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[00:48:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Raspberry Pi Pico Microcontroller Gets Wireless Version - https://sylnt.us - my-jacuzzi-needs-one-of-these
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[03:09:00] <c0lo> =submit https://boingboing.net
[03:09:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Beer Made From Recycled Toilet Water Pleases Singapore Suds Sippers" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:09:58] <c0lo> Or pick other sources https://www.google.com
[03:09:59] <systemd> ^ 03beer from toilet water singapore - Google Search
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[03:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rocket Lab Sees Payoff From CAPSTONE Launch - https://sylnt.us - to-infinity-and-beyond
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[04:56:07] <chromas> Toilet water sounds like a good place to get your alcohol. It's full of microbes already, the alcohol will kill the germs, plus it's fortified with vitamins pee and poo
[04:57:28] <janrinok> mornin' chromas !
[04:57:38] <chromas> =g'day janrinok
[04:57:47] <chromas> =smake systemd
[04:57:54] <chromas> >:(
[04:58:02] <chromas> =ping
[04:58:04] <chromas> fpos
[04:58:08] <janrinok> lol
[04:58:31] <chromas> "SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK"
[04:58:41] <chromas> so it died on a url
[04:59:16] <chromas> aha. the g'day function hits up a phpoo script and it didn't like that
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[04:59:46] <janrinok> =ping
[04:59:46] <systemd> Pong!
[04:59:52] <janrinok> yep - sorted!
[05:00:16] <chromas> I've been moving stuff over to another box
[05:00:40] <chromas> one that still has the issue that systemd pegs the cpu every 30 or seconds, but is passively cooled so I don't have to hear the fan whining
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[05:03:39] <janrinok> still no idea what the problem is with that specific installation that you do not see elsewhere?
[05:04:06] <chromas> I need to make a cronjob...or systemd timer, to kill systemd, restart dbus and kill whatever "systemd --user" is, which isn't the actual command, but what it sets the command string to be, and hosts pamd
[05:04:23] <chromas> dunno. both boxes do it though since updates a few weeks ago
[05:05:41] <chromas> I haven't found anything interesting in the systemd-journald
[05:06:10] <chromas> Maybe I need to learn how to attach a debugger or something
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[05:08:51] <chromas> I tell you hwhuwat though, prosody (xmpp server) really clogs up the journal with every little useless detail. Probably because it collects stdout
[05:09:24] <janrinok> I will do my best to avoid it....
[05:09:50] <chromas> So ask soylent: What's the current best replacement for jabber/xmpp for instant messaging since it totally sucks ass?
[05:10:32] <chromas> I know there's matrix, but the only single server in existence is javascript
[05:17:36] <chromas> Maybe it's because my username starts with a number. The systemd devs hate that for some reason
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[05:25:25] <chromas> on another whiny topic, my laptop unsuspends itself a few seconds after folding it, but there's no info about why. it seems to occur when there's an ssh connection going, but it's not documented in the journalctl
[05:25:38] <chromas> it's like I'm running Windows
[05:26:42] <janrinok> lol - set fire to it. The devil is inside it!
[05:27:52] <chromas> on the one hands, it's my fault for running arch on a server...on the other, arch does minimal changes from upstream, so
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[06:16:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Chip for Robots Conveys 'Sense of Touch' to Human Operators - https://sylnt.us - this-movie-ends-badly
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[06:48:10] <FatPhil> ah, happy memories of https://github.com
[06:48:11] <systemd> ^ 03systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day
[06:53:54] <janrinok> looks like you might have identified the problem
[06:55:41] <chromas> Nah, it's not root access that's the problem, but cpu molestation
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[06:56:57] <chromas> If I recall, they think usernames starting with a number is bad because you might want to randomly pass a uid in where a username would go and it should buttmagically know that's what you meant, and a username with a number would confuse the magic
[06:58:43] <janrinok> the username that begins with a digit would be the first place I would start looking - it _might_ help. Is it a big change?
[07:01:02] <chromas> Good point. Even though it's valid, and the systemd devs wrongly think otherwise, that could be it. Gotta watch my desktop and see what it does
[07:03:31] <chromas> The comments on that are funny though
[07:04:53] <chromas> "Hey, so a username starting with a number causes systemd to run processes as root"
[07:04:53] <chromas> "don't use usernames with numbers"
[07:04:53] <chromas> "but root access shouldn't be given"
[07:04:53] <chromas> "we totally check all our inputs"
[07:04:53] <chromas> "no we can get root"
[07:04:55] <chromas> "nuh uh"
[07:06:10] <chromas> one person mentions poettering, then "oh no the trolls! I'm locking the conversation!"
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[07:37:05] <FatPhil> that's why I dug it up, the discombobulation from the high priests of the cult of systemd was palpable.
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[08:01:28] <FatPhil> new table: http://fatphil.org
[08:01:29] <systemd> ^ 03Smoking vs. Covid Deaths Per Capita
[08:16:25] <FatPhil> I've gone above and beyond in the colour-scheme ugliness
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[08:39:55] <chromas> big brain tiem: Ian Murdock was suicided in order to get systemd installed
[08:40:02] <chromas> into debian
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[08:56:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Patchable and Preventable Security Issues Lead Causes of Q1 Attacks - https://sylnt.us - patchable-and-preventable
[09:33:27] <FatPhil> hans rieser offed him
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[11:46:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Scientists Say Images From the Webb Telescope Nearly Brought Them to Tears - https://sylnt.us - hopefully-tears-of-joy
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[14:09:15] <janrinok> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[14:09:18] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ukraine Targeted by Almost 800 Cyberattacks Since the War Started" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:35:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Brief History of Zork or 'Eaten by a Grue' [*AC Friendly*] - https://sylnt.us - graphics-are-overrated
[14:37:35] <chromas> AC-friendly? So I trust the situation was rectified and we'll be able to comment directly?
[14:49:10] <chromas> This was my other favorite systemd thread https://lists.debian.org
[14:49:11] <systemd> ^ 03Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
[15:21:40] <janrinok> chromas - it is part of a trial to see the response of the community and how practical it is to have mixed stories on the front page.
[15:22:29] <chromas> yeah but muh ac⚡dc reference
[15:22:38] <janrinok> The situation is not rectified - I have got no idea what the spammers may try next, or whether the AC Friendly stories will just get trashed.
[15:22:52] <janrinok> Sorry, didn't recognise the reference
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[15:35:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - *** ANTI SPAM MEASURES IN PLACE - LOGGED IN USERS ONLY - SEE NEW INFORMATION *** - https://sylnt.us
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[18:24:46] <janrinok> apk and spam back - I have removed the AC Friendly access for the time being. I'll give it another couple of days and see if the situation improves.
[18:28:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Brief History of Zork or 'Eaten by a Grue' - https://sylnt.us - graphics-are-overrated
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[23:00:22] <mrpg> !submit
[23:00:28] <mrpg> =submit
[23:00:28] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[23:00:34] <mrpg> submit https://scitechdaily.com
[23:00:35] <systemd> ^ 03Turning Harmless Cells Into Ruthless Tumor and Virus Killers
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