#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-09

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[00:07:02] <Bytram> #g mammal
[00:07:03] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Mammals are the vertebrates within the class Mammalia a clade of endothermic amniotes distinguished from reptiles (including birds) by the possession of a neocortex (a region of the brain), hair, three middle ear bones, and mammary glands. Females of all mammal species nurse their young with milk, secreted from the ..."
[00:08:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: you sure you want to see my hairy man-teats?
[00:08:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> carpe ubera
[00:09:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Kingdom / Phylum / 'Mammalia' / Order / Family / Genus / Species... ISTM your requirement may require some refinement
[00:09:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> or better yet, exhibeo ubera
[00:09:42] <Bytram> #g shrew
[00:09:42] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "A shrew (family Soricidae) is a small mole-like mammal classified in the order Eulipotyphla. True shrews are not to be confused with West Indies shrews, treeshrews, otter shrews, or elephant shrews, which belong to different families or orders. Although its external appearance is generally that of a long-nosed mouse, ..."
[00:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i was thinking anyone that was still interested after seeing that CoC would be the kind of people we could work with around here.
[00:11:39] <Bytram> well... given the restriction is, effectively, non-restrictive... methinks you may want to revisit your 'requirement'
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[00:11:52] <Bytram> #g elephant
[00:11:53] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Elephants are large mammals of the family Elephantidae and the order Proboscidea. Three species are currently recognised: the African bush elephant (Loxodonta africana), the African forest elephant (L. cyclotis), and the Asian elephant (Elephas maximus). Elephants are scattered throughout sub-Saharan Africa, South ..."
[00:12:08] <Bytram> #g jackal
[00:12:09] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Jackals are medium-sized omnivorous mammals of the genus Canis, which also includes wolves, coyotes and the domestic dog. While the word \"jackal\" has historically been used for many small canids, in modern use it most commonly refers to three species: the closely related black-backed jackal and side-striped jackal of ..."
[00:12:17] <Bytram> #g hyena
[00:12:17] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Hyenas or hyaenas (from Greek ὕαινα hýaina) are any feliform carnivoran mammals of the family Hyaenidae /haɪˈɛnɪdiː/. With only four extant species, it is the fifth-smallest biological family in the Carnivora, and one of the smallest in the class Mammalia. Despite their low diversity, hyenas are unique and vital ..."
[00:12:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> #g OG
[00:12:26] <MrPlow> https://www.urbandictionary.com - "OG stands for \"Original\" Short for \"Original username\". Any cool name on social media is considered an OG."
[00:12:40] <chromas> The restriction is people who don't get butthurt over words and then stick around
[00:12:43] <Bytram> per your CoC, all of the preceding would qualify
[00:13:02] <Bytram> brb dishes
[00:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nobody said they had to be YOUR tits.
[00:13:21] * chromas made the same miss steak
[00:13:28] * Bytram rummages around goodwill for a Ken doll
[00:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> we'll take a pet rock if it can code perl and not be a pain in the ass
[00:13:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> then I should just point you to one of the better parts of reddit: https://reddit.com
[00:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. reddit sucks. the UI is utter shit.
[00:16:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> Let's play a game: Reddit or rehash.
[00:16:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which one allows you to buy a subscription for yourself or someone else?
[00:16:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which one puts the username of a commenter above the comment?
[00:17:01] <chromas> Trick question. Nobody subscribes
[00:17:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which one has UI themes?
[00:17:46] <chromas> reddit has res
[00:17:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which one lets you collapse portions of comment threads?
[00:18:17] * chromas suspects all the answers are "both"
[00:18:44] * AndyTheAbsurd gives chromas gets 3/4ths of a cookie
[00:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> which one doesn't make you fight with uMatrix to get the fucking site to work?
[00:18:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> Reddit doesn't have UI themes by default.
[00:19:18] <chromas> We could fork reddit code and make js unrequired
[00:19:29] <chromas> and limit comment scores to -1 to 5
[00:19:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> uMatrix is bullshit anyway; RequestPolicy Continued is *far* superior. :-P
[00:20:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> your mom uses emacs
[00:20:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> your mom uses ex
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[00:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> my mom uses echo
[00:22:22] <chromas> whale
[00:23:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> only 'cause she blind and navigates like a bat
[00:23:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> it's a good thing, too, consider how ugly *you* came out.
[00:34:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> draft #2: https://github.com
[00:34:59] <upstart> ^ 03rehash/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md at suckmy · TheMightyBuzzard/rehash · GitHub
[00:37:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[00:37:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[00:37:49] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 593
[00:40:20] <Sulla> Themightybuzzard: oi does that mean I can fuck around in prod without telling anyone in irc?
[00:40:52] <Sulla> Also whats monekying
[00:41:19] <chromas> Monetizing your lube
[00:41:30] <Sulla> Cthulhu is spelled with an h at the end there
[00:42:39] <chromas> Maybe you could get NCommander to write up a coc. That way, people who care about cocs will give up and leave before they can finish it :D
[00:42:58] <Sulla> Coc to me means call of cthulhu so was kind of disapointed
[00:43:20] <Sulla> I cant spell so I would never be accepted as more than a logged on user, so I get my rocks off pointing out small errors
[00:43:52] <chromas> Sounds like you're fit to be an editor. Welcome to the team!
[00:44:14] <Sulla> Someone irl asked me if I went to a site called soylentnews
[00:44:20] <Sulla> I told them I self identify as an editor
[00:44:33] <chromas> What are your pronouns?
[00:45:05] <Sulla> Didnt think this out enough.
[00:45:18] <Sulla> Thats not a question I expected, but should have
[00:45:33] <chromas> I suggest such options as vim and emacs
[00:45:43] <Sulla> Haha
[00:46:18] <chromas> I saw Sulla the other day. I asked emacs if vim could spare a moment to talk about soylent
[00:46:29] <Sulla> Those seem legit
[00:46:49] <Sulla> Guess I should change my font to helvetica
[00:47:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, bitching about typos will get you smaked
[00:47:17] <Sulla> https://en.m.wikipedia.org(film)
[00:47:18] <upstart> ^ 03Helvetica (film) - Wikipedia
[00:47:29] <Sulla> Along with like 50other things
[00:47:59] * chromas recalls a joke about fonts in the Adventures of Pete & Pete on Nickelodeon a hundred years ago
[00:48:12] <Sulla> Hustwit on his inspiration for the film: "When I started this project, I couldn't believe that a film like this didn't exist already, because these people are gods and goddesses. What they do is more than just logos and corporate branding - they design the type that we read every day in newspapers and magazines, onscreen and on television. Fonts don't just appear out of Microsoft Word: there are human beings and huge stories behind them
[00:48:16] <chromas> Kids were into typography back then
[00:49:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> and re: not being able to spell... that doesn't get you off the hook. it gets you made an editor.
[00:49:52] <Sulla> I figure eventually ill win the lottery and ill buy all of you out, then sit in my ivory tower
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[00:50:03] <Sulla> And not change a damn thing
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[00:50:53] <Sulla> I need to give away them BlackBerry q10s but writing a journal entry to not be full of sentence fragments is hard
[00:51:16] <chromas> It'd be pretty amusing to get bought up by BizX
[00:51:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would you want to do that anyway?
[00:51:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> write without sentence fragments i mean.
[00:51:42] <Sulla> To feel more professional
[00:51:52] <Sulla> I wanted to do a super professional post on april fools
[00:51:57] <Sulla> Then send out phones anyways
[00:52:44] <Sulla> I hope it spurs people to do other random giveaways to prompt people to buy subscriptions. Like raffle off 10 old p1 processors they have had kickin around in a desk for two decades
[00:52:57] <Sulla> I want to see what amusing things happen
[00:54:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have a half dozen or so original doom shareware discs back in OK we could give out as prizes or something.
[00:55:40] <Bytram> ~nelson
[00:55:41] <exec> 03: HA! HA!
[00:55:44] <Bytram> https://www.cnbc.com
[00:56:51] <chromas> Oh wow, a site that gives an attribute to the title tag
[00:57:03] * chromas checks the regex
[00:57:20] <Bytram> ~title on
[00:57:22] <exec> titles enabled for 10#soylent
[00:57:24] <Bytram> https://www.cnbc.com
[00:58:16] <Bytram> ^^^ <title itemprop="name">Chinese toddler disables mom's iPhone for 47 years</title>
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[00:59:20] <Bytram> chromas: (<title[^>]*>)(.*)(</title>)
[00:59:23] <Bytram> https://www.cnbc.com
[00:59:24] <upstart> ^ 03Chinese toddler disables mom's iPhone for 47 years
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[00:59:29] <Bytram> upstart++
[00:59:30] <Bender> karma - upstart: 1
[00:59:35] <Bytram> chromas++
[00:59:35] <Bender> karma - chromas: 207
[00:59:52] <chromas> fpos bot
[01:00:07] <chromas> the regex it's using is <title.*?>(?P<x>(\n|.)*?)</title>
[01:00:19] <chromas> not sure it's the best though
[01:00:31] * chromas added the .*? in title
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[01:01:45] <chromas> https://www.cnbc.com
[01:01:45] <upstart> ^ 03Chinese toddler disables mom's iPhone for 47 years
[01:02:00] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:02:01] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[01:02:02] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[01:02:07] <chromas> no death so far. I didn't change nuffin' this time
[01:02:11] <Bytram> http:/dell.com
[01:02:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoylentNews is pee-pole
[01:02:39] <Bytram> chromas: does dell have no title?
[01:03:01] <chromas> Not enough slashes
[01:03:17] <chromas> here's the url regex :D (?:(?:https?|ftp):\/\/)(?:\S+(?::\S*)?@)?(?:(?!(?:10|127)(?:\.\d{1,3}){3})(?!(?:169\.254|192\.168)(?:\.\d{1,3}){2})(?!172\.(?:1[6-9]|2\d|3[0-1])(?:\.\d{1,3}){2})(?:[1-9]\d?|1\d\d|2[01]\d|22[0-3])(?:\.(?:1?\d{1,2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])){2}(?:\.(?:[1-9]\d?|1\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-4]))|(?:(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]-*)*[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]+)(?:\.(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]-*)*[a-z\u00a1-\uffff0-9]+)*(?:\.(?:[a-z\u00a1-\uffff]{2,}))\
[01:03:17] <chromas> .?)(?::\d{2,5})?(?:[/?#]\S*)?
[01:03:21] <Sulla> Shit 6 doom disks, thats a good one. I need to get this thing posted
[01:03:40] <chromas> http://dell.com
[01:03:40] <upstart> ^ 03Access Denied ( http://www.dell.com )
[01:03:42] <exec> └─ 13Dell United States Official Site | Dell United States
[01:03:47] <fyngyrz> lol regex sux
[01:04:08] <chromas> Yeah, I could remove the ftp bit
[01:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> regex is god
[01:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> that however is a damned silly regex.
[01:05:31] <chromas> hm, curl http://dell.com returns empty for me
[01:05:33] <exec> └─ 13Dell United States Official Site | Dell United States
[01:05:51] <fyngyrz> $aa {threat}
[01:05:52] <fungus> Don't make me open a can of 04regex on you
[01:06:21] <chromas> It's the best regex for urls :)
[01:07:03] <chromas> https://mathiasbynens.be
[01:07:04] <upstart> ^ 03In search of the perfect URL validation regex
[01:07:05] <exec> └─ 13In search of the perfect URL validation regex
[01:09:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, let's test this
[01:09:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
[01:09:16] <MrPlow> Off I shall piss...
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[01:12:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #pissoff
[01:12:50] <MrPlow> Off I shall piss...
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[01:23:36] <Sulla> Gg mosad
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[01:26:05] * chromas killed him
[01:26:17] <chromas> My bot had a bug causing the same issue
[01:26:24] * chromas fixed it though
[01:29:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not fixing it. he's got half a big pull request done and i ain't gonna finish it right now.
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[01:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... he should have loaded
[01:39:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, cron doesn't have my $PATH
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[01:40:17] <Bytram> must mean that was a PATHalogical case
[01:40:32] <mrpg> It is easy to confuse the Greek god of time, Chronos (Χρόνος), with Zeus’ Titan father, Kronos (Κρόνος).
[01:40:50] <mrpg> So it should be chron instead of cron?
[01:40:59] <mrpg> my life is a lie
[01:41:04] <mrpg> on time, but a lie.
[01:41:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> your life is the cake?
[01:41:19] <Bytram> mrpg: /me is muchly impressed with your knowledge of Greek
[01:41:20] <fyngyrz> the cake is a lye
[01:41:30] <mrpg> yes. And I'm full, I ate chinese food.
[01:41:34] <Bytram> let them eat... lye? Ewwww!
[01:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty basic pun there
[01:41:55] <mrpg> bytram: dont be, I just googled it.
[01:42:12] <Bytram> nice, anyway
[01:42:27] <mrpg> But I remember somewhere that chronos is father time, not cronos.
[01:42:37] <fyngyrz> let them eat msg
[01:42:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, mrplow should auto restart once a minute if he ever crashes again.
[01:42:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/if he ever/when he/
[01:43:01] <exec> <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, mrplow should auto restart once a minute when he crashes again.
[01:43:02] <Bytram> getting this in ahead of time...
[01:43:04] <Bytram> ~blame
[01:43:06] * exec points at Bytram
[01:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, it was your padwan chromas this time
[01:43:47] * chromas gives it a go
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[01:44:03] * chromas nods
[01:45:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> whole script: if [[ $(ps -AF | grep [r]ustbot | wc -l) != 1 ]]; then $HOME/bin/rustbot MrPlow 2>&1 &>~/var/log/rustbot.log &; fi
[01:46:08] * TheMightyBuzzard is too lazy to bother with proper pid files and such
[01:46:23] <chromas> no pgrep?
[01:46:39] <chromas> You don't even need a pid file for a systemd unit :D
[01:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, do i look like the president to you?
[01:47:06] <chromas> You can do anything. grep 'em py the pid
[01:47:32] * TheMightyBuzzard has much nicer, and less, hair
[01:50:01] <Sulla> Official happening, we bombed t4
[01:53:28] <chromas> https://twitchy.com
[01:53:29] <upstart> ^ 03BREAKING: Multiple (unconfirmed) reports of airstrikes at T4 airbase in Homs, Syria; UPDATED – twitchy.com
[01:53:34] <exec> └─ 13BREAKING: Multiple (unconfirmed) reports of airstrikes at T4 airbase in Homs, Syria; UPDATED – twitchy.com
[01:53:53] <upstart> ~title off
[01:53:56] <upstart> ~titles off
[01:54:00] <upstart> :'(
[01:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatsa t4?
[01:57:18] <chromas> The net says it's a base
[01:57:26] <chromas> Maybe it's their net connection
[01:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty slow net connection then but we have been blowing lotsa shit up over there so i could see why they're having to make do
[02:01:18] <mrpg> Also T4 is the international terminal in Madrid's airport.
[02:01:24] <mrpg> #weather madrid
[02:01:25] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:01:48] <mrpg> #weather texas
[02:01:48] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:02:07] <mrpg> ~weather madrid
[02:02:08] <exec> 10Madrid, Spain - currently 42°F / 6°C, rain, wind SW at 16 mph, humidity 93% - Monday rain (42°F:46°F / 6°C:8°C), Tuesday rain (36°F:47°F / 2°C:8°C), Wednesday mostly cloudy (41°F:54°F / 5°C:12°C), Thursday scattered showers (42°F:53°F / 6°C:12°C)
[02:02:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> you just made that up. madrid's not a real place
[02:02:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather madrid, spain
[02:02:17] <MrPlow> Today: Rain early...then remaining cloudy with showers in the afternoon. High 46F. Winds SW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Tomorrow: Rain early...then remaining cloudy with thundershowers developing in the afternoon. High 47F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Flooding is possible in flood prone areas.
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[02:03:19] <mrpg> cool
[02:03:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> texas is bigger than spain. might wanna specify where in texas.
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[02:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather dallas, tx
[02:03:31] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Tomorrow: Sunny along with a few clouds. High 71F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
[02:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather san antonio, tx
[02:03:37] <MrPlow> Today: Occasional late night drizzle. Lows overnight in the mid 50s. Tomorrow: Cloudy skies. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 73F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph.
[02:03:42] <mrpg> #weather grandburry, texas
[02:03:42] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:03:46] <mrpg> #weather grandbury, texas
[02:03:46] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:04:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i need to go to texas soon and visit the grandparents while i still have some.
[02:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather grandberry, tx
[02:04:34] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:04:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather grandbury, tx
[02:04:43] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g grandbery texas
[02:04:54] <MrPlow> https://www.granburydentalcenter.com - "in Granbury. Welcome to Granbury Dental Center, where your health and happiness is our top priority. We love caring for our community, and we're proud to have some of the top dentists in the country using the most advanced technology to treat all your dental needs under one roof. We've been providing quality dental ..."
[02:04:54] <upstart> ^ 03Granbury Dental Center | Granbury TX Dentist
[02:05:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, no D
[02:05:06] <mrpg> aaah
[02:05:31] <mrpg> #weather granbury, tx
[02:05:31] <MrPlow> Today: Mostly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 40s. Tomorrow: Mostly cloudy. High 71F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
[02:05:46] <Bytram> !uid
[02:05:46] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6918, owned by deepinsider
[02:06:04] <mrpg> #weather merida
[02:06:04] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:06:24] <mrpg> Sure, there are like 4 in the world. And the princess from the pixar movie.
[02:06:28] * upstart has D
[02:06:43] <mrpg> #weather merida, mexico
[02:06:43] <MrPlow> Unable to find weather for that location
[02:06:52] <mrpg> #weather merida, spain
[02:06:53] <MrPlow> Today: Showers early, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 58F. Winds WSW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Tomorrow: Cloudy with periods of rain. High 51F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a half an inch. Flooding is possible in flood prone areas.
[02:07:16] <mrpg> Chance of rain 100%? That' snot what I learned in probability class.
[02:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Next Einstein Forum Held in Rwanda - http://sylnt.us - knowledge-is-power
[02:08:36] <chromas> Chance goes to 100% when it's already raining :)
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[02:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> also goes to 100% when there's going to be a tropical storm or hurricane over top of you and nothing short of a huge meteor impact would disrupt it
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[02:12:34] <mrpg> Still, would be 0,999999999999999999999999
[02:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but if they're not showing any decimal places it's safe to assume they're rounding. so anything 99.5 or greater would be displayed as 100%.
[02:14:10] <mrpg> Or is the answer for the people who don't remember probability.
[02:15:17] <Bytram> probably
[02:15:21] <Bytram> ;)
[02:15:38] <Bytram> and, with that bon mot, I bid ewe all adieu
[02:15:58] <mrpg> bye!
[02:16:03] <Bytram> if it is any consolation, /me cringed when he typed that
[02:16:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, it's the answer for people who care more about whether it's gonna rain and fuck up their day than they do about precision in the data
[02:16:08] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[02:16:25] <mrpg> Me too, it's late. bye
[02:16:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that sounds, umm, accurate!
[02:16:38] <Bytram> laters, all! Have a great night!
[02:16:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[02:16:48] * exec single-handedly copies a raid 4 volume of meat for Bytram
[02:17:15] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[02:17:21] <Sulla> Looks like the us govt is denying involvement
[02:17:28] <Sulla> Saying its a different actor
[02:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really butthurt some people today and all i did was be reasonable at them.
[02:18:19] <mrpg> they don't want reason, they want to fight someone to ease their pain.
[02:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> they should pick someone worse at fighting then
[02:24:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[02:24:43] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 66
[02:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[02:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[02:24:46] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 594
[02:24:53] * chromas is 'arguing' on youtube that Madonna's Like A Prayer is totally about oral sex
[02:25:18] <chromas> and Express Yourself is about making him reciprocate
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[02:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> after brief consideration while smoking, i have decided my preferred pronouns shall be wetback/faggot/cunt.
[02:32:37] <mrpg> For family, friends, or strangers?
[02:32:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> only anyone who asks.
[02:32:59] <chromas> Yes
[02:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and canadians, since they're now legally obligated to use them.
[02:34:10] <mrpg> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:34:10] <upstart> ^ 03HMRC dev support team cc blurtfest: Over 1,400 email addresses blabbed • The Register
[02:34:12] <exec> └─ 13HMRC dev support team cc blurtfest: Over 1,400 email addresses blabbed • The Register
[02:34:21] <mrpg> in a recent email, a mistake was made and your email address may have been shared with other recipients.
[02:34:24] <mrpg> "I wish to apologise for this error and for any distress this may have caused."
[02:34:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[02:34:47] <mrpg> distress!!!!!! WAR! famine!!! lack of medicines!!!!! someone saw my email!!!!!
[02:36:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> another admin at the isp i used to admin for once put wholeshebang@ in the To: field rather than the Bcc: field to send an email to all subscribers. thereby letting each and every one of them know how to spam all of the rest of them.
[02:36:56] <chromas> Well now I gotta try that at all domains
[02:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> same guy who wrote a "deluser" script that didn't check for the lack of a username argument existing when doing the rm -rf /usr/home/$deluser
[02:37:53] <chromas> linuxjournal beat our troll poll http://www.linuxjournal.com
[02:37:54] <upstart> ^ 03Best Programming Language | Linux Journal
[02:37:56] <exec> └─ 13Best Programming Language | Linux Journal
[02:38:25] <chromas> de-luser
[02:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully i am insanely paranoid when i admin shared systems and keep top running in a terminal window at all times
[02:39:50] <chromas> "Perl is where you code in code (and I prefer to know what my program is doing). Java is poop from a wastebin that didn't live up to its hype, and shouldn't IMHO."
[02:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> we only had two days downtime before we got the CEO of the company than owned our company's personal shat restored
[02:41:13] <chromas> Seems like it'd be fun to work at an isp in the 90s. Most customers didn't know what they were doing, so I imagine you could get away with a lot
[02:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was fucking awesome. every customer got web and ftp space along with a shell account.
[02:44:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a few customer login/pass combos stuck in my head so even after i quit i still got free net access.
[02:44:16] <mrpg> I was "cowering behind childish anti spam measures" and still I received a spam for elections in ITALY. I dont live there, I dont speak italian.
[02:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> block all mail from .it domains?
[02:46:05] <chromas> http://damn.it
[02:46:06] <upstart> ^ 03Damn
[02:46:07] <exec> └─ 13damn.it
[02:46:08] * chromas disappoint
[02:46:17] <mrpg> What's "verify account"?
[02:49:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> it means put in your online banking username/password/bank
[02:50:52] <mrpg> What are you gonna do with 2 dollars?
[02:51:34] <mrpg> I dotn care for anything I'll press it!
[02:52:05] <mrpg> well well well, spank my butt and call me charlie.
[02:52:06] <mrpg> The account for user mrpg has been reset. The password has been changed and an e-mail has been sent with the new password to verify the e-mail account associated with this account.
[03:01:01] <mrpg> No email yet
[03:02:11] <mrpg> snafu. I told bytram to go take care of his life and now I cant login. This site will descend into chaos cause of me if I'm not here to protect the life and rights of decent citizens.
[03:07:37] <fyngyrz> $aa {bsod}
[03:07:38] <fungus> 02,2.00,2 00,14Windows00,2 02,2.
[03:07:38] <fungus> 02,2.00,2 An error has occurred. To continue:
[03:07:39] <fungus> 02,2.00,2 Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart your computer.02,2.
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[03:18:20] <mrpg> I don't know how to interpret that, I'm using linux ubuntu budgie inside windows.
[03:18:39] <mrpg> I eat meat daily and I'm getting thinner. WTF?
[03:18:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.fbnewspost.com
[03:18:42] <upstart> ^ 03Child Sex Robots Now Being Mass Produced – FB NEWS POST
[03:18:43] <exec> └─ 13Child Sex Robots Now Being Mass Produced – FB NEWS POST
[03:18:56] <fyngyrz> Just press the power button then. That'll fix it.
[03:19:22] <mrpg> What if I press the power button in the VM?
[03:19:31] <mrpg> While inside the vm.
[03:19:37] <fyngyrz> you'll need deh goggles
[03:20:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrpg, TR has eaten nothing but meat, cheese, butter, and green veggies for the past week and has lost several pounds.
[03:20:09] <fyngyrz> goggles(vr(vm(press)))
[03:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g keto diet
[03:20:19] <MrPlow> https://www.ruled.me - "A keto diet is well known for being a low carb diet, where the body produces ketones in the liver to be used as energy. It's referred to as many different names – ketogenic diet, low carb diet, low carb high fat (LCHF), etc. When you eat something high in carbs, your body will produce glucose and insulin. Glucose is the easiest ..."
[03:20:19] <upstart> ^ 03What is the Ketogenic Diet? A Comprehensive Beginner's Guide
[03:20:41] <fyngyrz> and your pee will smell very funny when you enter ketosis
[03:21:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR's might. my pee will smell like i ate biscuits and gravy for dinner.
[03:21:24] <fyngyrz> call the Russians, they'll make a tape for you
[03:21:58] * TheMightyBuzzard takes absurd amounts of joy from torturing a good southern boy by eating biscuits and gravy in front of him when he can't
[03:22:06] <fyngyrz> lol
[03:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> put a pot of beans on the other day with a pound of bacon and four diced onions in it. made him smell it cooking for most of two days.
[03:23:08] <fyngyrz> $aa Southern man don't need your biscuits and gravy{nl}--Neil Young (perhaps)
[03:23:17] <fyngyrz> oh yeah, I killed the bot
[03:23:19] * TheMightyBuzzard is kinda a bastard
[03:23:20] <fyngyrz> oh well ;)
[03:24:31] <mrpg> I eat carbs a lot, flour, rice, platanos.
[03:25:17] * fyngyrz eats pizza, spaghetti, other pasta, bread. Makes his own sugars
[03:25:45] <fyngyrz> nite you guys
[03:25:59] <mrpg> bye
[03:28:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> carbs are delicious and will have to be pried from my cold, dead hands.
[03:28:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides, beer has lots of carbs.
[03:29:44] <mrpg> I'm cooking rice right now.
[03:29:58] <mrpg> My pasword has arrived, crisis averted.
[03:36:46] <mrpg> bye good night
[03:36:51] <mrpg> ~gnight all
[03:36:53] * exec carelessly liberates a can of chili cheese dip from all
[03:37:01] <mrpg> hmmm
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[03:42:55] <chromas> biscuits++
[03:42:55] <chromas> gravy++
[03:42:55] <Bender> karma - biscuits: 1
[03:42:55] <Bender> karma - gravy: 3
[03:45:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Censorship Machines Are Coming: It’s Time for the Free Software Community to Use its Political Clout - http://sylnt.us - my-code-is-my-music
[03:45:45] <chromas> https://uploads.disquscdn.com
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[03:53:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft. the free software community are some of the most censorious assholes on the planet.
[06:05:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - London Mayor Cracking Down on the Carrying of Knives - http://sylnt.us - what's-next?
[06:21:31] <chromas> common sense knifectl
[06:22:05] <chromas> "While you were shooting, we were studying the blade"
[06:29:14] <boru> City problems.
[06:29:47] <boru> Knife carrying is a side effect of mass immigration in the big urban centres in the UK.
[06:30:43] <boru> And the police force is a joke. It's not as bad as Sweden, but it's getting there.
[06:53:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[06:54:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> knife carrying is something every male north of six years old does in the south here.
[06:54:55] <boru> Same as, where I'm from. Knives are tools.
[06:55:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it wasn't even considered a weapon when i went to school. a full half the class was almost guaranteed to have a knife in their pocket.
[06:55:24] <boru> Then again, where I'm from isn't inundated with mass immigration.
[06:55:27] <boru> But correlation isn't causation, right?
[06:55:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> of course it is. we have traditions to uphold around here.
[06:56:06] <boru> Nor is it illegal to openly discuss the problem.
[06:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> well they are british. it wouldn't be seemly to be rude just because someone stabbed you.
[07:04:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> right. i'm supposed to be getting up in three hours. that's going to suck.
[07:04:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck, no wonder. this fruity soda i got and drank six of because i remembered liking it as a kid is caffeinated.
[07:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i may have just fucked myself out of a day of fishing
[07:08:11] <chromas> https://www.consumerreports.org
[07:08:12] <upstart> ^ 03'Gag Clauses' and Prescription Drug Prices - Consumer Reports
[07:08:13] <exec> └─ 13'Gag Clauses' and Prescription Drug Prices - Consumer Reports
[07:08:20] <chromas> Finaly a one-in-five stat that's real
[07:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> one in five fingers are this one 🖕
[07:09:08] <chromas> I bet I know what that is, but this computer doesn't have the glyph.
[07:09:12] * chromas shakes head
[07:10:31] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[07:11:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, there's even a fair likelihood that one in five fingers have been up someone's butt at one point or another.
[07:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure what that average would be without all the butt fisting porn though
[07:14:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i gotta get SOME sleep or there's no way i'm going fishing today.
[07:14:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight damnit
[07:14:32] * exec derisively hallucinates a dumpster of roux with damnit
[07:17:29] * chromas bechamels
[08:26:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook-Owned Instagram Removes Opioid-Related Posts - http://sylnt.us - forbidden-hashtags
[10:45:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Satellites, Supercomputers, and Machine Learning Provide Real-Time Crop Type Data - http://sylnt.us - probably-spotting-marijuana-as-well
[12:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia Ends Mainstream Support for Fermi GPUs and 32-Bit Operating Systems - http://sylnt.us - 32-bit-should-be-enough-for-anyone
[13:06:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:06:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4046
[13:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuuuuuck
[13:22:52] <pinchy> only 53 more to go
[13:23:28] <pinchy> "just click on the head"
[13:23:37] <pinchy> basic fps technique
[13:46:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Scientific Paper is Obsolete - http://sylnt.us - that-word-again
[14:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you have a link showing an ipid EF used that has negative karma? i can't find one from his user page and that's got me going "WTF!?".
[14:30:55] <chromas> I got it from his user page I think
[14:30:57] * chromas looks
[14:31:04] <cmn32480> coffee++
[14:31:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4047
[14:34:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[14:35:01] * exec unknowingly culturally appropriates a D cup of unassigned skill points from cmn32480
[14:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[14:35:03] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 595
[14:35:10] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[14:35:12] * exec cautiously hallucinates a fistful of huckleberry pie with TheMightyBuzzard
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[14:40:06] * chromas suspects TheMightyBuzzard has a camera in his room
[14:42:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> several. only one of them's hooked up to anything though.
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[14:47:51] * TheMightyBuzzard is trying to figure out why EF's ipid karma is negative
[14:49:40] <chromas> What's the CK column?
[14:49:51] <chromas> His Louis index?
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[14:51:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> EF's ipid sind sehr (Calvin) Klein.
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[15:16:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Optical-Fiber Lasers Make Laser Weapon Systems Practical - http://sylnt.us - death-from-below
[15:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damnit. it was a bug.
[15:26:46] <chromas> Set the karma to 500 and give 'im a free extra month :)
[15:27:05] * chromas sees it jumped up but by not quite enough
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[15:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not bytraming things up by setting karma above max
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[15:27:56] <chromas> Well it bugged one way. You have to give reparations by swinging it too far the other way
[15:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> not quite enough for AC posting, plenty for logged in posting
[15:28:02] <chromas> ah
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[15:28:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i'm going to tweak the ipid/subnetid karma algorithm some in a few minutes
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[15:38:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, that's done. i also need to fix the bug that caused this nonsense though.
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[15:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> not right this second though. i need more coffee and nicotine.
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[15:59:54] <pinchy> cant get enuf of the 'tine
[16:02:19] <chromas> pou?
[16:02:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://www.mercurynews.com
[16:02:59] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[16:03:00] <exec> └─ 13Uber to buy electric bicycle rental company Jump Bikes
[16:03:05] <pinchy> neekoteen
[16:03:24] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[16:03:29] <pinchy> hah, cant do the car AI so settles for bicycles
[16:03:30] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
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[16:08:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://theconversation.com
[16:08:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[16:09:23] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[16:09:29] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[16:10:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> #submit https://ittfitfeed.com
[16:10:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[16:11:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[16:11:28] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[16:11:44] <chromas> But muh blockchain
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[16:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine is my boon companion
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[16:28:13] <pinchy> bottled water is a bigger market than soft drinks, huh
[16:29:28] <pinchy> i remember friedman mentioned in a speech back in the 70s that gallon of gas was cheaper than a gallon of water
[16:30:09] <pinchy> hard to imagine with all the processing involved with making gas
[16:30:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> Still is, if you're buying your water in refrigerated 16-ounce bottles.
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[16:30:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> If you're getting your water from the tap, then it's the other way around.
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[16:31:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Do you buy your gasoline by the single-trip bottle, or do you get many gallons at once in a single container?
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[16:37:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Myanmar Activists Say Facebook Aids Genocide - http://sylnt.us - people-kill-people
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[16:40:29] * chromas buys gasoline in 12oz cans
[16:41:07] <cmn32480> I could see that for 2 cycle engines...
[16:41:33] <cmn32480> that is how I buy my 2 cycle oil... except the last time.. I bought a quart
[16:42:04] <chromas> x-treme NRG drinkz for your yard appliancez!
[16:42:35] <cmn32480> yup yup! sure makes starting them in the cold easier
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[16:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee makes starting me in the cold easier. not by much, mind you.
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[16:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. i'm officially too tired to fish. stupid soda that had unexpected caffeine in it.
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[17:20:53] <cmn32480> people who smoke around rtheir corporate laptops should be flogged
[17:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you should just give the laptops to them and only replace them once every three to five years.
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[17:22:57] <cmn32480> nah this is one that git turned in from a guy who is no longer with the company
[17:23:10] <cmn32480> he retired... and has taken up cigars in the alst few years
[17:23:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides, what's with complaining about them putting a protective coating of tar and nicotine over obviously sensitive components.
[17:23:46] <cmn32480> because I'm the one who is cleaning it so that it cna get reissued...
[17:24:05] * cmn32480 is thinking about a dryer sheet over the fan intake to maksk it
[17:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> a citrus scent will cut the smell better.
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[17:24:54] <pinchy> https://www.theguardian.com
[17:24:55] <upstart> ^ 03Officer cleared after killing man carrying table leg | UK news | The Guardian
[17:24:57] <exec> └─ 13Officer cleared after killing man carrying table leg | UK news | The Guardian
[17:25:14] * TheMightyBuzzard rofls
[17:25:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ban tables!
[17:26:01] <pinchy> all these cases i wonder if theres another civil suit case
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[17:26:23] <pinchy> like with OJ didnt the family clean him out in court after his acquital?
[17:26:31] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[17:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never paid much attention to the whole OJ thing. it wasn't important.
[17:27:06] <pinchy> the bag being carried by Mr Stanley corresponded "to an uncanny extent" with the shape of a sawn-off shotgun
[17:27:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> DROP TABLE leg;
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[17:29:34] <pinchy> i remember oj got arrested for trying to steal his trophies back or something from a museum
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[17:29:44] <pinchy> so broke had to pawn the shit
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[17:30:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> OJ just got out of spending eight years in jail for tax fraud
[17:30:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> that was speculation that he was going to move to an area relatively local to me
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[17:41:58] <Teckla> He looks like a broken down old man now
[17:46:28] <fyngyrz> It's fascinating how the ex post facto clause is essentially negated by the "oh, but not for civil law" tradition
[17:47:29] <FatPhil> ANyone familiar with O'Hare?
[17:47:39] <fyngyrz> not to mention double jeopardy
[17:47:47] <fyngyrz> yeah, it's a terrible ariport
[17:47:53] <fyngyrz> airport, even
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[17:48:31] <FatPhil> Are there any places where cans/bottles of beer can be bought (closed, for transporting back to .ee)
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[17:48:44] <fyngyrz> no idea on that one, sorry
[17:48:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, not really. only been there once and i was busy drinking while i waited on my plane.
[17:48:56] <FatPhil> g/f's flying back today/tomorrow
[17:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be. it's an international airport so there should be a duty free shop.
[17:49:51] <FatPhil> She went over though OHAre too, so probably has checked part of it out already.
[17:50:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.thescinewsreporter.com
[17:50:41] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:50:42] <exec> └─ 13Breaking: Researchers at CERN break “The Speed of Light”
[17:51:06] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[17:51:07] <FatPhil> She's a pretty good mule. Good at hunting out new shit. Hopefully she can find some good old fashioned malt likka.
[17:51:07] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[17:54:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. time for nap.
[17:55:07] <FatPhil> time for "food" (on an all-liquid diet at the moment, as my local fast food place tried to kill me over the weekend)
[17:55:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> that thescinewsreporter article looks nice but it's ~0.0025% faster than light, so I'm gonna call "likely measurement error" on this one.
[18:00:21] <FatPhil> The OPERA neutrinos were 0.002% FTL, IIRC. Until it was shown that they weren't.
[18:00:47] <FatPhil> But we should post these comments on the story when it appears!
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[18:28:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Modifies Open-Source Code, Blows Hole in Windows Defender - http://sylnt.us - (unsigned⠀int)
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[18:45:03] <FatPhil> dafuq - that CERN story is the OPERA story, which was thrown out as measurement error years ago
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[18:45:43] <FatPhil> April 01, 2018
[18:46:15] <FatPhil> first link in article is https://i.imgur.com
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[18:51:39] <chromas> We can just post it along with the late aristarchus april 1 sub
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[19:18:56] <pinchy> aristarchus is a bottom?
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[19:42:11] <fyngyrz> :test
[19:42:55] <fyngyrz> test
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[19:45:58] <pinchy> failed
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[19:46:41] <cmn32480> woudl somebody get some Lotramin and cure this fungus?
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[19:47:10] <fyngyrz> there is no cure. There is only tolerance.
[19:47:29] <cmn32480> no... not then 2/3 of my screen is the bot dropping in and out of the channel
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[19:49:43] <fyngyrz> oh, I see. I have those turned, wasn't seeing them. I'll limit the bot to the test channel until done developing it
[19:49:49] <fyngyrz> turned off. Apologies
[19:49:56] <fyngyrz> one more dropout
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[19:51:00] <fyngyrz> ok, bot is up again. You should not have seen it?
[19:51:14] <cmn32480> not in here...
[19:51:37] <fyngyrz> ok, good. Only in test channel now. Again, so sorry. Was unaware
[19:54:12] <cmn32480> it's ok
[19:54:14] <cmn32480> shit happens
[19:54:28] <cmn32480> if that si the worst thing you do.. I'll probably be able to forgive it
[19:56:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Leap Motion Releasing Specifications for a $100 Augmented Reality Headset - http://sylnt.us
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[21:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Blood Test Useful To Detect People At Risk Of Developing Alzheimer's Disease - http://sylnt.us - another-step-forward
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[21:59:49] <chromas> Nothing about a cock?
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[22:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8======D
[22:11:11] * AndyTheAbsurd doesn't know WTF he's doing with Perl
[22:11:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> You guys mind some stupid questions?
[22:12:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> (specifically related to JSON::XS's decode_json function and how to use the data it returns)
[22:13:32] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[22:13:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoot
[22:13:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure we use it but i can give a look
[22:13:57] <FatPhil> perldoc open: http://search.cpan.org
[22:13:59] <upstart> ^ 03JSON::XS - search.cpan.org
[22:14:01] <exec> └─ 13JSON::XS - search.cpan.org
[22:15:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ask away but ima grab a smoke before i answer
[22:15:03] <FatPhil> I've written an asynchronous (which is a complete red herring here) json decoder. And I do a bit of perl. So let's cross fingers.
[22:15:50] <FatPhil> Ima grab a big mug of milky instant coffee and a sleeping pill, and see if I can get the snuggles on. But they'll take an hour to kick in.
[22:16:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> okay, I have JSON of this form:
[22:16:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> { "global": { "api_1_key": "12345", "api_2_key": "54321" }, "servers": [ { "server": "test1", "port": 6667 } ] }
[22:17:16] <FatPhil> it should return a reference to a hash with 2 elements.
[22:17:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, got that far.
[22:17:54] <FatPhil> the first being global => {...}, the second being servers => [...]
[22:18:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm putting those elements into @global_settings_obj and @server_settings_obj
[22:18:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> like so: my @global_settings_obj = @{ $settings_data->{global} };
[22:18:37] <FatPhil> nope - it was a hash reference
[22:18:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> so % not @?
[22:18:55] <FatPhil> yup
[22:19:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> (because it's NOT failing there. It's failing on:
[22:19:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> print "global setting api_1_key " . $global_settings_obj['api_1_key'] . "\n";
[22:20:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> and breakding down @server_settings_obj is being done with this:
[22:20:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> foreach my $server_item (@server_settings_obj) {
[22:20:44] <FatPhil> perl does associative arrays using hashes
[22:20:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> and that works fine.
[22:21:22] <FatPhil> do you need to take a copy of the hash, or can you just use it via the reference?
[22:22:46] <FatPhil> my $global_settings_hashref = $settings_data->{global}; print($global_settings_hashref->{api_1_key}, "\n"); is the KISS approach.
[22:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, if you *need* a copy of the hash rather than a reference you can use "my %foo = %$settings;"
[22:24:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you almost certainly don't need a copy though
[22:25:04] <FatPhil> absolutely. But no point in unnecessary object copying.
[22:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> so what's the question again?
[22:25:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> s'okay, FatPhil got me straightened out
[22:25:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger. i got confused on who even needed help.
[22:26:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> all of us...mental help...but we don't suffer from insanity, we ENJOY it!
[22:26:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ed zackery
[22:26:36] <FatPhil> I need help - I'm out of milk, so can't make milky coffee.
[22:26:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Who was it that said "anyone who would go see a psychiatrist outta have their head examined"?
[22:27:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> you. just now. https://logs.sylnt.us
[22:27:29] <upstart> ^ 03#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-09
[22:27:30] <exec> └─ 13#soylent | Logs for 2018-04-09
[22:27:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, milk is bad for you. heavy whipping cream ftw.
[22:29:24] * AndyTheAbsurd goes back to working on version 2 of his bot
[22:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, just a quick tip... perl's memory hungry enough without making unnecessary copies of things. if you can at all get away with it, use references rather than copying data.
[22:29:50] <FatPhil> I like to think we have bloody excellent milk here. I am a bit fussy when it comes to the stuff.
[22:31:18] <FatPhil> TMB: however, as soon as the decoded hashref drops its final reference, it will become reclaimed. Alas, scoping in perl is terrible, so sometimes things stay around longer than you'd hope.
[22:31:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> milk's fine for making gravy. if you're going to put something in coffee though it should be heavy cream.
[22:31:44] <FatPhil> my all the vars.
[22:32:01] <FatPhil> in a heavy proper coffee, I can approve of that. Not shitty instant, though.
[22:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, scoping can get right tricky true but perl's not actually that bad at obeying its scoping rules.
[22:32:32] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: use strict qw(vars refs subs);
[22:33:03] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: it's just that it's rules are baroque (a polite way of saying "fucked up")
[22:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft... use strict; use warnings;
[22:33:50] <FatPhil> yeah, strict and warnings are the first two lines I type when I start a new file.
[22:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> they should really make it "use tellmeifimdoingsomethingstupid;"
[22:34:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's one thing i like about rust. it will bitch its fool head off about anything it can find that might go wrong.
[22:34:56] <FatPhil> tell me if I typoed works for me too.
[22:35:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> use bitchnmoan;
[22:35:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i gotta get dinner going. back later maybe.
[22:40:55] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: you might want to add some croaks or dies if the reference type isn't exactly what you expect it to be.
[22:41:13] <FatPhil> die(
[22:41:41] <FatPhil> die("not a hashref") if(ref($global_settings_hashref) ne 'HASH');
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