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[00:02:51] <FatPhil> probably this: https://t.co
[00:02:52] <systemd> ^ 03https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking/status/1214686952458506245/video/1
[00:03:53] <Soyguest1701> Oh good
[00:04:04] Soyguest1701 is now known as Sulla
[00:11:36] <FatPhil> We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.
[00:11:58] <FatPhil> Phew - can we finally relax?
[00:12:04] <FatPhil> Or will there be an encore?
[00:16:51] <Sulla> When greater israel is realized we will be a dry husk but they will finally be done
[00:19:28] <FatPhil> regret giving them billions of dollars of military hardware every year for the last few decades now?
[00:19:42] <Sulla> I've regretted it ever since I learned about it
[00:19:52] <Sulla> Always felt Iran would have been a better ally in the ME
[00:21:04] <FatPhil> yup, g/f's dad was tearing his hair out as they couldn't get the equipment and parts to repair old shit, and Israel was being gifted shiny brand spanking new shit.
[00:21:24] <FatPhil> The Iran of yore perhaps
[00:21:33] <FatPhil> I'm literally thinking 60 years back
[00:23:26] <Sulla> What I find most interesting is that Rouhani tweeted "those who refer to the number 52 should also remember the number 290"
[00:24:31] <FatPhil> airbus go boom?
[00:24:40] <Sulla> Yeah
[00:24:53] <Sulla> I'm now questioning how much stuff i blamed on israeli false flags actually was iranians
[00:25:41] <Sulla> will all depend on whether the rockets were actually fired from inside iran i guess
[00:26:26] <FatPhil> i'm sure there were satelites able to detect those launches, so
[00:26:49] <FatPhil> the US will know to flatten it tomorrow
[00:27:14] <FatPhil> That base may as well fire everything it's got tonight.
[00:27:20] <FatPhil> Yay, jolly.
[00:27:34] <Sulla> I presume all their airbases, oil refineries, oil fields, missile silos will be gone soon
[00:28:04] <Sulla> I suppose rohanni could throw the revolutionary guard under the bus, but doubt it
[00:28:30] <Sulla> Hopefully civilian deaths in iran are as close to zero as possible
[00:28:51] <FatPhil> the number of millions won't deviate from 0 much, certainly.
[01:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, qtwebengine takes longer to compile than the kernel and llvm put together
[01:22:25] <FatPhil> hasn't that been the case for decades?
[01:24:03] <FatPhil> a kernel compile only took a couple of minutes on a laptop in the same year that some gtk-based browser
[01:25:19] <FatPhil> took hours
[01:35:36] <chromas> Kernel takes a couple hour for me
[01:36:01] <chromas> But it does compile everything. Going through the whole set of config options would take even longer
[01:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> still going
[01:42:11] <Bytram> EnergizerBunny++
[01:42:11] <Bender> karma - energizerbunny: 1
[01:42:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> wabbitseason++
[01:42:58] <Bender> karma - wabbitseason: 1
[01:44:55] <Bytram> #yt the wabbit kicked the bucket
[01:44:55] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- the wabbit kicked the bucket..
[01:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd play some vidya to pass the time but it likes to use the cpu
[01:45:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Find New Way to Sustainably Make Chemicals by Copying Nature's Tricks - https://sylnt.us - some-assembly-required
[01:45:52] <chromas> Why don't we have gpu-based compilation yet?
[01:46:52] <FatPhil> I compiled my kernel on my phone (600MHz 32bit ARM) in 2 hours back in 2010. You're enabling too much bloat.
[01:46:59] <Bytram> because it would take more time to move the source code to the GPU and he object code back that it would take to compile it as we already do: at the CPU.
[01:47:14] <FatPhil> cross-compiling is old tech
[01:47:38] <chromas> Instead of a compiling, train a neural net to do it. They can do everything now
[01:48:19] <Bytram> Also GPUs are excellent at parallel processing (SIMD or MIMD) but not so hot on ad hoc
[01:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, https://www.youtube.com is a more important bit of merikan cinema
[01:48:41] <systemd> ^ 03I Demand That You Shoot Me Now!
[01:49:01] <FatPhil> however, gpus aren;t that great at text processing, and random memory accesses, which is what most of compiling is
[01:49:33] <FatPhil> Oh, here's some happy happy fun fun cinema short I just watched: https://www.youtube.com
[01:49:34] <systemd> ^ 03A man uncovers the horrifying truth of what landed on his childhood farm.
[01:49:35] * TheMightyBuzzard trains a hair net to do it instead
[01:49:35] <chromas> Sounds like an excuse. It's all numbers
[01:50:13] <FatPhil> the clue's in the memory accesses, most real-world computing is memory bound
[01:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i have not one but TWO spare cast nets i could compile on
[01:50:23] <chromas> And uncertainty of output due to floats just increases the possibility that bugs will be optimized out :D
[01:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't float though, they sink
[01:51:08] <pinchy> huh that vidya doesnt have a view count on it
[01:51:25] <Bytram> =g castanets
[01:51:26] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Castanets - Wikipedia
[01:51:34] <chromas> 319,459 views
[01:51:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: You have two of those ^^^
[01:51:49] <Bytram> ???
[01:52:59] <pinchy> no views? https://www.youtube.com
[01:53:00] <systemd> ^ 03I Demand That You Shoot Me Now!
[01:53:26] <chromas> 458,831 views
[01:53:40] <pinchy> comments disabled etc
[01:53:49] <pinchy> must have had copyright claims but let it go
[01:54:00] * TheMightyBuzzard lurves mexican food
[01:57:45] <pinchy> huh those old videos must be using a older js version of the page that doesnt render right
[02:08:11] <Bytram> pinchy: maybe it just renders... left?
[02:11:00] <pinchy> that count text is nowhere to be found. must be something with the ad blockers and gecko whatever render engine
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[11:52:35] <FatPhil> Fun - there are Estonian troops in the bases that Iran has attacked.
[12:24:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> Is the Estonian government as stupid and vindictive as the current US administration, though?
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[13:36:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, you get that turn the other cheek isn't a viable option for a nation with its fingers in as many pies as we have ours in, yes?
[13:39:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup.
[13:40:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> But I also get that POTUS is now, directly, a murderer.
[13:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> same could be said of lincoln if you're looking to hate on him
[13:43:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> as a general rule though, military officers who've been taking a personal, active role in planning attacks on you don't get considered to be murdered when you kill them
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[14:35:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> naps++ # too bad I'm at work and don't get to take one
[14:35:26] <Bender> karma - naps: 105
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[15:25:30] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, so does that apply to all the military officers who are working in the Pentagon on plans to kill others?. If someone kills them it is not murder? So is it perfectly acceptable for say a Russian or Chinese person to kill them if they are serving overseas in, say, the UK or Germany?
[15:26:01] <janrinok> just asking for a friend...
[15:26:06] <AzumaHazuki> LOL!
[15:26:26] * AzumaHazuki can only stay for about 10 minutes to watch this but is expecting lulz
[15:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> military officers are always legit targets in military action.
[15:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> well unless you've taken them prisoner
[15:27:26] <janrinok> So if they are serving in a post in Europe do you interpret that as military action? Because such posts are all considered active military posts.
[15:28:31] <janrinok> I know, I know, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here
[15:29:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> where they're serving is irrelevant. if you're having yourself a military conflict, military officers on the opposing side are legit targets.
[15:30:33] <janrinok> So the USA is in military conflict with Iran in Iraq? The UK is also active there, but we are fighting against ISIS. Nobody is tasked with fighting Iranians. The Iraqis can invite whoever they want into their country.
[15:30:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> border skirmish levels of violence but yes, it's a military conflict
[15:32:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, dude was organizing what would be called militia groups here in the states to attack US and allied interests in Iraq. i'd say that prevents calling them a disinterested party.
[15:34:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i'd like to be out of the middle east but if you allow someone to attack you with impunity, you've guaranteed many more future attacks.
[15:35:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> so whether we should be there or not, we can't let attacks on us slide.
[15:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[15:36:55] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 750
[15:38:25] <AzumaHazuki> A little reflection on the last, oh, 150 years or so of Anglo-American meddling in the Middle East may be helpful right now
[15:38:37] <AzumaHazuki> and looking at some photos of Iran and Afghanistan from the 60s and 70s
[15:39:00] <AzumaHazuki> but, who the hell am I kidding, you've got the historical knowledge of a concussed sea urchin. Off to work.
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[15:39:33] <janrinok> Sorry, nurse arrived for S. So arrest those who are committing crimes in the USA. But putting UK, Estonian and other friendly troops at risk without even consulting with your 'Allies' seems to me to be something of a dick move
[15:42:03] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[15:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> it wasn't crimes committed in the usa, it was an Iranian general over in Iraq, organizing and planning attacks on US and allied folks in Iraq
[15:45:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, confused you with the "what would be called militia groups here in the states" phrase. i meant if they were here in the states, that's what we'd call them.
[15:46:33] <Ghoul> redbull--
[15:46:33] <Bender> karma - redbull: 1
[16:02:43] <janrinok> No evidence for what you are stating as justification has been presented to the rest of the world yet. We will wait.
[16:06:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> evidence is what you do in criminal proceedings or when you want to convince allies of something, it's not generally something presented publicly for every military action in a conflict
[16:09:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't sweat the "OMG, ORANGE MAN STARTED WWIII!!!!1!11!ONE" folks though. i don't think we'll be invading Iran over a few missiles that as far as i know didn't kill anyone.
[16:13:14] <janrinok> well there are a lot of politicians on this side of the pond that are wondering why the USA no longer counts us as allies, and their electorate would like to know that too.
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[16:36:57] <cmn32480> janrinok - give S a hug and a kiss for me
[16:38:07] <janrinok> I will - thanks. How's things with you?
[16:38:39] <cmn32480> been busy
[16:38:50] <cmn32480> doing a reorg at work trying to shuffle resources around
[16:39:00] <cmn32480> so lots of extra hours...
[16:39:07] <cmn32480> other than that, it's been good
[16:39:10] <cmn32480> how about you?
[16:39:11] <janrinok> last of my Christmas guest left this morning. More arriving this weekend maybe
[16:40:10] <cmn32480> damn... you Europeans take your christmas holiday seriously!
[16:40:15] <cmn32480> and for a long time
[16:40:26] <janrinok> plenty of time for sleeping when we are dead?!
[16:40:42] <cmn32480> but an occassional nap woudln't hurt
[16:40:54] <janrinok> oh I get quite few of those
[16:41:10] <cmn32480> lucky! I am a little jhealous
[16:46:59] <janrinok> there are 12 days to Christmas of course. It didn't actually finish until 6 Jan, but not many people get that much of a break!
[16:47:11] <janrinok> Got to go eat now - biab
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[19:08:29] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard - Just for you! https://soylentnews.org
[19:08:30] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | What Texans are good for ( https://soylentnews.org )
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[19:45:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> Texas? Ain't nothing but steers and queers in Texas!
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[22:06:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Devices Allegedly Use Qihoo 360 Spyware to Phone Home to China - https://sylnt.us - not-the-first-time
[22:15:20] <FatPhil> For all you fans of fine cinema: https://birthmoviesdeath.com
[22:15:21] <systemd> ^ 03A Conversation With The Guy Who Took Mushrooms And Saw CATS
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[22:22:29] <Sulla> nothing funner than having packages lost in shipping
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[23:32:52] <chromas> TranPhil
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