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[01:04:37] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[01:04:38] <systemd> ^ 03Who Fucked The Peanut Butter (2018)
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[02:08:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'We Don’t Have Enough' Lithium Globally to Meet EV Targets, Mining CEO Says - https://sylnt.us - there's-lithium-in-them-thar-hills!
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[03:40:23] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[03:40:25] <systemd> ^ 03Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb
[04:57:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Did This Gene Give Modern Human Brains Their Edge? - https://sylnt.us - Dr-Alley-Oop
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[07:37:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Sees a New Attempt at Threaded Console Printing - https://sylnt.us - they-wouldn't-printk-it-if-it-wasn't-true
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[09:48:04] <Spanglosarchus> Tesseracting
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[10:17:09] -!- mode/#soylent [+b *!~9c923b*@*] by FatPhil
[10:25:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Social Media Firms to Testify at U.S. Senate Homeland Security Hearing - https://sylnt.us - apologize-and-deny
[11:46:06] <FatPhil> Ha, this'll be fun... guess who's going to Armenia next week... https://tass.com
[11:46:09] <systemd> ^ 03Armenian Prime Minister calls Putin due to escalation on border with Azerbaijan
[11:47:17] <FatPhil> We will also be staying within sight of the Azerbaijani border. I'll take my big lens, and see if I can capture any of the fun.
[11:48:00] <janrinok> Don't get caught taking photos of a war - it tends not to end well
[11:53:29] <inz> FP, remember to bring your AK47 too, just in case
[11:53:57] <FatPhil> I hope to bring back half a dozen, and maybe a russian tank!
[11:54:30] <janrinok> should be fun getting that through customs!
[11:54:48] <FatPhil> I'll install an ice-cream dispenser
[11:55:03] <FatPhil> =g mark thomas ice cream tank
[11:55:04] <systemd> https://twitter.com - Mark Thomas on Twitter: "Hah! Had almost forgotten about the para ...
[11:55:08] <janrinok> Claiming its a 'souvenir' or a 'gift' for your Mum probably won't convince them.
[11:55:31] <inz> Don't even need a jingle for that, the clankity-clank can be heard for miles around
[11:56:50] <janrinok> I think that is a Fox armoured vehicle - not many of them around nowadays
[11:57:57] <inz> Better bolt it down, or the ukranian tracto brogade will liberate it
[11:58:05] <inz> -typos
[11:58:43] <FatPhil> you meant 'brocade' - it's very important to look smart
[13:03:01] <FatPhil> E.g. this guy. Very smart. https://twitter.com
[13:06:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Use CRISPR to Condense a Million Years of Evolution Into Mere Months - https://sylnt.us - foster-child-of-Silence-and-slow-Time
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[15:01:27] <c0lo> TIL https://www.youtube.com
[15:01:30] <systemd> ^ 03What Lies Between a Function and Its Derivative? (SoME2)
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[15:46:17] <FatPhil> Stop quitting so soon - you'll never learn what assumptions are being made that make the claimed paradox sound weirder than it really is!
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[15:55:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Plans Three Moon Missions After Discovering New Lunar Mineral - https://sylnt.us - we-must-not-allow-a-Changesite-(Y)-gap!
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[16:26:01] <c0lo> =submit people-dying-older-than-us https://www.theguardian.com
[16:26:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Jean-Luc Godard Chose to End Life Through Assisted Dying, Lawyer Confirms" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[16:29:36] <c0lo> FatPhil - I know those assumptions already. The variance is known (even if the median value is not) and it's 1 for all the n>=3 distributions. You have other ideas?
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[16:43:51] <FatPhil> it's also presumed that all errors are equally significant no matter what the magnitude of the variable. So 1.001 is as bad a guess as to something really 0.001 as 1001 is to something that is 1000.
[16:45:17] <FatPhil> it's also assumed that wrongness can just be averaged out (L2 metric), whereas there might be situations where the worst error is the thing that is most significant (Linfinity metric).
[16:47:09] <FatPhil> Also, the mere fact that you can add square errors implies that the varaibles aren't "unrelated" - they must have the same dimension, if they're something physical. "Independent", sure, "uncorrelated", yup, but "unrelated" is a word with way too much baggage.
[16:49:30] <c0lo> Yeah, my bad with the terminology. What I had in mind was "standard deviation is 1 for all distributions" (instead of variance) - still jetlagged.
[16:49:47] <FatPhil> I think you'll find that you get the same result no matter which direction you shrink the values. They're doing O+s*(V-O) to shrink towards the origin O. But the whole thing has symmetry, and so there are other points you could shrink towards.
[16:50:09] <FatPhil> The choice of O is effectively arbitrary.
[16:51:11] <FatPhil> I.e. as you're doing is sacrificing a small volume to ruin such that you can improve everywhere else, but the choice of volume to sacrifice is arbitrary.
[16:51:45] <FatPhil> Which makes the paradox even more paradoxical!
[16:52:12] <FatPhil> as if you sample V, you could shrink to 2*V, away from the origin!
[16:52:44] <FatPhil> It's a fun one - it made me think - thanks!
[16:52:48] <FatPhil> c0lo++
[16:52:48] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 49
[16:57:53] <c0lo> Why chose a certain sample and not a position derived from all samples presented?
[16:58:25] <c0lo> s/sample/sample to 2*v/
[16:58:25] <SedBot> <c0lo> Why chose a certain sample to 2*v and not a position derived from all samples presented?
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[18:14:06] <FatPhil> symmetry probably means that there are an infinitude of places you could shrink to
[18:14:26] <FatPhil> I only chose 2*V because it's the exact opposite direction
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[18:26:20] <FatPhil> Mormons, QAnon, you americans come up with the bestest cults: https://www.thedailybeast.com
[18:26:21] <systemd> ^ 03Man Murdered Wife, Shot Daughter After Being Sucked Down ‘Q Rabbit Hole,’ Family Confirms
[18:35:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Be Careful of Blue Light – Damage Increases With Age - https://sylnt.us
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[21:18:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Federal Judge Blocks Arizona Law Limiting Filming of Police - https://sylnt.us
[23:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Has Had 'Promising Conversations' With Apple About iPhone Satellite Service - https://sylnt.us