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[00:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt drowning pool bodies
[00:15:15] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Drowning Pool - Bodies
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[01:40:12] <FatPhil> Every 24 hours, more than a third of all Americans eat fast food.
[01:56:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - We've Got a Hotspot of Satellite-Wrecking 'Killer Electrons' in the Outer Van Allen Belt... - https://sylnt.us - make-him-wear-suspenders-then
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[04:17:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Palantir Wins New Pentagon Deal With $111 Million From the Army - https://sylnt.us - Pro-Squid-Mo?
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[05:44:29] * TheMightyBuzzard bangs his head against the wall
[05:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt no sleep till brooklyn
[05:44:53] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Beastie Boys - No Sleep Till Brooklyn (Official Video)
[05:49:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck it, ima watch office space. maybe i'll be tired after.
[06:36:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Internet Provider Likely Juiced Its Official Speed Scores - https://sylnt.us - say-it-isn't-so
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[08:13:03] <chromas> https://metro.co.uk
[08:13:03] <systemd> ^ 03How to cope if your mental health is suffering because of the election result
[08:55:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The US, Like China, Has About One Surveillance Camera for Every Four People, Says Report - https://sylnt.us - we-can-see-you
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[11:10:40] <chromas> https://www.digitalinformationworld.com
[11:10:41] <systemd> ^ 031 in 3 Americans Can’t Set Up a Wi-Fi Router
[11:11:09] <chromas> Pretty sad. You just plug it in now. Don't even have to enable encryption anymore
[11:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:17:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5058
[11:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nebula VPN Routes Between Hosts Privately, Flexibly, and Efficiently - https://sylnt.us - I-didn't-see-what-you-did-there
[11:36:51] <chromas> =contribute Dammit! https://gizmodo.com
[11:36:53] <systemd> Submitting "Feds Break Up Illegal Streaming Network That Dwarfs Netflix and Hulu Libraries"...
[11:37:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Feds Break Up Illegal Streaming Network That Dwarfs Netflix and Hulu Libraries" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:45:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's "Feds Break Up Illegal Streaming Network That Little Peoples Netflix and Hulu Libraries" you insensitive clod!
[11:46:32] <chromas> Better go edit the db
[11:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw dat, you're an editor
[11:47:01] <chromas> Can't change it from the subs page
[11:47:11] <chromas> Needs teh SQLs
[11:47:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> can once it's a story
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[12:33:10] <FatPhil> right, off to the brewpub for a brisket brunch and a brand new barrel aged beer.
[12:37:09] <chromas> newaged beer
[13:28:57] <FatPhil> well, it hit the barrels some time in spring IIRC (plus/minus, this is a blend), but was only released on thursday.
[13:30:05] <FatPhil> is v. good, gonna buy several bottles to take home and age even more.
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[13:45:57] <FatPhil> and I got a 40% discount in the shop! woo woo!
[13:46:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Sobering Message about the Future at AI's Biggest Party - https://sylnt.us - I'll-think-about-it
[14:15:42] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:15:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5059
[14:29:46] <FatPhil> barrel aged barley wine++
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[14:36:34] <FatPhil> having said that, it would benefit from 1-2 more years to age properly.
[14:37:37] <Bytram> FatPhil: ahoy!
[14:37:44] <Bytram> how goes it?
[14:39:55] <FatPhil> a bit cold and wet, but apart from that, life is good.
[14:40:04] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:40:23] <FatPhil> don't care about cold and wet, as we'll stick the sauna on as soon as we get home.
[14:40:26] <Bytram> we had about 2 inches of rain day before yesterday, but at least it was comparatively warm.
[14:40:53] <Bytram> temp got up to about 9C
[14:40:58] <FatPhil> as long as there's some relief to help it drain away, that's OK
[14:41:32] <Bytram> and, it coincided with an astronomical high tide.
[14:41:42] <FatPhil> g/f's parents find themselves flooded in the middle of a lake when it rains like that (they're in the flattest of states)
[14:41:51] <Bytram> yep
[14:42:08] <Bytram> helps to live on a hill
[14:42:28] <Bytram> was wondering if I could pick your brain with a HTML/CSS question
[14:42:45] <FatPhil> feel free
[14:42:51] <Bytram> I have a hand-crafted table
[14:43:15] <Bytram> within which there are 6 columns
[14:43:39] <Bytram> I would like to make the left-hand-side of the 4th column a little thicker
[14:43:57] <Bytram> I could do that with border:left
[14:44:25] <Bytram> the question is: do you knowq a simple way to specify in CSS that this markup applies to the Nth column?
[14:44:30] <FatPhil> sounds like a td:nth-of-type(4) rule
[14:44:43] <Bytram> okaaaaay
[14:44:55] <Bytram> never used it, sounds interesting
[14:45:01] <FatPhil> may have misrememberd the exact syntax, but "nth" is what to search for
[14:45:27] <Bytram> vaguely recall seeing that somewhere a while back
[14:45:29] <Bytram> thanks@
[14:45:32] <Bytram> thanks!
[14:46:42] <Bytram> hmmm, I see there is also: :nth-child
[14:47:07] <FatPhil> whatever I use for alignment here. http://fatphil.org
[14:47:09] <systemd> ^ 03Top Region-raters of England (2019-12-15) (detailed)
[14:48:05] <FatPhil> given the logical breakdown of tr's into td's and nothing else, the nth-child shoudl be the same.
[14:48:22] <Bytram> would also handle TH vs TD
[14:49:24] <Bytram> I assume I would apply it to the TR element? tr:nth-child(4) {border-left: solid black 2px}
[14:49:30] <Bytram> ???
[14:50:30] <FatPhil> I think it's the td that gets the style
[14:50:45] <Bytram> ok
[14:51:12] <Bytram> I will find out in a bit... as soon as I can figure out where in the file to put it.
[14:53:03] <FatPhil> just crib from my html, I do the styles inline in the header.
[14:54:09] <FatPhil> notice my tr:nth-of-type(5n)... for colouring blocks of lines alternately. aids readability in wide tables.
[14:54:14] <Bytram> on my way
[15:01:08] <Bytram> took a bit, but I got the *idea* of what you were doing, but not sure of the significance of the *syntax*
[15:01:45] <Bytram> tbody.banded tr:nth-of-type(10n+1),tbody.banded tr:nth-of-type(10n+2), ... { background: #d8e1f3; }
[15:02:29] <Bytram> so... if you use "banded" in the class for a table,
[15:02:41] <Bytram> then the ???
[15:02:57] <Bytram> I see the "+1" and "+2" and so on thru "+5"
[15:03:17] <Bytram> I am not understanding what the "10n+" means?
[15:06:12] <FatPhil> modulo arithmetic
[15:06:25] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:06:30] <FatPhil> 5n+1 means 1, 6,...
[15:06:30] * Bytram is reading: https://css-tricks.com
[15:07:12] * Bytram is reading: https://css-tricks.com
[15:17:11] <FatPhil> css is quite powerful, and while I like to use it, I don't like the fact that most things won't work on w3m
[15:18:07] <FatPhil> fortunately bollocks like colours are irrelevant for w3m, so I don't even need about backward compatibility for stuff like that
[15:18:59] <Bytram> ok, finally got a specific enough selector to see it do something...
[15:19:30] <Bytram> ahhhhh, let's here it for colspan messing things up.
[15:20:20] <Runaway1956> I've never trusted Colonel Span
[15:21:15] <FatPhil> that's Col. Mustard, with the lead piping in the lavatory
[15:22:03] <Bytram> hmmm,
[15:22:17] <Bytram> I can mark it up using firebug and see it work...
[15:22:37] <Bytram> and the selector is there, but not my markup I wanted to apply.
[15:24:15] <FatPhil> I'm not at home presently, but will be in half an hour or so, I can take a peek at your source then if your still 'avin' a spot-a-bovver.
[15:24:22] <Bytram> typo fixed... now selecting, kinda.
[15:24:30] <Bytram> I'm getting there!
[15:25:08] <FatPhil> the rule not being reognised is my usual failur mode.
[15:25:48] <Bytram> just need to apply to the 5th TD or TH child of the 1st or 2nd row, and to the 4th child of any subsequent rows
[15:26:11] <Bytram> actually, my problem was that I wrote "margin-left" when I meant "border-left"
[15:26:16] <FatPhil> i wish the css parser would give better error messages ("what's 'mth-of-type', numbnuts?!")
[15:26:25] <Bytram> ROFL!
[15:26:40] <FatPhil> I hate the box model
[15:26:56] <Bytram> Well,, it may end up looking gross, but I've figured out how to do it *explicitly*
[15:27:14] <FatPhil> in particular as MS decided to create their own alternative interpretation of the same syntax
[15:27:25] <Bytram> which is prolly good so if I ever need to update it later, I will be able to figure out what I was trying to do!
[15:27:44] <Bytram> ugh.
[15:27:53] <Bytram> why am I not surprised?
[15:28:10] <FatPhil> first: works; next: clean; finally: smart. early aborts permitted.
[15:28:25] <Bytram> In this case, it is (mostly) only for my personal use.
[15:28:53] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[15:29:10] <FatPhil> I tend to get obsessed with finding the smartest and most portable way, so I burn hours fussing over trivialities.
[15:29:36] <Bytram> I need it to work on Pale Moon... but if I send it to my manager to use with all the nice Javascript I put in, she's gonna be using it on a corporate windows box.
[15:29:47] <Bytram> prolly on either in 8.1 or win 10
[15:29:58] <Bytram> thoroughness++
[15:29:59] <Bender> karma - thoroughness: 1
[15:30:09] <Bytram> biab
[15:30:51] <FatPhil> well, with MS ditching their old browser, and basing the latest one of one of the OSS engines, compatibility should be easier now.
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[15:31:36] <Hornbill> Wussup niggas
[15:31:44] <FatPhil> I've never asked a windows user what any of my pages look like on their machine. I don't care.
[15:32:25] <FatPhil> The blind friend who uses a screen reader - every time I use new tech she gets asked to vet it. I do care.
[15:33:51] <Hornbill> My blind friend envisions my cock as a hornless triceratops
[15:36:00] <Hornbill> Gotta go take a fat shit. I knew I shouldn't have chopped those habaneros into my meatballs last night
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[15:36:37] <Bytram> FatPhil: thanks so much for the assistance!
[15:37:25] <Bytram> at this point, it's doing different things depending on whether it the 1st or subsequent table, and not picking the correct columns, either.
[15:38:16] <Bytram> I learned something very useful, but time is pressing so I'm just gonna add explicit class on the items I want to adjust.
[15:38:20] <Bytram> thanks again!
[15:43:41] <FatPhil> use a class= in the <table>, and set the rule to only apply to tables with the appropriate class.
[15:45:44] <Bytram> yep, is what I'm doing, but I actually have the same table layout, mostly, but used 11 different times... so I have 11 tables.
[15:46:25] <Bytram> brute force is effective. not pretty, but I'll know what I did, later.
[15:46:32] <Bytram> break time
[15:46:36] <Bytram> thanks again!
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[16:05:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Achieves Its Goal of Erasing the WWW Subdomain from Chrome - https://sylnt.us - making-it-easy-for-fake-sites
[16:19:02] <FatPhil> np
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[17:15:50] <SoyCow1337> =declined
[17:15:50] <systemd> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. At least a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would likely have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
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[18:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Senate Judiciary Committee Interrogates Apple, Facebook about Crypto - https://sylnt.us - task-the-NSA-with-making-it
[20:47:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Finally Giving Boot to Official Foot Measurement - https://sylnt.us - that-foot-stinks
[21:05:35] <FatPhil> I can't get reddit to work on my browser, can someone tell me what the gdrive link for *english* subs for this is please: https://www.reddit.com
[21:05:37] <systemd> ^ 03r/panelshow - Kongen Befaler (Taskmaster Norway) S01E08 (w/ Eng subs)
[21:06:45] <FatPhil> it's age restricted
[21:11:43] <FatPhil> No amount of JS improves things :(
[21:29:21] <carny> let's replace reddit with a darkweb version that doesn't need age restrictions
[21:35:34] <FatPhil> looks like the g/f has got the link out of the google cache of the page (which never works for me)
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[22:14:04] <chromas> FatPhil: old.reddit.com
[22:24:56] <FatPhil> ooh, thanks, that does appear to work when cookies are reenabled.
[23:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - VISA Warns of Ongoing Cyber Attacks on Gas Pump PoS Systems - https://sylnt.us