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[00:00:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have 83 new messages
[00:00:57] <Runaway1956> That's about what my email says
[00:01:08] <Runaway1956> "You have 83 new notifications on Facebook:
[00:01:19] <Runaway1956> after a wekk or two, I click to see what they all are
[00:07:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Kind of Screen Time? - https://sylnt.us - Video-superstition
[00:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> these were all since last night though
[00:17:12] <FatPhil> It's bizarre what drops out occasionally:
[00:17:41] <FatPhil> The new normal is ~ non-whites' realm (anagram)
[00:18:26] <FatPhil> I've probably empowered some crazies now, sorry.
[00:19:13] <FatPhil> Man, white loners ~ is the new normal.
[00:19:24] <FatPhil> Incel alert!
[00:19:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be cowboys too
[00:20:50] <Runaway1956> Are there people who still believe "normal" is somehow desirable?
[00:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure. and they're always oppressive asshats with a penchant for blue hair. blue-haired church ladies or blue-haired sjws, not really much difference.
[00:23:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, https://www.youtube.com
[00:23:31] <systemd> ^ 03Boy's Don't Cry - I Wanna Be A Cowboy
[00:24:50] <FatPhil> uh-oh, I empowered the crazies, I knew it
[00:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't you, it was castle grayskull
[00:27:18] <FatPhil> I was watching a movie that had Skeletor in it tonight!
[00:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato, which?
[00:27:53] <FatPhil> OK, it was Frank Langela, but he was Skeletor once, that's all that matters
[00:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, roger
[00:28:14] <FatPhil> /The Trial of the Chicago 7/ (2020, Netflix)
[00:29:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, there ain't a whole lot of women who'll keep their sense of humor if you yell out "By the power of Grayskull!" in bed.
[00:29:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i've found anyway.
[00:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> still worth it though.
[00:30:23] <FatPhil> Just asked the g/f what her reaction would be, and she's still laughing
[00:30:35] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++ so thanks for that
[00:30:35] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 407
[00:30:54] * TheMightyBuzzard tips hat
[00:32:16] <Runaway1956> meanwhile, back in the bathtub
[00:32:21] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:32:23] <systemd> ^ 03Wrath Of The Bath! When The Giant Sulking Dog Gives In!! (It's Not That Bad!!)
[00:32:38] * Runaway1956 is jealous of the dog
[00:33:25] <Runaway1956> That's not you, FatPhil ???
[00:34:57] <FatPhil> which one?
[00:35:09] <Runaway1956> The big boy in the tub, lol
[00:35:37] <Runaway1956> He's just like my girls - loves dirty swampy water, hates clean water
[00:35:54] <FatPhil> I shed as much hair as that does, but almost all from a few hundred cm^2 region atop the head.
[00:36:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's mostly turning gray rather than turning loose
[00:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> thinning but still no visible scalp
[00:38:39] <FatPhil> Beard area's all salt-and-pepper (but red pepper more than black), but I still am mostly dark brown on top. Just near the temples has the white started to appear.
[00:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, that stupid video has me down an 80s mtv rabbit hole now
[00:39:23] <FatPhil> Mum's side had male pattern baldness, dad's side didn't. Hair colour says I've got mum's side's hair. So waiting for the drop...
[00:39:25] <Runaway1956> Well, Phil - my red hairs fell out first, then the brown hairs started turning gray, and the gray spread toward the top
[00:39:44] <Runaway1956> finally hairline started receding . . . .
[00:40:04] <FatPhil> My muzzle literally went white in my 20s, there are some patches that have never had any pigment at all.
[00:40:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, same but the gray is nearsighted so it just scattered around the whole sides of my head to make sure
[00:41:13] <FatPhil> My mum's red hair stayed red well into her 70s, so I'm not sure any familial patterns can be accurately concluded.
[00:41:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't matter all that much though. really difficult to tell since i hit it with clippers any time it looks like i might need to invest in a comb/brush soon
[00:41:55] <Runaway1956> Oh, red haired sisters are just as red as the days they were born - no graying, no baldness
[00:41:58] <Runaway1956> it just ain't fair
[00:42:04] <FatPhil> If I go bald, I'l go bald like Mick Fleetwood. People who shave their heads to cover the fact they're balding are vain cowards.
[00:42:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've been doing it since i got out of the army. pure laziness.
[00:43:19] <FatPhil> Yeah, I don't cut my hair because of laziness. Too much effort!
[00:43:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but then you gotta brush it every few days at least. i can go a month without having to use the clippers again.
[00:44:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i can just use bar soap top to bottom. no shampoo for me, i demand real poo.
[00:44:33] <FatPhil> I was a grade-2 kinda guy back in the 80s. Then I discovered quiffs, and suddenly length became fun.
[00:44:46] <FatPhil> Then I discovered metal, and length became essential
[00:45:21] <FatPhil> dunno if you use the same measurements, grade-2 = 1/8"
[00:46:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, i don't bother putting a guard on them.
[00:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> more time before i have to do it again
[00:46:30] <FatPhil> that's how I do my chin
[00:46:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too but only about once every couple years.
[00:47:31] <FatPhil> Man, I thought I was lazy, I've settled on about 4 months.
[00:48:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh that's not lazy, that's reveling in the ability to grow a near billy gibbons level beard.
[00:48:58] * TheMightyBuzzard inherited epic facial hair genes
[00:49:04] <FatPhil> Ah, not on my chin. I reckon one year of crowth would get me about a thumb's width of length, and look tragically shit.
[00:49:49] <FatPhil> I have an american mate who can do a billy gibbons in about 6 months!
[00:50:05] <FatPhil> Nope, that's not my g/f, you cheeky barsteward.
[00:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> takes me a lot longer. ha!
[00:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> first two inches go fast then my face decides "well fuck it. if you're not going to keep shaving it off i'm not going to get in a hurry."
[00:52:09] <FatPhil> trick it - shave some mutton-chops?
[00:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> klingon style? hmm...
[00:54:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i gotta quit screwing around and find something food-shaped
[00:56:32] <FatPhil> more like this: https://cdn3.volusion.com
[00:57:48] <FatPhil> mutton chops?
[00:58:23] <FatPhil> Or the poor modern substitute, a McMutton Chopburger?
[00:58:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nah. the main perk of not shaving is not having to do the adam's apple
[00:58:57] <FatPhil> Ah, as someone who was blessed with the "enough adams apple for two" gene, yup, concur.
[01:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only other difficult bit on my face is my mustache makes a valiant effort to climb high enough to be considered nose hair and the old safety razors don't corner well enough to get it in one pass.
[01:01:50] <FatPhil> Tweezers!
[01:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, i got a cigarette lighter
[01:02:10] <FatPhil> old-school
[01:02:14] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[01:02:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, wait!
[01:03:06] * FatPhil pauses
[01:03:26] <FatPhil> in antici....
[01:04:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com\
[01:04:15] <systemd> ^ 03How to Remove Your Mustache (REUPLOAD)
[01:04:17] <FatPhil> ...pation
[01:04:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nuke the backslash, that was a miskey
[01:04:47] * FatPhil hands buzz a kbd with a tall return
[01:08:34] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++ thanks for that too!
[01:08:34] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 408
[01:10:15] <FatPhil> Is he the guy who builds guitars out of mains cable, still plugged into the mains?
[01:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, he's hilarious and educational both
[01:17:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> that one had to be posted by someone else though cause it got censored on the grounds of someone actually trying that shit isn't COMPLETELY impossible
[01:28:41] <Bytram> To think they were seriously considering launching SLS without this testing: https://www.washingtonpost.com
[01:28:51] <systemd> ^ 03NASA cuts short first ‘hot-fire’ test of its massive moon rocket, already plagued by delays and cost overruns
[01:29:54] <Bytram> Less than 2 minutes is kinda close to the 8-minute, full-duration test fire they had planned, right?
[01:32:13] <FatPhil> yeah, but no kaboom
[01:32:16] <Bytram> It's looking more and more likely to me that SpaceX will launch SuperHeavy+StarShip and achieve orbit before SLS launches
[01:32:48] <Bytram> patience, paaatience... they're working on it!
[01:33:18] <Bytram> All that paperwork can be a drag, yanno?
[01:33:46] <FatPhil> first we have to persuade all the international politicians to get aboard.
[01:34:51] <Bytram> and the phone sanitizers, too?
[01:34:59] <FatPhil> nope, we might need them
[01:35:06] <Bytram> lol!
[01:37:47] <Bytram> in the past 10 hours we've had 1.5" (3.8 cm) of rain
[01:41:08] <Bytram> barometer is down to 29.16 in (987 mb) -- and has been dropping all day
[01:46:26] <FatPhil> wow
[01:46:44] <FatPhil> g/f's parents report fairly extreme winds
[01:47:53] <FatPhil> we have had nice gentle snow for the last 4 days, nothing extreme, with all the xmas lights out it makes the town quite pretty.
[01:48:46] <FatPhil> we live on one of the streets the council puts xmas trees with lights on, so we get the positive vibes right from leaving our front gate.
[01:49:18] <FatPhil> which probably means I could steal electricity for the rest of the year ;-)
[01:52:54] <FatPhil> if anyone thinks this is worth subbing feel free to sub it: https://www.spectator.co.uk
[01:53:33] <FatPhil> it's just an opinion piece, obvs.
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[03:23:03] <AzumaHazuki> https://soylentnews.org this comment should not have been modded Spam. it is not redundant or a repost
[03:23:04] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | New TV Show Idea ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:23:20] <AzumaHazuki> i just noticed this one while scanning journals
[03:32:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> disagree. once is off topic, multiple off topic posts of the same nature are spam. pretty sure we have an example of similar in the guidelines unless someone removed it.
[03:34:07] <AzumaHazuki> Weren't you the one who said the guidelines for Spam are essentially multiple exact or near-exact copies?
[03:34:44] <AzumaHazuki> mind you i can't say I'm surprised at the hypocrisy and selective enforcement :) not even all that disappointed. just rolling my eyes.
[03:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope. i'm the one who wrote in the guidelines that these are not exhaustive.
[03:35:17] <AzumaHazuki> "the rules mean what I want them to mean"
[03:35:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, sure. i'm not going to try writing out every possible permutation of spam though.
[03:36:13] <AzumaHazuki> unless it's content you don't like :)
[03:36:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. and the only content i don't like is content that is not conversation.
[03:36:58] <AzumaHazuki> that post was more topical than 2/3 of the shit you post as journal entries
[03:37:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> journal entries can be whatever you like, including spam.
[03:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> they aren't subject to moderation.
[03:37:29] <AzumaHazuki> you fucked up and broke cover, you know. you probably didn't mean to but it's pretty clear you're in with the Q Cucks' Klan (LOL) now.
[03:37:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you just read shit you wanted to be there into what i've said. because you do that.
[03:38:12] <AzumaHazuki> you fucked up. you got mad and stepped too close to the line
[03:38:29] <AzumaHazuki> one of these days you're going to cross Brandenburg v. Ohio, and when you do, not even section 230 will save you
[03:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i totally mince words and refrain from speaking my mind all the time.
[03:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's so like me.
[03:38:55] <AzumaHazuki> oh no, i'd never accuse you of having a filter or a moment's social awareness
[03:39:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yet you just did
[03:39:10] <AzumaHazuki> i mean the contents of your mind are changing, and since you DON'T have a filter, you just shart whatever wherever
[03:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> make up your mind.
[03:39:36] <AzumaHazuki> one of these days you'll be radicalized enough that you cross a line and post something that fails the Brandenburg v. Ohio test
[03:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> do i say anything that pops into my head or have i been holding back my evil thoughts?
[03:39:57] <AzumaHazuki> again, not because your self-filter fails, but because the contents of your mind have changed. since you have no filter, you just post whatever is on it
[03:40:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> bored now, you're just repeating your contradictions
[03:40:28] <AzumaHazuki> for your own sake, watch the sources of information you consume. you're as impressionable as wet clay
[03:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> have a pleasant evening, ima go to bed.
[03:40:54] <AzumaHazuki> you can't escape your own hubris. you will hang yourself by your own hand
[03:41:03] <AzumaHazuki> and i'll be watching to laugh at it
[03:41:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, if i were gonna hang myself, i'd use a rope. my hands are pretty strong but not that strong.
[03:41:35] <AzumaHazuki> i bet your right is 3x the strength of your left :D
[03:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> oddly, no. my right's more fine motor than my left but my left is stronger
[03:42:27] <AzumaHazuki> weird. so you're ambisinistral?
[03:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i just throw stuff i don't need to pay attention to in my left hand. 5gal paint buckets and the like.
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[03:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though, bed. and congrats on not pissing anyone off for long enough to get off probation.
[03:47:24] <AzumaHazuki> they'd be nuts to get rid of me. someone who LIKES night shift, does the work of 2 people, constantly does overtime (including 10+ hours just this week)...
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[03:48:32] * Deucalion is not sleeping
[03:50:14] <aristarchus> Thanks for the nick back, Deucalion.
[03:51:27] <AzumaHazuki> LOL! Runaway got it forcefully de-reg'd?
[03:51:46] <AzumaHazuki> I wonder who he pissed off this time? Stupid Q Cucks Klanner that he is
[03:52:00] * Bytram looked at the article mentioned; does not duplicate another comment of which I am aware, it *not* GNAA or APK or SPAM, and it is on-topic... reversing spam mod
[03:52:35] <aristarchus> Bytram, there were two?
[03:52:36] <AzumaHazuki> LOL! Thank you <3 Rules have to be rules for everyone
[03:53:03] <AzumaHazuki> Uzzard isn't fit to admin if he doesn't get this. maybe he should be bumped down to code monkey exclusively for this?
[03:53:55] <Deucalion> aristarchus, hit up hostserv /hs offerlist then /hs take <the one that I want> - it'll mask your location better than the basic masking does
[03:54:43] <Deucalion> /hs help for commands
[03:56:54] <Bytram> having done that... the user seems to have copy/pasta an entire article but in pieces from another site. Once could argue a possible issue with DMCA or plagiarism, but I am running on 4 hrs sleep last night and don't feel like making the effort at this point.
[03:57:10] <Deucalion> OK - just realised HostServ help is really unuseful
[03:57:11] <AzumaHazuki> you did the right thing
[04:11:21] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, no force was involved, the release was requested by myself and done with expediency by the party involved. What I am trying to achieve here on IRC is a general rule and balance of "don't be an arse/dick/douche/vernacular". I could have stripped the nick by force, but this place is not about top down authority, I expect people to behave like the adults that they are. Open and sometimes brutal discussion is fine. Impersonation is off
[04:11:21] <Deucalion> radar into the fraud scale of bad and if people here want to go that way I can bring in the measures to remove it, I'd rather not burn the brain cycles to do that - so let's be civil humans in here despite what the world throws at us. What say you?
[04:33:26] <aristarchus> Ipse dixit.
[04:34:55] <aristarchus> And, bytram, I would imagine a socialist news organization would be at least Creative Commons, and cite of source was given. Copyleft, they call it!
[04:44:55] <Deucalion> aristarchus, before anyone gets to use the word "socialist" in this channel they have to define what they believe socialism is. I made that up on the spot. But neat idea - an anonymous Journal were people get to comment their definition of "thing". Anon posts a Journal entry with Title one word - the comments - people's interpretation of that Title word. If treated honestly I think it would be fascinating.
[04:46:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Studying Chaos with One of the World's Fastest Cameras - https://sylnt.us - tripping-the-light-fantastic
[04:51:04] <aristarchus> Well, there is this: https://www.wsws.org World Socialist Web Site, Socialism is the public ownership of the means of production. Communism is the cessation of ownership. Pretty simple concepts, if capitalists were not so threatened by the mass of lumpenproletariat!
[04:51:06] <systemd> ^ 03World Socialist Web Site - Marxist analysis, international working class struggles & the fight for socialism ( https://www.wsws.org )
[04:57:12] <aristarchus> And obviously you have not seen my valiant (and numerous) arguments over "begs the question" about how common usuage does not alway define terms.
[05:00:31] <Deucalion> I can do nothing but sigh at that interpretation presented to the inmates of USA. Meanwhile if I stumble in front of a car tomorrow and get run over, I'm not bankrupt on exiting the hospital having been patched up.
[05:05:44] <Deucalion> I also agree about "common usage" to a degree - but eventually common usage becomes accepted definition as language changes over time. However, I believe there is a severe chasm between what the USA population appear to accept as definition of what socialism is and what anyone else does. Before serious talks always define terms, this is one.
[05:07:21] <aristarchus> And, of course, I could be wrong! © 1998-2021 World Socialist Web Site. All rights reserved. Hmm.
[05:10:05] <Deucalion> Fairly sure the concept of socialism predated any website.
[05:12:06] <Deucalion> As in living in caves ago. When the greedy bastards would be clubbed to death for eating too much. But OK - let's pretend history began in 1998 with websites.
[05:16:09] <aristarchus> There is the early versions of socialism, https://en.wikipedia.org like Robert Owen, and the much earlier religious and Monastic versions. Many were American, like the Oneida Commune.
[05:16:10] <systemd> ^ 03Utopian socialism - Wikipedia
[05:22:41] <aristarchus> καλημέρα, all!
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[05:26:43] <Deucalion> OK, let's pretend history didn't exist before the instantiation of the USA a mere few hundred years back for the sake of argument. And,,,, it's gone
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[08:34:13] <jasassin> Sup
[08:35:25] <AzumaHazuki> me, because night shift but day ("day") off
[08:35:45] <jasassin> Now's my chance to be a real IRC D.J.
[08:35:53] <AzumaHazuki> also did over 10 hours' overtime in 2 days, which included an hour of doing two jobs at once
[08:36:39] <jasassin> you got to work this weekend?
[08:36:58] <AzumaHazuki> no,i'm off this weekend (saturday night to monday afternoon)
[08:37:17] <jasassin> Any plans?
[08:37:23] <AzumaHazuki> try and sleep @_@
[08:37:42] <AzumaHazuki> i went 14 hours 2 days in a row
[08:37:44] <jasassin> Good luck hah!
[08:38:48] <jasassin> Sometimes when I code or problem solve, I can not sleep for days...
[08:39:16] <AzumaHazuki> i cannot function without minimum 6.5 hours' sleep, period. preferably 8 or my body functions start degrading
[08:40:26] <jasassin> I just fuck shit up after about 48 hours and people tell me to go to sleep.....
[08:40:56] <AzumaHazuki> i work in a hospital pharmacy so that's not an option. especially if Goddess forbid it's a sterile-compounding shift
[08:41:35] <jasassin> Pneumatic tubing shit around?
[08:44:01] <AzumaHazuki> among other things
[08:45:00] <AzumaHazuki> night shift is split into "rounder" and "stayback." Rounders gather the next day's medicines and fill fridges, Pyxis cabinets, patient bins etc and staybacks make IVs, but everyone handles unit dose labels, phones, tubing, and refilling crash carts
[08:45:56] <jasassin> What is the start pay?
[08:51:58] <AzumaHazuki> $19.24/hr with the nightshift differential
[08:52:07] <AzumaHazuki> i think $17.50 beforehand?
[08:52:48] <AzumaHazuki> this doesn't sound like a lot to some people maybe but it's damn near double what i've ever made anywhere else. i can save like mad on this
[08:53:19] <jasassin> Especially full time!
[08:54:19] <jasassin> I'm a bus aide, I make 16 and only work two hours a day. Just enough to slide by.
[08:55:37] <jasassin> Buckaroo Bonsai goes to the nursing home.
[08:56:50] <AzumaHazuki> this hospital is damn understaffed, and i bet it's like that everywhere
[08:57:05] <AzumaHazuki> i didn't get hired at Buffalo General, the "Big House," but that may be a good thing
[08:57:21] <jasassin> All of my life has been spent on radiation and crocheting.
[08:57:57] <AzumaHazuki> ...?
[09:00:04] <jasassin> Ironic what you're talking about... I graduated top of my class in nuclear medicine... except for pharmacology. Like barely passed at 80%
[09:02:09] <jasassin> Alpha blockers... beta blockers... proton pump inhibitors... blow me.
[09:03:33] <AzumaHazuki> those are the easy ones
[09:03:46] <AzumaHazuki> wait till you start getting into monoclonal antibodies, biologics and biosimilars...
[09:04:01] * AzumaHazuki is entirely self-taught, did geology in college
[09:04:17] <jasassin> Fuck THAT
[09:04:39] <AzumaHazuki> i didn't even study for the national cert exam and got a perfect 1600. it's not that hard
[09:05:13] <jasassin> that's like going from ionic bonds to covalent bonds
[09:05:36] <jasassin> Nice
[09:08:08] <jasassin> You can laugh at me all you want, but looking at slides under the microscope, I couldn't tell the different stages of mitosis.
[09:08:45] <jasassin> All looked the same to me.
[09:08:57] <AzumaHazuki> i was never any good at microscopy...it's all chemistry with me, not biology
[09:10:23] <jasassin> Yeah I love chemistry... not so good at math.... is that weird?
[09:11:28] <AzumaHazuki> no, i'm the same way
[09:12:49] <jasassin> You do any programming?
[09:14:21] <AzumaHazuki> no, i can't seem to
[09:14:39] <jasassin> I can't program worth a shit
[09:16:48] <jasassin> Mostly just pipe shit through awk and sed.... grep uniq
[09:18:13] <jasassin> If I need to get hardcore I'll bust out my perl books
[09:19:04] <jasassin> I gave up on C... I never know how much memory something might take
[09:20:13] <jasassin> TMB is a pimp in perl
[09:22:52] <jasassin> Gonna go watch some mst3k
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[09:26:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NRA Declares Bankruptcy, Plans to Incorporate in Texas - https://sylnt.us - gunning-for-a-way-out
[09:38:43] <FatPhil> everything takes at least 3 times as much memory in perl than C
[09:39:38] <chromas> Yeah but perl has modules
[09:40:07] <FatPhil> nope, it has namespaces, it just calls them modules
[09:40:32] <chromas> well fine then. still more modular than c tho
[09:40:42] <chromas> c doesn't even pretend, does it?
[09:41:29] <FatPhil> well, namespaces are just semantic sugar, so effectively aren't anything at all.
[09:42:21] <FatPhil> C does have linker-level encapsulation, things can be actually hidden from each other by simply not exporting them
[09:46:09] <chromas> sugar's tasty tho
[10:03:41] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:03:44] <systemd> ^ 03Bobby Brown - On Our Own (Ghostbusters 2 Soundtrack)
[11:09:02] <AzumaHazuki> https://soylentnews.org another Spam mod (or is this the same one and the reversal didn't stick?)
[11:09:03] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | New TV Show Idea ( https://soylentnews.org )
[11:37:08] <FatPhil> the spam mod was made by a non-censorious person, so I would trust it to not be malicious
[11:40:48] <AzumaHazuki> it's not about malice. it's about the definition of spam and when the mod is and is not to be used
[11:40:59] <AzumaHazuki> we've been over this, and Bytram already reversed one on that same thread
[12:04:53] <FatPhil> I missed that discussion
[12:05:45] <FatPhil> It wasn't the kind of post that would make me even think of spam modding it, but I don't have the full context so shan't pass judgement.
[12:06:56] <AzumaHazuki> you can pass judgment if you know the facts
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[13:00:10] <raxas> everything you see in politics today was already defined in anime long before https://www.youtube.com
[13:00:12] <systemd> ^ 03Mitsuboshi Colours - You need to Explode
[14:17:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How the Famed Arecibo Telescope Fell—and How it Might Rise Again - https://sylnt.us - fall-of-our-dish-content
[14:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, there is no exhaustive definition and you will not get one.
[14:37:02] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, yeah, it's "whatever you feel like it is"
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[14:56:41] <Bytram> There has been an in-depth discussion among staff about SPAM mods. It is still in progress. There is, as yet, no definitive answer, but neither has this been ignored. This may take some time, but it IS being addressed.
[14:56:51] <Bytram> break time
[14:56:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:56:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5454
[15:20:52] <raxas> suggestion: if spam mod decrements the modder karma as well it will not be misused as often. meaning is a nonzero cost of spam modding. also, a barrier of certain karma level would be a fine complement to such mechanics
[15:34:24] <FatPhil> The National Rifle Association = Fiscal annihilation, a reset too. (anagram)
[15:36:05] <Runaway1956_> conduct unbecoming a staff member
[15:36:09] <Runaway1956_> https://soylentnews.org
[15:36:10] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | New TV Show Idea ( https://soylentnews.org )
[15:37:34] <Runaway1956_> I kinda think posts made in support of spam posts should probably be modded as spam as well
[15:37:40] <Runaway1956_> that would piss her off, LMAO!!
[15:42:13] <Runaway1956_> Awwww nuts. I thought that Runaway1956_ was going to disappear - apparently I still don't have my login settings set correctly yet
[15:42:28] <Runaway1956_> Not that important, can't mess with it this morning
[15:55:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, it's just an attempt at selective rules lawyering in an attempt to make the admins look bad and piss them off. standard sjw tactic right before they move in and make rules with out definition that are entirely to be interpreted by the new admins.
[15:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, hate speech and the like.
[15:56:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> isn't going to work here though.
[15:59:32] <FatPhil> Ah, now I've got the context, I'd support the spam mod. It was an out-of-control shitnozzle, the third in a sequence of 3 posts - following up to self, not engaging in dialogue.
[16:00:18] <Runaway1956_> agree with TMB
[16:00:29] <Runaway1956_> nod of understanding at fatphil
[16:01:08] <Runaway1956_> of course, I had nothing to do with the spam modding, except the reply to 'Zumi
[16:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> she doesn't actually care anyway. her objection is entirely disingenuous and tribal in nature.
[16:58:35] <bacteria> coffee++
[16:58:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5455
[16:58:40] <bacteria> satan++
[16:58:40] <Bender> karma - satan: 4
[17:06:12] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.commondreams.org
[17:06:15] <systemd> Submitting "Heightening Risk of Accidental Nuclear War, Russia Follows Trump's Lead and Withdraws From Open Skies Treaty"...
[17:06:37] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Heightening Risk of Accidental Nuclear War, Russia Follows Trump's Lead and Withdraws From Open Skie" (27p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:13:09] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: Here's an idea, try this command: /nick Runaway1956
[17:15:21] <Runaway1956_> That will work Bytram - but I've already logged into IRPG
[17:15:29] <Runaway1956_> a nick change will be penalized
[17:15:56] * Teckla is impressed IRPG is still a thing!
[17:16:17] <Runaway1956_> I'll try again later to get my IRC login to properly ghost when it gets disconnected
[17:16:32] <Bytram> that kind of nick change is entirely permissible, and I will go to bat for you should anyone take issue with it.
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[17:17:55] <Runaway1956> Huh, looks like you are correct - nick changing between registered nicks did not produce an IRPG penalty
[17:18:07] <Bytram> =)
[17:18:30] <Runaway1956> Oooops, yes it did
[17:18:35] <Runaway1956> Penalty of 4 days, 22:48:55 added to your timer for nick change.
[17:19:22] <Runaway1956> The rules is the rules - can't change them, lol
[17:19:48] <Bytram> HUH????
[17:20:27] <Runaway1956> NerdRPG notifies of the penalty in the private window used to log in
[17:20:39] <Runaway1956> it doesn't show that penalty in #IRPG
[17:21:22] <Runaway1956> no big deal, I'm sure everyone else gets the same penalty for doing the same thing
[17:21:49] <Bytram> Oh, NerdRPG? That's entirely different kettle of fish -- so sorry, I had no idea! I thought you were talking about rules set by the IRC admin.
[17:22:42] <Runaway1956> nothing to worry about - I just need to make my client ghost properly when it logs in unattended
[17:43:06] <FatPhil> I wrote a patch specifically for SN such that some nick changes weren't punished, but it was quite narrow in scope
[18:58:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discuss! (v2.0) - https://sylnt.us - drawing-a-blank
[19:20:28] <chromas> I'm excited for Discuss! (v3.11 for Workgroups)
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[20:39:08] <Runaway1956> https://wassermanschultz.house.gov
[20:39:08] <systemd> ^ 03No | U.S. House of Representatives ( https://wassermanschultz.house.gov )
[21:32:29] <Bytram> chromas++ ROFL!
[21:32:29] <Bender> karma - chromas: 324
[21:47:01] <FatPhil> The National Rifle Association = Insane tinfoil hat. Also, erotica. (anagram)
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[22:05:04] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[22:09:23] <FatPhil> chaotic good
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[22:58:40] <Runaway1956> Washington D.C. looks like a banana republic capitol, with some dictator being installed by force of arms.
[23:02:18] <FatPhil> Only to a psychotic loon.
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[23:04:18] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[23:04:20] <systemd> Submitting "Richard Branson's Virgin Orbit reaches space on 2nd try"...
[23:04:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Richard Branson's Virgin Orbit Reaches Space on 2nd Try" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:06:06] <c0lo> Covering protests in America is starting to look a little bit like reporting from an overseas hot spot. https://apnews.com
[23:06:07] <systemd> ^ 03Ex-foreign correspondent reflects on risks for US reporters
[23:07:21] <Runaway1956> Fatphil - what do you call 25 to 30 thousand troops patrolling the streets? A Soviet-era capital, maybe?
[23:08:15] <Runaway1956> Wait until the Taliban takes over in PakGhanistan - it will look much the same
[23:10:14] <FatPhil> Your sentence changes meaning when you remove the comma. You appear to be supporting the argument with a comma with evidence to support the argument without the comma.
[23:15:49] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[23:15:50] <systemd> Submitting "EU regulator: Hackers 'manipulated' stolen vaccine documents"...
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[23:16:49] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[23:16:50] <systemd> Submitting "US blacklists Xiaomi, CNOOC, Skyrizon, raising heat on China"...
[23:17:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Blacklists Xiaomi, CNOOC, Skyrizon, Raising Heat on China" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:19:27] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[23:19:28] <systemd> Submitting "$500K in Bitcoin sent from France to US far-right groups"...
[23:19:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03$500K in Bitcoin Sent From France to US Far-right Groups" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:20:55] <c0lo> =submit clean beautiful coal https://apnews.com
[23:20:56] <systemd> Submitting "For first time in 5 years, US gas mileage down, emissions up"...
[23:21:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03For First Time in 5 Years, US Gas Mileage Down, Emissions Up" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:23:51] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[23:23:53] <systemd> Submitting "Biden eyes ex-Obama staff to tackle Big Tech and other antitrust issues"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:24:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Eyes ex-Obama Staff to Tackle Big Tech and Other Antitrust Issues" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:25:39] <c0lo> =submit Buzzfeed reported this week that Facebook has been running ads for military equipment next to content promoting election misinformation and news about the violence on Jan. 6 https://www.reuters.com
[23:25:41] <systemd> Submitting "Facebook to ban ads promoting weapon accessories, protective gear in U.S."...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:26:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Facebook to Ban Ads Promoting Weapon Accessories, Protective Gear in U.S." (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:26:47] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[23:26:49] <systemd> Submitting "Brazil's Bolsonaro to allow China's Huawei in 5G auctions: newspaper"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:27:10] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Brazil's Bolsonaro to Allow China's Huawei in 5G Auctions: Newspaper" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:28:49] <c0lo> =submit auto manufacturers compete against the sprawling consumer electronics industry for chip supplies. Consumers have stocked up on laptops, gaming consoles and other electronic products https://www.reuters.com
[23:28:50] <systemd> Submitting "Trump's China tech war backfires on automakers as chips run short"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:29:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump's China Tech War Backfires on Automakers as Chips Run Short" (27p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:33:26] <c0lo> =submit safety-by-legislation dept https://www.reuters.com
[23:33:27] <systemd> Submitting "Tesla asks U.S. safety agency to declare speed display issue inconsequential"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:33:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tesla Asks U.S. Safety Agency to Declare Speed Display Issue Inconsequential" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:35:57] <c0lo> =submit petro-renminbi-anyone? https://www.reuters.com
[23:35:59] <systemd> Submitting "Huawei to open its biggest flagship store outside China in Riyadh"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[23:36:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Huawei to Open its Biggest Flagship Store Outside China in Riyadh" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[23:37:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Reportedly Requiring AV1 Decode Support in New Android TV Devices - https://sylnt.us - did-you-see-that?