#soylent | Logs for 2021-06-24
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[00:03:42] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.eff.org
[00:03:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How Big ISPs are Trying to Burn California’s $7 Billion Broadband Fund" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:10:57] <Runaway1956> https://www.nytimes.com
[00:10:59] <systemd> ^ 03Scientist Finds Early Virus Sequences That Had Been Mysteriously Deleted
[00:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ULA's Vulcan Rocket Could be Delayed by BE-4 Engine Problems - https://sylnt.us
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[02:09:43] <tedious> https://arstechnica.com
[02:09:54] <tedious> Poor guy. :(
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[02:42:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[02:46:46] <c0lo> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[02:47:17] <c0lo> dead bot is dead
[02:47:34] <c0lo> #submit https://www.businessinsider.com.au
[02:47:56] <c0lo> look, more dead bots
[02:48:10] <requerdanos> You're two for two.
[02:48:20] <c0lo> #asub https://www.businessinsider.com.au
[02:49:10] <c0lo> I see dead bots everywhere. And it's not even Friday 13.
[02:51:53] <c0lo> Must've have dies from the exhaustion of the longest northern summer.
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[03:37:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Billionaire Elon Musk Lives in a $69k Prefab House - https://sylnt.us - a-man's-Boxabl-is-his-castle
[03:54:33] <requerdanos> https://9gag.com
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[06:07:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Revealed: Amazon Destroying Millions of Items of Unsold Stock in UK Every Year - https://sylnt.us
[06:13:48] <chromas> intedasting
[06:13:57] * chromas blames Bytram
[06:14:24] <chromas> "Looking up 72.14.184.41
[06:14:24] <chromas> Connecting to 72.14.184.41 (72.14.184.41:6667)
[06:14:24] <chromas> core.exception.RangeError@source/article_xtractor.d(45): Range violation"
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[06:57:18] <FatPhil> https://www.amazon.com "Perfectly balanced for one-handed reading" eh?
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[07:39:33] <chromas> FatPhil: no good. I need both hands to be free, for...reasons
[07:50:57] <FatPhil> so you need more tentacles?
[08:08:25] <chromas> https://www.myminifactory.com
[08:08:27] <systemd> ^ 033D Printable Valve stem cap w/ a D by S R
[08:47:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brave Search Engine Opens for Beta Testing - https://sylnt.us
[08:53:05] <Runaway1956> 'Murica grows more third-world like
[08:53:11] <Runaway1956> https://sputniknews.com
[08:53:13] <systemd> ^ 03Search and Rescue Op Underway: Multi-Story Apartment Building Collapses Near Miami Beach - Video
[09:03:11] <inz> Did the building have a 40 year warranty
[09:15:39] <Ingar> copycats
[09:15:51] <Ingar> we had an apartment buildling collapsing earlier this week
[09:19:43] <FatPhil> prefabricated concrete slabs?
[09:20:04] <FatPhil> Watched a documentary about such buildings that was made in 1984 only a few days back.
[09:22:11] <FatPhil> =yt hd7i5-baJAs
[09:22:12] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Great British Housing Disaster by Adam Curtis - "Predicts the Grenfell Tower Fire" (49:36; 18,658 views; 👍178 👎5)
[09:23:47] <FatPhil> Warning, it's very boring, unless you live in a concrete slab building, or had a dad who was on the council housing committee in the london borough where you grew up in the 80s, or both.
[09:24:29] <FatPhil> I remember the demolitions that took place, and the protests. It was a big thing in the 80s, because building them had been a big thing in the 60s.
[09:25:06] <FatPhil> janrinok: when did you leave the UK? do you remember that era?
[09:33:32] <inz> Finland is quite full of concrete slab buildings, and more are built each day.
[09:33:56] <inz> Although they don't make them in quite as suicide inducing colors anymore.
[09:36:33] <FatPhil> Yeah, Kivenlahti in Espoo was 99% lego buildings. All from about the same era, for the mass migration towards the capital region around the 70s.
[09:39:20] <inz> That's how we do suburbia.
[09:39:54] <inz> Or ghetto, depending on who you ask.
[09:42:00] <FatPhil> that was Espoon Keskus!
[09:42:43] <FatPhil> having said that, I've not seen anything as ugly as the grey concrete of the tower blocks in Suwon, South Korea
[09:49:44] <inz> surprisingly doing an image search of "suwon" only shows quite pretty stone buildings
[09:52:32] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.newsrust.com
[09:52:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03I’ve Cracked Zodiac Killer Code, a French Engineer Claims" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:55:22] <FatPhil> zodiac was cracked months ago
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[10:07:22] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[10:07:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A US Oil Company Cut Nearly 2,000 Jobs – and Reaped $2.1bn in Pandemic Benefits" (33p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:07:42] <c0lo> Why don't you hate oil?
[10:07:53] <chromas> Wasn't that the point?
[10:08:10] <chromas> federal gibs for companies, but send all the workers to Stay Home, Save Lives
[10:08:22] <c0lo> No, that was the department.
[10:08:32] <chromas> Youo can't work an oil rig from home
[10:09:40] <c0lo> But you can still receive the money the govt gave you to keep me employed.
[10:09:50] <c0lo> Oh, sorry, silly me...
[10:10:05] <c0lo> Didn't think of poor executives.
[10:10:41] <chromas> Depending on the situation, you can actually make more money with unemployment + pandemic gibs. That's why a lot of people aren't going back to work
[10:11:04] <janrinok> FatPhil, I left the UK in 2007 - although being in the military I had travelled extensively between 1970 and 2007. I do remember that building era.
[10:11:29] <c0lo> =submit the-make-moar-babies-day-off https://www.dw.com
[10:11:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Japan Proposes Four-day Working Week to Improve Work-life Balance" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:11:54] <c0lo> ^^^ "It is also anticipated that young people will have more time to meet, marry and have children, "
[10:12:07] <chromas> ie, more time to meat
[10:12:32] <c0lo> What about those tentacles.
[10:13:01] <c0lo> https://www.businessinsider.com
[10:13:02] <systemd> ^ 03$399 CCTV Camera Used in 7-Eleven Checks Staff Paid for Iced Coffee
[10:13:37] <chromas> the url is a better title than the title
[10:15:05] <c0lo> =submit better-than-crispries https://wyss.harvard.edu
[10:15:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Move Over CRISPR, the Retrons are Coming" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:16:49] <c0lo> ^^^ https://doi.org
[10:17:50] <c0lo> ^^^ https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:20:50] <c0lo> =submit combine-1 https://www.scmp.com
[10:20:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lab Grown Chicken Passes the Taste Test in Israel" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:21:03] <c0lo> =submit combine-2 https://www.dailysabah.com
[10:21:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Lab-grown Meat: Looks Like Chicken, Tastes Like Chicken, but is It?" (47p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:21:51] <c0lo> =submit where-are-my-lab-grown-olives https://vegnews.com
[10:21:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Vegan “Dairy-Identical” Cheese Made From Animal-Free Casein Will Launch in 2023" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:22:43] <c0lo> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[10:22:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03UEFA Says LGBT Flag is Not Political Symbol as It Defends Munich Ban" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:26:40] <FatPhil> common sense says that a flag per se can not be lesbian, gay, bi, or trans.
[10:27:49] <c0lo> Except for those with a kink for flags, I rekon.
[10:28:03] <chromas> we cann them flaggots
[10:28:12] <chromas> s/n/l/g
[10:28:12] <SedBot> <chromas> we call them flaggots
[10:28:23] <FatPhil> Can't get enough of a good long stiff pole.
[10:28:36] <FatPhil> !boner FatPhil
[10:28:41] <c0lo> =submit 3d-printing-ai-and-space-where-are-me-billions https://interestingengineering.com
[10:28:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "033D Printed, AI Controlled BioPods Can Grow Food in Space" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:30:47] <c0lo> =submit think-of-the-children https://www.france24.com
[10:30:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Crushing Climate Impacts to Hit Sooner Than Feared: Draft UN Report - France 24" (58p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:32:36] <c0lo> =submit job-of-the-future-solar-panel-washer https://www.theguardian.com
[10:32:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Most New Wind and Solar Projects Will be Cheaper Than Coal, Report Finds" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:34:16] <c0lo> =submit is-an-ai-ready-pentagon-a hexagon? https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org
[10:36:44] <c0lo> =submit https://www.under30experiences.com
[10:36:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Costa Rica Has Run on 100% Renewable Electricity for 299 Days" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:37:10] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org
[10:38:25] <c0lo> Bot scared of DoD, eh? Keep mum about the boss.
[10:40:21] <systemd> shhhh....the glowies are onto me
[10:42:55] <Runaway1956> We don't get enough magic these days - black or white
[10:43:00] <Runaway1956> https://www.winterwatch.net
[10:43:02] <systemd> ^ 03Prime Example of Black Magik Mind Control at Work
[10:46:20] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:46:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5570
[10:46:38] <c0lo> Oh, my, you didn't change, Runaway. Just found other ources to suck from. What happened with that gatewaypundit?
[10:47:29] <chromas> He says, after posting a link from vegnews
[10:47:43] <c0lo> There https://pbs.twimg.com . Find the author as a passtime.
[10:48:15] <chromas> nothing loads for me
[10:48:24] <c0lo> chromas, that was a theme streak. Don't make a big cheese outta it.
[10:48:25] <chromas> it's not even trying to load any third-party bs
[10:48:48] <c0lo> s/streak/steak/
[10:48:48] <SedBot> <c0lo> chromas, that was a theme steak. Don't make a big cheese outta it.
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[10:52:08] <Runaway1956> c0lo - I wasn't aware that I had made any claims that I changed?
[10:55:50] <chromas> he's off having his arvo fosters with the roos
[10:56:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - “Not Like Any Other” Drone - https://sylnt.us - just-droned-on-and-on-and-on
[10:59:05] <Runaway1956> Joe "Stop & Frisk" Biden wants to get his superpredators off the streets!
[10:59:09] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[10:59:10] <systemd> ^ 03Sen. Kennedy: Whoever is advising Biden on crime surge is a ‘Butthead’
[11:02:27] <chromas> there's a kennedy who hasn't been shot?
[11:06:24] <Bytram> Runaway1956: nypost? That's right up there with the "The Daily Mail" aka "The Daily Fail"
[11:07:05] <chromas> yeah, runaway, you should use buzzfeed news
[11:07:28] <chromas> or the ny times, which is basically the same
[11:11:51] <Runaway1956> I kinda like Soul News from Wayne Dupree
[11:11:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.waynedupree.com
[11:11:56] <systemd> ^ 03[VIDEO] Outraged Americans Speak Out After They Say Biden Threatened to “Nuke” Them in Bizarre New Speech
[11:12:07] <Runaway1956> You gotta trust a black man, right?
[11:20:40] <Bytram> Runaway1956: watch it!
[11:21:19] <Runaway1956> Watch what, exactly? We won't see Biden's nukes coming.
[11:26:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No Language Trade-Off: Bilingual Children Reliably Acquire English by Age 5 - https://sylnt.us
[12:21:39] <chromas> Does that make them trilingual?
[12:25:00] <Bytram> "A person who knows 3 languages is tri-lingual; a person who knows 2 languages is bi-lingual; a person who knows one language is... American!"
[12:25:22] <Bytram> ;)
[12:25:46] <chromas> no habla español
[12:26:00] <Bytram> ja wohl!
[12:26:09] <Bytram> das Stimt!
[12:26:16] <Bytram> Oui!
[12:26:32] <Bytram> Da!
[12:27:11] <Bytram> =)
[12:31:31] <inz> s/m/mm/
[12:31:31] <SedBot> <inz> surprisingly doing an immage search of "suwon" only shows quite pretty stone buildings
[12:31:39] <inz> oops, not that one
[12:33:36] <inz> I consider myself to be unilingual, even if I can speak 3 other languages to some extent.
[12:35:07] <inz> or is it monolingual
[12:36:08] <inz> Yes, mono is what I was aiming for.
[12:38:20] * Bytram can speak / understand conversational German, can do still better with reading, and worse with writing. There are enough similarities to Dutch that I can occasionally get the general gist of things when I stumble on a page on the web. On, and I can read some ancient Greek, too. =)
[12:38:53] <Bytram> s/On/Oh/
[12:38:53] <SedBot> <Bytram> can speak / understand conversational German, can do still better with reading, and worse with writing. There are enough similarities to Dutch that I can occasionally get the general gist of things when I stumble on a page on the web. Oh, and I can read some ancient Greek, too. =)
[12:39:12] <Bytram> typing, otoh... ;(
[12:43:59] <inz> Es is nicht einfach.
[12:47:13] <inz> My german is pretty basic though, mostly useless things like "Entschuldigung, wo is der Bahnhof?" and "Ich habe Sauerkraut in meine Lederhosen"
[12:49:02] <chromas> !bier inz
[12:49:02] * Bender geeft een flesje grolsch aan inz
[12:49:54] <inz> O
[12:50:20] <inz> I'm guessing that'd be dutch
[12:50:29] <chromas> close enough
[12:51:21] <inz> flesje sounds like bottle, grolsch I've no idea
[12:53:07] <inz> Having this eBeer, I wish I weren't an eTeatotaller
[12:53:19] <chromas> !koffie inz
[12:53:19] * Bender schenkt een kopje doppio in voor inz
[12:54:25] <inz> Now that sounds delicious
[13:13:03] <Ingar> VOF de Kunst
[13:14:38] <FatPhil> !kotikalja inz
[13:15:03] <FatPhil> bots-- how dare you not know what kotikalja is?!?!?
[13:15:03] <Bender> karma - bots: -57
[13:15:20] <FatPhil> having said that, it's misdummer
[13:15:26] <FatPhil> !sima inz
[13:47:31] <Ingar> inz: grolsch is a Dutch beer btw
[14:05:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earth Trapping Heat at an Alarming New Rate, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - trapped!
[14:31:49] <FatPhil> My Red Arrows photos from yesterday, not cropped, or even thrown out the pointless ones yet: http://fatphil.org
[14:31:50] <systemd> ^ 03Red Arrows and NATO in Tallinn
[14:32:52] <FatPhil> at least half of them are just what happens when you spray-and-pray.
[14:37:07] <janrinok> FatPhil, nothing wrong with them, fast moving aircraft are not the easiest of subjects. A tip for the future is to overexpose them when you take them as the sky tends to make the camera misread the ambient/background light.
[14:40:40] <FatPhil> Yeah, I did no chimping, so didn't see how dark they were.
[14:41:10] <FatPhil> I'll see if I can remember that in 8 years time when I next see an air display.
[14:41:42] <FatPhil> then again, and over-exposed sky could lead to bloom/glare, and that might be worse than darkness.
[14:42:12] <FatPhil> You can't pull back detail from bloom/glare, but you can at least partially fix underexposure in post.
[14:42:30] <FatPhil> not that I ever do post. fuck post. too lazy!
[14:42:39] <inz> they sure do fart a lot
[14:43:14] <FatPhil> I heard two seagulls talking to each other - "they sure are noisy!" "so would you be if your tail was on fire"
[14:45:07] <FatPhil> janrinok: I hope you saluted as they did the tricoleur blue-white-red?
[14:45:29] <FatPhil> Brits love France, clearly.
[14:47:31] <Runaway1956> That video won't play for me fatphil
[14:50:44] <janrinok> over-exposure by about 2/3 to 1 of a stop will lighten the ac but not cause excessive glare. The easiest way to get good pictures is to set the exposure by pointing at the ground and then using that to take your piccies. You will have more detail in your subjects.
[14:52:13] <janrinok> I stood on my head and saluted the red-white-and blue as I always have. I lay wreaths here on several occasions throughout the year and my wreath is always an RAF roundel. The locals appreciate it too.
[14:54:07] <janrinok> The only downside I can see from your afternoon out is the musicians who were strangling cats....!
[14:54:30] <janrinok> But I suspect their music went down well with the locals too.
[15:07:18] <janrinok> FatPhil, some of your photos are very good. Sharp, well-exposed and with good detail. That is not easy with a fast moving aircraft.
[15:40:48] <FatPhil> Thank you. The "IS" switch on the lens did most of the work. I just set T=1/1250s, and let the electronics do the rest. Lens was the cheapo 55-250 zoom. D600, so EFS crop.
[15:51:26] <FatPhil> Temperature gradient was very interesting - they disappeared from earshot completely, so you didn't have advance warning where they might appear from next. Inverse square laws do not apply when refraction takes over.
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[17:12:46] <FatPhil> Is anyone here on Janssen 5G? Wanna know what you were recommended regarding booze avoidance post-jab. Asking for a friend of a friend.
[18:01:03] <AzumaHazuki> i've heard it's best not to drink for a good 48 hours before or after but with no specific science backing that up
[18:04:22] <AzumaHazuki> alcohol does lower the immune system a bit, i know that much...so in light of the new delta variant i'd say give yourself as much fighting chance as you can and abstain
[18:57:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Move Over CRISPR, the Retrons are Coming - https://sylnt.us - better-than-crispries
[20:32:03] <FatPhil> we do have some delta here already, and we have spanish, british, US, and unintelligible tourists in town this week, it seems.
[20:35:39] <FatPhil> looks like 'er indoors has organised a little beer tasting session with one of the brewpub's brewers only 4 days after our jabs.
[20:36:40] <FatPhil> fortunately he and his g/f are sophisticated drinkers rather than the boozers I normally hang around with, so there's some chance it will be a civilised evening, not a shambles.
[20:37:44] <chromas> Sophisticated drinker means pinky out and a curly straw, right?
[20:38:28] <FatPhil> abso-twiddling-lutely!
[20:40:21] <FatPhil> Just watched https://www.imdb.com , which was quite fun. In particular if you already know about the lunacy the military flung money at in the 70s (Swann, Puthoff & Targ, etc.)
[20:40:24] <systemd> ^ 03The Men Who Stare at Goats (2009) - IMDb
[20:49:17] <chromas> Great idea! If you can't drink, just substitute in some hollywood movies
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[21:38:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most New Wind and Solar Projects Will be Cheaper Than Coal, Report Finds - https://sylnt.us - job-of-the-future-solar-panel-washer
[21:46:07] <FatPhil> "Strong Britain, Great Nation" = Irritating banter, not a song. https://www.youtube.com
[21:49:36] <FatPhil> (anagram, obviously)
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[22:01:16] <FatPhil> "Strong Britain, Great Nation" = restart anti-bongo training
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[22:58:55] <TheMightyChickadee> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[22:58:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Earth-like Worlds in the Milky Way May be a Lot Less Common Than We Thought" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[23:09:56] <requerdanos> I only know of one Earth-like world, so they would have to work pretty hard to be even Less Common Than We Thought
[23:15:46] <FatPhil> In order to keep themselves relevant (i.e. continue to get funding), ever couple of years they need to release a story headlined "Chances of life on other planets way (high|low)er than previously thought"
[23:16:11] <FatPhil> The two "competing" teams even bribe each other to keep them sweet and producing counter articles.
[23:20:39] <AzumaHazuki> gee, it's almost like the profit motive poisons everything it touches if not kept in check
[23:27:51] <requerdanos> I do know that every so often some idiot writes a headline about an "Earth-like" planet that in the body of the article turns out to be almost but not entirely unlike Earth.
[23:54:51] <FatPhil> are these guys kooks or legit? https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:54:52] <systemd> ^ 03Federation of American Scientists - Wikipedia
[23:56:22] <FatPhil> It's not actually the "profit" part to the people on ground level, that's more systemic. They're chasing metrics, and the system imposes those metrics upon them. And as soon as you have a metric, you have a mechanism for gaming.