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[08:25:54] <aristarchus> Can someone on staff just delete or ban the anti-vax Runaway journal? Yes, I know he is "just saying", but that killed a million Americans, and many more not Americans. Time for some responsible censorship on SoylentNews. Oh, and hai, Soylent12!
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[09:12:16] <Ingar> I regret clearing my ignore list
[09:12:45] <Ingar> Ignore List ofc, capitalized according to Germanic tradition
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[10:39:56] <Runaway> I asked the NSA if they could just delete ari. The unofficial response was, they think he's funny, and don't want to delete a source of amusement.
[10:40:14] <Runaway> There was no official response, of course.
[10:41:44] <requerdanos> careful, when the NSA deletes you, you stay deleted. https://www.yahoo.com
[10:41:46] <systemd-oomd> ^ 03NSA shooting: 1 dead after 2 men dressed as women tried to crash gate outside Fort Meade
[10:45:07] <Runaway> Well, when the NSA deletes something, they automatically write over that disk space with random ones and zeros. You can't undelete after the data has been written over.
[11:10:53] <janrinok> Yes, you are correct. In fact they write over it numerous times using different bit patterns each time. DBAN does a similar thing but it is no longer compliant with the 5-eyes standard.
[11:14:46] <janrinok> It is still plenty secure enough for everyday use - except on SSDs which sometimes leave blocks inaccessible to the user.
[11:17:13] <janrinok> The disks that I had to destroy during my working life were put through a mechanical shredder and came out the other end as tiny fragments no bigger than a few mm (0.15") in size, after being erased.
[11:18:09] <janrinok> This was to prevent the person operating the mechanical shredder from fixing the books and keeping some drives. There was always the operator and a witness.
[11:41:06] <ted-ious> The nsa never deletes anything.
[11:41:20] <ted-ious> It all gets backed up to offline storage in utah.
[11:42:07] <requerdanos> I don't see why they wouldn't delete from drives going offline/obsolete, even if they retain copies of the underlying data.
[12:23:53] <janrinok> They do delete drives - that doesn't mean that there aren't copies of the data elsewhere. I had to scrap not only drives but complete laptops. Nothing is kept. Everything is completely shredded.
[12:24:30] <requerdanos> Shredded hardware is hard to recycle except as debris.
[12:25:31] <janrinok> I don't think that being 'green' was high on the priority list....
[12:26:18] <janrinok> The security of TS/codeword material is the only thing that matters.
[12:26:38] <requerdanos> A shame that simply erasing--to whatever standard--isn't good enough.
[12:27:27] <janrinok> TBH - the laptops had been well used and I doubt that they would have served as useful machines anymore.
[17:33:16] <chromas> Use the bits as mulch to plant your newest random seeds
[17:38:47] <chromas> one pass of overwriting is good enough for most of us. unless you have alphabetis after you, nobody else has the time and budget for electron microscopes or whatever other nonsense that can allegedly still read a disk after fewer than five overwrites, and since they have our hardware backdoored, they probably have at least one copy per overwrite anyhow
[17:56:36] <janrinok> agreed
[17:56:56] <janrinok> bits of metal and plastic don't make a good gardening mulch though...
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[20:18:37] <Soylentil721223> Y'alls know about the 502 (BAD_GATEWAY)?
[20:20:00] <janrinok> I do now - thanks
[20:20:46] <janrinok> .op
[20:20:46] -!- mode/#soylent [+o janrinok] by Imogen
[20:21:54] janrinok changed topic of #soylent to: The site is giving a 502 ERROR.
[20:22:03] <janrinok> .deop
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[20:37:31] <janrinok> I don't suppose there will be much anyone can do on a Saturday... However, I will see who I can contact.
[20:37:50] <janrinok> Why do these things always happen at a weekend?
[20:45:15] <chromas> rehash is a widdle baby who waits until nobody's looking and then gets into the flour and poops everywhere
[20:45:58] <janrinok> that was probably a visual cue that I could have done without :D
[20:47:55] <chromas> okay fine, rehash is the flour spreading baby, ari is the pooping dog
[20:48:41] <chromas> diarrheic doggo—the newest ubuntu release. sit, ubuntu. sit. good dog (paramount logo)
[20:49:11] <chromas> =yt sit ubu
[20:49:11] <systemd-oomd> Search failed: Key not found: likeCount (std/json.d: 688)
[20:49:17] <chromas> frack
[20:49:17] <janrinok> Have you perhaps had a beer or something? If not - why not!
[20:49:31] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[20:49:32] <systemd-oomd> ^ 03Sit, Ubu, Sit (Original Bumper Music)
[20:50:13] <chromas> Some beer smells pretty good. Tastes nasty though
[20:50:23] <janrinok> well, that was short and sweet
[20:50:36] <janrinok> .. the video, not your comment
[20:50:48] <chromas> it was at the end of several tv shows, especially ones with Michael J Fox for some reason
[20:51:22] <janrinok> ah, not over here
[20:58:08] * chromas puts a bier in Loggie
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[21:03:42] <janrinok> No replies to my emails so far
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[21:16:41] <chromas> I should go reply and say "not it!"
[21:18:55] <janrinok> I'll accept that as your answer...
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[23:27:21] <chromas> Well I ain't got no access no mo'
[23:33:50] <chromas> https://www.smithsonianmag.com
[23:33:50] <systemd-oomd> ^ 03Why Are Tuna Crabs Swarming Off the Coast of San Diego?
[23:34:01] <chromas> Hm, so tuna crabs are lobsters