#soylent | Logs for 2018-02-14

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[01:35:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Bringing Accelerated Mobile Pages to Email - http://sylnt.us - ActiveX-2.0
[01:58:38] <chromas> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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[02:37:12] <bacterium> sriracha++
[02:37:12] <Bender> karma - sriracha: 1
[02:37:19] <bacterium> wasabi++
[02:37:19] <Bender> karma - wasabi: 3
[02:37:29] <bacterium> <3 the hot stuff
[02:37:54] <chromas> I've never had wasabi, but sriracha's hot?
[02:38:07] <bacterium> so.... u never had either?
[02:38:27] <bacterium> no, wait, you never have hadn't any no neither?
[02:38:39] <chromas> I've had cocksauce but it'weren't hot. Maybe other brands spice it up
[02:39:02] <chromas> /nick contrarian
[02:39:28] <bacterium> *g Huy Fong Foods
[02:39:33] <bacterium> what's the magic?
[02:39:36] <chromas> #
[02:39:42] <bacterium> # Huy Fong Foods
[02:39:49] <bacterium> #g Huy Fong Foods
[02:39:49] <chromas> oh, you still need the d
[02:39:49] <MrPlow> http://www.huyfong.com - "Later that name became the inspiration namesake of his beloved company, Huy Fong Foods. After the United States accepted Tran as a refugee when no other countries would, he started right away doing what he did best -- making hot sauce. So in 1980, he started his chili legacy in a 5,000 sq foot building nestled near ..."
[02:39:53] <upstart> ^ 03Huy Fong Foods, Inc. – Known Worldwide for Our HOT Chili Sauces
[02:40:03] <bacterium> that's the best sriracha
[02:40:10] * chromas misspells a single letter
[02:40:50] <chromas> Isn't that the original cocksauce?
[02:41:23] <bacterium> some indeed are not hot, and their creators should be lined up and shot
[02:41:27] <bacterium> with wet t-shirts
[02:41:46] <chromas> Dip 'em in tea—tea shirts :)
[02:41:46] <bacterium> or with expensive camera equipment
[02:41:51] <bacterium> NOT BULLETS
[02:42:08] <chromas> Bullets are precious
[02:42:33] * chromas saves 'em for those who politically disagree with him on the internet
[02:43:05] <bacterium> people really don't care much for preserving bullets
[02:43:22] <bacterium> just the other day i saw a bulleted list like 50 sntries long
[02:43:29] <bacterium> s/sntries/entries/
[02:43:31] <exec> <bacterium> just the other day i saw a bulleted list like 50 entries long
[02:43:57] <bacterium> i was like holy shit they must have ran out of gum
[02:44:01] <chromas> to make their Points more Powerful
[02:44:06] <bacterium> omg ikr
[02:46:17] <Sulla> Like real wasabi or died horseraddish?
[02:47:20] <chromas> He's a fan of Winamp 3
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[03:47:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "The Great Transformation": Demographics, Automation and Inequality - http://sylnt.us - nostradamus
[03:54:19] <takyon> sriracha is good
[03:58:04] <Bytram> mechanicjay: I will second what boru said about 6502 assembler... quite straightforward. Sadly, it reminds me that I prolly through out the book that taught me 6502 assembly somewhere along the line. Name is not quite at the tip of my tongue... I'll post here if it comes back to me.
[04:01:16] <Bytram> s/ough/ew/
[04:01:18] <exec> <Bytram> mechanicjay: I will second what boru said about 6502 assembler... quite straightforward. Sadly, it reminds me that I prolly threw out the book that taught me 6502 assembly somewhere along the line. Name is not quite at the tip of my tongue... I'll post here if it comes back to me.
[04:02:10] <Bytram> mind you that is assuming you know any assembler at all.
[04:05:59] <Bytram> first search result was, IMO, poorly written; avoid: https://en.wikibooks.org
[04:06:00] <upstart> ^ 036502 Assembly - Wikibooks, open books for an open world
[04:11:01] <Bytram> mechanicjay: I remembered it! Here's the book I learned 6502 assembly from: "Programming the 6502" by Rodnay Zaks
[04:13:56] <Bytram> well, this looks promising...
[04:16:35] <takyon> i wonder what's on wikibooks lately
[04:22:18] <Bytram> mechanicjay: Take a look at this: https://archive.org
[04:22:20] <upstart> ^ 03Programming the 6502 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
[04:22:28] <Bytram> takyon: no idea
[04:23:27] <takyon> https://en.wikibooks.org
[04:23:27] <upstart> ^ 03First Aid/Internal Bleeding - Wikibooks, open books for an open world
[04:29:08] <Bytram> tieing
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[06:55:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Very Large Telescope's ESPRESSO Combines Light From All Four Unit Telescopes for the First Time - http://sylnt.us - psyched-they're-synched
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[07:25:16] <Whoever> How about a story based on this: https://www.google.com
[07:25:22] <upstart> ^ 03#poowatch - Google Search
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[07:40:44] <chromas> What about jenkem?
[08:25:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ARM Announces "Project Trillium" Machine Learning and Object Detection Processors - http://sylnt.us - TOPS-that!
[08:27:39] <boru> Oh, someone already posted the ESPRESSO story. Boo.
[10:07:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gen-Z Core Specification 1.0 Published for Higher Performance Interconnects - http://sylnt.us - tying-things-together
[11:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:33:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3948
[11:35:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Horizons Spacecraft Will Take a "Pale Blue Dot" Photo in 2019 - http://sylnt.us - you-think-you-have-challenges-with-debugging?
[11:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... it's going to be a while before i can make an "over 9000" dragonball z joke about coffee's karma.
[12:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. stupid gym. i don't wanna do shit besides sit on my ass before my second 30oz cup of coffee.
[12:11:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately i'm over 40 now and can't get away with calling vidya exercise
[12:17:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.hardocp.com [Eds: Pull from the linked articles if you prefer. I used this link because I like the title.]
[12:17:26] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[12:17:52] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[12:19:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.securityweek.com
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[12:19:39] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[12:21:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.helpnetsecurity.com Cue the inevitable Spaceballs joke.
[12:21:38] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[12:22:04] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[13:03:36] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
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[13:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gene Activity After Death Could be Used for Forensic Investigations - http://sylnt.us - dead-men-don't-talk-but-they-can-still-tell-stories
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[14:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[14:26:19] * exec suspiciously cyberbullies a wagon of stale doughnuts at cmn32480
[14:35:34] <cmn32480> how was the gym?
[14:36:05] <cmn32480> I waved as I ate my stale doughnuts...
[14:45:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Salon Asks Ad-Blocking Users to Mine Cryptocurrency - http://sylnt.us - got-to-pay-for-those-adverts-somehow
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[15:51:24] <takyon> https://www.usatoday.com
[15:51:24] <upstart> ^ 03NSA shooting: Suspect arrested in incident outside gates of agency
[16:02:18] <cmn32480> I hate it when I wakl into the common bathroom in the building and all I hear is somebodys inside trying to get to the outsides....
[16:06:29] <takyon> execute order #2
[16:06:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Scientist Sentenced to 7.5 Years in a Turkish Prison - http://sylnt.us - wrong-place-wrong-time
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[16:20:53] <Sulla> Valentines day exists as a reminder before the spring season that you are alergic to everything, lest you forget
[16:22:24] <takyon> including romance
[16:22:49] <Sulla> Yeah
[16:22:51] <cmn32480> "holidays" that shoudl be lost to the annals of time
[16:23:28] <Sulla> Only been at work an hour and im already tired of hearing the women talk about the "sweet things" their others already did for them
[16:26:01] <cmn32480> mine got a (begrudging) card
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[16:30:30] <Sulla> I picked the wife up some 5 dollar orchids
[16:30:46] <Sulla> We are both cheap and not very romantic so it was not an issue
[16:30:57] <cmn32480> luicky
[16:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, got a mile in but my endorphins refused to kick in, so i quit cause my feet were hurting like hell.
[16:31:35] <cmn32480> I found a brownie in my gloves this morning... and a card or somethign that I didn't ahve time to look at on the table
[16:32:07] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[16:32:23] <Sulla> Brownie in gloves? Sounds like crumbs you will never fully get out
[16:32:28] <cmn32480> when I saw it was brownm I was hoping it wasn't a litter box tootsie roll
[16:32:59] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[16:33:00] <upstart> ^ 03Journal of The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[16:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> my most frequent booty call chick declared it "I hate men" day. to which i replied, "sounds like a good day to go fishing then".
[16:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, yeah. i'm rather happy with how that stream of thought wound itself out.
[16:45:32] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: To be fair, you seem to be the kind of guy who thinks EVERY day is a good day to go fishing.
[16:46:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly correct. i do object to fishing in heavy rain or high winds though.
[16:46:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> those things do not make my rather small boat a happy boat
[16:49:36] <Leebert> How about snow?
[16:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, snow doesn't do much to a lake.
[16:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't sink a boat if it fills one up while you're in it either
[16:56:43] <takyon> https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz
[16:56:44] <upstart> ^ 03Snow and ice density — Science Learning Hub
[17:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> informative but they should have included pure water's density as a reference.
[17:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[17:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[17:02:12] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 566
[17:02:14] <takyon> agree but it's pretty easy to figure out that pure water is 1000 kg / m^3
[17:02:18] <mechanicjay> Thanks for the link Bytram!
[17:02:44] <takyon> *liquid water
[17:03:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, only if you use the metric system in your actual life. it's easy to forget as trivia in the US.
[17:04:29] <Leebert> I'm nerdy enough that all of my thermostats and thermometers are set to Celsius.
[17:04:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> The US sucks at switching from systems that are terrible to ones that actually make sense.
[17:05:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> See also, Farenheit, non-SI weight units, health care.
[17:05:14] <Leebert> AndyTheAbsurd: It's worse than that. The US has a tendency to mix and match to get the worst of both.
[17:06:35] <Leebert> See for example Obamacare (the worst parts of private health insurance + the worst parts of socialized health care) and our unholy mixture of metric and US customary (rather than just picking one and sticking with it)
[17:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, nothing about setting the temperature scale to the freezing and boiling points of water rather than the range a human can operate outside in makes sense.
[17:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nearly every instance of temperature measurement spoken of in the world is in regards to the weather
[17:07:53] <Sulla> Psh. The whole world but america appears to be metric, but america has been to the moon
[17:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> and invented pizza
[17:10:28] <mechanicjay> We also invented the Internet, so suck it RoW!
[17:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, al gore was american, so we invented it.
[17:12:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, ima go grab a smoke n call my insurance agent what emailed me about lowering my rates. if it's legit, go him. if it's a sales pitch, i'm changing carriers.
[17:14:55] <takyon> https://slate.com
[17:14:56] <upstart> ^ 03Meet the columnist the New York Times hired and fired in just six hours
[17:17:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Several Injured Outside NSA Headquarters in Fort Meade - http://sylnt.us - blame-Snowden
[17:17:35] * AndyTheAbsurd wonders if it's going to be "turned out to be an actual Nazi"
[17:23:17] <takyon> who will own the "ram car into people" tactic
[17:23:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> fired for being friends with a troll?
[17:23:33] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles
[17:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're all fucked then.
[17:23:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOL
[17:24:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> Who says I count you as a friend?
[17:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> you laugh at many of my jokes, close enough.
[17:27:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.inverse.com
[17:27:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[17:28:07] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[17:28:27] <mechanicjay> Holy shit, NYT -- Now THAT's how you create a chilling effect. Well done! </s>
[17:29:08] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[17:29:09] <upstart> ^ 03Journal of takyon (881)
[17:29:24] <takyon> I vaguely remember Norton from Wired
[17:30:55] <mechanicjay> Unlike Hienlein's utopias where people are allowed to keep their public and private lives separate, it seems we're headed down a dangerous path where a person is completely defined by the worst thing about them, rather than the best.
[17:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i vaguely remember wired. it was bad enough they sided with the SJWs in gamergate but when they went to wordpress they just lost me entirely.
[17:31:30] <Sulla> Anyone have a good reference for gamergate
[17:31:45] <Sulla> My wife has been wanting to learn about it but its been so long I dont remember well
[17:31:45] <takyon> lolno
[17:31:51] <takyon> what's a gamergate?
[17:31:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, i doubt there is one anymore.
[17:31:55] <mechanicjay> With no control over the narrative of their own lives. The court of public opinion in is session, and NO, you can't take the stand to defend yourself.
[17:32:29] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:32:30] <upstart> ^ 03Gamergate - Wikipedia
[17:32:38] <Sulla> Heavily edited
[17:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, sure you can. the only way to beat SJWs is to remain unapologetic.
[17:32:54] <Sulla> Some game maker lady slept with reviewers to giver her good reviews
[17:33:00] <Sulla> Then lied about it
[17:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> extremely slanted, yeah. wikipedia definitely chose sides.
[17:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, naw. she slept with him and broke up with him before she ever got reviewed by him.
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[17:34:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> but that the game was shitty and got a glowing review because of politics is without question.
[17:35:05] <Sulla> Why do jehovah witness' get buttmad about valentines?
[17:35:27] <Sulla> Local school district dumping holiday so the JWs dont have to stay home or go to library
[17:35:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> Because they're jehovah's witnesses and get buttmad about EVERY holiday.
[17:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> habit i think. they get butthurt over all holidays.
[17:35:34] <mechanicjay> false idoltry perhaps?
[17:35:48] <takyon> Saint Valentine
[17:36:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> I mean, if you want specifics, it's probably because it's specifically "Saint Valentine's Day" and they're butthurt over perverting the idea of sainthood or something.
[17:36:11] <Sulla> I mean I hate catholics too
[17:36:18] <Sulla> But I dont get mad over it
[17:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't get that nobody really GAF about why a holiday exists, they just want their turkey or presents or flowers n candy or whatever.
[17:36:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> But they don't give gifts on Christmas or birthdays either, IIRC.
[17:37:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Barnes & Noble's "Bloody Monday" - http://sylnt.us - almost-there-now
[17:37:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> like nobody tells a black feller he can't get drunk on st pat's just cause he ain't got no irish.
[17:38:17] <takyon> you shouldn't s t i c k your d i c k in a PUSSY because of DAMNED DEVIL WORSHIPPING CATHOLICS and CORPORATE 3L33T5
[17:38:34] <takyon> witness dat
[17:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, you should take up spamming the site. it'd be a step up from the idjits who currently do.
[17:39:50] <takyon> TheMightyBuzzard: the site couldn't handle me going to the dark side.
[17:39:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not many people can really make you miss EF
[17:41:53] <Sulla> Tmb good journal
[17:43:19] <Sulla> So I think arist is probably more alt-right than anybody else on the board
[17:45:01] <takyon> I don't think so
[17:45:22] <takyon> but it would make a good entry in your journal
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[17:46:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, yes it would
[17:46:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon++
[17:46:07] <Bender> karma - takyon: 39
[17:46:24] <Sulla> Takyon++
[17:46:24] <Bender> karma - takyon: 40
[17:46:35] <Sulla> Dont have time today to do it sadly
[17:47:05] <Sulla> Spare time I have needs to be spent making a "elon musk built this in a cave, with a box of scraps" meme with the boeing ceos head cropped in
[17:48:26] <takyon> you mean the ULA guy?
[17:48:35] <takyon> the guy who goes on Reddit and plays KSP
[17:49:15] <takyon> Tory Bruno
[17:49:16] <takyon> https://arstechnica.com
[17:49:17] <upstart> ^ 03Elon Musk: I will “eat my hat” if a competitor’s rocket flies before 2023 | Ars Technica
[17:49:33] <takyon> https://twitter.com
[17:49:34] <upstart> ^ 03Tory Bruno (@torybruno) | Twitter
[17:49:56] <Sulla> Ueah my bad
[17:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh. i quite like rust the language but can't stand rust the community.
[17:51:01] <takyon> Bruno is making a good attempt at being cool but he can't overcome his company being a beltway bandit, or Elon Musk being mankind's meme savior
[17:51:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> bigger bunch of hipster sjw douchebags i have never seen outside of a berkeley intersectional feminist rally.
[17:52:05] <Sulla> Musk is the guy who got earth to the stars in like every SF
[17:52:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hadda stop contributing code to the irc library MrPlow uses cause the maintainer decided to put that cocktastic CoC that's going around in it
[17:52:18] <Sulla> Heinlein has random rich guy making space happen, niven, etc
[17:55:06] <takyon> the next 5 years are very important
[17:55:29] <takyon> one of our users forecasts certain doom for Musk
[17:55:47] <takyon> as in, character assassination, or a real one
[17:56:43] <Sulla> In "pillar to the sky"
[17:56:58] <Sulla> A billionare spent his 100 billion on building a space elevator
[17:57:15] <Sulla> Written by fortchen who is himself pretty conservative
[17:57:36] <Sulla> All sorts of state actors trying to destroy/stop oit because it disrupts the world petroeconomy
[17:57:45] <takyon> Breaking News: Car deliberately crashes into base of space elevator
[17:57:47] * cmn32480 enjoys rocking the boat sometimes :-)
[17:58:32] <Sulla> Musk making space that cheap changes things
[17:58:35] * TheMightyBuzzard enjoys rocking the casbah
[17:58:49] <Sulla> Hell if he pulls off BFR intraplanet transport
[17:58:52] <Sulla> Using methane/oxygen
[17:59:06] <Sulla> Is a threat to long distance planes
[17:59:16] <mechanicjay> I love having a song come across your playlist you've never heard before and having it stop you in your tracks 1/2 way through.
[17:59:20] <cmn32480> farts and air? that sounds like a good fuel
[18:00:33] <takyon> Sulla: After looking at it again I realize that I overlooked that the "spaceship" second stage can go to orbit itself without the booster, and probably fulfill the point to point transport goal
[18:01:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, that's a rare thing for me. only time in the past 20 years i can remember it happening was a violent femmes song.
[18:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> american music i think it was.
[18:02:47] <mechanicjay> Just now, it was the Jerry Garcia Band's cover of Tough Mama for me.
[18:02:50] <mechanicjay> https://www.youtube.com
[18:02:51] <upstart> ^ 03Jerry Garcia Band - Tough Mama - YouTube
[18:02:53] <mechanicjay> if you're into that sort of thing.
[18:02:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt violent femmes american music
[18:02:55] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[18:02:56] <upstart> ^ 03Violent Femmes - "American Music" (Official Music Video) - YouTube
[18:03:17] * TheMightyBuzzard in fact has a stealie tattooed on his chest
[18:06:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> chick in my platoon in AIT wanted to go get a tattoo and i couldn't let her be more manly than me so i hadda go with and get one too
[18:09:07] <Sulla> Takyon: did not realize that
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[18:09:26] <Sulla> The video they showed had the booster launching it up and then landing back on moorings
[18:09:33] * bacterium got "a tattoo" on shoulder, in bitstream charter
[18:10:26] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[18:10:27] <bacterium> omg i need to order some custom t-shirts, a guy around corner prints b/w for like $25
[18:10:41] <bacterium> i <3 them font t-shirts
[18:10:47] <bacterium> i want Charter
[18:10:50] <bacterium> (DUH)
[18:10:53] <takyon> that's the secret of the BFR, the spaceship stage is a lot more powerful than most final stages. allowing it to vertically land on or exit the gravity well of places like the Moon or Mars
[18:10:56] <bacterium> but also nimbus
[18:11:24] <bacterium> or may be charis sil, cuz it has cyrillics?
[18:11:28] <Sulla> https://m.youtube.com
[18:11:30] <upstart> ^ 03Rush - Countdown. Restored with "new" original Space Shuttle Columbia footage - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[18:11:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm currently quite fond of noto mono 11
[18:11:37] <Sulla> Need this updated for spacex
[18:12:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> works just as well in a terminal window as it does in an irc client
[18:12:33] <bacterium> 0=O there mon
[18:12:53] <bacterium> i would rather poke my eyes out
[18:13:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> what are you talking about...my IRC client lives in a terminal window, there's no separation there.
[18:13:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, i liberated mine on account of i'm a libertarian.
[18:14:11] <bacterium> i just have fiber sticking outta my brain, so this stream completely bypasses the os
[18:14:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Oh, I liberated mine too, but it couldn't pay the bills, so I indentured it to tmux and now it can never earn enough to get out again.
[18:14:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> :-D
[18:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacterium, probably saves time but it'd annoy me when it was haircut time.
[18:15:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, just so long as you whip it good when it gets uppity
[18:16:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt whip it
[18:16:40] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[18:16:41] <upstart> ^ 03Devo - Whip It (Video) - YouTube
[18:16:47] <bacterium> this is where you are wrong, TheMightyBuzzard (finally we gotcha!!!!); it actually wastes time like you won't believe, since about 78% of my brain power is consumed by cryptomining, thanks to the helpful unobtrusive ads i load in order to support the hard work of wank... er, content creators
[18:18:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacterium, what saving is relative to time is subjective. i, for instance, consider anything that allows me to spend more time fishing as saving time. others would disagree though. buncha fishists.
[18:19:37] <bacterium> :)
[18:19:39] <bacterium> dc
[18:19:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> and since it's on the right side bar on youtube at the moment...
[18:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> chameleon++
[18:19:49] <Bender> karma - chameleon: 13
[18:22:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... a quick glance at my CST clock says it's lunchtime (my UTC clock says it's beer time). i should do something about that.
[18:22:32] <cmn32480> sammich and a beer?
[18:22:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't argue with time
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[18:36:20] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[18:36:21] <upstart> ^ 03Ex-gymnast and Nassar survivor poses naked with the word 'survivor' - BBC News
[18:36:28] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[18:36:28] <upstart> ^ 03I reserve the right to bare arms - BBC News
[18:43:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define-add gumbo, Cajun for "Yeah, throw some of that in there".
[18:43:51] <exec> definition for term "gumbo" set to "Cajun for "Yeah, throw some of that in there"."
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[18:56:07] <chromas> Sulla: The best reference for gamergate is probably ed
[18:56:12] <chromas> (nsfw) https://encyclopediadramatica.rs
[18:56:13] <upstart> ^ 03GamerGate - Encyclopedia Dramatica
[18:56:41] <chromas> it's totally not biased at all
[19:13:46] <cmn32480> if it was biased people would die.
[19:13:55] <cmn32480> just liek they did from pulling of of the Paris Climate Deal
[19:13:57] <cmn32480> adn teh TPP
[19:14:05] <cmn32480> And the recenttax cuts that got passed
[19:14:14] <cmn32480> and Hillary losing the election
[19:16:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NIH Contributed to Research Related to Every One of 210 Newly Approved Drugs - http://sylnt.us - funding++
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[19:26:52] <Sulla> Pretty satisfied ttp got dead
[19:27:04] <Sulla> Though I imagine it will be back in some form eventually
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[20:18:32] <Sulla> Anyone got a suggestion of a good pellet pistol for killing rats in the attic?
[20:18:45] <Sulla> My BlackBerry gun wont have enough space to operate
[20:18:56] <Sulla> Bb*
[20:24:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> gumbo ftw
[20:26:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, 13 new messages since i went to eat lunch. the butthurt is flowing well today.
[20:28:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll have a nap now and let them really build up good before i dish out their helpings of smackdown
[20:45:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Browser Vendors to Restrict AppCache to Secure Connections - http://sylnt.us - MiTM-FTW
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[21:34:01] <Subsentient> You know, I don't understand why people say Fedora's package management is unstable. It's been positively bulletproof for me. O.o
[21:34:13] <Subsentient> I've had far more issues with Debian systems
[21:37:26] <chromas> I dunno about their package management, but Redhat does have a lot of smug.
[21:38:42] * chromas invents his own package format…with blackjack and hookers
[21:38:55] <Ingar> you mean pacman ?
[21:39:15] <chromas> Nah, I'm already using it.
[21:39:37] * chromas desires other blackjack and hookers
[21:40:18] <chromas> It's kinda weird when arch packages get juggled around though. "Do you want to replace this package with this other one?"
[21:40:46] <Ingar> it seems they like moving stuff to extra/
[21:41:01] <Ingar> I updated last weekend and it was kinda scary :D
[21:41:10] <chromas> There was just a whole swath of packages (for x I think) that all got moved into a single package a couple days ago
[21:41:47] <Ingar> even had to manually remove a package
[21:41:58] <chromas> or use -dd
[21:42:13] <Ingar> arch is more russian roulette than blackjack
[21:42:35] <Ingar> never say "I'll quickly upgrade my arch box"
[21:42:56] * chromas lives on the edge; doesn't watch the newsfeed
[21:43:19] <Ingar> and for blackjack and hookers
[21:43:26] <Ingar> the casino is a few km down the road
[21:43:32] <Ingar> hookers to, but in the other direction
[21:43:46] <Ingar> *too
[21:44:39] <Subsentient> chromas: I hate systemd, but other than that, I've never found a distro that could do a good job of being bleeding edge AND stable.
[21:44:45] <Subsentient> Just Fedora
[21:44:58] <chromas> Have you tried LFS again?
[21:45:15] <chromas> Just make a systemd timer that rebuilds all every day
[21:45:19] <chromas> or gento with emerge world
[21:45:20] <Subsentient> Not lately, no time, and my health is quite poor currently
[21:45:25] <Ingar> LFS is a pita to maintain
[21:45:40] <Ingar> (I actually switched from LFS to arch)
[21:45:48] <Ingar> after gentoo nuker my homedir on its first installation
[21:47:34] <Ingar> it was one hell of a learning experience though
[21:48:20] <chromas> Yeah; after lfs and arch, it kinda sucks going back to suse (in my case) or debian, with their weirdo defaults and tools
[21:48:37] <Subsentient> I just built my own without following LFS. Tarballs etc. Was great for years, but certain pieces got too old and I had to give up, no time to keep them up-to-date.
[21:48:41] * chromas gives debian the evil eye for start-after-install for services
[21:49:01] <chromas> Need to build them into packages so you can update 'em
[21:49:14] <Subsentient> Yeah, but a ton of work still
[21:49:23] <chromas> Did you get your package manager to a working state?
[21:49:33] <chromas> automation, good sir
[21:49:49] <Subsentient> Yeah, but no time to perfect it, much less deploy it,.
[21:49:56] <chromas> Was it Packrat? /me lost his irc logs awhile back
[21:50:10] <Subsentient> Yeah
[21:51:51] <Subsentient> I like packrat's codebase especially. It's fast.
[21:52:35] <chromas> Gotta port it to c++0x or whatever unreleased is called :D
[21:52:52] <chromas> Finally after decades of doing nothing, they're finally adding modules
[21:52:56] <Subsentient> Bleh lol
[21:53:06] <chromas> Catching up to the 19th century
[21:54:05] <Subsentient> C++ has a lot of flaws, but imho it's nowhere near as bad as people think.
[21:54:05] <Bender> karma - c: 69
[21:54:22] <chromas> Quick, lock c's karma!
[21:55:17] <Subsentient> The syntax is ugly as fuck but oh well. It's a decent language, and you get 99% of everything C has, except stuff like designated initializers, whih I miss in C++ lol
[21:56:42] <Subsentient> I've found uses for templates, too. Not very often but they *are* useful.
[21:57:30] <chromas> Qt uses the shit out of templates, and it's the only valid ui toolkit there is
[21:57:54] <Subsentient> Well there's GTK+, but I'm not a huge fan of GTK 3.
[21:58:26] <Ingar> Gtk is not a ui toolkit, it's masochism
[21:58:27] <Subsentient> I still prefer it to QT though, with its "moc" tool and associated bullshit.
[21:58:49] <Subsentient> QT makes you write in mutilated, bastardized C++
[21:58:55] <chromas> Subsentient: s/(it)(.*)(QT)/\3\2\1/
[21:58:58] <Subsentient> GTK works in straight C
[21:59:37] <Ingar> I"m stuck with a Gtk ui in a C++ project. the horror
[21:59:44] <Ingar> tbh it's Gtk2 though
[21:59:51] <Subsentient> Ingar: Written with the C bindings?
[22:00:10] <Ingar> yep
[22:00:11] <chromas> I like that GTK 3 supports CSS (I think) but I don't like that their themes aren't tweakable (like colors) and client-side window decorations are an abomination unto the lord
[22:00:34] <Ingar> Subsentient: fortunatly, someone else is cleaning it up now
[22:00:38] <Subsentient> chromas: Thankfully client side windows are avoidable in GTK 3.
[22:01:30] <chromas> Yeah, but guhnome three
[22:01:47] <Subsentient> Ingar: I've been writing C++ with the C gtk bindings, it's ugly but it doesn't really bother me much. Of course, there's gtkmm, to give a less hideous, C++ specific set of bindings.
[22:02:55] <Subsentient> I wish they'd merge it with base GTK though, cuz as it is, it adds a dependency.
[22:03:54] <Subsentient> Which is why I decided to just use the C bindings, since I'm happy to write C-like C++.
[22:06:47] * chromas invents ++C
[22:06:55] <Subsentient> Lol
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