#soylent | Logs for 2021-03-16
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[00:10:22] <Bytram> Runaway1956: I would thing it'd be the other way around? I thought Jimmy Carter had nuke experience in the nay and that, as commander in chief, he'd be the one to tell Rickover what to do
[00:10:33] <Bytram> s/nay/navy/
[00:10:34] <SedBot> <Bytram> Runaway1956: I would thing it'd be the other way around? I thought Jimmy Carter had nuke experience in the navy and that, as commander in chief, he'd be the one to tell Rickover what to do
[00:36:45] <Runaway1956> Jimmy Carter wasn't always a mature man - before he was a semi-successful peanut farmer, he was Rickover's Gofer boy
[00:37:28] <Runaway1956> Rickover was an ancient old man before I joined the Navy - Carter was much younger
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[00:47:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Outgoing Panasonic CEO Urges Company to Reduce Reliance on Sales to Tesla - https://sylnt.us
[00:47:37] <AzumaHazuki> speaking of, my Panasonic RP-HTX7 headphones are going >< it's my fault, i got the wires caught on too many things too many times
[00:48:08] <AzumaHazuki> am looking into a nice set this time. narrowed the field to Audiotechnica ATH-M50X,Audiotechnica Pro5x, and Kingston Cloud Alpha
[01:08:29] <Runaway1956> someone tell AzumaHazuki that her speakers need a mute button
[01:24:16] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Wish I could help ya. I've got some ~40 year old AKG "K 240 Monitor", 600 ohm, over-the-ear headphones that cost me ~$100 way-back-then. Has a 1/4" plug, so needs an adapter these days, but otherwise work great!
[01:25:07] <Bytram> =g "AKG" "K 240"
[01:25:08] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - AKG Pro Audio K240 STUDIO Over-Ear, Semi-Open ... - Amazon.com
[01:26:25] <AzumaHazuki> i just ordered a Cloud Alpha. it is so ricer-looking for me, but the price, features, and build are the best deal i found
[01:26:53] <AzumaHazuki> apparently it sounds almost as good as the M50X (a little muddier and more bass-forward) but has mostly aluminum construction and the same detachable cables
[01:28:24] * Bytram was just reading the Amazon copy -- yep, those are the ones I've got. Back in the day, I set up and mixed concerts. Lost a bit of my hearing over the years, but far and away there were the best I could find for the price back then. Still highly recommended!
[01:31:15] <Bytram> forgot to mention: I found them to be *extremely* comfortable, too!
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[01:46:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Concept From Physics Called Negentropy Could Help Your Life Run Smoother - https://sylnt.us
[01:56:26] <Bytram> !whodown entropy
[01:56:26] <Bender> downers of entropy are: FatPhil: -1
[01:56:43] <Bytram> !whoup entropy
[01:56:43] <Bender> nobody upped entropy yet
[01:57:02] <Bytram> yours++
[01:57:02] <Bender> karma - yours: 0
[01:57:08] <Bytram> !whoup yours
[01:57:08] <Bender> uppers of yours are: Bytram: 1
[01:57:19] <Bytram> yours--
[01:57:19] <Bender> karma - yours: -1
[01:57:22] <Bytram> !whoup yours
[01:57:22] <Bender> uppers of yours are: Bytram: 1
[01:57:50] <Bytram> didn't quite work as intended, oh well
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[03:01:55] <c0lo> https://pbs.twimg.com
[03:17:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Claims Seller of Encrypted Phones Violated Racketeering and Drug Laws - https://sylnt.us - what-4th-amendment?
[05:46:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drought in Taiwan Could Cause Shortages of Single Board Computers and Other Products - https://sylnt.us
[08:26:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Shocking" Genetic Data Suggest Ebola Lurked in Survivor for 5-6 Years - https://sylnt.us - unwanted-surprises
[08:42:54] <Ingar> c0lo: that bear clearly couldn't aim
[09:19:14] <chromas> huh, I didn't know we started DST already
[09:20:26] <chromas> it's like the superbowl. literally nobody mentioned it at any time so it just kind of went by unnoticed
[09:26:03] <FatPhil> where are the irc logs?
[09:26:13] <chromas> Loggie:
[09:26:36] * chromas waits for FatPhil ti disprove him
[09:33:29] <Ingar> Bytram: looks like AKG stopped making affordable, decent headphones
[09:35:09] <chromas> Thanks, Samsung
[10:33:08] <Ingar> chromas: heh, I had no idea. but the tiemline fits perfectly
[10:34:03] <Ingar> (I have an AKG K242)
[10:34:55] <chromas> So are those $69 ones Bytram linked crappier than the classic ones?
[10:36:55] <Ingar> oh there actually is a K240 MKII
[10:38:49] <Ingar> and I can get it with a 50% discount
[10:46:59] <FatPhil> I need some replacement Sennheisers, apparently you can't get spare parts for 30+ year old models any more.
[10:56:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - About 7 Interstellar Objects Passing Through the Inner Solar System Every Year - https://sylnt.us - wave-as-they-pass
[10:57:15] <FatPhil> I heard rumours that they'd sold out in that time, I don't have particular brand loyalty apart from loving the single pair I've ever owned.
[10:59:13] <FatPhil> then again. my receiver has slowly been going kaput over the last few months (in particular the digital part, thanks complete lack of graceful degradation!). So the next expense is to replace that. Currently watching movies through crappy TV speakers :((
[11:04:30] <chromas> You just need a different set of cans. From Sennheisers to Anheusers.
[11:18:04] <FatPhil> Work for your plaudits, now make a joke about my half-dead amp, it's an Onkyo
[11:20:12] <FatPhil> it's probably only 2% dead, it's just that the bit that's dead is the HDMI pathway, which is the *only* thing I use it for.
[11:21:04] <chromas> Wasn't Onkyo the woman who saved us from the Beatles making more shitty music?
[11:21:24] <FatPhil> oh, no
[11:23:45] <chromas> oh whoops, I should've said something about Onkyo Drift...nah, I got nothin'
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[11:47:42] <Ingar> I so hate people who come to my office to turn on the light and then leave
[11:56:41] <Ingar> in other news, it's now official: Belgian courts do not recognise rights of future generations
[12:04:59] <FatPhil> in what respect?
[12:10:35] <AzumaHazuki> ahh, why did i schedule hair care for the morning after/of a heavy shift? sleeeeeepy~
[12:20:04] <c0lo> Heavy, very heavy, but worth the time reading it https://www.theatlantic.com
[12:20:04] <systemd> ^ 03How to Put Out Democracy’s Dumpster Fire
[12:22:28] <Ingar> FatPhil: Climate movement sued govt for inaction, court dismissed case because 'future generations' are not a legal entity
[12:22:47] <Ingar> (lower court, actually)
[12:26:09] <Ingar> correction the case was not dismissed, future generations is the argument the govt is using to get the case dismissed
[12:27:37] <AzumaHazuki> they have a point. not like some nebulous entity that purportedly represents a bunch of people is actually a legal entity...like a corporation or something. that'd just be silly. and stupid. and actively harmful.
[12:29:24] <Ingar> oth there is this detail the climate movement keeps ignoring
[12:29:37] <Ingar> why keep on asking people for solutions, if they're the cause in the first palce
[12:32:50] <c0lo> Ingar, because if they are not part of the solution, nothing will change.
[12:33:00] <AzumaHazuki> this shift was stupid heavy @_@ two patients were sucking down every pressor and catecholamine we had like lemonade, another was on every sedative in the house including IV barbituates which I'd never seen before...
[12:33:20] <AzumaHazuki> tube system went down, med-picker robot stopped communicating with the server so unit doses had to be manually unloaded
[12:33:28] <Ingar> c0lo: but experience teaches us, that asking nicely doesnt solve anything either
[12:33:56] <c0lo> Ingar, that's our only hope.
[12:34:05] <c0lo> As slim as it may be.
[12:34:06] <Ingar> c0lo: revolution :)
[12:34:35] <c0lo> Revolution against all of us that contribute to the problem?
[12:35:28] <c0lo> Us revolutioning against us?
[12:35:31] <Ingar> revoluton against those that force all of us to contribute to the problem
[12:35:56] <Ingar> and capitalism ofc
[12:36:03] <Ingar> mostly that
[12:36:28] <c0lo> That revolution is simple, simplistic and stupid: ignore them.
[12:36:52] <AzumaHazuki> capitalism doesn't have to be evil, either. its problem is that it tends toward short-term gratification (and therefore appeals to the worst kind of people)
[12:37:08] <Ingar> capitalism violates the laws of conservation of energy
[12:37:13] <AzumaHazuki> simply considering the environment and peoples' happiness a type of capital would go a long way toward making the system self-correcting
[12:37:14] <c0lo> "The resulting frustration has given new impetus to at least 39 so-called right-to-repair bills in 25 states."
[12:37:17] <Ingar> so you either are a scientist or you believe in capitalism
[12:37:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nextgov.com
[12:37:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pandemic Drives Phone, Computer ‘Right-to-Repair’ Bills" (34p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:37:50] <AzumaHazuki> well, yes, entropy is always going to be a limit. we're going to run into problems of human nature long before that though
[12:38:03] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[12:38:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Spain to Launch Trial of Four-day Working Week" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:39:26] <c0lo> Good news, Ingar, the EU politicians revolts for you.
[12:39:33] <c0lo> =submit https://fortune.com
[12:39:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Gig Economy: Europe Tells Companies to Negotiate With Workers or Face New Laws" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:39:52] <AzumaHazuki> i would happily do 4 10s. 2 more hours makes essentially no difference after you've already done 8, just need another cup of tea
[12:42:12] <c0lo> The endgame American Dream https://pbs.twimg.com
[12:43:37] <Ingar> Exploitation begins at home!
[12:44:31] <Ingar> AzumaHazuki: I assume, you're still young? :)
[12:44:45] <AzumaHazuki> 33 this August
[12:45:06] <AzumaHazuki> so, kind of? but joints are starting to ache now and then and i'm a liiiiittle more aware of where the nearest place i can take a whizz is
[12:45:32] <progo> lose weight now
[12:45:33] <progo> :^)
[12:45:41] <progo> that's what my doctors were always nagging me about
[12:47:05] <progo> I'm about 41 and I haven't been able to work effectively on personal projects outside my normal '40 hours', for years
[12:47:33] <progo> 10 hours × 4 days is going to be more like 6 actual hours × 4 days, for me
[12:48:46] <AzumaHazuki> i'm a bit under 130lb at 5'10"
[12:48:53] <c0lo> =submit https://www.eff.org
[12:48:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Sacramento Might be Undergoing a Broadband Policy Reboot" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:49:03] <progo> AzumaHazuki: awesome. nevermind
[12:49:26] * c0lo lb ' " - jeez!
[12:49:31] <AzumaHazuki> not very strong. have a bad feeling i'm "thin outside, fat inside." so at some point i may begin low-intensity strength training
[12:49:41] <AzumaHazuki> (59kg at 178cm, c0lo)
[12:50:18] * c0lo approves
[12:50:26] <progo> my company has a trend of employees negotiating a 32 hour (4 days) work week with HR
[12:50:40] <AzumaHazuki> my upper body is really weak, though my legs are strong and weirdly well-defined. have a habit of squatting a lot, a real gopnitsa heels-to-ground squat
[12:51:02] <AzumaHazuki> just need a tracksuit and a bag of cheap sunflower seeds to complete the look :v
[12:51:17] <progo> AzumaHazuki++
[12:51:17] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 64
[12:51:48] <AzumaHazuki> i actually do swear a blue streak in Russian (see above re: tube station and med robot) at work and am very glad no one can understand it...
[12:52:53] <AzumaHazuki> there was a whooooole lot of "oii, peeeez-dyetz!" this morning ><
[12:53:09] <Ingar> AzumaHazuki I'm a decade older, I can't do 10 hrs any more
[12:53:21] <Ingar> even 8 hours a day is becomming quite difficult
[12:53:31] <c0lo> FatPhil, that's for your pie:
[12:53:33] <AzumaHazuki> it depends partly on what the job is i would think
[12:53:39] <c0lo> =submit https://www.fastcompany.com
[12:53:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03For the First Time in Years, Someone is Building a Web Browser From Scratch" (37p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:54:05] <AzumaHazuki> Oooh, this is good news. we desperately need competition in this market
[12:54:10] <progo> I sometimes think I'd take a salary cut to go back to something easy like help desk
[12:54:15] <Ingar> AzumaHazuki: I theory, I could sit in my lazy chair all day. (In practice not so much ofc)
[12:54:53] <AzumaHazuki> Ingar: I'm moving like 3/4 of the time. there is some chair time (usually a 30 minute break though ofc not today...) and while entering med orders, but other than that i'm always moving
[12:56:33] <progo> I hope that "Flow" browser is a success. most browsers are based on Google code. Mozilla is a effectively a Google subsidiary that does whatever Google wants
[12:56:52] <c0lo> =submit still-crazy-world https://torrentfreak.com
[12:56:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Adobe Goes After 27-Year Old 'Pirated' Copy of Acrobat Reader 1.0 for MS-DOS * TorrentFreak" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:57:01] <progo> the same quarter that Chrome says "no more third party cookies [because we have a better walled garden way to track users]" Firefox did the same thing
[12:57:40] <Ingar> I heard firefox is going for another round of fuck-up-the-ui
[12:57:51] <progo> sure, why not?
[12:57:51] <AzumaHazuki> oh bugger, not again
[12:58:01] <progo> and they'll probably add some more woke to Firefox this year
[12:58:21] <progo> I'm expecting non-trojan-horse releated site censorship in Firefox and Chrome this year
[12:58:23] <Ingar> they'll add "Rainbow mode"
[12:59:42] <c0lo> Moar good news https://www.theguardian.com
[12:59:43] <systemd> ^ 03Steve Bannon loses battle to set up rightwing political academy in Italy
[13:01:08] <c0lo> The Boris is pissed off https://www.businessinsider.com
[13:01:09] <systemd> ^ 03Boris Johnson to ban protests that are noisy or cause 'annoyance' ( https://www.businessinsider.com )
[13:02:33] <AzumaHazuki> ugh, someome chuck that fat greasy cryptofascist (and not even so much of the crypto) in the incinerator already...
[13:02:42] <AzumaHazuki> the UK's jumped the shark between him and Brexit
[13:15:03] <AzumaHazuki> okay, time to go get these split ends removed. i'm starting to look like Sadako leaning out of the TV here...
[13:15:55] <Bytram> =g Sadako
[13:15:55] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Sadako Yamamura - Wikipedia
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[13:25:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SEAKR Wins $60 Million DARPA Contract to Demonstrate Autonomous Satellite Operations - https://sylnt.us
[15:04:20] <bacterium> oh it was connie@rk4n3.org
[15:04:24] <bacterium> mt
[15:06:50] <FatPhil> someone should tell steve bannon that dignitas is already established in switzerland, he should just sign up there.
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[15:55:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Develops AI to Invent New Antibiotics – and It's Made Two Already - https://sylnt.us
[16:07:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Happens in Your Brain When You 'Lose Yourself' in Fiction - https://sylnt.us - pikachu?
[17:35:29] <chromas> mmm...tacos https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[18:24:41] <chromas> waffles++
[18:24:41] <Bender> karma - waffles: 10
[18:26:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Passes New Regulation Banning "Dark Patterns" Under Landmark Privacy Law - https://sylnt.us
[20:26:08] <Runaway1956> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[20:26:09] <systemd> ^ 03Members of the Guam National Guard Pay GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene a Visit After She Called the US Territory a Foreign Land (VIDEO)
[20:55:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why is "Legitimate Interest" a Non-story? - https://sylnt.us - dark-pattern
[21:19:43] <pinchy> yall save your globes, theyll be collectors items soon
[23:25:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pandemic Drives Phone, Computer "Right-to-Repair" Bills - https://sylnt.us - reduce-reuse-REPAIR-recycle
[23:26:30] <bacterium> craaaap.... morgan is gonna flip a lid
[23:26:33] <bacterium> MT!
[23:35:35] <Bytram> Morgan? Is he the pirate with the spiced rum?
[23:37:01] <FatPhil> drink a fine!
[23:37:30] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/ /, get /
[23:37:30] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> drink, get a fine!
[23:38:10] <Bytram> =g captain morgan spiced rum
[23:38:11] <systemd> https://www.captainmorgan.com - Captain Morgan Original Spiced Rum | Captain Morgan
[23:38:22] <Bytram> =w captain morgan spiced rum
[23:38:23] <systemd> Captain Morgan is a brand of flavored rums (including, in Europe, some rum-flavored "premium spirit drinks") produced by British alcohol conglomerate Diageo - https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:38:42] <FatPhil> Straw poll on language again: Is "gunship diplomacy" the form of the phrase used all over the US, and does "gunboat diplomacy" sound ok/odd/wrong/waaat?!?!? ?
[23:39:16] <FatPhil> =g plantation rum
[23:39:17] <systemd> https://www.plantationrum.com - Plantation Rum
[23:53:28] <Bytram> =yt Wat?
[23:53:29] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Skeletor says "wat" (18; 7,196,721 views; 👍255,312 👎1,525)
[23:53:34] <Bytram> nope
[23:53:41] <Bytram> =g Wat?
[23:53:42] <systemd> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com - Wat
[23:53:52] <FatPhil> Bytram++
[23:53:52] <Bender> karma - bytram: 162
[23:53:57] <Bytram> yep, I think that's the one!
[23:53:58] <FatPhil> if that's the talk I think it is
[23:54:40] <FatPhil> Everyone who designs a language should be forced to have it put under such scrutiny by evil pedants before they release it.
[23:55:45] <Bytram> As for Gunship Displomacy, it's not a phrase I often have occasion to use, but (1) it seems right to me, and (2) reminds me how the US was involved in Panama and the construction of the Panama Canal.
[23:56:25] <Bytram> FatPhil: I might have some resemblance to those qualities. ;)
[23:57:22] <FatPhil> n.d. exact 50/50 mix of https://www.plantationrum.com with https://www.rochester.ee
[23:57:24] <systemd> ^ 03Plantation Original Dark — Plantation Rum
[23:57:26] <systemd> ^ 03Rochester Ginger
[23:59:16] <Bytram> "Gluten Free and suitable Vegans."
[23:59:23] <Bytram> o_O
[23:59:33] <Bytram> "Gluten Free and suitable [for] Vegans."
[23:59:49] <Bytram> ;)