#soylent | Logs for 2020-07-25
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[00:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Legal Risks of Adversarial Machine Learning Research - https://sylnt.us - playing-devil's-advocate
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[03:17:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Delays "7nm" Products by 6 Months - https://sylnt.us - how-the-mighty-has-fallen-behind
[03:50:03] <AzumaHazuki> ye gods...smells like someone ran over a skunk outside @_@
[03:50:24] <AzumaHazuki> the pure platonic essence of burning rubber, with a little expired garlic mayo for that certain je ne sais quoi
[03:50:25] <chromas> It was me.
[03:50:57] <AzumaHazuki> what have i told you about eating broccoli after 3 PM?!
[03:51:19] <chromas> Use extra cheese?
[03:53:48] <AzumaHazuki> good, you remembered :v
[03:59:45] <chromas> cheese++
[03:59:45] <Bender> karma - cheese: 21
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[05:36:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Vigilante is Sabotaging the Emotet Botnet by Replacing Malware Payloads with GIFs - https://sylnt.us - playing-with-fire
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[07:18:03] <FatPhil> sounds like some of the craft beers I've tasted.
[07:28:09] <chromas> GIF beer
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[07:55:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nobel Prize Banquet Cancelled Over Coronavirus - https://sylnt.us - no-word-on-the-ignobel-awards-yet
[08:20:34] <chromas> ari's getting on a roll with those subs
[08:21:03] <chromas> Would be cool if he could submit something topical
[09:57:29] <FatPhil> Has this been subbed yet? https://nerdist.com
[09:57:29] <systemd> ^ 03Inventor Builds Functioning Haircutting Robot - Nerdist
[09:57:30] <exec> └─ 13Inventor Builds Functioning Haircutting Robot - Nerdist
[09:57:53] <FatPhil> been away for a few days, so not been following things closely
[09:59:04] <chromas> I don't see it in muh feed
[10:09:22] <FatPhil> =submit https://nerdist.com
[10:09:23] <exec> └─ 13Inventor Builds Functioning Haircutting Robot - Nerdist
[10:09:24] <systemd> Submitting "Inventor Builds Functioning Haircutting Robot - Nerdist"...( 1 modified urls; https://nerdist.com )
[10:09:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Inventor Builds Functioning Haircutting Robot - Nerdist" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:10:22] <FatPhil> How about this: https://phys.org
[10:10:23] <systemd> ^ 03Runaway star might explain black hole's disappearing act
[10:10:23] <exec> └─ 13Runaway star might explain black hole's disappearing act
[10:10:36] <FatPhil> runaway should sub that!
[10:14:21] <chromas> /nick Runaway
[10:17:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Will Use Authenticated Logos to Reduce Gmail Phishing - https://sylnt.us - how-is-your-dmarc-coming?
[12:22:07] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:22:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5324
[12:22:27] <Bytram> =grope TheMightyBuzzard
[12:22:27] * systemd ironically tosses a FAT12 volume of HDDs to TheMightyBuzzard
[12:23:20] <Bytram> How's things going? Construction proceeding okay?
[12:24:22] <Bytram> Hmm... FAT12? ISTR that was back around DOS 3.1 or so.
[12:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gparted Bytram
[12:24:48] * systemd sneakily snatches a container of earwax from Bytram
[12:25:20] <Bytram> Aha! I can hear you now!
[12:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, hands are too cramped up from doing too much atypical work up there recently to get much of any normal work done
[12:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> so ima work on the mower today since it's a more immediately pressing issue anyway
[12:26:54] <Bytram> I hear you! My forearms are in dire need of a deep-tissue massage -- it should not hurt to *type*
[12:27:30] <Bytram> !uid
[12:27:31] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 11910, owned by TGBAvHPhj
[12:27:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can still type for a bit but mixing hydraulic cement for hours is right out
[12:28:19] <Bytram> That nick just rolls off the tongue
[12:28:34] <Bytram> what do you need the cement for?
[12:28:57] <Bytram> redoing the basement floor?
[12:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, cinder blocks are set 3/4" back from the floor level of the slab while still being on the footing which is lower. makes for a nice, if very slow, water channel.
[12:30:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> just enough to wet the bottoms of the blocks and allow it to wick up the faces
[12:31:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> so hydraulic cement in the gap and over the face of the bottom block.
[12:31:59] <Bytram> capillaryaction--
[12:31:59] <Bender> karma - capillaryaction: -1
[12:32:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hydraulic cement that from the time water hits it you have ~5 minutes to mix and finish applying it
[12:34:14] <Bytram> Ugh! Can you do it in two passes? One to fill the channel, and the 2nd to do the vertical face?
[12:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> so lots of mixing small batches with no ability to slow up while there's any wet cement.
[12:35:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh the time ain't an issue, just an annoyance. just means you mix very small batches and hurry.
[12:35:08] <Bytram> nod nod -- PITA
[12:35:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> and also that you have to do it by hand
[12:36:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> the by hand part is what hurts. once you start mixing the cement, you can't stop or even slow up because of a hand cramp.
[12:36:38] <Bytram> what you need is a helping hand from Tim the toolman Taylor -- I'm sure he could whip up a Binford 3000 somethingorother that would be something to see in action!
[12:37:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> pushing through the pain is not a good thing with RSI
[12:38:06] <Bytram> hand cramps suck -- been there done that -- especially when trying to deal with small tools and parts when trying to adjust size of watch bands
[12:38:15] <Bytram> tru dat!
[12:45:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mundane Behavioral Decisions, Actions Can be 'Misremembered' as Done - https://sylnt.us - repetition
[12:45:23] <GrandFireWizard> can the cement by rolling continuously to keep it from setting?
[12:45:42] <GrandFireWizard> >> be rolled around in a barrel <<
[12:49:06] <Bytram> If I'm not mistaken, it's a chemical reaction (and for some reason I want to say exothermic, but have no way to support that). Like adding vinegar to baking soda... once started, it's just gonna keep going.
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[12:59:36] <GrandFireWizard> so whack it on fast and hope for the best
[12:59:40] <GrandFireWizard> =gday AzumaHazuki
[12:59:40] * systemd mistakenly cracks open a spool of Windows updates for AzumaHazuki
[12:59:54] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[13:00:12] <GrandFireWizard> I know, terrible isn't it
[13:00:17] * AzumaHazuki stares blankly at the Windows updates, wonders how to write an ebuild for them
[13:00:20] <GrandFireWizard> to hit an innocent with windows updates
[13:01:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> GrandFireWizard, not this stuff. nothing you can do will keep it from setting up in 5-10m except adding more water, and that only gains you a couple extra minutes.
[13:01:04] <GrandFireWizard> e-Builder offers industry-specific construction management software that enables capital projects owners to increase efficiency and save money.
[13:01:30] <GrandFireWizard> good to know
[13:03:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i mix the stuff about as thick as a lousy milkshake and think it's way too soupy while i'm halfway through mixing it but fast forward thirty seconds to when it's mixed and it's the consistency of warm butter and just fine for working
[13:04:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, shouldn't be hard. just gotta make wine a prerequisite.
[13:04:45] <GrandFireWizard> There's an article I read about a guy that had ultra fine concrete done.. which has a specific consistency for grinding afterwards.. and then watched the contractors add too much water just to make it easier to spread. Which wreck it, and it had to be done again. It's a fine art, concreting.
[13:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> not the way i do it
[13:05:07] <GrandFireWizard> what's an ebuild AzumaHazuki ?
[13:05:19] <AzumaHazuki> Gentoo package script
[13:05:48] <AzumaHazuki> Gentoo downloads and compiles source code instead of fetching packages. it takes ages but it's very controllable
[13:06:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> my work would get anyone doing it for a living fired but it's not like it won't be covered up
[13:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're not talking big, errant globs but i don't screw around floating it until all the tool marks are smooth.
[13:09:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, it's really fucking fast if you throw 24 threads, a 4th gen m.2 drive, and lots of ram at it
[13:10:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> like sickeningly, why the hell did i wait so long fast
[13:10:29] <AzumaHazuki> i do have a ryzen 3700U in the lappy here :3 and 32GiB of memory, which helps immensely since /var/tmp/portage can go in tmpfs
[13:10:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:11:27] <Bytram> break time; laters taters!
[13:11:34] * TheMightyBuzzard wabes
[13:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to have mine set up with portage's tmp dir in ram but something or other actually ran it out of space a few years ago. might be okay to switch back now though.
[13:22:04] <GrandFireWizard> finding a laptop with 16GB ram is hard these days.. let alone 32GB...
[13:22:22] <GrandFireWizard> it's like they expect everyone to only need 8GB of ram..
[13:24:09] * FatPhil asserts frugal dominance with his 2G
[13:24:38] <FatPhil> Firefox makes it weep.
[13:27:38] <GrandFireWizard> 2G networks are still active?
[13:27:51] <GrandFireWizard> didn't they tear them down to make way for 3.5g?
[13:28:13] <AzumaHazuki> i'm a weird case in that i can function in 2GiB if necessary...just not in Gentoo. Artix or Void work nicely on low-ram machines
[13:28:38] <GrandFireWizard> I thought the same until I started using linux in anger as my desktop
[13:29:04] <GrandFireWizard> mozilla is still screwing around with urlbar changes
[13:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, you could get by okay with calculate. basically gentoo with a binhost from the start. you'd lose most of the gentooy goodness if you were stuck with 2G of ram and didn't want to leave your shat compiling overnight every night.
[13:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean who doesn't change the USE flags on at least a couple packages?
[13:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[13:36:00] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 783
[13:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> just switched load balancer dns entry. any problems should clear up with a page reload.
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[15:06:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World's Smallest Imaging Device Can 3D-Scan Inside Your Blood Vessels - https://sylnt.us - picture-this
[16:34:29] <RandomFactor> https://mobile.twitter.com
[16:34:30] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[16:34:32] <exec> └─ 13Twitter
[16:36:03] <RandomFactor> https://pbs.twimg.com
[16:36:38] <chromas> what a bunch of retards
[16:37:21] <chromas> They probably think rich people swim around in their net worth like Scrooge McDuck
[16:38:02] <RandomFactor> poseur or poser?
[16:38:54] <RandomFactor> https://www.merriam-webster.com
[16:38:55] <systemd> ^ 03Is It 'Poser' or 'Poseur'?
[16:38:55] <exec> └─ 13Is It 'Poser' or 'Poseur'? | Merriam-Webster
[16:40:05] <RandomFactor> so they're both a thing
[16:43:35] <RandomFactor> https://gab.com
[16:55:00] <FatPhil> n.e. slow cooked wild bear
[16:56:25] <RandomFactor> Didn't polar bear meat kill a bunch of polar explorers (trichnosis) because they couldn't get it hot enough?
[16:57:42] <chromas> It either kills you completely or doesn't affect you at all. It's very, um...I'll think of the word
[16:57:57] <RandomFactor> Binary?
[16:59:01] <chromas> true
[17:01:42] <carny> =submit build-your-own-router-or-suffer dept. https://arstechnica.com
[17:01:43] <exec> └─ 13Hackers actively exploit high-severity networking vulnerabilities | Ars Technica
[17:01:43] <FatPhil> polar bear accumulated mercury, I think.
[17:01:45] <systemd> Submitting "Hackers actively exploit high-severity networking vulnerabilities"...
[17:02:02] <FatPhil> but this is locally hunted bear from the baltics
[17:02:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hackers Actively Exploit High-severity Networking Vulnerabilities" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:04:50] <carny> i keep forgetting that stories like that need to be tagged as breaking or urgent somehow
[17:05:51] <carny> the headline should also mention f5 not just 'Networking Vulnerabilities'
[17:06:01] <carny> contributor fail
[17:07:43] <chromas> F5 to reload
[17:15:56] <FatPhil> vivat!!
[17:16:38] <FatPhil> now having a lords' feast at the local medieval restaurant to celebrate our anniversary.
[17:17:03] <FatPhil> the gluttony is starting to become a strugle!
[17:27:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court - https://sylnt.us - UPC-seal-of-approval
[18:37:06] <FatPhil> RIP Peter Green. n.p. https://www.youtube.com
[18:37:07] <systemd> ^ 03Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac - "Oh Well", Live@ Music Mash 1969
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[19:47:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crown-of-Thorns Starfish 'Cockroach of the Ocean' and Much More Resilient Than Previously Thought - https://sylnt.us
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[22:06:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Actively Exploit High-Severity Networking Vulnerabilities - https://sylnt.us - keep-up-with-your-patches
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[22:52:11] <AzumaHazuki> APK seems to be back again
[22:52:26] <AzumaHazuki> since he's posting the exact same message every post, can we Spam mod all of them?
[22:56:43] <FatPhil> I just did so for a batch
[23:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, yes
[23:02:54] <AzumaHazuki> muwahaha...aaahahahaha...aaaaaAAAAHAHAHAHAAaaa~! *cough*
[23:03:01] <AzumaHazuki> er...yes
[23:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> have fun doing so even. ima go cook dinner or i'd keep score for you.
[23:04:08] * AzumaHazuki is seeing if she can get trinity desktop going using their official overlay. tde/kde3.x is lightweight by modern standards so...
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[23:25:08] <driveby> https://www.pnas.org
[23:25:11] <systemd> ^ 03News Feature: Avoiding pitfalls in the pursuit of a COVID-19 vaccine
[23:25:49] <driveby> https://nonvenipacem.com
[23:25:50] <systemd> ^ 03Would you be surprised to learn that coronavirus vaccines have a tendency to kill the patient?
[23:25:51] <exec> └─ 13Would you be surprised to learn that coronavirus vaccines have a tendency to kill the patient? – non veni pacem
[23:26:09] <driveby> oops :)
[23:26:38] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
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