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[00:25:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, they regularly put shitty, shitty episodes in but it has most of the best klingon episodes of any series.
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[06:08:45] <Ellenor> <+newsly> [Independent - World] India's plan to give women a day off for their period criticised by feminists http://www.independent.co.uk 2017-08-07T05:33:00
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[09:27:04] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm not a fan of Klingon episodes generally, most of them fall into the "fucked up society is fucked up" category.
[09:29:15] <FatPhil> I'm looking forward to them developing the dominion threat. I quite liked its use as a red herring in S04E01.
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[10:23:13] <FatPhil> goes viral outside google too
[10:56:21] <chromas> transmisogynicisphobic expialidocious
[11:05:47] <FatPhil> *triggered*
[11:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, the klingon episodes get much better during the war. klingons n war go together like biscuits n gravy.
[11:07:32] <FatPhil> so only appreciated by Americans?
[11:08:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. be a shame though. everyone got war in their history.
[11:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i'm kinda disappointed at the price of industrial grade IoT computers.
[11:36:41] <boru> What do you have in mind? What do you mean by 'IoT'?
[11:37:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> granted most credit card sized dev boards are pieces of flaky shit but tacking on another $400 for an aluminum case and good power circuitry seems a bit overpriced
[11:38:00] <boru> What do you need?
[11:38:28] <boru> I've a bunch I was about to dump to the FreeBSD bods and some fella in .lv, but I'd redirect one if you wanted.
[11:38:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, looking for something that can count digital pulses and drop the count and a timestamp up to a web callback. ideally via cellular modem cause having an internet connection is far from guaranteed in the locations.
[11:39:01] <FatPhil> I've had uptimes of nearly a year on my raspi, I wouldn't call it flaky
[11:39:21] * boru refrains from comment.
[11:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> needs to be as reliable and friendly to industrial environments as possible too. it's not gonna have dust control or air conditioning.
[11:40:31] <boru> You're probably looking at something industrial/ruggedised then. These are just crap eval boards with some application processor on them.
[11:40:43] <boru> Automotive boards run expensive, but industrial boards less so.
[11:41:15] <boru> I don't have anything with a cell modem, but you could plug in a USB modem, I suppose.
[11:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep and everything i'm finding is in the $4-500 range. which gets expensive when you're talking about deploying to hundreds of sites.
[11:41:53] <boru> Well, things get cheaper in larger runs.
[11:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[11:42:00] <boru> But yeah, kind of spendy.
[11:42:14] <boru> What sort of bandwidth do you need?
[11:43:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> minimal. 1-4x a day it needs to hit a url with a hand-typeable bit of post data and get back an empty 200 response.
[11:43:56] <boru> How sparse is the network?
[11:44:13] <boru> I was thinking Iridium bridge, if it weren't very scattered.
[11:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> is no network necessarily. it needs to be independent.
[11:45:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:45:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3578
[11:45:15] <Bytram> !uid
[11:45:15] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6661, owned by Gypsy1230
[11:45:25] <Bytram> gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:45:36] <Bytram> is PC-104 still a thing?
[11:45:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> really i could do everything with a microcontroller if i taught myself how to make one use a cell modem.
[11:45:47] <boru> HF TX?
[11:45:49] * Bytram strokes his gray beard
[11:45:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram 404
[11:46:06] <Bytram> whadya mean 404?
[11:46:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> bot not found
[11:46:19] <Bytram> ahh, nod nod
[11:46:27] <Bytram> yeah, exec took a header a few days ago
[11:46:52] <Bytram> methinks cmn is still up to his eyeballs in alligators working on his project -- should toss him a note to say Hi
[11:46:55] <Bytram> brb
[11:46:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey... i should have cmn32480's number. i can send him an emergency text to revive the bot.
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[11:47:42] <Bytram> I have it as well, but this is a HUGE and MAJOR project for him & his company... not worth disturbing him for a bot -- atleast that was my thought
[11:48:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> really i do NOT need a full on computer for this application. i do need something that can interface with a cell modem though.
[11:48:24] <Bytram> OTOH, ISTM all he needs is a 'cron' job that pops up every hour or so, sees if exec is running, and if not launches it again
[11:48:35] <Bytram> arduino?
[11:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly
[11:48:45] <boru> Yuck.
[11:48:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or similar
[11:48:53] <Bytram> lol nvm
[11:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> needs to be rugged and reliable though.
[11:49:05] <boru> How much I/O do you need?
[11:49:41] <boru> What are your other requirements?
[11:49:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, essentially i need a glorified pulse counter that's able to send web requests over the internet.
[11:50:01] <Bytram> what are the operating parameters? temp range, power, humidity, etc.
[11:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> able to withstand nasty outside temperatures, dust, and bugs from Montana to Louisianan
[11:50:50] <Bytram> all year long?
[11:50:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:51:00] <Bytram> power availability?
[11:51:07] <Bytram> i.e. inside or outside?
[11:51:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> non-issue. power supplies are cheap.
[11:51:24] <Bytram> try again... battery or plug into the wall?
[11:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> in an electronics cabinet outside
[11:51:28] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:51:52] <Bytram> Montana eh? so lows down to, say, -30F ??
[11:51:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> line voltage though it'll likely have a battery backup
[11:52:04] <Bytram> k
[11:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> what particular voltage is irrelevant, power supplies of any voltage are cheap.
[11:52:48] <Bytram> does it have to be "web requests over internet"?? /me is thinkoing [S]FTP
[11:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't HAVE to be http but it does have to go over the internet without depending on a local network existing.
[11:53:35] <Bytram> okaaay
[11:53:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> thus cell modem
[11:54:06] <boru> Well, there are bridges for other bands.
[11:54:16] <boru> i.e. HF -> 'Net
[11:54:18] <Bytram> couldn't you just count thermonuclear pulses?
[11:54:21] <Bytram> ;)
[11:54:41] <Bytram> if non-commercial, could use packet radio
[11:54:46] <Bytram> aka ham
[11:54:58] <boru> Right.
[11:55:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, widely scattered across two time zones. very much commercial
[11:55:12] <Bytram> how manyof these are we talking about here?
[11:55:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> couple hundred
[11:55:33] <Bytram> you gonna make 'em by hand or source it out?
[11:55:44] * Bytram warms up a soldering iron
[11:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> whichever way it needs to be done.
[11:55:50] <boru> I suspect CotS is preferable.
[11:56:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely going to have to put some solid state relays in to pulse 3.3v or 5v instead of the 24dcv pulses that come out of what we're trying to read
[11:56:31] <Bytram> I mentioned it earlier, but went unreplied to... is PC-104 still a thing?
[11:56:39] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[11:57:04] <Bytram> brb
[11:57:10] <boru> Yeah, I'd presume so.
[11:57:54] <boru> Depending on the target, you might buck it down to 1v8, even.
[11:58:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, cots is preferable but minimal modifications are fine. i don't mind adding something to make 24v pulses into Nv pulses to be read.
[11:58:44] <boru> Poking around at SoMs, I came across: https://www.multitech.com
[11:58:45] <upstart> ^ 03MultiConnect® Dragonfly™ | Cellular SoM | Multi-Tech Systems, Inc.
[11:59:06] * TheMightyBuzzard looks
[11:59:38] <Bytram> http://www.rtd.com
[11:59:40] <upstart> ^ 03PC/104 GPS Modules
[11:59:49] <Bytram> https://www.embeddedarm.com
[11:59:49] <upstart> ^ 03TS-GSM1 PC/104 GSM Cellular Modem Peripheral Board
[12:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that does look better
[12:00:07] <boru> Looks like there's a mictor daughtercard connector there for I/O, too.
[12:00:37] <boru> Ah, yeah, that's quite tidy.
[12:00:45] <boru> Baseboard included, as well.
[12:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool
[12:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> not seeing operating temps yet but an enclosure i can make myself if necessary.
[12:01:49] <boru> Insulate your battery well else it'll be knackered in no time.
[12:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, -40C to 85C. should work fine.
[12:02:31] <Bytram> that should do it =)
[12:02:38] <boru> AUtomotive temps.
[12:03:13] <Bytram> boru++ on battery and temps
[12:03:13] <Bender> karma - boru: 16
[12:03:47] <Bytram> !uid
[12:03:47] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6661, owned by Gypsy1230
[12:03:56] <boru> Aye, I've written an article about battery testing for in-the-field astronomy. I should dig that out.
[12:04:03] <Bytram> kewel!
[12:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> cold can be dealt with by adding a tiny cabinet heater set to freezing or there abouts
[12:04:15] <boru> Settled on LiFePO4 as my prefered battery tech.
[12:04:27] <Bytram> I suspect you have better luck with astronomy when it is in the field than when it is in the house ;)
[12:04:28] <boru> 1/3 the weight of SLA.
[12:04:34] <boru> Heh, quite right.
[12:04:49] <boru> I'll be moving to less inclined skies soon.
[12:04:54] <boru> Alas.
[12:04:58] <Bytram> from the sounds of things, I do not think weight is going to be a factor?
[12:05:05] <Bytram> sad face
[12:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, speak for yourself. it's always cloudy in TN but it's never cloudy on the internet.
[12:05:18] <boru> Sure, but when lugging around astronomical equipment, the less heavy stuff you have to carry, the better...
[12:05:28] <Bytram> not cludy... just, ummm, azure?
[12:05:53] <Bytram> ugh... my typo skills seem to be excellent this AM
[12:05:59] <boru> Cummulative, I'd say I've ~150Kg of equipment to shift around on the go.
[12:06:02] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:06:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3579
[12:06:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't interfere with telescopes.
[12:06:02] <Bytram> biab
[12:06:21] <Bytram> so don
[12:06:32] <boru> Thankfully, I don't need to. My imaging setup is almost entirely automated.
[12:06:38] <Bytram> so don't put your telescope 'in the cloud?'
[12:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, if this works out well i owe ya a beer and a custom SN ball cap.
[12:06:52] <Bytram> afk
[12:06:54] <boru> I can sit at home int the warmth and program my session, then when I get everything set up, I just hit 'go'
[12:07:14] <boru> Glorious!
[12:07:28] <boru> If ever I'm in your neck of the woods, I'll take you up on that beer.
[12:07:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, i been meaning to get with NCommander over getting some GOOD SN caps made.
[12:07:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> the ones on our store suck ass.
[12:07:59] <boru> Top hats?
[12:08:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh...
[12:08:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> derby or bowler maybe. those just scream "i'm looking for an argument"
[12:08:35] <boru> Stetson (sp?) would work, too.
[12:08:40] * boru chuckles.
[12:08:52] <boru> A selection of hats.
[12:09:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking just good quality/looking ball caps though. can get em for $2-4/ea wholesale.
[12:10:17] <boru> What about capes?
[12:10:34] <boru> Larger mugs would be preferable, also.
[12:10:43] <boru> Those looks like espresso mugs in the shop.
[12:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Yeti mugs would be best.
[12:11:21] <boru> What're they? Some sort of American marvel, no doubt.
[12:11:28] <boru> I haven't heard of them.
[12:11:55] <boru> I've a bull horn mug for beer.
[12:11:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cup designed like a thermos. keeps things hot or cold FOREVER
[12:12:15] <boru> I don't believe you.
[12:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> well at least overnight
[12:12:49] <boru> The laws of thermodynamics dictate thermal equilibrium at the heat death of the universe.
[12:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i accidentally pushed brew instead of delayed brew on the coffee maker one night so i just turned the pot off after it was done and filled up my yeti cup. next morning it still burned my mouth when i took a sip.
[12:13:34] <boru> Impressive.
[12:14:04] <boru> I wonder how much work a laser cooled mug would be.
[12:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. they is the epic kings of beverage cups.
[12:14:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno
[12:14:24] <boru> What sort of sizes can you get?
[12:14:28] <boru> Pint size?
[12:14:30] <boru> Larger?
[12:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> 10/20/30 oz
[12:14:53] * boru computes.
[12:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly more but i've seen those
[12:15:10] <boru> 12 ounces in a coke can, right?
[12:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:15:18] <boru> Got it.
[12:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> 16oz is a pint
[12:15:33] <boru> Ah, right. Very good.
[12:15:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> so almost two pints in the 30oz
[12:16:36] <boru> That's a good size.
[12:16:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> one good drink than a liter?
[12:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i use one as my coffee cup
[12:17:28] <boru> That's what I had in mind.
[12:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can completely forget about it while coding and not have cold coffee in the morning.
[12:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/in the morning/when i remember/
[12:17:54] <upstart> <TheMightyBuzzard> i can completely forget about it while coding and not have cold coffee when i remember.
[12:18:13] <boru> Too bad their site requires js to display anything.
[12:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of which... shit... i need a refill
[12:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, bastards
[12:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://yeticustomshop.com
[12:19:16] <upstart> ^ 03Browse Exclusive YETI Rambler Customization | YETI Custom Shop
[12:19:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you were just looking for a visual
[12:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> the one with a deer head is the 30oz
[12:19:56] * TheMightyBuzzard runs off to refill his coffee and grab a smoke
[12:21:50] <boru> Looks like the Browning logo.
[12:22:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: If you have mains power, could you not also have/require a POTS connection? modems are a known thing. ATDT+ a little DTMF of whatever data, with CRC and you should be good to go, I would *think*
[12:22:41] <Bytram> also, 'cellular' is kinda vague... what bands can you guarantee would be available at all sites?
[12:23:10] <boru> Good shout.
[12:23:51] <Bytram> huh?
[12:24:02] <boru> Suggesting POTS.
[12:24:09] <boru> It was a good idea.
[12:24:19] <Bytram> oh! Thanks!
[12:25:27] <Bytram> I'm a little fuzzy on what the 'receiver' would 'look like', might want something multi-homed that, in turn, posts what it receives to a site on the net.
[12:26:00] <Bytram> have a couple-three targets that each installation could call in to.
[12:26:03] <Bytram> redundancy++
[12:26:03] <Bender> karma - redundancy: 4
[12:26:19] <boru> Aye, good call.
[12:28:02] <Bytram> heh. something along the lines of fidonet, maybe?
[12:28:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nah. POTS is a no-go. power we'll definitely have but POTS is a crap shoot as to whether it will exist there.
[12:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> some of the locations are fairly remote.
[12:28:28] <Bytram> so pots is a crap shoot, but cellular is guaranteed?
[12:29:09] <boru> This is the world we now live in.
[12:29:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well not guaranteed but a lot more reliably present
[12:29:36] <Bytram> umm, some of the world... I still run into dead zones on occasion
[12:29:46] <Bytram> well, I could.
[12:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're curious, we're talking feed lots for cattle/poultry. the places that produce the food for the critters.
[12:30:22] <Bytram> GSM? LTE? what bands?
[12:30:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> irrelevant. only need maybe a megabyte a year transfered.
[12:31:16] <Bytram> well, if the freq you want is not available..
[12:31:41] <Bytram> e.g. you make a board expecting CDmA and there's only GSMN
[12:31:49] <Bytram> s/m/M/
[12:31:49] <upstart> <Bytram> e.g. you Make a board expecting CDmA and there's only GSMN
[12:31:54] <Bytram> bah
[12:31:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> which band we can find out easy enough by asking someone on site what phone service they use and if they have any bars at work.
[12:32:00] <Bytram> e.g. you make a board expecting CDMA and there's only GSMN
[12:32:22] <Bytram> now your true colors are showing? "bars at work" ?? =))
[12:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and they make boards for either band mostly identical
[12:32:24] <boru> A lot of those cell SoMs will have TX for multiple bands/standards.
[12:32:49] <boru> Not that kind of bar!
[12:33:05] <Bytram> I would expect as much... just do not conflate there being cell coverage with being something that you can use with a particular board/card/whatever?
[12:33:11] <Bytram> IOW do not assume
[12:33:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, not necessarily. company is run by a bunch of west texas cowboys. they have a beer fridge, a water fridge, and a liquor cabinet at the main plant.
[12:33:47] <Bytram> LOL!
[12:33:57] <boru> Are they hiring?
[12:34:11] <Bytram> taking a glance at the dragonfly specs, looks like it would cover things
[12:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly. i think they're going to need a service/installation guy soon.
[12:34:40] <Bytram> boru: Texas -- frying pan --> fire
[12:34:47] <Bytram> I kid, but only a little
[12:34:53] <boru> Really?
[12:35:17] <boru> Good firearms laws, women with nice accents, clear skies, close to tornado alley -- what's not to love?
[12:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> pays about $40-50k a year plus company truck, your fuel paid for, all your expenses on the road paid for (including entertainment which often consists of a trip to the liquor store)
[12:35:51] * boru chuckles.
[12:36:26] <Bytram> temperatures / humidity? Texas is BIG... can drive for a whole day and still not leave the state
[12:36:41] <Bytram> Houston and Austin are very different animals
[12:37:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> give you an idea of the kind of environment they have at the office... they got a new air ram in for something or other and the first thing they did was start drinking and using it to launch flaming mops out into the pasture.
[12:38:00] <Bytram> burger time
[12:38:03] <boru> To be fair, that'd probably have been my first port of call, as well.
[12:38:08] <boru> AFK for a bit, myself.
[12:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically what i'm looking to sell them is something that reads the 12||24DCV pulses their flow meter puts out, totalize them for the day, and send that data to their webserver. i figure i can get $500/site out of them minus materials, so anything less than that is my profit.
[12:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've got... somewhere between 100 and 200 sites.
[12:48:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not gonna be a year's wages from one project but it's a damned fine start.
[12:53:34] <Bytram> be sure to plan it maintenance / support
[12:58:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh absolutely
[12:59:13] <Bytram> be sure to plan it maintenance / support *contract*
[12:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> tack on another 10-20K for that.
[12:59:35] <Bytram> and how long do you want to support these? 5 years? 10?
[13:00:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually, they'll be doing all the on-site maintenance. by which i mean replacing the dud with a new one. code maintenance would be on me.
[13:00:29] <Bytram> oh. that's MUCh better.
[13:00:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, as long as they want me to or until they find something they like better.
[13:01:14] <Bytram> remote software updates? think: security.
[13:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> security'll be easy for the most part. at least for a paranoid bastard like me.
[13:02:30] <Bytram> always have two copies on board -- current, and new... download new, try, reboot with old if not 'good'
[13:02:38] <Bytram> you get the idea
[13:02:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> knod knod
[13:02:45] <Bytram> sounds vry interesting
[13:03:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking it sounds profitable
[13:03:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> but should be a fun enough project as well
[13:03:51] <Bytram> could be... just be sure to plan on unexpected costs -- add a goodly margin... if they accept yays.
[13:03:55] <Bytram> fun++
[13:03:55] <Bender> karma - fun: 2
[13:05:31] <Bytram> If you need a QA guy... =)
[13:05:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i figure i can get $250 profit out of each unit plus a service contract for $10-20k/yr. more if they want to use my code instead of their web guy's code to make nifty charts n graphs and such.
[13:06:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:06:34] <Bytram> sounds reasonable.... just start with a couple prototypes in the field to work out the bugs 'in the real world'
[13:07:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, i don't expect a full rollout to happen in under 3-5 years.
[13:07:18] <Bytram> knod gnawed
[13:11:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, how are ya with electrical and industrial environments as opposed to code? very, very simple system on their end.
[13:11:39] <Bytram> pm
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[13:20:10] <Bytram> time for me to get ready for work... laters!
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