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[08:08:47] <aristarchus> I want to report repeated kickings of last night. Bad form, janrinok!
[08:10:25] <janrinok> .kick aristarchus
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[08:10:27] <janrinok> .op
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[08:12:50] <janrinok> .kick aristarchuse
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[08:13:51] <janrinok> go home, ari, your village wants their idiot back ....
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[08:19:42] <soylentil94> I would like to report a problem.
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[08:24:45] <schestowitz[TR]> "romoting false balance [rationalwiki.org] and thus exacerbating anti-FOSS and anti-Linux fear, uncertainty, and doubt on behalf of m$ and its hordes of
[08:24:45] <schestowitz[TR]> frauds, poseurs, and charlatans. For that reason I suggested dropping it from the queue but since it's here, discuss anyway. "
[08:24:45] <schestowitz[TR]> severe editorial error: http://techrights.org
[08:25:43] <schestowitz[TR]> the point of editorial control is to weed out misleading spin from Redmond, Oil Companies etc.
[08:27:04] <janrinok> What are you quoting from? If we quote what somebody has said it is for a reason. The comments are the place to discuss it and, if it deserves it, destroy their argument.
[08:27:16] <schestowitz[TR]> right
[08:28:51] <schestowitz[TR]> it's one of those, oh, trump is mentally unfit, so let's talk about biden instead
[08:28:59] <schestowitz[TR]> the world's systems crashed because of windows
[08:29:37] <schestowitz[TR]> they want to change the subject and FUD a solution which does not require those snakeoil "security" addons
[08:29:37] <chromas> clownstrike, not windows
[08:29:43] <schestowitz[TR]> it's a form of gish-gallop
[08:29:52] <schestowitz[TR]> clownstrike is for Windows people
[08:29:59] <schestowitz[TR]> almost nobody else bothers
[08:30:23] <chromas> if your insurance company won't cover you unless you install some trash security software, the operating system is irrelevant
[08:30:24] <schestowitz[TR]> clownstrike is an exrension of Microsoft, check where the managers came from
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[09:34:16] <janrinok> ./kick WhatRoySaid
[09:34:22] <janrinok> ./ban WhatRoySaid
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[09:34:47] <janrinok> .kick WhatRoySaid
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[09:45:09] <chromas> hm so crowdstrike did affect linux....a few months back
[09:46:43] <chromas> https://www.neowin.net
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[09:47:02] <chromas> systemd: tell me the title that's in the url
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[09:53:42] <schestowitz[TR]> neowindows is not some random site and this author is channelling Microsoft's face-saving PR
[09:53:47] <schestowitz[TR]> I stopped that hours after he did this
[09:54:00] <schestowitz[TR]> then other Microsofters linked and used the same wording
[09:54:06] <schestowitz[TR]> it could just as well come from microsoft.com
[09:54:15] <schestowitz[TR]> clownstrike is Linux software like photoshop is
[09:54:34] <chromas> "I don't like the site so the news is wrong"
[09:54:35] <schestowitz[TR]> and userspace stuff should not crash/brick the OS
[09:54:43] <chromas> it's not userspace stuff
[09:54:48] <schestowitz[TR]> chromas: seee the biden analogy
[09:55:02] <schestowitz[TR]> it's an attention diversion fallacy
[09:55:19] <schestowitz[TR]> they did the ssame months ago
[09:55:25] <schestowitz[TR]> after microsoft had azure cracked
[09:55:27] <schestowitz[TR]> by china]
[09:55:27] <chromas> the attention should be on cloudstrike
[09:55:31] <schestowitz[TR]> and then by russia
[09:55:33] <schestowitz[TR]> bonus:
[09:55:41] <schestowitz[TR]> this past week azure broke down
[09:55:50] <schestowitz[TR]> also, many windows ransomware incidents, some big
[09:55:58] <chromas> there's no operating system worth using that would be able to resist bad code purposely running kernelspace
[09:56:05] <schestowitz[TR]> they want people to focus on "clownstrike" instead
[09:56:20] <schestowitz[TR]> and falsely assume those other issues are also "third party"
[09:56:24] <chromas> because everyone around the world saw the effects of it
[09:56:27] <schestowitz[TR]> http://techrights.org
[09:56:28] <systemd> ^ 03A Smokescreen for Brad Smith
[09:56:59] <schestowitz[TR]> it's proprietary
[09:57:02] <schestowitz[TR]> good or bad, it is secret
[09:57:11] <schestowitz[TR]> and gnu/linux servers don't add security as "addon"
[09:57:14] <schestowitz[TR]> they use other means
[09:57:20] <chromas> apparently they do
[09:57:30] <schestowitz[TR]> unlike windows, the back doors are not build in
[09:57:59] <chromas> no just like with windows, cloudstrike is an addon that corporate makes their tech guys install
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[13:10:51] <Runaway1956> I sense some lingering bitterness in the channel this morning.
[13:12:40] <janrinok> some people can't understand the difference between banned and censored.
[13:14:33] <janrinok> most of the 'action' is taking place in his deleted comments he he he...
[13:59:54] <Runaway1956> Shouldn't that be "zhe zhe zhe"? You don't want to dead name anyone.
[14:00:46] <janrinok> :)
[14:01:18] <Runaway1956> Ooooh, headline scrolling down my news feed:
[14:01:37] <Runaway1956> Kamala Harris was NOT the second shooter in Butler!
[15:03:08] <requerdanos> if that's a real headline in your news feed, you need to seriously reconsider your news sources.
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