#Soylent | Logs for 2017-11-07
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[00:07:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DNAinfo and Gothamist Shut Down After Vote to Unionize - http://sylnt.us - Retaliation?-or-Post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc?
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[01:36:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Much Does a Kilogram Weigh? - http://sylnt.us - a-pound-of-feathers-or....
[01:37:49] <chromas> 1kg of feathers vs 1kg of rocks
[01:43:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1kg of bacon
[01:52:00] <chromas> and -1kg of coffee
[01:57:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and 1kkkg of ethanol
[02:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[02:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[02:00:01] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 502
[02:50:54] <Sulla> Can anyone
[02:50:57] <Sulla> Nicotine++
[02:50:57] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 503
[02:51:13] <Sulla> Ruining your calculation
[02:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, it's not my personal count. it's the karma of smoking in general.
[02:57:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma chameleon
[02:57:14] <Bender> karma of chameleon is 10
[03:11:57] <Sulla> Does any kind of nicotine apply?
[03:12:12] <Sulla> When does the counter begin
[03:14:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> starts at zero for whatever you want to ++
[03:14:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yes, pick your poison
[03:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[03:14:45] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 51
[03:14:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> trumps_hair++
[03:14:55] <Bender> karma - trumps_hair: 1
[03:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Perigord Black Truffle Cultivated in the UK for the First Time - http://sylnt.us - marigold-white-triffle
[03:43:19] <Bytram> poutine--
[03:43:19] <Bender> karma - poutine: -414
[03:43:36] <Bytram> Sulla: you can autodecrement, too. =)
[03:49:57] * chromas enjoys self-decrementing humor
[03:50:13] * chromas takes himself down a peg
[03:50:22] TheMightyBuzzard is now known as humor
[03:50:25] <humor> Humor--
[03:50:25] <Bender> karma - humor: -1
[03:50:32] humor is now known as TheMightyBuzzard
[03:53:37] <Sulla> Cigar++
[03:53:38] <Bender> karma - cigar: 1
[03:53:58] <Bytram> cigar--
[03:53:59] <Bender> karma - cigar: 0
[03:54:02] <Bytram> ;)
[03:54:51] <Sulla> Wow rude
[03:55:05] <Sulla> But reasonable because I have not yet actually smoked one today
[03:55:12] <Sulla> And the store is closed
[03:55:17] <Bytram> poutine-- for good measure
[03:55:17] <Bender> karma - poutine: -415
[03:56:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> pooteen--
[03:56:00] <Bender> karma - pooteen: -1
[03:56:09] <Sulla> All I got is the box I got for my boys being born three years ago. Only have enough for a cigar every 5 years when enough for both twins my AC friend and I when they turn 18
[03:56:22] <Sulla> Now I got a craving
[03:56:37] <Bytram> you could always, i suppose, buy some more?
[03:56:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. i think you can still get cubans legal like.
[03:56:59] <Sulla> Closes at 7 pacific
[03:57:12] <Sulla> I assume cubans are garbage
[03:57:34] <Sulla> From what ive heard from others. Nicaragua and DR put out good stuff
[03:59:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft. they're on crack. they may be vile commie bastards but they know their smoking.
[04:00:33] <Bytram> ~whoup nicotine
[04:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> !
[04:00:57] <Bytram> !whoup nicotine
[04:00:57] <Bender> uppers of nicotine are: TheMightyBuzzard: 481, Runaway1956: 41, jasassin: 17, mecctro: 8, xhedit: 2, Subsentient: 1, Naze: 1, Yog-Lurker: 1, Alberto: 1, Sulla: 1, SanDiegoChargers: 1, Yog-Yogguth: 1
[04:01:03] <Bytram> !woop
[04:01:03] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[04:01:09] <Bytram> !whodown nicotine
[04:01:09] <Bender> downers of nicotine are: Gravis: -50, jasassin: -2, takyon: -1
[04:01:19] <Bytram> ~seen gravis
[04:01:20] <exec> Bytram, gravis was last seen in #Soylent 417 days, 17 hours, 17 minutes, 47 seconds ago with message: TheMightyBuzzard: so you just want a fight in the comments section, no matter how stupid, eh?
[04:02:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. it's way past my bedtime. see yall tomorrow.
[04:02:38] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[04:02:39] * exec proverbially stuffs a safe space of tomato sammiches into TheMightyBuzzard
[04:02:54] <Bytram> you say...
[04:07:52] <Bytram> time for some shuteye for me, too.
[04:21:29] <Sulla> At doctor with kids and nobody to shitpost with. Guess its time for /pol/
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[04:46:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Announces Core H Laptop Chips With AMD Graphics and High Bandwidth Memory - http://sylnt.us - AMD-Inside™
[06:17:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Store Information in Your Clothes Invisibly, Without Electronics - http://sylnt.us - Madame-Defarge
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[07:24:28] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 17°C/63°F, 4:24 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
[07:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First-Ever Fiber Optic Cable Between U.S. and India Via Brazil and South Africa - http://sylnt.us - did-you-get-the-cable-I-sent-you?
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[09:26:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Big Brother Isn't Just Watching: Workplace Surveillance Can Track Your Every Move - http://sylnt.us - if-they-track-your-every-move,-it's-best-to-hold-still
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[09:28:33] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 17°C/62°F, 6:28 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
[10:53:53] <chromas> vim--
[10:53:53] <Bender> karma - vim: 4
[10:54:20] <boru> chromas--
[10:54:20] <Bender> karma - chromas: 191
[10:55:17] <chromas> They changed something. When I go to select with the mouse in the terminal, it goes to some retarded Visual mode and the selection doesn't go into the middle-mouse buffer.
[10:55:36] <chromas> it only copies one character
[10:56:01] <chromas> change--
[10:56:01] <Bender> karma - change: -2
[10:56:12] <chromas> harumph++
[10:56:12] <Bender> karma - harumph: 1
[10:56:21] <boru> NFI. I don't compile in mouse support.
[10:56:55] <boru> Did you build it yourself? If not, I suspect whomever built it is reponsible.
[10:57:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Essen 2017: Best Board Games from the Biggest Board Game Convention - http://sylnt.us - how-big-is-the-biggest-board-game,-anyway?
[10:57:58] <chromas> just using the stock arch build. I guess if they like systemd, next thing I know they'll beenable X support in emacs by default
[10:58:03] <chromas> Oh, wait
[10:58:52] <boru> Ah, there you go, then.
[10:59:53] <chromas> suite
[11:00:00] <chromas> set mouse=
[11:00:00] <chromas> fixes it
[11:00:11] <boru> Fixes arch linux?
[11:00:12] <chromas> they automatically change it to things now
[11:00:24] <chromas> fixes the helmet-wearing option
[11:00:40] <chromas> thanks mate
[11:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:10:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3741
[11:40:52] <SoyGuest64926> http://www.cs.vu.nl
[11:42:59] <chromas> Now Linus needs to up his ante
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[11:49:51] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at Xyem
[11:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:56:12] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 504
[12:16:33] <Xyem> Hey, didn't notice I lost my nick.. again
[12:27:14] <Xyem> Set up my bouncer to try and keep it now :)
[12:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quark Fusion Releases More Energy than Deuterium-Tritium Fusion, but is Unlikely to be Exploited - http://sylnt.us - top-bottom-up-down-charmed,-I'm-sure
[12:34:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> Xyem, cool cool.
[12:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, planning on starting a site coding push after new years if you're down. nuke a bunch of issues off the tracker.
[12:54:15] <Xyem> Definitely!
[12:55:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool. think we're gonna go like 95% bug-fix.
[12:55:45] <Xyem> I hate bugs, so I'm happy with that :)
[12:56:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind ya, i won't have a bad word for anything you feel like doing before then. i just won't likely have time for much myself until all the current and near future craziness clears up.
[13:01:06] <cmn32480> 'specially spiders... tehy give me the creeps
[13:01:28] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:01:30] * exec readily waves a pint of windows 95 at TheMightyBuzzard
[13:01:36] <cmn32480> ~gday Xyem
[13:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[13:01:39] * exec deliciously kipes a stash of bellybutton lint from Xyem
[13:01:39] * exec cautiously cracks open a DD cup of hamster dance for cmn32480
[13:01:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt boomtang boys hamster dance 2.0
[13:01:53] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[13:02:43] <cmn32480> coffee++
[13:02:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3742
[13:04:28] <xhedit> ah dang, I flamed MDC without logging out. whoops :D
[13:05:38] <cmn32480> Own it!
[13:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, logging out before flaming is for wimps
[13:07:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[13:07:15] <upstart> ^ 03The Best Spiderman & StormTrooper dance off Ever (Boogie Storm) - YouTube
[13:07:37] <xhedit> I usually don't bother flaming people, but it triggers me when people say linux isn't good on the desktop
[13:08:00] <xhedit> hello have you tried other operating systems, they are just as bad. you can't do shit on a mac and windows requires installing 304095821094250 shady installers
[13:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can edit video more efficiently on a mac. that's about it.
[13:09:39] <xhedit> premiere on windows is more common afaik
[13:10:02] <xhedit> i use kdenlive when i want to splice a video out, which is rare
[13:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, linux suits my video needs but for a proper content producer i wouldn't recommend it.
[13:11:30] <xhedit> if you're doing video stuff you already failed anyway, use a shitbox and suck it up
[13:11:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i wouldn't recommend windows for it because all the "good" video editors are crashy, buggy pieces of shit last i checked.
[13:12:06] <xhedit> there are no good editors, there is only premiere which is a buggy crashy piece of shit on every os
[13:12:25] <xhedit> I haven't used it in half a decade but I can't imagine an adobe product getting better.
[13:12:27] <cmn32480> I reemble that remark!
[13:12:39] <cmn32480> s/reemble/resemble/
[13:12:39] <upstart> <cmn32480> I resemble that remark!
[13:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> premiere is not a good editor. not by professional standards.
[13:14:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a niche thing but there're a few people on the planet who really can justify owning a mac. the rest of them just enjoy the smell of their own farts.
[13:14:35] <xhedit> so what, final cut
[13:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> or similar, yeah.
[13:14:55] <xhedit> when i was in college all the comm majors were on premiere
[13:15:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> difference between college and work, right there.
[13:15:47] <xhedit> the point was to get them used to what they were ostensibly going to use in production work
[13:15:52] <cmn32480> buzzard - but the Macs are powered by their owners overwhelming sense of self righteousness!
[13:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> xhedit, yeah, like learning java is sposed to make you a competent coder...
[13:17:14] <xhedit> luckily colleges are moving to python, so new college grads will be even more useless than java-grads :)
[13:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> if they knew their ass from a hole in the ground they'd be raking in six figures in private industry not teaching.
[13:17:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! yup.
[13:19:02] <xhedit> the average cs grad probably doesn't know what a build system is, and thinks javascript frameworks are rad
[13:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> they are rad though... in the sense of "how many rads can you absorb before you die of radiation poisoning"
[13:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight. time for me to run. lot of stuff needs doing today.
[13:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday ya fookers
[13:21:09] * exec sneakily formulates a photograph of blood thinners for ya fookers
[14:05:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Art and Science of Being Charismatic - http://sylnt.us - seems-to-be-appearance-over-substance
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[14:25:58] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 21°C/69°F, 11:25 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
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[15:39:01] <Xyem> Afternoon cmn32480 :)
[15:45:18] <Xyem> xhedit: If people tell you Linux isn't good for the desktop, they can come and explain how to transfer my setup to.. anything else
[15:45:20] <Xyem> I wish them luck
[15:46:13] <cmn32480> if you ahve extra luck, I will gladly take it off your hands
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[17:03:24] <soycow1984> #submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[17:03:25] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:03:50] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah. flipping off the boss is never a wise career move.
[17:04:29] <soycow1984> yup
[17:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i could pull it off but it takes a specific social skill set
[17:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> meaning they better laugh when you do it
[17:06:24] <soycow1984> setting the stage?
[17:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> something like. you gotta be known for your humor.
[17:07:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dust Belts and Possible Additional Exoplanet Spotted Around Proxima Centauri - http://sylnt.us - to-clean-up-all-that-dust-you'd-need-a-really-big-vacuum...-Oh?-Wait.
[17:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, 🖕
[17:08:40] <soycow1984> and not be employed by people without one
[17:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[17:09:04] <soycow1984> #submit https://threatpost.com
[17:09:04] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> which, really, you don't want to be anyway unless the pay's outstanding.
[17:09:30] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:09:30] <soycow1984> true dat
[17:10:28] <soycow1984> which reminds me it's time to watch Men In Black again
[17:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> busy morning. think i'm off for a nap before i go run around doing more annoying crap.
[17:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> good idea
[17:10:42] <soycow1984> Sounds like a good plan. Enjoy!
[17:10:47] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[17:10:53] * soycow1984 waves back
[17:12:14] * cmn32480 flips the Buzzard the finger
[17:12:25] <soycow1984> well played sir
[17:12:37] <cmn32480> he deserves it
[17:12:46] <cmn32480> taking a nap while the rest of us are working
[17:13:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't giving the buzzard the bird kind of redundant though?
[17:13:19] <soycow1984> not if its a dead bird.
[17:13:21] <cmn32480> prolly...
[17:13:28] <cmn32480> you give it to everybody esle just by showing up
[17:13:35] <soycow1984> or cannibalism
[17:13:36] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles and wanders off
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[18:16:54] <soycow1984> #submit https://securityintelligence.com
[18:16:56] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:17:21] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[18:17:32] <soycow1984> #submit https://securityintelligence.com
[18:17:33] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[18:17:58] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[18:46:37] <Sulla> Anyone here know about construction / home additions?
[18:47:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Critical Tor Flaw Leaks Users’ Real IP Address - http://sylnt.us - tor-springs-a-leak
[20:17:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Not Committing to $1 Billion Irish Data Center - http://sylnt.us - must-be-galling
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[21:12:34] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, -1°C/31°F, 1:12 pm PST, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
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[21:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, whatcha wanna know?
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[21:26:42] <Sulla> Planning to add a second story to my house. Already have a room above the garage. Trying to figure out where to start. Been reading up on it a bunch but a lot of it boils down to calling a contractor. I am fine with that, but prefer to have a good idea before then.
[21:27:13] <Sulla> So for inspecting the foundation, things I need to look for to see if it can hold the weight (before paying someone to do so)
[21:27:32] <Sulla> Also inspecting the walls for same reason. 2x4 vs 2x6 and distance between
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[21:31:23] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 19°C/67°F, 6:31 pm GMT-3, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
[21:41:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, got distracted by a friend on IM
[21:43:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, you don't need a contractor for that, you need an architect. contractors aren't capable of doing the math necessary for making things not fall down, just of getting them built.
[21:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> now a contractor will hire an architect if they need to know but...
[21:46:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly though, i've never heard of anyone adding a second story to a one story home after it was built. there's a very good chance it simply can't be done without tearing the whole thing down and starting over.
[21:47:06] <chromas> Would you have to rebuild the walls and foundation to support the weight?
[21:47:12] <Sulla> In my area it happens quite often, seems to normally be 130-150 a square foot
[21:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> horizontal expansion is way mo easy.
[21:47:14] <Sulla> Normally no
[21:48:00] <Sulla> Appears that if you have 2x4 or 2x6 walls that are 16in apart or less, and the foundation is 8in thick or more, normally you are fine
[21:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh. well good on ya then.
[21:49:02] <Sulla> Sadly no ability to build out
[21:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i woulda expected first story walls to have more beef to them. at least the load-bearing ones and corners and such like.
[21:50:29] <Sulla> That's what I was expecting, I figured 2x6 would be necessary but that appears to not be the case
[21:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit man... you live in a pretty dense city or something? even wicked poor people around here have room if not funds for at least doubling their house size.
[21:52:23] <Sulla> I have a AC roommate who will pays 700 in rent but doesnt believe in cars because of implied concent
[21:52:38] <Sulla> So im stuck looking for places in a specific area.
[21:53:54] <Sulla> If I buy I am limited to 4 bedrooms with no yard for 275k. If I buy the place im in (4 bed + two living spaces on .26 acre) I can get it for 120 and build a second story (if feasable) for 150-200. House is worth 230
[21:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "doesnt believe in cars" ... You should probably turn him in for being a commie spy.
[21:54:11] <Sulla> After remodle would be worth 350
[21:54:16] <Sulla> Kek
[21:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1-800-call-spy will get you the FBI's counterespionage line.
[21:56:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Next-Generation Transit Survey Finds Large Gas Giant Orbiting Red Dwarf - http://sylnt.us - it-ate-too-many-tacos
[21:56:25] <Sulla> Big if true
[21:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously. it will.
[21:57:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to call it from payphones and rat my english teacher out for being a commie.
[21:57:58] <Sulla> Good to know
[21:58:06] <Sulla> Being in eugene I have a great use for that
[21:58:36] <Sulla> Member of city council ran and won as a commie
[21:58:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh
[21:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight. i gotta go again. stuff to get done before dinner time or i gotta eat late.
[21:59:47] <Sulla> Cya. I should be working anyways
[22:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com We won't be doing this. I don't even want to see hashes of you folks naked.
[22:18:43] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[22:19:08] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[22:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://theweek.com Crap! Where am I going to store my TRS-80 programs now?
[22:23:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[22:24:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[22:33:34] <exec> welcome NCommander: New York, NY, 6°C/43°F, 5:33 pm EST, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
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[22:51:13] <exec> welcome chromas: Walla Walla, WA, 1°C/34°F, 2:51 pm PST, Tuesday, 7 November 2017
[22:53:55] <chromas> facebook nudes will totally be unhackable
[22:54:05] <chromas> from the wink dept
[22:57:45] <Sulla> I think someone putting them on facebook deserves what happens to them
[22:59:19] <Sulla> TheMightyBuzzard: link doesnt work for me
[23:05:05] <Sulla> Nevermind
[23:26:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cable Operator Altice to Sell Wireless with Sprint - http://sylnt.us
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[23:55:08] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6773, owned by SavitriDevi