#soylent | Logs for 2020-11-08
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[00:07:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GitHub's Source Code Was Leaked on GitHub Last Night... Sort of - https://sylnt.us - things-are-not-always-what-they-seem
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[04:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Playing Detective on a Galactic Scale: Huge New Dataset Will Solve Multiple Milky Way Mysteries - https://sylnt.us - stars-in-their-eyes
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[05:14:53] <SoyCow8936> Mexicans are so dumb.
[05:15:09] <SoyCow8936> They're even dumber than I am, and that's a pretty low bar
[05:15:38] <SoyCow8936> Oh god dammit I lost my Ip mask that was Joo.z
[05:16:06] <SoyCow8936> ya gotta admit, that mask was pretty awesome.
[05:16:43] <SoyCow8936> I'm so fucking pissed off that I could smoke a bowl of pot now.
[05:17:18] <SoyCow8936> YAAAARRRRRRGH
[05:20:15] <SoyCow8936> ya gotta admit that my IP mask that was joo.z was pretty awesome though
[05:20:41] <SoyCow8936> so awesome that I'm gonna search the logs for it, niggers!
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[05:38:37] <soycow9642> =yt AUmMUmLYT1Y
[05:38:38] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Paula White Leading Prayer Service For Trump's reelection (01:19; 367,356 views; 👍955 👎4,594)
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[09:27:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - On the Way to Universal Recognition of Let's Encrypt Root Certiifcate - https://sylnt.us
[10:20:02] <FatPhil> Do we have any awake americans, or speakers of international English? I have a language use question.
[11:48:27] <Bytram> FatPhil: For a few minutes, yes. Whacha got?
[12:19:59] <soycow9642> https://www.axios.com
[12:19:59] <systemd> ^ 03Scoop: Biden announcing COVID task force on Monday
[13:00:18] <soycow9642> https://www.axios.com
[13:00:19] <systemd> ^ 03Counties with giant coronavirus caseloads went for Trump
[13:07:32] <Bytram> =yt Gomer Pyle Surprise Surprise Surprise
[13:07:33] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Surprise-Surprise-Surprise.flv (06; 433,705 views; 👍757 👎45)
[13:50:35] <FatPhil> do Americans say "fuck if I know" or "fucked if I know", and if both, in what kind of proportions, and has it changed over time.
[13:57:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Usually "fuck" rather than "fucked" as far as I know... but the US is not a monoculture so it may different away from the place I've lived.
[14:06:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United States Seizes Domain Names Used by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps - https://sylnt.us
[14:15:00] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: are you prepared to autodoxx your region?
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[14:15:40] <FatPhil> I'm slowly writing the top part of this page, but the inspiration is kept at the bottom: http://fatphil.org
[14:15:41] <systemd> ^ 03Losing Your 'Ed
[14:19:18] <janrinok> FatPhil, I've only ever heard 'fucked' - until I saw your earlier comment I didn't realise anyone said it differently.
[14:20:16] <FatPhil> janrinok: yeah, I was completely taken aback by him being confused about my usage.
[14:20:43] <FatPhil> But soon the pieces fell into place, it's part of a bigger pattern of language change.
[14:22:12] <FatPhil> In the "fucked" case, it's not absolutely what a gramatically well-formed phrase would be such that ellision would end up with "fucked if I know", but it's clear that it's supposed to be like a sentence but with some words missing.
[14:22:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a colloquialism, they're immune from grammar
[14:22:55] <FatPhil> presumable "I would be fucked if ...", which does provide the grammar, but not sensible semantics.
[14:23:21] <FatPhil> an idiom
[14:23:56] * TheMightyBuzzard prefers fresh out of give-a-shit
[14:24:30] <FatPhil> there are other phrases where yuo just go straight into the participle: "damned if you do, ..."
[14:24:37] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, they don't mean the same thing to me
[14:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, nope, i just prefer saying it
[14:24:57] <janrinok> lol
[14:24:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> is more fun
[14:28:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> the -ed being dropped doesn't change the meaning though. it just changes it from future continuous to imperative. i.e. dictates who is to do the fucking.
[14:28:23] <janrinok> FatPhil, another that always confuses me ' I couldn't care less' when some people say 'I could care less' - they have completely the opposite meaning.
[14:28:24] <FatPhil> I still use "so damned [adjective]" rather than "so damn [adjective]"
[14:28:45] <FatPhil> janrinok: that's because they are melotrons
[14:28:54] <FatPhil> they just play back tapes
[14:29:05] * janrinok goes away to look that up...
[14:29:15] <FatPhil> they don't understand the meanings of the words they are saying.
[14:29:32] <FatPhil> old "synthesiser" based on playing back tapes
[14:29:42] <janrinok> found it!
[14:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's a tape?
[14:29:55] <janrinok> lol
[14:31:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder how many *nix admins have no idea about what 'tar' really is
[14:32:24] <janrinok> very few nowadays I'd imagine, but places such as NASA etc still have loads of data that is awaiting conversion to a more modern digital format
[14:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, just dropping by to check in between coffee and church work. enjoy the expat grammar.
[14:33:00] <janrinok> have a good one!
[14:41:11] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: it's like an 8-track but with only 4 tracks.
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[17:24:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: Sorry, was AFK - regions I've lived in are NY's Capitol District, Boston metro area, and Tampa metro area.
[17:36:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - On the Way to Universal Recognition of Let's Encrypt Root Certificate - https://sylnt.us
[17:42:32] <Bytram> FatPhil: From my perspective, the sound of the "ed" in "Damned if I know" is often, umm, "weak" and to someone who has not seen it spelled out, could assume it was "Damn if I know." Perhaps ascribing it to something like "Damn [me] if I know" rather than "[I'll be] damned if I know" (The latter is my vote for the correct usage.)
[18:19:44] <Bytram> .
[18:20:18] * Bytram is speechless: https://arstechnica.com
[18:20:56] <Bytram> Oh, bots ignore those. Try again: https://arstechnica.com
[18:20:57] <systemd> ^ 03Alex Trebek, 1940-2020
[18:20:59] <FatPhil> I shall continue to gather examples that share or differ on various properties.
[18:21:24] <Bytram> FatPhil: how's the leg doing?
[18:22:21] <Bytram> Better, I hope.
[18:26:18] <FatPhil> Has been for at least a month, thanks for asking. I still wear boots around town, as with all the cobbles I'm a bit paranoid still.
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[18:37:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Cyber Command Exposes New Russian Malware - https://sylnt.us
[18:43:34] <Runaway1956> Wait a minut - Bytram is speechless, but he "spoke" to FatPhil? Must have paid for one of those brain stents?
[18:44:16] <FatPhil> it wears off after a few seconds
[18:44:28] <Bytram> writing !== speech
[18:44:32] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh kk
[18:44:45] <Bytram> Gesungheit!
[18:46:35] <FatPhil> Buuuuuugs, bloody buuuuuugs!
[18:47:37] <FatPhil> n.p. https://www.youtube.com
[18:47:40] <systemd> ^ 03Sepultura - Roots Bloody Roots [OFFICIAL VIDEO]
[21:36:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A New and Improved Burger Robot’s on the Market—and Everyone Wants One - https://sylnt.us - flipping-heck
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[23:02:50] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[23:02:52] <systemd> Submitting "You Can Now Pay $125,000 A Ticket For An Underwater Expedition To The Titanic"...
[23:03:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03You Can Now Pay $125,000 a Ticket for an Underwater Expedition to the Titanic" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:04:29] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.bloomberg.com
[23:04:29] <systemd> FatPhil, 04submit failed: Bloomberg is racist against robots!
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