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[00:26:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astronauts Grew Green Chile on the Space Station and Made Themselves Space Tacos - https://sylnt.us - spicy-space-foods
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[03:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Launches Google Wave (Actually: Loop) - https://sylnt.us - ?-?-?-?-?
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[06:07:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Babies Wanted: Chinese Province May Offer a Year of Maternity Leave - https://sylnt.us
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[08:58:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Los Angeles County Sheriff Doubles Down on Not Enforcing Vaccine Mandate as He Warns of Mass Exodus - https://sylnt.us - I'd-rather-get-sick-than-serve
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[09:37:02] <FatPhil> As proof of how very stable a geniouse I am, I've got a log file that I keep adding to the start of... O(n^2) rocks!
[10:50:37] <inz> I'm sure any new-school js "programmer" could come up with a O(n^3) or O(2^x) solution instead
[10:51:35] <inz> Or actually, no, they'd npm in someone else's implementation
[11:09:08] <FatPhil> basically it's the raw data for a most-recent-first webpage that tracks some activity, and I just decided that I may as well have the logs in same order as the page generated from them. It runs on a raspi, and I don't notice the writes, so N isn't too high (and due to rotation won't get more than 50% bigger than it currently is).
[11:09:15] <FatPhil> No premature optimisation here.
[11:10:55] <FatPhil> Of course, generation of the HTML is O(N) with a bigger constant than writing the new updated log file out, so you can't ever improve the big-Oh.
[11:38:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - University of Adelaide Built a Robot Spider to Scan Australia’s Naracoorte Caves - https://sylnt.us - creepy-crawly
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[12:17:14] <chromas> A real stable jenius would be able to hit O(O^O)
[12:26:27] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[12:26:29] <systemd> ^ 03[1375] “Not a Lock” vs. 10/10 Rated Master Lock
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[14:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Machine Learning Identifies New Brain Network Signature of Major Depression - https://sylnt.us
[14:53:58] <FatPhil> TIL: Some aparantly advanced western societies have brought the most recent few generations up to not recognise mixed fractions, and therefore to not recognise '3 1/2 inch' and '5 1/4 inch' floppies as representing a numerically specified measurement of length.
[14:59:00] <Bytram> FatPhil: :sadface:
[15:00:27] <janrinok> the more we learn the more stupid we become
[15:19:19] <Teckla> Hmmm, my kid (now a teenager) learned fractions back in grade school.
[15:19:24] <Teckla> Including mixed fractions.
[15:19:40] <Teckla> Which "advanced western societies" are not teaching them?
[15:28:54] * FatPhil glares at the birthplace of Archimedes
[15:29:00] <FatPhil> Yup, Italy
[15:29:43] * Runaway1956 stopped doing fractions around 4th grade
[15:29:54] <Runaway1956> easier to convert to decimals,
[15:30:05] <FatPhil> if you do anything with inches, surely you use fractions?
[15:30:23] <Runaway1956> engineer's scale has no fractions in it
[15:30:40] <FatPhil> I know that doesn't apply to 99% of the planet, but Liberia and one other country still use them
[15:31:04] <FatPhil> How are your socket/wrench sets labelled?
[15:31:22] <Runaway1956> All the years I worked construction, inches, feet, and fractions were an obvious stumbling block for my fellow builders
[15:31:58] <Runaway1956> because I used engineer scale, and because I could convert fractions to decimals, I had a huge advantage
[15:32:12] <Runaway1956> sockets are fractional and metric
[15:32:53] <Runaway1956> A mechanic who doesnt' have a full set of each is a piss poor excuse for a mechanic
[15:33:17] <FatPhil> Oh - to clarify - the italians didn't have a problem with fractions /per se/ just in the ``whole numerator/denominator'' notation, as per examples above.
[15:33:44] <FatPhil> A shim will turn a metric socket into an imperial one, eh?
[15:34:07] <Runaway1956> A shim will turn a perfectly good bolt and nut into scrap
[15:34:21] <FatPhil> but it only needs to be tightened once, right?
[15:34:23] <Runaway1956> I use the right tool for the job whenever possible
[15:34:32] <FatPhil> anything after that is someone else's problem
[15:34:58] <Runaway1956> Working maintenance, anything after the nut is stripped will come back to me again.
[15:35:05] <FatPhil> I have learnt the ways of eastern european engineering - thanks, Stalin!
[15:36:36] * Runaway1956 looks up the screen and sees that janrinok is becoming stupid(er)
[15:37:46] * FatPhil googles for US wrenches and sees the notation ``1-1/4'' in use
[15:38:03] <FatPhil> which is funny, as it has value 1+1/4
[15:38:44] <Runaway1956> the notation actually engraved on said wrenches is usually 1 1/4 without any dashes
[15:38:56] <FatPhil> "Includes 14-pc. 1/2 in. drive crowfoot wrenches: 1-1/16, 1-1/8, 1-3/16, 1-1/4, 1-5/16, 1-3/8, 1-7/16, 1-1/2, 1-5/8, 1-11/16, 1-3/4, 1-13/16, 1-7/8, 2 in.; Storage tray "
[15:39:39] <Runaway1956> Marketing doesn't even know what a wrench is for, but they'll print anything.
[15:40:03] <janrinok> Runaway1956, what I meant was as we as a species learn more each day we become less intelligent on the ways we pass that knowledge on to future generations.
[15:41:02] <Runaway1956> No need to explain janrinok. Your friends don't need it, and your enemies will use the explanation to make you look worser than stupider.
[15:41:36] <FatPhil> I know that wrenches are useful for hitting marketting people over the head.
[15:42:09] <Runaway1956> That requires wrenches larger than 1 1/2 or larger than 32 mm
[15:42:32] * Runaway1956 prefers a 2 1/2 in hammer wrench
[15:43:10] <FatPhil> Depends how long you've got for the backswing.
[15:43:25] <FatPhil> sometimes smaller and more quickly accelerated is better
[15:44:06] <Runaway1956> https://i.ebayimg.com
[15:44:22] <Runaway1956> That's not quite the style in my toolboxes, but it comes close
[15:45:29] <Runaway1956> And, mine are all six point - not much good comes of hammering a 12 point wrench on a six point bolt or nut
[17:05:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bilingualism Comes Naturally to Our Brains - https://sylnt.us - say-that-again
[17:36:31] <chromas> Technology becomes stupider the better it gets too
[19:28:08] <FatPhil> As the world becomes more idiot-proof, we keep breeding better idiots.
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[20:56:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel's Alder Lake big.LITTLE CPU Design, Tested: It's a Barn Burner - https://sylnt.us - hot-and-toasty
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[21:55:47] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[21:55:49] <systemd> ^ 03JUST IN: Rand Paul Tells Fauci He Changed Website To 'Cover Your Ass' On Gain-Of-Function Research
[21:56:10] <Runaway1956> Rand Paul accusing Fauci of funding gain of function research on the COVIDS
[21:58:26] <Runaway1956> Fauci's response begins with parsing "gain of function"
[21:59:57] <Runaway1956> In short, "No we don't do gain of function, because we changed the definition of gain of function'
[22:00:57] <chromas> just like "racism"
[22:03:11] <FatPhil> it's only gain of function when a white man does it?
[22:08:38] <chromas> when you change the definition
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[23:32:40] <chromas> https://www.inc.com
[23:32:41] <systemd> ^ 03Open-Plan Offices Kill Productivity, According to Science
[23:32:55] <chromas> When I load it in browser, I get the title for a second, then it switches to a 404
[23:33:31] <chromas> I guess the trick is to either load third-party js or no js
[23:48:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Approves Merck’s Antiviral Covid-19 Pill -- molnupiravir -- In World First Move - https://sylnt.us - pill-ar-of-hope?
[23:50:06] <Bytram> chromas: loaded ok for me, but I have NoScript enabled (15 (!) blocked domains) as well as uBlock Origin (on Ubuntu Mate; Release 20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa) 64-bit)
[23:52:37] <Bytram> seemed to load okay with ( https://zeroindex.org ), too. ;)
[23:52:37] <systemd> ^ 03Soysub
[23:55:46] <Bytram> =submit https://www.inc.com
[23:55:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Open-Plan Offices Kill Productivity, According to Science" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:56:26] <Bytram> It's actually an interesting story; subbed!