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[00:47:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Chrome Temporarily Rolls Back SameSite Cookie Security Change - https://sylnt.us - dialing-it-back-a-bit
[00:47:20] <AzumaHazuki> there, fresh clean laundry <3
[00:56:46] -!- dx3bydt3 [dx3bydt3!~quassel@99.192.sm.ouv] has parted #soylent
[01:00:52] <soybull> coffee++
[01:00:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5167
[01:05:01] <soybull> ages old complaint around here - one day is hot, next day cold, then hot again
[01:05:06] <soybull> no wonder everyone is sick
[01:05:28] <soybull> add in corona virus fears, and I do get tired of the complaints
[01:47:25] <Bytram> =g b39a8e3f5f8f981328c926c6bcb3f3b11cc007c826719f6e10e3eb628e0a6355
[01:47:26] <systemd> https://github.com - Main/xpdf-tools.json at master · ScoopInstaller/Main · GitHub
[01:47:47] <Bytram> =g dacd9d630d545e511ad6c3e994d1149978a347c4ec09d20dc4d5de63e85aeee2c60f94c673d2ac3ab1f22a965c012b8085fb91a188288f34f2e0c98eee44bb37
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[01:48:01] <Bytram> =g 2c3d2d59b84440d4538c60e86279777f
[01:48:02] <systemd> https://xpdf.en.lo4d.com - Virus and Malware - Xpdf
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[02:11:09] <soybull> Hmmmmm - the chief cook did a taco casserole experiment - not bad - need sour cream, which we don't have
[02:11:47] <Bytram> =yt lmGkIqu-mpc
[02:11:48] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Sara Bareilles - I Choose You (audio) (3:41)
[02:12:06] <Bytram> chromas: ^^^ ;)
[02:12:38] <chromas> Just add more cheese. Better than sour cream
[02:12:40] <Bytram> soybull: that sounds interesting.
[02:13:03] <Bytram> =g how to make sour cream
[02:13:04] <systemd> https://www.biggerbolderbaking.com - How to Make Sour Cream Recipe (w/ Video) | Bigger Bolder Baking
[02:13:45] <soybull> very few things are better than sour cream
[02:14:31] <chromas> But you also can't have too much cheese
[02:17:22] <Bytram> =g a grand day out
[02:17:23] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - A Grand Day Out - Wikipedia
[02:17:47] <chromas> =yt baby's day out
[02:17:48] <systemd> https://youtube.com - baby&#39;s day out..American comedy movie. (1:19:45)
[02:18:00] <chromas> =yt baby's day out plinkett
[02:18:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Baby&#39;s Day Out Review (24:53)
[02:19:36] <chromas> I didn't know there was another Wallace and Gromit movie
[02:19:48] <Bytram> There are several.
[02:19:53] <Bytram> the wrong trousers
[02:20:11] <Bytram> =g wererabbit wallace gromit
[02:20:12] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit - Wikipedia
[02:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are no wrong trousers, only wrong legs
[02:20:23] <Bytram> =g the wrong trousers
[02:20:24] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - The Wrong Trousers - Wikipedia
[02:21:10] <Bytram> ^^^ I rate this one the best off those three.
[02:21:23] <chromas> That's the only one I knew of
[02:21:46] <chromas> Probably because the tv talked about it all the time when it came out
[02:22:06] <Bytram> Sad that the narrator for wallace in those has passed, so even if they resurrect wallace & gromit, it won't be the same
[02:22:20] <Bytram> =g close shave wallace gromit
[02:22:20] <chromas> I smell a soft reboot
[02:22:21] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - A Close Shave - Wikipedia
[02:23:00] <chromas> 'live-action' cgi brought to yuo by Disney
[02:23:02] <Bytram> Sorry, *that* voice was, and always will be, THE voice for Wallace.
[02:23:44] <Bytram> Mayhaps, though, with today's technology, they can take voice samples from all of those and create a ... vocaloid?
[02:23:49] <Bytram> =g vocaloid
[02:23:49] <systemd> https://www.vocaloid.com - VOCALOID – the modern singing synthesizer –
[02:26:02] <chromas> Yeah. Neural networks can do anything if you've got enough GPUs
[02:26:58] <chromas> Google's got a tool that's supposed to be able to convert your speech into someone else's voice
[02:27:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, even play video games
[02:27:33] <Bytram> More power, to the deflector shields Scottie! I can' cap'ain, I'm giving it everythin' she's got!
[02:27:38] <chromas> Or maybe it's test-to-speech. Butt they claimed it would even have all the right pauses and stuff
[02:28:09] <carny> adobe made one of those
[02:28:25] <carny> they killed the product because the abuse potential was too great
[02:28:40] <carny> but they probably sold it to some governments for tons of cash
[02:28:59] <chromas> hahahaha
[02:29:11] <chromas> muh social responsibility
[02:29:13] <carny> have you seen the video?
[02:29:37] <chromas> all the tools are out there. anyone with a coin mining rig could replicate their success. they may as well just release it
[02:29:51] <carny> https://www.youtube.com
[02:29:53] <systemd> ^ 03#VoCo. Adobe Audio Manipulator Sneak Peak with Jordan Peele
[02:30:05] <carny> yeah there are other projects
[02:31:03] <carny> and there was a demo from some dept of defense contractor a few years earlier where they made colin powell's voice say 'i have launched the missiles' or something like that
[02:31:17] <carny> but that wasn't real time
[02:32:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> good thing it's not FOSS. i'd use it for evil purposes.
[02:33:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> like making james earl jones say "i see your schwartz is as big as mine"
[02:37:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Executives Privately Insulted a Warehouse Worker, Then Attacked Him on Twitter - https://sylnt.us - digital-is-forever
[02:43:45] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[02:43:46] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Campus is Closed, So College Students are Rebuilding their Schools in Minecraft ( https://soylentnews.org )
[02:44:51] * Bytram has a relative graduating this year and want to send her a link to that story. I'm hoping for some upmods, and maybe some more positive replies than the troll fest it seems to have descended into.
[02:45:26] <chromas> You could just link to the article :)
[02:46:49] <Bytram> yes, I will. but looking at the current comments... well, I'd like to have something a bit more supportive to read beyond that. She's a really good kid. Smart, hardworking, and heading into a profession in health care. Scary times.
[02:51:51] <chromas> Remember when NCommander did a minecraft stream?
[02:53:08] <Bytram> I recall he did that, but I had nowhere near enough bandwidth to be able to consider watching it.
[02:54:27] <Bytram> though things are considerably better, now, even dvd resolution would be a challenge; especially with so many people being home and clogging the pipes
[02:54:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/pipes/tubes/
[02:58:50] <Bytram> =g alaska senator internet tubes
[02:58:51] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Series of tubes - Wikipedia
[02:59:01] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[02:59:02] <systemd> ^ 03VOCALOID5 - Walkthrough
[02:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, tried to come up with something cheerful but the best i got is life is hard but you get used to it
[03:01:44] <Bytram> =g peck life is difficult
[03:01:45] <systemd> https://www.goodreads.com - Quote by M. Scott Peck: “Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one o...”
[03:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, that's what i mean when i say the more you understand something the more simply you can state it. took him like 4x as long, of course he was trying to sound all wise and shit so that may have been intentional.
[03:06:56] <Bytram> IIRC, the opening sentence to one of his books was exactly what I wrote: "Life is difficult."
[03:13:46] <Fnord666> =g life is beautiful
[03:13:47] <systemd> https://lifeisbeautiful.com - LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL Music & Art Festival
[03:14:29] <Fnord666> =g life is beautiful six https://www.youtube.com
[03:14:29] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Sixx A.M. --life is beautiful lyrics - YouTube
[03:14:47] <Bytram> That VOCALOID5 - Walkthrough video is ... amazing!
[03:15:43] <Bytram> We have come a LONG ways from adding a graphic EQ or reverb unit to the tape loop on a receiver!
[03:34:55] <Fnord666> That is crazy!
[03:37:23] <Fnord666> unfortunately it's too pricey to play around with
[03:39:32] <FatPhil> -gday everyone
[03:40:05] <chromas> =g'day exec
[03:40:05] * systemd illegitimately shoves a shot of paperclips in exec
[03:42:24] <FatPhil> one day, I can't get to sleep until 5, 2 days later, I wake up at 5. Not sure my body has any clue what it's doing any more.
[03:48:08] <GrandFireWizard> did it ever?
[04:01:36] <Bytram> Fnord666: I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw them (from memory) take a beat sample, superimposed a melody, picked a voice, typed in some words, hit "play", and it sang!
[04:04:42] <Bytram> I know a bit about computer software, mixed some concerts back in the early 80's (we had an active passover feeding three amps on each side driving 300W (dual VOT bass boxes) + 200W (dual horns) + 80W (dual tweeters) on *each* side.)
[04:06:35] <Bytram> It was fed from a 16-input mixing board with parametric EQ, pan, and volume on each channel, along with a graphic EQ across the whole thing to adjust for room acoustics.
[04:06:46] <Bytram> BTW, amps were by Crown. =)
[04:06:59] <Bytram> At the time, it was a leading-edge setup.
[04:11:22] <Bytram> Had a lot of fun playing with the inputs and trying to set up the perfect mix so what came out of the speakers matched with who was where on stage, and had the right balance, volume-wise, for each instrument and singer. Then finessed the parametric EQ on each input to adjust the volume of each of (high, mid, and low) so as to best harmonize the whole thing.
[04:11:25] <Bytram> Fun times.
[04:11:50] <Bytram> So, I have an 'ear' for how things sound.
[04:12:29] <Bytram> This VOCALOID5... is all *software* and ... words just fail me!
[04:20:03] <FatPhil> when g/f wakes up, I'll give it a spin
[04:20:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[04:20:54] <FatPhil> she told me that she has no work queued for the morning, so plans to sleep late :/
[04:21:08] <Bytram> good for her.
[04:21:12] <Bytram> not so much for you atm.
[04:21:23] <FatPhil> great timing, eh?
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[04:27:11] <Bytram> headphones++
[04:27:11] <Bender> karma - headphones: 1
[04:28:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Fingerprint-Verified Smart Lock Can be Foiled by a Magnet - https://sylnt.us - not-very-secure
[04:28:39] <FatPhil> not read SN for several days, just popped up a story, and the first 3 posts I feel the need to reverse the prevailing moderation direction, I might need more modpoints at this rate.
[04:44:05] <chromas> Oh yes, free mod points to help people out during lockdown
[05:00:37] <Bytram> =g unicode cod point 8364
[05:00:38] <systemd> https://www.rapidtables.com - Unicode characters table
[05:01:00] <Bytram> =g unicode code point \u+8364
[05:01:00] <systemd> https://www.fileformat.info - Unicode Character 'EURO SIGN' (U+20AC)
[05:01:15] <Bytram> =g unicode code point &#8364;
[05:01:16] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Code point - Wikipedia
[05:01:25] <Bytram> =g unicode &#8364;
[05:01:26] <systemd> https://home.unicode.org - Unicode – The World Standard for Text and Emoji
[05:01:41] <chromas> If you're on Windows you can do the alt-numpad thing
[05:01:41] <Bytram> =g fileformat.info &#8364;
[05:01:41] <systemd> https://www.fileformat.info - FileFormat.Info · The Digital Rosetta Stone
[05:02:00] <Bytram> in hexadecimal?
[05:02:29] <chromas> No
[05:02:46] <chromas> But xml entities (&x8364;) are decimal
[05:03:58] <Bytram> &#8364; is *decimal*... &#x8364; would be hex
[05:05:15] <chromas> Nobody should be using those anyway.
[05:05:33] <chromas> sites_that_use_xml_entities_besides_gt_lt_and_amp--
[05:05:33] <Bender> karma - sites_that_use_xml_entities_besides_gt_lt_and_amp: -1
[05:06:56] * chromas hopes they really feel that decrement
[05:08:21] <Bytram> sites_that_use_xml_entities_besides_gt_lt_and_amp++ Now there's nothing to it!
[05:08:21] <Bender> karma - sites_that_use_xml_entities_besides_gt_lt_and_amp: 0
[05:09:08] <Bytram> Hey, I was just reading in the journals and saw you mention feeling sick a while ago. How ya feeling? Better I hope!
[05:10:04] <chromas> Yeah. It was a couple weeks ago. But now I don't have an excuse for not contributing to the site :'(
[05:10:10] <chromas> thanks for the check-in :D
[05:10:35] <Bytram> Much better for me to check in than for you to check out!
[05:11:26] <chromas> Dunston vs the Roach Motel
[05:11:40] <Bytram> :laughter:
[05:13:09] <chromas> TheLink's journal entry made me wonder how big of a deal pointer bloat is on 64-bit systems
[05:14:01] <chromas> It's not like browsers need more than 3.8GB of ram, especially with process-per-tab
[05:15:33] <Bytram> Pale moon seems to peak out at about 2 GB for me.
[05:18:27] <chromas> Windows XP took about 15 seconds to boot from an IDE HDD. I don't see what 10 has to do at boot time that XP didn't, aside from loading 32-bit icons to look like I'm using a CGA monitor.
[05:19:04] * chromas shakes fist
[05:19:09] <chromas> Ah oh, I'm getting old. Help
[05:20:09] <chromas> *Old man yells at cloud storage*
[05:20:20] <Bytram> chromas++
[05:20:20] <Bender> karma - chromas: 279
[05:22:18] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor
[05:22:19] <systemd> https://www.cnn.com - Surgeon General Jerome Adams: This week will be 'Pearl Harbor ...
[05:22:35] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor -cnn
[05:22:36] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Surgeon General Warns Next Week Will Be 'Our Pearl Harbor ...
[05:22:51] <chromas> I heard it was going to be 9/11
[05:22:54] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor -cnn -youtube.com
[05:22:55] <systemd> https://www.politico.com - Surgeon general warns this week 'is going to be our Pearl Harbor ...
[05:23:12] <chromas> Which I guess means it'll be replayed over and over on tv and then we'll have more rights trampled
[05:23:57] <Bytram> I don't think so. Now they are going to hobble our lefts, too!
[05:24:09] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor -cnn -youtube.com -politico
[05:24:10] <systemd> https://www.nbcnews.com - Surgeon General warns next week will be 'our Pearl Harbor moment ...
[05:24:23] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor -cnn -youtube.com -politico -nbcnews
[05:24:24] <systemd> https://www.foxnews.com - Surgeon general warns this week will be 'our Pearl Harbor moment ...
[05:24:35] <Bytram> =g surgeon general peal harbor -cnn -youtube.com -politico -nbcnews -foxnews
[05:24:36] <systemd> https://talkingpointsmemo.com - Surgeon General: 'Pearl Harbor Moment' | Talking Points Memo
[05:24:38] <chromas> Are you looking for a specific source?
[05:25:17] <Bytram> something reputable-ish and that, when I load it in my browser, displays text of the announcement.
[05:25:45] <chromas> I think youtube is the most reputable of all the sources you've found so far :)
[05:26:13] <chromas> Oh the YouTube link is from NBC's channel
[05:26:16] <Bytram> https://www.theguardian.com
[05:26:18] <systemd> ^ 03US surgeon general warns of 'Pearl Harbor moment' as Americans face 'hardest week'
[05:26:57] <chromas> That's different from the title in their rss feed
[05:27:15] <chromas> title_experiments--
[05:27:15] <Bender> karma - title_experiments: -1
[05:28:22] <Bytram> ars tries two, and whichever gets the most hits in (10?) minutes becomes the final title.
[05:28:55] <Bytram> original title is in the URL, so is easy to tell when they changed their mind.
[05:29:00] <chromas> Remember when all their links used to end with .ars ?
[05:29:14] <Bytram> nope
[05:29:20] <chromas> like a file extension
[05:29:32] <Bytram> nod nod
[05:29:39] <Bytram> Just don't recall seeing it.
[05:29:56] <chromas> It was awhile back. You were probably still a young'un.
[05:30:48] <Bytram> What do you mean? I'm still a young'un!
[05:31:15] <Bytram> I may not run as fast as I used to, but I'm still as tar as a shack!
[05:31:16] <chromas> Oh yes.
[05:31:24] <chromas> I used to be young. I still am, but I used to be too
[05:31:33] <Bytram> lol
[05:31:42] * chromas steals from Mitch Hedberg
[05:31:51] <chromas> =yt I used to do drugs
[05:31:52] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Mitch Hedberg - I Used to Do Drugs (11)
[05:32:26] <chromas> That's the worst delivery of that joke I've heard him do
[05:32:48] <Bytram> hey, that bangles video?
[05:33:03] <Bytram> did you notice when the string broke on one of the guitars?
[05:33:37] <chromas> No but I remember someone mentioning something like that. Either one of them between songs or maybe in the comments
[05:33:50] <Bytram> comments.
[05:34:04] <Bytram> around 27 minutes in, IIRC.
[05:34:20] <Bytram> didn't skip a beat (heh!)
[05:34:36] <Bytram> it was the lead guitarist (the one on the left)
[05:35:32] <Bytram> beg-o-meter updated
[05:36:48] <Bytram> =g youtube ZTXpRNIDpy0
[05:36:49] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Trump grilled over continued promotion of hydroxychloroquine to ...
[05:37:26] <chromas> Mmm, grilled Trump
[05:37:38] <chromas> Time for some Midnight BBQ
[05:38:00] <Bytram> much better than the usual half-baked?
[05:40:11] <chromas> It's the best. We have...everyone tells me we have the best Midnight BBQs. They say "I've never seen bigger Midnight BBQs" and it's true!
[05:42:57] <Bytram> there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see
[05:46:31] <Bytram> chromas: I noticed the subs queue was slim, lobbed a quick sub in there.
[05:46:36] <Bytram> you get fisr dibs
[05:46:44] <Bytram> first dibs, even
[05:47:48] <chromas> =submit https://www.eurekalert.org
[05:47:48] <chromas> =submit https://newatlas.com
[05:47:48] <chromas> =contribute https://siliconangle.com +https://www.zdnet.com/article/zoom-concedes-custom-encryption-is-sub-standard-as-citizen-lab-pokes-holes-in-it/
[05:47:48] <chromas> =contribute https://www.news.com.au
[05:47:48] <chromas> =submit https://www.news.com.au
[05:47:50] <systemd> Submitting "Experimental organic proton battery charges in minutes"...
[05:47:50] <systemd> Submitting "Coronavirus lockdowns have caused the Earth to effectively stop shaking"...
[05:47:50] <systemd> Submitting "Coronavirus lockdowns have caused the Earth to effectively stop shaking"...
[05:47:50] <systemd> Submitting "Mysteries of Uranus' oddities explained by Japanese astronomers"...
[05:47:52] <systemd> Submitting "More security and privacy concerns dog Zoom"...
[05:47:54] <chromas> Wow, all the way down to 8 subs
[05:48:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Experimental Organic Proton Battery Charges in Minutes" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:48:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Coronavirus Lockdowns Have Caused the Earth to Effectively Stop Shaking" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:48:12] <systemd> chromas, 04submit failed: Rehash error: "Failed to create submission"
[05:48:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mysteries of Uranus' Oddities Explained by Japanese Astronomers" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:48:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03More Security and Privacy Concerns Dog Zoom" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:48:24] <chromas> Oh I made my own dupe
[05:49:25] <chromas> Actually the queue looks like my news feed when I filter out the corona
[06:16:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Everlane Customer Experience Workers Say They Were Illegally Laid Off - https://sylnt.us - bad-timing
[06:23:38] <Bytram> =g ESO RSS
[06:23:39] <systemd> https://www.elderscrollsonline.com - News - The Elder Scrolls Online
[06:23:43] <Bytram> lol
[06:23:56] <Bytram> =g ESO RSS European Space Organization
[06:23:57] <systemd> https://www.eso.org - European Southern Observatory (ESO)
[06:24:08] <Bytram> =g ESO "RSS" European Space Organization
[06:24:09] <systemd> https://www.space.com - Coronavirus prompts European Southern Observatory to close ...
[06:24:17] <Bytram> lol
[06:24:26] <Bytram> =g ESO "RSS" "European Space Organization"
[06:24:27] <systemd> https://dailygalaxy.com - Image of the Day: Human Technology Scans the Southern Milky Way
[06:24:47] <Bytram> =g ESO "RSS" "European Space Organization" --dailygalaxy
[06:24:48] <systemd> https://dailygalaxy.com - Image of the Day: Human Technology Scans the Southern Milky Way
[06:24:58] <chromas> =rss site:eso.org
[06:25:01] <chromas> =g rss site:eso.org
[06:25:02] <systemd> http://esoads.eso.org - RSS
[06:25:26] <Bytram> that is going to have to do it
[06:25:31] <Bytram> bedtime++
[06:25:31] <Bender> karma - bedtime: 3
[06:25:50] <Bytram> have a great night everybody!
[06:26:13] <chromas> Ewwww. Feedburner
[06:26:16] <chromas> =g'noight Bytram
[06:26:16] * systemd problematically stuffs a JFS volume of pantaloons into Bytram
[06:27:23] <chromas> or =g'mornin' for you
[08:06:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Xbox Creator Baked Ancient Bread With 4,000-Year-Old-Yeast - https://sylnt.us - old-and-crusty
[08:41:54] <FatPhil> Bored under lock-down? How about a craft project? https://www.youtube.com
[08:41:55] <systemd> ^ 03Archery Extreme: Ode To Joy!
[08:42:56] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[09:30:10] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[09:30:11] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 51/40F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 27%, Wind ~8mph. Tue: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 56/38F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 23%, Wind ~13mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 52/40F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~12mph.
[09:30:35] <FatPhil> How do I get those numbers as real temperatures?
[09:32:46] <janrinok> I don't think that there is a switch for the bot that does the conversions
[09:51:22] <FatPhil> it's a SMoP!
[09:53:52] <FatPhil> Noah Webster would say that the "a" in weather is an unnecessary vowel. So if americans want their derpy units, they should use the power of spelling reform and type "wether".
[09:55:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OneWeb Goes Bankrupt, Lays Off Staff, Will Sell Satellite-Broadband Business - https://sylnt.us - not-enough-space
[09:56:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: subtract 32 from them, then divide them by 1.8.
[09:57:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> (or get the bot's owner to add some code that reports temperatures in F for the US, and C for everywhere else.)
[10:01:40] <chromas> ^ Job for you, tmb
[10:23:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> C is of teh debil
[10:23:42] <FatPhil> YEah, but the debil's right
[10:23:54] <FatPhil> checkmate, churchgoers!
[10:25:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> 0-100 based on human comfort > 0-100 based on water freezing and boiling
[10:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> but teh debil ain't got no truck with human comfort, thus C
[10:42:37] <FatPhil> =g lpl
[10:42:37] <systemd> https://www.lpl.com - LPL Financial | Investment & Wealth Management Services ...
[10:42:55] <FatPhil> =g lpl -wealth
[10:42:56] <systemd> https://lol.gamepedia.com - LPL 2020 Spring - Leaguepedia | League of Legends Esports Wiki
[10:43:02] <FatPhil> =g lpl -wealth -league
[10:43:03] <systemd> https://www.lpl.arizona.edu - Lunar and Planetary Laboratory & Department of Planetary ...
[10:43:09] <FatPhil> =g lpl -wealth -league -lunar
[10:43:10] <systemd> https://www.genecards.org - LPL Gene - GeneCards | LIPL Protein | LIPL Antibody
[10:43:19] <FatPhil> =g lpl -wealth -league -lunar -gene
[10:43:19] <systemd> https://finance.yahoo.com - LG Display Co, Ltd AMERICAN DEP (LPL) Stock Price, Quote ...
[10:43:39] <FatPhil> =g lpl -wealth -league -lunar -gene -stock
[10:43:39] <systemd> https://www.lpl.com - Diversity & Inclusion at LPL | LPL Financial
[10:43:57] <FatPhil> =g lpl -financial -league -lunar -gene -stock
[10:43:57] <systemd> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov - Coding Variation in ANGPTL4, LPL, and SVEP1 and the Risk of ...
[10:44:17] <FatPhil> =g lpl -financial -league -lunar -gene -stock -coding
[10:44:18] <systemd> https://lpl.org - Liverpool Public Library: Home
[10:46:16] <FatPhil> =g lpl -financial -league -lunar -gene -stock -coding -liverpool
[10:46:16] <systemd> https://link.springer.com - LPL: A mathematical programming language | SpringerLink
[10:47:30] <FatPhil> SOrry for the noise, but neither DDG nor Google are responding to me currently.
[11:02:28] <inz> Did someone accidentally sterilize estonia's foreign uplink with viru valge instead of the proper kange stuff
[11:04:20] <inz> (a properly offtopic story from a friend of mine: he was on a business lunch in Tallinn, and wanted white wine, and ordered in finnish "valkoviiniä", you can guess what he got instead...)
[11:04:34] <FatPhil> very dry white wine
[11:05:02] <FatPhil> exceptionally dry, not one dot of fermentables left
[11:05:07] <inz> indeed so.
[11:11:20] <FatPhil> Still no blame game being played - but at least someone's started to lay out the data behind possibly the majority of all .ee cases: https://news.err.ee
[11:11:22] <systemd> ^ 03Timeline: How Saaremaa became the epicenter of Estonia's COVID-19 outbreak
[11:14:02] <FatPhil> OK, we're not as facepalmy as Womens Day marches, and huge religious meetings, and things that other countries have done. Part of the benefit of being a small country is that your biggest fuckups tend to be smaller.
[11:15:08] <inz> FatPhil, the numbers have bounced up like a volleyball
[11:15:39] <FatPhil> In Jan/Feb I was actually planning on moving to Saaremaa, hoping that the island would be more remote - I'm glad my g/f was slow to agree, so eventually we didn't!
[11:15:46] <FatPhil> They spiked!
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[12:58:52] <FatPhil> US is weird: https://www.zerohedge.com
[13:10:37] <Ingar> US fucked
[13:14:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, lockdowns *have to* end. you can't have 80-90% of your population sitting on their asses for several months. when they do you get a second wave. which will hit the us a lot less hard for so many of us already having had it.
[13:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> folks getting all worked up about infection rates that are below medical capacity don't get that everyone is going to get it in the next year or two no matter what we do.
[13:15:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> The US has a strong streak of anti-intellectualism. Which means a rejection of advice from people with domain-specific knowledge.
[13:16:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah blah blah
[13:16:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> I didn't leave my own property, but reports are that the local unofficial beach nearby was pretty crowded this weekend...because all the official beaches were closed.
[13:16:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> this ain't smallpox. you can't contain that shit over any meaningful timespan. can. not. be. done.
[13:21:04] <GrandFireWizard> Seen this?
[13:21:04] <GrandFireWizard> https://www.news.com.au
[13:21:05] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus numbers: Graph shows Australia becoming ‘rare’ virus example
[13:21:09] <gozar> It only has to be contained until testing can be widespread.
[13:21:19] <GrandFireWizard> until a vaccine is found
[13:21:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, test != cure
[13:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> and unless you plan on testing several times a day, it ain't gonna do shit.
[13:21:39] <Ingar> if there;s a test, you can quarantine the infected
[13:21:40] <GrandFireWizard> what's the bet they will stock up on ivermectim or similar and just smash it where it is found
[13:21:42] <Ingar> as opposed to everyone
[13:21:46] <gozar> Testing means you know who should be isolated and who shouldn't, so you don't have to quarantine everyone.
[13:21:55] <gozar> Exactly GrandFireWizard & Ingar.
[13:22:02] <gozar> :-)
[13:22:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause it's communicable near instantly as far as they can tell
[13:22:27] <GrandFireWizard> dose everyone?
[13:22:38] <gozar> AndyTheAbsurd summed it up above. People scream "fake news" at the experts instead of listening.
[13:22:40] <GrandFireWizard> Pick a day, and start *everyone* on a 5 day dose?
[13:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only two useful things lockdown does are: slows things temporarily so infrastructure can be built up to handle the load and give time to work on a vaccine
[13:22:41] <Ingar> I"m more interestet in anti body test though
[13:22:49] <Ingar> *interested in antibody tests
[13:22:50] <gozar> That's why we have the measles still hanging around.
[13:23:03] <GrandFireWizard> smallpox is ... nearly gone.. right
[13:23:09] <GrandFireWizard> TB?
[13:23:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> smallpox ain't as virulent and it don't sit dormant doing nothing except spreading for a week or more
[13:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you get smallpox you know it
[13:23:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto measles
[13:24:04] <GrandFireWizard> good points..
[13:24:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and testing multiple times a day ain't viable
[13:24:19] <GrandFireWizard> isn't viable.. or cost effective.. until it is
[13:24:35] <GrandFireWizard> if it's killing the population.. at what point do we just throw lots of money at it
[13:25:04] <GrandFireWizard> alternatively, let people flock to the beaches, and go out.. and let them die?
[13:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> we've already thrown over an entire year's worth of tax income at it, how much more do you think we can throw before the currency is toilet paper?
[13:25:34] <janrinok> so that's why people are hoarding it!
[13:25:36] <GrandFireWizard> it wasn't already?
[13:25:49] <GrandFireWizard> well, in German? world war 2? didn't they use money for wall paper?
[13:25:50] <Ingar> given US public debt, the currency already _is_ toilet paper
[13:26:02] <GrandFireWizard> “Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.”
[13:26:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> GrandFireWizard, that's going to happen if a vaccine isn't around in the next month or three.
[13:26:27] <GrandFireWizard> I put my money behind everyone being dosed with drugs they know will kill it
[13:26:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, that'd be a valid argument if it didn't trade so well. but it does, so it isn't.
[13:26:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> GrandFireWizard: I know a Heinlein quote when I see one!
[13:26:56] <GrandFireWizard> Good to have handy ...
[13:27:40] <Ingar> TheMightyBuzzard: I don't see issues in trading toilet paper for toilet paper (most currencies are toilet paper)
[13:27:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> touche =P
[13:28:03] <GrandFireWizard> at this rate TP will be the new currency...
[13:28:52] * TheMightyBuzzard still wants to see cheeto jesus use that "i can tell folks what to do" act to make the Times produce TP instead of printing on it
[13:29:22] <GrandFireWizard> okay, now that might make sense.. the News printed on TP...
[13:29:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...you guys know that most newsprint used in the US comes from Canada, right?
[13:29:42] * AndyTheAbsurd mutters something about "fucking $200 a roll tariffs"
[13:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah. all they got is trees and bears and mooses and beer and ice
[13:30:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a bad way to live if you don't mind the cold but i can't stand that shat.
[13:31:09] <FatPhil> That used to be Finland and Estonia too - but thanks to you gretaphobes we haven't had a winter in years!
[13:31:14] <GrandFireWizard> nice if you like skiing
[13:31:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah...one of the best things about where I live is that I've been here for 17 years and there's been an average of one day of frost per year that I've lived here.
[13:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, you're welcome
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[13:48:19] <inz> Do virii survive in the vacuum of space
[13:51:18] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:52:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd think they're lot more likely to than bacteria since they don't have any vital functions to speak of but i dunno. space ain't very forgiving to anything.
[14:01:55] <FatPhil> inz: ultraviolet blasts them apart, so outside the atmosphere they denature quicker.
[14:02:03] <carny> some virii can survive for decades if you freeze dry them and keep them in a sealed vial
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[14:02:44] <FatPhil> TMV can basically last forever in crystaline form, can't it?
[14:02:55] <FatPhil> s/V/B/
[14:03:04] * FatPhil laughs at his own joke
[14:03:57] * TheMightyBuzzard doesn't have a crystalline form unless frozen. his natural state is relatively squishy.
[14:05:10] <GrandFireWizard> I'm not sure I believe that.
[14:05:13] <GrandFireWizard> Can we test it?
[14:05:18] <GrandFireWizard> I'll get the liquid nitrogen....
[14:05:54] <FatPhil> planning on shattering expectations?
[14:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe later, it's nap time now. felt the need to watch pulp fiction last night and forgot how long it was, so only 3h of sleep.
[14:07:14] <GrandFireWizard> no doubt he'll give a frosty welcome to future guests
[14:07:28] * TheMightyBuzzard gives GrandFireWizard the cold shoulder
[14:08:32] <GrandFireWizard> Finally, after all these decades, he will be cool
[14:09:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Anybody know, off the top of their head, how to use sed/awk/whatever to truncate lines longer a certain number of characters (say 120 as an example)?
[14:10:20] <GrandFireWizard> no, I'd use cut...
[14:10:25] <FatPhil> cut -c
[14:11:00] * GrandFireWizard high five's FatPhil
[14:12:04] <FatPhil> e.g. ls | cut -c -10
[14:14:33] <GrandFireWizard> cat filename | cut -c 1,-120
[14:18:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> Interesting. The Linux and MacOS (so I'm assuming BSD?) versions of cut have completely different descriptions of what -c does.
[14:19:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> MacOS: -c list: the list specifies character positions.
[14:19:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> Linux: -c, --characters=LIST: select only these characters.
[14:39:49] <FatPhil> inz: congratulions on your resurrection! Finland 2,176 +249 27 -1
[14:42:59] <FatPhil> BSD's is way more sensible. I posted the -c without thinking, and then went off to check the manpage (linux) and it confused me, making me think I'd said the wrong thing!
[14:45:51] <FatPhil> finally, a celeb with a message of hope for all (apart from mormons and muslims): https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[14:45:54] <systemd> ^ 03Noel Gallagher has stockpiled on alcohol amid coronavirus lockdown
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[18:22:56] <Bytram> antibody testing only shows if you have been infected, AND for the body to create antibodies in sufficient numbers so that they can be detected with a high degree of confidence. Beware false negatives (and false positives, too)
[18:24:09] <Bytram> Example: Get tested for AIDS. Clean. Have sex with someone who is infected (and get infection) and 1 hour later get tested... will show "clean" even though one is infected.
[18:24:39] <Bytram> gtg, warm, sunny (well, and windy) day. Have errands to run. Out for a few hours.
[18:31:27] <carny> too bad respirators are worth more than gold right now
[18:31:42] <carny> pollen season is a great time to go out and about for fresh air
[18:31:50] <carny> if you can filter it ;]
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[20:26:14] <chromas> http://radio.garden
[20:26:14] <systemd> ^ 03Radio Garden
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