> I still have my DEC Alpha mobo from the late 1990s. Alas it won't power up with a PC PSU
[12:06:46] <boru> If you plan on getting rid of it, let me know.
[12:06:50] <FatPhil> has all the same connectors, but nothing ever lights up at all.
[12:08:04] <FatPhil> I kinda wanna keep the 20164 itself, however, if you're keen to get it up and running, then that's more important a goal than me just looking at it.
[12:08:45] <FatPhil> It's currently in the flat of someone who tried to get it up and running but failed, in fact.
[12:43:59] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:44:00] * exec hideously internalizes a rusty trombone of totally legit parameters in TheMightyBuzzard
[12:50:09] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:50:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3314
[12:51:24] <Bytram> !uid
[12:51:24] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6544, owned by corpusant
[13:02:11] <boru> I'd give it a shot.
[13:05:54] <FatPhil> I'll get at least the mobo/cpu back then next time I'm in .fi.
[13:06:12] <FatPhil> Were you based in .ie or .uk?
[13:15:20] <boru> In .uk for the moment.
[13:20:51] <FatPhil> Do have plans to be back over there this summer...
[13:21:03] <FatPhil> drinking teh beerz
[13:23:56] <boru> To Ireland? I'll be there for Easter, next month. Mayo, then Kildare.
[13:24:04] <boru> I might be back some time in August, as well.
[13:24:33] <boru> You thinking of visiting and going for a pint?
[13:26:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DragonFly BSD 4.8 Released - http://sylnt.us - the-other-other-other-other-OS
[13:42:18] <FatPhil> boru: g/f & I (and also regular boozing buddy) are agreed that we must visit .ie RSN, what's more likely is taht we'll just hit Cambridge/Peterborough for one of their beer festivals
[13:44:16] <FatPhil> boozing buddy is planning to find a new job, in which case there will be a big unhealthy trip between his jobs.
[13:51:08] <boru> Cambridge beer festivals work as well.
[14:38:47] <cmn32480> I am so enjoying listening to one of the salesreps from my company stepping all over his own dick....
[15:06:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient Palace Complex Discovered in Mexican Valley of Oaxaca - http://sylnt.us - can-you-dig-it?
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[16:34:47] <FatPhil> When you think she's alright, but then you find out she's a feminist: https://www.youtube.com
[16:34:48] <exec> └─ 13Wooden Dildo | Stoned Mode - YouTube
[16:36:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX to Relaunch Used Rocket on Thursday March 30 6PM EDT (10PM UTC) - http://sylnt.us - here-we-go-again!
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[17:35:34] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 26°C/78°F, 2:35 pm GMT-3, Wednesday, 29 March 2017
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[18:13:14] <takyon> brexit. game on.
[18:17:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Waze Gets into the Order-Ahead Business with Dunkin' Donuts - http://sylnt.us - just-drive
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[19:41:27] <FatPhil> brexit. game over.~
[19:41:29] <FatPhil> :(
[19:41:56] <chromas> Now you can start Brenter
[19:42:20] <chromas> We can let California "calexit" and then the UK can be our 50th state :D
[19:42:47] <chromas> Join us! We can plunder the world together
[19:43:20] <FatPhil> I might join California :/
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[19:45:15] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 23°C/74°F, 4:45 pm GMT-3, Wednesday, 29 March 2017
[19:45:18] <FatPhil> I'm hoping for Scoxit, and I'll maybe move there. At least they speak a vague approximation to English that I might be able to cope with.
[19:46:06] <FatPhil> Maybe I could move to N.I, and hope for Irexit and possible Eirenter?
[19:47:11] <n1> nice...
[19:47:14] <FatPhil> But that's the odd thing, my g/f's residence here with me in ,ee is predicated upon her being a "family member" of an EU citizen. When I lose that attribute, fuck knows what happens.
[19:47:42] <cmn32480> time to get married?
[19:48:07] <FatPhil> Erm, then she's be a family member of a non-EU citizen, and would have no right to residency
[19:48:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solar Power-Related Jobs in U.S. Grew 25% in 2016 - http://sylnt.us - the-future-is-looking-brighter
[19:48:38] <cmn32480> oh...
[19:48:47] <cmn32480> <facepalm>
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[19:48:53] <FatPhil> this is not a discussion about my marital status, which is hardly a big issue in the news, this is about the implications of Brexit.
[19:49:26] <cmn32480> they are many and far reaching in ways that people living on the continent might not have thought about until now
[19:50:54] <cmn32480> but as in your situation, there will have to be something that can be done short of renoucing citizenship in the UK and getting it in an EU country
[19:51:23] <FatPhil> and nobody will know precisely what they are until negotiations are *finished*.
[19:51:49] <chromas> What about an anchor baby?
[19:51:59] <FatPhil> I'll happily renounce my citizenship. Being a Brit was nothing but an accident of irth.
[19:52:03] <FatPhil> mirth?
[19:52:05] <FatPhil> girth?
[19:52:08] <FatPhil> nah, birth
[19:52:13] <chromas> Girth too
[19:52:22] <FatPhil> some girth was involved :)
[19:52:41] <chromas> and probably an accident
[19:52:49] <chromas> Spilling like BP
[19:52:52] <FatPhil> chromas: ooooh, we're staunchly child-free.
[19:53:12] <FatPhil> no accident - I was my sister's 2nd birthday afterparty ;-)
[19:59:54] <cmn32480> lol
[20:00:52] <n1> lol
[20:00:55] <n1> FatPhil++
[20:00:55] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 26
[20:03:47] <n1> Brexit could be a good thing, however the government handling it like entitled millennials who got too many participation trophies does not make it a success in the making.
[20:05:09] <boru> FatPhil; You should be alright in Ireland. Last EU country outside the Schengen zone, as well.
[20:05:54] <n1> After Brexit CNNC can get involved in Hinkley Point, Softbank will be able to buy ARM, MENA will make real estate investment, New era of a Global Britain...
[20:06:16] <boru> Softbank already bought ARM.
[20:06:22] <n1> that was my point.
[20:06:31] <boru> Oh, I see.
[20:06:36] * boru kldload brain.ko
[20:08:23] <FatPhil> boru: If Ireland will take me... My dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad may have been Irish, but alas that's not enough to get a .ie passport
[20:09:41] <boru> Where are you from, again? You should be just fine living/working in Ireland without the passport if you're in the EU, and eligible to work otherwise, since it's not in the Schengen zone.
[20:10:01] <n1> FatPhil, it remains to be seen what will happen with .uk .ie relations, i've been looking more at business opportunity in .ie as it would be a decent gateway into the single market from the uk.
[20:10:15] <boru> Irish passport application goes something like this: "Ah, sure, he's a nice fella. Give him a passport."
[20:10:54] <cmn32480> so it resembles their corporate tax laws?
[20:25:32] <boru> Basically.
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[20:29:55] <exec> welcome Deucalion: London, UK, 14°C/58°F, 9:29 pm GMT+1, Wednesday, 29 March 2017
[20:42:30] <FatPhil> this is quite hypnotic: http://www.youtube.com
[20:42:32] <exec> └─ 13Extreme Egg Breaking and Separating Machines: OVO-TECH Machines in Action - YouTube
[20:44:06] <cmn32480> [yer jsut chicken
[20:44:12] * cmn32480 ducks
[21:13:22] * FatPhil crows about the quality of the puns nowadays
[21:14:09] <FatPhil> Fuck it, I'm gonna go full TMWRNJ - eggy egg egg eggy eggy nest
[21:14:54] <FatPhil> I'm going through a retro phase at the moment, and am watching TMWRNJ every sunday morning, just as I did back in the late 90s.
[21:16:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google’s AI Explosion in One Chart - MIT Technology Review - http://sylnt.us - I-for-one-welcome-...
[21:47:47] <n1> so not only do i have new construction happening just across the street... they broke the damn water main
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[22:26:27] <Deucalion> do you have those emergency water bowser things out in the street now then n1 ?
[22:28:44] <n1> hah no
[22:29:30] <n1> a lot of people here have water storage on their property, as a notable percentage of people are not connected to the water supply... they have wells instead
[22:29:31] <Deucalion> had those here a few years back when the mains water went out for some reason. All credit to the water co, they had them in place within a couple of hours.
[22:31:11] <n1> dont know what the situation is here, but when i was in the caribbean, you're only guaranteed water like 3 days a week
[22:31:39] <n1> wasn't a problem where i was, but they had that excuse if necessary
[22:34:00] <Deucalion> ha - I was assuming you were in the uk at the moment.
[22:35:57] <n1> nah, plenty of other places to go that isn't the UK
[22:44:43] <Deucalion> Aye
[22:57:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Airport Runways should be Circular - http://sylnt.us - we'll-get-around-to-it-someday