#Soylent | Logs for 2019-03-10

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[00:38:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Claims Former Engineer Co-Invented Tech In Qualcomm Patent Dispute - http://sylnt.us - Apple-said-Qualcomm-said
[01:56:06] <AzumaHazuki> ~submit https://hbr.org from the cold-equations dept.
[01:56:11] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[01:56:36] <AzumaHazuki> okay, i'll try your friend
[01:57:34] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://hbr.org from the B*cos(f(u))=y dept.
[01:57:36] <upstart> Submitting "Why Is Customer Service So Bad? Because It’s Profitable."...
[01:57:57] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Why Is Customer Service So Bad? Because It’s Profitable." ( https://soylentnews.org )
[02:24:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice dept
[02:25:20] <AzumaHazuki> you got the pun? :)
[02:26:02] * TheMightyBuzzard is a connoisseur of fine puns
[02:26:44] <AzumaHazuki> paronomasia seems to run in my family but only on the father's side. and usually in the guys. but for some reason I got it instead of my brother
[02:26:44] * Bytram got it, too... took a little while for the last 2 chars, but definitely an instant classic!
[02:26:58] <Bytram> =g paronomasia
[02:26:59] <upstart> https://www.dictionary.com - Paronomasia | Define Paronomasia at Dictionary.com
[02:27:07] <Bytram> =g m-w paronomasia
[02:27:08] <upstart> https://www.merriam-webster.com - Paronomasia | Definition of Paronomasia by Merriam-Webster
[02:27:22] <Bytram> =g Wikipedia paronomasia
[02:27:23] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Pun - Wikipedia
[02:27:32] <Bytram> o!
[02:27:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. meant to get started on the install fixup for rehash but took a four hour nap instead. then went to pump out the french drain trench and with an entire parking lot to choose from, dropped my phone in a bucket of muddy water.
[02:27:57] <AzumaHazuki> but for real, this is just confirming what i think we all suspected for ages. in a way this is a precursor to AI; a directed search for an algorithm that maximizes money
[02:28:15] <AzumaHazuki> just, humans did it instead of bots so it took a few decades
[02:28:48] <Bytram> maximizes money accumulation for the searcher and/or maximizes extraction from the searchees... or both?
[02:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've done better going above and beyond at service personally. ymmv though.
[02:29:09] <AzumaHazuki> so, like...now that we have a quantitative analysis of the fact that big companies do indeed hate us and see us as nothng but revenue units...revolution feckin' when, mate?
[02:29:44] <Bytram> keep your friends close and your enemies closer... infiltrate and take them over?
[02:30:25] <Bytram> oh, can't claim credit for the first part, btw
[02:30:32] <Bytram> #g keep your friends close and your enemies closer
[02:30:32] <MrPlow> https://www.quora.com - "Some trust it was Sun-tzu, a Chinese general and military strategist, however his citation was different. He said, \" Know your enemy and know yourself and you ..."
[02:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, don't need a revolution for that in a capitalist society. the government don't control the companies in them. just do business with someone who does give good service.
[02:30:50] <AzumaHazuki> i've had a growing, looming premonition for quite some time that we're approaching the point where the power of our tech leapfrogs our morals by such a huge amount that we're going to do something fatally stupid with it
[02:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> granted, we're a pretty sorry excuse for a capitalist society lately.
[02:31:22] <AzumaHazuki> we have some really scary force multipliers, and 50+ years of intelligence agencies doing basically Dark Psychohistory
[02:31:26] <Bytram> just because you could, you forgot to ask if you should?
[02:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, you're saying we haven't already done something fatally stupid with it?
[02:32:17] <AzumaHazuki> worse: things were done that people didn't even necessarily know they should stop and ask about. law of unintended consequences. i'm sure tim berners-lee had no idea what a clusterfuck his networking protocols would become
[02:32:28] <Bytram> at some point, someone has a "great" idea and wonders... hmmm... I wonder what would happen if I... and without further thought sets it loose on the world?
[02:33:00] <AzumaHazuki> ...really, if you told me in 1995 what the internet would look like in 2020 i'd be incredulous. like "there are laws against that" incredulous. ditto for trump being president
[02:33:22] * Bytram thinks that is what will bring skynet to fruition... little pockets of capability get knitted together until.. . boom!
[02:33:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i find it greatly amusing that people, who aren't that great at thinking themselves, have decided to teach high-speed idiots to think for them.
[02:33:39] <Bytram> *chuckless*
[02:33:55] <Bytram> it MUST be right, the computer told me!
[02:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> good point. echo time for a whiskey
[02:35:15] <AzumaHazuki> we're too late. we've landed in a dead-end timeline
[02:35:35] <Bytram> sorcerer's apprentice... with a computer!
[02:35:43] <AzumaHazuki> i've been sensing the danger for almost 20 years now, but we've gone past several points of no return. it's...not good for my sanity to understand and sense these things
[02:35:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent. i'll skip working on rehash then and go fishing tomorrow.
[02:35:57] <Bytram> lol
[02:36:09] <AzumaHazuki> it's like a nightmare where the monster is coming for you and your feet won't move. only it's real. and i can't wake up. none of us can.
[02:36:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here are the Data Brokers Quietly Buying and Selling Your Personal Information - http://sylnt.us - we-know-you-better-than-you-do
[02:36:16] <Bytram> btw, psa: edt starts tonight
[02:36:28] <Bytram> s/edt/DST/
[02:36:30] <exec> <Bytram> btw, psa: DST starts tonight
[02:36:36] <AzumaHazuki> that's what he sed
[02:36:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki++
[02:36:46] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 4
[02:36:47] <Bytram> well, in those places in the US which observe it
[02:36:52] <Bytram> I agree
[02:36:59] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++
[02:36:59] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 5
[02:37:07] <Bytram> puns++
[02:37:07] <Bender> karma - puns: 6
[02:37:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> spring forward you must or late for church you will be
[02:37:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> </yoda>
[02:37:37] <AzumaHazuki> all we can do is laugh i suppose. if we're gonna die we may as well die laughing. i am beginning to understand "optimistic nihilism"
[02:37:46] <Bytram> lol
[02:37:49] <Bytram> ;)
[02:38:25] <AzumaHazuki> maybe we're the last few generations on this madhouse mudball. i really do not want to reincarnate again. i've had enough of this.
[02:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you'd do anything different knowing you were doomed, you're living a non-doomed life wrong anyway.
[02:38:51] <Bytram> all lives have their struggles. I may not be able to solve the world's problems, but I do what I can to help make it a better place for those I meet each day.
[02:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i really should learn to play the fiddle or i'm going to have to rely on listening to charlie daniels while rome burns
[02:40:27] <Bytram> #yt devil went down to georgia
[02:40:27] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[02:41:21] <Bytram> #g my get up and go got up and went
[02:41:22] <MrPlow> http://holyjoe.org - "My Get-Up-And-Go Has Got Up and Went. Anonymous… (see note below). Old age is golden, or so I've heard said, But sometimes I wonder, as I crawl into bed,"
[02:41:45] <Bytram> #g lyrics my get up and go got up and went
[02:41:45] <MrPlow> http://holyjoe.org - "Poem: My Get-Up-And-Go Has Got Up and Went; author unknown. ... Note from Joe: Although Pete Seeger sang these lyrics in concert, he did not write them."
[02:41:56] <Bytram> ahh
[02:42:44] <AzumaHazuki> you know, nothing is going to make me a Christian again, but i can sympathize with people who say Revelation is being "doubly fulfilled" in the modern day
[02:43:14] <Bytram> never really grokked that book
[02:43:17] <AzumaHazuki> history being what it is (the integral of all human interactions with reality over the time domain), and humans being what we are, it's no surprise there are cycles
[02:43:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm more partial to https://www.youtube.com but nowadays i use clippers with no guide as a method of not bothering with my hair rather than just not cutting it. no styling worries.
[02:43:44] <upstart> ^ 03CDB - Long Haired Country Boy
[02:43:44] <AzumaHazuki> oh, i did. it was a coded anti-Roman polemic, but the things described on the human end of it are common to all decaying empires
[02:44:31] <AzumaHazuki> "an ephah of wheat for a coin, and three ephahs of barley for a coin, and see that thou hurt not the oil and the wine." Runaway inflation of food prices due to Roman greed
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[02:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> greed's not what kills empires, success is. when you no longer have to put serious, daily effort into survival and comfort you lose sight of what truly matters.
[02:46:42] <Bytram> death by a life of leisure?
[02:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ed zackery
[02:47:19] <AzumaHazuki> stupid kills, you mean. i know there's this libertarian fascination with the Heinlein model (starship troopers etc) but the aetiology of the stupid ultimately doesn't matter
[02:47:46] <AzumaHazuki> it just so happens that "fat, drunk, and dumb" is one path to killing stupidity
[02:48:02] <Bytram> well, if my physical needs were well met (food, clothing, shelter) and I found a good challenge to work on, curiosity is a strong motivator for me.
[02:48:15] <AzumaHazuki> people like us seem to be the exception...
[02:48:36] <Bytram> then we should... rule?!! ;)
[02:49:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually had nothing to do with libertarianism. i mean that a society that does not have to struggle has the luxury of entertaining absurd and self-destructive ideas.
[02:49:20] <Bytram> get a special deal on tulip bulbs?
[02:50:15] <Bytram> break time
[02:50:33] <AzumaHazuki> and there's the old "peace-senility" canard again. we don't need war or suffering; the "struggle" can be purely eustress, like a culture of intellectual curiosity
[02:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's not a worry if you have to work hard to make ends meet. not many are willing to go hungry for some wing-nut notion that it's blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain won't work.
[02:52:06] <AzumaHazuki> the problems are the ones that aren't blindingly obvious. these brains were evolved to pick out ripe fruit; high level stuff like civilization is more effort than most want to put in
[02:52:17] <AzumaHazuki> i do wonder if there's going to be some sort of Eloi/Morlock split
[02:52:32] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[02:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's arguable there already is on an international scope
[02:53:18] <AzumaHazuki> ohhhh boy, here comes the scientific not-racism-yew-gaize
[02:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[02:53:40] <AzumaHazuki> i'll get the spacesuits ready for fighting off the giant bugs
[02:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i just meant we're pretty much already separated into distinct fiscal species.
[02:54:25] * AzumaHazuki thanks her lucky stars ol' High'n'Lyin' wasn't making policy...
[02:55:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd have enjoyed it. you just don't trust enough in human nature on the micro scale to believe it.
[02:55:56] <AzumaHazuki> i have seen enough of human nature on all scales not to trust it. we're jerry-rigged apes in trousers
[02:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> OZ has already proven it can work. with criminals no less.
[02:56:34] <AzumaHazuki> this sort of thinking has a problem: it demands a perpetual external enemy
[02:56:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> for a fucked up, british definition of criminals anyway
[02:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> does not
[02:57:03] <AzumaHazuki> yes, it does, even if that "enemy" is just "everything's poisonous, damn it!"
[02:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! funny but untrue. it does require that you not live in luxury though.
[02:57:42] <AzumaHazuki> there are sick minds who will manufacture causi belli for the sole purpose of "keeping the people sharp"
[02:57:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> starvation and eminent peril aren't necessary but some amount of pressure is.
[02:58:35] <AzumaHazuki> we can generate that pressure through intellectual curiosity and philosophy. this is why critical thought and a proper sense of one's place in the cosmos are so important
[02:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> can we? i've never seen it happen.
[02:58:57] <AzumaHazuki> people who live examined lives do
[02:59:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many of them do you know?
[02:59:22] <AzumaHazuki> several people here at least seem to try. my girlfriend does. my mother. I sure as hell do.
[02:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> an idea that requires better people than we have to work with may be nice to think about but it's still a bad idea.
[02:59:57] <AzumaHazuki> arguably, Buddhism attempts to cut the bonds of what we refer to as "the rat race"
[03:00:11] <AzumaHazuki> some other religions can do it too
[03:00:27] <AzumaHazuki> even Christianity has Saul's idea of "being in the world but not of it"
[03:00:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, so does living in the south. it's too fucking hot to get very worked up about anything.
[03:00:50] <AzumaHazuki> ...whiiiiiiich explains all the lynching Obama in effigy i suppose
[03:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> musta been in spring. summer it's too bloody hot to even mow until an hour before last light.
[03:01:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: fwiw, I do try, too.
[03:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not the heat that gets you, it's the overused cliches
[03:03:30] <AzumaHazuki> ...you know, maybe it's this obsessive examination that's responsible for me feeling like i live in a post-zombie-apocalypse world
[03:03:54] <AzumaHazuki> i saw somewhere, i don't know where, the phrase "lost child in time." that describes the feeling very well
[03:04:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though, you should spend some time here one of these days. you got some misconceptions. like how my town's around half black and went over 80% trump.
[03:04:14] <Bytram> an unexamined life may not be worth living, but if all I do is examine my life, how much living do I really get to do.
[03:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, it most definitely is. excessive naval gazing does not lead to mental stability.
[03:04:48] <AzumaHazuki> oh that doesn't surprise me, really. it all comes down to economics in the end. race, gender, sex, religion, all just proxies for resources
[03:05:29] <AzumaHazuki> well, yeah, runaway was a naval man all his life and look what a mess he is LOL
[03:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[03:06:00] * Bytram is too tired to come up with a good pun using an orange
[03:06:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, and most folks down here is poor. kind of nukes the fun of racism when you might need a hand from your neighbor of color tomorrow.
[03:06:52] <AzumaHazuki> this is why i've been trying to get through to poor white people that they have more in common with poor black people than rich white people
[03:06:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus old black men know more about fishing than anyone on the planet as near as i can tell, so i couldn't be racist if i wanted to.
[03:07:18] <AzumaHazuki> so far it's not working very well. someone, or likely many many many someones, are playing 4D divide-and-conquer chess with the US population
[03:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> they actually already know that. they just entertain the idea that it'd be nice to not have the govt holding them down if they manage to claw their way up the ladder a bit.
[03:08:21] <AzumaHazuki> i have come to the conclusion than the basilisk is real, but rather than a monster, it's a memeplex. a basilisk is any pernicious memeplex that does lasting damage to the mind's ability to think critically, and specifically to disinfect itself
[03:08:42] <AzumaHazuki> Calvinism is a good example. Libertarianism too. Solipsism, if taken seriously.
[03:08:59] <AzumaHazuki> basically a kind of intellectual forkbomb/stack smash attack
[03:09:20] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:09:56] <AzumaHazuki> these things have been accidentally weaponized for milennia, but i am beginning to wonder if there are people doing it on purpose now. "dark psychohistory" like i said...
[03:10:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're welcome to try for something else but there are a lot of people in the US that will spill blood before they acknowledge the government as their master
[03:11:05] <AzumaHazuki> ugh, and one of them has got you, too...
[03:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's your primary sticking point right there. we were born of people pissed off about that and we aren't likely to ever bend a knee.
[03:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm free no matter what the government does. if i agree with a law, i'll follow it. if i don't, i'll break it.
[03:12:30] <AzumaHazuki> government is wherever power is. it doesn't have to be actual self-described government. whoever can force you to act is government
[03:12:45] <AzumaHazuki> this is why i keep saying the distinction between big business and government is at best artificial
[03:13:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. at best we have a tiered government by your way of thinking
[03:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> corporations may think they have power but all they have is money.
[03:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> in regards to policy anyway
[03:13:56] <AzumaHazuki> #g "give me control of a nation's money supple and i care not who makes its laws"
[03:13:56] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[03:14:06] <AzumaHazuki> #g give me control of a nation's money supply and i care not who makes its laws
[03:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> money can often buy power but that doesn't mean it is power
[03:14:07] <MrPlow> https://history.stackexchange.com - "... and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws! ... financiers were restricting trade by domination of the money supply)."
[03:14:22] <AzumaHazuki> what is power, then?
[03:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> the ability to force someone else to your will, in this context.
[03:14:48] <AzumaHazuki> money is power, then. at some remove.
[03:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not quite. it's very much possible for a person with the actual power to tell a person with money to fuck right off.
[03:15:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it happens all the time, though the right people aren't being told
[03:16:30] <AzumaHazuki> there is simply another sort of power then. violence, for example
[03:16:34] <AzumaHazuki> power is power, in whatever form
[03:17:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> right. money is commerce not power. it can rent power though, so there's usually not much of a reason to get nit-picky
[03:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, it's past my bedtime. good conversation. see ya later.
[03:19:30] <AzumaHazuki> we're screwed, aren't we...?
[04:07:17] <pinchy> hello wall of text
[04:07:29] <pinchy> the blah blah is strong tonight
[04:10:38] <AzumaHazuki> two cans of monster rehab and a cup of coffee will do that to you
[04:56:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Democrats To Push To Reinstate Repealed 'Net Neutrality' Rules - http://sylnt.us - no-more-fast-lanes
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[06:17:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Forecasting Mosquitoes' Global Spread - http://sylnt.us - news-that-bugs-you
[08:45:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Google Chrome Zero-Day Vulnerability Found Actively Exploited in the Wild - http://sylnt.us - tarnished-chrome
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[09:10:50] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[09:10:51] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[09:11:16] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[09:16:44] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.baltimoresun.com
[09:16:45] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[09:17:11] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:06:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Graphene-Based Device Is First Step Toward Ultrasensitive Biosensors - http://sylnt.us - enlightening
[11:15:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:15:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4649
[11:50:18] <chromas> Has anyone created an xml-based programming language yet?
[11:50:19] <chromas> <program><foreach id="z" min="0" max="20" step="2'><print><var::"z"/></print></foreach></program>
[11:54:37] <chromas> I forgot the stdio import: <link rel="import" type="xml/application" href="org.soylentnews.xmlang/std/io">
[11:59:19] <chromas> lel http://www.o-xml.org/spec/langspec.html#procedures
[11:59:21] <upstart> ^ 03The o:XML Programming Language ( http://www.o-xml.org )
[12:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's so sick and wrong. i lurve it.
[12:39:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> so much fun figuring out all the changes we didn't keep up with for installing rehash
[13:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> blerg. i forgot how long this takes. ima go get me a shiny new fishin license and see if the crappie are out yet at the closest lake.
[13:06:02] <FatPhil> n.w. Leaving Neverland - ewww
[13:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is Gene Editing Ethical? It Depends - http://sylnt.us - maybe?
[13:36:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: there's also XSLT (Extensible Stylesheet Language Transformations), which isn't really a programming language but uses some of the same concepts and is actually fairly widely used.
[15:20:33] <Runaway1956> #submit https://newsok.com
[15:20:34] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[15:20:59] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[15:21:15] <Runaway1956> Sick and wrong? Oh, yeah, #gmorning TheMightyBuzzard
[15:56:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tufts University Expelled a Student for Grade Hacking. She Claims Innocence - http://sylnt.us - pencil
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[20:48:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is This the End of Recycling? - http://sylnt.us - Betteridge-Says:-Reduce,-Reuse,-and-THEN-Recycle
[20:49:37] <chromas> Nobody reuses anymore. We cann it upcycling now.
[21:00:33] <RandomFactor_> I reuse my coffee mug.
[21:07:15] <RandomFactor_> hmmm, Russia following in China's footsteps https://newsok.com
[21:07:17] <upstart> ^ 03Bill to route internet through Russian servers spurs protest
[21:08:26] <RandomFactor_> Did that just give to a bot to submit? Nifty.
[21:08:44] <chromas> No, it just shows the title
[21:08:55] <RandomFactor_> well that's less nifty
[21:09:11] <chromas> To submit, use ~submit <link> (or =submit or #submit. One for each bot)
[21:09:30] <RandomFactor_> ok, more nifty again
[21:16:03] <chromas> =submit https://www.thescinewsreporter.com
[21:16:04] <upstart> Submitting "Scientists Watched a New Bird Species Evolve on Galapagos in Just 2 Generations"...
[21:16:26] <upstart> Sub-ccess! "Scientists Watched a New Bird Species Evolve on Galapagos in Just 2 Generations" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[21:18:31] <chromas> oh, of course that didn't work. Somebody was looking
[21:19:39] <chromas> Turns out their html is retarded
[21:24:15] <fyngyrz> Still, niftyness all around
[21:25:21] <RandomFactor_> I'm making my submission the old fashioned way
[21:26:24] <RandomFactor_> Otherwise how can i inject much needed snarkiness?
[21:26:42] <chromas> Actually, the bots allow for that :)
[21:26:57] <chromas> But you can't set the dept by bot
[21:26:57] <RandomFactor_> I'm starting to get more interested in these bots
[21:28:24] <RandomFactor_> speaking of dept, i need a good one related to the great firewall of russia
[21:31:26] <RandomFactor_> becoming mao, Russia putin up a firewall, balkanizing the balkans, nothing quite works
[21:36:03] <RandomFactor_> settled on Putin's predator proceeds apace
[21:37:15] <chromas> Russia: I will peep at everyone's internet. NSA: Stop copying me!
[21:46:04] <RandomFactor_> haha, that woulda been better
[22:07:49] <RandomFactor_> https://mashable.com
[22:07:50] <upstart> ^ 03Will cockroaches really inherit the Earth?
[22:10:26] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[22:10:26] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[22:12:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, bored. reencoding three seasons of a tv show to my preferred format, building the rehash environment in a shiny new dev vm, and not even getting to worry over my cpu temp since it's not going over 45C fully pegged
[22:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns out computers run cooler when you shovel the dust out once every year or two
[22:16:56] <RandomFactor_> Blast 'em with canned air. I really ought to learn to put on a mask first.
[22:26:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> canned air? there's gerzillions of tons of air around free for the taking. who would pay for a can of it?
[22:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i guess the people who buy cans to put things besides air do
[22:28:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> and canned beans end up as air in large part a bit down the road
[22:28:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[22:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[22:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[22:28:30] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 696
[22:40:02] <RandomFactor_> uh oh https://pjmedia.com
[22:40:03] <upstart> ^ 03Internet Collapses in Venezuela with 80% Offline; Twitter, YouTube, SoundCloud Blocked
[22:41:05] <RandomFactor_> The Chinese buy the heck out of it - https://www.cnn.com
[22:41:09] <upstart> ^ 03Canadian start-up sells bottled air to China - CNN
[22:43:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> seems like it would be much more cost effective to take up welding. you'd have all you need already on hand and could make money from it too.
[22:44:33] <RandomFactor_> /em ponders a welding torch inside his computer
[22:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> /me works fine for that
[22:49:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't open the acetylene knob and it should work fine. probably best to be powered off though.
[22:53:05] <RandomFactor_> I'm a bit rusty at IRC :-p
[22:57:58] -!- Web_weasel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[23:00:36] <RandomFactor_> This looks fun https://www.ctvnews.ca
[23:00:37] <upstart> ^ 03Ontario professor studies the science behind spark in microwaved grapes
[23:06:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Professor Eugene Spafford Comments on the RSA 2019 Conference - http://sylnt.us - get-off-my-lawn
[23:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes it does
[23:15:18] <RandomFactor_> 1) Grapes are yummy 2) they are quite sparky in a microwave
[23:16:15] <RandomFactor_> Also, my daughter apparently at some point was really bored and spent an evening trying just about everything in the microwave. Fun stories you hear...
[23:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't have enough spare dollars lying around to blow up lots of microwaves. that would cut into my fishing gear fund.
[23:25:25] <RandomFactor_> I've only had to replace my microwave once since they were big enough to reach it. Think i'll ask exactly when this was.
[23:30:30] <RandomFactor_> Dept: Grape Balls of Fire
[23:31:35] * TheMightyBuzzard is having loads of fun patching bugs in mod_perl2 so it will work with a recent version of perl
[23:32:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're simple bugs and they're already patched in svn but there hasn't been a mod_perl2 release in like two years.
[23:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, two n a half
[23:34:12] <chromas> That extra half is important at that age
[23:34:53] * chromas catapults peas with a spoon from his high chair
[23:35:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. and did you know them diaper ratings are no lie. if they say 10-12lbs, they absolutely will not hold more than 12lbs of baby shit.
[23:36:14] <chromas> Is there any type of duplicate sub detection in rehash?
[23:36:16] * chromas looks for it
[23:37:06] * chromas scrolls the sauce
[23:40:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> grep for /^sub crackWhipAtEditor/
[23:59:59] <chromas> Sometimes the bot gets a yuge subid instead of an error