#soylent | Logs for 2019-12-17

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[01:45:23] <TheMightyPhone> so, cable modem's fried again. try and get another tomorrow. on your own till then.
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[02:53:29] <pinchy> sounds like another mandatory fishing day tommorrow for ol TMB
[02:56:07] <carny> does tmb have a problem with lightning?
[02:56:23] <carny> they make surge supressors for cable feeds
[02:57:16] <pinchy> optical isolation is the only way to be sure
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[04:24:12] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:24:12] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
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[04:24:39] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[04:36:05] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[04:36:40] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://phys.org
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[04:37:29] <SoyCow4408> =submit https://phys.org
[04:37:33] <systemd> Submitting "How does our Milky Way galaxy get its spiral form?"...
[04:37:41] <SoyCow4408> #smake MrPlow
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[04:39:32] <SoyCow4408> ~sybmit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[04:39:38] <SoyCow4408> ~submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[04:39:49] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
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[04:40:28] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
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[04:42:58] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.theregister.co.uk
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[04:45:27] <SoyCow4408> =submit https://phys.org
[04:45:29] <systemd> Submitting "Satnav watching over rugby players"...
[04:45:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Satnav Watching Over Rugby Players" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:49:30] <SoyCow4408> #submit https://www.cnet.com
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[05:21:01] <systemd> Submitting "Your workmates might still be reading that 'unshared' Slack document"...
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[15:12:20] <Bytram> coffee++
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[15:12:23] <Bytram> =time x
[15:12:28] <Bytram> ~time x
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[18:59:03] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[19:01:13] * FatPhil 's tummy grumbles
[19:14:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> running off a wireless fob at the moment. wasn't just the cable modem that got fried, network card ate it too.
[19:24:20] <FatPhil> yikes? mains spike?
[19:24:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> lightning prolly. during a thunderstorm.
[19:24:53] <FatPhil> last time several things got taken out at once was when the UPS blew, and blew everything cnonected to it at the same time
[19:25:14] <FatPhil> have you tried surge protectors?
[19:27:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the ethernet and cable lines? nah.
[19:32:22] <Bytram> FatPhil: Ewww! The UPS blew? So the one thing that was supposed to *protect* your devices ended up nuking them? =(
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[19:51:26] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: Runaway1956__: /me notes that the tail on your nick keeps getting longer... Pinochio? ;)
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[19:53:30] <Runaway1956__> LOL Bytram - I've registered 3 nicks, each with a successively longer "tail"
[19:56:13] <Bytram> *laughter*
[19:56:33] <Bytram> way to go... Tiger!
[19:58:58] <FatPhil> Bytram: yup, and it was pitch black at the time in the room, I flicked the light switch, and the first thing I saw was a bright blue flash that lit up the whole room, that was the UPS.
[19:59:31] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: can you put a surge supressor on the cable line?
[19:59:33] <FatPhil> shitty fucking building built in the 1970s when there was mass migration from the countryside to the capital region
[20:00:11] <carny> i used to have one that worked for a 10mbps connection but i have no idea how high that can go before the supressor ruins the signal
[20:00:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, probably but i've never met a surge protector of any kind that worked against lightning strikes
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[20:01:14] <carny> well the telco industry has lightning arrestors for all kinds of equipment and links
[20:01:32] <carny> so i just assume the cable guys have them too
[20:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh they'll say they protect you from surges but they sure as shit don't when one actually comes along.
[20:02:15] <carny> i'm not talking about junk from belkin or monster cable
[20:02:26] * TheMightyBuzzard has had insane amounts of kit release the magic smoke while on a surge protector.
[20:02:29] <carny> with their bogus $25000 warranty
[20:03:14] <carny> you can bet that a telco lightning arrestor is designed to blow itself out before it lets a bolt through to that $200 million central office switch
[20:03:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nowadays i just consider them power strips with a handy off switch
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[20:03:28] <carny> right
[20:04:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah but it's cheaper to buy a new desktop than something that'll damned sure protect a desktop
[20:04:16] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[20:04:19] <carny> https://www.amazon.com
[20:04:19] <systemd> ^ 03Robot Check
[20:06:24] <Bytram> carny: I agree w/ what you said about telco wanting to protect their switching gear... they do NOT want to mess around with that.
[20:08:52] <carny> there used to be cellular equipment that used microwaves sent through a metal tube full of air to provide an actual air gap
[20:09:15] <carny> to keep the equipment at the bottom of the tower better isolated from the top
[20:09:22] <Bytram> would not surprise me in the least.
[20:09:24] <carny> or maybe it was a plastic tube
[20:10:08] <Runaway1956> A plastic porntube?
[20:11:21] <carny> anyway if i had high lightning risk at my place i'd isolate the cable and telco coming into the building and put the power behind at least protective 2 devices
[20:12:27] <carny> power is dicey but you can do a decent job by letting each layer of the defenses burn out to protect the next layer
[20:13:10] <Bytram> serial fuses
[20:13:33] <Runaway1956> Serial killers?
[20:13:36] <carny> well i don't think they call them fuses but yeah
[20:13:40] <Bytram> and not side-by-side, either.
[20:13:55] <Bytram> nod nod; just giving an analogy.
[20:14:40] <Runaway1956> It's best to have a surge protector at the electric pole, AND another in the house. Then consider putting a surge protector on equipment afterwards
[20:15:06] <Runaway1956> But, that's just a little pricey, and no one wants to spend that money
[20:15:50] <Bytram> whole house protection is pricey, but what price for peace of mind? Especially if you have a home charger for your EV.
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[21:00:48] <carny> looks like there are gigabit ethernet surge protectors now too
[21:01:08] <carny> that would be a nice layer of protection for just $25
[21:02:59] <carny> if you don't care about watching the blinky lights you could maybe put your cable modem outside with something like this https://www.amazon.com
[21:03:00] <systemd> ^ 03Robot Check
[21:03:02] <Cascade> Just switch over to fiber. Way cooler
[21:03:52] <carny> yeah fiber is probably the way to go for networks that can use it
[21:05:02] <Cascade> I thought we were supposed to have optical CPUs by now. Has sensationalist media overhyped me?
[21:05:37] * Cascade blames beta
[21:06:00] <Bytram> they are making progress, but may be a while longer before things get shrunk down to a usable desktop size.
[21:06:56] <Cascade> They just need to put more carbon nanotubes in. And block chain. That'll do it.
[21:08:16] * Cascade solves technology
[21:08:38] <Bytram> maybe they need an unblock chain so the light can pass through?
[21:08:44] <Runaway1956> quantum nanotubes!!
[21:09:26] <Cascade> Sounds like quantum freakin' hyperloops. Where do I dump my piles of cash?
[21:09:49] <Runaway1956> I have a vault to dump cash into
[21:10:02] <Runaway1956> it leads to the septic tank
[21:10:43] * Cascade grabs a wheel barrow
[21:11:18] <Runaway1956> Where is Cascade from? Cascade Mountains?
[21:12:44] * Runaway1956 realizes it's way past normal bedtime
[21:12:57] <Cascade> Nah, Proctor & Gamble
[21:13:24] <Runaway1956> sounds about right - everything is commercialized today
[21:22:32] <Cascade> These caramel bananapple cinnamon rolls are pretty good but I forgot the salt
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