#soylent | Logs for 2021-01-08

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[00:42:00] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[00:42:00] <systemd> ^ 03US registering highest deaths yet from the coronavirus
[00:42:47] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[00:42:48] <systemd> Submitting "Neil Sheehan, Pentagon Papers reporter, Vietnam author, dies"...
[00:43:10] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Neil Sheehan, Pentagon Papers Reporter, Vietnam Author, Dies" (27 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[00:52:19] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[00:52:20] <systemd> Submitting "London's field hospital to be used amid acute COVID pressure"...
[00:52:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03London's Field Hospital to be Used Amid Acute COVID Pressure" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:56:30] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[00:56:31] <systemd> Submitting "'What else could I do?' NJ Rep. Kim helps clean up Capitol"...
[00:56:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'What Else Could I Do?' NJ Rep. Kim Helps Clean Up Capitol" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Journal Article Reviews Century of Data Showing COVID-19 Likely to Impact the Brain - https://sylnt.us
[01:18:46] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[01:18:47] <systemd> ^ 03More demand Illinois congresswoman who cited Hitler resign
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[02:23:09] <c0lo> breaking https://www.abc.net.au
[02:23:10] <systemd> ^ 03Donald Trump 'outraged' by 'violence, lawlessness and mayhem' of US Capitol riots - ABC News
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[02:42:16] <chromas> I like how they mix scare quotes and regular quotes
[03:01:48] <chromas> seems like the internet's jacking off here. amazon and ms sites are borked. anyone else?
[03:05:43] <chromas> steam too
[03:09:05] <requerdanos> Trump Plants Seeds, Works Field Tirelessly, 'Outraged' When Crops Grow
[03:09:05] <c0lo> Seems normal downunder.
[03:11:25] <c0lo> At no moment during the speech he conceded. Just 'transitioning to a new administration', 'you disappointed but now heal thyself','we're just beginning'.
[03:36:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Biden Transition Team Names White House Tech Officials - https://sylnt.us
[04:07:43] <Subsentient> Do you feel that, SN?
[04:07:47] <Subsentient> The peace, washing over you?
[04:07:54] <Subsentient> The game is finally over.
[04:08:00] <Subsentient> Even Fox is calling out Trumpy Wumpy.
[04:08:27] <Subsentient> I consider myself moderate, but I can tell you that I've always hated this president.
[04:08:50] <Subsentient> I had secretly hoped he'd show the world who he really is before he left office.
[04:08:54] <Subsentient> Sometimes, hopes come true.
[04:09:11] <Subsentient> Just wish it could have been done without 4 people dying.
[04:09:50] <Subsentient> Republican politics will not be taken seriously for a decade. It's over. Trump has shit in the pantaloons of the party, and all of America can smell it.
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[04:36:54] <c0lo> subsentient, even the twitter #MAGA and variations started to cool down. if you want to find delusionals, diehard trumpers are still clinging on https://twitter.com
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[05:03:25] <pinchy> space needle go boom 2021
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[05:46:49] <Runaway1956> Subsentient - a nitpik
[05:46:56] <Runaway1956> "four people dying"
[05:47:12] <Runaway1956> I see one person shot, and three people died "of natural causes"
[05:47:20] <Runaway1956> I want to know more about those other three
[05:47:31] <Runaway1956> Someone inflating numbers, is what I think at this point
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[06:06:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Main Bioactive Compound of Ginger Root May Protect Against Autoimmune Disease Progression - https://sylnt.us
[06:07:18] <AzumaHazuki> ooooh, excellent. i cook with ginger lots and make tea with it
[06:09:15] <aristarchus_> shut up, Runaway, you are an ignorant moron.
[06:10:22] <aristarchus_> Runaway is now a complicit cop-killer. Hope it works out for him.
[06:10:49] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, is he blathering? i think i have him on /ignore in irssi
[06:11:27] <aristarchus_> "Where we go 1, we get shot, or at least one of us"
[06:12:19] <AzumaHazuki> he has a point, the pigs like to pick off individuals rather than fire into a group
[06:12:28] <AzumaHazuki> especially if the individual is darker them a soy latte
[06:14:06] <aristarchus_> One riot, One Ranger. Runaway is close enough to Texas to understand that. Putting down the first person through the window secured the chamber. Justified use of force. Not like an incel running over innocent people with his Dodge Charger.
[06:14:28] <AzumaHazuki> terminal switch, brb
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[06:16:25] <Subsentient> aristarchus_, "Where we go one, we get shot" 4aaaahahahahahahaha
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[06:18:47] <aristarchus_> My condolences to her family, but perhaps if you had saved her from the crazy, . . .
[06:19:58] <Subsentient> Yeah, the right has seriously fallen prey to outright lies and propaganda the last few years. There's millions like her, now.
[06:20:29] <AzumaHazuki> i've ben saying this for years and i keep getting yelled at
[06:20:37] <AzumaHazuki> Cassandra^W Marissa strikes again!
[06:20:42] <Subsentient> I remember 'facts don't care about your feelings', how the turns have tabled.
[06:20:45] * AzumaHazuki is getting really fucking sick of being right about these things
[06:21:44] <AzumaHazuki> hopefully this is the wakeup call the country needs to clean house. 70 million people have become Runaways
[06:21:58] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki, we're both cynical, and reality has a cynical bias.
[06:23:18] <AzumaHazuki> christ, what a mess
[06:24:06] <AzumaHazuki> i don't see any consequences for this either, because large chunks of the government and law enforcement ARE this type of person
[06:25:19] <Subsentient> OANN is the worst that's semi-mainstream now. So many outright lies. I've actually tried to verify their more inflammatory stories, there's always something wrong with them. Sometimes there's a kernel of truth but usually it's misleading at best.
[06:25:43] <AzumaHazuki> https://twitter.com and here we have a MAGAt saying the quiet part loud
[06:25:58] <AzumaHazuki> 70 million of these motherfuckers
[06:26:46] * Subsentient is waiting for the world to be cleansed with atomic fire, ending humanity's suffering
[06:26:53] * c0lo suggests AzumaHazuki to start being left about these things and see if there's an improvement
[06:27:22] <aristarchus_> Well, Runaway wants to know how the "protesters" that were not shot died: Seem like they assploded! Careful with the old BP, Runaway! Could happen to you!
[06:27:31] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo, the truth is, by the standards of the civilized world i'm a centrist. i will never be a communist or socialist because those systems simply do not scale beyond Dunbar's Number
[06:27:53] <AzumaHazuki> what i'm for is smart capitalism, that realizes that people and the environment come before money and that we have to make sure everything we do is sustainable
[06:28:32] * c0lo asking AzumaHazuki for citations about "doesn't work over Dunbar's Number"
[06:29:09] * c0lo or a rigorous demo if she's able
[06:29:22] <AzumaHazuki> i don't even think anyone's done a paper on this yet
[06:29:54] <AzumaHazuki> but any system that disregards human nature to a fundamental extent is doomed to failure. we should channel human nature instead
[06:30:24] <aristarchus_> But you underestimate the plasticity of the human race? Pinkers "Angels of Our Better Nature" is a good read. We tend not to stab each other at dinner so often, and the improvement cannot be attributed soley to sporks.
[06:30:38] * c0lo sees AzumaHazuki expressing a matter of belief. She's entitled to it, but she should be clearer.
[06:30:47] <AzumaHazuki> Pinker is full of shit. our capacity for violence has NOT decreased, we've outsourced it to the "third world"
[06:32:24] * c0lo channel human nature... laaarrgeee griiin
[06:32:25] <aristarchus_> Well yes, he is, but the stats he relies on are pretty sound. And still argue against your pessimism?
[06:34:00] <AzumaHazuki> things have definitely improved. but any civilization is 3 missed meals away from collapse
[06:34:12] <c0lo> "We tend not to stab each other at dinner" survivability increased. And so did the cost of health care.
[06:34:12] <Subsentient> Well, I've just accepted that humanity is despicable and that the world is better off destroyed. Half the people I know admit to only being alive to prevent the suffering of their families after they're gone. If the world is vaporized, that problem ceases to be.
[06:34:12] <Subsentient> 🎉
[06:34:25] <AzumaHazuki> and we've been neglecting infrastructure and letting evil build up for 40+ years. Reagan sent us down the wrong leg of the trousers of time
[06:34:54] <AzumaHazuki> "Run $COMMON_GOOD like a business" is a Satanic chant, more or less
[06:35:15] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: That's an insult to Satanism
[06:36:11] <AzumaHazuki> well, you know what i mean
[06:36:21] <AzumaHazuki> and yes, I know Satanism is a bunch of atheists trolling Christians
[06:36:23] <aristarchus_> Poor Satan, poor Runaway!
[06:38:53] * c0lo thinks subsentient hasn't been good enough to die so fast in an atomic fire. Increased CO2 and global temperature may be good enough for him
[06:39:28] <Subsentient> I'm a member of TST for that reason, and also because I happen to deeply agree with their tenets. I've often thought about running for office, and in my acceptance speech saying "I'd like to thank the Dark Lord for making this possible"
[06:39:50] <Subsentient> c0lo: Oh cmon, what did I do?
[06:40:02] <AzumaHazuki> er...Satanists emulate some myth of Satan rather than worship him though. They don't believe he's real
[06:40:34] <c0lo> subsentient, clearly you didn't do enough.
[06:40:35] <Subsentient> Depends on your perspective. Yeah, we don't believe in a supernatural Satan, but the figure of Satan has real philosophical relevance and meaning.
[06:41:18] <AzumaHazuki> Satan is (was) Yahweh "prosecuting attorney." You may be thinking of Lucifer, who's a) a different myth and b) actually a reference to nebuchadnezzar in Danial
[06:41:33] <Subsentient> I believe Christianity is morally bankrupt and reprehensible. The thing that really made me pull the trigger on joining a year or so ago however, was thinking about "Christ forgives you!", and I disagree with that. Nobody has the right to forgive you except the person you hurt, period.
[06:41:55] <Subsentient> Yeah, but almost everyone conflates the two
[06:42:25] <Subsentient> For me a big part of it is about accountability
[06:42:35] <Subsentient> There's no way to wash off your sins. So don't hurt people.
[06:43:30] <Subsentient> I've seen way, way too many Christians who will do whatever "because Christ will forgive me". Yeah, right. But I won't.
[06:43:46] <AzumaHazuki> indeed
[06:43:57] <Subsentient> Bumper sticker "Only god can judge me!" NEWP, I'm judging you right now!
[06:43:57] <c0lo> Hurting people is not a sin. By your own assertion about, it just is.
[06:44:02] <AzumaHazuki> I've actually said something like that to people before, "God have mercy on you because I won't"
[06:44:13] <c0lo> (see "I've just accepted that humanity is despicable... etc")
[06:44:47] <Subsentient> c0lo: Simply because something exists or is natural does not make it desirable, good, or optimal.
[06:45:28] <Subsentient> Both A. Cruelty is bad and B. Humanity is cruel can be true, and it leads to C. Humanity is bad
[06:45:37] <c0lo> "desirable, good" are direct intellectual constructs
[06:46:01] <c0lo> optimal requires an objective function to be optimized.
[06:46:09] <Subsentient> c0lo: When you look at it from a purely dead perspective, yes, but from the perspective of conscious entities, there are clear objectives and aversions.
[06:46:11] <c0lo> Again, an intellectual construct
[06:46:35] <c0lo> Outside the intellect, the reality simply... is.
[06:47:14] <Subsentient> c0lo: I suppose you can say one of my core beliefs is that while reality may simply "be", "reality is inadequate".
[06:47:57] <c0lo> OK, subsentient, try to find a purpose for humanity. Something that's coherent with the laws of nature.
[06:48:08] <Subsentient> c0lo: there isn't one.
[06:48:55] <Subsentient> Simply because meaning must be created does not mean that meaning is not real. All living things have certain ambitions and characteristics, an aversion to pain, a desire for pleasure, usually a will to live.
[06:49:06] <c0lo> If there isn't one, why do you expect that "desirable, good, optimal" have a definition that appropritate for any human?
[06:49:19] <Subsentient> c0lo: Defined by the parameters above.
[06:50:41] <Subsentient> Therefore, that which reduces pain, increases pleasure, and prevents death will be "good" by the opinion of most living things.
[06:50:56] <AzumaHazuki> hah! https://pbs.twimg.com
[06:51:17] <c0lo> Well, one's pleasure is your pain. You can judge me 'til second coming of Lucifer, if our values are disjunct, there's no sin in one's pleasure (9and your pain)
[06:52:38] <c0lo> (I'm just pointing that you should *not* expect our human nature to flow in the same channels if the definition of channel is different between us)
[06:52:38] <Subsentient> c0lo: Yes, that is how an albeit very limited but nonetheless logically consistent set of core ethics naturally derive, it's pure math. From an objective point, your will and desires is not more important than that of others, therefore, utility should be optimized for the most good for the most people at the least expense.
[06:53:12] <Subsentient> c0lo: I'm sure there are organisms somewhere in the universe that thrive on suffering and hate joy, and for them, the ethical parameters are arguably inverted. It depends on the target.
[06:53:37] <c0lo> Why not optimize for the largest amount of biomass, no matter if human or not?
[06:53:55] <Subsentient> Because fungus lacks consciousness. :^P
[06:54:03] <c0lo> So what?
[06:54:48] <Subsentient> So, consciousness in this system is the attribute that gives something "weight" or relevance. If it's not conscious, it's considered "dead" from ethical standards, and therefore its welfare is irrelevant.
[06:55:18] <Subsentient> Cats, dogs, animals with a brain, yes, they probably have some amount of consciousness and their welfare should be considered
[06:55:30] <Subsentient> Fungus? No.
[07:00:01] <c0lo> Are you proposing the implicit purpose for the humanity's existance to be "vessels of conscience"?
[07:01:02] <c0lo> (are you aware that, if you were to kill all the fungus species on this planet you'll be likely dead with the whole humanity?)
[07:02:32] * c0lo offers a citation "Fungi can occur as yeasts, molds, or as a combination of both forms"
[07:04:53] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, for your pleasure https://i.kym-cdn.com
[07:08:00] <Subsentient> c0lo: I suppose the implicit purpose is the subjective benefit of life, including yourself, so yes, I suppose that makes sense. It seems to naturally derive. And yes, if you killed all fungus, it would be bad for humanity's welfare, therefore, you should not kill all fungus.
[07:09:12] <Subsentient> I've given this a lot of thought over the years.
[07:09:40] <c0lo> And you didn't get to a satisfactory end?
[07:09:57] <c0lo> (of the thinking?)
[07:10:57] <Subsentient> I eventually reached the principles I've laid out here, so I suppose for the most part, yes. The big thing remaining is effective equations to accurately calculate utility. I suspect perfect accuracy is totally impossible, however. Approximate values will usually be good enough I'd imagine.
[07:11:40] * c0lo see the "subjective benefit of life" as not good enough
[07:13:13] * c0lo therefore considers the "hasn't been good enough to die so fast in an atomic fire, increased CO2 and global temperature will do" sentence as adequate
[07:13:17] <Subsentient> c0lo: It is for me because it seems to naturally derive from logic. If your welfare matters to you, despite the nihility of purpose, and it is true that you are NOT more important than others despite what monkey brain says, then you should naturally care about the welfare of others equally. Nobody ever lives up to that, but it's the idea
[07:13:33] <AzumaHazuki> for the longest time i clung to religion because of a moral foundation. but looking closely at it, it's the exact same consequentialism without the ability to handle reality. all religion comes down to is "do what we say or bad things happen."
[07:14:35] * c0lo denies "the nihility of purpose"
[07:15:05] <Subsentient> I do think there's an objective baseline of ethics that naturally derives from logic. It's very unrestrictive for the most part and has hedonistic, utilitarian properties.
[07:15:53] <Subsentient> Fuck your brother? Sure. Eat drywall? Nobody cares. Lube yourself up in goat shit and squinch around the walmart bathroom floor? Go for it, might amuse people. Murder? No, now it's too far.
[07:16:11] <c0lo> Logic is an intellectual construct. Search a baseline of ethics that derives from the laws of objective reality.
[07:16:28] <Subsentient> c0lo: What do you think the universe is made of, if not math?
[07:17:00] <c0lo> Matter, energy, spacetime.
[07:17:10] <Subsentient> c0lo: And what do you think those things are made of?
[07:18:03] <AzumaHazuki> math is the map, not the territory
[07:18:08] <c0lo> Some of this stuff organized themselves to extract math from it. Otherwise, math doesn't exist as such.
[07:18:36] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, agreed
[07:18:37] <Subsentient> The unreasonable efficacy of math seems to suggest that reality can be entirely described through math
[07:19:05] <AzumaHazuki> maybe the part of reality we can access and surveil
[07:19:11] <AzumaHazuki> don't assume that's all of it
[07:19:24] <Subsentient> Perhaps, but then you're getting into metaphysics where nothing can be proven.
[07:20:23] <c0lo> The most optimal representation of reality it itself. If you want to *exactly* model it in other way, you'll have to spend more stuff than the reality itself.
[07:20:44] <c0lo> s/it itself/is itself/
[07:20:44] <SedBot> <c0lo> The most optimal representation of reality is itself. If you want to *exactly* model it in other way, you'll have to spend more stuff than the reality itself.
[07:20:44] <aristarchus_> Logic is not a construct, it is constitutive of reasoning.
[07:21:35] <c0lo> Is there more than pedantry in what you said, aristarchus_? ^^
[07:22:01] <Subsentient> I think there is. Logic is not a human invention. it naturally follows from math.
[07:22:24] <aristarchus_> You did not really understand the nihilism journal, did ya?
[07:22:48] <aristarchus_> Math follows from logic, not the other way around!
[07:22:56] <c0lo> If you postulate that "everything is math", Subsentient. But that will have to be an axiom.
[07:23:35] <Subsentient> c0lo: I do believe that, yes. And my ethical views are descended from that chain of reasoning, more or less.
[07:23:42] <c0lo> I'm postulating the energy, matter, spacetime as the basis of everything.
[07:24:09] <c0lo> Makes science easier.
[07:24:19] <Subsentient> Easier, but I would imagine not as complete.
[07:24:38] <Subsentient> https://www.cnn.com
[07:24:41] <c0lo> (you know, that stuff that can offer predictons that may be falsified)
[07:24:41] <systemd> ^ 03US Capitol Police confirm death of officer after pro-Trump riot
[07:24:45] <Subsentient> "Officer Sicknick"
[07:24:55] <Subsentient> I guess now he's Officer Deadnick
[07:24:59] * Subsentient hides
[07:25:04] <c0lo> Well, incompletness is a feature in my book.
[07:27:00] <c0lo> For your sin of "I do believe that, yes. And my ethical views are descended from that chain of reasoning, more or less.", the punishment is "slow death by living into a slowly warming Earth instead of an atomic fire
[07:27:22] <Subsentient> AzumaHazuki: https://i.imgur.com
[07:27:54] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:28:15] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[07:29:12] <c0lo> Heh, I skipped 2 for quite a long time.
[07:30:17] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:30:52] <c0lo> https://cdn.dribbble.com
[07:31:48] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:33:38] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:33:52] <c0lo> https://ih1.redbubble.net
[07:34:48] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:35:21] <Subsentient> Ahh, so that's why they scream when you microwave them
[07:36:14] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:36:19] <Subsentient> https://i.imgur.com
[07:43:12] <c0lo> I think that's a good time to move the future "citations" on the line above on #shitlords
[07:46:12] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[08:00:21] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[08:37:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing to Pay $2.5bn to Resolve 737 MAX Criminal Probe in US - https://sylnt.us
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[10:56:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Identical Twins Don't Share 100% of Their DNA - https://sylnt.us - almost-but-not-quite
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[12:26:21] <Runaway1956> peterbilt379
[12:34:12] <Runaway1956> no, that's in Camden
[12:35:20] <Runaway1956> Damn, that's twice I typed in wrong window.
[13:01:38] <isocelated> Well, just threw my back out while washing my face. Today's already starting out awesome.
[13:09:32] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:09:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5440
[13:17:41] <Runaway1956> coffee++ in agreement with bytram
[13:17:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5441
[13:18:08] <requerdanos> coffee++ first cup of the day
[13:18:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5442
[13:18:28] <Bytram> !uid
[13:18:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 13841, owned by Jasonaxel
[13:18:48] <Runaway1956> rudely awakened this morning - need lots moar coffee
[13:19:18] <AzumaHazuki> coffee++ // right on schedule, became a coffee drinker the year my mother did
[13:19:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5443
[13:19:29] <requerdanos> I used to keep a percolator but my wife prefers the keurig, so guess what we have in the kitchen
[13:20:13] <Runaway1956> I'll have to be crippled and bed bound before any takes away my Bunn coffee maker
[13:20:39] <AzumaHazuki> i can only drink 1/4 strength but that may be because i drink the entire pot, so...
[13:20:49] <AzumaHazuki> still comes out to two or three full-size cups
[13:22:30] <AzumaHazuki> also? too much caffeine makes it burn when you pee @_@ i had no idea till last year
[13:23:27] <requerdanos> interesting
[13:23:50] <Runaway1956> We seem to have new neighbors, prompting me to study up on neighbor eradication techniques
[13:24:02] <requerdanos> just be yourself?
[13:24:06] <Runaway1956> This is fifth night in a row coyotes have made a ruckus
[13:24:42] <Runaway1956> I think they want my dogs to come out and play, and that seldom ends well unless the dogs are trained to hunt coyotes
[13:25:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Honda Cuts Car Production on Massive Chip Shortage - https://sylnt.us - supply-chain-economics || Brazilian Study Says Sinovac Coronavirus Jab 78% Effective - https://sylnt.us - 3/4-of-achance
[13:27:12] <Runaway1956> https://coveryourtracks.eff.org
[13:27:12] <systemd> ^ 03Cover Your Tracks
[13:27:40] <Runaway1956> That page is quite different from the last time I visited -
[13:28:11] <requerdanos> Maybe they're covering their... nah, nevermind
[13:32:45] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[13:32:47] <systemd> ^ 03‘Completely untrustworthy’: Iran BANS import of coronavirus vaccines from US and Britain
[13:33:06] <Runaway1956> Paranoia will destroy ya
[13:33:19] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, look what happened to you 9_9
[13:33:26] <Runaway1956> of course, they do have reason to be paranoid
[13:34:15] <Runaway1956> Good question whether we would stoop so low as to ship them bogus vaccines - we've already blocked money for Venezuela they claim to need for vaccines
[13:35:20] <requerdanos> *declined to unblock
[13:36:30] <Runaway1956> Oh - that's a new one - RT dotcom wants to install a browser extension -
[13:36:38] <Runaway1956> need that like I need a hole in my head
[13:36:39] <requerdanos> seems legit
[13:37:50] <Runaway1956> just spent more than an hour on EFF.org (last night and this morning) making my browsers LESS trackable
[13:38:06] <AzumaHazuki> why are you browsing communist fascist pinko red soviet news, traitor?
[13:38:16] <requerdanos> spoofing a windows user agent, for example?
[13:38:34] <requerdanos> uh, RT carefully avoids that sort of news
[13:38:35] <Runaway1956> typical Democrat - "The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!"
[13:38:56] <Runaway1956> yup, spoofind UA among other things requerdanos
[13:39:09] <Runaway1956> fingerprint defenders
[13:39:21] <Runaway1956> delete cookies when a tab is closed
[13:39:25] <Runaway1956> etc ad nauseum
[13:41:21] <FatPhil> https://www.kuvaton.com
[13:42:33] <Runaway1956> lol FatPhil - we all need images of Saint Greta on our energy hungry devices
[13:50:10] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.engadget.com Oh, NO! We're not monopolistic at all!
[13:50:12] <systemd> Submitting "WhatsApp: Let us share your data with Facebook or else"...
[13:50:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03WhatsApp: Let Us Share Your Data With Facebook or Else" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:12:24] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.iihs.org
[14:12:26] <systemd> Submitting "Evidence mounts for effectiveness of rear autobrake"...
[14:12:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Evidence Mounts for Effectiveness of Rear Autobrake" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:27:42] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[14:27:43] <systemd> Submitting "NVIDIA fixes high severity flaws affecting Windows, Linux devices"...
[14:28:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NVIDIA Fixes High Severity Flaws Affecting Windows, Linux Devices" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:45:22] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[14:45:24] <systemd> Submitting "Google Chrome browser privacy plan investigated in UK"...
[14:45:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Google Chrome Browser Privacy Plan Investigated in UK" (33 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:49:29] <Runaway1956> https://www.ctvnews.ca
[14:49:30] <systemd> ^ 03'World's unluckiest burglars' arrested after pocket-dialling police during robbery
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[15:47:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - After Decades of Effort, Scientists Are Finally Seeing Black Holes - Or Are They? - https://sylnt.us
[16:04:41] <Runaway1956> 'Muricans enjoy their idiocy.
[16:04:45] <Runaway1956> https://reason.com
[16:04:46] <systemd> ^ 03Liquid Death
[16:26:05] <FatPhil> Doesn't look like it has electrolytes, so I'm not interested
[16:26:36] <FatPhil> https://www.wired.com
[16:26:37] <systemd> ^ 03How Fake Energy Drink Brawndo Came to Life
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[18:17:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GPU, Motherboard Prices Will Jump Thanks to US-China Trade War - https://sylnt.us - Cost-of-doing-business
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[20:34:44] <Teckla> Georgia Woman Trampled to Death in Capitol Riot Carried 'Don't Tread on Me' Flag to Protest
[20:34:45] <Teckla> hahahaha
[20:35:22] <aristarchus_> Not funny. Sad.
[20:36:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Launches Turksat 5A Communications Satellite for Turkey, Lands Rocket - https://sylnt.us - broadband-for-everyone
[20:50:33] <Teckla> aristarchus_: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
[22:07:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Honda Cuts Car Production on Massive Chip Shortage [Updated; see note] - https://sylnt.us - supply-chain-economics
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[22:13:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Aww, sheeeit! Cancel culture accelerating!
[22:13:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Ban everybody! Our ideas are so good that we have to silence everybody who disagrees!
[22:14:17] <Ethanol-fueled> My personal wet-dream would be the release of a report that Israeli interfereince got Trump elected in 2016.
[22:14:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Then I can label anybody who got mad at me for voting Trump "anti-Semitic"
[22:15:28] <Ethanol-fueled> But I have to thank you all, because you never banned me...YET.
[22:15:30] <Ethanol-fueled> BAHAHAHAH.
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[22:56:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Evidence Mounts for Effectiveness of Rear Autobrake - https://sylnt.us - watch-where-you're-going!
[23:11:51] <Runaway1956> Has anyone noticed that Ethanol Fueled is alive?
[23:11:59] <Runaway1956> I thought maybe the COVID caught him.
[23:12:28] <FatPhil> I thought anyone could log in as him and just dump junk for keks
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[23:21:05] <aristarchus_> Nick thief detected: [~43dfc829@67.223.okg.wi] has joined #soylent
[23:22:15] <aristarchus_> Also known as Runaway1956 [~some@67.223.okg.wi]
[23:24:59] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.foxnews.com
[23:25:01] <systemd> Submitting "DOJ reveals striking details of riot arrests, including helicopter laser strikes and precinct arson"...
[23:25:24] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03DOJ Reveals Striking Details of Riot Arrests, Including Helicopter Laser Strikes and Precinct Arson" (78 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:27:53] <aristarchus> How does someone "steal" something that has no value?
[23:28:24] <aristarchus_> =submit https://www.msn.com
[23:28:25] <systemd> Submitting "Opinion: A Confederate flag at the Capitol summons America's demons"...
[23:28:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Opinion: a Confederate Flag at the Capitol Summons America's Demons" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:28:53] <aristarchus> Excuse us, aristarchus_ and I have been summoned
[23:29:03] <aristarchus_> aristarchus --
[23:29:20] <aristarchus> summoned you are
[23:29:48] <aristarchus> or in modern American English, summonsed
[23:29:48] <Bytram> it was the summoned of our discontent
[23:29:53] <Bytram> ;)
[23:30:10] <Runaway1956> lol
[23:30:22] <aristarchus_> aristarchus--
[23:30:22] <Bender> karma - aristarchus: 4
[23:31:30] <Bytram> aristarchus++
[23:31:30] <Bender> karma - aristarchus: 5
[23:33:07] <BoogalooBalogna> This IRC thing is so confusing.
[23:36:41] <aristarchus> https://www.westernjournal.com
[23:36:43] <systemd> ^ 03Black Lives Matter Founder Admits BLM Is a Far-Left Political Organization in Resurfaced Interview: 'We're Trained Marxists'
[23:37:32] <FatPhil> herp derp, that's years old
[23:38:17] <aristarchus> So are you FatPhil but we don't discriminate here
[23:39:19] <FatPhil> some definitely have a hard time discriminating between some things
[23:39:41] <aristarchus> What are you saying, you do discriminate?
[23:40:54] <aristarchus_> Runaway wearing a pointy white hood with a stolen Greek nick is still an ignorant moron. Not the real aristarchus.
[23:41:13] <requerdanos> https://www.cnn.com
[23:41:17] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter bans President Trump permanently
[23:41:31] <BoogalooBalogna> so confusing
[23:44:44] aristarchus_ is now known as runaway1957
[23:45:08] <runaway1957> =submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[23:45:19] <systemd> Submitting "Arkansas man who posed in Pelosi’s office and West Virginia delegate-elect among those charged in Capitol breach"...
[23:45:22] <chromas> Shouldn't you be 1955 so you can pull seniority?
[23:45:40] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Arkansas Man Who Posed in Pelosi’s Office and West Virginia Delegate-elect Among Those Charged in " (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:45:52] <runaway1957> Less dementia.
[23:48:31] <aristarchus> '57 does pull - - - - - pud
[23:51:24] <BoogalooBalogna> so how does that karma thing work?
[23:51:50] <runaway1957> aristarchus_++
[23:51:50] <Bender> karma - aristarchus_: 2
[23:52:08] <BoogalooBalogna> aristarchus++ got it
[23:52:09] <Bender> karma - aristarchus: 6
[23:52:21] <BoogalooBalogna> But, why are there two of you?
[23:52:28] <runaway1957> runaway1956--
[23:52:28] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 24
[23:52:47] <BoogalooBalogna> runaway1957--
[23:52:47] <Bender> karma - runaway1957: 0
[23:52:52] <BoogalooBalogna> Ohhhh - kay
[23:53:07] <BoogalooBalogna> and why are there two of you?
[23:53:33] <runaway1957> Attention to detail. Known nick thieves at work. One of these nicks is fraudulent.
[23:53:33] <BoogalooBalogna> SkinlessBeef++
[23:53:33] <Bender> karma - skinlessbeef: 1
[23:53:49] <BoogalooBalogna> so you are fraudulent
[23:54:07] <BoogalooBalogna> I just watched you change from one nick to another like a shapeshifter
[23:54:44] <aristarchus> Heh - the quiet ones are observant
[23:55:23] <requerdanos> perhaps the two of you should be observant.
[23:55:43] <requerdanos> you know, if that makes quiet and all :)
[23:55:49] <Runaway1956> requerdanos++
[23:55:49] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 17
[23:56:16] <runaway1957> =submit https://www.yahoo.com
[23:56:24] <systemd> Submitting "Lucy Lawless Condemns Former Xena Costar Kevin Sorbo for Spreading Far-Right Conspiracy Theory"...
[23:56:45] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lucy Lawless Condemns Former Xena Costar Kevin Sorbo for Spreading Far-Right Conspiracy Theory" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:57:07] runaway1957 is now known as runawayXXXX
[23:57:43] <aristarchus> =submit https://genzconservative.com
[23:57:45] <systemd> Submitting "The Left is Normalizing Pedophilia, Especially in 2020 California &raquo; Gen Z Conservative"...
[23:57:59] <Bytram> requerdanos++
[23:57:59] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 18
[23:58:02] <runawayXXXX> I never pretended to be anyone besides my unique nick.
[23:58:03] <BoogalooBalogna> You did it again
[23:58:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Left is Normalizing Pedophilia, Especially in 2020 California &Raquo; Gen Z Conservative" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:58:39] <Runaway1956> liar liar pants on fire