#soylent | Logs for 2021-01-20

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[00:00:32] <raxas> let's just wait and see
[00:01:00] <Runaway1956> PBS lawyer probably still believes in deprogramming queers too
[00:02:31] <raxas> CIA director Gina Haspel resigns a day before Biden inauguration
[00:03:14] <raxas> those are just waves on top of the real flow
[00:03:58] <Runaway1956> =submit https://asia.nikkei.com
[00:04:02] <systemd> Submitting "Nikkei Asia"...
[00:04:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Nikkei Asia" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:04:25] <FatPhil> Attempting to reeducate those with genetic microencephaly is probably pointless.
[00:06:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 10 Bug Corrupts Hard Drive on Seeing This File's Icon - https://sylnt.us
[00:06:44] <Runaway1956> https://asia.nikkei.com
[00:06:45] <systemd> ^ 03Nikkei Asia
[00:06:56] <Runaway1956> 40 years ago, we didn't post that stuff to Facefook
[00:07:18] * Runaway1956 remains certain that his first son was conceived on a picnic table
[00:08:57] <raxas> thank you bender
[00:10:00] <FatPhil> fuck me, donnie don't 'arf go on.
[00:10:05] <raxas> but, 40 years ago, we all had hope everything will be better. not only it was not, but now, we are sure it will be worse
[00:10:44] <Runaway1956> Well, 40 years ago, Boomers had some confidence in themselves.
[00:10:55] <Runaway1956> Today, millennials dream doom and gloom
[00:11:54] <raxas> global warming and covid pandemia protrude from all the bad expectations now
[00:13:16] <Runaway1956> We might as well just lay down and die then.
[00:14:47] <raxas> not today. I still have a code to write and games to play and cat to feed
[00:14:55] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #soylent
[00:16:01] <FatPhil> I am amazed that Donnie managed to stay on script! Do you think he was wired up to the mains, and if he started to improvise he'd have been given a jolt?
[00:16:08] <Teckla> Runaway1956: I'm IRCing from my phone right now. :)
[00:16:20] <Runaway1956> High tech pig farms are here!
[00:16:23] <Runaway1956> https://futurism.com
[00:16:23] <systemd> ^ 03Bitcoin miners are heating chicken coops with their rigs
[00:16:34] <Runaway1956> But, isn't Teckla a bot?
[00:16:55] <Teckla> FatPhil: Were you a teacher, teaching C++?
[00:17:31] <AzumaHazuki> "freeznc.ru?"
[00:17:48] <FatPhil> My Ctrl key is broken on my phone, and I IRC inside a tmux session on my phone, so it's pretty hard to IRC reliably on it now. I have a spare body, I'll probably move over to it in the next couple of days.
[00:17:49] <Teckla> Sometimes I feel like a bot, but nope, I'm not a bot. Just an aging geek in Minnesota.
[00:18:16] <Teckla> Minne-snow-ta. :(
[00:18:29] <FatPhil> Teckla: yup, teaching at a bunch of polytechnics in Helsinki/Espoo. Back when CFront was pretty much the definition of C++.
[00:19:07] <Runaway1956> What is it, Zoom-Zoom? You don't like Russia?
[00:19:47] <FatPhil> I heard a minnesotan speak the other day, and the accent was really weird - it almost had some canadian elements to it - quite odd vowels.
[00:20:23] <Runaway1956> Minnesota's immigration history might seem strange to some outsiders
[00:20:33] <FatPhil> Lots of Finns, IIRC.
[00:20:41] <FatPhil> Well, more Finns than other states.
[00:20:44] <Runaway1956> Germans as well
[00:22:31] <Teckla> FatPhil: Wow, that's pretty cool. I was pretty excited about C++ back then. Now I'm horrified and repulsed by it. ;)
[00:22:32] <AzumaHazuki> what are you hiding that you need to bounce your activity off a Russian bouncer? this is new for you
[00:22:48] <AzumaHazuki> based on that and some of your previous recent comments and behavior I have to suspect you're up to something
[00:23:02] <AzumaHazuki> stay home on 20 January, all right? for your own sake don't try something stupid
[00:23:07] <Runaway1956> 'Zumi, every day is a new world for you - don't try to figure me out
[00:23:13] <FatPhil> Teckla: I'm so glad you said that without me having to prompt you - it's a fucking abomination now!
[00:23:38] <AzumaHazuki> there's nothing to figure out. you're as predictable as the tides, the only question being, at what point does the shore give in to erosion finally?
[00:23:59] <Runaway1956> I am the tide.
[00:24:12] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, you cosplaytriots really think that :< sad
[00:24:18] <Teckla> Yeah, some Minnesotans have interesting accents. I'm near the big cities here (Minneapolis/St. Paul) -- we don't have that Canadian-ish accent.
[00:24:54] <Teckla> Lots of Canadian transplants here, though. Lots of Germans. Lots of Swedes and other Northern Europeans.
[00:25:20] <Teckla> Getting pretty quickly overrun by Mexican immigrants everywhere, though.
[00:25:37] <AzumaHazuki> that kind of blows my mind. minnesota is colder than a lot of canada
[00:25:49] <FatPhil> If Runaway is the tide, does he come in pods?
[00:26:12] <AzumaHazuki> FatPhil: LOL! i think he means red tide. smelly, crazymaking, and probably infested with something
[00:26:39] <Runaway1956> Racissss 'Zumi! You think Mexicans can't deal with cold, or what?
[00:26:53] <FatPhil> Handy hint, boys and girls, don't put the tide's pods in your mouth.
[00:27:02] * AzumaHazuki reaches over and honks Runaway's giant red clown nose
[00:27:08] <AzumaHazuki> He Lost, Get Over It
[00:27:23] <Runaway1956> Put me back on ignore stupid, it's much more peaceful in here
[00:27:28] <AzumaHazuki> you can spend the next 2 years or so dancing for my entertainment :)
[00:27:41] <Teckla> The Mexicans here don't seem to have any issue with the cold.
[00:27:43] <AzumaHazuki> assuming you don't drop dead of butthurt before then
[00:28:06] * Runaway1956 has met Mexicans in all of the lower 48 states
[00:28:41] * Runaway1956 crossed the Arctic Circle with Mexican shipmates
[00:29:02] <Teckla> We have lots, and I mean *lots* of Mexicans here. All the schools post things in both English and Spanish these days, etc.
[00:29:49] * FatPhil attempts to switch to phone...
[00:29:51] <Runaway1956> I'll bet some of those "Mexicans" are undercover Guatemalans
[00:30:58] <Runaway1956> They're moving London - not just the bridge.
[00:31:00] <Teckla> Lots of South Americans too.
[00:31:02] <Runaway1956> https://globalnews.ca
[00:31:03] <systemd> ^ 03London, Ont., moves closer to decommissioning Springbank Dam - London
[00:31:13] <Teckla> It surprises me since we are so far north.
[00:31:43] <Runaway1956> I was surprised when I met the first Mexican in Connecticut - that was like 30 years ago
[00:32:47] <AzumaHazuki> Teckla: sounds like here in NYS. I'm still not fluent in Spanish and read it much better than I speak it, but can manage in that context
[00:32:52] <AzumaHazuki> much easier than Japanese for example
[00:33:02] <Teckla> Yeah. The U.S. is definitely going to be a Latino dominated country.
[00:33:32] <AzumaHazuki> i'm told by someone here that's because they "outbreed us."
[00:33:45] <Runaway1956> We've known that for a long time - it has taken this long for the globalists to coax enough Mexicans into the states
[00:33:50] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: I kind of wish I had taken Spanish in school.
[00:34:06] <AzumaHazuki> ohhh boy, someone turned on the crazy tap
[00:34:17] <AzumaHazuki> you've gone full-on Q Cucks Klan
[00:34:29] <Runaway1956> Cool it 'zumi
[00:34:44] <Teckla> I do think they "outbreed" whites; plus, there's very, very heavy levels of immigration.
[00:35:07] <Teckla> I'm not complaining or anything. It is what it is. *shrug*
[00:35:33] <Runaway1956> Mexicans love their children, Americans abort their children
[00:35:40] <AzumaHazuki> point is, Runaway here is on record posting in that forum that Hispanics outbreed "us" (yes, outbreed is the word he used) and I still have tha--nevermind, he did it again
[00:36:03] <AzumaHazuki> that saves me some work and some digging :) thanks
[00:36:13] * Runaway1956 observes AzumaHazuki obsession with him
[00:36:18] <Teckla> I'm kind of anti-hyper-globalization, because of the insane environment harm it does, and the humans rights abuses.
[00:36:48] <Runaway1956> Oh, but slave labor in China doesn't affect liberals here in 'Murica
[00:37:01] <AzumaHazuki> Teckla, you and I have a very different idea of "globalization" than he does. for us it's about human and environmental harm. for him it's tribal. he doesn't want his "kids and grandkids to be third-class citizens to make black and brown people happy"
[00:37:03] <Teckla> I'm pro-choice because I think making abortion illegal is essentially making women slaves. You should be allowed to do what you want with your body.
[00:37:06] <AzumaHazuki> and yes that is an actual quote
[00:37:07] <Runaway1956> We need our iThings
[00:37:15] <Teckla> It's crazy, I know, but I'm against slavery.
[00:37:54] <AzumaHazuki> Teckla: https://soylentnews.org Read this. I blockquoted a giant rant of his and bolded the interesting parts. He still insists this isn't anything bad by the way
[00:37:57] <Runaway1956> Zumi acts retarded because Runaway would rather see ALL Americans as first class citizens
[00:37:57] <AzumaHazuki> just "a warning"
[00:37:59] <systemd> ^ 03Journal of Azuma Hazuki (5086)
[00:38:09] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Oh, I don't care which race "wins" -- I'll be dead. ;)
[00:38:19] <Runaway1956> would rather extend "privileges" to the underclasses, than to surrender "privileges"
[00:38:23] <AzumaHazuki> why does Runaway talk in the third person like Trump?
[00:38:30] <AzumaHazuki> is it the same kind of senile dementia?
[00:38:48] <Runaway1956> Because he can.
[00:39:16] <AzumaHazuki> ah, it's a puerile little temper tantrum thrown by a sad, low-energy loser who's watching his entire worldview get repudiated by reality, right
[00:39:19] <AzumaHazuki> you do you, old man :D
[00:39:45] <Runaway1956> I suppose Bytram will be along shortly, and comment on your attacks on me . . .
[00:39:54] <Runaway1956> every time you show up, it's the same thing
[00:39:56] <AzumaHazuki> "whaaaaa, mommmyyyyy, the mean lady's being mean to meeeeeee"
[00:40:13] <Runaway1956> I've never used the term "lady" when referring to you.
[00:40:20] <AzumaHazuki> he probably will, but you know...i'm not wrong. my tone's not nice, but i'm not wrong <3
[00:40:36] <Runaway1956> Being a bitch is never wrong, is it?
[00:40:42] <AzumaHazuki> and even he seems to know that. he's told me he maintains neutrality as a matter of principle, since he's a staff member
[00:40:49] <Runaway1956> Especially if you're a German Shepard.
[00:41:00] <Runaway1956> So grow up.
[00:41:13] <AzumaHazuki> you know, sometimes you go off on kyonko-level tangents. he's a schizophrenic. what's your excuse?
[00:41:41] <Runaway1956> By "tangents" you mean you can't keep up.
[00:42:04] <AzumaHazuki> no, by "tangents" i mean you randomly change the subject to try and get away from a line of discussion that's making you uncomfortable
[00:42:33] <Runaway1956> No, by tangents, you mean that you can't see how it relates
[00:42:48] <AzumaHazuki> no, by "tangents" i mean you randomly change the subject to try and get away from a line of discussion that's making you uncomfortable
[00:42:54] <AzumaHazuki> you see relations that aren't there
[00:43:01] <AzumaHazuki> that is a sign of early dementia
[00:43:19] <Runaway1956> The current subject is, 'Zumi arrives in the channel, and she goes into rabid bulldog bitch in heat with aids mode
[00:43:35] <raxas> you two should meet, would be a nice couple. or stage actors
[00:43:44] <AzumaHazuki> oooh, someone sounds mad :D
[00:43:52] <Runaway1956> I'd be Punch, and she'd be Judy.
[00:44:00] <AzumaHazuki> i thought i was a German Shepherd? and how does a bulldog get *H*IV?
[00:44:16] <AzumaHazuki> ...on second thought don't tell me how you know. "animal husbandry" does not mean what you think it means, pervert
[00:44:25] <Runaway1956> How would I know how the bulldog got HIV, you probably gave it to her.
[00:44:38] <AzumaHazuki> "no u" LOL
[00:44:46] <AzumaHazuki> dance for me, clownshoes!
[00:45:08] <AzumaHazuki> you've been cucked by the President, by the GOP, and by your own culture. there's nothing left for you but seething, impotent rage
[00:45:09] <Runaway1956> You're dancing quite well alone, I'll sit this one out.
[00:45:33] <AzumaHazuki> what's wrong, two right shoes? :D
[00:46:11] * Runaway1956 dances best with a rifle https://www.youtube.com
[00:46:25] <AzumaHazuki> don't stroke your gun in public, pervert
[00:46:38] <Runaway1956> but you're obsessed with my gun
[00:47:01] <AzumaHazuki> says the guy who constantly challenges the feds to come and take it so you can shoot them
[00:47:03] <AzumaHazuki> moron labe!
[00:47:21] <Runaway1956> Better than your moron labia
[00:47:29] <AzumaHazuki> you really do not like women do you? :)
[00:47:41] <AzumaHazuki> sorry your ex-wife was mean to you, but grow up and get over it
[00:47:50] <Runaway1956> What a stupid thing to say - I like women who aren't bitches
[00:48:07] <Runaway1956> Some of my grandchildren are women
[00:48:21] <AzumaHazuki> LOL "who aren't bitches"
[00:48:27] <AzumaHazuki> sorry to say but it's not 1945 anymore
[00:48:47] <Runaway1956> Attack bitches are fine, if they are kept in the junkyard.
[00:48:59] <Teckla> I'm actually pro-2nd amendment, heh
[00:49:00] <Runaway1956> Obviously, you don't know your place.
[00:49:03] <AzumaHazuki> the other half of the human race has working brains, imagine that your definition of "bitch" is going to be something completely irrelevant to the world isn't it
[00:49:05] <FatPhil> 1890, you mean?
[00:49:11] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, "don't know my place." Keep going, this is hilarious
[00:49:17] <AzumaHazuki> dance, monkey, dance!
[00:49:23] <AzumaHazuki> the whole world has left you behind!
[00:49:42] <Runaway1956> Lemmings going over the cliff leave me behind as well.
[00:49:45] <Teckla> I don't want to see any of the amendments watered down, not any of them, because that's a "slippery slope"
[00:50:08] <Runaway1956> Spot on, Teckla.
[00:50:21] <AzumaHazuki> got bad news for you then...the fourth has had the stuffing kicked out of it. arguably the eighth, if it was ever truly enforced
[00:50:34] <AzumaHazuki> and a whooooole lot of end runs have been done around the ninth and tenth
[00:50:42] <Teckla> Whether I agree with the amendments or not is irrelevant... I agree with most of them, and want to protect them from getting watered down -- so that means they all must be protected.
[00:50:46] <Teckla> Even the ones we dislike.
[00:51:01] <Runaway1956> So get your ass busy trying to restore those rights that have been infringed on
[00:51:15] <AzumaHazuki> teckla, did you know i carried a gun back in PA? :) people make some odd assumptions about me
[00:51:27] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: wow!
[00:51:29] <AzumaHazuki> there are a lot of centrist gun owners. I'd say leftist, but there are no leftists in the US
[00:51:41] <Teckla> I've never owned a gun and have never shot one
[00:51:44] <AzumaHazuki> anywhere in the civilized world I'd be conisdered centrist, maybe slightly right leaning
[00:51:50] <Runaway1956> WTF ever made you think that you are "centrist"?
[00:51:55] <AzumaHazuki> see previous line :)
[00:52:25] <AzumaHazuki> but yeah, I had a little .22 peashooter back in Erie. Never needed to use it, thank goddess
[00:52:25] <Runaway1956> That's bullshit - the "civilized world" doesn't begin and end with Europe.
[00:52:38] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, Canada's part of it too :)
[00:52:39] <Teckla> Runaway1956: Well, to be honest, right now, I feel like the modern right had gone **so** batshit insane that I tend to vote all democrat.
[00:53:03] <Teckla> Cut out the really dangerous cancer first, *then* heal the rest of the patient.
[00:53:16] <AzumaHazuki> teckla, you are not dealing with a reasonable human being here. he's been radicalized. leave him to the rioters, as he's one of them in all but actual ability
[00:53:19] <Runaway1956> Huh - let's wait and see what the Dems do to your civil rights in the next two years
[00:54:14] <Runaway1956> Nationwide lockdown, if you're seen outside your home after 9:00 you'll be shot on sight
[00:54:30] <AzumaHazuki> you have some odd tastes in pornography, Runaway
[00:54:36] <Teckla> Runaway1956: I'm not happy with the dems either. I'm really not. My dem voted are anti-Republican votes due to their super duper crazy extremism these days.
[00:54:39] <c0lo> Teckla, the constitution and the ammendments must be a living document, otherwise the reality will make them as obsolete as the bible. Granted, one needs to be careful about how it is to be adjusted, but staying as they are forever guarantees their death.
[00:54:53] <Runaway1956> That's your Governor Gretchen, not right wing politics 'Zumi.
[00:55:05] <AzumaHazuki> again...you have some weird tastes in porn
[00:55:10] <FatPhil> c0lo++
[00:55:10] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 21
[00:55:16] <AzumaHazuki> and how in hell is she my governor if I live in NYS, not MI?
[00:55:29] <Runaway1956> Maybe a several million people like you and me should have voted 3rd party Teckla
[00:55:51] <AzumaHazuki> join the Patriot Party, Runaway!
[00:55:54] <Teckla> Runaway1956: I couldn't risk it. :(
[00:55:59] <Runaway1956> She's a liberal, you're a liberal, own her 'Zumi
[00:56:18] <AzumaHazuki> please, please, do your part to split the GOP base into two equal-sized warring factions that will never, ever win another election for a half a century
[00:56:43] <Teckla> I'd like a .22 -- after my daughter leaves the nest. I'd like to learn how to shoot and shoot as a hobby. I've been told to start with something "wimpy"
[00:56:49] <AzumaHazuki> the problem with you fanatics is once your vaunted unity collapses, you get left with TWO groups of fanatics who refuse to budge. you'll spend 50 years ripping one another apart
[00:57:08] <Runaway1956> Teckla - never consider the .22 as "wimpy"
[00:57:09] <AzumaHazuki> poetic, fitting, and as predictable as the moon phase
[00:57:10] <Teckla> I've been told if you start with something too powerful, you can learn bad habits that are hard to unlearn.
[00:57:25] <Runaway1956> More people have been killed with .22 than any other caliber in the history of the United States
[00:57:57] <Teckla> Runaway1956: Oh, I guess by wimpy, I mean "not much kickback"
[00:58:25] <Runaway1956> 9mm and .380 and even the .38 have little kick
[00:58:40] <Runaway1956> How big are you?
[00:58:53] <FatPhil> depends on the mass, because physics.
[00:59:12] <Runaway1956> I was only about 120 pounds when introduced to the Colt .45
[00:59:13] <Teckla> I'm about 6'2" and 190 pounds
[00:59:19] <c0lo> Runaway1956, that's for you and your libhurties to infect others https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[00:59:21] <systemd> ^ 03Pandemic Disease: A Past and Future Challenge to Governance in the United States
[00:59:28] <Runaway1956> was actually afraid of it, because everyone said it kicked bad
[00:59:41] <Runaway1956> But, I found that it really doesn't kick much
[00:59:51] <c0lo> Note the "officials playing the role of Texas state government ordered National Guard troops to shoot on sight any person trying to cross over their border with Oklahoma"
[01:00:01] <Runaway1956> Just don't "fight it", let it kick, then put it back on target.
[01:00:11] <raxas> do not underestimate the power of democracy: in Democratic Republic Congo, there are 602 registered political parties
[01:01:08] <AzumaHazuki> everything a loonie like runaway says along those lines is projection. it's what he wants to do or have his tribe do
[01:01:13] <Runaway1956> So, uhhhhh, what is your point c0lo
[01:01:15] <Teckla> Runaway1956: Interesting
[01:02:00] <Runaway1956> It is good advice though to start with a small caliber, learn the "right way", then move up to larger calibers if you so desire
[01:02:21] <Runaway1956> It's the big "boom" that screws most people up
[01:02:29] <Runaway1956> not the kick, so much
[01:03:08] <FatPhil> absolutely hated glocks bexause of the kick, that and the stunted grip.
[01:03:11] <Teckla> I heard it can make you flinch. Heh.
[01:03:35] <Runaway1956> Exactly - and flinching guarantees that you never become a good shot
[01:03:50] <c0lo> Runaway1956, the counterpoint to your "Nationwide lockdown, if you're seen outside your home after 9:00 you'll be shot on sight"
[01:04:14] <c0lo> It is not unprecedented and it is not a Dem thing.
[01:04:36] <FatPhil> c0lo: ignore that, that's just one of his fantasies that he dreams of saving the nation from with his massive weapon.
[01:04:38] <Runaway1956> c0lo, if you've followed my posts, you'll remember that I said we weren't authoritarian enough in the early stages of the pandemic
[01:04:47] <Teckla> With the vaccines rolling out, COVID-19 will be more-or-less resolved soon enough. I don't think there's too much reason to worry.
[01:04:51] <Runaway1956> we FAILED to quarantine, when it mattered most
[01:04:58] <Runaway1956> today, lockdowns are just stooopid
[01:05:10] <c0lo> Teckla, for certain values of soon enough.
[01:05:15] <Teckla> I'm more worried about the unseen long term health effects.
[01:05:34] <c0lo> I doubt that it will get over it by the end of 2021.
[01:05:36] <Runaway1956> That is worrisome . . .
[01:06:08] <Runaway1956> I'm afraid that the COVIDS will transform rational human beings into progressives.
[01:06:13] <Teckla> c0lo: Yeah, it's kind of moving slowly, but they're trying. The companies have a very strong financial incentive to manufacture the doses as quickly as possible. ->
[01:06:48] <Teckla> And politicians have a strong political motivation to roll it out as quickly as possible. I think people are generally doing the best they can.
[01:07:03] <FatPhil> there is competition in the market, but that might decrease if some are found sub-par.
[01:07:19] <FatPhil> some countried have ordered all 4
[01:07:21] <c0lo> Teckla, it's a bit more than a production issue. It's more a logistic one, keeping into account that the immunity wanes over time.
[01:07:22] <Runaway1956> Hey!! Nobody made coffee!
[01:07:38] <raxas> not sure about you people, but we have a 3rd wave of covid here, clearly seen in statistics. same intensity as 2nd wave. lockdowns helped... a bit
[01:07:45] <c0lo> Keeping track for revaccination means a system in place we don't have today.
[01:08:07] <FatPhil> tattoos on foreheads
[01:08:18] <FatPhil> date stamp QR code, simples.
[01:08:26] <c0lo> And I don't think such a system can be rolled out and functioning by the end of 2021.
[01:08:45] <Teckla> c0lo: When it comes to the US, I'm hoping Biden can improve the logistical issues.
[01:09:17] <Teckla> Here in Minnesota, we are having a devastating and terrible third wave.
[01:09:59] <c0lo> And I can hope that the vaccines offer immunity long enough to get 'rona eradicated. But I won't hold my breath.
[01:10:20] <Teckla> I'm not sure it'll ever be eradicated.
[01:10:22] <FatPhil> teckla - actual wave, or just an xmas bump?
[01:10:38] <c0lo> Xmas was more that 3 weeks ago.
[01:11:01] <FatPhil> we had an xmas/ny bump, and will have another russian xmas/ny bump soon.
[01:11:12] <c0lo> Might have started the wave, but that's not enough to keep it going.
[01:11:52] <c0lo> s/going/growing/
[01:11:53] <SedBot> <c0lo> Might have started the wave, but that's not enough to keep it growing.
[01:12:18] <FatPhil> c0lo: 3 weeks lag is perfectly reasonable for getting from meetings to stats. less than you'd expect for death stats.
[01:12:32] <Teckla> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com
[01:12:39] <Teckla> FatPhil: ^
[01:13:19] <FatPhil> Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).
[01:13:19] <c0lo> FatPhil++ - forgot about "make it into death stats"
[01:13:19] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 99
[01:13:33] <Runaway1956> Someone has made coffee.
[01:13:37] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[01:13:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5460
[01:13:42] <Teckla> (Keeping in mind that the last few weeks of data always lags, so we are pretty much at the highest death rate we have seen, still)
[01:15:45] <Teckla> FatPhil: What OS/device/browser are you using? Old Android device or something?
[01:16:27] <Teckla> Minnesota stats are here: https://www.health.state.mn.us
[01:16:28] <systemd> ^ 03Situation Update for COVID-19 - Minnesota Dept. of Health
[01:16:41] <c0lo> Teckla, doesn't seem worse than Halloween... yet https://www.worldometers.info
[01:16:42] <systemd> ^ 03Minnesota Coronavirus: 448,268 Cases and 6,013 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer ( https://www.worldometers.info )
[01:16:59] <Runaway1956> Oh shit - someone says Nostradamus predicts a bad year for 2021
[01:17:12] <Teckla> I generally only look at "deaths" and "hospitalizations" because they seem like they would be the most objective stats
[01:17:48] <raxas> don't even ask what Vanga predicted for 2021
[01:18:14] <FatPhil> teckla - your peak looks like it was mid dec.
[01:18:30] <Runaway1956> If it's going to be that bad, maybe we should just give up, and return to the sea with the dolphins
[01:18:39] <AzumaHazuki> they don't want you
[01:19:01] <Teckla> Dolphins are the assholes of the sea!
[01:19:08] * Runaway1956 would make a beautiful black and white orca
[01:19:25] <AzumaHazuki> leave your furry fantasies out of this please
[01:19:27] <Teckla> Humans are the assholes of the land :)
[01:20:00] * Runaway1956 plans to reincarnate as an orca and terrorize all the tourist traps
[01:20:40] <AzumaHazuki> by the time you've done your sentence in Hell there won't be orcas left, and likely the concept of "tourist trap" will be gone too
[01:20:45] <Runaway1956> Yum, big phat 'Muricans for lunch!
[01:22:03] <raxas> with such a mindset, it's better option to reincarnate as grey alien. they are cetaceans too, after all. much improved techs though
[01:22:27] <Runaway1956> That might be cool
[01:22:40] <Runaway1956> Why do more women get the COVIDS than men?
[01:22:53] <Runaway1956> It's not a drastic difference, but it's there
[01:23:03] <Runaway1956> https://www.health.state.mn.us
[01:23:04] <systemd> ^ 03Situation Update for COVID-19 - Minnesota Dept. of Health
[01:23:13] <Runaway1956> Maybe because more women in health care than men?
[01:24:31] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: you need to control for age - women are older
[01:24:32] <Teckla> I think more women than men get tested, so you end up naturally seeing more C19 cases in women than men. (Corrections welcome)
[01:24:47] <Runaway1956> Makes sense, I guess
[01:25:18] <Teckla> I think it's because women are more drama llamas and thus get tested more, and men are more macho "I'll be fine" fucking morons and thus don't get tested enough.
[01:25:50] <Teckla> Both sexes suck. ;)
[01:25:53] <FatPhil> also why some studies showed smokers are "less susceptible" - the older smokers were much fewer in number. less covid.
[01:26:20] <c0lo> They die before being tested :grin:
[01:26:34] <AzumaHazuki> nope, totally because more women than men in healthcare and that's misandry and sexism they hate men and want men to die wharrrgarble omg
[01:27:09] * Teckla chuckles
[01:27:11] <Runaway1956> FFS zoomie, I get two intelligent if speculative answers, then you chime it
[01:27:42] <Teckla> There's a stupid stereotype in the U.S. that men aren't supposed to be nurses, only women. Not sure what it's like in other countries
[01:27:43] <AzumaHazuki> up a rope, you may piss, so sayeth Yoda
[01:28:02] <AzumaHazuki> in the ass, do not let, the doorknob hit you
[01:28:30] <FatPhil> I only know 2 nurses, both are male. small, sample size is.
[01:28:41] <Runaway1956> That stereotype is weakening . . . I've dealt with three male nurses who seemed quite good at their jobs
[01:29:27] <AzumaHazuki> i meet guys doing nursing at work. I'm always impressed with them too
[01:30:43] <FatPhil> as lng as the person doing the stitches in A&E is female, that's the important thing. Males would rather just use a staple gun.
[01:31:02] <Runaway1956> Hilti brand staple guns, lol
[01:31:12] <Teckla> My wife is a Registered Nurse, so I've known... a lot of nurses.
[01:31:34] <FatPhil> at christmas parties
[01:31:36] <raxas> I'd pick a robot nurse over a nurse dude at any moment, I can tell
[01:31:48] <Teckla> The "nurses should be women" stereotype is mostly the fault of men, though I know some women that feel the same way. It's pretty weird.
[01:32:27] <Runaway1956> Well, early in my life, I thought all teachers were women
[01:32:37] <Runaway1956> I got to junior high, and learned differently
[01:32:41] <Teckla> I generally prefer female healthcare providers as they have seemed more patient.
[01:34:30] <FatPhil> borne out by my stitches
[01:35:36] <FatPhil> I was once complimented on the neatness of the stitches when they were being removed. OK, the (female) nurse who put them in was the one actually being complemented.
[01:36:03] <Runaway1956> Those Mormons are at it again - - -
[01:36:03] <AzumaHazuki> if at all possible i want other women working with/on me. i don't quite trust men in a position like that when i'm that vulnerable
[01:36:06] <Runaway1956> https://kfor.com
[01:36:19] <systemd> ^ 03US soldier arrested in plot to blow up NYC 9/11 Memorial
[01:39:13] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com it's a feature, not a bug!
[01:39:15] <systemd> Submitting "Bugs in Signal, Facebook, Google chat apps let attackers spy on users"...
[01:39:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bugs in Signal, Facebook, Google Chat Apps Let Attackers Spy on Users" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:41:44] <Runaway1956> https://www.freep.com
[01:41:45] <systemd> ^ 03Michigan pot shops giving free joints to customers vaccinated for COVID-19
[01:42:32] <raxas> lol that one oklahoma website bans visitors from europe, kfor.com
[01:44:51] <Runaway1956> That's a shame raxas - it's part of the reason I have a VPN
[01:45:09] <Runaway1956> Tunnel into the states, then ask for the page
[01:45:35] <AzumaHazuki> why would they ban European visitors?
[01:45:42] <AzumaHazuki> sounds like misplaced asspain to me
[01:45:55] <Runaway1956> because of Euro laws about cookies maybe?
[01:46:05] <Runaway1956> What's that called again?
[01:47:46] <FatPhil> GDPR
[01:47:52] <pinchy> jiggaBEULA
[01:48:21] <Runaway1956> Will England keep an equivalent to the GDPR?
[01:48:22] <FatPhil> which just says "German People's Democratic Republic" to me!
[01:48:55] <raxas> Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws.
[01:48:58] <FatPhil> I have no idea, I have almost no ties to the UK any more.
[01:49:11] <AzumaHazuki> the UK's over. this Brexit bullshit ripped it to pieces
[01:49:31] <AzumaHazuki> Britain itself is going to end up an irrelevant nonentity in 20 years
[01:49:31] <raxas> which is a nonsense, a site in oklahoma has no obligation to honor gdpr. they are hiding something stupid
[01:50:16] <Runaway1956> It's a complicated POS raxas - there ARE obligations when dealing with furriners
[01:50:39] <Runaway1956> The US has forgotten that other people have rights that we don't bestow on them
[01:50:44] <FatPhil> a site on OK that is attempting to commerce by serving webpages to the EU is indeed covered by EU law.
[01:51:21] <Runaway1956> Basically, they want to infect your computer with cookies and shit that will inform them of your internet activity
[01:51:44] <Runaway1956> EU says "you can't do that"
[01:51:52] <Runaway1956> so KFOR says "fuck the EU"
[01:51:57] <FatPhil> it's way deeper and broader, it's about all data stored.
[01:52:46] <FatPhil> US sites are free to reject my requests. However, I'm free to call them out on the lies in their justifications.
[01:53:04] <Runaway1956> agreed FatPhil
[01:53:35] <FatPhil> the first lie usually being "you're important to us"
[01:53:36] <raxas> it's all illogical. occam's razor tells me it's just some redneck propaganda which would be too laughable for educated nations
[01:53:36] <Runaway1956> And, I'm free to tunnel around my VPN to get the pages I want - like I do to the UK all the time
[01:53:58] <raxas> maybe flatearthers or someting
[01:54:22] <Runaway1956> No, the flatearhers live in California and Massachussets
[01:54:40] <Runaway1956> In Oklahoma, it's more likely to be lunar landing deniers
[01:54:51] <c0lo> https://abcnews.go.com
[01:54:52] <systemd> ^ 03Biden plans 'dozens' of executive actions in first days
[01:54:56] <raxas> good point
[01:55:06] <FatPhil> and on #shitlords , it seems (he's /ignored, but I see the bot's link resolution)
[01:55:31] <Runaway1956> good nonsense anyway, not sure about good point
[01:55:46] <c0lo> " immediately activate emergency resources to establish thousands of community vaccination centers"
[01:55:53] <FatPhil> Oi! politics over there -------
[01:55:54] <c0lo> Seems like a good start
[01:56:07] <c0lo> That's 'rona.
[01:56:18] <Runaway1956> You talking about Pinchass?
[01:56:23] <c0lo> No different than flatearthers or moon landing deniers
[01:56:30] <raxas> list of biden's upcoming executive orders already leaked somewhere today, I was not brave enough to post that one here
[01:56:46] <FatPhil> he's in my ignore list, so could be him
[01:56:59] <Runaway1956> His first 100 days will include a stroke, I think
[01:57:06] <FatPhil> someone posted some contrail bullshit too today.
[01:57:17] <FatPhil> someone's rabbitholed.
[01:58:35] <c0lo> #politics is bytram and noone else
[01:59:07] <AzumaHazuki> yeah i'm pretty sure no one gives a shit about the alt channels
[01:59:36] <c0lo> Go to #shotlords and you'll see that some do give a shit
[01:59:41] <FatPhil> there is no politics but US election! like a cancer it's grown
[01:59:47] <c0lo> shitlords that is
[02:00:08] <c0lo> US election is oaver.
[02:00:26] <FatPhil> not until its repercussions are over
[02:00:49] <c0lo> Got it. It will be a perpetual 2020, I see.
[02:01:07] <FatPhil> P waves and S waves
[02:01:11] <c0lo> Line 2020-one, 2020-2 aso
[02:02:17] <c0lo> gtg
[02:02:20] <raxas> Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present, controls the past… The mutability of the past is the central tenet of Ingsoc. Past events, it is argued, have no objective existence, but survive only in written records and in human memories. The past is whatever the records and the memories agree upon. And since the Party is in full control of all records, and in equally
[02:02:23] <raxas> full control of the minds of its members, it follows that the past is whatever the Party chooses to make it.
[02:04:37] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: we've still got idiots like runaway insisting it's not :/ i suspect more right-wing terrorism is coming tomorrow and after
[02:08:48] <c0lo> If you have time to listen to the idiots, who am I to deny you the pleasure, AzumaHazuki
[02:08:48] <FatPhil> How many Tim McV's out there, eh?
[02:10:24] <FatPhil> As long as there's an amusing manifesto, that makes up for a lot of the downsides.
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[02:12:38] <FatPhil> $STATUS $PART_OF_DAY everyone!
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[02:25:51] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.wsj.com from the third-party-in-the-US? dept
[02:25:53] <systemd> Submitting "Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Political Party - WSJ.com"...
[02:26:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Political Party - WSJ.com" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:26:42] <AzumaHazuki> I really hope he does :) Runaway and the other revanchist nutbars can join it, while the parts of the GOP who love money more than guns can stay there. and neither party will ever win an election for the next 50 years, leaving the grownups free to try and clean this shit up
[02:27:27] <Runaway1956> Why do all of your wet dreams include me 'zumi?
[02:27:33] <Runaway1956> You're warped.
[02:27:50] <Runaway1956> https://www.bbc.com
[02:27:51] <systemd> ^ 03US: China 'committed genocide against Uighurs'
[02:28:17] <AzumaHazuki> just because i like predicting things and turning out to be right :)
[02:28:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Climate Events of 2020 Show How Excess Heat is Expressed on Earth - https://sylnt.us
[02:28:24] <AzumaHazuki> dance, monkey, dance. you have no choice.
[02:29:05] <Runaway1956> You want me to dance in a little monkey suit, so you can watch my balls swinging?
[02:29:14] <Runaway1956> I'll not dress in your monkey suit, thank you
[02:29:38] <AzumaHazuki> no, no, i want to watch you continue this willful spiral into hilarious insanity
[02:29:51] <AzumaHazuki> just be careful what you post or that thin blue line of yours will strangle you :)
[02:29:59] <Runaway1956> Keep your eye on the White House if you want to see insanity
[02:30:08] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, I have been. it's been nuts all right
[02:30:19] <Runaway1956> BTW, it's not my thin blue line - where did you get that idea?
[02:30:33] <AzumaHazuki> your entire post history...?
[02:30:50] * AzumaHazuki reaches over and honks Runaway's clown nose again, just on general principles
[02:30:56] <Runaway1956> If the public wants uniformed heroes to worship, they can start with EMTs and service members
[02:31:12] <AzumaHazuki> sorry, can't hear you over all the squeaky wonka-wonka
[02:31:20] <Runaway1956> if they don't demand uniforms, I can find just dumb old truck drivers who have done more heroic things than most cops
[02:31:47] * Runaway1956 watches 'zumi dive back into full-retard mode
[02:32:27] <AzumaHazuki> sorry, i'll never go full retard. not even if i had a hundred lifetimes would i ever become as dumb as you
[02:32:45] <AzumaHazuki> don't worry, though, you'll have plenty of company in hell, clownhat :D
[02:33:06] <Runaway1956> Two senile hags reinvent the Russia conspiracy
[02:33:10] <Runaway1956> https://www.zerohedge.com
[02:33:11] <systemd> ^ 03ZeroHedge
[02:33:32] <AzumaHazuki> I love it. You just keep taking the bait, getting more and more pissed off, and posting and saying dumber and dumber stuff
[02:33:43] <AzumaHazuki> i even tell you what i'm doing to you and you keep falling for it
[02:34:40] <AzumaHazuki> Okay, time to go to work and help save more lives and cure more illness. Have fun with your little lump of crazy!
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[02:38:57] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[02:39:01] <systemd> Submitting "Brave becomes first browser to add native support for the IPFS protocol"...
[02:39:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Brave Becomes First Browser to Add Native Support for the IPFS Protocol" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:39:28] <Runaway1956> That woman must be her own biggest heroine.
[02:40:09] <Runaway1956> In practice, IPFS seems pretty awkward - you have to enter an IPFS URL to get anything?
[02:40:23] <Runaway1956> How do you know there are IPFS resources available to start with?
[02:49:53] <Teckla> I'm tempted to download and install Brave to discover the answer to that very question
[03:03:30] <Runaway1956> ipfs://bafybeiemxf5abjwjbikoz4mc3a3dla6ual3jsgpdr4cjr3oz3evfyavhwq
[03:06:45] <Runaway1956> https://brave.com
[03:06:46] <systemd> ^ 03IPFS Support in Brave
[03:08:14] <Runaway1956> Are you on Linux teckla?
[03:08:37] <Runaway1956> I used Debian directions here - https://brave.com
[03:08:37] <systemd> ^ 03Installing Brave on Linux | Brave Browser ( https://brave.com )
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[03:18:01] <Teckla> Runaway1956: Sometimes
[03:37:17] <raxas> without publicly available codebase, brave can be subverted evil by the corpo at any moment. seems like a "selective advertising only" scam
[03:38:10] <Runaway1956> You speak truth raxas. I don't use Brave much, but I am playing with it tonight because of the article.
[03:38:36] <Runaway1956> I don't like Brave enough to make it a daily driver.
[03:39:28] <raxas> ok then. try to find some nasty things inside
[04:48:07] <chromas> isn't brave (and vivaldi) just chromium with extra js?
[04:53:37] <Runaway1956> Yes, chromas - pretty much all browsers today are either chrome/chromium or Firefox - and Chrome outnumbers Firefox by a huge margin
[04:56:10] <Runaway1956> As for IPFS - it isn't very intuitive, as in, I'm not finding IPFS addresses strewn around the intarwebz
[04:56:42] * chromas creates a web browser based on Electron
[04:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As Ajit Pai Exits FCC, Charter Admits Defeat on Petition to Impose Data Caps - https://sylnt.us - 10GB-a-month-should-be-enough-for-anybody
[05:04:06] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh - this may help people who want to mess with it
[05:04:16] <Runaway1956> https://www.reddit.com
[05:04:18] <systemd> ^ 03r/ipfs - List of IPFS websites
[05:05:10] <chromas> I remember freenet
[05:05:27] <chromas> slower than dial-up but at least I learned nine-elevnths was an inside job
[05:06:39] <chromas> or sometimes a document would time out and you'd have to keep reloading to get it to make its way across the nodes or something
[05:06:50] <chromas> the Commodore 64 floppy drive method
[05:08:37] <chromas> oh hey that doi exists now
[05:08:45] <chromas> https://jech.bmj.com
[05:08:47] <systemd> ^ 03Electromagnetic fields, 5G and health: what about the precautionary principle?
[05:14:54] * chromas tries to summon DrPhil
[05:15:10] <Runaway1956> QOTD: Hear about the Californian terrorist that tried to blow up a bus? Burned his lips on the exhaust pipe.
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[07:37:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Monarch Butterfly Population Moves Closer to Extinction - https://sylnt.us - thanks-humans
[07:44:03] * c0lo nods to aristarchus https://www.theguardian.com
[08:08:53] <aristarchus> Interesting.
[08:13:39] <FatPhil> chromas: That "expert" is a lumbar specialist, he knows nothing about EM.
[08:16:14] <FatPhil> He's also retired
[08:16:30] <FatPhil> probably half senile.
[08:16:44] <FatPhil> Here's why the essay involves a conspiracy theory: every major agency has given 5G a clean bill of health, but it's worded as "not converged around a strong warning".
[08:18:50] <FatPhil> his "rapidly emerging evidence" is a paper from 2008 which was criticised at the time
[08:20:01] <FatPhil> All he's got is one paper that says its "possibly carcinogenic", but that is a very mild warning; equivalent "if you overdose rats with it, some become cancer". The list of "possibly carcinogenic" substances is very long.
[08:33:59] <c0lo> FatPhil - maybe we can persuate him to run for the president of some country, the CT and senile seem like two strong points.
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[08:53:41] <c0lo> =submit not-a-flamethrower-throws-some-in-jail https://techcrunch.com
[08:53:42] <systemd> Submitting "Elon Musk said it was ‘Not a Flamethrower’ – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[08:54:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Elon Musk Said It Was ‘Not a Flamethrower’ – TechCrunch" (64p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:07:58] <raxas> not-a-flamethrower thingy is easy buildable in a decent workshop, no need to incriminate self by buying it
[09:09:06] <raxas> keeping it on original WW1 techlevel, this can be with a sodastream bottle propulsion
[09:10:13] <c0lo> I don't get it. Why would I need a long flame throwing blowtorch?
[09:11:15] <c0lo> It's a waste of fuel. Better get it close to where you need the heat and burn it there.
[09:11:25] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[09:11:27] <systemd> Submitting "Verge"...
[09:11:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verge" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:12:40] <raxas> why submiting teh verge and not ifixit directly
[09:16:39] <c0lo> I'm lazy, raxas, please feel free to compensate for my failings
[09:17:21] <c0lo> =submit this-is-your-brain-like-a-yolk https://www.sciencealert.com
[09:17:30] <systemd> Submitting "Warped Egg Yolks Are Helping Scientists Understand How to Prevent Brain Injuries"...
[09:17:50] <c0lo> =doi 10.1063/5.0035314
[09:17:51] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Rungun Nathan. <b>How to deform an egg yolk? On the study of soft matter deformation in a liquid environment</b>, <cite>Physics of Fluids</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/5.0035314">5.0035314</a>)</p>
[09:17:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Warped Egg Yolks are Helping Scientists Understand How to Prevent Brain Injuries" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:18:27] <raxas> https://www.ifixit.com
[09:18:28] <systemd> ^ 03Repair Manuals for Every Thing - iFixit
[09:19:14] <c0lo> ^^^ has videos
[09:19:18] <c0lo> =yt Rk_375SG-kM
[09:19:18] <systemd> No results
[09:19:39] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com
[09:19:40] <systemd> ^ 03Rotational deceleration experiment with egg yolk
[09:23:27] <c0lo> =submit https://www.eurekalert.org
[09:23:31] <systemd> Submitting "A 'super-puff' planet like no other"...
[09:23:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A 'Super-puff' Planet Like No Other" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:24:22] <c0lo> =doi 10.3847/1538-3881/abcd3c
[09:24:24] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/><b>WASP-107b's Density Is Even Lower: A Case Study for the Physics of Planetary Gas Envelope Accretion and Orbital Migration - IOPscience</b>, <cite>The Astronomical Journal</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.3847/1538-3881/abcd3c">10.3847/1538-3881/abcd3c</a>)</p>
[09:29:13] <raxas> Rothschild-Churchill-Rhodes-Rodham/Clinton I didn't knew about this family connection. Now I bet Elon Musk is not far away of this knot
[09:30:06] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nsf.gov
[09:30:06] <FatPhil> Danny Dyer - The Queen - ...
[09:30:09] <systemd> Submitting "Could we harness energy from black holes?"...
[09:30:15] <c0lo> =doi 10.1103/PhysRevD.103.023014
[09:30:18] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Luca Comisso, Felipe A. Asenjo. <b>Magnetic reconnection as a mechanism for energy extraction from rotating black holes</b>, <cite>Physical Review D</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevD.103.023014">10.1103/PhysRevD.103.023014</a>)</p>
[09:30:25] <raxas> that explains not-a-flamethrower a lot
[09:30:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Could We Harness Energy From Black Holes?" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:33:03] <c0lo> =submit https://news.mit.edu
[09:33:05] <systemd> Submitting "Could lab-grown plant tissue ease the environmental toll of logging and agriculture?"...
[09:33:19] <raxas> yes we can, but, just keep the black hole in place, can we
[09:33:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Could Lab-grown Plant Tissue Ease the Environmental Toll of Logging and Agriculture?" (29p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:35:20] <c0lo> The problem with the blackhole is not keeping it in place. Instead is the price of running copper wires over light year distances through the galaxy.
[09:35:49] <raxas> you don't need wires to transfer the electricity
[09:36:02] <c0lo> s/light year/10k ly/
[09:36:02] <SedBot> <c0lo> The problem with the blackhole is not keeping it in place. Instead is the price of running copper wires over 10k ly distances through the galaxy.
[09:36:28] <c0lo> raxas, I'll :grin: for you this time
[09:36:54] <raxas> just accelerate the electrons as a stream and catch them on the other end
[09:36:57] <c0lo> try to not ask me doing it too often
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[09:45:34] <FatPhil> all those electrons would really make your hair stand on end. I'd look like struwwelpeter, or worse!
[09:46:55] <c0lo> Use fedex
[09:47:46] <c0lo> =submit no-boobs-TMB https://theconversation.com
[09:48:51] <c0lo> Yeah, chromas and the bot herd are dead. RIP
[09:49:17] <c0lo> #submit no-boobs-this-time-TMB https://theconversation.com
[09:49:19] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[09:49:44] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[09:50:24] <raxas> and do not underestimate positrons, they are easy to obtain in a workshop too, ~140 ns decay lifetime https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:57:03] <c0lo> #submit ummmm-what? https://www.abc4.com
[09:57:03] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[09:57:28] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[10:05:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GitHub received DMCA from MPA over torrent tracker source code - https://sylnt.us - blob/master/nyaa/templates/home.html
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[11:10:53] <c0lo> hey, chromas, you awake?
[11:14:33] <chromas> no
[11:14:37] <chromas> oh wait
[11:14:43] <chromas> 'sup
[11:15:06] <c0lo> bots are dead to us.
[11:15:12] <chromas> oh yeah
[11:15:25] <chromas> internets went down here for a bit
[11:15:28] <chromas> thanks for the ping
[11:15:35] <c0lo> figured
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[11:17:09] <c0lo> the sad bot too, chromas
[11:17:34] <requerdanos> c0lo s/sad/sed/
[11:17:35] <chromas> it started but my script was calling the wrong thing :)
[11:17:46] <c0lo> s/sad bot/sedbot/
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[11:18:58] <c0lo> idiots will be idioting https://apnews.com
[11:18:59] <systemd> ^ 03Galaxy star Bautista offers reward for Trump carved manatee
[11:33:09] <c0lo> Downing street may be smelling nice after a while https://apnews.com
[11:33:10] <systemd> ^ 03UK seafood trucks protest at Parliament over Brexit red tape
[11:34:12] <c0lo> Trucks owned by U.K. shellfish firms... drove past the Houses of Parliament in central London and parked outside Downing St., home to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
[11:35:26] <chromas> any speakers with countdowns on them?
[11:35:59] <requerdanos> too soon
[11:36:34] <chromas> that's what she said :'(
[11:36:54] <c0lo> I doubt the shellfish will explode this week. Let it there to March tho' and we'll see.
[11:40:30] <c0lo> Keep calm and carry on cursing Boris https://apnews.com
[11:40:31] <systemd> ^ 03Music stars slam UK's 'shameful' failure on EU touring rules
[11:51:01] <raxas> I am waiting on https://bideninaugural.org since yesterday, still nothing happens
[11:51:02] <systemd> ^ 03Watch - bideninaugural.org
[11:51:35] <raxas> but youtube, twitter and facebook is mostly "redacted" on many websites here
[11:51:40] <requerdanos> they are looking for the right fat lady to sing at the event, I think
[11:52:35] <chromas> That's circumferencially enhanced, you insensitive clod!
[11:52:57] <requerdanos> sorry, I must have been misinformed :)
[11:57:18] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[11:57:19] <systemd> ^ 03DC on lockdown and on edge before Biden's inauguration
[11:57:45] <c0lo> Even in the hours before the event, federal agents were monitoring “concerning online chatter,” which included an array of threats against elected officials and discussions about ways to infiltrate the inauguration
[11:58:06] <c0lo> And 12 National Guard members were removed from the security operation after vetting by the FBI, including two who had made extremist statements in posts or texts about Wednesday’s event.
[11:58:38] <chromas> I wonder what percentage of that chatter is undercover feds egging each other on
[11:59:01] <requerdanos> so, they removed the trump-supporting guardsmen based on their nuttiness index?
[11:59:45] <c0lo> the Secret Service issued a bulletin over the weekend... read, “No service members should be posting locations, pictures or descriptions online regarding current operations or the sensitive sites they are protecting” and urged them to stop immediately.
[12:00:03] <requerdanos> service members ought to know better anyway
[12:00:25] <Ingar> wnated to say that, should have already been standard procedure
[12:00:29] <Ingar> ... a century ago
[12:00:32] <requerdanos> when I was in iraq, CNN was reporting my unit was in kuwait :) that's a better way to do it
[12:00:45] <Ingar> weapons of mass destruction
[12:00:51] <Ingar> yaeh we know how well THAT went
[12:00:55] <requerdanos> never saw any, sorry
[12:01:09] <Ingar> np, I was being sarcastic
[12:01:24] <Ingar> I saw the (first) invasion on CNN as a kid
[12:01:33] <chromas> yeah but we have twitter now so century-old rules don't apply :)
[12:01:33] <c0lo> Bottom-line - you aren't getting anything until they get on the show.
[12:01:35] <Ingar> later I learned what kind of misguided propaganda it was
[12:02:08] <requerdanos> Imagine my consternation to be part of that invading force, then later learn what kind of misguided etc.
[12:02:42] <raxas> the fear itself is a sign of state in decoherence. it always been that, for any state in history
[12:03:08] <requerdanos> gee, what I should have said is, the politics chatter we should probably carry to #US_Election
[12:03:45] <chromas> election's done; channel's irrelevant now :D
[12:04:15] <requerdanos> I think there might still be people who don't quite believe the election's done. (though I would hope not)
[12:04:57] <c0lo> Election's over. Now it's a race to undo as much Trump as possible until Biden gets his stroke :grin:
[12:05:25] <chromas> ah, the ol' ctrl-shift-z
[12:07:56] <c0lo> 'bout time too. Even when only considering 'rona.
[12:08:40] <inz> I 'spose Kamala won't be that bad either. (fun fact: kamala is a finnish word for horrible)
[12:16:51] <raxas> she's said to be incarnation of goddess lakshmi, a lotus girl
[12:16:57] <c0lo> How long 'til the show is due to start?
[12:17:32] <raxas> in 2 hours
[12:22:13] <c0lo> thnx.
[12:23:07] <raxas> technical start by FCC orders was 8:00 washington, that's less than hour now. not sure when the ritual itself should start
[12:24:24] <Bytram> =g inauguration start
[12:24:25] <systemd> https://www.npr.org - What Time Does The Inauguration Start? And What Else To Know ...
[12:24:53] <requerdanos> "The inaugural ceremonies will begin with the national anthem and invocation around 11:30 a.m. ET."
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[12:27:58] <raxas> if those illuminati keep correctly to their own magical procedures, a noon is adequate climax to the rite
[12:28:05] <c0lo> I like this - Biden called Trump's decision not to attend "one of the few things he and I have ever agreed on."
[12:28:45] <c0lo> Would have been weird to put some security wardens around Trump.
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[12:28:54] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.washingtonpost.com
[12:29:05] <systemd> ^ 03Tracking the coronavirus vaccine, state by state
[12:30:41] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.washingtonpost.com
[12:30:51] <systemd> ^ 03Tracking the coronavirus vaccine, state by state
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[12:34:55] <c0lo> By the time enough of the population is vaccinated, chances are one gotta start it again - no data on how long the immunity lasts.
[12:36:15] <requerdanos> kind of like painting disneyland, when one team is finishing up, another team is just starting again
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[12:37:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brave Becomes First Browser to Add Native Support for the IPFS Protocol - https://sylnt.us - routing-around-damage
[12:37:49] <c0lo> https://www.goldengate.org
[12:37:51] <systemd> ^ 03Painting the Bridge - Bridge Maintenance
[12:38:01] <requerdanos> just so.
[12:38:31] <c0lo> "Painting the Bridge is an ongoing task and a primary maintenance job."
[12:39:03] <c0lo> It'll last for at least 2021 if not another 3 years.
[12:42:06] <c0lo> https://www.reuters.com
[12:42:07] <systemd> ^ 03UK hospitals like war zones as COVID-19 death toll approaches 100,000
[12:43:58] <raxas> 5-6 months I guess. my mother 80+ gets the flu vac two times a year usually
[12:54:19] <c0lo> =submit in-mice https://www.reuters.com
[12:54:21] <systemd> Submitting "Chinese scientists develop gene therapy which could delay ageing"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[12:54:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Chinese Scientists Develop Gene Therapy Which Could Delay Ageing" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:56:55] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[12:56:56] <systemd> Submitting "Progress reported on one-dose J&J vaccine; COVID-19 reinfections seen as rare"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[12:57:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Progress Reported on One-dose J&J Vaccine; COVID-19 Reinfections Seen as Rare" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:21:53] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[13:21:55] <systemd> ^ 03Starlink Mission
[13:22:44] <Bytram> Looks like the launch went ok, but have not yet deployed the Starlink satellites
[13:23:43] <Bytram> T+21:00
[13:25:54] <Bytram> speed 27,000 kph; alt: 212 km
[13:26:13] <Bytram> will be coasting for a while
[13:28:18] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[13:28:19] <systemd> https://youtube.com - SpaceX Starlink Launch | LIVE (29:27; 2,511 views; 👍277 👎3)
[13:28:31] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[13:28:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Starlink Mission Control Audio (00; 33,156 views; 👍3,630 👎59)
[13:29:27] <Bytram> hmmm, do redirects get counted differently? https://www.youtube.com
[13:29:29] <systemd> ^ 03Starlink Mission
[13:29:42] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[13:29:43] <systemd> https://youtube.com - SpaceX Starlink Launch | LIVE (29:27; 2,529 views; 👍281 👎3)
[13:29:56] <Bytram> guess not
[13:32:15] * Bytram closes youtube to get other stuff done
[13:33:02] <chromas> the yt command is equivalent to the search field in youtube, so putting a url in doesn't guarantee you'll get the right video
[13:33:40] <Bytram> right...
[13:33:44] <Bytram> hmmm
[13:34:58] <Bytram> if systemd recognizes it's an actual URL, could it submit it directly? Or maybe have a different invocation which *expects* a url instead of a search?
[13:35:35] <Bytram> =yts (search) vs =ytu (url)
[13:36:12] * Bytram is thinking out loud -- feel free to shoot it down
[13:37:26] * chromas digs out his ak assault rifle machine gun
[13:37:34] <chromas> it could do that
[13:42:02] * Bytram shudders to think of what it would be like to have to push out stories without that bot
[13:42:05] <Bytram> chromas++
[13:42:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 325
[13:43:44] * Bytram sometimes wonders how /. does it? Editors get a "shift" of stories to fill and have to go it alone?
[13:44:45] * Bytram wants to procrastinate and hang around here, but has stuff to do. :/
[13:44:48] <Bytram> laters!
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[14:22:26] <raxas> countdown is 10 minutes
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[14:43:29] <raxas> they are shifting the timer, now is 17 minuts
[14:44:19] <raxas> may become never this way :]
[15:05:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First CubeSat with a Hall-Effect Thruster has Gone to Space - https://sylnt.us - bots-in-space?
[15:27:14] <Bytram> time to get going -- hope to be back in a few hours
[16:12:38] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[16:12:39] <systemd> ^ 03Airliner Pilot Says Jet Pack Guy Over Los Angeles Looked Just Like This Crazy Drone
[16:13:05] <Runaway1956> Tempted to sub that - I would if it were more than speculation
[16:14:46] <Runaway1956> The video is pretty convincing though
[16:14:49] <Runaway1956> https://youtu.be
[16:14:53] <systemd> ^ 03SPECTACULAR STUNNING !!! RC FLYING MAN IN SCALE 1:1 FLIGHT DEMONSTRATION ( https://www.youtube.com )
[16:21:08] <raxas> the top guy looks disoriented, stumbling
[16:26:29] <Runaway1956> Which top guy, raxas ??? You mean Biden? He has been disoriented and stumbling for years now.
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[16:28:11] <Runaway1956> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[16:28:12] <systemd> Submitting "Rocket Lab completes its first rocket launch of 2021 and 18th mission overall – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[16:28:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Rocket Lab Completes its First Rocket Launch of 2021 and 18th Mission Overall – TechCrunch" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:29:30] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.washingtontimes.com
[16:29:32] <systemd> Submitting "No pardons by Donald Trump for Edward Snowden, Julian Assange"...
[16:29:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03No Pardons by Donald Trump for Edward Snowden, Julian Assange" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[16:33:15] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[16:33:17] <systemd> Submitting "Verge"...
[16:33:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verge" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:36:11] <Runaway1956> War crimes? This one is worth watching!
[16:36:27] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.rt.com
[16:36:30] <systemd> Submitting "Serbian lawyers to file first lawsuits against NATO over use of depleted uranium munitions in 1999"...
[16:36:51] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Serbian Lawyers to File First Lawsuits Against NATO Over Use of Depleted Uranium Munitions in 1999" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:42:38] <Runaway1956> Penis.
[16:42:45] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[16:42:47] <systemd> Submitting "'Old murderer' bug died 50 million years ago, fossilized with its penis intact"...
[16:43:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Old Murderer' Bug Died 50 Million Years Ago, Fossilized With its Penis Intact" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:50:41] <pinchy> https://www.vice.com
[16:50:42] <systemd> ^ 03'Joints For Jabs:' This Group Wants to Give You Weed With Your Covid Vaccine
[17:47:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Accident which Made the WRT54G Legendarily Popular - https://sylnt.us
[18:31:46] <bacteria> coffee++
[18:31:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5461
[18:31:51] <bacteria> satan++
[18:31:51] <Bender> karma - satan: 5
[18:32:28] <bacteria> is Runaway1956 == Aristarchus?
[18:33:53] <Runaway1956> Aristarchus is my psychotic side, lol
[19:29:08] <FatPhil> so do you have anything apart from the 2 psychotic sides?
[19:33:36] <raxas> I've seen that. or something very similar. two guys in a room, sitting at ends of the same desk, sharing a kettle of coffee, engaged in a brutal flamewar escalation on a mailing list
[19:34:38] <raxas> in a digital world, everything is possible
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[19:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://hackaday.com
[19:40:49] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:41:14] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[19:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://notthebee.com
[19:47:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[19:47:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[19:49:20] <z> systemd, ping
[19:50:00] <z> hm
[19:50:25] <z> box is still running and I can ping it, but it doesn't let connections in anymore
[19:50:52] <z> probably Rus^H^H^HChinese haxx
[19:51:03] <z> SedBot,
[19:51:27] <z> oh
[19:51:29] <z> =ping
[19:51:29] <systemd> Pong!
[19:54:16] <z> So I plug in a keyboard & monitor and they don't do anything—no Dumlock light or anything
[19:57:07] <z> in a totally shocking turn of events, sysreq+b dindu nuffin
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[20:00:48] <z> and who's there taking up all the disk and cpu upon reboot? none other than my best buddy systemd-coredump
[20:03:21] <Runaway1956> systemd - making life better for all of us
[20:03:49] <z> It looks like mariadb died over and over
[20:03:56] <z> =yt madonna over and over
[20:04:02] <z> oh yeah
[20:04:20] <z> seeing some disk errors. jesus wept
[20:04:54] <Runaway1956> Can Jesus resurrect the disk?
[20:05:05] <Runaway1956> Will it take three days?
[20:06:25] <z> I doubt he'll heal my rusty disc; he won't even take the wheel
[20:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt cleetus take the reel
[20:09:55] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Tim Hawkins - Cletus Take the Reel
[20:16:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elephants Look Tiny from Space, but Scientists Figured out how to Count Them - https://sylnt.us - peeking-at-pachyderms
[20:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be able to use their fingers. they're pretty endangered, no?
[20:19:31] <z> #yt kids in the hall head crush
[20:19:31] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Kids In The Hall - Head Crusher: Rival
[20:20:53] <z> Everything I could ever want is right inside the systemd journal: kernel messages, sql errors, every little burp in and out of the xmpp server—everything except what I need
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[20:21:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> a beer?
[20:21:53] <FatPhil> it's past 5 here, so why not?
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[20:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt five o'clock somewhere
[20:22:09] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Alan Jackson, Jimmy Buffett - It&#39;s Five O&#39; Clock Somewhere (Official Music Video)
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[20:24:03] <chromas> I was summoned by systemd-bitchingd
[20:24:40] <chromas> Just realized mariadb was still crashing over and over this whole time
[20:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt my maria
[20:26:04] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Brooks &amp; Dunn - My Maria (Official Video)
[20:28:47] <chromas> well at least it wasn't my sharona
[20:28:51] <chromas> that song should be murdered
[20:29:06] <chromas> along with sean kingston's beautiful girls
[20:29:12] <chromas> some songs just shouldn't exist
[20:30:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt pumped up kicks
[20:30:28] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Foster The People - Pumped up Kicks (Official Music Video)
[20:32:25] <chromas> High-pitch voices, excessive reverb, band pass filter...all the makings of hipster music
[20:33:26] <requerdanos> that's a great description of diana ross and the supremes under phil specter
[20:34:11] <chromas> Was it hipster music or do I need to refine my definition?
[20:35:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no idea. i first heard it when some chick was digging on it. she lost her cheese when i told her it's a school shooting song, like two days after a school shooting.
[20:37:05] <chromas> Did you help her find her qis?
[20:37:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i had a pretty good laugh
[20:37:52] <chromas> "I accidentally played this song in class now everyone’s tryna be friends with me for some reason. Weird"
[20:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, unless it's louie louie or really good blues, not knowing the lyrics to a song you like isn't excusable.
[20:38:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt louie louie
[20:38:45] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Kingsmen - Louie Louie
[20:46:43] <FatPhil> FUCK!
[20:47:01] <FatPhil> I've just nuked my crontab, any idea where I can look to recreate it?
[20:47:30] <FatPhil> auth.log shows me when I was doing stuff, but I don't know exactly what I was doing (set things up sometimes years back)
[20:48:12] <chromas> You could check your backup but you'll have to check your crontab to find out where the backups go
[20:48:20] <requerdanos> `crontab -e` will cheerfully create you an empty one
[20:48:35] <raxas> depending on which sedbot you use, there may be some danger in it. there are some sedbots on github I would not touch with a baton
[20:49:38] <chromas> raxas: s/sedbot/crond/g
[20:49:38] <SedBot> <chromas> <raxas> depending on which crond you use, there may be some danger in it. there are some cronds on github I would not touch with a baton
[20:50:16] SedBot is now known as cron
[20:50:25] <raxas> lol
[20:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, unless you have backups or extremely verbose logging, you're just fucked.
[20:56:55] <FatPhil> I'm fucked
[20:57:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> personal or system?
[20:58:05] <FatPhil> looking at auth.log, i've worked out the time of day one script ran: 5 1-22/3 * * *, but fuck knows the rest of the line
[20:59:03] <FatPhil> personal, I think it only had 3 jobs in it, but I have no idea what they were now - they were quite parameter heavy, IIRC
[20:59:10] <chromas> No crontab.old or anything?
[20:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, my crontab has nothing in it except SHELL,PATH,MAILTO,HOME
[20:59:23] <FatPhil> where are the files stored?
[20:59:24] <chromas> can you undelete?
[21:00:01] <requerdanos> debian keeps them in /var/spool/cron I think
[21:00:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> all the commands are stored in /etc/cron.foo
[21:00:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> daily/hourly/weekly/etc...
[21:00:53] <chromas> Here lies the danger of long-running systems—you forget how they work :)
[21:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> not if you break them regularly
[21:01:33] <chromas> if it's long-running then you haven't broken it enough. keep going
[21:01:55] <FatPhil> requerdanos++ /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[21:01:55] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 20
[21:02:22] <FatPhil> als, no .old
[21:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing in /var/spool/cron/crontabs for me
[21:03:17] <FatPhil> It's late, I'm tired (hence typing ``crontab -r'' to 'read' the crontab, rather than ``-l''), I'll fix it tomorrow
[21:03:57] <FatPhil> I know one of them runs on thursday mornings, ...
[21:08:56] <FatPhil> woh - syslog has the commands!
[21:09:04] <FatPhil> I was grepping *.log, not *log
[21:09:29] <Fnord666> Not only does Linux give you enough rope, it gives you enough that you hit the ground/water first!
[21:10:28] <Fnord666> Windows is kind enough to tie the rope around your neck and give you a gentle shove.
[21:12:02] <chromas> They're both great though in that the event that causes a pc to crash usually doesn't show up in the logs on either system
[21:13:16] <FatPhil> cross fingers - I think i've rebuilt it!
[21:14:00] <FatPhil> it looks like I had put a wrapper shell script in the relevant directories so that cron itself wouldn't need to know what other paramerters were required
[21:14:12] <FatPhil> cross fingers, I'll find out in 3 hours....
[21:14:22] <FatPhil> thanks for at least teddy-bearing
[21:15:56] <FatPhil> I'm apparently not the only one who's complained about -e being a nuke with no confirmation. It's right next to -e, for example, so can be fat fingered easily.
[21:16:17] <FatPhil> s/-e/-r/
[21:16:17] <cron> <FatPhil> I'm apparently not the only one who's complained about -r being a nuke with no confirmation. It's right next to -e, for example, so can be fat fingered easily.
[21:16:34] <FatPhil> see how easy it is! completely non-deliberate, I promise you
[21:17:21] <FatPhil> =yt doug wood dragracer
[21:17:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Doug Wood Band "Drag Racer" (1976) (02:30; 131,120 views; 👍906 👎35)
[21:19:37] <pinchy> gotta wear 2 masks!
[21:22:40] <chromas> there'll be an additional-mask requirement every six months from now on
[21:23:34] <chromas> The masks will stack up like license plate renewal stickers
[21:23:53] <FatPhil> what's wrong with masks? https://www.etsy.com
[21:23:55] <systemd> ^ 03Sexy mask | Etsy
[21:24:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> niiiice
[21:24:54] <chromas> https://www.mic.com
[21:24:55] <systemd> ^ 03It's time to double-mask it, experts say
[21:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima get some of those for TR's kids
[21:55:35] <raxas> I knew it's all a trick of vampires hiding between us
[21:57:16] <raxas> velvet and lace charming though
[21:59:25] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[21:59:28] <systemd> ^ 03In The Year 2525 - aFanMade- music video clip in 2020
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[22:44:58] <raxas> perhaps doublethink will protect us even better than double mask
[22:46:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Last Minute Pardons: No Snowden or Assange, Yes to Anthony Levandowski - https://sylnt.us
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[23:20:24] <FatPhil> Woo woo! 1st cronjob fired perfectly.
[23:27:55] <chromas> my postfix is rejecting emails now after updates. I blame your deleted crontab