#Soylent | Logs for 2019-10-02

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[00:00:14] <Bytram> Still, even with the towing, less money than a couple car payments!!
[00:00:48] <Bytram> And it's paid for, is old so the insurance and registration are much less expensive.
[00:01:43] <Bytram> And now it's time to check the story queue.
[00:02:01] <Bytram> Annnd, it has run dry.
[00:02:40] <Bytram> takyon++ Thanks for having a story submission I can just skim, approve, and drop into the story queue!!!!
[00:02:40] <Bender> karma - takyon: 43
[00:04:40] <Bytram> ~time x
[00:04:42] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Wednesday, 2 October 2019, 12:04 am
[00:07:13] <Bytram> #g sic editing
[00:07:14] <MrPlow> https://data.grammarbook.com - "Sic is usually italicized and always surrounded by brackets to indicate that it ...... The Chicago Manual of Style, recommend 'quiet copy-editing' (unless where ..."
[00:09:23] <Bytram> #g sic wikipedia
[00:09:24] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The Latin adverb sic inserted after a quoted word or passage indicates that the quoted matter has been transcribed or translated exactly as found in the source ..."
[00:26:08] <Bytram> =g Developmental Psychology teenager mother tone of voice
[00:26:09] <upstart> https://www.sciencedaily.com - Teenagers less likely to respond to mothers with controlling tone of ...
[00:26:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Slashes Price of New 18-Core CPUs in Half - https://sylnt.us - competition++
[00:28:05] <Runaway1956> =submit https://elifesciences.org
[00:28:07] <upstart> Submitting "The tardigrade damage suppressor protein binds to nucleosomes and protects DNA from hydroxyl radicals"...
[00:28:29] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "The Tardigrade Damage Suppressor Protein Binds to Nucleosomes and Protects DNA From Hydroxyl Radical" (25 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:32:26] <Runaway1956> =submit https://ktla.com
[00:32:27] <upstart> Submitting "Ex-Dallas Officer Amber Guyger Convicted of Murder in Fatal Shooting of Botham Jean in His Apartment"...
[00:32:49] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Ex-Dallas Officer Amber Guyger Convicted of Murder in Fatal Shooting of Botham Jean in His Apartment" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:48:16] <Bytram> Runaway1956: Hi!
[01:28:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, that was a seriously retarded movie
[01:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, it means something approaching "like this" or if you're feeling archaic, "thus"
[01:30:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: what does?
[01:30:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> sic
[01:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> see the topic in #dev, thus always to bugs
[01:31:30] <Bytram> My understanding is that it indicates that what you see, is exactly as it was received.
[01:31:44] <Bytram> which is what you said. =)
[01:32:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we separate a little finer in english but the core concepts are the same
[01:33:29] <Bytram> or, as I have so often heard it put in the world of computers: GIGO
[01:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we just use different words for the same concept depending on context.
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[01:55:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Teenagers Less Likely to Respond to Mothers with Controlling Tone Of Voice - https://sylnt.us - Who-does?
[02:01:24] <chromas> Poor Bytram. merica needs to get its act together and implement common sense autocare reform
[02:01:38] <Bytram> lol
[02:01:45] <chromas> And FatPhil would be excellent at Cinemasins *ding*
[03:29:01] <AzumaHazuki> man, Giuliani is the gift that keeps on giving
[03:29:24] <AzumaHazuki> i half expect him to pop up with a Sanders shirt and go "SURPRISE, MUTHAFUCKAHS!" when this is all over. Except I know he's serious and probably demented
[03:36:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Typhoons and Other Disasters Force Japan to Rethink its City vs Rural Living Plans for the Future - https://sylnt.us - finding-the-Goldilocks-levels-of-population-density-and-connectivity
[05:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TSMC Countersues GlobalFoundries: Accuses US Fab of Infringing Patents Across Numerous Process Nodes - https://sylnt.us - tit-for-tat
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[06:36:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft To Offer Windows 7 Extended Security Updates to SMBs - https://sylnt.us - vista-was-the-last-good-windows
[06:56:50] <FatPhil> chromas: I wonder if cinema sins has done ad astra, although it deserves a more mr plinkett trashing, I'll check...
[06:59:18] <FatPhil> oh gawd, there's this: https://www.youtube.com
[06:59:19] <upstart> ^ 03Brad Pitt Says Ad Astra Is About Toxic Masculinity
[07:09:19] <SemperOSS> I've seen Ad Astra and did not like it. It had plenty of factual problems with the science, the worst being weightlessness despite engines running full pelt. The story was really not worth it either and did not need any sci-fi element to be told ... in ten minutes.
[07:12:08] <FatPhil> you should have had a rant here about it, and hopefully saved me my sheckels!
[07:13:26] <SemperOSS> LOL
[07:16:40] <SemperOSS> Well let's see if I like Joker better. Watching it Friday with my son (as I did Ad Astra). Unfortunately, the sprog is not very critical and easily satisfied with most movies — especially if they belong to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
[07:18:15] <SemperOSS> Hopefully university can infuse him with some critical thinking.
[07:20:47] <chromas> huahahahaha
[07:22:16] <SemperOSS> Do I sense a slight doubt about the possible role of universities in adjusting young people's mindset in a positive manner?
[07:25:31] <SemperOSS> I mean, I learnt about toga parties when at uni, reenacting old Roman traditions. What better way to learn about history?
[07:34:17] <FatPhil> I like beer
[07:55:57] <FatPhil> apparently it was such a bad movie it motivated one reviewer/debunker to come out of retirement! https://www.youtube.com
[07:55:59] <upstart> ^ 03Science vs Cinema
[07:56:37] <FatPhil> although after half-trashing it, he says he really liked some of the more stupid bits, and wanted it more stupid. Which may have worked, to be honest.
[08:05:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No Need to Cut Down Red and Processed Meat, Study Says - https://sylnt.us - medium-rare-please
[08:36:08] <chromas> meatium rare
[09:37:48] <FatPhil> n.e. black angus burger
[09:38:08] <FatPhil> taking my dietary advice from SN
[09:43:59] <chromas> is black angus really better?
[09:44:31] <chromas> seems gimmicky
[09:45:13] <chromas> also, my ancient ancestors were Angus, so you're appropriating my culture
[09:47:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ransomware Attacks Leave U.S. Hospitals Turning Away Patients - https://sylnt.us - where-did-you-put-the-key?
[10:11:52] <FatPhil> who cares if the branding is gimicky - the burger was fantastic, and hyoooooooge.
[10:13:48] <chromas> nice
[10:13:53] <chromas> burgers++
[10:13:53] <Bender> karma - burgers: 4
[10:13:59] <chromas> berders++
[10:13:59] <Bender> karma - berders: 1
[10:30:03] <FatPhil> burgers++ subscribe me to the fan club!
[10:30:03] <Bender> karma - burgers: 5
[10:32:21] <chromas> Are there any window managers with docking?
[10:53:13] <FatPhil> what's docking?
[11:16:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tokyo 2020 Olympics Using Facial Recognition System From NEC, Intel - https://sylnt.us - never-forgets-a-face
[12:46:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Top Web Browsers 2019: Microsoft's Browser Share Falls to Record Low - https://sylnt.us - market-share
[14:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, cows is cows. it's what and how much they eat that matters.
[14:27:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More and More Countries are Mounting Disinformation Campaigns Online - https://sylnt.us - believe-it-or-not
[15:23:47] <Runaway1956> meat eaters unite - - - https://squeet.me
[15:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> aren't those called raisins?
[15:33:04] <Runaway1956> Of course not. Raisins aren't as extreme as our Extreme Grape Jerky.
[15:34:55] <Runaway1956> I can't figure those crazy Euros out sometimes . . .
[15:35:36] <Runaway1956> They write all over their forums in gibberish. THEY call it "German" and "French" and "Greek", but it's gibberish, I tell you.
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[15:57:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Demonstrates That What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger - https://sylnt.us - try-flying-off-a-cliff
[17:16:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Could the Female Orgasm be a Happy Remnant of Evolution? - https://sylnt.us - I-already-regret-posting-this
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[18:46:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Communication With Locked-in Patients in Question After Misconduct Finding - https://sylnt.us - science,-but-not-as-it-should-be-done
[18:50:57] <chromas> Is this about the orgasmic rabbits?
[19:15:59] <FatPhil> your task is to splash as much blackcurrent juice on the blanket as possible!
[19:17:31] <chromas> FatPhil: re docking, I was thinking of how windows can be docked to each other in gimp or other programs
[19:17:40] <chromas> so they're stuck together or tabbed (or both)
[19:24:13] <FatPhil> ooh, interesting, I've not encountered.
[19:24:48] <chromas> I was hoping something like that existed but maybe not
[19:25:11] <chromas> i know fluxbox has tabbing. KDE used to but it was incredibly buggy
[19:27:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> sounds like what chromas wants is sort of a tiling window manager
[19:27:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> but "docking" typically means that a sub-window exists inside the program's main window, whereas tiling would be snapped to the outside of a window.
[19:28:18] <chromas> Maybe I just need to learn all the shortcuts
[19:28:35] <chromas> I played with awesome and some others and didn't like the defaults
[19:29:25] * chromas should probably put some more time in
[19:32:19] <chromas> Maybe there's a tabbing tiler
[19:33:02] <chromas> I just don't wanna waste space with, say, Pidgin's contact list, so it'd be nice to group it with other narrow windows. or something
[19:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i stuck online pidgin contacts on the desktop via conky script and minimized the window to the tray
[19:46:04] <chromas> so then you have to dig out the desktop
[19:46:10] <chromas> but that's pretty neat
[19:46:23] <chromas> conky++
[19:46:23] <Bender> karma - conky: 9
[19:46:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> multi-monitor and i have hotkeys to use wmctrl for window sizing/placement so that bit never gets covered
[19:47:18] <chromas> I wish there was an alternative to pidgin but there are zero
[19:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's too good at its job
[19:47:41] <chromas> kde has telepathy integration but telepathy is trash
[19:47:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's okay, so is kde
[19:48:02] <chromas> you take that back
[19:48:08] * chromas literally shakes
[19:48:10] * TheMightyBuzzard trolls
[19:48:46] <chromas> I've been trying other stuff on my laptop but kde's the only one that lets me tap-to-click on the touchpad
[19:49:14] <chromas> probably a config file somewhere to do that x-wide though
[19:49:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would your desktop have a touchpad?
[19:49:26] <chromas> Why wouldn't it?
[19:49:53] <chromas> actually my drawing tablet is also a touchpad but it's pretty terrible
[19:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.deltamodel.com
[19:50:12] <upstart> ^ 03Deltamodel | Linux: Activating the Touchpad for Mouse Clicks (Tap to Click) | Deltamodel
[19:50:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Option "tapping" "on" in xorg.conf
[19:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> arcane magic, i tells ya
[19:51:57] <chromas> Yeah. I don't have an xorg.conf
[19:53:28] <chromas> I think sections can go into file in xorg.conf.d or something right?
[19:54:31] * TheMightyBuzzard blinks
[19:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> make one
[19:55:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> just put the bits you need in it and ignore the rest if x is already handling them fine
[19:55:39] <chromas> it's been so long, I forgot how it works
[19:55:56] * chromas makes tmb do all the thinkin' so he can be more lazy
[19:57:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> make an xorg.conf, put the quoted bit from that link in it, restart your graphical login manager if you use one or just x if you don't.
[19:59:39] <chromas> networkmanager--
[19:59:39] <Bender> karma - networkmanager: -1
[19:59:50] <chromas> Logging out shuts down the network connection
[20:03:39] <chromas> Sweet. Now I can use gnome3 :D
[20:04:53] <chromas> oh I remember now. Some DEs like lxqt gave me the option to tap, but it was disabled
[20:06:38] <chromas> tmb++
[20:06:38] <Bender> karma - tmb: 14
[20:07:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. i use networkmanager and it don't do that to me. not that i log out very often.
[20:07:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[20:07:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[20:07:58] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 736
[20:15:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Simple Changes in Intensity of Weather Events 'Could be Lethal' - https://sylnt.us
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[20:53:38] <FatPhil> woo fuckin' woo! fixed a bug that's been in my code for 6 fricken months (ever since I wrote it!)
[20:53:56] <FatPhil> just had a flash of inspiration today, and everything just fell into place.
[20:54:32] <FatPhil> handy hint: a) call the right function; and b) check the return value sensibly.
[21:47:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Demonstrates that What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger - https://sylnt.us - try-flying-off-a-cliff || Scientists Baffled After Spotting Solar System With Great Gas Giant That Shouldn't Exist - https://sylnt.us - where-did-you-come-from?
[21:55:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Communication with Locked-In Patients in Question after Misconduct Finding - https://sylnt.us - science,-but-not-as-it-should-be-done
[23:06:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Demonstrates Dual-Screen Device Running Android Apps, Announces Windows 10X - https://sylnt.us - put-your...put-your-linux-in-it